CO2 is Plant Food (Clean Coal, Say WATT?)

Guest Post by Ira Glickstein.

When Lord Monckton told Congress “CO2 is plant food”, the Global Warming activists went crazy because … well, because they know he spoke an inconvenient truth. Monckton’s statement was ridiculed in many blog posts and You Tube videos, but no one directly contradicted his claim because it is clearly correct. Instead, they changed the subject to the supposed effects of rising Carbon Dioxide: too little AND too much precipitation (drought/flood), unusually high AND low temperatures (burn/freeze), and other contradictory consequences.

But, no one can deny the truth. Plants live on CO2. They are made of carbohydrates (carbon, hydrogen, oxygen). They get their carbon from the CO2 in the atmosphere. It is a fact that the best food crop yields occur when plants are grown in atmospheres that are triple or quadruple current CO2 levels. That proves current CO2 levels are way below most of the period of plant life evolution and adaptation on Earth.

This posting is about a concept that unites two technologies I predict will gain prominence in coming decades: Underground Coal Gasification and Elevated CO2 Farming, and how they may be united to provide a sustainable ENERGY and FOOD supply for the coming century.

See Clean Coal (Say WATT?) for an introduction to the concept of clean coal as a critical part of our energy future.

Also download this narrated PowerPoint Show for an animated version of this posting, complete with audio description and more detailed graphics than posted here.

SUSTAINABLE ENERGY AND FOOD CONCEPT

The concept illustrated in the graphic is based on using underground gasified coal (or coal to liquid as an alternative) to generate both electrical POWER and provide CO2 as a plant food in an elevated CO2 greenhouse that produces FOOD as a byproduct, with biomass feedback to generate biogas as additional fuel for power generation.

As indicated, there are three steps to the process:

  1. Underground Coal Gasification, Burning the Coalgas to POWER the generation of electricity, and Capture of the resultant CO2 (the plant food).
  2. Growing FOOD in an elevated CO2 greenhouse where, using the captured CO2 and the energy of the Sun, yields are greatly improved.
  3. Recycling the cellulose and other non-edible biowaste into biogas (methane, etc.) that may be fed back into the fuel supply system for electrical power generation.

WHY COAL?

Coal is currently the most used fuel for generating electrical power in the US, and it is the centerpiece of this concept because it is the most plentiful here and in many other countries. As indicated in the graphic, fossil fuels, namely coal, natural gas, and oil, constitute about 70% of electrical generation in the US. These fuels create CO2 when burned. CO2 has been depicted as a poison, with James Hansen calling coal trains “death trains” and coal-fired electric plants “factories of death”. There are proposals to capture the CO2 and re-sequester it by pumping it into old oil wells, perhaps extracting additional oil by doing so. It seems to me it would be smarter to use the CO2 for the purpose Nature intended, as plant food!

The remaining 30% of US electric generation may be considered “green”. Of that, most is nuclear. We should have done a better job using nuclear, as France did, but we were scared away from it by the dangers of release of radiation and radioactive waste. There is a resurgence of interest in nuclear and we may see more new plants built at some time in the future, but the regulatory environment is daunting.

The “renewable” component of “green” energy makes up about 11.5% of the US total, and consists mostly of water (hydroelectric) with some wind and other sources such as direct solar electric. These pure forms of “green” will probably grow, under the umbrella of government subsidies, but they are unlikely to provide much more than 20% of our electricity for decades, if ever.

MORE DETAIL ON THE SUSTAINABLE ENERGY AND FOOD CONCEPT

The chemistry of the concept is diagrammed in the graphic.

1) Gasified Coal-Fired Power Plant with CO2 Capture

(a) Underground Gasified Coal.

Coalgas (also called synthetic gas or syngas) may be generated within a coal mine. This is done almost completely underground to reduce transport costs and pollution. Safety is improved because there are no personnel required within the mine itself. This technique is especially suitable for very deep mines, where traditional methods would be more expensive, or for low-quality or depleted mines. Newly developed technology makes possible robots that operate in harsh environments as well as remotely-controlled sensors and actuators that permit the highest possible level of control of the gasification process.

Gasification works by first igniting the coal within the coal seam and then pumping in air and water in quantities that are just sufficient to maintain incomplete combustion, such that combustible Hydrogen and Carbon Monoxide are generated. The chemistry is as follows:

6C {carbon from coal} + 2H2O {water} + 2O2 {Oxygen from air} ==> Coalgas: 4H {hydrogen} + 6CO {Carbon Monoxide}

Description of formula: Coal is almost completely carbon. Six Carbon atoms (6C) are combined with two water molecules (2H2O) and two Oxygen molecules (2O2) to produce Coalgas that consists of four hydrogen atoms (4H) and six Carbon Monoxide molecules (6CO).

