The State of Climate Science: Uncertainty, Complexity, and the Politics That Follow

Every so often it’s worth stepping back from the daily barrage of nonsensical doom laden headlines and taking stock of where things actually stand. Not where press releases say they stand, not where advocacy groups would prefer they stand—but where the underlying science, data, and institutions genuinely are. Climate science today sits in an unusual position: technically sophisticated, heavily funded, and politically elevated to a degree few scientific fields have ever experienced. That combination brings both uncertainty and, inevitably, complications.

Let’s begin with the science itself.

There’s no question that the observational network is better than it was decades ago. Satellite measurements, ocean buoys, reanalysis datasets—these have added layers of detail that early researchers could only dream about. But improved instrumentation hasn’t eliminated uncertainty; it has simply shifted where that uncertainty resides. Surface temperature records, for example, remain subject to adjustments, homogenization techniques, and ongoing revisions. Each of those steps may be justified individually, yet the cumulative effect introduces a level of opacity that deserves scrutiny rather than automatic trust.

Climate models, meanwhile, continue to serve as the backbone of long-term projections. They’ve grown more complex, incorporating atmospheric chemistry, ocean dynamics, and land-use changes with increasing granularity. But complexity is not the same as accuracy. Model ensembles still display a wide spread in climate sensitivity estimates, and their historical performance shows mixed skill depending on the metric chosen. Some runs track observations reasonably well; others overshoot warming trends, particularly in the tropical troposphere—a region that was once expected to provide a clear “fingerprint” of greenhouse forcing.

What’s often missing in public discussions is the distinction between hindcasting and forecasting. A model tuned to match past data does not necessarily demonstrate predictive skill. As one often-cited principle in statistics reminds us, fitting known data is relatively easy; predicting unseen data is where the real test lies. Yet much of the confidence conveyed to policymakers rests on scenarios that extend decades into the future, relying on assumptions about emissions, technological change, and socio-economic pathways that are themselves highly speculative.

Then there’s the matter of attribution. The claim that recent warming is primarily driven by human activity is widely repeated, but the degree of certainty attached to that claim varies depending on how it is framed. Detection and attribution studies use statistical techniques to separate human and natural influences, but those methods depend heavily on model output. When models disagree, attribution inherits that uncertainty. It’s a circularity that rarely gets acknowledged in simplified summaries.

None of this is to suggest that greenhouse gases have no effect on climate. Basic radiative physics has been understood for over a century. The question has always been one of magnitude, feedbacks, and the relative importance of natural variability. Solar influences, ocean oscillations, and cloud dynamics remain areas where understanding is incomplete. Clouds in particular—those ubiquitous, ever-changing features of the atmosphere—continue to represent one of the largest sources of uncertainty in climate sensitivity estimates.

Now, pivot to the political climate surrounding all this.

Climate science has become deeply intertwined with policy in a way that few other disciplines have. Funding priorities, institutional incentives, and public messaging are all shaped by the perceived urgency of the issue. Governments allocate billions toward mitigation strategies, international agreements hinge on model projections, and entire industries are being reshaped under the banner of decarbonization.

This creates a feedback loop. Scientific findings inform policy, but policy priorities also influence which scientific questions receive attention. Researchers are human; they respond to incentives like anyone else. When funding agencies emphasize certain outcomes—say, impacts, risks, and worst-case scenarios—it’s not surprising that those areas see the most activity. More mundane questions, such as refining baseline measurements or exploring natural variability, tend to attract less attention despite their importance.

Media coverage amplifies this dynamic. Nuance doesn’t travel well in headlines. A study suggesting modest uncertainty doesn’t generate clicks; a projection of dramatic change does. Over time, this skews public perception, giving the impression of greater consensus and precision than the underlying science necessarily supports. It also discourages open debate, as dissenting views are often framed as obstruction rather than part of the normal scientific process.

There’s also the international dimension. Climate policy has become a central feature of global diplomacy, with agreements like the Paris Accord setting targets that are as much political as they are scientific. Developing nations balance economic growth against emissions constraints, while developed countries grapple with the costs of transitioning energy systems. The result is a patchwork of commitments, many of which rely on optimistic assumptions about future technology and compliance.

One of the more curious aspects of the current landscape is the level of certainty expressed in policy discussions compared to the conditional language found in technical reports. Scientific papers are filled with caveats, confidence intervals, and carefully worded conclusions. By the time those findings are translated into policy recommendations, much of that caution has been stripped away. What remains is a simplified narrative that may be easier to communicate but less faithful to the underlying evidence.

So where does that leave us?

Climate science is neither settled in the simplistic sense often portrayed nor entirely adrift. It’s a field marked by genuine advances alongside persistent uncertainties. The challenge lies in maintaining a clear boundary between what is known, what is inferred, and what is projected. Blurring those distinctions may serve short-term policy goals, but it does little to enhance long-term understanding.

