Gore and Nazis

Gore / Nazis – two words I thought I’d never see together, and never wanted to. Yet here it is in a story in the Times Online. Surprisingly, Hollywood has been exploiting this linkage for years. I suppose the appearance of a proof of Godwins Law was inevitable, given how long the global warming discussion and Gore have gone on.

Does anyone else besides me get the impression that Al Gore is really reaching now? At the end of this post, Mr. Gore listed only two possible future questions, I’m sure our readers can fill in some of the missing ones. – Anthony

Addendum: I wonder, did Gore get paid for this speaking engagement “sponsored by The Times” and if so, is The Times responsible for creating this “news” where there would be none otherwise?  – Anthony

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE:

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The Times : before and after – click for larger images – thanks to Kate for the 3rd one

Apparently reacting to criticism, The Times has changed the title of the article to remove the word Nazi, and the title takes an entirely different meaning. See the before and after screencaps above. (thanks to Bishop Hill) There is no mention of why. But they forgot to change the base HTML which still has the original title.Times_Gore-Nazi-html-source

At right  is The Times story headline now and the HTML source of the page showing the original title intact. Click thumbnails.

Here below is my original link to the story, unchanged:

Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis

Al Gore at The Times World Forum On Enterprise & The Environment at Keble College, Oxford

by:  Ben Webster, Environment Editor and Robin Pagnamenta, Energy Editor

Al Gore today compared the battle against climate change with the struggle against the Nazis.The former US Vice President said the world lacked the political will to act and invoked the spirit of Winston Churchill by encouraging leaders to unite their nations to fight climate change.

He also accused politicians around the world of exploiting ignorance about the dangers of global warming to avoid difficult decisions.

Speaking in Oxford at the Smith School World Forum on Enterprise and the Environment, sponsored by The Times, Mr Gore said: “Winston Churchill aroused this nation in heroic fashion to save civilisation in World War II.”

He added: “We have everything we need except political will but political will is a renewable resource.”

Mr Gore admitted that it was difficult to persuade the public that the threat from climate change was as urgent as the threat from Nazi Germany.

“The level of awareness and concern among populations has not crossed the threshold where political leaders feel that they must change.

“The only way politicians will act is if awareness raises to a level to make them feel that it’s a necessity.”

Mr Gore, who brought the issues around climate change to a mass audience with the 2006 documentary An Inconvenient Truth, said the great hope for the future lay in a high level of environmental awareness among young people.

He said sceptics who refused to believe dramatic cuts in carbon emissions could be delivered should consider the example of the young scientists in the NASA team which put a man on the moon on 1969.

“The average age of scientists in the space centre control room was 26, which means they were 18 when they heard President Kennedy say he wanted to put a man on the moon in 10 years. Neil Armstrong did it eight years and two months later.”

He said future generations would put one of two questions to today’s adults.

“It will either be ’what were you thinking, didn’t you see the North Pole melting before your eyes, didn’t you hear what the scientists were saying?’ Or they will ask ’how is it you were able to find the moral courage to solve the crisis which so many said couldn’t be solved?’.”

Read the rest of the article here at the Times

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I had to take the word “Nazi” out of our spam filter, since so many comments were getting caught by it.

I had never ever, wanted to have Nazism be a discussion on this blog, and had deleted such references in the past so as to not incite further. But when Gore makes it headline news, what choice do I have?

– Anthony

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July 7, 2009 9:02 am

I sense the AGW folks are getting desparate because of their lack of traction. Paul Krugman’s recent column in the NYTimes [http://iamyouasheisme.wordpress.com/2009/06/29/krugman_deep_end/] is an example…and I am a FAN of Krug’s!
This is an interesting moment for students of democracy and policy.

Ron de Haan
July 7, 2009 9:02 am

HOW LOW CAN YOU GO?
Probably by coincident Lubos Motl published an article about the refused polar bear scientists making a graphic link to the NAZI Symbol, the Swastika.
I really like this story and it is a shame that it had to be written.
http://motls.blogspot.com/2009/07/polar-bear-experts-face-extinction.html

July 7, 2009 9:04 am

Just ask this of Mr. Gore every time:
Al, you’ve enriched yourself on climate change. Why should we believe anything you say?
Oh yeah, that’s right. He doesn’t take questions.

Robert
July 7, 2009 9:05 am

So I guess that would make Al Gore the Swiss, who also profited mightily.

Ian W
July 7, 2009 9:10 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
So Gore is so desperate that he’s stooping to the level of a 12-year-old in a chat room argument. I guess [hope] the warmists really are circling the wagons.

fredlightfoot
July 7, 2009 9:10 am

Snip, Snip, Snip, and more Snip, Snip, Snip,
and finally SNIP!!!!!!!!!

D. King
July 7, 2009 9:11 am

Nazi climate change!
Zis is terrible, ve must stop it at all cost.
You vill use CFL light bulbs! You vill unplug
your T.V.s. You vill not eat zee methsane farting
meat. Oh yeah, I blame za Jews; now pass me
two strudels.

Rick, michigan
July 7, 2009 9:13 am

Mr. Gore, you are no Winston Churchill.

chip
July 7, 2009 9:14 am

Takes one to know one. His greenshirts are now organizing in England

Ron de Haan
July 7, 2009 9:14 am

Three remarks to the subject:
1. Gore and Co. will go in extremes to get the climate legislation in place.
2. They are losing the arguments, otherwise the NAZI link would not be used.
3. The USA has been blessed that this hypocrite lost the Presidential elections.
Unfortunately with Obama we have run out of luck.

