A mass exodus of business and jobs out of California will be the likely result of this madness. From the San Franscisco Chronicle:
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Free and paid credits
Businesses that emit more carbon dioxide than is allowed under the law will have to use “allowances” – or credits – to make up for the difference. The allowances will be mostly free when the program starts in a little more than two months, but eventually businesses will have to purchase credits in an auction – a sort of penalty for exceeding the limit. The board’s major action on Thursday was to finalize how credits will be allocated.
The opposition from the industrial sectors, like glass manufacturers and oil refineries, strongly objected to the initial requirement that forces these businesses to pay for 10 percent of their credits. They said paying for the allowances – one previous idea was that they be free – will be crippling as businesses in other states and countries will have a competitive advantage.
Higher water rates
Multiple representatives of water agencies, mainly in Southern California, also told the board that because the regulation covers their energy usage, water rates would increase.
The cost will be about $2.50 per year per household, said air board spokesman Stanley Young, explaining that utilities are covered by the law because of the electricity used in moving water from Northern California to Southern California.
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Have they read the BEST report?
The end of industry in California.
I had a feeling when BEST went of prematurely that the politicians and media would not wait to capitalise.
Typically, Mr Black from the BBC misunderstood the preliminary, non-peer reviewed BEST report. They raved it as the best and most complete science confirming AGW alongside a picture of Michael Mann’s Hockey stick chart.
So the team abused and perverted peer review and BEST has not even been peer reviewed. Neither is BEST a review of the hockey stick data, just the earth surface temps according to weather station sighting, rather than proxies, and yet the BBC have claimed that this non-peer review grey literature (as it is at this time) is conclusive proof of ALL AGW alarmist claims.
It looks to me Like Mr Black was looking to deliberately antagonise climate realists.
As for this carbon cap, it will only drive business out of California. And yet when unemployment in California reaches astronomical levels, the California liberals will blame capitalist greed for it and not their own myopic worldview.
Can we build a fence so that California idiocy stays in California?
“Moving beyond denial….”, the Governator speaks…and now, the illegitimate child is unleashed.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyfo7_schwarzenegger-on-global-warming-ja_news
Notice the hesitant applause….
NZ, UK, Australia, and now California. What other lemmings are there at the top of the cliff, just waiting to jump?
At least California’s goal of of reducing CO2 back to 1990 levels should be met easily. What with businesses and industry fleeing the state. They should be very careful what they wish for.
“The cost will be about $2.50 per year per household, said air board spokesman Stanley Young, explaining that utilities are covered by the law because of the electricity used in moving water from Northern California to Southern California.”
Hmmmm. I am suspicious. Looking at my map, that is all downhill. .
Black is not a journalist in any real sense of the word. The BBC has amassed a huge number of positively blinkered presenters/newsreaders/journos and with cuts in the BBC budget they should be made redundant, sadly they will be the only ones left!
R.I.P. California
A mass exodus??? Did you mean a continuance of the mass exodus???
What a crazed world we live in. If only the main stream media would do some investigative journalism so we can understand the “whats,” “whys,” and “whos” that push specific legs of the craze and help identify the “reals,” the “not-reals,” and the “who knows.”
Dear *productive* citizens of Califonia – please relocate elsewhere in the United States so that we may give your state back to Mexico.
Thank you.
This is excellent news. Finally, we have an experiment that should yield some results. My prediction is that emissions will go down in California as a direct result (and correlated with) the price of energy use, which will skyrocket in California due to this legislation. This will result in an initial revenue gain, then an inevitable loss in business, commerce and revenue as people and businesses flee the state. Poverty will increase, since the poor will not be as able to escape the rising costs as the rich, and are less well equipped to absorb the increased price of energy use.
Meanwhile, global emissions will continue to rise as industry moves to places with less stringent controls, and the climate will continue to be completely unaffected by the change.
Truly insane. It’s reminiscent of Zhu Di’s decision to close medieval China off from the rest of the world, eventually turning the most enlightened, technologically advanced country on earth into the most backward, poorest country on earth.
Do they seriously think that all the manufacturers and businesses will just take the ‘carbon tax’ out of profit and move on?
This is totally off-topic but I would appreciate some help. Sometime, I think in the last week, a link appeared either in an item or in the comments to a new diagram/poster which showed how the media, government, academia, NGO’s etc interacted to produce and sustain the AGW message. I want to download/print it. Can anyone give me a pointer?
Many thanks,
MikeA
Mike Atkinson. I think this is what you’re looking for, courtesy of the estimable Jo Nova.
http://joannenova.com.au/2011/10/map-the-climate-change-scare-machine-the-perpetual-self-feeding-cycle-of-alarm/
This is what happens when politicians and bureaucrats catch “the green disease”! California’s economy wasn’t that crash hot. This will just make things worse. But good luck to California for acting as the guinea pig in this green experiment. I think its an odds on certainty that California will suffer an economic downturn directly caused by its cap and trade program.
“allowances” . . . must be a typo.
Should be “indulgences”
They’ll reduce energy use to 1990 levels by reducing population to 1990 levels.
Look out for the world’s first climate scare refugees.
My Golden State turning into lead. It’s the 21st century’s version of alchemy.
There has been a lot of insane decisions coming out of California lately, with just ten days ago governor Jerry Brown legalizing 12-year-old children giving ‘consent’ to Gardasil vaccine injections, and now this.
This is a truly grave moment for the U.S., with California “greenhouse gas” trading system being the first economywide cap-and-trade program. I fear it will the final nail in the economic coffin for the country.
Given that California has one of the largest economies in the world, you might be right
@David in Georiga says: October 21, 2011 at 5:09 am
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Meanwhile, global emissions will continue to rise as industry moves to places with less stringent controls, and the climate will continue to be completely unaffected by the change.
Hey! I live in the UK! We already did that! I’ve got the Tee Shirt!
-and the huge electricity bill 8o((
Can you provide some hard numbers? How has the change in legislation affected your bill compared to the change in global emissions?
May humanity survive, at least for two days. [“unnecessary and cumulative costs on our water rates.”] This is also – ‘energy prices necessarily skyrocket’ solution. An experiment on a small sample-.01oz of 1203 UN fuel testing flash point is logic. Testing on a 7000 gallon tanker is suicide.
The committee – appointed group of selected persons methodology within problem-solution-mitigation has been thoroughly finalized with validation by master Stalin.
Stalin ended up with the greatness of several, a few, really large beholding to the master centers of productivity that what a capitalist would call crony capitalist corporations. These by their very nature are able to pass on to the consumer any and all costs associated with the goal of utopia. The smaller ones will by physics – gravity fall to oblivion.
If 100 people have a task to reaching the top of some mountain, and 49 of those are not required to carry any burden, then the 49 will control the speed of forward travel complaining that we be mov’in too slow. In all utopias there is a significant paradise in the first few steps, then the natural happening occurs –
Actually I would not worry at all because temperatures ARE NOT RISING, currently they are falling and are unlike to rise for the next 1000 years, people will notice this in fact they already are as polls keep showing….. Over time AGW will keel over and all these regulations concerning CO2 will be ditched although other non-C02 stuff probably wont for monetary/environmental reasons.
Also and analysis of the NDCD data used by MUller and Co will probably show something similar to Fra##