Trump’s Re-Election: A Deliciously Timed Reality Check for COP29

The global climate circus, formally known as the 29th United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP29), is underway in Baku, Azerbaijan, and the timing couldn’t be better. Or worse—depending on your perspective.

Donald Trump’s return to the White House has delivered a well-deserved gut punch to the assembled climate faithful.

After all, nothing ruins a good sermon on planetary salvation like a parishioner who refuses to take the gospel seriously.

While COP29 delegates scurry to manufacture “consensus,” the reality is clear: global climate policy was always a house of cards, and Trump’s election is the gust of wind that exposes its flimsy foundation.

Trump’s Record: Climate Realism Over Ideology

Say what you will about Trump, but at least he’s consistent. His first term shredded the Paris Agreement and unapologetically promoted American energy independence, prioritizing economic pragmatism over nebulous climate goals. Now, with a second term, the climate crusaders are sweating—not because of global warming, but because their multi-trillion-dollar plans depend on the unquestioning cooperation of the United States.

The Paris Agreement itself, hailed as a landmark in climate diplomacy, is fundamentally toothless. Even the International Energy Agency (IEA) admits that current commitments fall far short of the targets it claims are necessary. With Trump back in charge, even these ineffective promises are likely to be ignored. Let’s be honest—shouldn’t we applaud the clarity? At least someone is willing to call the bluff.

COP29: A Summit in Disarray

If Trump’s victory isn’t enough to sour the mood in Baku, the absence of major world leaders has surely done the trick. The European Union’s Ursula von der Leyen, Brazil’s Lula da Silva, and other prominent figures are conveniently “too busy” to attend, leaving the climate choir without its star soloists​.

Empty Chairs and Empty Promises

This lack of attendance is more than a scheduling conflict; it’s a silent acknowledgment that the climate summit routine is losing steam. Decades of annual COP meetings have delivered little beyond bloated communiqués and unenforceable agreements. The true believers, of course, will still emerge with proclamations of “progress,” but anyone paying attention knows the truth: the wheels are coming off.

The $1 Trillion Fantasy

One of the main agenda items at COP29 is a proposal to funnel $1 trillion annually to developing nations for climate adaptation and mitigation. How to fund this massive wealth transfer? Ideas range from taxing oil companies to levies on air travel and shipping​.

It’s an impressive grift, but let’s break it down. Developing countries demand reparations for a problem they claim they didn’t cause, while rich nations pledge money they don’t have. Even if these taxes materialized (highly doubtful), the funds would likely be squandered on boondoggles like solar farms that stop working after two years or wind turbines that can’t survive a stiff breeze.

Developing Nations: Right to Complain or Convenient Excuse?

The loudest voices at COP29 come from countries that portray themselves as victims of industrialized nations. Yet many of these same countries are doubling down on coal, oil, and gas projects, proving once again that hypocrisy is the true renewable resource. With Trump unwilling to play the guilt-ridden benefactor, these nations may need to rethink their strategy—or better yet, focus on real development instead of chasing climate handouts.

Azerbaijan: Petrostate Hosts the Climate Cult

Choosing Azerbaijan to host COP29 is either peak irony or a moment of clarity. A nation whose economy relies on oil and gas exports is now the stage for global discussions on phasing out fossil fuels. It’s like asking a fox to guard the henhouse—and then handing it a cookbook.

The official line is that Azerbaijan is diversifying into renewables, but let’s not kid ourselves. Hosting COP29 is a PR stunt, an opportunity to burnish the country’s image while continuing to rake in profits from the very resources the climate crowd wants to eliminate​.

What Does This Say About Climate Policy?

The choice of Azerbaijan is emblematic of a larger truth: climate diplomacy is rife with contradictions. World leaders preach austerity while flying in private jets. Fossil-fuel-dependent nations promise net zero. And now, the champions of decarbonization are meeting in a petrostate. It’s all theater, and the audience is growing weary.

The Decline of Climate Diplomacy

Let’s face it: the COP process was never designed to succeed. It relies on unenforceable agreements and the goodwill of nations with conflicting interests. The result is a predictable cycle of overhyped announcements, vague pledges, and little action.

The Problem with Consensus

By requiring unanimity, COP summits effectively guarantee mediocrity. Every nation gets a veto, and any serious proposal is watered down to meaninglessness. Add to this the political instability in key countries—Trump in the U.S., geopolitical tensions in Europe, and economic turmoil in developing nations—and the cracks in the system become glaringly obvious.

