Gore and Nazis

Times Reader (10:21:30) :
So this appears to be an active attempt to materially misrepresent what their readership thinks about AGW.
Maybe a decision has been taken that there is money to be made?

geo (09:19:24) :
“Now, I don’t happen to agree with Mr. Gore. Or to the degree I do, I would like a few more leaders with Churchillian courage to say “No, you haven’t proved your case yet that the warming we’ve seen is caused primarily by C02 rather than having a large natural variation component, and you certainly haven’t proven the case on the degree of future warming dependant in your models on a large positive feedback mechanism”. But he is entitled to his view, as I am to mine…. ”
My problem is the way he projects his views. I attended the National Association of Pension Funds Investment Conference in Edinburgh in March 2007. Mr Gore flew in made a presentation and flew out again. When he was questioned by the audience he made an ad hominem attack on the maker of The Great Global Warming Swindle. Not very edifying or persuasive. No science at all.
I don’t know where you are from, but Nigel Lawson, former UK Chancellor of the Exchequer has written an excellent book “An Appeal to Reason – a Cool Look at Global Warming”. The trouble is that, so far as I am aware, all the active politicians are running scared and keep their true views hidden. You are correct that we need a Churcillian figure because the cost to the world’s poor of going down the Gore route will be horrific.
Regards

Responding to Al’s speech at Oxford published by Nature the Great Beyond online
http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2009/07/big_al_speaks_on_climate_and_n.html
We submitted this comment – as yet unpublished:
This is the first time I’ve read Al and thought he might be on to something. What Al et al, may have come to know is the “fright and flight” instinct in modern man has diminished. Where once, external forces could readily coerce man’s reactions by instilling fear – there is now a far more measured, pragmatic response. In the Dark Ages a king could command the obedience of the peasants by guaranteeing safety from marauders. Fear of catastrophe was the authoritarian’s friend.
This is no longer true. Al et al have learned that faced with a global “catastrophe” the human race will start to scramble in the desired direction and then pause. To look hard at the facts. And when the facts indicate a sham is at work – the scrambling will end. Sober thought takes hold and the shamers regardless of original intent – will be outed.
Had the science relied on in this exercise been sound – human response would be different. Had we incontrovertible evidence that we were under attack, response would be different. To answer Al’s question – YES. An opposable thumb and neocortex are a good combination. A successful combination ready for full admittance.
As to the emergency induced emotion? The human heart responds to real suffering. It does not and will not respond to simulated suffering. In an artificial world one can little expect more than artificial emotion.
Artifice can never replace original being.
IB

The link to Nature above includes an embedded link to the entire audio track of Gore’s speech (scroll down). No need for a subpoena. You can hear it for yourself.
IB

…Wow. But it seems like he’s trying to go more for the ‘ignorance is bad’ approach than the horrible, overblown ‘climate change is the Holocaust’ claim that people assume when they see the word ‘Nazi.’
There was satellite footage of what the Nazis were doing even while Europe was set firmly on appeasement. I think Gore’s comparison was poorly chosen, but it seems like a valid point to say that countries know what’s going on and are choosing to avoid it.

Indiana Bones (11:18:42) :
And of course Al Gore has to use the term “Climate Crisis” now.
From AGW to Climate Change, to Climate Chaos and now of course it’s finally a “Climate Crisis.” I suppose “Climate Catastrophe” is next on the menu. While they are using their opposable thumbs to go through the dictionary for the latest soupe du jour, the Global temps are dropping. Al is missing his opportunity to state that the mere fact of producing “An Inconvenient Truth” has reversed the Global temperature trend and that he has single-handedly saved the planet.
Hey, Al. You forgot that along with the opposable thumb and neocortex combination that you talked about, there can also be an opposable opinion of your agenda.

You should hear about Andrew Jackson and Zombie Nazis!
http://knowledgementco.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/andrew-jacksons-album-cover-changes/

Al Gore’s Nazi’s are a critical pivot point, a turning point, a crossing of Al Gore’s own river Rubicon
http://pathstoknowledge.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/al-gores-nazis-are-a-critical-pivot-point-a-turning-point-a-crossing-of-al-gores-own-river-rubicon/

‘A politician needs the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month, and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn’t happen.’
Winston Churchill

henrychance (10:15:55) :
“Schedule the witch hunts. We are getting some utilities switched to radio transmitted meter readings on the electric meter. Then they can monitor you and knock on your door if you get a little too enthusiastic on lights and appliances”
Get out your tinfoil hat before its too late.

spiderpoman support Gore
Reply: I dunno. I just felt like letting this one through. ~ ctm

Just little coincidence. Hungarian Nazis, a particularly vicious gang of thugs, were also called green shirts, because that was their trademark uniforms.