Ron de Haan
July 7, 2009 9:16 am

Robert (09:05:12) :
So I guess that would make Al Gore the Swiss, who also profited mightily.
Or the Swede for that matter.

Geo
July 7, 2009 9:19 am

If he is equating the fight of CO2 emmissions to nazis, then he does realize, doesn’t he, that with his big energy hog of a house, that he is “putting a few folks in at a time in a gas chamber” himself???
Anthony, IMO, you should never show Gore’s face again on your blog….he is an attention whore….and that’s it!! [snip]

Rick K
July 7, 2009 9:19 am

I hope I’m not the only one who rolled their eyes when I read this! Desperation, thy name is al gore!

noaaprogrammer
July 7, 2009 9:19 am

“Mr Gore admitted that it was difficult to persuade the public that the threat from climate change was as urgent as the threat from Nazi Germany.” It was actually the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor that plunged the U.S. into WWII. So sticking to his flawed analogy here, it won’t be global warming that will persuade us to fight climate change. It will be something else – probably global cooling.

oakgeo
July 7, 2009 9:21 am

Its not just Gore. This kind of rhetoric has been around for years. If a skeptic cannot be portrayed as stupid or misinformed, then evil will do nicely. Its like a left-wing version of McCarthyism.

July 7, 2009 9:21 am

Yes, desperate pronouncements from a desperate leader. I guess he already senses the change in public attitude, that more people are becoming more “skeptic”. What will happen now to the several billion dollars business he put up based on carbon cap and trade, carbon sequestration and credits, etc., if more people and more government leaders will not listen to him and the warmers?

John B
July 7, 2009 9:23 am

I believe standard internet protocol states that the first person to refer to another as a Nazi has lost the argument. Having said that, one might be tempted to compare Gore to Hitler; both failed in the political arena at one point or another, both were loved or hated by large groups of people, both embraced bad science and sought to carry their horrific conclusions forward with implemented policy. Also you never saw Hitler and Al Gore at the same time… might they be the same person? Just pointing out how this sort of comparison has no valid point in a rational discussion. VP Gore should be silenced to join other former leaders such as Al Barkley, Spiro Agnew and Walter Mondale, such is his importance.

timetochooseagain
July 7, 2009 9:24 am

“The former US Vice President said the world lacked the political will to act and invoked the spirit of Winston Churchill by encouraging leaders to unite their nations to fight climate change.”
As a Churchillian, I find this incredibly offensive. Mister former veep, Winston would sock you if he could.
By the way, Gore has previously referred to his critics as “digital brownshirts”, so this is hardly surprising.

P Walker
July 7, 2009 9:37 am

It would sreve Mr. Gore well to bone up on what the Nazis (National Socialists) actually did . Has he read through the freedom depriving minutiae in the C&T bill ? How far are we from green-shirted energy police in this country ? I’ll end this rant before I get started .

July 7, 2009 9:37 am

Right war, wrong threatre: I will once again use the analogy of Gore and friends resorting to Kamikaze attacks. It’s their only hope in the face of the Truth.
The desperation of the Alarmists is no longer a rush to “save the planet”. It is a rush to pass their taxes and regulation before the earth gets any cooler.

page48
July 7, 2009 9:37 am

“He also accused politicians around the world of exploiting ignorance about the dangers of global warming…..”
If that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black I just don’t know what is!

timetochooseagain
July 7, 2009 9:38 am

Another point-Gore is making money off of promoting AGW-Churchill not only didn’t profit from from warning of the Nazi’s, he was ostracized by the Tories.

Mike Bryant
July 7, 2009 9:39 am

Future generations will put one of two questions to today’s adults.
“It will either be “How did you find the courage to fight against those who would bring poverty to the earth?” Or they will ask “Please, sir, may I have anther bowl of gruel??

Alan the Brit
July 7, 2009 9:42 am

Knowing a little bit about British history & WWII, I have a suspicion that Winston Churchill would have had this lunatic put up against the nearest available wall, & shot! After all, the great dictator Adolf Hilter was also once described as confident, charming, intelligent, witty, exuding enthusiasm, & quite quite MAD! After all AH believed in a repressive & authoritarian government of excesses, whereas WC believed in the absolute opposite so a rather strange choice of persona for AG to invoke in the name of such a regime. Brown Shirts, Black Shirts, Green Shirts, they all carry out their duties with smiles on their faces & just follow orders, it’s all the same to me! Now then, as I have come in from the exercise yard after my daily 15 minutes compulsory walk around it, as I sit here typing from the only available computer in the camp, (I get 10 minutes a month) it’s rather old & slow, we’re not allowed anything too modern, & I am watched constantly, I am sentenced to 5 years reconditioning until I join Group Think, the beatings aren’t too bad but the daily bread & water is atrocious (& my cell mate has gone missing, apparently he has been “rehabilitated”), what colour shirt will your thought police wear I wonder?

Mike from Canmore
July 7, 2009 9:47 am

He is so worried about his ass. If the Senate shoots down the Climate Action bill, it puts a serious road bump in the time frame for Kleiner Perkins green investments. I wonder if he’ll “resign” from the board if it does. They can’t be justified without legislative help and additional subsidies. The “World will End” risk has an Net Present Value of Zero.

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