A more productive approach would emphasize transparency—open data, clear methodologies, and a willingness to revisit assumptions. It would also encourage a broader range of inquiry, including studies that test prevailing models against observations without presuming their correctness. Scientific progress has always depended on questioning established ideas, not reinforcing them through repetition.

As for the politics, they’re unlikely to become less intense anytime soon. The stakes—economic, environmental, and ideological—are simply too high. But recognizing the difference between scientific evidence and political narrative would be a good place to start. Without that distinction, it becomes difficult to tell whether decisions are being driven by data or by the desire to appear aligned with it.

In the end, the climate system will do what it does, indifferent to our models and policies. Our task is to understand it as accurately as possible, acknowledging both what we know and what we don’t. That requires a level of intellectual honesty that can sometimes be in short supply when science and politics become so tightly coupled.

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April 27, 2026 10:48 pm

I cannot help but feel that if the money dried up, so would the “climate emergency”.

atticman
Reply to  Shoki
April 28, 2026 1:12 am

Yes, once it’s realised that governments are a soft touch for this sort of thing, every chancer within miles is getting in there and espousing the cause. ‘Twas ever thus, sadly…

Scissor
Reply to  atticman
April 28, 2026 4:00 am

Could I interest you in setting up a hospice center run out of a shish kebab stand?

Bob B.
Reply to  Scissor
April 28, 2026 5:13 am

Is there room for a daycare in that stand?

Scissor
Reply to  Bob B.
April 28, 2026 8:42 am

How many?

Reply to  Bob B.
April 28, 2026 10:09 am

As long as you don’t bring any children, there’s plenty of room. 😉

Reply to  Scissor
April 28, 2026 9:59 pm

Is it a Learing Center, too.

Reply to  Shoki
April 28, 2026 7:23 am

The press/media/academia is a major force behind this fraud.

Sean2828
Reply to  Shoki
April 28, 2026 10:00 am

More importantly, you need to ask what has been accomplished with the $10+ trillion dollars spent on climate policy. CO2 emissions have risen by half a billion tons per year for the last 30 years of climate alarmism. The carefully crafted distinction of developed vs developing nations just led to emissions moving from Europe and North America to Asia.

I can’t imaging an instance where so much money has been thrown at a policy that accomplished less than nothing. There needs to be a reckoning for the amount of wealth that’s been wasted.

Dieter Schultz
Reply to  Shoki
April 28, 2026 5:57 pm

I cannot help but feel that if the money dried up, so would the “climate emergency”.

I’d think that it depends on WHY ‘the money dried up‘.

If the AGW true believers believed there was a path to reopening the money spigot they would redouble their efforts until they were convinced that the money spigot was permanently closed.

But, until then, like the ‘true believers’ they are, I suspect that they will continue their fearmongering.

Denis
April 28, 2026 1:38 am

“Scientific progress has always depended on questioning established ideas, not reinforcing them through repetition.”

Or as Feynman put it “Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.”

Scissor
Reply to  Denis
April 28, 2026 4:01 am

And that’s why they are reluctant to let you see their data and methods.

April 28, 2026 2:13 am

There’s no question that the observational network is better than it was decades ago. Satellite measurements, ocean buoys, 
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

Sea level data has been manipulated to show acceleration that doesn’t exist.Actual

The Argo buoys were Corrected for Ocean Cooling almost 20 years ago

The methane propaganda continues to claim it’s a powerful green house gas. It is not

Reply to  Steve Case
April 28, 2026 5:47 am

At least we have sea level data to manipulate now.
Argo buoys and the satellites have made an improvement.

The process may still be fouled but the hardware is great.

Mr.
April 28, 2026 3:03 am

I’m happy for physicists etc to continue researching the behavior of climates on this planet and others, as academic pursuits.

But the practical field of energy sources, electricity production & distribution must be left to disciplines & practitioners such as electrical design, engineering etc.

In short, weather worriers should butt out of electricity, transport and other essentials.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Mr.
April 28, 2026 6:24 am

Amen.

Phillip Chalmers
Reply to  Mr.
April 29, 2026 4:22 pm

There is as yet no “renewable” energy source for human heavier than air flight.

April 28, 2026 3:32 am

“That requires a level of intellectual honesty that can sometimes be in short supply when science and politics become so tightly coupled.”

And all the $$$$$ involved.

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
April 28, 2026 5:17 am

Like this recent exchange …..

ZELDIN: Do you want me tell you the two biggest Supreme Court cases of the last few years are?

DELAURO: You’re here because you need money from us, so hold up for a second! Wait for the questions and answer the questions!

ZELDIN: I answered your question and you didn’t like my answer because you don’t know what Loper Bright is, what EPA vs. West Virginia is….Because you’re asking me about Section 202 of the Clean Air Act and you don’t read it, you don’t know what it says.

DELAURO: You want to deny…

ZELDIN: No, I actually read the law. I do my homework. You’re just someone who likes to have the microphone on.

DEALURO: This is the appropriations committee!

ZELDIN: Oh, you care about science and now you want to defund it? Because you don’t know what Loper Bright is, you don’t know what the Major Policies Act is.

