Gore / Nazis – two words I thought I’d never see together, and never wanted to. Yet here it is in a story in the Times Online. Surprisingly, Hollywood has been exploiting this linkage for years. I suppose the appearance of a proof of Godwins Law was inevitable, given how long the global warming discussion and Gore have gone on.
Does anyone else besides me get the impression that Al Gore is really reaching now? At the end of this post, Mr. Gore listed only two possible future questions, I’m sure our readers can fill in some of the missing ones. – Anthony
Addendum: I wonder, did Gore get paid for this speaking engagement “sponsored by The Times” and if so, is The Times responsible for creating this “news” where there would be none otherwise? – Anthony
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE:
The Times : before and after – click for larger images – thanks to Kate for the 3rd one
Apparently reacting to criticism, The Times has changed the title of the article to remove the word Nazi, and the title takes an entirely different meaning. See the before and after screencaps above. (thanks to Bishop Hill) There is no mention of why. But they forgot to change the base HTML which still has the original title.
At right is The Times story headline now and the HTML source of the page showing the original title intact. Click thumbnails.
Here below is my original link to the story, unchanged:
Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis
Hey the British Royal Family regularly gets caught dressing up as or talking to Nazis. At least this is just talking about it.
Well big Al has a lot of Gorl to invoke Sir Winston Churchill; a man whose shoes AlGORE is unfit to shine, let alone fill. And what a pansy Vee for Victory that is Al, better stick to flash cards.
When Churchill finally stood up to “those folks”, they had already killed hundreds of thousands, on their way to many millions; mostly civilians.
How many will you be responsible for Al, when the food runs out ? Rachel Carson killed millions by promoting the silly ban on DDT; and her rabid book continues to kill to this day; but AL is working on “the final solution” to the world’s population problem.
Just talk to some Canadian farmers in Saskatchewan Al, about how global warming is increasing their wheat yields this year; you will become the Guy Fawkes of the 21st Century AL, and take your place alongside history’s other megalomaniacs; just my humble opinion of course.
Someday people around the world will know what Tennesseans have known for a long time…that Al Gore is a fraud.
P.S. If he had carried his own state in 2000, he would have been President and would not have had to worry about Florida…he even lost his old congressional district!
As someone who has actually investigated the Holocaust for myself and visited a concentration camp, I cannot really express my revulsion clearly enough against anyone who seeks to compare climate change with the battle against Nazism. It appears that some alarmists have no shame.
Many millions of people, mainly Jews and Poles, were wantonly and systematically slaughtered at the behest of a madman by a first-world country unhinged by economic collapse. If their deaths had any meaning at all, it was certainly not to dignify the appalling rhetoric of shameless hucksters like Al Gore in order to try to win an argument over matters which are clearly disputable.
I actually liked Al Gore at one time. I certainly preferred him to George W Bush in 2000. I still don’t rate GWB but neither do I rate Al Gore any more.
My perception is that those who rush to make arguments comparing some scientific concept to fighting Hitler have never seen a concentration camp, never seen the evidence of slaughter with their own eyes, never been haunted by the pictures made by 7, 8, 9, 10 year old children who were shortly afterwards sent to Auschwitz and gassed.
Every time this sort of extreme rhetoric is employed to try to win an argument, I find it difficult to speak, difficult to express my revulsion or the inner conflict that I feel. It is the argument of people who have lost the argument and lost all perspective about what is important.
I may go quiet for a while. I’m sorry.
“”” John Edmondson (14:58:06) :
To quote Winston Churchill
“Never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few”
Maybe when AGW theory has been defeated we will remember the few who saved us from the consequences.
This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning”.
Winston Churchill after Rommel’s defeat at El Alamein. “””
A bit of a mixed metaphor there John. That first line there about the few, was uttered after the Battle of Britain, referring to the few Hurricane, and fewer Spitfire RAF pilots (from all countries) who fought and won the Battle of Britain in the skies over the British Isles, and the Channel. The El Alamein Victory came later.