Coalgas may be further processed to yield liquid from coal, or it may be used directly as fuel in an electrical power plant.

(b) Burning the Coalgas and Capturing the CO2.

The coalgas is piped to the power plant where it is burned to heat the boiler and generate steam to run the generators. Electrical POWER is transmitted to customers via the grid.

The chemistry is as follows:

Coalgas: 4H {Hydrogen} + 6CO {Carbon Monoxide} + 4O2 {Oxygen from air} ==> POWER + 6CO2 {Carbon Dioxide} + 2H2O {Water}

Description of formula: Coalgas, consisting of four Hydrogen atoms (4H) and the six Carbon Monoxide molecules (6CO), when burned in the powerplant, yield POWER to drive generation of electricity plus six Carbon Dioxide molecules (6CO2) and two water molecules (2H2O).

CO2 has been wrongly depicted as a poison. There are projects underway to re-sequester the carbon by pumping it into abandoned oil wells and so on, possibly recovering additional oil in the process. However, since CO2 is plant food, I think it makes far more sense to capture and utilize this valuable product to grow food!

2. Elevated CO2 Greenhouse.

The current concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere is about 390 ppm (parts per million). Doubling or tripling that level in a CO2 greenhouse can greatly increase the yield of many crops. It turns out that 1000 to 1400 ppm is ideal for increasing production of tomatoes, cucumbers and lettuce by from 20% to 50%; grains such as rice, wheat, barley, oats, and rye by from 25% to 64%; roots such as potatoes, yams, and cassava by from 18% to 75%, and legumes such as peas, beans, and soybeans by 28% to 46%! It is likely that genetic engineering could develop new food crops that would thrive in CO2 levels of 2000 ppm or even higher, greatly increasing yields.

CO2 is essential to photosynthesis, the process by which plants use sunlight to produce carbohydrates – the material of which their roots, body, and fruits consist. Increasing CO2 level reduces the time needed by plants to mature. CO2 enters the plant through microscopic pores that are mainly located on the underside of the leaf. This enables plants to combine CO2 and water, with the aid of light energy, to form sugar. Nutrients and water uptake usually increase with higher levels of CO2 and plants develop larger, more extensive root systems that allow them to exploit additional pockets of water and nutrients, and spend less metabolic energy to capture vital nutrients. The chemistry is as follows:

6CO2 {Carbon Dioxide) + 2H2O {water} + 4H2O (added water) + SOLAR ENERGY ==> C6H12O6 (sugar} + 6O2 {Oxygen}

Description of formula: The combustion process produced six Carbon Dioxide molecules (i.e. PLANT FOOD) plus 2 water molecules. To these we add four molecules of water plus the ENERGY from the Sun. This yields FOOD in the form of a sugar molecule as well as six molecules of Oxygen, released into the atmosphere to partially compensate for some of the Oxygen used during the combustion process.

3) Recycling Cellulose to Biogas. Parts of the plant that are inedible, such as cellulose (chemical formula C6H10O6), are biowaste that may be fermented to form biogas, such as methane, which may be pumped back into the combustion process described in step (1).

CONCLUSIONS

The sustainable ENERGY and FOOD concept outlined here has the potential to provide necessary electricity along with foods in the form of vegetables, grains, roots, and legumes in a most efficient manner with minimum release of CO2 to the atmosphere. The concept makes use of coal, which is plentiful in the US and many other countries.

It will be many decades, if ever, before renewable energy sources, such as wind, water, and solar can provide levels of electricity needed for the human population. Nuclear energy, currently around 30% in the US, is probably the best alternative, as France, with over 70%, and other countries have demonstrated. However, despite growing acceptance of nuclear in the US, it remains fraught with regulatory paralysis and “not in my backyard” parochialism.

Clean coal, which even President Obama has said he will defend, is the best answer for the coming several decades at least. There are two aspects to clean coal: (a) Prior to combustion: Reducing release of pollutants onto land or into water or the atmosphere, and (b) After combustion: Capturing and re-sequestering the CO2 and other products of combustion. Underground coal gasification (or the alternative, coal to liquid) is the answer to (a). However, the idea that the answer to (b) should be sequestering CO2 by pumping into old oil wells strikes me as a waste of a valuable plant food resource.

