Wind power may be branded as “clean,” but that label rings hollow when turbines are shredding apex raptors that anchor entire ecosystems.
U.S. Department of the Interior
Posted by Leslie Eastman
Legal Insurrection has previously reported on the growing record of eagle deaths at wind facilities nationwide, where spinning blades have been tied to dozens of documented bald and golden eagle fatalities and multimillion‑dollar settlements with major wind operators.
Now an Obama-era University of Minnesota wind‑energy research project is under fire after a campus turbine struck and killed a bald eagle, leaving the national symbol gruesomely dismembered beneath the tower.
The University of Minnesota is facing a proposed penalty of over $14,000 after it was discovered that a green energy initiative funded by a grant from the Obama administration was responsible for the gruesome death of an American bald eagle.
The incident occurred at the University of Minnesota’s Eolos Wind Energy Research Field Station in Dakota County, Minnesota.
Photos obtained by Fox News Digital show the moment a University of Minnesota wind turbine struck the bald eagle, dismembering it into three pieces and leaving a bloodied carcass on the floor below.
The violation notice says the university violated the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act by killing the eagles without what is called an “incidental take permit.”
The turbines did quite a number on the poor bird.
According to a Department of the Interior violation notice reviewed by Fox News Digital, the university was aware that bird collisions were a danger and was in the process of testing its collision detection sensors when the incident occurred.
The eagle’s remains were discovered in pieces. The lower torso and tail were found by technicians first, while the head and wings were not found until over a month later.
Following the incident, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service sent the university a letter, urging the institution to reassess the turbine’s danger to eagles and to consider applying for a long-term permit for incidental take of eagles. However, the January notice of violation issued by the DOI does not indicate that the university has since obtained any such permit.
This would be only one of several wind projects currently facing fines due to the slaughter of raptors, the tragic result of Obama’s push for “renewable” energy and legacy.
The Minnesota turbine is a part of the university’s Eolos Wind Energy Research Consortium, a wind-energy research collaboration. The construction of the turbine was funded by a $7.9 million grant from the Obama Department of Energy awarded in 2010, according to local outlet the Minnesota Daily.
One of former President Barack Obama’s first major legislative achievements was the passage of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA), which according to a report by the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions, appropriated an “unprecedented $90 billion to ‘lay the foundation for a clean energy economy of the future,’ of which the U.S. Department of Energy received $35.2 billion.”
The Minnesota incident is not the only such killing to have occurred in recent years.
In November, Fox News Digital reported on FWS proposing hefty fines on renewable energy company Ørsted Onshore North America for two bald eagle kills by wind turbines in Nebraska and Illinois. In January, FWS issued notice of finalized fines of a total of $32,340 for the two eagles killed by Ørsted turbines.
Wind power may be branded as “clean,” but that label rings hollow when turbines are shredding apex raptors that anchor entire ecosystems. A truly sustainable energy policy must account for the full environmental cost, including the silent toll on bald and golden eagles that regulate prey populations and signal the health of the landscapes we claim to be saving.
Until regulators and policymakers confront the reality that these projects are wiping out key predators in the natural food chain, it is dishonest to market this form of power as environmentally benign.
Perhaps the decimal points of these fines should be moved to the right two or three times.
I’m stunned it is so small.
The location of the Wind Turbines is less that 15 miles from a major Bald Eagle habitat just south of the Minneapolis metroplex and in somewhat low land 10-12 miles from the Mississippi river . So of course , lots of Bald Eagles are going to get killed.
Bald eagles primary diet is fish. The stretch along the Mississippi river, especially near La Croix Wisconsin is a major habitat for Bald eagles.
“Bald eagles primary diet is fish.”
