From the Society for Experimental Biology via Eurekalert, now making the rounds on websites like ScienceDaily, worrisome news that climate change will possibly, maybe, could, put the endangered Mary river turtle in Australia at further risk. Even the author of the study admits “Whether climate change has already contributed to the decline is not clear,” says Ms. Micheli-Campbell. But let’s not let that get in the way of spinning a good story.
Oddly, there’s no mention of climate change as a threatening factor on the Queensland government websites that list the endangered turtle, but many, many, other things are. See more on that at the end of the story along with a temperature analysis. I didn’t expect to spend most of my Sunday on this, but the more I dug into it, the more it looked shonky, and it is. – Anthony
Climate change threatens endangered freshwater turtle

The Mary river turtle (Elusor macrurus), which is restricted to only one river system in Australia, will suffer from multiple problems if temperatures predicted under climate change are reached, researchers from the University of Queensland have shown.
The scientists, who are presenting their work at the Society for Experimental Biology Annual conference in Glasgow on 3rd July 2011, incubated turtle eggs at 26, 29 and 32⁰C. Young turtles which developed under the highest temperature showed reduced swimming ability and a preference for shallower waters.
This combination of physiological and behavioural effects can have dual consequences for survival chances. “Deeper water not only provides the young turtles with protection from predators but is also where their food supply is found,” explains PhD researcher, Mariana Micheli-Campbell. “Young turtles with poor swimming abilities which linger near the surface are unable to feed and are very likely to get picked off by birds. These results are worrying as climate change predictions for the area suggest that nest temperatures of 32⁰C are likely to be reached in the coming decades.”
The Mary river turtle is already listed as endangered by the IUCN Red List and the population has suffered a large decline over the past decades. Some factors known to have affected the population include collection of the eggs for the pet trade and introduced predators such as foxes and dogs. “Whether climate change has already contributed to the decline is not clear,” says Ms. Micheli-Campbell. “But these results show it may be a danger to this species in the future.”
These findings may be shared by other species of turtle, but the outcome is likely to be more extreme in the Mary River turtle as climatic warming is particularly pronounced for this area and the relatively shallow nests of freshwater turtles are more susceptible to changes in ambient temperature than the deeper nests of sea turtles. Further research is needed to understand the effects of climate change on incubation in other turtles.
Here’s what they say on the Queensland government website on the turtle:
From http://www.derm.qld.gov.au/wildlife-ecosystems/wildlife/az_of_animals/mary_river_turtle.html
Threatening processes
Juvenile E. macrurus were subjected to illegal collection for the pet trade throughout the 1960s and 1970s (they were sold as ‘penny turtles’). This collection has meant that an entire generation of turtles was removed from the wild leaving a reduced, aging population.
Today nesting is threatened by egg predation from feral animals and goannas, and nest trampling by cattle. This current threat has the potential to remove another generation from the wild population and place the entire species at risk of extinction. Water quality in the streams it inhabits has declined in the past 20 years. Parts of the Mary River catchment have been cleared and heavily grazed, and on these reaches of the river, the turtle is threatened by the effects of increased runoff, siltation and pollution. A reduction in water quality can be attributed to chemical pollution and sediment runoff; commercial sand-mining upstream of turtle populations; and the direct and indirect effects of grazing activity, which may also influence changes in flow rates. Impoundments that are designed without consideration of turtle conservation may also threaten this species by injuring turtles caught in floodways and high velocity water flows. Impoundments may also impact on turtles by changing flow regimes.
Removal of riparian trees prevents recruitment of logs into the instream environment. Emergent logs and log jams may be important elements of the Mary River turtle’s microhabitat.
Seems to me that “climate change” is the least of the problems, which is probably why it isn’t mentioned.
But let’s take this a step further and look at temperatures. They say in the press release:
The scientists, who are presenting their work at the Society for Experimental Biology Annual conference in Glasgow on 3rd July 2011, incubated turtle eggs at 26, 29 and 32⁰C. Young turtles which developed under the highest temperature showed reduced swimming ability and a preference for shallower waters.
and…
…the outcome is likely to be more extreme in the Mary River turtle as climatic warming is particularly pronounced for this area..
According to the QLD government website on the turtle:
Habitat and distribution
The Mary River turtle occurs in the Mary River, from Gympie, to the tidal reaches just upstream from Maryborough.
and…
Egg morphology and other reproductive characters seem essentially like those of the other turtles in the Family Chelidae with a southern temperate breeding pattern. Nesting occurs in late October and again about one month later.
In a brochure put out by activists protecting the turtle I found:
Nesting occurs from October to January each year, with most of the nesting occurring in November and early December.
Since nesting is in the southern spring and summer, October -January, when high temperatures start ramping up and because the tests done where problems were shown at 32C, which is much higher than that average annual temperature of the area, I think they are most concerned with the maximum temperatures.
Fortunately, BoM maintains long period of record weather stations at both locations and offers Tmax data. The two stations, about 70 km apart span most of the length of the Mary river:

First, Gympie, at the most upstream location. The graph below is from the BoM website.