DELAURO: I don’t have to listen to this BS!

ZELDIN: BS? You think I made up these cases?

Cullen L

Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
April 28, 2026 8:09 am

I love it when politicians and top appointees have the guts to bluntly tell the truth. Delauro is a piece of work- what with the blue hair at her age.

DeLauro
CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
April 28, 2026 9:13 am

Here is the YouTube video of the exchange (including the climate issue) between Zeldin and DeLauro.

MUST WATCH: All Hell Breaks Loose As Rosa DeLauro And Lee Zeldin Engage In Shock Hearing Clash

DeLauro is a clueless about the climate issue as many others are out there. Never argue with anyone whose hair is dyed blue or pink, especially if they have a nose ring. You will just frustrate yourself.

People like DeLauro keep treating the climate alarmist narrative as though it is infallible and unquestionable. if I understand scientific discourse correctly, trying to shut down the climate debate (or any scientific debate) is usually a sign that the issue isn’t really about the climate at all. It’s just a means to drive home an activist agenda.

It isn’t about whether the climate is changing or not (denier!). It is about how sensitive the climate is to CO2 and other GHGs, is it not?

Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
April 28, 2026 1:29 pm

DeLauro represents CT-03, aka New Haven, home of Yale University and, of course, Yale Law School. I’d be willing to bet that she receives overwhelming support from the faculty and students of both institutions, which speaks volumes about the extent of academic rot in today’s world.

April 28, 2026 3:32 am

 But improved instrumentation hasn’t eliminated uncertainty; it has simply shifted where that uncertainty resides.”

Each and every study paper on climate should include in an appendix a measurement uncertainty budget for all measurement data, including propagated uncertainty from the measurement equipment, the study uses. Without this the study authors simply can’t confirm that they actually know what their analyses of the measurement data is actually indicating. The environmental impacts on the measurement uncertainty should also be a part of uncertainty budget.

“A model tuned to match past data does not necessarily demonstrate predictive skill. As one often-cited principle in statistics reminds us, fitting known data is relatively easy; predicting unseen data is where the real test lies.”

As someone pointed out in a WUWT thread, predictive skill is demonstrated by the “predictive interval” associated with the prediction, not the confidence interval which is associated with the mean instead of the possible variation of predicted future values. It’s a cousin to the common misconception in all science today that how precisely you locate the population mean is the measurement uncertainty of the mean instead of the propagated measurement uncertainty of the population data components. Very precisely locating the mean of highly inaccurate measurements does *NOT* mean the measurement uncertainty of highly inaccurate measurements has been cancelled thus making the precisely located mean a highly accurate value. Finding the mean of a number of inaccurate climate models (the ensemble) does *not* imply that the mean of the “ensemble” is accurate.

Akin to this is the common foible of equally weighting past data with current data. All that does is track the long-term average which is of limited predictive value. Current data is far more predictive of the future than past data. My hardware store having sold 100 sharpshooter shovels in 2000 has a much smaller impact on how many shovels I will sell in 2027 than the number I sold in 2025. 2000 having a hot and rainy summer has less predictive value for the summer of 2026 than the conditions of the summer of 2025. Yet climate science weights the temperatures of 2000 equally with the temperatures of 2025. The meme of “short term trends many times become a long term trend” wasn’t developed at random.

Reply to  Tim Gorman
April 28, 2026 6:10 am

In the telephone call centers I was responsible for, forecasting call volumes and length of contact always used weighting. Yesterday, same day last week, same day last month, and same day last year, all in descending weights. Pretty much the same for future planning for revenue and expense baselines.

April 28, 2026 4:12 am

None of this is to suggest that greenhouse gases have no effect on climate. Basic radiative physics has been understood for over a century.

And “basic radiative physics” are built on a foundational assumption called “all other things held equal.” This is a caveat that renders the entire “understanding” nothing more than an academic discussion.

There is ZERO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE that “greenhouse gases,” in particular carbon dioxide, have ANY influence on the Earth’s climate. NONE. In fact, the empirical evidence says exactly the opposite – that atmospheric CO2 has no influence whatsoever.

Models are not evidence. Models do not produce data. Models merely reflect all of the incorrect assumptions fed into them. The biggest error being the assumption that “greenhouse gases” are the “driver” of the Earth’s temperature.

Reply to  AGW is Not Science
April 28, 2026 4:49 am

So, too, were “Understood” caloric, phlogiston, luminiferous ether, medical “humors”, four elements, ……………….

19 Times Scientists Were Completely Wrong Before Getting It Right

Phillip Chalmers
Reply to  Nicholas Schroeder
April 29, 2026 8:06 pm

Most of those examples are truly useful to eliminate the delusion that consensus proves reality. A good read and a few chuckles!

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
April 28, 2026 6:32 am

The original program from the UN Environmental Agency was to study the climate both natural and anthropogenic factors. Then an “official” rewrote the summary report changing no human signal in the data to a clear human signal and the future was based on determining temperature rise with increasing CO2 concentration.