That may be the case in warmer weather when the creeks, streams and rivers aren’t frozen over and fish are plentiful. But, at lease here in eastern West Virginia with everything frozen over, they appear to be carrion eaters. Lately, I’ve seen them on everything from dead deer to roadkill rabbits. Guess they haven’t learned about ice fishing yet :<)
Mississippi River flow and major tributaries creates large ice free areas through out the winter in southern Minnesota. City of Wabasha is a great place to see dozens of eagles gathered around Chippewa River- Mississippi River confluence. Near where Grumpy Old Men movie was filmed
“Grisly”…Get it right, please…”causing horror, terror, or superstitious dread…” How about making someone, or more, PERSONALLY LIABLE…and multiply that fine by ten times..?
Grizzly? Bald eagles don’t die as grizzlies do.
Gristly, please.
And here I thought Polar Bears have problems.
Grisly or Grizzly are both valid but gristly isn’t.
If one refers to horror.
Not if one refers to gristle; which appears to be what the eagle became.
Grizzly refers to a type of bear, grisly would be correct for the title.
gristly, adj.: consisting of or full of gristle.
They are called bird Cuisinarts for good reason.
Why are wind turbines allowed an incidental take permit at all? Why are environmentalists not protesting this in the streets?
The simple answer is that they are terribly conflicted between the immediate deaths of these and other birds versus the threat of climate change. It shows something really disfunctional in the human mind when a hypothetical threat far in the future looms large over an immediate problem — never give such thinkers any power at all.
I had a mechanical engineering colleague tell me, in response to my complaints about this topic, that some biology faculty member had convinced him all birds would be soon dead if we didn’t adopt wind energy pronto — faculty teaching your children.
A mechanical engineering faculty member convinced by a biology faculty member of bird extinction by thermageddon ? That doesn’t seem possible, Kevin…
Since a mechanical engineer should easily be able to calculate that 4 watts/M^2 of 2XCO2 is so insignificant in the hundreds of watts of total atmospheric column kinetic energy per m^2, mostly convection and advection, that it will just get radiated to outer space with barely measurable effect at surface….
You are 100% correct Mr Bill. (did I live in Pascagoula too long ? )
No permits , and double the fine each time they repeat the crime .
There is no dissent amongst the left.
Literally 0%.
They’ve been totally Borg’d and follow the big narrative no matter how much and how obvious the contradictions are.
Be it the feminists, who after 50 years of radicalism and protesting patriarchy didn’t say
a word about the takeover of female sports by crazy men.
Not a word about toxic masculinity.
As soon as the narrative changed they followed like Lemmings.
Almost all resistance came from the conservative side.
The Anti-War movement.
As soon as Obama continued the Bush Wars they were fine with it.
And the environmentalists?
They were unusually silent when half a million tons of methane pollutted the sea and the atmosphere and the climate they love so much(that’s why we know that Ukraine did not blow up North Stream , but those who control the narrative).
Why should they give a crap about an Eagle then?
They will instantly start riots and protests when the masters of the narrative (or Soros paycheck) trigger their activism, but until then they will use their superpowers ignorance, confusion,apathy
and intoxication to look away.
They are allowed because there is a bogus Obama era program that claims to offset every wind eagle kill with saving at least one eagle life from electrocution.
See my https://www.cfact.org/2025/06/29/cfact-report-feds-fail-to-offset-wind-turbine-eagle-kills/
So the bogus offset program must be stopped.
More than bogus
Electrocutions are due to powerlines. renewables require more powerlines, thus an increase in electrocutions
Nononono. Get with the program. We must spend an ever increasing amount of taxpayer dollars to add to the power lines technology that prevents electrocution. So increasing the quantity of power lines means more taxpayer dollars and with that the “10% for the big guy” all around.
“Why are environmentalists not protesting this in the streets?”
Because they DON’T CARE.
They don’t care or they are not being paid to do so.
The flip side of this question is how they are allowed to operate at all without an incidental take permit? In the real world, industrial power sources must have ITPs to avoid the risk of being shut down if there is a “take.”
Because they are not Spotted Owls.
You have to butcher the wildlife to save the wildlife – and the planet.
It really is Communist ideology applied to the environment .
