Oh noes!
Then, suddenly, this week, in summer no less, nature decides that snowfalls won’t be a thing of the past after all, and makes bozos of the BBC:
I hate it when that happens.
h/t to Ron De Haan and to Richard North, who has more examples of this hand wringing over snow at his blog, the EU Referendum.
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Classic….
Well, well, well…it appears that the BBC tried this same story in 2004…
Snow ‘disappears’ from Snowdon
Last Updated: Monday, 20 December, 2004, 16:25 GMT
The snow is disappearing from Snowdon, scientists have claimed.
A study of the snowline on Wales’ icon mountain has found its winter cap has retreated over the past 10 years.
The area covered in snow has decreased from 56,000 sq metres in the winter of 1994/5 to little more than 25,000 sq metres for the past three winters.
Dr Jeremy Williams, of Bangor University, said: “This data confirms what many gardeners believe – winters are not as hard as they used to be.”
The data collected by experts from the university suggests that a white Christmas on Snowdon – the tallest mountain in England and Wales – may one day become no more than a memory.
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Hmmm…where have I heard that idea that snow will become no more than a memory??
Anyhow, fast forward to 2007, and the article cited above…you’ll see that the “report” claiming no more snow for Snowdon was trotted out to support a POLITICAL EVENT…
(from the 2007 story)
“A Welsh assembly energy group will discuss the issue at a conference in Cardiff Bay later.”
“An assembly government spokesperson said First Minister Rhodri Morgan is expected to make a statement shortly on the steps Wales will be taking in the fight against climate change over the next few months.”
Dr Clive Walmsley, climate change expert with the Countryside Council for Wales, one of the bodies taking part in Tuesday’s joint meeting in Cardiff Bay.
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Now, fast forward to Christmas 2010…
Snowdonia Snow Report
Sat 25th Dec 2010
No further snowfall today. Blanket cover of snow at all levels, mainly powder but also windslab deposits in sheltered locations on mainly W aspects. Ice forming at all levels. Previously compacted paths icy. Ice axe and crampons required.
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So, the moral of the story is that some scientists and their willing accomplices in the MSM (in this case the BBC) will say anything to advance their own personal political agendas, even when their evidence is flimsy and unsupported by the facts.
Nothing from the Warmists at the BBC surprises me, but I was looking forward to more warm weather after such a lovely early spring – right now here in Suburban London, it;s raining and we have turned our central heating back on after leaving it turned off for the past month. But as someone said earlier, ole Ma Nature does like to keep to her averages. I sympathise with farmers whose crops are withering in the dry fields, but that kind of risk is part of farming
Maybe in 2022 I will rule the World, And I will appoint all the posters on this blog as my High Ministers!
You can’t Prove it won’t Happen!!!
The earth goes through short cycles of 20-30 years…180 years…1,500 years and 100,000 ice cycles. It all has to due with Sun being driven into and out of active sunspot cycles by our solar system four gas giant planets. The sun corkscrews in tight to wide sweeps pulled off course by the varying planets locations. As the sun’s inertia is more radically changed, more sunspots, more radiation, more solar wind, less cosmic rays, fewer clouds, warmer earth, mars and Pluto. When the sun is quiet as it is now, all the above inverses and the PDO shits to cold as it has. Expect the next 20-30 years being much colder. Fear the next ice age more than the planet warming back up to the times of the Romans or Minoans.
Why don’t people on the left of politics, like those at the BBC, ever get tired of sticking to the party line? Maybe George Clooney will come out with a global warming movie soon. He already made Syriana, a movie filled with political-left exaggerations. Why not make a movie filled with global warming exaggeration? There could be scene of him sweating in Russia, a scene riding in an electric car with Ed Begely, a scene shaking hands with Al Gore at some clandestine meeting about saving the world from evil big industry (they get into private jets to fly away after the meeting), a scene where George Soros is portrayed as a good guy and he funds George to go on some mission to stop skeptics from the progress they are hindering, etc., etc………..
“Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?” – Yossarian, Catch-22
OT but when Heller was interviewed for Playboy in the early 70’s, he hinted that there was a riddle within the story line of that book but wouldn’t reveal what it was. Has anyone reading this perceived what that riddle could be?
Ah. That would be a Crater Lake-ish outlier then. Say goodby to weather stations up there reporting for Hansen’s data base.
If the UK is that dry, then all I can say is that they must not (according to the prevailing talking point opinion) have any water vapor, thus no CO2, in the air. Mother nature strikes at the heart of AGW again.
A main reason I post anonymously here is that i wouldn’t be too surprised if recent cooling turned around and became significant warming again. In my personal opinion it still wouldn’t be caused (mainly) by CO2 generated by people, but I don’t want people to find my opinion on the subject without talking to me personally since I’m not an expert and don’t profess to be one. I have no idea what is going to happen, and I’m not sure anybody else does either.
John Brookes says: June 12, 2011 at 4:44 am
Thinking about a post about the heat in the US? Or does that not interest this site?
The heat in the US? Which part of it? We’re still hitting the 30°s most nights in west central Colorado. The foliage, hummingbirds, and snow runoff are three weeks late this year. I’m sure you can find a heat wave somewhere else.
@John Brookes, Yes the heat concerns me. Aim afraid my heating system may come on in Boston this morning. It is all of 56F outside at 10 AM.
Oh dear, the point I was making is that if you predict definitives it’s bound to blow back in your face. There’s a reason why weather predictions are given in terms of % probability. And yes, they should never have released this blatent propaganda piece, if not for moral reasons, then in terms of not looking silly now.
