Oh noes!
Then, suddenly, this week, in summer no less, nature decides that snowfalls won’t be a thing of the past after all, and makes bozos of the BBC:
I hate it when that happens.
h/t to Ron De Haan and to Richard North, who has more examples of this hand wringing over snow at his blog, the EU Referendum.
R. Gates says:
June 12, 2011 at 9:32 am
“[…] But the essential truth to take away from this is…don’t use the weather to predict the climate.”
Tell that to the MSM for me, will ya? It gets warm for a few thousand years, glaciers retreat, and all of a sudden, we’re all gonna fry by 2100 and snow will be a thing of the past.
The Earth’s climate never repeats exactly. It varies from snowball Earth to a global tropical paradise with all climate states inbetween getting their day in the sun. Earth’s climate is on a path that started from a state when the Earth was formed to some state that will end with the end of the earth. Periodically, we get stuck in little cycles that last a few million to many millions of years. Then some terrestial or extraterrestrial event kicks Earth’s climate-can a little further down the road. We should enjoy our time in this pleasant little 10,000+ year stretch in the history of Earth, eh?
Tell that to the Warmists. ;>)
By the way Warmists used the lack of snow to make predictions about the future lack of snow and they FAILED. Ski resorts are no longer a thing of the past. How many more years of contradictory evidence do you need man??? or woman. ;O)
Hey, check this out.
You can’t make this sh*t up my friend. Haaaa haaaaaaa!
Failed AGW Predictions And Forecasts
http://www.c3headlines.com/predictionsforecasts/
And Stephen Connor did not know what he was talking about when he said:
Unless of course human history started 12,000 years ago. Below is evidence of an ice-free Arctic ocean during the Holocene.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.quascirev.2010.08.016
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2007AGUFMPP11A0203F
http://geology.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/abstract/21/3/227
‘Around the UK this week counties have been declaring drought conditions after one of warmest and driest springs in memory. ‘
Yet here ‘downunder’, our autumn was the coldest on record and the 4th wettest on record. Sort of averages out the global climate/weather pattern.
Richard S Courtney says:
June 12, 2011 at 4:11 am : Thank you, Richard for taking care of the light work here. I was just about to suggest that Wucash go away and read for a year or two before returning to enlighten us. Maybe a year or five.
The Bangor University research period largely coincided with the NAO being in a strong positive phase. This brings mild Atlantic-type winters to the British Isles and is responsible for many of the recent changes in timing of biological events in Britain that are claimed to be caused by ‘global warming’. The Snowdonia region did, indeed, experience a phase of relatively warm winters in the 1990s and early 2000s but that has been reversed since 2009. In spring 2010 many of the high ranges on and around Snowdon still held much snow cover well down their slopes into May, according to a friend who has made annual bird surveys up there for the past 30 years.
Apropos the Snowdon snow picture heading this news item, I recall seeing the 3,000 ft Carneddau range, north of Snowdon, capped with thick fresh snow on June 2nd in 1975.
‘We have been studying the snows of Snowdon for 14 years’. Bangor University.
When a cycle is 1000 years or more 14 years is too short a time to get any idea as to what will happen in 11 years time.
Who are these so-called scientists at Bangor? Not a good advert for the university I`m afraid. Just shows that the `herd` mentality is alive and well there.
Also: BBC Wales weather keeps on telling us that this has been the warmest spring on record! Just goes to show the tyranny of the `average` and the unawareness of those who use it. Mostly the air temperatures have been on the cool side even during the warmest days.
Someone throw me a lifeline
I’m going down for the third time
And I’m snowblind, snowblind, snowblind
John Marshall says:
June 13, 2011 at 2:58 am
‘We have been studying the snows of Snowdon for 14 years’. Bangor University.
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Maybe Bangor University has a related research project on mountain erosion…
“We have been studying mountain erosion since last week and haven’t observed ANYTHING noticeable. We therefore conclude that Mt. Snowdon has never changed in the past 10,000 years. We, of course, will need to secure additional funds to keep this project on-going, in order to verify our present results.”
/sarc
don penman says:
June 12, 2011 at 3:00 pm
“A draught has been declared here in lincolnshire”
Please someone save me from Yellow-bellies! (My wife is one)! Don, its drought and use a Big L for Lincolnshire! Tsk! 😉
Ian George says:
June 12, 2011 at 7:15 pm
‘Around the UK this week counties have been declaring drought conditions after one of warmest and driest springs in memory. ‘
Only in the south-east. In the north and west it has been a decidedly cool and very wet spring in the UK.
[reply] It’s been very dry on the east side of the Pennines TB-mod
There was no sign of loss of snow this past season.
Huth says:
June 13, 2011 at 8:25 am
March and April was very dry in most areas of the UK
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/2011/3/2011_3_Rainfall_Anomaly_1971-2000.gif
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/2011/4/2011_4_Rainfall_Anomaly_1971-2000.gif
Only dry/very dry in SE with a few exceptions during May.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomacts/2011/5/2011_5_Rainfall_Anomaly_1971-2000.gif
Overall for Spring it has been very dry in England and Wales. (Spring = March, April and May)
Richard I just had to copy your reply to W#ucash, I was going to do it, but you did it better than I was going to!
Richard S Courtney says:
June 12, 2011 at 4:11 am
Wucash:
I have seen many, many dumb comments on the web, but your above comment at June 12, 2011 at 3:47 am has to be one of the dumbest I have ever seen. It says in total:
“To be fair, in 2007 trends showed it to be true. Since then though, snow has recovered world-wide. I guess there’s a lesson for everyone here and on the other side of the debate; weather and climate are too difficult to predict because they are unstable in nature.
Saying that, who knows? Maybe in 2022 all the snow will be gone. You can’t say without a doubt that won’t happen.”
So, “weather and climate are too difficult to predict because they are unstable in nature”. OK, then why should anybody (e.g. the BBC in thecase discussed here) report such predictions as though they were true?
And, “You can’t say without a doubt that won’t happen”. That is true, but you can’t say without a doubt that it will happen, either. Indeed, you assert that “weather and climate are too difficult to predict”. So, should we worry about the large meteorite that may devastate Manhattan Island next year, and should the BBC publish a prediction that it will strike Manhattan Island merely because “You can’t say without a doubt that won’t happen”?
Richard
I think that many forecasters have predicted that the UK will have an unsettled summer with higher than average rain and I can understand that they would see the recent bad weather as conformation of their prediction.The SST anomalies and SST temperatures of the north Atlantic are a bit cooler than they were a couple of years ago when they were regarded as “certain evidence “ that the world was warming because of co2,the cooling may be because of the recent la nina or it could be that the recent low solar minimum is starting to have an effect on the SST.