The Obama administration, and then followed by Biden, did all they could to smooth the waters for wind and solar. Eagles are protected by two Federal laws enacted long ago. The Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1916 or some other and the Bald and Golden Eagle Protection Act of 1940. The Biden administration watered the Migratory Bird act down so severely that under present interpretation wind developers can’t be held responsible for violations of the Migratory Bird act because their wind turbines are not designed specifically to kill birds.
In other words, hunting the birds is about all that really applies as a violation now — overturning a century of enforcement. Reading the internal discussions at FWS about writing new regulation interpretation which was published in September of 2023, I think, the FWS employees are very uncomfortable about tailoring the law to the needs of wind developers.
“wind developers can’t be held responsible for violations of the Migratory Bird act because their wind turbines are not designed specifically to kill birds.”
Cars & trucks are not designed specifically to kill people, but if you kill someone, you are prosecuted.
So why can’t drivers apply for a long-term permit for incidental take of people, to save the cost & bother of court cases ??.
You could limit the take to say 5 per year before prosecution, but an automatic prosecution for a driver without a permit.
Suitably cynical, sir. I salute your analogy!
“wind developers can’t be held responsible for violations of the Migratory Bird act because their wind turbines are not designed specifically to kill birds.”
Nuclear plants with once-thru cooling are not designed specifically to kill fish, but they have to take a lot of expensive care to minimize the harm to fish and fish eggs and other important species that the fish are dependent on. Many of them have had to install cooling towers, which are very expensive to build and operate.
I seem to remember one plant that was fined for birds that fell into some sort of cooling ponds on-site, and they were fined for that. They were required to install covers on the ponds that kept out the birds.
Grizzly Death Not
BBC presenter Chris Packham has been accused of ‘harassing’ trail hunters as he spent five hours sharing footage of what he called their ‘medieval savagery’.
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British Hound Sports Association managing director Olly Hughes told the Telegraph: ‘Trail hunting is lawful, yet he repeatedly portrays it as criminal without evidence. That is intimidation, not debate.
‘For someone so closely associated with the BBC, this behaviour raises serious questions about impartiality
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15541787/Chris-Packham-BBC-stepdaughter-huntsmen-saboteurs-Dorset-hunt.html
It’s painfully ironic, considering the bald eagle is the symbol of the United States of America. Such a majestic creature, slaughtered by a stupid, empty-headed machine. It perfectly reflects the times we live in.
Because I live in a very wild part of the U.S. this subject affects me greatly. I live in the Central Flyway for migratory birds, and among birds that migrate are the Golden Eagle. An acquaintance of mine has tracked Golden eagles via GPS tags from Western Canada into Central Mexico. They are truly snowbirds. The Central flyway is important because it has traditionally been relatively undeveloped (wild) with few impediments to migration. Now unfortunately we are blanketing the countryside with wind plants.
Some of these are incredibly badly sited. Just one example will serve to illuminate the point. PacifiCorp (through its subsidiary Rocky Mountain Power) now own the Rock Creek I and II wind plants. These are sited on the lower ground between the Medicine Bow to the south and to the north by the Shirley and Freeze Out mountains; and is right on the flyway between Pathfinder National Wildlife Preserve in central Wyoming and the Bamforth National Wildlife Preserve just northwest of Laramie. It is like a cattle chute forcing the wildlife toward these wind plants that cover hundreds of square miles. There is no argument anyone makes regarding the externalities of “renewable” energy that will deter the developers or our public officials. And PacifiCorp, as I recall, got hit some years ago millions of dollars for killing Bald Eagles at some other Wyoming wind plants.
CO2 hysteria combined with Federal subsidies have made people stupid.
I understand perfectly. The people who plant these things across the countryside are absolutely ignorant of the wild world, which they nevertheless seem to largely prefer to the “modern” world. Put an environmentalist in front of a Kodiak bear, and watch it decompose into mush. I’m talking about the Kodiak, obviously. He will never have seen anything as dismaying, in his life as a bear, as an environmentalist.