Ron de Haan (13:31:13).
Now Caruba don’t mention the cost of WWII, does he?
When I say that that WWII, which laid Europe in ruins, is a decent comparison to the harm that an American and European cap and trade (a.k.a. emission trade scheme) it’s funny that someone thinks that comparison isn’t strong enough…
I think that comparison is how Gore’s trying to scare us (I remember he uses that comparison briefly in his movie too), but I didn’t say that it’s exactly what the cost will be. WWII costed about 1 trillion dollar per year…
http://upanizza.blogspot.com/2008/09/cost-of-war.html
…and the EPA may cost 7 trillion (or 2 trillion) dollars until 2020…
http://www.heritage.org/Press/NewsReleases/nr041709a.cfm
…thus less than 1 trillion dollars a year.
But I don’t know if these values can be compared (are they fully normalized?). Copenhagen may produce at least twice that cost for the world, or? (I don’t know, but I think that Nicholas Sterns suggests a few percent of the worlds GDP, where a triggered economic crisis I guess will make it worse.)
A scary thing is also that the carbon focus implies regulation on everything. A text about that by Robert Brinsmead (formerly active in a church, but now obviously evolutionist) :
http://www.tech-know.eu/uploads/THE_VINDICATION_OF_CARBON.pdf
I think this also may lead to a serious society control issue. People (and politicians) have to understand that CO2 is something we breath! They have to be informed that CO2 isn’t stay in the atmosphere very long…
http://folk.uio.no/tomvs/esef/ESEF3VO2.htm
…which is another thing IPCC lies about, etc etc.
The absurd thing is that a carbon cap is completely unnecessary, and it’s a shame that politicians dosn’t responsibly get information on this issue. the propaganda says 97% of the scientists belive in an AGW catastrophy. But Doran and Kendall Zimmerman’s study has a poll asking if humans can have anym even extremely small effect on climate. (I answer yes too!) Bray and von Storch’s study says almost 50% of climate scientist does not think humans is mostly to blame for recent climate change.
But politicians don’t seem to listen to this. It’s easy to follow dogma, or what? We have to tell them again and again.
Gore probably want to be rich from emission trade, which is an incentive for him. But it’s a scam that he uses scare propaganda and the WWII comparison to drive his case forward.
“No senior British politician had taken up his invitation to address a conference attended by the world’s top climate scientists, senior business leaders and the presidents of the Maldives and Rwanda.”
Why is that Alberto ?
Can it be that you are just too extreme ?
Do you know the reason why Smith is the FORMER chief scientist ?
Can it be that he gave some misleading advice ?
Could this misleading advice amount to Fraud
under the 2006 UK Statute Law ?
Invoking the Dead Spirit of British Uber Hero, Winston Churchill ?
Oh Dear, desperate stuff. This will turn the British right off you.
Go away Albert Gore, not wanted on voyage.
@ur momisugly John A (17:03:43)
Powerful.
Never. Never, go quiet.
So what do your kids go dressed as, for Halloween; the Easter bunny and the Tooth Fairy?
It seems that at least one of the royal Princes, did serve in military service; despite having a bullseye painted on his back.
But I do agree it is not a wise choice for a fancy dress party.
Gore and Nazis,
NOAA and Volvo!
Read all about corporatism (facism) all collaborating to push the climate treaty through our noses. This is change we did not ask for.
Tomorrow I will scrap my Volvo.
Jul 07, 2009
The Unwisdom of Solomon (and NOAA and Volvo)
“Note: NOAA in a press release announced: The 2009 Volvo Environmental Prize Foundation has named NOAA Senior Scientist Susan Solomon as the recipient of its 2009 environmental prize. The Volvo Environment Prize is awarded for “Outstanding innovations or scientific discoveries which in broad terms fall within the environmental field.” “This prestigious award recognizes and honors Dr. Solomon’s distinguished work in the Antarctic as well as her exemplary leadership during the last Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment,” said Richard W. SPINrad, NOAA assistant administrator for oceanic and atmospheric research”.
