Guest Post by Ira Glickstein.
When Lord Monckton told Congress “CO2 is plant food”, the Global Warming activists went crazy because … well, because they know he spoke an inconvenient truth. Monckton’s statement was ridiculed in many blog posts and You Tube videos, but no one directly contradicted his claim because it is clearly correct. Instead, they changed the subject to the supposed effects of rising Carbon Dioxide: too little AND too much precipitation (drought/flood), unusually high AND low temperatures (burn/freeze), and other contradictory consequences.
But, no one can deny the truth. Plants live on CO2. They are made of carbohydrates (carbon, hydrogen, oxygen). They get their carbon from the CO2 in the atmosphere. It is a fact that the best food crop yields occur when plants are grown in atmospheres that are triple or quadruple current CO2 levels. That proves current CO2 levels are way below most of the period of plant life evolution and adaptation on Earth.
This posting is about a concept that unites two technologies I predict will gain prominence in coming decades: Underground Coal Gasification and Elevated CO2 Farming, and how they may be united to provide a sustainable ENERGY and FOOD supply for the coming century.
See Clean Coal (Say WATT?) for an introduction to the concept of clean coal as a critical part of our energy future.
Also download this narrated PowerPoint Show for an animated version of this posting, complete with audio description and more detailed graphics than posted here.
SUSTAINABLE ENERGY AND FOOD CONCEPT
The concept illustrated in the graphic is based on using underground gasified coal (or coal to liquid as an alternative) to generate both electrical POWER and provide CO2 as a plant food in an elevated CO2 greenhouse that produces FOOD as a byproduct, with biomass feedback to generate biogas as additional fuel for power generation.
As indicated, there are three steps to the process:
- Underground Coal Gasification, Burning the Coalgas to POWER the generation of electricity, and Capture of the resultant CO2 (the plant food).
- Growing FOOD in an elevated CO2 greenhouse where, using the captured CO2 and the energy of the Sun, yields are greatly improved.
- Recycling the cellulose and other non-edible biowaste into biogas (methane, etc.) that may be fed back into the fuel supply system for electrical power generation.
WHY COAL?
Coal is currently the most used fuel for generating electrical power in the US, and it is the centerpiece of this concept because it is the most plentiful here and in many other countries. As indicated in the graphic, fossil fuels, namely coal, natural gas, and oil, constitute about 70% of electrical generation in the US. These fuels create CO2 when burned. CO2 has been depicted as a poison, with James Hansen calling coal trains “death trains” and coal-fired electric plants “factories of death”. There are proposals to capture the CO2 and re-sequester it by pumping it into old oil wells, perhaps extracting additional oil by doing so. It seems to me it would be smarter to use the CO2 for the purpose Nature intended, as plant food!
The remaining 30% of US electric generation may be considered “green”. Of that, most is nuclear. We should have done a better job using nuclear, as France did, but we were scared away from it by the dangers of release of radiation and radioactive waste. There is a resurgence of interest in nuclear and we may see more new plants built at some time in the future, but the regulatory environment is daunting.
The “renewable” component of “green” energy makes up about 11.5% of the US total, and consists mostly of water (hydroelectric) with some wind and other sources such as direct solar electric. These pure forms of “green” will probably grow, under the umbrella of government subsidies, but they are unlikely to provide much more than 20% of our electricity for decades, if ever.
MORE DETAIL ON THE SUSTAINABLE ENERGY AND FOOD CONCEPT
The chemistry of the concept is diagrammed in the graphic.
1) Gasified Coal-Fired Power Plant with CO2 Capture
(a) Underground Gasified Coal.
Coalgas (also called synthetic gas or syngas) may be generated within a coal mine. This is done almost completely underground to reduce transport costs and pollution. Safety is improved because there are no personnel required within the mine itself. This technique is especially suitable for very deep mines, where traditional methods would be more expensive, or for low-quality or depleted mines. Newly developed technology makes possible robots that operate in harsh environments as well as remotely-controlled sensors and actuators that permit the highest possible level of control of the gasification process.