This is another issue (although also related to far left ideas), but I often hear feminists say that they would rather be in a room with a bear than with a man. Well, I don’t know a single bear who would be willing to spend even five minutes locked up with one of these women! Joking aside, it’s quite paradoxical: on the one hand these people idealize nature, and, on the other, they put in place supposedly virtuous systems that ruin the fauna, flora and landscapes.
Here is my opinion, which I believe to be reasonable, although I much prefer city comfort to the harshness of a life far from the city and shops: respecting nature means above all being aware that, although magnificent, it is dangerous and merciless, and behaving accordingly. When you are alone in the forest, it is the forest that dictates its rules; same thing for the mountains or the open sea. And I’m not a forester, a mountaineer, a sailor, or even vaguely adventurous, but thinking that nature is “good” is worthy of the Darwin Awards. Let these leftists try to cuddle little bears they meet on a path, and then, then, let them explain with the mother of the cubs, her more than limited patience, her instinct for self-preservation, and her 15-centimeter claws.
PV solar panels can make sense….their output can match local air conditioning load on hot sunny afternoons especially if you have free real estate…windmills are just too intermittent requiring constant on-call rapid start 100% backup so aren’t viable unless you big-fudge the numbers by pretending you don’t need backup (in which case you didn’t need the windmills to start with)
I admit to being baffled by what you say. Yet, I hear it from others too.
Peak solar output on a clear day is close to noon local, but due to weather and tracking the peak output runs 1200 to 1600 or 1700 hours on different days. You can see it in EIA data. Peak air con load occurs later due to combination of thermal transport delay and people hitting the air con when they return home from work the EIA data shows a demand peaking around 2000 in CAISO or 1700 to 1900 in Florida. But solar output fades rapidly so peak generation from gas plants occurs much later even as late as 2100-2200 hours in Florida.
After 2 full weeks, the SV on rooftops in my neighborhood are still white with snow and ice.
“the symbol of the United States of America”
… killed by guillotines of Chinese manufacture….
I find that terribly sad.
In France, eco-leftists are also great admirers of Robespierre-style head cutters. I’m sure they would like the idea of a “cleaver mill”, to get rid of their opponents. I am even convinced that they would agree to run it on gasoline, for efficiency reasons, instead of waiting for the wind to pick up…
STORY TIP
Unsurprisingly, climate alarmism arrives at the Winter Olympics in Italy…..
Olympic town Cortina warms up amid climate change threat to Winter Games
“The timing of winter, the amount of snowfall and temperatures are all less reliable and less predictable because Earth is warming at a record rate, said Shel Winkley, a Climate Central meteorologist. This poses a growing and significant challenge for organizers of winter sports; The International Olympic Committee said last week it could move up the start date for future Winter Games to January from February because of rising temperatures.
While the beginning of the 2026 Olympic Winter Games in Cortina truly had a wintry feel, as the town was blanketed in heavy snow. The temperature reached about 40 degrees Fahrenheit Sunday afternoon. It felt hotter in the sun.
This type of February “warmth” for Cortina is made at least three times more likely due to climate change, Winkley said. In the 70 years since Cortina first held the Winter Games, February temperatures there have climbed 6.4 degrees Fahrenheit, he added.”
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Earth is warming at a record rate? Has Winkley ever heard of the Younger Dryas?
Honestly, not even the Olympics are safe from this campaign of scaremongering B.S. anymore.
Wind farms are like strippers.
they quit working when you quit throwing money at them!
Although I can’t really say that I KNOW that (my wife is listening) I did enjoy the analogy.
“leaving the national symbol gruesomely dismembered beneath the tower.”
The national symbol. Given that the prior two demoncrat administrations wanted to, in their words, “fundamentally transform America”, this comes as no surprise. They’ll shred our national symbol and our Constitution in the pursuit of their Marxist agenda.
No mention of the so-called “Black National Anthem”???
Although a Bald Eagle could experience a grizzly death, I think this one is a grisly death.
How does a permit save the eagles?
The conjecture (not hypothesis or theory) is that the permit exchanges death by obscenity for death by electrocution.