Read the rest of this remarkable posting at http://www.icecap.us
“”” Mark N (16:56:55) :
Hey the British Royal Family regularly gets caught dressing up as or talking to Nazis. At least this is just talking about it. “””
This belonga above that up there !
Even if the doubts expressed here make it to enough Senators to block C&T, the EPA will deliver what Congress does not.
algore will win this round. We may get another chance in 2010. Undoing a bad deed is much harder when the deed is the goal of POTUS.
If it cools off a bit more (Gray says it will) the AGW’s can claim success. Which will be much harder to overturn.
I do not see a happy ending.
With the AGWers working on “the final solution” with their GCMs, Gore’s remark is supremely ironic.
My favorite Sir Winston Churchill putdown involves his exchange with GBS; George Bernard Shaw.
It seems that Shaw sent two tickets to Churchill for the opening night of his new play, with a note that read; “My dear Winston, here are some tickets to the opening night of my new play; please do come, and bring a friend; if you have one !”
Churchill returned the tickets with his note; “Dear George, I am unable to attend the opening night of your new play; please send me two tickets to the second night; if there is one!”
Vatt can ve say? Ve haff been discoffered! Und now… ve haff vays of makingk does namby-pamby global-varming people to see things our vay.
geo (12:45:29): Does Gore really need to be pummelled here, or the Times?
The answer is, yes.
wattsupwiththat (17:06:17) I saw that silly article. I learned in biology that smaller-in-size mammals of the same species lose less body heat, thus people in northern climes tend to be shorter than those at low lattitudes. Smaller sheep=cooling.
This is hilarious:
That’s all, folks!
Wow we went from holocaust deniers to nazis huh?
Well I would have Mr Gore know that my grandfather left Germany before Hitler gained total control because he saw the signs of the oncoming trouble. He became and American Citizen to avoid the Nazis and I for one think Al Gore is a (snip!)
Guess what Mr Gore. We are going to fight you tooth and nail. We are going to win! That is American spirit sir. No matter what spin you try to put on it. It is the reality. Soon you will be in jail along side madoff and Enron execs. disgraced and a mockery. It will serve you right.
Today, the world. Tomorrow, the Lower Troposphere.
Two questions that ALGORE needs to answer:
Why is his carbon footprint so large when he advocates others to reduce theirs?
How much money will he make from trading carbon credits?
This man is out to become the world’s first trillionaire on the backs of the people. How can he be stopped?
Hansen and Gore have big, big plans!
See this rare video of Gore in Hansen’s lab….Scheming!
stops near the end
… did someone say he won the Nobull Prize?
PHIL GREEN, the former boss of the collapsed finance empire Babcock & Brown, has been ousted from the board of the SCG Trust, replaced by the former Australian cricket captain Steve Waugh.
a 2 gigawatt wind farm energy scam imploded. This sucks and blows. They have gobbled hundreds of millions in subsidies. There are billions of dollars in lost moneys invested in wind energy. all on a fabricated fear of warming. The structures cost millions, they are slow to be built and they have high maintenance problems the first year. Green jobs of course but the dark back side of this is scam and insolvency.
Big air is giving a lot of blow back.
Al Gore is positioning himself to be the global leader in the fight against climate change. With every move he makes, he is getting closer to being the head of whatever climate dictatorship is being built.
My Prediction….
The UN creates a special organization to battle climate change as soon as this G8 thing is over. Al gore is appointed head of this organization, and becomes the single most powerful man in the world. New global legislation is passed to all countries. Al Gore is hailed by all MSM as our savior….. Then our ice age hits and all hell breaks loose.
Oh Ya….. Dear Al, I fart in your general direction.