Translation via the GWPF
Speculation Alert: “New Little Ice Age Cannot Be Ruled Out”
Wednesday, 15 December 2010 09:16 Rickmer Flor, wetter.info
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It is already clear: the average temperatures in Germany this year (8.1 degrees Celsius) were 0.2 degrees below the long term measured average of 8.3 degrees. “I fear we will end up still significantly lower by the end of the year”, said Globig. The long-term average is actually the average of all German stations from 1961 to 1990.
Coldest December in 100 years
In Berlin, there was an absolute cold record in early December, “For 100 years it had not been as cold as in the first decade of December,” said Globig. This also applied to other regions. But why is it so cold just now? Might it have anything to do with climate change? “I’m very sceptical”, replied Globig. A few years ago when we had a period of mild winters many climate scientists warned that winter sport in Germany’s low mountain ranges would soon no longer be possible anymore because of global warming. “Now they are saying: the cold winters are a consequence of global warming – a questionable implication,” according to Globig.
“Unbelievable amounts of snow” in Berlin (AW note: 800 flights grounded in EU)
Globig appeals to our long-term memory – and recalls a prolonged period of extremely cold and snowy winter in the 1960s and 1970s. Half a meter of snow fell in Berlin in early March 1970, in Potsdam even 70 centimetres. “From today’s perspective, these amounts were unbelievable.”
Then followed a period of milder years, and, probably the impression spread that there will be no more real winters in Germany”, said Globig. “That was a misjudgment.” People became careless, and as a result the authorities run out of grit in a very short time last winter and this year the airport operators lacked de-icing fluid for airplanes. In the Berlin the S-Bahn traffic came to a halt because of the cold and the high-speed trains did not run either. “Our modern, high-tech world was completely overwhelmed with the winter situation” said Globig.
Even the last winter was extremely hard
Many had succumbed to the delusion that the usually mild winters of the past ten years would continue. But already the winter 2009/2010 – with its long periods of frost and snow well into spring – was an eye-opening event for many. “This eye-opening experience could be even bigger this year,” predicts Globig.
Globig sees two main causes for the significant cooling: First, the cyclical changes in the big air currents over the Atlantic, and second, the variations in solar activity.
“Everyone has heard about the high over the Azores and the low over Iceland,” said Globig. The most important question for weather forecasts for many years was: “What are the air pressure differences between the two regions, how stormy will it be – and how much mild air is being shovelled sequentially from the Atlantic to Europe?”
“Both pressure areas do not exist right now,” explains Globig. On the contrary, over the Azores there is lower air pressure and a high over Iceland. “The weather over the Atlantic is upside down,” said Globig. Now cold air from the polar region has lots of space to flow to Europe – and that is what is happening.
“Normal” fluctuations with large currents
“These changes in the so-called ‘Atlantic Oscillation’ are totally normal – just hard to predict in detail,” explains Globig. The storm “Kyrill” in 2007 was the peak of the flow activity from the Atlantic to Europe. “Since then it has grown quiet over the sea,” the meteorologist said. The lows over the Atlantic have become weaker and weaker.
This effect has taken place in previous years, but at irregular intervals. Science does not yet know much about it, says Globig, „but here lies the key to a better understanding of the seasons”.
The low temperatures could very well go on a few years, maybe decades. Even more icy cold could be possible. „It has happened before, and can be explained with natural climate variability,” said Globig. We could even be at the beginning of a Little Ice Age, “the probability is at least given.”
This is also supported by the current development of solar activity. Solar activity has passed the zenith of a nearly 200 years continuing phase of high activity and will decline in coming decades. Around the years 2040/2050, scientists expect a new so-called solar minimum, with very little supply of solar energy into the Earth’s atmosphere.
Spread of the Arctic ice?
“I think it is even conceivable that the Arctic ice spreads significantly in the years to come,” said Globig. The impact of solar activity on climate has been criminally underestimated for a long time.
The last two weeks have been the coldest in England since the second-to-last solar minimum, many hundreds of years ago. “What actually will happen depends on the next five to ten years,” believes Globig. But one thing now appears to be very likely for the weather expert, “We will have to abandon some climate forecasts. “
Wetter T-Online, 14 December 2010 (translation by Philipp Mueller)
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Woot! Go meteomedia go!
Here’s the link to their very good network of automated stations in Germany:
http://wetterstationen.meteomedia.de/messnetz/eu_d.html
You can click on any one and choose the free 4 day prognosis on the right and you get something like this:
http://wetterstationen.meteomedia.de/messnetz/forecast/103480.html
Love them!
Unfortunately the communications between such as this meteorologist and the dangerous people of like mind who populate the CAGW annual UN climate meetings are non-existent. Watch now for a German meteorologist or climate scientist to neutralize Globig’s views. Germany is loaded with these cats.
I think it is interesting to note what is happening in Iqualuit, Nunavut, Canada; near the Arctic circle. For yesterday, the average high temperature was -18 C. The actual high temperature was +3 C; 21 Celsius degrees above normal. If this had occurred today here in Ottawa, Canada, we would have had the equivalent of a nice cool summer day, instead of temparatures hovering around 0 C.
“Solar activity has passed the zenith of a nearly 200 years continuing phase of high activity ”
Interesting.