I’m just a systems engineer, but I’m quick on the uptake and have the ability to absorb a little bit about a lot of things – just enough to come up with innovative concepts that may or may not be practical (and, even if practical, are bound to have some sticking points that need lots of detailed study, science, and engineering :^). I love to work with domain experts who know how to dig deep in their area of specialization. I’d appreciate comments on this proposal by WUWT readers who have, I am sure, far more detailed and specific knowledge of the science and technology involved in this concept.

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Grey Lensman
January 7, 2011 1:58 am

Frosty, read the response above your, yields that they have achieved.
You also need to understand that yield is not everything, quality and nutritional content counts was well.
So you think outside the box, good rich organic soil, good organic nutrients, co2, heat, light, moisture, what next.
Organic nano molecular seed stimulation, produces a net doubling in quality yield, stops the use of fertiliser, and pesticides and is very very cost effective. It also enables seeds to germinate to order just when all the conditions are right. It also allows and encourages several varieties to grow in the same field, Drought, no problem, most survive, flood no problem most survive. Its real working principles of biodiversity and science, not fear mongering and “cant do that”

Grey Lensman
January 7, 2011 2:27 am

Jamie says
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super-efficient farming practices are probably the way to go.
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Believe it or not small farms are more efficient, grow a great diversity and are more resilient than so called efficient super farms. Plus organic farming cost no more than factory farming.
Food for thought indeed.

LazyTeenager
January 7, 2011 2:40 am

Ira spins
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These fuels create CO2 when burned. CO2 has been depicted as a poison, with James Hansen calling coal trains “death trains” and
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No it has NOT been depicted as a poison. It has been depicted as being dangerous by overheating, if too much is put into the atmosphere.
This is playing semantic tricks. Is a truck poisonous if you get run over by one?

LazyTeenager
January 7, 2011 2:54 am

Ira sensibly suggests
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additional oil in the process. However, since CO2 is plant food, I think it makes far more sense to capture and utilize this valuable product to grow food!
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I think this proposal is a good one. The idea of surrounding ALL power stations with agricultural green houses fed with waste CO2 seems like a no-brainer to me.
Large scale green housing is already popular in some countries so it can’t be that far away from being commercially feasible. I believe there has been some startups moving in this direction.
If you add in other ingredients such bio-fuels from algae fed by the same CO2 stream and biochar to finally sequester the carbon you have a plausible system that looks far less technically risky than most.
So stop the hand waving, what are the figures to prove or disprove its feasibility? Do multi-domain systems like this have a chance of getting off the ground?

Roger Longstaff
January 7, 2011 2:56 am

I think that this is a very good work of conceptual system engineering. The detractors miss the point – given the increased efficiencies in the processes involved, can cost effective solutions be found to engineering the required components ?
As populations increase, and food prices spiral, any new technology will have a “break even point”. Like all innovative system engineering concepts I think that this one is worthy of at least initial study (which does not need to be expensive), by a team that includes specialists in the individual disciplines involved. If it proves to be impractical, or unecomomic, we will have lerned something and can move on.
A good first step to combating food shortages would be to end the insanity of turning crops into fuel for cars!

Tom Mills
January 7, 2011 3:05 am

At the end of the day the CO2 produced by fossil fuels is just returning to the atmosphere that which they absorbed when they were plants.

jamie
January 7, 2011 3:10 am

grey lensman
“Believe it or not small farms are more efficient, grow a great diversity and are more resilient than so called efficient super farms. Plus organic farming cost no more than factory farming.”
As I say, I prefer a more organic approach. For many reasons, I try to buy local and free range/organic prodice as much as possible too.
But I don’t think that it is more efficient in terms of yield (not sure how else you would guage it). If it were, why is organic fruit and veg always significantly more expensive than the so called “regular” stuff?
And the post about Holland also shows this. They are able to extract a maximum amount of value from the minimum amount of land by using these modern techniques. They’ve created a multi-billion euro industry this way. Surely they wouldn’t do it this way if traditional methods were more efficient.

Rabe
January 7, 2011 3:26 am

Grey Lensman,
after reading your first response I thought you may have left out the [/sarc] label at the end. Well your second leaves some questions:

good rich organic soil, good organic nutrients

what exactly makes them “good” compared to what?

Organic nano molecular seed stimulation, produces… quality yield.

Organic nano molecular seed stimulation… stops the use of fertiliser

Why exactly (with references to scientific peer-reviewed papers, not feel good tell tales) is this desirable?