Source: here Doesn’t look like much of a trend in Tmax does it? In fact it looks warmer in the past around 1910-1920. So where is that:
…the outcome is likely to be more extreme in the Mary River turtle as climatic warming is particularly pronounced for this area… ?
I’ve also plotted the data myself two ways, since BoM helpfully provides a Comma Separated Value file here. Note the caveat BoM offers about the data, something I’ve mentioned before and I’m pleased to see they noted it:
Temperature data prior to 1910 should be used with extreme caution as many stations prior to that date used non-standard shelters.
So I chose start dates of 1910 in my plots. Here’s the annual mean Tmax:

Note the data discontinuity in 1960, which actually spans from about 1956 to 1965. There’s nothing I can do about that, since BoM has no data.
And here is the monthly data plotted for Gympie:

Either way, it appears that there is a downtrend in maximum temperatures at Gympie and that some of the hottest peaks occurred in the past.
Now let’s look at Maryborough, QLD, nearest the ocean delta outlet of the Mary river. Here’s the BoM plot for annual mean Tmax:
Source data here. And my plots:
The trend in Tmax, if there is one, seems essentially flat.
It is important to note that the authors of the turtle study cited incubation temperatures of 32C as being problematic in the development of hatchlings and then go on to say:
These results are worrying as climate change predictions for the area suggest that nest temperatures of 32⁰C are likely to be reached in the coming decades.
Where do they get this 32C assertion from? Perhaps this graph?

Source: http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/soe-online/SOWEB300.jsp?IndicatorId=381
Note that the above graph is an anomaly graph, referenced to a 1961-1990 baseline, or as they say “differences from the 1961-1990 average“. That’s not the same as the actual temperature data, which I plotted and as was shown on the BoM website for Gympie and Maryborough. The coolest period in their actual Tmax records was smack dab in the middle of that 1961-1990 baseline, so of course the present is going to appear warmer compared to that period. But, the fact remains, that in the actual Tmax data for Gympie and Maryborough there is no trend, or a slight negative one.
As for turtle egg incubation worries, I’ll point out that in both Gympie and in Maryborough data, the monthly mean Tmax routinely exceeded 32C in the past, and apparently the turtles did fine before they started becoming pet store “penny turtles” in Australia, decimating the population.
And then there’s this from the SPRAT profile of the Mary river turtle published by the Australian government:
Nest temperatures in the wild vary from 26° to 40° C (Flakus 2002), and the species does not have temperature-dependent sex determination (Georges & McInnes 1998).
40C!? So what’s the problem?
And, guess what? On this second official web page run (the SPRAT profile) by the Australian government on the turtle I found, there’s no mention of “climate change” or “global warming” as being an issue. Zero, Zip Zilch, Nada, None.
Meanwhile, the compliant web press is busily regurgitating the false alarm over the Mary River turtle from this one press release, that doesn’t even have a paper attached to it yet that I can find at the Society for Experimental Biology website.
I checked the SEB sessions for this year’s annual meeting and found nothing, if anyone can spot the paper, please leave a note in comments. I’d really like to read this one. This is why science papers should always be linked to science press releases.
Another thing I find curious is the brochure (PDF) put out by the activists that are protecting the turtle. They have their own website, maryriverturtle.com which is part of the Tiaro & District Landcare Group. According to the Tiaro & District Landcare Group the big push seemed to be to stop the Traveston Crossing Dam:
There’s a lot of chatter about stopping the dam on the activist website.
But, there’s no mention of climate change or global warming in their brochure. Zero, Zip Zilch, Nada, None. Heck, the word “climate” isn’t even mentioned in any context. There’s also no mention on their website using a Google site search for “global warming” , “climate change”, or just plain “climate” on maryriverturtle.com. I’ll bet there will be in a few days now.
But, guess who is listed in the Eurekalert PR announcement:
Yup, Tiaro & District Landcare Group aka maryriverturtle.com with a nice little yellow asterisk next to the name.
I suppose once they got the dam stopped, they needed a new boogeyman to keep people stirred up and active in saving the turtle, so here’s how I see it going down:
They got this grad student, a PhD candidate at the University of Queensland, Mariana Micheli-Campbell to look into the “issue”. The photo below, is from her website:
Also on her website, note that she lists this:
Mary River Turtle Scholarship Program – Tiaro & District Landcare Group, QLD, Australia (2009-2011).
So with the help of the scholarship program from the activist group, she goes to incubate some eggs at 32C and lower temperatures, observes some “issues” at the 32C higher temperature, she speculates about local temperatures in the decades ahead exceeding 32C due to the dreaded global warming while ignoring the historic temperature record, and make a press release with the catch-all protective caveat of “Whether climate change has already contributed to the decline is not clear,” while ignoring the fact that previous peer reviewed science says: Nest temperatures in the wild vary from 26° to 40° C.
The press regurgitates the study globally, (without questioning whether temperatures have ever exceeded 32C in the history of the area or what the previous science says) thanks to it being posted on Eurekalert run by the AAAS. Boom! Instant new problem. Fools rush in. Save the turtle! Cash flows into activist coffers, more research is needed. The circle of research life is completed.
Ah, activist science at its finest, truly it’s turtles all the way down.
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SIDENOTE:
As part of my research, I looked into GISS temperature data, and was shocked at just how bad the coverage was. Here is the GISTEMP selection table for the QLD area of interest:

Within a 228km radius, only two stations, Brisbane and Amberly Aero had current data, yet I was able to get current data from BoM easily. GISS seems to think the data for most of QLD stopped in 1992.
On the plus side, the closest station to Gympie that GISS actually has data for, Brisbane at 147km, shows a cooling trend in the annual Tmean plot:
The other QLD station GISS had, Amberley Aero, seems to have a lot of missing data:
Of course, the full Amberley Aero data since 1941 seems to be available at BoM here: Tmax and Tmin
Note to Gavin Schmidt: As a US taxpayer, may I kindly suggest you get off your RC hobby horse and do some useful work to clean up this missing data mess with some new coding and quality control? If I can find the QLD data, you can, and if people are to have any faith in your work, they shouldn’t be able to find such sloppiness so easily.
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amicus curiae says:
July 4, 2011 at 3:54 am
Our local (New Hampshire USA) Snapping Turtles (much wider range than NH) are slow at crossing roads, I’ve helped a few across. I think it’s legal here! OTOH, Snappers don’t appreciate any help. I think they concentrate swamp muck smell, they keep prying my fingers off with their rear legs, and if I moved my hands forward they’d reach around with their long neck and bite off my fingertips.
Typical size is 25 cm or so across – you really don’t want them around fingers and toes!
Goodness me! Are we really that bad? It seems every time I check out this site there’s another helping of climate nonsense from Australia. Is there a balance problem here? Why are you picking on us? We’re a tiny nation population wise; such that an Australian story should only crop up once every few months, at most.
Mind you on the basis of other issues, I parody our national anthem as “Advance Australia Pathetic”, so maybe it really is that bad…
We have mentally devolved into the Dark Ages.
When logic and science and technology were just memories of past greatness, all events could be explained by:
“It’s God’s Will.”
We now reflexively use:
“It’s Climate Change”
And we all say, “Amen”.
“temperatures predicted under climate change” – i.e. modeled. My model of the sun’s evolution says it will turn into a red gas giant at some point, and all of this will not matter.
Anthony … you might like to look at all Australian BoM stations in the GISS database that are current, or were current to 2008/2009 when I compared the two about a year back – 41 in total across Australia …
http://www.waclimate.net/bomhq-giss-adjust.html
The page is headlined “What happened in 1993?” for reasons that should be apparent in your GISS list of stations above. The BoM data is High Quality adjusted, which has nothing to do with why the BoM temps are consistently lower than GISS pre-93 and consistently higher post-93. Honest.
Ken Stewart has also dug through the data …
http://kenskingdom.wordpress.com/2010/12/06/bom-vs-giss-who’s-right/
By the by, I got home about an hour ago from Lord Monckton’s address in the Wilsmore Lecture Theatre at the University of Western Australia. Almost all seats were taken in the theatre – I’d estimate about 230 people. It was similar to watching four years of WUWT postings condensed to an hour on PowerPoint. The UWA vice-chancellor had distanced the university from tonight’s Monckton lecture (http://www.news.uwa.edu.au/201106303703/uwa-distances-itself-monckton-talk) but I saw no protesters and only two dissenting people in the audience who left in a huff after Monckton cut off their questions (curt, but I think they deserved it).
You could of course try to see if the species takes in other river regions in Australia or on other continents to improve their ability to stay in the evolutionary race. Of course you’d have to fend off OTHER conservationists who’d condemn the invasive species if you succeed.
“WillR says:
July 4, 2011 at 6:30 am”
So it IS about the money! Well…well I need to sit down for a while and ponder how my taxes are being spent. Oh wait! This person is actually forming a conclusion before any ACTUAL research. I want MY money back. She can fund her own “specialty” herself.
I am amazed at the number of species (especially cute ones) that allegedly can’t survive even a modest change in their environment. I thought that natural selection was suppose to weed out the species that are not able to adapt. Wouldn’t it be better to let the species that can’t tolerate minor changes to their environment go extinct, so that nature can evolve more adaptable versions?