Even mainstream TV weather forecasters are being interviewed with increasing frequency and are beginning to talk about natural climate variability. A year or two back it was ‘Folgen des Klimawandels’ and ‘Klimaerwärmung’. Now the tone is more questioning with the certainties of the past now longer paraded with the same ‘settled science’ triumphalism. Latif’s ( IFM-GEOMAR Kiel) comments about no discernable warming since the 90’s because of natural variability masking AGW (which he said surprised him) broke, so to speak, the ice here in the main stream media.
All in all, a lot of hedging going on.
“Around the years 2040/2050, scientists expect a new so-called solar minimum, with very little supply of solar energy into the Earth’s atmosphere.”
Oh, please. Not the dreaded “very little supply” forecast.
What the H*** does that mean?
It must then be an order of magnitude worse than this article says, with the UHI and warm-earther “adjustments” to the record. Maybe a Maunder minimum is at hand?
Gee, reckon there’s a cycle (or several ) in the room? 😉
When we were in southern Germany in June, July this year there was a heat wave
> 35 C , so Mr Hansen you better get to quoting those figures MATE!
“And it might even get worse: “It is quite possible that we are at the beginning of a Little Ice Age,”
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yeah yeah yeah
It was “quite possible” that we would never see snow again, just a year or so
If this isn’t proof that these quacks don’t know their rears from a whole in the ground, nothing is………………………..
Yes, that is absolutely true. If solar activity will not start to pick up, LIA 2 is here within few years.
There has been a snowstorm in Río Gallegos, Santa Cruz province in Patagonia, two days ago with only a week away from the official entrance into SH summer.
In Februrary 14th, 2007 was also a great snowfall in Bariloche, a ski resort in Patagonia, allowing tourists to put on their skis and have some fun in the slopes. The day before tourists had been swimming in Lake Nahel Huapi at the bottom of the slopes.
Cold polar fronts are constantly bringing cold air to Argentina, a country presently going through a severe drought induced by the well settled La Niña in the Pacific. These conditions will last until mid March.
Hi Anthony,
please visit wetter24.de http://tinyurl.com/2bhpabr to see a map of the temperature deviations for December in Germany. The temperatures differ up to 5°C below the average values. It is a harsh winter indeed.
REPLY: Thanks Caspar, I’ve replaced the current weather image with the one you have suggested, since it was more relevant to the story. Thank you sincerely. – Anthony
“The impact of solar activity on climate has been criminally underestimated for a long time.” Doesn’t sound like consensus- building in Germany.
“I think it is even conceivable that the Arctic ice spreads significantly in the years to come,” said Globig
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This event would signify extreme cooling, at least in the Northern Hemisphere. Many deaths would results in Europe and North America as a result, which would be tragic. However, I fear seeing Arctic ice increase will be the only way to empirically, once and for all, with decisiveness, kill CAGW theory.
No doubt there will still be a handful of True Believers who cling to the CAGW religion. But, with a doomed-arctic-ice meme dead, the Warmers won’t have much to hang their hat on, from either a science standpoint, or a propaganda standpoint.
I cited “AGW theory” in my post above. I have given AGW more than its deserved due. I meant to type “AGW conjecture.”
Is this not exactly what Dr Zangari proposed back in June 2010, when he considered that the tentative gulf stream would be stopped by the spilled oil from Florida’s gulf coast. His estimate was 10 degree lower temperatures than the norm.
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2010/08/14/dr-zangari-the-gulf-stream-and-gulf-loop-current-is-broken-and-collapsing-global-climate-affected-29-july-2010/
Even though his paper is just speculation, maybe there is something in what he has said, at least in regard to the current when it should becomes the North Atlantic drift.
It will be interesting to see how the “smoothing” of the European temperatures “hides the decline”…
Well, at least the French would be hilariously happy if Germany froze over for a while, or two, so they could get the EU subsides for the german farmers as well, which is surly need by the french farmers since they only get like 50% of the total EU budget now.
But OMG, will the beer in Munich in October freeze then?
John F. Hultquist says:
December 18, 2010 at 10:46 am
Oh, please. Not the dreaded “very little supply” forecast.
What the H*** does that mean?
It means it’s worse than we thought! Billions will DIE!!!
Don’t panic! No, no! I mean Don’t Stop Panicking!
No …
Er …
What do I mean?
Mike. says:
December 18, 2010 at 11:18 am
Unless I’m very much mistake there was not nearly enough oil released to do anything of the sort. The entire oil-induced gulf stream collapse idea was based on models (there’s that word again) that vastly overstated the amount of released oil and then assumed the worst possible effects. No, once again this is simply natural variability, over which man has not had a jot of control.
That’s an interesting article. I don’t want to over-interpret the results for a single country, but it’s necessary to keep all of the individual cases in mind when talking about overall trends. One thing that was gotten wrong, though, was an apparent confusion of the terminology with the regular solar cycle of maximum & minimum with the rarer and longer-term Maunder and Dalton Minima. For instance, “…since the second-to-last solar minimum, many hundreds of years ago.” But maybe that’s an issue with the translation.
Mike. says:
December 18, 2010 at 11:18 am
“Is this not exactly what Dr Zangari proposed back in June 2010, when he considered that the tentative gulf stream would be stopped by the […]”
Even though snow came 3 weeks earlier than last year, last winter was also extremely cold here in Germany – so my question would be how the Macondo spill in April 2010 managed to give us a cold winter in 2009/2010.
“We could even be at the beginning of a Little Ice Age, “the probability is at least given.”
Not very likely
http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?journal=A%2bG..&year=2003&volume=..44&letter=e&db_key=GEN&page_ind=162&plate_select=NO&data_type=GIF&type=SCREEN_GIF&classic=YES