Gasification works by first igniting the coal within the coal seam and then pumping in air and water in quantities that are just sufficient to maintain incomplete combustion, such that combustible Hydrogen and Carbon Monoxide are generated. The chemistry is as follows:
6C {carbon from coal} + 2H2O {water} + 2O2 {Oxygen from air} ==> Coalgas: 4H {hydrogen} + 6CO {Carbon Monoxide}
Description of formula: Coal is almost completely carbon. Six Carbon atoms (6C) are combined with two water molecules (2H2O) and two Oxygen molecules (2O2) to produce Coalgas that consists of four hydrogen atoms (4H) and six Carbon Monoxide molecules (6CO).
Coalgas may be further processed to yield liquid from coal, or it may be used directly as fuel in an electrical power plant.
(b) Burning the Coalgas and Capturing the CO2.
The coalgas is piped to the power plant where it is burned to heat the boiler and generate steam to run the generators. Electrical POWER is transmitted to customers via the grid.
The chemistry is as follows:
Coalgas: 4H {Hydrogen} + 6CO {Carbon Monoxide} + 4O2 {Oxygen from air} ==> POWER + 6CO2 {Carbon Dioxide} + 2H2O {Water}
Description of formula: Coalgas, consisting of four Hydrogen atoms (4H) and the six Carbon Monoxide molecules (6CO), when burned in the powerplant, yield POWER to drive generation of electricity plus six Carbon Dioxide molecules (6CO2) and two water molecules (2H2O).
CO2 has been wrongly depicted as a poison. There are projects underway to re-sequester the carbon by pumping it into abandoned oil wells and so on, possibly recovering additional oil in the process. However, since CO2 is plant food, I think it makes far more sense to capture and utilize this valuable product to grow food!
The current concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is about 390 ppm (parts per million). Doubling or tripling that level in a CO2 greenhouse can greatly increase the yield of many crops. It turns out that 1000 to 1400 ppm is ideal for increasing production of tomatoes, cucumbers and lettuce by from 20% to 50%; grains such as rice, wheat, barley, oats, and rye by from 25% to 64%; roots such as potatoes, yams, and cassava by from 18% to 75%, and legumes such as peas, beans, and soybeans by 28% to 46%! It is likely that genetic engineering could develop new food crops that would thrive in CO2 levels of 2000 ppm or even higher, greatly increasing yields.
CO2 is essential to photosynthesis, the process by which plants use sunlight to produce carbohydrates – the material of which their roots, body, and fruits consist. Increasing CO2 level reduces the time needed by plants to mature. CO2 enters the plant through microscopic pores that are mainly located on the underside of the leaf. This enables plants to combine CO2 and water, with the aid of light energy, to form sugar. Nutrients and water uptake usually increase with higher levels of CO2 and plants develop larger, more extensive root systems that allow them to exploit additional pockets of water and nutrients, and spend less metabolic energy to capture vital nutrients. The chemistry is as follows:
6CO2 {Carbon Dioxide) + 2H2O {water} + 4H2O (added water) + SOLAR ENERGY ==> C6H12O6 (sugar} + 6O2 {Oxygen}
Description of formula: The combustion process produced six Carbon Dioxide molecules (i.e. PLANT FOOD) plus 2 water molecules. To these we add four molecules of water plus the ENERGY from the Sun. This yields FOOD in the form of a sugar molecule as well as six molecules of Oxygen, released into the atmosphere to partially compensate for some of the Oxygen used during the combustion process.
3) Recycling Cellulose to Biogas. Parts of the plant that are inedible, such as cellulose (chemical formula C6H10O6), are biowaste that may be fermented to form biogas, such as methane, which may be pumped back into the combustion process described in step (1).
CONCLUSIONS
The sustainable ENERGY and FOOD concept outlined here has the potential to provide necessary electricity along with foods in the form of vegetables, grains, roots, and legumes in a most efficient manner with minimum release of CO2 to the atmosphere. The concept makes use of coal, which is plentiful in the US and many other countries.
It will be many decades, if ever, before renewable energy sources, such as wind, water, and solar can provide levels of electricity needed for the human population. Nuclear energy, currently around 30% in the US, is probably the best alternative, as France, with over 70%, and other countries have demonstrated. However, despite growing acceptance of nuclear in the US, it remains fraught with regulatory paralysis and “not in my backyard” parochialism.
