Gore / Nazis – two words I thought I’d never see together, and never wanted to. Yet here it is in a story in the Times Online. Surprisingly, Hollywood has been exploiting this linkage for years. I suppose the appearance of a proof of Godwins Law was inevitable, given how long the global warming discussion and Gore have gone on.
Does anyone else besides me get the impression that Al Gore is really reaching now? At the end of this post, Mr. Gore listed only two possible future questions, I’m sure our readers can fill in some of the missing ones. – Anthony
Addendum: I wonder, did Gore get paid for this speaking engagement “sponsored by The Times” and if so, is The Times responsible for creating this “news” where there would be none otherwise? – Anthony
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE:
The Times : before and after – click for larger images – thanks to Kate for the 3rd one
Apparently reacting to criticism, The Times has changed the title of the article to remove the word Nazi, and the title takes an entirely different meaning. See the before and after screencaps above. (thanks to Bishop Hill) There is no mention of why. But they forgot to change the base HTML which still has the original title.
At right is The Times story headline now and the HTML source of the page showing the original title intact. Click thumbnails.
Here below is my original link to the story, unchanged:
Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis
ralph ellis.. Then, who is he who disagrees with a Greenie Liberal? a Nasty?
Magnus (11:32:44) :
Probably this will be as costly as WWII, so it isn’t surpricing that Gore make this comparison. This is the logical continuation of this insanity, but isn’t he realize that a climate realist then can be regarderd as immoral as a nazi?
A bit offtopic: A talk show interview with prof Lindzen, where he mention his problem recently as eine Denier to get a rug appraiser:
http://audio.wrko.com/m/audio/24111309/richard-lindzen-global-warming-denier.htm
An oriental rug site mentions this important event:
http://www.rugrag.com/post/Burnt-Rug-Appraiser.aspx
It’s good to see that the awareness about slandering of realists penetrates through our rug society. First they come to deny our burned rugs…
Politicians have to be a bit brave now and stop this CO2 mania!
Magnus,
This will be much more costly than WWII
Alan Caruba made a nice graph and an article about the costs aspect.
It is mind boggling.
http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/2009/05/die-global-warming-die.html
i saw the movie with al gore and the first i thought was, he is like a nazi.
why?
he knewed very well, that this kind of propaganda he did, would be very likely sawn by that what it is. It is the same material, all nazis or other regimes like that used and use today.
gore is not stupid, he was thinking one step forward, he claims all sceptics are like nazis. look at vazlav claus, the president of the chech republik and head of the EU governance at time. he says, that has nothing to do with climate science.
ok, atnony, its necessery and usefull that you bring up this stuff, thank you!
It will either be ’what were you thinking, didn’t you see the North Pole melting before your eyes, didn’t you hear what the scientists were saying?’ Or they will ask ’how is it you were able to find the moral courage to solve the crisis which so many said couldn’t be solved?’.”
– I was thinking for myself, what were you doing?
– I watched the satellite data, the webcam at the North Pole, 3 dummies in the Arctic, Cyrosphere today and talked to people who visit the Arctic. It wasn’t melting.
– I heard what the scientists were saying since the mid 60’s. I watched as the climate changed twice. One agenda failed and off it went to another one.
– What crisis? The abandonment of good sense and things that were working like Superfund cleanups. The destruction of our forest sustainablity by clear cutting followed by total shutdown giving way to dangerous overgrowth. The constant blowing of economic bubbles and the displacement of wealth for export by the few at the expense of the many. We cleaned up our air radically but the worst offenders moved thier marbles overseas where human life and the environment are cheap. AGW agenda addresses none of the above. Was that the best you could do, Mr. Gore?
More on the black ribbon campaign:
http://houstontps.org/?p=722
Via Al Gore Lied, they even have the black ribbon logo ready for publishing on the web.
Invoke the “spirit” of churchill. Churchhill is dead. So i agree a dead Spirit would fit.
Churchill didn’t die of gang green.