“the university was aware that bird collisions were a danger”
Should I believe this?
yes the university was aware of the danger. As I noted above, the location is on the edge of a large habitat for bald eagles.
why not? wind farms in wyoming get “take” permits
“the university was aware that bird collisions were a danger and was in the process of testing its collision detection sensors when the incident occurred.”
What would the sensors do? Stop the turbine immediately, yell “warning, warning”?
Perhaps stop using the word “clean” for these atrocious installations.
Might I suggest “Killer Windturbines”
Note that not one of the resident climate trolls has commented on this topic. !
You were saying ….
Actually just people providing some inconvenient facts you do not want to know, least it endangers your confirmation bias, that this place provides you.
Facts? Gave me a belly laugh with that.
Now shall we do a comparison of bird mortaity due to wind turbines and animal/bird deaths due the oil industry ?
After all we need to appreciate the scale of the mortality involved vs the status quo that pertains as a result of oil extraction, transport and refining.
And all unnatural animal deaths are bad, whatever the cause
AI Overview
Wind turbines cause an estimated 140,000 to over 500,000 bird deaths annually in the United States, with some estimates exceeding 1 million as the industry grows. While significant, this number is orders of magnitude lower than other human-related causes, such as cats (hundreds of millions to billions), building collisions (hundreds of millions), and vehicles.
AI Overview:
Estimates of animal deaths directly caused by oil extraction and refinement vary widely depending on whether they account for acute disasters (spills) or chronic, daily, and often unreported pollution.
Key, documented, and estimated annual impacts include:
Oil Pits (USA): An estimated 500,000 to 1 million birds die each year in the United States alone due to falling into open oil pits.
Routine Pollution: Over 1 million seabirds and 100,000 marine mammals are killed by oil pollution every year worldwide.
Illegal Discharges: An estimated 300,000 seabirds are killed annually in the North Atlantic (Grand Banks) alone due to illegal oil discharge from ships.
Chronic Exposure: Beyond acute oil spills, constant, low-level release of hydrocarbons in the sea has a significant effect on the survival and reproduction of seabirds and marine mammals.
Impact of Major Oil Spills (Example: Deepwater Horizon)
Major, high-profile accidents cause massive, immediate, and long-term damage that is not factored into yearly routine estimates:
Birds: 600,000 to 800,000+ coastal seabirds.
Marine Mammals: Estimated 5,000+ (including dolphins).
Sea Turtles: 5,700 to 6,100+.
Fish: Up to 5 trillion (larvae and newly hatched).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16988870/#:~:text=Based%20on%20Forensics%20Laboratory%20and,birds%20in%20the%20United%20States.
https://www.wilderness.org/articles/blog/7-ways-oil-and-gas-drilling-bad-environment#:~:text=6.,can%20be%20deadly%20to%20animals&text=Big%20oil%20spills%20are%20big,and%20ingestion%20of%20toxic%20chemicals.
https://uk.oceana.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2023/04/InDeepWater-Report-Edited-LowRes.pdf
“cats”
That estimations in that claim have been efficiently and thoroughly debunked.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9794845/
Domestic cats do considerably less damage than free ranging cats and free ranging cats are natural causes not human causes. Predators and prey are natural.Windmills do not eat their prey. Windmills are not natural.
The article is about eagles. How many of those other causes take eagles?
While there is a level of validity to other bird deaths due to the listed causes, that does not justify adding yet another killer.
“And all unnatural animal deaths are bad, whatever the cause”
I suppose that includes livestock raised for food. Funny that those animals would never have been born had it not been for the need to harvest them for food.
Look! Squirrel!
I did, and that’s what I found.
Sorry if the facts are inconvenient.
You are not (a) sorry and you do not deal in (b) facts.
You republish propaganda with the deliberate purpose of evoking a negative emotional response. You are a flame warrior.
Do not trust the numbers.
All birds die, many from natural causes. If they die next to a road, cars killed them. If they die next to a tar pit, the oil industry killed them. If they die naturally while in flight and hit city buildings on the way down, the buildings killed them.