What’s the Point?

The most amusing part of COP29 is the pretense that any of this matters. Even if the proposed $1 trillion fund were fully realized (spoiler alert: it won’t be), it wouldn’t make a dent in global emissions. Why? Because China and India, the world’s largest emitters, are still building coal plants faster than you can say “carbon offset.”

Conclusion: Schadenfreude and Reality

Trump’s re-election is a sharp reminder of the futility of global climate policies. His unapologetic rejection of climate orthodoxy exposes what many already suspect: these summits are little more than elaborate charades, divorced from practical realities and rife with contradictions.

Instead of bemoaning Trump’s return, perhaps the climate faithful should thank him. By refusing to play along, he’s exposing the hollowness of their agenda. And if COP29 achieves nothing beyond demonstrating that truth, then it will have been a summit worth remembering.

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November 11, 2024 10:03 am

In the above article’s second paragraph:
“Donald Trump’s return to the White House has delivered a well-deserved gut punch to the assembled climate faithful fraudsters.”

There, fixed it for everyone.

Tom Halla
November 11, 2024 10:05 am

The IPCC and the COP should be treated with amused contempt.

James Snook
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 11, 2024 10:23 am

The annual Hajj is going to be a wake 🤡

David Wojick
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 11, 2024 10:51 am
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 11, 2024 12:15 pm

Gleeful dirision?

Mr.
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 11, 2024 2:29 pm

A thought –
if the stated agenda of this CoP is to collaborate on ways & means to lean on western nations to cough up big $$$$ that haven’t been offered willingly, are there any internationally-binding RICO type laws that make such conspiring a crime?

Ian_e
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 12, 2024 11:20 am

Or, perhaps, terrified contempt.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Ian_e
November 12, 2024 12:34 pm

Zealots cannot tolerate being mocked.

Richard M
November 11, 2024 10:33 am

I still think it would be a good idea for Trump to take the Paris agreement to the Senate as a treaty. I can’t believe it would be ratified and this would prevent future administrations from getting back in.

David Wojick
Reply to  Richard M
November 11, 2024 10:50 am

As evenly divided as the Senate is I would not chance it at this time.

Reply to  Charles Rotter
November 11, 2024 1:46 pm

Our Founding Fathers were wise. The Senate was to be selected by the Governments of the States (in whatever manner they chose) with staggered 6 year terms. They knew the dangers of mob rule.
It was supposed to be hard to approve a treaty or amend The Constitution.
An “agreement” by Obama or any other President is not and never was a “treaty”.
The United States of America was NEVER bound by Paris in any way, shape, or form.
(Woodrow Wilson was the one who proposed The League of Nations and signed a document “committing” the USA to be a member.
The Senate said no.)

Reply to  Gunga Din
November 11, 2024 10:44 pm

1913 was a bad year for the US. The progressives managed to pass the 16th Amendment (income tax), the 17th Amendment (popular election of Senators), and established the Federal Reserve System (a central bank proposed by Communists and leftists).

We enacted three planks of the Communist party: (1)a central bank, (2)tax on income, and (3)a graduated tax.

CampsieFellow
Reply to  Jim Masterson
November 12, 2024 3:41 am

That’s interesting about the popular election of Senators. I’ve watched several Western films in which one of the characters is campaigning to be elected by the people as a Senator or is considering standing for election by the people and now discover that it’s all an anachronism.
But to call income tax and a graduated tax Communist is just plain nonsense. Income tax was introuduced in the UK before Karl Marx was even born.

Reply to  CampsieFellow
November 12, 2024 5:17 am

I guess you can’t read. I said three planks of the Communist party. They may not have invented the ideas, but they promote the ideas. Claiming that there were idiots before the Communists and that those ideas are therefore justified is nonsense.

Reply to  David Wojick
November 12, 2024 3:18 am

Only a few idiots (“the squad” come to mind) would vote to ratify such stupidity. It would actually be beneficial to flush out the morons who would voluntarily bind the US to something so damaging to the US.

Reply to  Richard M
November 11, 2024 11:56 am

I said the same things many times. The vote will fail and that failure will be on record. This should be more than simply symbolic. Next time an administration tries to implement Paris through regulations, it provides ammo to have those regulations stricken.