Here you are from Safari 4 history cache
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9336/thumbnazi.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/4387/fullnazi.jpg
THANKS – GOT IT, Bishop Hill beat you to it – Anthony
More protests:
http://planetgore.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YzhlZTEzMThlNDgxMzAyYjk1MDkyNGRiZmI1MDQ5M2E=
A clever approach from Inhofe:
http://greenhellblog.com/2009/07/07/inhofe-to-boxer-hold-hearings-on-actual-bill/
Bishop Hill (13:29:51),
Thanks for that interesting link.
Also, the time is ripe for a book on Caspar Amman, Michael Mann, and the gaming of the climate peer review process. It would be a ‘hot’ seller!
Why should Al Gore make all the money on the climate change scam?
It still surprises me how often the authoritarian wanna-bes directly or indirectly invoke the Nazis to characterize their opponents. You would think they’d have figured out by now, how accurate a ‘tell’ it is — it points just the opposite direction they think it does. And here’s another infallible ‘tell’: Anybody who won’t debate in an honest forum is a fraud.
I wonder what happens to Gore’s contracts with his investors if he can’t pull off the heist? Although not normally one to wish ill upon others, I confess I’d feel a certain Schadenfreude at seeing him turfed out of that ridiculous barn of his.
The latest from WSJ
http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/07/07/climate-fight-the-senate-tackles-global-warming-bill/
No fireworks unfortunately.
Oops, I see Anthony has already updated the Times “Nazi” headline article.
Popama will decide earth’s temperature:
http://minnesotansforglobalwarming.com/m4gw/2009/07/obama-to-determine-global-temperature.html
Why not to Cap…ture & Trade…AG?
Spam at 11.18 calling itself “Charlie”
Mr Gore is indeed quite right to invoke Churchill in “fighting” the climate war. According to the “greatest Briton” himself,
“One day President Roosevelt told me that he was asking publicly for suggestions about what the war should be called. I said at once ‘The Unnecessary War’.”
WWII is unnecessary. So is the “fight” against climate change.
Did AL Gore actually use the word ‘Nazi’?
REPLY: It is in the original Times article which you can see in Google cache here. He may have used it in the interview, or he may have been quoted out of context.
http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6658672.ece?FORM=ZZNR4
What is clear though that The Times went into damage control quickly. – A
I can just see it…
“We shall fight them on the beaches…
We shall fight them on the seas and oceans…
We shall never surrender.”
What a joke. [snip]
Duck n cover AL Here come the logic bombs.
Would not Mr Gore be more comparable to Goebbels. Was not Goebbels the master of propaganda. Perhaps future generations will bracket “An Inconvenient Truth” with Leni Riefenstahls “Triumph of the Will”.
40 Coats
Trouble is algore is playing the part of the NAZIS.
Anthony, you could also update the code changes…
Before:
Code to display title of the HTML page –>
title> Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis – Times Online /title>
meta name=”Description” content=”
Al Gore today compared the battle against climate change with the struggle
against the Nazis.”
After:
as your picture up there…
AG is nuts—ie
I think, realistically, that we had all better understand that this entire business, especially the upcoming Copenhagen meeting, has a great deal of momentum ( and political power ) behind it. I hope, like many others, that this scam dies.
Copenhagen is a rigged game, and to be honest I think the outcome will be an absolute disaster for the US economy and the world in general. So much so, that in the interest of self preservation, I intend to plan my investments for the near term accordingly. 20% in green crap, and the rest in arms manufacturers and basic commodities.
It looks to me that he did not liken climate change/AGW to the battle with the Nazis but that political will was needed to fight both the second world war and climate change/AGW. That is a big difference imo.
REPLY: No argument about there being a difference. The question remains however. How did the word NAZI get used in The Times article? Was it an off-the cuff remark by Gore? Was it part of an interview answer, or the reporter’s take on it? Or, did Gore originally use it in the speech and it has been edited from the video The Times now presents?
It is difficult to determine, and since The Time crossed a journalist line by sponsoring an event that they then write about, followed by a fast paced switheroo of their headline, we will probably never get the true story. The Times credibility is at question. – A