Gore / Nazis – two words I thought I’d never see together, and never wanted to. Yet here it is in a story in the Times Online. Surprisingly, Hollywood has been exploiting this linkage for years. I suppose the appearance of a proof of Godwins Law was inevitable, given how long the global warming discussion and Gore have gone on.
Does anyone else besides me get the impression that Al Gore is really reaching now? At the end of this post, Mr. Gore listed only two possible future questions, I’m sure our readers can fill in some of the missing ones. – Anthony
Addendum: I wonder, did Gore get paid for this speaking engagement “sponsored by The Times” and if so, is The Times responsible for creating this “news” where there would be none otherwise? – Anthony
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE:
The Times : before and after – click for larger images – thanks to Kate for the 3rd one
Apparently reacting to criticism, The Times has changed the title of the article to remove the word Nazi, and the title takes an entirely different meaning. See the before and after screencaps above. (thanks to Bishop Hill) There is no mention of why. But they forgot to change the base HTML which still has the original title.
At right is The Times story headline now and the HTML source of the page showing the original title intact. Click thumbnails.
Here below is my original link to the story, unchanged:
Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis
It seems like every one is getting onto the big N bandwagon.
see http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6643750.ece
On the other hand, having a bit of fun with this pathetic new low…
Al Gore Likens Fight Against Climate Change to Battle with Nazis
Today, in a stunning move, Al Gore renounced the climate change movement and admitted that he has had the science all wrong. He now considers the effect of increasing CO2 levels in the atmosphere to be miniscule as far as temperature changes. He also announced that, as a result of the increasing levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, the biosphere is the healthiest it has been in many millennia. He further stated that he now considers the greatest danger facing mankind to be cooling in the form of a new Little Ice Age.
In the spirit of his conversion, he said that the climate change movement is a greater danger to mankind and freedom than anything nature can throw mankind’s way. He even went so far as to liken the climate change movement to Nazism and that we must marshal all our moral, legal, and intellectual forces to defeat this insidious belief system lest the world’s interconnected economies are ruined for naught.
Spokespersons for WWF, Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, and the Obama administration had no comment to this stunning development.
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as if the media would cover such an event…
K. I spent 6:10 watching the video on the link provided above, then a bemused 20 minutes ripping through the comments.
Hands up those that actually watched. If Nazi was invoked, it wasn’t during the broadcast piece. Nothing has cited that except the headline.
I urge all of you to jump to the top and listen to what the Great Gazoo has to say. Bafflegab. Sorry, you decide. He reminded me of Paula Abdul on American Idol after too many muscle relaxants.
I haven’t been able to read all the posts, but has anybody mentioned the Times Online has scrubbed all mention of Nazis from the article?
This guy…
http://deceiver.com/2009/07/07/al-gore-master-of-understatement/
was able to save the browser header, for what that’s worth.
>>Plans for the world’s largest wind farm in the Texas
>>panhandle have been scrapped
He might have just discovered that Texas can generate some mighty big anticyclones that hang around for ages. Anyone got an annual wind graph for Texas??
Its a concert effort, death trains, hollocaust denier, Nazi, and put on trial for crimes against humanity have all been the mantra of global warming, designed to make us feel guilty or not pc. Also used as get out of jail free cards when you don’t really have anything new to say in the way of proof and don’t dare take open questions.
pwl (16:28:24) :
Ah, I see you captured the pics of the headline change.
Since Gore fancies himself as Churchill maybe someone should photoshop a big fat cigar between his fingers in the photo.
Something Al should remember about Churchill is that the the Great British Public voted him and the Tory party out of office as soon as the polls opened after the second world war.
>>Slightly OT, but there are only 4 comments on the
>>original timesonline web page.
That’s because they have disabled posting to that page – I have tried several times. Comments probably got too rancorous and unprintable.
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Is he really comparing himself to both Churchill & Kennedy?
He needs help.
It still reads
Video: Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis – Times Online
(O_o) Clearly someone within the editorial staff who has no clue that changing content with your CMS does not censor all incriminating evidence on that page. Better pick up the phone to call err…. no let them be clueless.
Comming to think of it, i think this is a bug in the CMS that “Times Online” is using. For creating an entry like this the editor has to come with a title, the battle with ze germans for example. CMS then creates an HTML-page with the title in the meta-data and the editor continues filling it with content, again with said title of “the battle with ze germans”.
Later on the editor decides that it is perhaps a good plan to change the title to something less provoking, but it is only the content that gets changed not the meta-data.
Is that supposed to be the famous “Vee” sign Winston used? I guess the history of “finger signs” is settled. Al, it’s the *other* way around, go and do a bit of research and find out why your are wrong.
So I wonder which is the Great deciever ; Gore or Obama ?
thanks, I always like to hear and mostly agree with what al gore has to say, and I would have missed it if you hadnt posted it on your site, keep up the good work
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[Your sukiho website is porn, and the post is traffic trolling, so I’m pleased to announce that you are now PERMANENTLY BANNED]
Mikey – Yes, the article, as well as the headline, has been re-jigged. I wrote a furious comment quoting the original. Needless to say, it has not appeared and the article currently shows just 4 (realist) responses – 1 more than at the time of my attempted posting.