CO2 is the input. IR is the transfer function. Temperature is the output.
That is not an energy equation. It is not a control loop.
Add to it the hijacking and redefining scientific and engineering terminology to socialize the bastardized science.

hdhoese
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
April 28, 2026 7:48 am

While center stage is climate behind the curtain is something called “Science Communication.” Of course it is not a science but apparently not known how widespread this is. The little I know is reading about teaching policy in science, maybe a fancy way of advertising. Most journals now advertise with “Impact Factors,”a quantitative method used to measure quality. There are papers on this system which don’t seem to have much ‘impact’ like the editorial in “Restoration Ecology: Are We Making an Impact. Restoration Ecology. 2007.15(4):597-600.”

Also I was just reading some of this which is packed with attribution bias and warnings about warming and seven inches of global sea level rise. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine. 2025. Effects of Human-Caused Greenhouse Gas Emissions on U.S. Climate, Health, and Welfare. Washington, DC: The National Academies Press. https://doi.org/10.17226/29239

Laws of Nature
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
April 28, 2026 10:26 am

Repeating yourself often does not make you right. The effect of additional CO2 in the atmosphere is well understood and measured in lab experiments and real world.
The clearest example is an average drop in the red shift of characteristic CO2 emission into space, suggesting a lower temperature of the emitting molecules coherent with an increased height.

Waste y unclear and u demonstrated is any potential feedback of those of clearly understood and measured CO2 processes in the atmosphere.

Reply to  Laws of Nature
April 28, 2026 1:22 pm

No, the atmosphere is NOT a glass bottle.

Warming from enhance atmospheric CO2 has never been observed or measured anywhere on the planet.

There is no CO2 or other human warming signature in the UAH data.

David Dibble has shown that the if there is any effect form CO2 it is like a flea bite on an elephants butt. !

Reply to  bnice2000
April 28, 2026 5:04 pm

There is no CO2 or other human warming signature in the UAH data.

There can be no human warming signature extracted from temperature only. H2O contains latent heat that is not measurable and screws up using temperature as a proxy because all heat is not measurable. In addition, climate science must deal with the intermediate substances between insolation and atmosphere, that is the oceans and land. The heat absorption, storage and inertia do affect the radiation going into the atmosphere. It isn’t as simple as saying joules in -> radiation out.

Reply to  Jim Gorman
April 29, 2026 4:50 am

 It isn’t as simple as saying joules in -> radiation out.”

In most physics a “red shift” indicates a shift in wavelength, i.e. frequency. The common Doppler shift phenomena is a perfect example.

It’s only in climate science that “red shift” typically means a decrease in the value of the radiation flux vector instead of a change in frequency. Like usual in climate science, they grab a term they apparently don’t understand and use it for a phenomenon that it doesn’t actually apply to.

Phillip Chalmers
Reply to  bnice2000
April 29, 2026 8:11 pm

as a gaseous fluid substance, atmospheric and dissolved carbon dioxide acts thermodynamically through conduction, convection and radiation all at the same time.
This presents humans with another kind of three body problem, the unsolved challenge of inventing a gravity interaction general formula.

Reply to  Laws of Nature
April 28, 2026 3:22 pm

‘The clearest example is an average drop in the red shift of characteristic CO2 emission into space, suggesting a lower temperature of the emitting molecules coherent with an increased height.’

Do you mean this red shift?:

https://realclimatescience.com/2020/04/climate-red-shift/#gsc.tab=0

Laws of Nature
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
April 29, 2026 6:48 am

No, this:
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19780026259

As for the question if CO2 has an effect in the atmosphere, science of doom has a good introduction:
https://scienceofdoom.com/2009/11/28/co2-an-insignificant-trace-gas-part-one/
“”The question asked at the start was “Is CO2 an insignificant trace gas?” and the answer is no.
CO2 and water vapor are very significant in the earth’s climate, otherwise it would be a very cold place.
What else can we conclude? Nothing really,””

Reply to  Laws of Nature
April 29, 2026 1:32 pm

No one questions that CO2 is a significant trace gas. Presumably, if its concentration falls much below 150 ppm, its sayonara for life on Earth. But as far as being the ‘control knob’ of the Earth’s climate, there’s no evidence for this in the geological record.

If you are really interested in knowing how CO2 and (mostly) WV (H2O) work to move heat from the Earth’s surface to space, lay aside the phenomenological physics from SoD and read this:

https://andymaypetrophysicist.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Shula_Ott_Collaboration_Rev_5_Multipart_For_Wuwt_16jul2024.pdf

Reply to  Laws of Nature
April 29, 2026 4:47 am

The clearest example is an average drop in the red shift of characteristic CO2 emission into space, suggesting a lower temperature of the emitting molecules coherent with an increased height.”

Wait a minute! Are you defining “red shift” as a decrease in radiation flux value? Or as an actual shift in emission frequency?

Thermal inertia in the composition of the earth will result in a decreased emission flux compared to the incoming radiative flux. The earth is *NOT* a black body. But the frequency of the emission does not change since that is determined by the geometry of the CO2 molecule.