Clean coal, which even President Obama has said he will defend, is the best answer for the coming several decades at least. There are two aspects to clean coal: (a) Prior to combustion: Reducing release of pollutants onto land or into water or the atmosphere, and (b) After combustion: Capturing and re-sequestering the CO2 and other products of combustion. Underground coal gasification (or the alternative, coal to liquid) is the answer to (a). However, the idea that the answer to (b) should be sequestering CO2 by pumping into old oil wells strikes me as a waste of a valuable plant food resource.
I’m just a systems engineer, but I’m quick on the uptake and have the ability to absorb a little bit about a lot of things – just enough to come up with innovative concepts that may or may not be practical (and, even if practical, are bound to have some sticking points that need lots of detailed study, science, and engineering :^). I love to work with domain experts who know how to dig deep in their area of specialization. I’d appreciate comments on this proposal by WUWT readers who have, I am sure, far more detailed and specific knowledge of the science and technology involved in this concept.




I have a friend who designs greenhouses, and sent him a link to this article. He informed me of a project in nearby Rifle, Colorado which attempted this model and failed. Several acres of greenhouses are now being disassembled. It was at the Rifle Co-Generation Plant, using excess CO2 from coal gasification. I don’t know what failed, just heard of it moments ago.
Tim Folkerts says:
January 7, 2011 at 7:00 pm
The sun will not start expanding toward red giant for at least a couple of billion years, possibly more. Your Gaia picture is wrong.
The picture of Gaia might well be wrong, but my picture of the sun is not. Stars evolve even while on the main sequence. The sun has been gradually increasing in luminosity since it formed. That has amounted to an increase of around 20% change, or a change in insolation of around 200 W/m^2 over the last 4.5 Billion years. People get concerned over forcing changes of 1 or 2 W/m^2. Imaging a forcing change of 100-200 W/m^2!
Somehow Gaia has INDEED compensated for the increasing energy, maintaining a habitable temperature for billions of years. And if you look at CO2, you will see that it has indeed been decreasing. I would not be at all surprised that life has engineered GHGs like CO2 to keep the earth in a zone where life is possible. (I would also not be surprised by other mechanism like changes in the water cycle playing a major role as well.
The following graphs of palaeo measurements of CO2 with global temperature:
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/289/logwarmingpaleoclimate.png
http://img404.imageshack.us/i/tempandco2geologictime.png/
The first shows that over all CO2 concentrations above about 300 ppm, there is no relationship, the regression is a horizontal line.
The second shows that although CO2 has periodically dipped every 150 MYrs or so, there is no real trend down, we are in a dip now so its sort of cherry picking to claim a long term decrease.
Comparing the temperature and CO2 curves, there is no evidence whatsoever for a causative link between CO2 and temperature.
You state correctly that solar output has increased 20% over 4.5 billion years. However the data above concerns only the Phanerozoic, over the last 500 MYrs. over this period the solar increase has only been 2%.
All this data together does not really add up to CO2 acting in a GAIA mode – metaphorically or otherwise.
Note also – below 150 ppm, CO2 starvation of plants begins, CO2 deficiency starts to seriously limit plant growth. Zero CO2 means extinction of life on earth.
The more I look at all this the more I feel good about our emission of CO2 and CO2 increases from 270 to 380 ppm and above.
All this data together does not really add up to CO2 acting in a GAIA mode – metaphorically or otherwise.
I will agree there. Neither my “fairy tale” nor Grey Lensman’s exactly opposite “fairy tale” has sufficient evidence to be anywhere conclusive. Both are fun to look at and both are philosophically interesting, but certainly we cannot attribute the real world temperatures to either. It is much better to look at things scientifically than to try to attribute changes to mythical beings.
Sorry this arrived so late or I’d mail you one of my massive tomato monsters we grew in our little plastic CO2 tent this past summer, Anthony. CO2 came from yeast generators loaded with sugar and water in 2 liter coke bottles that kept getting more numerous as the two kids from up the street and I kept increasing our CO2 intensity to over 5000 ppm near the end of the growing season. I’m no scientist, but a metrologist, so we ate the “results” to prevent FoIA lawsuits as we were “privately funded” by my credit card.
