UPDATE: From Daily Finance
Activists behind NY Post parody detained by police
The New York Post does not have a sense of humor about itself, it would seem.
Early this morning, some 2,000 activists affiliated with a group called The Yes Men handed out copies of a 32-page parody issue calling attention to climate change. But when volunteers tried to distribute copies outside the Post’s offices, they were detained by police and their papers were confiscated, says an eyewitness.
This won’t last long. I’m sure the New York Post won’t take kindly to ripping off their image and brand wholesale to promote this agenda.
The website is: http://nypost-se.com/ The “FAKE” label is mine so that this image doesn’t get confused with the real New York Post at http://www.nypost.com/
This fake version of the New York Post website seems to be part of the “New York Climate Week” effort, though it is hard to tell if it is connected or the work of a misguided person or sympathetic organization. Whomever it is behind it, it isn’t convincing anyone except for the galactically stupid.
As one attorney once said:
“Have you no sense of decency?”
– Joeseph Welch, June 9, 1954, during the McCarthy Senate hearings
The nypost-se.com domain name when looked up by WHOIS at Network Solutions does not appear to resolve to the New York Post, at 1211 Avenue of the Americas
New York, NY 10036-8790, but rather at another NYC address and a private individual.
So what’s next, fake celebrity endorsements?
By their own admission, the people who created the fake website apparently also distributed some newspapers they printed.
Although the 32-page New York Post is a fake, everything in it is 100% true, with all facts carefully checked by a team of editors and climate change experts.
It will be interesting to see if the usual suspects will join in to denounce this abuse of journalistic ethics or if they’ll simply stay silent and say to themselves “the end justifies the means”.
The real New York Climate Week website is here:
http://www.climateweeknyc.org/
hat tip to Tom Nelson:
http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2009/09/read-it-here-fake-ny-post-promotes.html
Paul Vaughan
Maybe they have borrowed a page from Ronald Reagan and intend to spend the U.S. into oblivion. Our current administration has not much sense of history and might fall for the ploy windmill, solar panel and CO2.
pwl Please read the site policy page under the masthead.
You are welcome to comment about anything else, but your discussion on this issue will not further clutter up the threads. You got snipped, get over it or get off the blog.
– Anthony
[Don’t feel too bad; I’ve been snipped, too. The “climate Nuremberg” thing is a VERY sore spot, and it’s a sword that cuts BOTH ways. ~ Evan]
Well, my little corner of the world seems to always rise (or in this case, lower) to the occasion and provide a bit of relativity to the “Earth is burning” Chicken Little mantra. Meacham, Oregon, one of the coldest spots in the US outside of Alaska, did it again. Record low temp last night that broke the one set in 1948. It dropped to 23 degrees, beating the previous record low of 25. Real fur is beginning to look pretty damned good to me right now.
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You’ve publicly asserted that I posted anonymously when it’s simply not true. I’ve been logged in all day and all my posts have been under my one tag “pwl”. You’ve mistaken someone else’s post for mine. As such I assert my right to defend myself in public. Please either post this comment, or delete your mistaken assertion and this comment, or print a retraction. I’m fine with any of those. Thanks.
I will go and read your site policy. Thanks again.
REPLY: “pwl” is in fact an anonymous handle. If you want to *not* be anonymous, use your real name. Understand this. When somebody says something using an anonymous handle (as you did) it is ME that has to answer for it when some alarmist hothead takes issue with the comment on some other blog. For example the other blog headline will read something like “Watts supports jailing scientists”. That would be a typical tactic. It would not read “pwl supports jailing scientists”. There’s no accountability to an anonymous person known only as “pwl”. They don’t care. I’m the target, I’m the one that takes the heat. So anonymous and off-policy comments made by unknown people, are less valuable and more likely to be snipped.
I’ve said this a 100 times here. If you believe in what you say, put your name to it. Take the same risk I do. – Anthony
“climate change expert”: “Mr. Pachauri”.
The deference of the MSM.
“Canada should put oil sands on hold: climate change expert
By Monique Beaudin, Canwest News ServiceSeptember 21, 2009 8:02 PM
MONTREAL — Canada should be doing much more to tackle climate change, and consider closing down the oilsands projects in northern Alberta, the head of an international scientific panel on climate change said Monday.