Laws of Nature
Reply to  Tim Gorman
April 29, 2026 6:54 am

There is a clear and measured change of the stratospheric CO2 emission spectrum over time.

This effect is well modelled (additional CO2 means additional emission for higher air, the average emission height increases, the temperature of the average space-emitting CO2-molecule drops) and well verified in lab experiments, the claim that additional CO2 would do nothing to this world is therefore well disproven for more than 50 years, about time to let it go.

Reply to  Laws of Nature
April 29, 2026 10:25 am

There is a clear and measured change of the stratospheric CO2 emission spectrum over time.”

What interval of “over time”? How do you know that when was is given is an “annual average” radiative balance? Heat in joules going into the ocean may not reappear in outgoing radiative flux for literally years and quite probably decades. That being the case how can the “annual average” outgoing radiative flux balance with incoming radiative flux?

“This effect is well modelled”

Malarky! What you get out of a model is what you put into it. Measurements and observations are what count. How do you measure and observe ocean heat that may not appear for years or decades in outgoing radiation?

” the temperature of the average space-emitting CO2-molecule drops”

So what? As you put additional CO2 into the air you also have more emitting molecules at a higher height. What effect does that have on total outgoing radiation?

You spoke of a “red shift” in the emission but you *still* haven’t specified if you mean the frequency of the radiation or the amount of radiation. What determines the frequency of the emitted energy from a CO2 molecule? Is it related to the molecule temperature? Or is it set fixed upon the geometry and quantum mechanics of the molecule?

In fact, climate science tends to treat CO2 emissions as emissions from a black body whose spectrum and intensity is temperature determinate. But CO2 is *not* a BB. CO2 in the atmosphere represents a situation where quantum mechanics and Planck collide. CO2 emits at a fixed frequency based on quantum mechanics and molecule geometry. What temperature determines is how many CO2 molecules in a volume are excited sufficiently to emit – as temp goes down a smaller and smaller percentage of the CO2 molecules in a volume are excited sufficiently to emit. Thus the amount of radiation goes down for a fixed number of CO2 molecules. But it also means that more molecules in a volume will emit more total radiation because its a percentage determination. It’s very much like evaporation from water, increase the surface area of the water involved in the evaporation process and the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere goes up because the number of water molecules available for the evaporation process goes up.

My guess is that you used the term “red shift” without having a clue as to what it means when associated with climate science.

The thermodynamics of a non-BB is a TIME FUNCTION. The only balance you can find has to be over a time interval sufficient to account for all the heat in versus the heat out – in JOULES, not in joules/sec.

Laws of Nature
Reply to  Tim Gorman
May 2, 2026 5:37 pm

Sorry,..
what is actually measured is the width of an emission band of the CO2 molecules emitting into space, this width is affected by the speed distribution of those molecules which scales with the temperature aka my not precise term “red shift”, but the center of the band does not shift, only the width of the peak.

Great that we are now seem to agree that there is a changing effect due to the additional co2 measured in the real atmosphere!

If the air directly under the now emitting layer no longer does this, it warms up which also affects all air below it.

Phillip Chalmers
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
April 29, 2026 8:01 pm

One could better say, regardless of anything else, the measurement of all the energy coming into the planet and its atmosphere and the measurement of all the energy radiating OUT from all the planet and its atmosphere, if VERY ACCURATELY MEASURED, over a thirty year period would allow some idea as to whether a tiny percentage is being retained or a tiny percentage is being shed. Knowing the total capacity of the entire system would allow that to translate into change of temperature.
All three parameters are very very difficult to measure.

Reply to  Phillip Chalmers
April 30, 2026 6:42 am

A thirty year interval is not sufficient. Heat absorbed by the ocean may not appear as emitted energy to space for a century or more. It doesn’t matter how accurately you measure the in/out radiative flux, the heat in/out remains a *time* function where the flux in and the flux out have different time coefficients.

April 28, 2026 4:22 am

Developing nations balance economic growth against emissions constraints, while developed countries grapple with the costs of transitioning energy systems.

No, in large part they are rightfully ignoring pointless “emission constraints” since such “constraints” are economic suicide.

And developed nations are “transitioning” nothing – they are just squandering resources on worse-than-useless crap that CANNOT “replace” anything.

April 28, 2026 4:34 am

“None of this is to suggest that greenhouse gases have no effect on climate. Basic radiative physics has been understood for over a century. The question has always been one of magnitude, feedbacks, and the relative importance of natural variability.”

The physics of the general circulation has been understood sufficiently over the same time period to have resulted in computed representations that answer the question of magnitude. The incremental IR absorbing power of the 2XCO2 case is vanishingly weak within the proper context of dynamic energy conversion throughout the depth of the troposphere. This is why I keep posting about the ERA5 hourly parameter “vertical integral of energy conversion.”