After the Gore lies the greenies at the local schools fed these confused kids, I decided to show them CO2 was not poison and started out with a plastic tent loaded with it double the atmosphere with us all inside not gasping for breath. Then, we started planting things inside and outside the tent to see if there was any difference increasing the CO2 to “breathtaking” levels that would kill an AGW priest.
Well, I’d like to report your hypothesis was spot on to our intensive research with sharp knife and salt shaker. The veggies were delicious. We never did kill anything, including the damned bugs who got in the tent and seemed unphased by ANY level of CO2 I could so crudely produce. We made the mistake of spraying, ONCE, and while the bugs were all laughing and rolling around, we killed our yeast colonies and had to start over…..(sigh)
Larry
I busted your scheme, see posts above”
Douglas
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Maybe it’s O.K. if you live in an affluent society and can afford it but most of us don’t live in an affluent society and can’t indulge ourselves in this way. Moreover, people are deluded into thinking that ‘organically’ grown food is more nutritious than conventionally grown food but this is not proven.
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Busted, you rush to judgement. I live in a very poor community, I see every day how poor peasants are deceived. Loads of studies show that modern factory produce do not contain the text book nutrient level. There is a huge difference between profit and efficiency.
Prior to 1910, only about 0.5% of people had cars. your comment means nothing. There are many people, in the real world, doing great work rather than publish papers.
Example several Indonesian studies, peer reviewed and published show that poor subsistence farmers can increase their yield of coconuts by using fertiliser. However, this results in a loss to the farmer because the fertiliser costs more than the cash from the increased yield. So they ran an alternative study and found that using organic fertiliser, I.E. old palm fronds, the farmers got better yilds and made more money.
Thus it seems the guy who spent the little money he had on fertiliser lost out but the people selling and making the fertiliser made a killing.
Sad thing is nobody told the farmers, the reports molder in Libraries and the Researchers have got their PHDS and jobs with big food.
Nutrient content of modern foods, find out for yourself, I am not here as a crutch for you.
Douglas also said
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For starters, in the U.S., organic products typically cost 10 to 40% more than similar conventionally produced products.
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Thats a classic scam. What they cost in the shops has nothing to do with what they really cost to produce. We all want to make money, sad but true. Refer bankers and their bonuses.
I suggest that you read Iras quote from Einstein above.
Here is a report regarding the Rifle, CO plant, written before it closed. I haven’t read this yet, but am told some positive things are said on pp. 12-14.
http://www.rifleco.org/documents/Planning/Long%20Range/Rifle%20Opportunity%20Analysis.pdf
Tim Folkerts says:
January 8, 2011 at 2:46 pm
All this data together does not really add up to CO2 acting in a GAIA mode – metaphorically or otherwise.
I will agree there. Neither my “fairy tale” nor Grey Lensman’s exactly opposite “fairy tale” has sufficient evidence to be anywhere conclusive. Both are fun to look at and both are philosophically interesting, but certainly we cannot attribute the real world temperatures to either. It is much better to look at things scientifically than to try to attribute changes to mythical beings.
I’m happy to agree to that. It may however be unfair to dismiss the term “Gaia” unreservedly – it has a range of meanings. Lovelock’s original theory was a serious one and I believe it has some merit – the biosphere can modify the environment in its own favour – just look at the role of prokaryotes in oxygenating our atmosphere 1-3 billion years back. As a complex chaotic system it is plausible that the biosphere could exert global regulatory feedbacks beneficial to itself (refer to the Constructal law of Bejam/Essenbach). However “Gaia” to some retains its original meaning as a purely pagan deity, a sort of Earth mother. It can also be used by environmentalists just as an emotive term for the earth or biosphere.
Larry;
Excellent tomato-roots level research!
But I bet the bugs were unfazed, not unphased. 😉
Larry;
P.S. If those were crawling bugs, you could use Diatomaceous Earth, readily available at most garden centers. It’s just fine-ground diatom shells, microscopic sharp shards. They slice-n-dice the buggers’ exoskeletons, with mortal results. Non-toxic and harmless to the rest of us.
Works great for bedbugs, too!
But avoid getting on blooms that bees visit; it’ll take them out as well.