Organic nano molecular seed stimulation… stops the use of… pesticides

Who tested this? Where can I look it up?
The rest looks like a mix up of well known platitudes from an all knowing, for instance

Its real working principles of biodiversity and science, not fear mongering…

Your “pesticides” example looks exactly like that, fear mongering.

kim
January 7, 2011 3:26 am

LT 2:54
I notice the term ‘no brainer’ and ‘handwaving’ in your post. I suggest you find numbers making your ‘greenhouses surrounding power plants’ cost effective. There, now; go forth and be useful.
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arthur clapham
January 7, 2011 3:46 am

I made a simple device to produce C02 from yeast sugar and water, placed it in my
greenhouse and the produced the heaviest crop of tomatoes I have ever grown!

Urederra
January 7, 2011 3:47 am

Tim Folkerts says:
January 6, 2011 at 8:35 pm
After a little Googling, I was surprised to see just how extensive greenhouses already are in some areas (like Almería in Spain and the Netherlands). So perhaps the economics are no quite as but as I would have guessed at first. I suspect, even so, that only “high value” crops would be economical (like vegetables and flowers, not rice and wheat).

There is a webpage called worldmapper, “where territories are re-sized on each map according to the subject of interest.” If you go to food exports, you would see that Spain and The Netherlands are the top net exporters of vegetables, measured in US dollars worth of veggies.
http://www.worldmapper.org/display.php?selected=43

1DandyTroll
January 7, 2011 3:50 am

However good the idea in all its fanciness, it usually just that, fancy.
How many permits would be required for even an old abandoned mine and at what cost?
What would it cost just to battle the environmental organizations, of all sorts, in media and in court rooms to just get the go ahead to start looking at what the cost will be to fill in the cracks of an old mine to seal it from potential hazardous carbon monoxide leaks.
Imagine the cost if one little, but very special, critter calls said mine home? Or even live in close proximity to the mine.
This would not be fighting against climate hippies, that just stick their hands down their pants to find any kind of sticky that can be thrown, but actual people who tend to do good practical deeds in preservation and they usually have the moral weight to wield.
From what I know, locally, it takes several years to just procure the land and permits to set up just handful of commercial wind turbines. And that’s even with some of the environutts on their side. I can only imagine the hysteria if someone would try and reopen an old mine for the use of, essentially but fancier but potentially more toxic, coal fired electricity production.

Grey Lensman
January 7, 2011 4:18 am

Rabe, you seem very confused to me. Link, you ask? Pesticide “fear mongering” Huh. You dont know what good organic soil is? Really. You not looked it up. Read the studies. Sham,e on you.
Nano molecular stimulation, of course you have no references, its new its ground breaking, its tested , it works and I am negotiating contracts for it. patents, humbug, they are used to steal or suppress new ideas.
The real world is competition and established food giants hate competition. They even make their own laws to suppress or criminalize it. Sadly very ably supported by people like yourself with your self hobbling viewpoint. Salve to order so to speak.
So, if you dont know what organic soil is or real food, you need to start a very long and fun learning curve.
Its only by being open minded and working from a solutions orientation that problems will be solved. If you start with “thats a problem” you have no change of solving it.
Notice also I put in no links or sneaky references. My work is there and when its done then is the time. Not now This is just for the readers to know what can be achieved. Not bleating.

Grey Lensman
January 7, 2011 4:19 am

Arthur brewed his beer in his greenhouse. great thinking, great results.

David
January 7, 2011 4:56 am

This is spooky – or just a case of Great Minds Think Alike..
In a recent response to a gentleman at our dear UK Department of Energy And Climate Change (yeah, I know) about how stoopid wind farms are, he of course came out with the mantra that ‘Carbon dioxide causes global warming’. I did in my response of course point out that this was cr*p, but anyway – let me get to the point.
Having visited websites dedicated to commercial tomato growing, and confirming what I’d heard that they inject carbon dioxide into their polytunnels to concentrations of 800-1000ppm, I suggested to the above gentleman that it might be a good idea to surround new ‘clean coal’ power stations with market gardens, so that instead of ‘burying’ the CO2 at vast expense using untried technology, it could be put to good use..!