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PDJP3F3rteoP99lR53YKp2fzuaza7Niz?usp=drive_link

Does a rising concentration of CO2 even ACT as a “forcing” to which a “feedback” response should be expected within the atmosphere + land + ocean system? How would you ever tell? There is no justification for conceding this framing of the scientific question at the outset of an investigation of “climate” sensitivity to emissions. But here we are, having too willingly accepted this initial framing, which is the starting point on the circular path of attribution.

What to do at this point? Stop conceding the core claim that ANY of the reported “warming” at the surface can be reliably attributed to incremental CO2 and the other IR-active trace gases. The “no effect on climate” null hypothesis has not been rejected by any reliable means we have available to us.

Thank you for your patient understanding on this matter.

Reply to  David Dibbell
April 28, 2026 4:51 am

There is no “extra” GHE back radiation because there is no upwelling BB. So called measurements are figments of precisely calibrated imagination.

By definition a BB must emit all it absorbs.
Absorbed = 160
Emitted = 17 + 80 + 63 (not BB)

Physical emissivity 1 = 63/160 = 0.39 (for heat balances)
Theoretical emissivity 2 at 16 C = 63/396 = 0.16 (For correcting IR instruments)

Because of the significant (60% per TFK_bams09) non-radiative, i.e. kinetic, heat transfer processes of the contiguous participating atmospheric molecules the surface cannot upwell “extra” energy as a near Black Body. 
As demonstrated by experiment, the gold standard of classical science.
For the experimental write up see:
https://principia-scientific.org/debunking-the-greenhouse-gas-theory-with-a-boiling-water-pot/
or search: “Bruges group “boiling water pot” Schroeder”

K-T-Handout
Reply to  Nicholas Schroeder
April 28, 2026 5:38 am

A black body has several pertinent assumptions.

  1. Isothermal, no internal temperature gradient.
  2. the entire surface radiates at the same intensity
  3. absorbed energy is immediately emitted

The earth meets none of these. Everything that happens in the biosphere creates internal temperature gradients. No where on the Earth is the same intensity of radiation emitted, not even on the ocean surface. And the vast array of different specific heats associated the corresponding composition of the earth means that absorbed energy is not immediately emitted.

The radiative balance theory is based on black body characteristics. That makes it totally non-physical as far as Earth and the biosphere is concerned. Thus there is no way to actually use the RTT theory to estimate any radiative “balance”.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Tim Gorman
April 28, 2026 6:34 am

Engineering materials sciences has made precise measurements.
The T^4 can be used but with explicit constraints, some of which you talk about.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
April 28, 2026 7:29 am

Emissivity must be correctly applied.
Hardly anybody knows how to do this.

Reply to  Nicholas Schroeder
April 28, 2026 7:30 am

Second model.

Back-graphic
Reply to  Nicholas Schroeder
April 28, 2026 7:32 am

Reposted

Emissivity
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
April 28, 2026 7:52 am

Land is a heat sink. It has a conduction gradient, not isothermal. It has heat inertia.

Oceans are a heat sink. They have conduction gradients and are not isothermal. They have heat inertia.

All of this affects radiative transfer. As you say there are also multiple factors as to exposure and absorption.

Until I began investigating soil temperatures, which is where IR basically occurs, I didn’t realize the delay factors associated with insolation, land and atmosphere. I suspect oceans are similar. I expect to see some thermocline changes similar to what land experiences.

All these vary radiation going out and using averages destroys the internal variations that indicate uncertainty.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
April 28, 2026 9:51 am

T^4 is just part of the issue. Just make it “T^v”. It doesn’t matter what “v” is, it could be “3.6” or something else. What is important is the time lag that determines when the resultant outgoing Em(s) waves are emitted by the earth and what interval the EM waves occupy. If an EM wavefront hits the earth at time t1 that doesn’t mean that it turns around and emits the same value immediately.

That makes measuring the actual response to incoming flux almost impossible to actually measure. How do you relate current incoming flux to outgoing flux that can happen at a later time with a different intensity?

What’s important is the total joules in and the total joules out and for identifying “balance” you need to use a time interval that encompasses both the driver and the response.

Reply to  David Dibbell
April 28, 2026 1:52 pm

Well said, David. We should always oppose alarmists whenever they deceitfully compose a null hypothesis around the false premise that CO2 emissions from the use of fossil fuels will adversely effect the Earth’s climate.

hiskorr
Reply to  David Dibbell
April 28, 2026 8:29 pm

David, I admire your continued patience with those who continue to misunderstand your work!

As for me, I comprehend “basic radiative physics” as follows:
Starting with a body in radiative balance- Incoming energy = outgoing energy =E,
Add energy, e, necessary to increase the radiating surface temperature by one percent (~3K) (specific heat roughly constant). The energy balance becomes- incoming energy = E+e < outgoing energy = E+1.04e! This T^4 factor is the most significant negative feedback effect stabilizing the Earth’s surface temperature! It also is the most obvious reason why the Earth’s outgoing radiative energy (with polar midnight temp constantly 200K and tropic noon temp constantly 300K) cannot be usefully studied with GAT anomalies.