However, Sir (sic) David King’s conference clearly has a theme…
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6643750.ece
John A,
Will you agree with me that Al Gore did not use the word Nazi or compare the challenge of AGW/CC to Nazism (a madman’s work the evil of which I absolutely agree with you about) but was talking of the reality that political will was/is needed to address both?
The only nazi’s out there are the global warming alarmists:
– They are the ones telling people how to run their lives
– They are the ones suggesting that our population needs reduced
– They are the ones that have subjected the media, entire governments and bureaucracies to their extreme views
I never thought that after the exposure of the evils of nazism and other totalitarian regimes in the 20th century that we could ever see regimes like that again. But if we see a totalitarian regime again in the western world it will be a regime based on green nazism, not any dissent of it.
>>I urge all of you to jump to the top and listen to what
>>the Great Gazoo has to say.
And the prime buzzwords were ‘Global Governance’ and ‘Global Leadership’.
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Plus, car engines are not 10% efficient (perhaps in the US?). In Europe, a good diesel is 35% efficient. And, the idea that you can make a vehicle that does not have to carry the weight of its own engine is nuts.
Yes, the constant transfer of energy states is hugely wasteful. So why are Greenies proposing to make electricity from wind, change that electricity into chemical or potential energy, and then transfer it all back into electricity again?? Doesn’t make sense, does it, Mr Gore.
Perhaps, if we could liberate the energy of an atomic nucleus exactly when and where we needed that energy, this might solve all our problems. What’s that you say – we can already???
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The Maldives in the Indian Ocean have a fine new airport completed in the nineties occupying one whole island of the 1,100 island plus archipelago. The Maldives are much visited by honeymooners from the UK. They are a little over 5000 miles, or 10 hours’ flying, from London.
Mohammed Nasheed, the President of the Maldives spoke, at the invitation of Sir David King, on 5th July at The Times World Forum on Enterprise and the Environment at the University of Oxford.
It’s such a pity that the vast majority of the 500,000 tourists each year, on whom the economy of the Maldives depends, fly in. Under AGW dogma, the islands are being inundated by their own carbon footprints. There is clearly a serious flaw in the President’s position. He needs a good PR adviser. Maybe he already has one.
Below are some quotes from the Timesonline article of 6 July (see http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6643750.ece – thank you Galloyd).
Mohammed Nasheed, the President of the Maldives, told The Times that defending his island nation against rising sea levels was a humanitarian challenge as critical as defending Poland against Nazi Germany in 1939.
President Nasheed announced in March that his country would spend $110 million (£67 million) a year to become the first in the world with a zero-carbon economy by 2019.”
“The zero-carbon initiative, he said, would set an example to the rest of the world, but was also the best answer to the Maldives’ energy and development needs. “We know that the Maldives becoming carbon neutral is not going to decarbonise the world and stop us from annihilation. We know that. But at least we could die knowing we’ve done the right thing,” he said.
He accepted that zero-carbon status would not take into account the emissions from 500,000 tourists who fly to the islands each year — outnumbering the population of 385,000. However, they would use less carbon while in the Maldives than they would have done at home.
“If you spend this minute in England you are using more carbon than you would if you were spending it in the Maldives,” President Nasheed said. “Therefore your travel will be offset by the time you spend in the Maldives.”
what is wrong with you people?! gore is 100% right. the analogy with nazis is SOOO simple: they would have meant the end of civilization, now the threat is global warming! not even ONE positive comment? but of course, you only care about getting stuffed tonight and using all the energy this planet has to offer! you don’t really care about the future of your children! continuing with the analogy, I would say that YOU’RE the nazis!
This casual interview with professor Richard Lindzen in a radio talk-show is not about figures and detailed explanation of the science, but it maybe would be good to suggest ordinary people who’s buying AGW to listen to it.
http://audio.wrko.com/m/audio/24111309/richard-lindzen-global-warming-denier.htm
Regarding Russian reaction to AGW and it perhaps being a ‘Soviet plot’, the Russians have (had?) plenty of scepticism re King’s visit.
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/climate-policy/politics/illarionov2004-5.php
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6643750.ece
They’re at it again. Apparently they must think that Nazis are really bad in order to compare them to denialists!!!
Gore’s reference to the Apollo moon program is a bit ironic, bearing in mind that the second man to walk on the moon is an AGW sceptic.
His comments in general are pretty insulting. But these increasingly shrill comments from him and some scientists such as Hansen may indicate that, deep down, they know they are slowly losing the argument.
Chris
The right wing critics are out again, what can we say about Gore now, maybe when he talks about saving the next generation, the headline on WUWT would be “Gore to eat children”.
I would be tempted to say that he might be compared to communism but that’s already been done !.
Lets get this straight, Gore never mentioned the words Nazi, Fight, battle etc.
He talked about Political Will, nothing more, nothing less.