Canada should follow the European Union, which has pledged to cut its greenhouse gas emissions by 25% below 1990 levels by 2020, said Rajendra Pachauri, head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
In contrast, Canada’s plan is to only cut emissions by 20% below 2006 levels by 2020, a target that many scientific and environmental observers say is far too low.
Canada’s greenhouse gas emissions climbed 26% between 1990 and 2006.
“In the last couple of years, I’m afraid, Canada has not been seen as sitting at the table,” Mr. Pachauri said in an interview in Montreal on Monday. “I think Canada should be doing much more.”
Pachauri, who accepted the 2007 Nobel Prize along with former U.S. vice-president Al Gore for their work on climate change, pointed to Germany and Japan as examples of countries that have set aggressive emissions targets and embraced renewable energy.
Mr. Pachauri made the comments before heading to New York for Tuesday’s United Nations summit on climate change.
World leaders, including Prime Minister Stephen Harper, are meeting there for talks on an international treaty to cut worldwide greenhouse gas emissions.”
http://www.canada.com/business/fp/Canada+should+sands+hold+climate+change+expert/2017502/story.html
…-
“Specialist pleading
Frank Furedi | September 02, 2009
Article from: The Australian
ONE of the most influential contemporary cultural myths is that our era is characterised by the end of deference.
Commentators interpret the declining influence of traditional authority and institutions as proof that people have become less deferential and possess more critical attitudes than in the past. However, it is less frequently noted that deference to traditional authority has given way to the reverence of expertise.
Western culture assumes that a responsible individual will defer to the opinion of an expert. Politicians frequently remind us that their policies are “evidence based”, which usually means informed by expert advice. Experts have the last word on topics of public interest and increasingly on matters to do with people’s private affairs. We are advised to seek and heed to advice of a bewildering chorus of personal experts — parenting specialists, life coaches, relationship gurus, super-nannies and sex therapists, to name a few — who apparently possess the authority to tell us how to live our lives.
The exhortation to defer to experts is underpinned by the premise that their specialist knowledge entitles them to a higher moral status to the rest of us.”
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25979808-25132,00.html
Henry chance (14:46:14) : “Tomorrow Obama speaks to the UN. Is his chat going to be factual and truthful? Transparent?”
The rest of the world can of course see this fake NYP, so it will be yet another embarrassment for the U.S., and the West in general. We’ll be seen as place where anarchists can do whatever they want. So if Obama speaks anything but the facts…
Okay, so Obama will embarrass us. That’s goes without saying. My face is already red, in anticipation. So I hope the Post takes immediate and decisive action. At least then we won’t have to be AS embarrassed if the Post succeeds in prosecuting the misfits!
Quoting MikeN (15:49:44) :
“Have you no decency left?”
That line was uttered after McCarthy made a true statement.
He was being mocked and asked if he could name any Communists in the government. He responded by identifying one on the questioner’s committee, who had been let go for his Communist ties, and this was reported by the New York Times.
Commenting:
I don’t remember it that way.
As I recall, it was after a woman was questioned (by McCarthy – hisseff) as a “communist” and she just blurted out that she was not now nor had ever been a member of the Commies or any other associated group and we find out that there are 8 people with her name in the local phone book.
When “At long last, have you no decency, sir?” was uttered, McCarthy remembered a previous engagement and packed up with haste and left the scene.
But, you figure I remembered it wrong, huh?
Re: TerryBixler (18:35:45)
You may have something there. I just heard a very serious speech from our leader of the opposition. Based on his messaging and the confidence with which he is projecting himself, I would not be surprised at all to learn later that he is in on an international power-play of grand scale. Powerful nations like to use Canada as a(n apparent) rational voice that is singing in harmony. This time it looks like powers other than USA are pulling the puppet-strings, but even that appearance might be deception. There is an ominous air of unstoppable change brewing. This might not go down well with Canadians who fear profoundly that their livelihoods will be jeopardized – or worse – by the carbon agenda, particularly since we are a spread-out, cold, northern nation.
Whichever way this goes, I don’t predict any (net) benefit for the environment.
The best part, the servers out of Seattle WA via France
204.13.164.45
Name Server:PRIMARY.RISEUP.NET
Name Server:SECONDARY.RISEUP.NET
Tech Organization:GANDI SARL
Tech Street1:15 place de la Nation
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maz2 (18:51:49) : (On Canada’s emissions)
Yeah… Canada only has a population of about 34 million, with a population density of 8 per square mile. Compare that to Europe’s near 500 million, at a density of almost 300 per sq mile… So what would that extra 5% “penance” on Canada’s part add up to?