The fact that I can quibble about your description of “energy conversion” in no way disputes your conclusion that the case for the CO2 Climate Control Knob is “vanishingly weak”. Well done!

hiskorr
Reply to  hiskorr
April 28, 2026 8:34 pm

Obviously, I should have spelled out “at”. She really wasn’t!

Reply to  hiskorr
April 29, 2026 6:25 am

Thank you for your supportive reply.

“The fact that I can quibble about your description of “energy conversion”…”
It’s not my description. I’m just using the well-established framework of terminology about physical concepts from within the meteorological discipline, in the context of numerical modeling of the general circulation. If instead I were to agree, for example, with your quibbling about the rotating reference frame, then we would both be wrong.

So I encourage you to get “un-stuck” about the validity of the ERA5 computations of kinetic, internal, potential, and latent energy and how they relate to one another dynamically.

Oh, and yes, agreed – the dependence of radiative emission on T^4 is indeed a fundamental reason to have zero concern about the climate system response to incremental CO2.

Be well.

April 28, 2026 4:45 am

One erroneous & useless climate model.
Eight different “experts.”
Eight different sets of numbers. 
Albedo has a 23 W/m^2 uncertainty band.
Seven show OLR with a cooling “forcing”, one says warming.
Author says seven are wrong & his is correct.

K-T-Balance-w-8-Models
Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Nicholas Schroeder
April 28, 2026 6:37 am

The model is that of a flat earth. All m^2 of surface are simultaneous illuminated with the same solar EM radiation, no accounting for spherical geometry (affects the optical depth of the atmosphere, surface reflection, angle of reflection, angle of incidence) and it presumes a smooth surface devoid of any terrain features or flora.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
April 28, 2026 11:09 am

No, it’s not.
It’s Fourier’s ball suspended in an averaged bucket of warm poo which even Pierrhumbert says is no good.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
April 28, 2026 11:26 am

As far as the Sun is concerned the Earth is a flat pin head heated at 1,368 W/m^2.

Dividing discular ISR by 4 to average 342 over a spherical ToA is a dumb thang to do.

The lit hemisphere is heated, heat is lost in all directions 24/7 the lit/hot hemisphere losing faster than dark.

Any way you cut it TFK_bams09 is garbage as are /all the clones and when they go in the trash bin they take GHE & CAGW with.

Albedo-Heat-Cool-081921-lit-face
observa
April 28, 2026 4:55 am

Scientists pulled a 3-million-year-old climate mystery out of Antarctic ice, and it looks all wrong

ScienceAlert covered the research and noted that the work suggests ice-sheet growth and survival may have been exquisitely sensitive to minuscule changes in carbon dioxide, or that past climate shifts were driven by something else entirely.

Reply to  observa
April 28, 2026 5:57 am

The reason is that ice cores are smoothed.

CO2 is trapped in the ice (after half a century or so of fern being crushed by weight of new snow).
But that does not mean that the gas stays trapped in the same place.

CO2 dissolves in liquid water. Ice becomes liquid water when it melts (this is advanced chemistry to the ice core samplers).

Ice crystals vibrate when the wind blows over them. Vibrations will cause resonances that melt the ice up and down the glacier’s depth, and quickly reseal again as it is cold (this is advanced physics to the ice core samplers).

This melting happens very rarely. But there is a lot of time for these events to happen over 3 million years.

So CO2 concentrations are smoothed in ice cores.
Peaks are lowered and troughs raised.
And this effect becomes more pronounced the further back in time you go.

Reply to  MCourtney
April 28, 2026 8:05 am

Just like Tavg = (Tmax + Tmin) / 2. Peaks are lowered and troughs are raised. Variation is the only statistical metric that describes the variation.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  observa
April 28, 2026 6:38 am

At least they included alternative explanations as possible.

April 28, 2026 5:53 am

Nice article Anthony.

Some thoughts.

Surface temperature records, for example, remain subject to adjustments, homogenization techniques, and ongoing revisions. Each of those steps may be justified individually, yet the cumulative effect introduces a level of opacity that deserves scrutiny rather than automatic trust.

Official data series should never be adjusted, homogenized, or revised. Checked for errors, yes, and a common process for modifying those should be used. My preference is to simply scrub them. One day here and there in decades or centuries will not be able to be discerned.

Adjusting, homogenizing, and revising the “official” data is the start of making the uncertainty opaque to folks who use it. In too many cases, even here, warmists treat the official data as 100% accurate and assign no uncertainty to it. It should be up to individuals using the data, to make the changes they perceived as appropriate, discuss their methods, and apply uncertainty correctly.

The question has always been one of magnitude, feedbacks, and the relative importance of natural variability.

Climate science has, with blinders on, stubbornly concentrated on average daily temperatures. “(Tmax + Tmin)/2” is not an average. It is a metric that was used when little data was available.