Martin Brumby
January 7, 2011 4:56 am

Underground gassification is highly problematic. See the highly informative comment
Richard S Courtney says: January 7, 2011 at 1:39 am
I am also aware of instances where this was tried and it was exceptionally difficult (or impossible) to put the underground fire out. Which is why the Coal Authority in the UK has stated that they will not grant licences for underground gassification trials apart for blocks of coal under the sea.
Extraction of coal-bed methane looks a better bet.
But as far as the “greenhouses” idea is concerned, I am aware of one fairly big set up near Drax in Yorkshire. Whether they use CO2 from the furnaces I don’t know but they will certainly use some of the excess heat diverted from the cooling tower circuits.
There is also a fair sized operation near Lynemouth power station in Northumberland. In that case growing ragworms for fish farms and for bait. And also for medical research (using worm blood). But some which I believe are exported to the Far East! Don’t ask what they do with them – just think that they are apparently very nutricious!
http://www.seabait.com/about_us.html
But again, it is waste heat, not CO2 which is the attraction.
As CO2 isn’t a problem, spending trillions on “solutions” doesn’t seem a smart idea.

pwl
January 7, 2011 4:58 am

Ira Glickstein,
An excellent article Ira with many excellent ideas that I’ve been saying for about two years now… CO2 is GREEN PLANT FOOD. More Co2 = More Green Food on Planet Earth = More Food for Humans and other animals. Anti-CO2 is Anti-Life!
CO2 is a resource for growing food (and some other purposes). If one can make use of it when one is generating energy that just makes GREEN sense, in other senses of GREEN: green as in money and green as in environment!
It also makes sense to release that CO2 from it’s current Carbon Sequestration in Coal and other hydrocarbons and get it circulating once again to provide for more Carbon for Plants to Green The Earth! Burning Fossil Fuels is being Green! Sure, filter out the actual pollutants in the process but CO2 is Green Life and not just for plants but for humans too!
Thanks for getting the word out about the positive aspects of CO2 Ira.
All the best,
peter

Grey Lensman
January 7, 2011 5:11 am

I know that it is silly but it is a meme that i coined. Gaia screwed up, all the co2 was getting locked up. She experimented with low carbon grasses but still the co2 declined. The planet was heading for extinction. Oh what to do. So she invented humans, gave them the brains to unlock the carbon And low and behold the planet began to green again.
Silly, maybe but a lot of truths are.
Wrote that on one of my blogs, so may be able to track it and I have seen references to the idea recently.

slp
January 7, 2011 5:11 am

LazyTeenager says:

Ira spins
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These fuels create CO2 when burned. CO2 has been depicted as a poison, with James Hansen calling coal trains “death trains” and
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No it has NOT been depicted as a poison. It has been depicted as being dangerous by overheating, if too much is put into the atmosphere.
This is playing semantic tricks. Is a truck poisonous if you get run over by one?

Actually, carbon dioxide is constantly being depicted as a pollutant (which it is not), and pollutants are often considered to be poison.

January 7, 2011 5:14 am

Excellent article. Good follow-up to a previous WUWT article from 2008:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/08/surprise-earths-biosphere-is-booming-co2-the-cause

Noelmc
January 7, 2011 5:24 am

Using CO2 to increase crop yields is being used commercially in the UK.
Britsh Sugar have been piping its waste CO2 (and heat) from its Wissington factory to 11 hectares of green houses to help grow 70,000 tomatoes a year
http://www.greeneryuk.com/sustainability.php

Noelmc
January 7, 2011 5:30 am

sorry should have said 70 million tomatoes a year

January 7, 2011 5:42 am

Problem? 24 hour power production needed, plants sleep and exhale CO2 at night.
Do you adjust the power production to match growing needs? Or just vent to the open atmosphere, the excess CO2 at night?
THEY bitch about CO2 but want to produce massive amounts of CO a deadly toxin that accumulates with exposure time, to seep out into the still air surrounding the open coal mine on fire. You should look up the natural instances of death of livestock and people as a result of underground fires in old coal mines.

Pamela Gray
January 7, 2011 6:25 am

Organic is better quality? Once again I am shocked I say, gobsmacked, and flabbergasted (and being facetious) at the puny understanding of some related to veggie production’s history from wormy, bruised, no-shelf-life produce we once had access to compared to the firm, ripe, unblemished, long-lived veggies we have become used to. Those who think that organic is better are entirely without a clue as to how non-organic farming practices have resulted in drastic reductions in low quality produce on the shelf, including regional and local sourced produce, and in world hunger, even hunger out our own backdoor. We are a spoiled rotten populous who want our pretty veggies untouched by the sullied hands of non-organic farming.
While the fruits and veggies have gotten prettier, we are the ones who have become spoiled rotten.
I tell you what, if you want to go back to spoiled rotten fruits and veggies, you had better crawl through your great-grandma’s recipe file for ways to use bruised, wormy, rotten produce. Why? Because that was what much of real organic produce looked like.

Khwarizmi
January 7, 2011 7:07 am

Lazy teenager, you said:
…”biochar“…
That’s when you cull a forest, turn it into a pile of charcoal, then bury it in a pit in order to sequester some of the “carbon pollution” the forest accidentally incorporated into itself…
Correct?