It amazes me how non-cute species, like mosquitoes, always are said to thrive in climate change, which as we know will make the world, warmer, colder, drier, and wetter at the same time.
Pamela;
About the MM PhD: you might find it a fascinating tale. IIRC, awarding it was hung up on the merits till a talent for attracting big GW funding surfaced, then was greased thru. Authority over his betters soon followed, exercised in a particularly aggressive and petty manner.
And so it goes.
Ugh. A particularly mendacious and mealy-mouthed distancing, too. Excerpt:
Pamela Gray,
Alas, doctorate means nothing these days, especially in “humanities.” You need to look into the actual work of a person to see if he or she really knows something, Ph.D. be damned.
“Professor” has almost become a swearword: as soon as people hear “professor” they expect no common sense, convenient detachment from reality, conformism, oversimplification hidden by terminological obfuscation — lies, lies, and more lies. It’s not an ivory tower any more, it’s a cesspool.
But we must be brave. Fighting stupidity is a process. It never ends, because a fool is born every minute.
I only wish that somebody with Mr. Watt’s determination and skill would take upon the whole modern culture full of harmful myths and nonsense: political correctness, mandatory respect for religion, abstract paintings, atonal music, lack of electoral qualification, artificially hypertrophied interest in sexual deviations, nonsensical commercialized “sports,” majority of parasites living off the minority of working people, the whole shebang.
Somebody, dissect Lady Gaga for me, please!
re:Pamela Gray says:
July 4, 2011 at 6:09 am
So, this is what passes for Ph.D. candidate doctoral research? We have already dumbed down universities by letting just about anybody with loans/cash/poor-needy-me-scholarships get in. Now we are letting them into Ph.D. programs and throwing hint-hint cash on them. Wonder what Mann did for his doctoral?
On this Independence Day, as in Abraham Lincoln’s day 150 years ago,we are involved in, as he put it, “a struggle for maintaining… that form, and substance of government, whose leading object is, to elevate the condition of men —
to lift artificial weights from all shoulders —
to clear the paths of laudable pursuit for all —
to afford all, an unfettered start, and a fair chance, in the race of life.”
Now as this is my birthday, I will nourish some trees with my grill, while I sit under my American Flag and US Navy Flag, gently lapping the wind. I will raise my ice cold beverage and give thanks.:)
All water-borne animals have to cope with large temperature fluctuations like the ten degrees yearly variation at the Mary River. In warm years they reproduce earlier whereas in cold years later. Furthermore they are very selective in choosing suitable nesting sites. An animal able to leave the water, as turtles and tortoises do, is in an even better position to cope with climate change. No problem.
“…researchers from the University of Queensland…” You could have just stopped there. You may as well get the research done by a Primary school.
Judging by the fact that it’s restricted to only one river system, I’d say the Mary River Turtle backed the wrong gene mix. Happens all the time.
From the weather and not climate department.
There was a piece on the ABC news last night about unusual cold killing dugongs and turtles in North Queensland.
The entire northern half of Australia has been unusually cold over the last month.
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/temp/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=meananom&period=daily&area=nat
THX for keeping the warmists honest
I’d love to know how she clocked the allegedly slow swimming turtles vs. the faster swimming turtles.
Anthony, we will miss you, but if you don’t have time to do what you have to do, what’s the point of all the incredible work you do on WUWT?
Take a break and enjoy it!!
I have seen many studies that examine the effect of incubation temperature on gender ratios among reptiles (including turtles) because they exhibit temperature-dependent sex determination (TSD), based on mean temperatures of the nests at certain critical times during embryonic development. In turtles with TSD, males are generally produced at lower incubation temperatures than females, with this change occurring over a range of temperatures as little as 1-2 °C.