As far as I can tell, only thing Canada has to gain from that cut is the approval of the EU authoritarianism, approval of it’s self-appointed officials that are “experts” in everything. Weigh that versus rising oil prices, versus the EU’s abilities to do nothing more than urge on like a nanny, versus a cooling earth…
I hope we can soon say “Don’t play tug of war with Canada!”. You know, kind of like “don’t mess with Texas!” : )
Paul Vaughan (17:29:56) :
Something’s up in Canada and I suspect that India and particularly the UK & China are involved. For the past 3 or 4 years [at least] CTV has been a steadfastly right-wing news agency (I know Albertans will disagree), but maybe CTV senses the tide is about to turn on the (minority government) Conservatives?
“China leaps ahead of U.S. in climate change battle”
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090921/un_china_090921/20090921?hub=SciTech
A very strange article. We live in very strange times. There’s no way to predict where this is going. I see the potential for a major public backlash. Interesting politics — lots of opportunity for those who can adapt-with-the-flow as events unfold.
Paul, I agree.
This is a strange article.
In essence it describes the “if you jump, I jump” attitude and pure spin from the Brits and Barosso but I still doubt if India and China will sign up to a Co2 reduction.
The big question how to deal with the developing nations however was not addressed an so far I know here lies a really big problem.
Expect Obama to make a new attempt to push for the Climate Bill in October.
If the US does not join in there will be no serious treaty.
WestHouston, this is going off topic, but yea you are off in your memory. It’s OK, I got it wrong too. It was McCarthy’s assistant who was being mocked and asked all these questions, and to bring it to the Committee’s attention whenever he finds out about any Communists, and then McCarthy interrupted.
Gary Hladik (18:32:29) :
Ahhhh, I remember now.
Climate Change is driven by population growth!
The next objective of the UN is to reduce the number of people:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.506b7104e85d35fc4f8355e566ab5fad.261&show_article=1
If you don’t give us money, millions will die. Yet another extortion by the UN.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/20/swine-flu-costs-un-report
Meh. That’s just comedy. The truth seems to be winning, or the piece wouldn’t be funny. Give that guy a pass, imo.
This effort to fake the NY post must have cost someone a few coins. Wonder whom.
In my wanderings thru the net I am finding the AGW crowd is loosing numbers and becoming less lucid. Everyone wants to claim that the “experts” are in agreement that the world is coming to an end.
Now I always listen to “experts” especially if I’m paying, but then I remind myself that often, “expert” is a drip under pressure.
Instead of stealing someone else’s logo, why couldn’t they do it like the Onion? An Onion classic: click
Or the Eco-Enquirer: click
Jay,
“Does anyone know why the Arctic temperature just shot up so much?”
Firstly, I don’t know. But if you look at any previous years data of record you can see that abrupt changes of that direction and magnitude are absolutely normal and occur regularly during this time of year.
J2
Douglas DC (15:40:32) and evanmjones (17:41:09) raised the question of copyright. The NY Post header is probably a service mark and would not come under copyright laws. There may be a patent/trademark action. If the stories did not copy content from the NY Post, there is no copyright issue. If the typography and layout are emulated tightly, the copyright issue may lie there. If the Post did bring a claim against The Yes Men might try to claim parody. Parody is a broadly interpreted and staunchly defended form of free speech. However, I do not believe this stunt can rise to the level of parody. At its core, the stunt was ethically reprehensible.
MikeN (15:49:44) :
JC (17:40:12) :
Andrew M (18:17:06) :
WestHoustonGeo (19:00:30) :
You can see the moment in history on video. The ‘decency’ quote comes in part 2. This moment, of course, won’t tell the whole story of the McCarthy era.
McCarthy vs. Welch: “Have you no decency?” (Part 1 of 2)
Must watch:
Looks like the cover of a science fiction…ERRR….fantasy novel!
Heck I’d probably read it! What they’re missing is an asteroid hitting the earth. That would be the icing on the cake there.
Where’s Steven Spielberg?
From the headlining ‘We’re Screwed’ article…
“Climate change caused by human-created greenhouse gases is threatening the health, livelihood, and security of New Yorkers- especially those who take the subway to work.”
Especially?
Well, I guess I won’t worry so much until climate change begins threatening the health, livelihood, and security of Melbournians, especially those sitting at home surfing the internet.
Those poor New Yorkers! 😉