BUT. When they are found dead and dismembered below the blades of a turning windmill, it is hard to show natural causes were involved.
Where is the expected category of bird deaths from natural end of life in these statistical calculations? Birds are also allowed to die peacefully in their sleep. Geoff S
I have my doubts that an apex predator with exceptionally keen eyesight and presumably intimate understanding of its home area, just didn’t see it coming.
I see birds seemingly intentionally flying in front of my car and dodging out of the way at the last second frequently.
Nature is unforgiving. As soon as an animal cant evade its predators, its toast.
“I have my doubts that an apex predator with exceptionally keen eyesight and presumably intimate understanding of its home area, just didn’t see it coming.”
The blade tip speed of a wind turbine can be upward of 200kph !
There’s also a vacuum effect that takes them by surprise and draws them in. That’s probably the biggest reason.
Only if they’re flying close to begin with.
And why wouldn’t they if they were incorrectly confident that they could avoid them? The problem is they can’t perceive the danger.
Or they simply make a mistake, a bit like a bird flying into a window. Either way, natural selection is going to evolve them to cope.
WOW, you don’t seem to understand the difference between a stationary window.. and a blade tip travelling at 200kph.
That is very “strange”
Both man made. Both result in the same result, a dead bird. In both cases, the bird was too stupid to survive.
In what respect does the difference matter?
How many eagles are killed by flying into windows?
None reported.
Try running into a parked car..
Try being hit by a car going 200kph that you didn’t even see..
Which do you think is more likely to “damage” you irreparably !
“Either way, natural selection is going to evolve them to cope.”
That as simply stated is true. However it totally ignores the limited population size and the declining population due to this cause. It takes generations for the genetic contributions of those with the innate talent you suggest to inoculate the entire population with their genes. It seems based on reproduction rates and “take” rates that extinction occurs before species survival is genetically improved.
Correct Charles. They can’t perceive the danger.
Vision has limitations and blades moving that fast are perceived as a transparent blur.
One can demonstrate that blurring merely by turning one’s head quickly and the head turning is much slower than 200 kph.
There is no Air Traffic Controllers for eagles.
“Only if they’re flying close to begin with.”
Do you even try to think before you post?
Yes. You might try reading and understanding the thread before commenting. Charles claimed the pressure difference near the blades could be a factor by having the eagle sucked in and that means the bird not only has to be “close”, it has to be very close.
Could be and then you extrapolate that it has to be very close.
The pressure difference affects bats to a much greater degree and bats have eco location and can fly through high speed fans, yet the die by the millions with WTGs.
Charles:
The problem is they can’t perceive the danger.
You
Or they simply make a mistake, a bit like a bird flying into a window.
You are also trying to make a case that somehow sparrows and eagles are equal.
And you claim they are just too stupid to survive.
I read the posts. You pick out a nit and flame on it and post illogical nonsense.
Your ad hominem insults are noted.
So, my question still stands. Do you even try to think before you post?
Apparently only as needed to flame.
“presumably intimate understanding of its home area, just didn’t see it coming.”
That presumedly intimate understanding of its home area was developed well before the monstrosities were erected.
I asked AI, and it gave me this response:
“While there is no single, comprehensive, global count of annual animal deaths from oil extraction and refinement…”
Itthen goes on to list secondary impacts like pollution and habitat loss. This link that you provided doesn’t really give a clear indication about what “tar pits” and other activities are doing now, as it states that efforts have been made in recent years to reduce the number. Also, even if those numbers are accurate, those most likely reflect common avian species, and ones more vulnerable to low-level threats, more so than raptors, but who knows. Windmills also kill various marine life. It shouldn’t be passed as “clean” energy, given the materials and maintenance involved, too.
AI again.. so funny !! Scrapping the dregs of Wiki mal-information.
Again trying to justify the unjustifiable.
Did you not see my links (hint at the bottom).
You really do live in a different universe.
He is denying them. They don’t fit match up with his prejudgements.
“You really do live in a different universe.”
Yes. It is called the real world.