The wider point I was making is the near certainty some people here talk about the future; ie the apparent coming cooling period (ice age according to some!), there’s not much in terms of evidence to support that, yet some people persist. At least they used to back in winter, but have since then been quieter. Making those kind of predictions is in my view similar to the Beeb’s and the Met’s scaremongering bs.
John Brookes says:
June 12, 2011 at 4:44 am
“Thinking about a post about the heat in the US? Or does that not interest this site?”
I think bad judgement about climate and weather must be contagious. There’s so much of it around. It’s June for heavens sake. June is a WARM month in the Northern hemisphere. (Has something to do with the solstice I’m told). You’d be hard put to find a spot in North America outside the Arctic that doesn’t occasionally approach or exceed 38C (100F) sometimes in June. It is currently 58F in Burlington, VT at 10:00am and I’m thinking of putting on a sweater. Some other temperatures:
New York 62F
Washington DC 81F
Chicago 56F
Dallas 82F
Denver 57F
Sacramento 52F
Looks like a typical June morning to me. Maybe a bit on the cool side. But it’s hot in DC and Dallas? News bulletin. It’s usually #$&@ur momisugly! hot in both those benighted places in the warm months.
“nature . . . makes bozos of the BBC”
Come now, Anthony – give credit where credit is due.
The BBC doesn’t need any help in that regard – they make bozos of themselves. A lot.
I am writing this on a Sunday morning in Toronto. The wind is blowing, it is overcast and the official temp at the airport is 15C. With the wind blowing it feels a whole lot colder. This entire spring, except for the usual anomalous overly hot one or two day jaunt, it is has been WET, WET, WET and colder than I can recall a spring in many years. Everything is very green, so nature is happy. But enough already with the damned cold and damp. Give me some global warming please over southern Ontario…..
Has anyone been tracking the jet stream? Maybe this is why it is so damned cool over large parts of N.A…..at a time when it is usually very warm.
Funny stuff. Snow is a thing of the past. The fact is, the northern hemisphere’s snow extent has increased over the last 20 years. http://suyts.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/image5.png. Last night, I trended the last thirty years for North America, http://suyts.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/image_thumb7.png?w=829&h=499…… damn beer! I wanted to do twenty to compare, but it can be easily discerned by comparing the two graphs that Eurasia is increasing in snow extent too……….. oh heck…… I’ll just do it in a few……
John Brookes says:
June 12, 2011 at 4:44 am
Thinking about a post about the heat in the US? Or does that not interest this site?
You have been listening too much to the US media, which ios all based on the East coast, thus the US weather is always whatever it happens to be in New York.
Here on the West coast, we still have record snow-packs, and a good chance that they won’t completely melt before the next lot begins to fall.
Highest temperatures we have seen (and its been rare) has been in the 70’s. Yesterday saw 71!!!
Portland had its annual Rose Festival with no roses, because all plants are running WEEKS late due to the cold.
So, go ahead and tell us all about that heat in the US (just don;t forget to mention that its restricted to a relatively small area).
“they make bozos of themselves. A lot”
On our money.
A totally taxpayer/licence-payer funded far-left/green/communist organisation.
Communism never “went away”, it just morhed into “green”
To be fair, we shouldn’t criticize someone who puts a trendline on a historic temperature curve and projects ad infunitum. Obviously, they are irrecoverably ignorant to reality and deserve our simpathy.
Alan Ogden (June 12, 2011 at 5:09 am)
Yeah – I’ve been following the plowing of Going-to-the-Sun Road in Glacier NP. I have huge sympathies for the crews and what they are facing this year. The photos are unbelieveable.
http://diggingintheclay.wordpress.com/2011/06/12/going-slowly-on-going-to-the-sun-road/
“suddenly, this week, in summer no less, nature decides that snowfalls won’t be a thing of the past after all”
Another beautiful theory slain by an ugly fact.
Conversely, Murray Grainger is correct: the fact that snowy Snowdon lacks camels is affirmation of the merit of the Aussie proposal to shoot (“humanely”, of course) all camels so as to end AGW …
I live pretty close to Snowdon and the amount of snow on there has more to do with wind direction than temperature. If the wind, and the snow, comes from the north then Snowdon is effectively in the shadow of a range of 3,000 foot peaks to the north (The Glyder Range – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyderau) and that is where the snow mainly falls. From memory, that is mostly what has happened over the last few years. If the snow comes from the S.E. or S.W. then Snowdon will be more heavily covered. There are days when the Glyders are covered down to about 1,000 feet and Snowdon is not. Mount Elidir can have snow on the north facing side and none at all on the south side where it faces Snowdon across the valley. Research which takes snow cover on Mount Snowdon in isolation is effectively meaningless! But that won’t stop research with an agenda…
@John Brookes
Take this as a bit of anectdotal evidence on the temperatures in the US, I live in Georgia and Missouri both of which had unusually long and cold winters and meteorological springs this past year. Summer in the meteorological sense is only a couple of weeks old in Missouri with spring temperature lasting until late May. Georgia was a bit closer to normal starting summer temps in early May but, this is only southern Georgia the northern sections were much like Missouri. And as far as the heat is concerned its no where close to abnormal given we are used to temps in the triple digits which I have yet to see.
Verity Jones says:
June 12, 2011 at 8:42 am
>Yeah – I’ve been following the plowing of Going-to-the-Sun Road in Glacier NP.
I went through there in 1974 too, probably July 2nd. (BTW, thank you for linking to my comment in you Massive Drifts post.) It would have been really neat but tough ride, but the park service decided the narrow road was too dangerous for bicyclists and banned them. When I was there, the hue and cry had forced them to reconsider and they were going to open it in the mornings, but not for a week or two.
So I crossed it in the back of a pickup truck driven by a drunk indian. Haven’t been back to take the pictures I missed.