Gore / Nazis – two words I thought I’d never see together, and never wanted to. Yet here it is in a story in the Times Online. Surprisingly, Hollywood has been exploiting this linkage for years. I suppose the appearance of a proof of Godwins Law was inevitable, given how long the global warming discussion and Gore have gone on.
Does anyone else besides me get the impression that Al Gore is really reaching now? At the end of this post, Mr. Gore listed only two possible future questions, I’m sure our readers can fill in some of the missing ones. – Anthony
Addendum: I wonder, did Gore get paid for this speaking engagement “sponsored by The Times” and if so, is The Times responsible for creating this “news” where there would be none otherwise? – Anthony
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE:
The Times : before and after – click for larger images – thanks to Kate for the 3rd one
Apparently reacting to criticism, The Times has changed the title of the article to remove the word Nazi, and the title takes an entirely different meaning. See the before and after screencaps above. (thanks to Bishop Hill) There is no mention of why. But they forgot to change the base HTML which still has the original title.
At right is The Times story headline now and the HTML source of the page showing the original title intact. Click thumbnails.
Here below is my original link to the story, unchanged:
Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis
OT: A strong earthquake with a preliminary magnitude of 6.2 has struck the North Pole, the Tsunami Warning Center reports.
I wonder if it’s due to volcanic activity.
As Mr. Gore has chosen to invoke the name of the Greatest Englishman of the Twentieth Century, I thought it appropriate to append a few quotes from Sir Winston Churchill which I considered appropriate to the quandry in which our cousins across the pond now find themselves. The best is the last, delivered to a Member of the Opposition in the House of Commons. It should be delivered to Mr. Gore.
The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.
There is no such thing as a good tax.
This report, by its very length, defends itself against the risk of being read.
True genius resides in the capacity for evaluation of uncertain, hazardous, and conflicting information.
A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.
Courage is rightly esteemed the first of human qualities… because it is the quality which guarantees all others.
It is always wise to look ahead, but difficult to look further than you can see.
The answer, sir, is in the plural. And they bounce.
To quote Winston Churchill
“Never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few”
Maybe when AGW theory has been defeated we will remember the few who saved us from the consequences.
This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning”.
Winston Churchill after Rommel’s defeat at El Alamein.
George E Smith ,
That was my point . As far as my fig tree goes – if it produced fruit , clambering about in it would do little good . Most of it’s limbs wouldn’t support my weight .
Steve Keohane (12:24:35) : Conservative&denialist (11:46:09) This is “called psychological projection”, Agreed! but further, it is a common political ploy being used more often in the past couple of years, it seems to me. Label your opponent with the worst that descibes your own tactics, so the label can’t be used on yourself first.
Right on Steve. I’ve become aware of this one too. Along with Appeal To Authority, Ad Hom, Straw Man, Suppress, and Distract, comes Project.
rbateman (13:19:12) : rbateman (13:33:44) : Well said, both times.
“So I guess that would make Al Gore the Swiss, who also profited mightily.”
Robert
Not really – he can stay an American. They profited the most out of WW2, as the major European powers, UK, France and Germany were all broken. It has taken them over 50 years to recover….
Daily Mail has it too.
‘Battle against climate change is like fighting the Nazis’: Al Gore urges world leaders to unite
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 6:16 PM on 07th July 2009
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1198150/Battle-climate-change-like-fighting-Nazis-Al-Gore-urges-world-leaders-unite.html
Al Gore is quoted as saying, “Sceptics who refused to believe dramatic cuts in carbon emissions could be delivered…”
Al is wrong once again. Skeptics don’t doubt that CO2 can be drastically reduced. All it takes is drastically reducing everyone’s standard of living — something that Al Gore personally refuses to do. If Gore actually believed that CO2 is such a great danger, then his profligate waste of resources would make him a traitor to the human race. But in reality, he’s only being a hypocrite.
voodoo (10:19:43) :
Yes; google “Venona”. [Don’t just read the sanitized Wikipedia version if you want the true story.]
After the Berlin Wall came down thousands of decrypted cables were released from KGB archives, proving among other things that Sen. McCarthy was correct about the State Department being run by agents in the service of the Soviet Union. When the Soviet documents were released, the U.S. opened many of its own Venona files.
The Venona documents showed conclusively that the author of the UN charter, Alger Hiss, was a long time Soviet agent. [Senator Moynihan’s committee also concluded that Alger Hiss was a Soviet spy.] Before Hiss was tried, convicted, and sent to the federal penitentiary for perjury, he had been nominated by Russia to be the UN’s first Secretary General. Upon becoming UN Sec-Gen, Hiss immediately appointed 494 fellow travelers to top UN positions.
So we can see why the UN is so anti-American; that seed was planted by its founders and nurtured through the Cold War, and right up to today. We can see why the UN/IPCC is at the forefront of the drive to designate CO2 as a “pollutant” and demonize one of the most beneficial gases in existence, thus hobbling its hated enemy, and in promoting the use of carbon credits to extract $trillions from America and the West in the biggest scam in history: CO2=AGW.
What the Soviet Union was unable to do militarily, it is accomplishing through its understanding of human nature, and with the connivance of the greedy and corrupt UN kleptocrats.
@ur momisugly Bishop Hill (13:02:17) :
In your link about Sir David King there is a link to a letter reportedly from R. Wyndham to the Master of University College, Oxford explaining that he will not be donating to the College, as he had done several times previously, because he objected to the appointment of Sir David King to what he describes as a sinecure as Director of the Smith School of Enterprise and the Environment at the University of Oxford.
This is the way to go.
I have donated a modest amount monthly to Oxfam for the past thirty years or so. A few weeks they sent a thick package to me to tell me that they were now campaigning to stop AGW. I have no objection to making donations to support poor people adversely affected by climate change, but I object most strongly to giving my money to people who squander it tilting at windmills.