In reply to you second propaganda link..
1.. Turbine infrasound make it impossible to sleep and can cause all sorts of balance, nausea and internal issues in humans
2.. Emissions of CO2 or CH4 have zero proven effect on “the climate”
3.. Wild turbines and solar panels totally destroy vast areas of farmland and once pristine wilderness areas. Not to mention the horrendous lakes of toxic sludge formed during their production, and the massive leaching landfills required at the end of their short erratic use.
4.. Wind turbines and solar farms have totally destroyed many once nice tourist areas.
5.. Wild turbines disrupt and drive many forms of wildlife away, destroy bushland by cutting it up into sections. Also the vibrations compact soil, driving soil creatures away, destroying soil life.
6.. Oil industry does everything it can to avoid oil spills and cleans up after themselves. Wind turbine and solar farms just don’t care and actively try to hide the damage and death they cause to high-level avian species as well as the massive damage done to species like insects and bats etc etc
7.. Sound pollution from wind turbines drives all creatures away if they can escape. In the ocean they are a major problem for communication and navigation of fish and large marine mammals.
Light pollution from solar panels is responsible for many avian deaths and if a hailstorm hits, the land becomes unusable for decade because of glass shards and splinters which can cause horrendous internal injury to grazing anmals..
Show me the house cat takes on an Eagle.
No one is going to hold their breath.
Breakfast for the eagle’s chicks.. 🙂
So an eagle is more important than other wildlife?
Nice twist and deflection.
The Eagle was an endangered species. It now boasts of over 70,000 nesting pairs. How does that compare to field mice, sparrows, etc.?
There is a reason why Eagles have protected status. Eagles nearly went extinct in 1963.
Funny you did not bring North Atlantic Right Whales into the conversation.
Queens of denial, Anthony. Every form of fossil fuel related bird death you reference is backed up by research. Put them together and fossil fuels kill FAR more per produced w*h. than wind. And this is BEFORE painting turbine blades, which has barely started and which appear to reduce bird deaths by 70%.
https://www.audubon.org/magazine/can-painting-wind-turbine-blades-black-really-save-birds#:~:text=Future%20research%20might%20prove%20that,might%20consider%20changing%20their%20rules.
Yes, sorry to use a source so biased – for the birds.
COAL, OIL and GAS provide massive benefits to society.
Even you totally rely on them for your very existence.
Wind is actually a parasite that sucks off the rest of the electricity supply system.
It provides absolutely nothing of any worth to society.. Just TAKES.
“COAL, OIL and GAS provide massive benefits to society.”
True. But not an excuse to wish away their costs. Many more bird kills than wind/solar being one of many.
“Wind is actually a parasite that sucks off the rest of the electricity supply system.”
Not based in fact. Wind, by subbing for oil and gas burning has already extended the reserve life of fossil fuels so much that the oil price is qualitatively lower than it would be otherwise. Econ 101…
The AI number from Ant are TOTALLY BOGUS, because they are probably based on Sovacool’s total mess of a paper in 2009.
In this he gives basically all “fossil fuel” deaths as being due to “rapid climate change”
There is no evidence fossil fuels cause “climate change”, rapid or not, so the whole fakery is based on a completely baseless conjecture.
And there is no evidence that slight warming kills birds.
Same with the numbers he fabricated for nuclear.. totally bogus !!!
Nearly everything else in his paper is made up anti-factual BS as well.
A complete and utter FARCE that should NEVER have been published.
You’ve obviously never had to fish dead birds out of an oil sheened reserve pit that, like many others, your company should have cleaned up years ago.
But w.r.t your AB critiques, nope. I think AB started with AI, but then went on to other links. Unlike you.
But, even without documented ACC you don’t have a leg to stand on w.r.t. avian deaths per w*h produced in the US.
FYI, the basic tenet of the Sovacool report has never been rebutted. The closest critique was to population and kill projections, but no rebutter dissed the basic premise. They also pointed out that Sovacool specifically left out ACC deaths and those from acid rain and bioaccumulation of mercury and habitat loss, from coal, oil, and natural gas burning (not to mention naturally occurring radioactive material production that comes from oil production). There’s also a wudabout bats critique, which is not what you are whining about.