Tradition has no place in science. It kept climate science from recognizing the lengthening of growing seasons due to the change in first and last frost dates because of increasing Tmin temperatures. It took Ag science to find this. As far as I know, official climate science sources have never acknowledged this and modified their reliance on daily average temperatures. They probably have never done this because it would hurt the “burning up” mantra of CAGW. Climate science should begin analyzing Tmax and Tmin separately. We have decades of automatic data records. There is little reason to claim daily averages are useful.

Climate science treats radiative processes as “in -> out” with no change in between. Oceans can store heat for days, weeks, months, or decades. Land can store heat for days, months, and maybe years. When was the last climate science paper you read that attempted to determine these effects on the radiative processes at play in Earth’s overall climate?

Climate science is neither settled in the simplistic sense often portrayed nor entirely adrift. It’s a field marked by genuine advances alongside persistent uncertainties.

Climate science never acknowledges uncertainty. When was the last time you saw a NASA graph portray uncertainty with error bars or at least a statement of the ± values that are inherent. That would give the impression that science doesn’t really know the correct answer wouldn’t it. Temperatures to the one thousandths decimal place infer knowledge that is not really available from the measurements actually taken. Pseudoscience!

Quondam
April 28, 2026 6:14 am

“Let’s begin with the science itself…. Climate models have grown more complex… but complexity is not the same as accuracy.”

It’s my impression that the balance of WUWT discussion has shifted from science to schadenfreude. Our self-styled ‘climate scientists’ have been quite successful convincing non-believers that global warming is a most complex subject.

My own thesis has been that warming is no more than a consequence of free energy dissipation and even a trivial linear dissipation description, sans mention of radiation or convection, suffices to allay CO2 doubling fears (0.82K). Interestingly, the DOE report (2025) makes no mention of free energy or dissipation.

 “Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.” — Albert Einstein 

Laws of Nature
April 28, 2026 7:50 am

While there is always hope for the next model generation and I do believe that CESM3 will be a lot better than it’s predecessors, it is noteworthy that CMIP6 models have clearly shown that older models have insufficient resolution and lacking physics.
These findings now need to be incorporated if the results of older models are discussed. Any discussion or application of older results without this is neglect of now well known sources of uncertainty.

Many if not all CMIP6 models contain relevant coding errors
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2025MS004967
“”An inappropriate ice number limiter in the CESM2 microphysics scheme was discovered,””

And if course it is unclear if their resolution and physics was good enough (there are newer model indicating a clear NO! for both!)

As scientific and political statements rely on those climate models, it is imperative that these easy facts are included – for example you can see presentations of older model results over at RealClimate NOT showing the increased uncertainty steming from lacking resolution and wrong physics we now know about.
It comes down to wrong models being quite useless and downplaying their known issues being fraud.

April 28, 2026 9:05 am

…and taking stock of where things actually stand.

OK. How about “All efforts everywhere on earth for 40 years to reduce atmospheric CO2 have failed.”

It’s a true statement as measured by the Mauna Loa observatory.

April 28, 2026 9:30 am

Very nice article, Anthony, but for these two items:

‘None of this is to suggest that greenhouse gases have no effect on climate’.

This is a minor nit, as there is little doubt that GHGs, especially water vapor, drive the tropospheric convection that ultimately maintain the Earth’s climate. Hence, this sentence hides the real issue of whether or not CO2 emissions from the burning of fossil fuels could affect the Earth’s climate, which to date has not found any support in the geological record provided by ice or carbonate cores.

‘Basic radiative physics has been understood for over a century’.

This statement, I believe, is very open to question given that many well-regarded physicists were (are) highly skeptical of the actual physical basis underlying radiative transfer theory (RTT), and its applications in climate modeling and in measuring the Earth’s so-called energy imbalance (EEI).

Reply to  Frank from NoVA
April 30, 2026 6:33 am

Indeed, it’s probably more accurate to say that “imaginary radiative physics has been misunderstood for over a century”, but only by non-physicists, of course.

Bob
April 28, 2026 2:09 pm

I have a notion that if the government were prohibited from funding climate science the science would change.

Rick Wedel
April 29, 2026 6:04 am

Thanks for this article. The politicians pushing Net Zero understand that the science and the models are very uncertain beyond the basic physics. They can do the the basic arithmetic and know that reducing all human caused CO2 emissions can have little if any impact on the earth’s temperature, but it was never about saving the world from heat stroke. For them, it’s about power, money and control. The truly disappointing aspect to this whole charade is the vast number of people who buy this nonsense and are willing to destroy western economies for something they have very little understanding of.

Neo
April 29, 2026 3:23 pm

Al Gore: All of My Predictions from An Inconvenient Truth About Greenland and the Arctic Completely Losing Their Ice Were “Proven Dead Right;” and BTW, Now I’m Warning About a Coming Ice Age (Which Will Also Not Happen)
It is interesting that when the “elites” thought there would be a reckoning with “peak oil” they found it useful to create this regime that CO2 was dangerous and it could create a great opportunity for trillions of dollars of grift. Now, that it has been established that AI is really, really important, CO2 is no longer a problem because the climate magically is now going cold which supports the new grift of trillions of dollars of investments in AI and supporting infrastructure.