I cancelled my standing order and now send the same money to another charity which, so far as I am aware, does not throw my money away and will use it properly. I also wrote to tell Oxfam why.
The Banksters love cap and trade. They are the real force behind this. See:
http://www.corbettreport.com/articles/20090702_banksters_cap_trade.htm
Al Gore for Carbon Czar.
Seems he never said “Nasi”. Here there is an audio of the speech: http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/Al%20Gore%2007-07-2009.WMA
However, the numbers of inaccuracies are to many to start with.
Just the part about system efficiencies… it seems he wants the be the one that thought about making more efficient systems… sorry Al, lots of people do that for a living, and I’m one of them. Making more efficient systems has never been part of any climate crisis strategy, it’s a normal part of building things. It’s a normal engineering process of making things more efficient. Like usual, you distort the truth to get to you means.
And this whole thing on soils… what a bunch of fase science… It’s clear that even poor countries will have to pay him based on his soil project.
It’s clear also that he is not going to Australia for a pleasure trip… it corresponds to their Senate vote on their climate bill that Senator Steve Fielding will kill. I could bet good money that Climate Change Minister Penny Wong managed to delay the vote to August in order to get Gore down there to work on some people and have their vote change. Political intervention never ends with these people.
Have a look at organized madness:
http://thechillingeffect.org/2009/07/07/a-graphics-worth-a-thousand-words-2/comment-page-1/#comment-18651
From Climate Depot.
Smokey (15:14:47) :
Sharp as always, well said.
Hey, Watts, you lying half-wit – try spinning on this – http://climateprogress.org/2009/07/07/noaa-ncdc-is-the-us-temperature-record-reliable-deniers-anthony-watts-surfacestationsorg/
(Slightly offtopic/conspiracy style:
Another thing about Times Online: I’ve seen at least two articles in Times Online disappear. One article where Jeremy Clarkson says that there is no free speech on global warming issues, and sais that Prius is useless car. It’s also an article with a nobel prize winner’s harsh criticism on wind power, which disappeared quite rapidly.
What appears is a Times Online page with the text “Error 404”, that there is no such page. When I’ve e-mailed Times about it, they answer that I should change browser, despite the given information excludes that problem.)
I took a look at your Firefox screen shot and noticed that in your Google search box the word “shrinkage” was still visible. Did someone go to a cold pool today?
I wondered if anyone was going to notice that. It is leftover from my search on Global Warming Shrinks Sheep
no joke
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/global_warming_shrinks_sheep
– Anthony
Al Gore : “Sceptics who refused to believe dramatic cuts in carbon emissions could be delivered…”
In one retorical statement, Gore manipulates 2 times:
1) “Refuse to believe”.
Sceptics are not “refusing to believe” like a naughty silly child.
No Sceptics “has another opinion”.
2) “.. believe dramatic cuts in carbon emissions could be delivered…”
Most sceptics dont believe much in the benefit of cutting in CO2.
The 1933-45 German propaganda machine where world champions in developing the most retorical and manipulating writings.
I hope everyone will soon see that what Gore does is similar.
I’ll let Churchill himself describe Al Gore:
“He is a sheep in sheep’s clothing.”
@Elizabeth (10:22:19) :
“[…] I was inputting numbers into a carbon calculator I found on the internet […]”
I followed your link to the calculator. What a hoot! My brain feels cleaner already from the washing, rinse, and blow dry it received there.
The ‘Secondary’ usage section had the most wonderful leading and loaded choices I’ve seen in quite some time. I was looking for my carbon footprint for ritual sacrifices of water buffalo but they don’t seem to have a check box for that one. Not that I ritually sacrifice water buffalo, mind you, but I’d certainly want to take my carbon footprint into consideration if I was mulling over taking up the practice ;o)
Thanks for the link!
Ah, I see you captured the pics of the headline change.
You can also see it by going to the google news page and putting in “al gore nazi”. It’s near the top.
http://news.google.ca/news?pz=1&ned=ca&hl=en&q=gore+nazi
Once google refreshes their story cache this might change.
I also tried archive.org but that didn’t work as the Times has their pages blocked to robots.
Who is watching the watchers?
If we’re going to toss out appropriate-to-the-moment Sir Winston quotes, then I’ll offer this one.
Winston is in the WC at parliament, taking care of business at the trough. A well known socialist-leaning MP walks in, stands close to him, and begins to do the same. Winston sidles away from him at the trough. “What’s the matter Winston, feeling a bit standoffish today?” Replied Churchill, “Not at all –it’s just that whenever you see an enterprise as large and well-run as this one, you always try to nationalize it!”
In that photo of the Manbearpig Elmer Gantry, it appears that he is giving the Papal benediction. He is the Pope of the new religion.
It seems that a flight to Australia and back will amount to about 22.9 tonnes of CO2 according to that carbonprint calculator. But the really funny part is that Radiative Forcing bit if you decide to click that box. See the text below. So, your flight might have a greater global warming effect if you click that box… well then, I won’t click it and that will help the planet.
Carbon emissions from planes at high altitude have an increased effect on global warming. Tick the box if you would like to multiply aviation emissions by DEFRA’s recommended Radiative Forcing factor of 1.9.
Lucy Skywalker (15:01:09) :
There is something to be said for not sinking to the level of polyscience agendas. Dubya outfoxed him with values. If Bush could do it and send him packing, so can we.
Al Gore wants to save the planet by sacrificing freedom, properity and sovereignity.
If you value any of the above, AGW is an end justifies the means agenda.
The price tag of his utopian dream is for the West to fling itself on it’s sword.
Too much already has been ceded to cruel regimes. No more.