As a bone throw to you, here they are. Read and heed:
https://websites.umass.edu/natsci397a-eross/whether-or-not-wind-turbines-are-a-significant-threat-to-bird-populations/#:~:text=In%20his%202013%20Report%20%2C%20The,(US%20EIA%20%2C%202015)%20.
http://www.willisbatlab.org/uploads/8/0/0/6/8006753/willis_et_al_2010_bats_are_not_birds.pdf#:~:text=Even%20more%20worrisome%20than%20mistaking%20bats%20for,is%20a%20flaw%20in%20published%20mortality%20surveys.
And of course no response from you to the common sense palliative that is now underway – the simple painting of a turbine blade that appears to reduce strike deaths by 70%. Predictable.
There are currently no estimates for the number of birds killed or harmed by SV farms but a lot of documented concerns on the disrupted ecosystem and potential impacts on birds.
I know that and you know that Bob.
And few other peeps who can be bothered to brave the attack-dogs here.
That’s what you get in an echo-chamber.
A comforting place where they all imbibe of the fumes of delusion.
Bless.
https://www.aav.org/blogpost/1525799/492796/Solar-Energy-Production-s-Toll-on-Wild-Birds
Energy production is known to have a widespread impact on wild bird species. As of 2017, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Services estimated that yearly avian mortalities due to electrocution average 5.6 million, and some 8 to 50 million bird mortalities may occur following collision with electrical lines. As the world continues to grapple with the environmental changes posed by climate change, renewable energy sources like wind and solar power have gained significant attention. These promising solutions to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, may have unintended consequences to local ecosystems and wild bird populations.
So, since all of the animals need to be protected, we should give up electricity, including SV and WTG.
Be careful what you wish for.
The problem is, you decided to interject an attack based on something other than the content of the posted article.
You are a flame warrior.
From your link:
But turbines and birds have historically been at odds; according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, between 140,000 and 500,000 birds die in the United States alone after colliding with wind turbine blades each year.
Uh, ok. Wayback to the actual issue. The comparison of bird deaths per w*h of electricity produced, from wind v fossil fuels. The fossil fuelers lose that, no matter what.
The actual issue?
The article was about U. Minn. being find for not have the proper permits for their WTG.
The diversion is not the actual issue.
“Now shall we do a comparison of bird mortaity due to wind turbines and animal/bird deaths due the oil industry ?”
No. That is not the topic of conversation.
I have two very large Maine Coon cats, and I don’t think they would ever try to take on a bald eagle, or even an osprey, which are numeroud in Fl.
What a terrible way to generate electricity. Thank God that Ontario is building new nuclear facilities, and upgrading the older ones.
So the value of life for an eagle is $14K to $16K.
What is the value for a whale? A bat? Do we get a price list?
For us mere mortals,……..The penalty for possession of an eagle feather can include a fine of up to $100,000 and imprisonment for one year for a first offense. Subsequent violations can lead to even harsher penalties, including felony charges.
Wikipediahttps://external-content.duckduckgo.com/ip3/www.fws.gov.ico U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
And to give it a further thought:
What if a legal gun owner shoots a bald eagle…(“accidently” or not)
obligatory meme. ignore the stupid comments
https://www.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/13f99zv/as_if_wind_turbines_harm_birds_as_much_as_oil/?rdt=33894
So true…
So what happened to the bear?
Scams don’t usually come with any accountability. These wind farms all look shiny and new but servicing, overhaul, and disposal, is going to be a bitch. For these turbines, there is no green disposal methods because the whole idea is half baked from the start.
The elites in the NWO have reckoned that the planet won’t need so much energy after their cull of the human race via vaccines, poverty, and war.
By now others must have pointed out the misspelling in the headline. Should be “grisly” not “grizzly,” unless of course a very large brown bear was involved.