Reply to  More Soylent Green!
November 11, 2024 10:46 pm

Instead of regulations, Congress should do their duty and pass laws. Regulations are enacted by un-elected bureaucrats.

Mr.
November 11, 2024 10:35 am

Lots of choice at the local red light district in Azerbaijan too.


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Reply to  Mr.
November 11, 2024 10:43 am

Are those also climate faithful, waiting to “serve” the COP29 attendees?

Bryan A
Reply to  ToldYouSo
November 11, 2024 10:22 pm

Looks like each one should also be holding A Skythe

bobpjones
Reply to  Mr.
November 11, 2024 12:48 pm

Well, you want a pretty one, don’t you.

Reply to  Mr.
November 11, 2024 12:54 pm

I think you are in the wrong place:
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From dating in Baku:
https://datinglocalgirls.com/wiki/Baku

Reply to  RickWill
November 11, 2024 2:11 pm

RickWill, I think you’ve been had . . . odds are 99.9999% that not a one of those women is an ethnic Azerbaijani . . . Azerbaijan is a mainly Muslim county so “local” girls in Baku wearing such clothing would probably have a half-life of a couple of days or so.

My understanding is that in strict Muslim countries a woman has to wear a hijab if she’s going to be seen by a man who isn’t her husband or a blood relation.

Reply to  ToldYouSo
November 11, 2024 2:41 pm

How wrong you are !

Google “Baku Nightlife” images.

Bryan A
Reply to  ToldYouSo
November 12, 2024 5:30 am

I also believe that in Azerbaijan Women do NOT have the right to Bare Arms.

Reply to  Bryan A
November 12, 2024 6:55 am

Clever!

Reply to  ToldYouSo
November 12, 2024 9:02 am

Nope. It was Russian occupied for decades. They have an active mafia. When I lived in in the Nizami Cinema area, you could get anything, almost anywhere. Beautiful ladies abounded. The mafia mols would dudette up and walk their dogs in the PM, with the dogs identically bejeweled.

My old neighbor Aliyev, son of Aliyev, ran SOCAR back then. He’s now HMF, son of HMF, and keeps things well in hand…

sherro01
Reply to  RickWill
November 11, 2024 4:00 pm

RickWill,
There is the option to bring your own from home.
Geoff S
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Mr.
Reply to  sherro01
November 11, 2024 4:16 pm

Surely Uber would deliver?

guidvce4
November 11, 2024 10:50 am

Can we get out of this nonsense of climate fraud? Once and for all. With the election of Trump as 47, I think we can just walk away from the whole grift.
And bail on the UN as well. Useless twats in that outfit. Just sayin’.

ScienceABC123
November 11, 2024 10:52 am

May COP29 be the last COP.

Reply to  ScienceABC123
November 11, 2024 2:35 pm

With Trump in the White House, the prospects for COP 30 are dim indeed.

Reply to  ScienceABC123
November 12, 2024 3:21 am

Defend the “COPs.” Not the law enforcement variety, but the climate grifter variety.

Bryan A
Reply to  ScienceABC123
November 12, 2024 5:31 am

Defund the CoPs

November 11, 2024 10:57 am

There’s always a judge somewhere who will be willing to declare all sorts of religious nonsense as the absolute truth.

After the last round, every single judge nominated in the last four years was nominated for one reason and one reason only: to oppose anything Trump might want to do.

We can’t relax now. The green religion is thoroughly embedded in the fabric of our governmental system, just as it is throughout Europe.

Reply to  Joe Gordon
November 11, 2024 11:58 am

Look at the pressure for Sotomayor to resign from SCOTUS now. Imagine she doesn’t resign or does but the Democrats can’t get a nominee through before January 20. As it it, Trump might get to replace Justices Thomas and Alito.

Reply to  Joe Gordon
November 11, 2024 12:57 pm

Trump could see two more Supreme Court retirees in the next 4 years. That will stack the Supreme Court to his selections for a generation.

Reply to  RickWill
November 11, 2024 2:02 pm

If he nominates, not left or right but Constitutionalist (as he did in the past), that’s not “stacking” anything but helping to return the US to it’s foundation.
Some of what the Left wants to do will be ruled Unconstitutional. Some of what the Right wants to do will be ruled Unconstitutional.
Don’t like it? Go through the Amendment Process to change the Constitution rather than put politically biased judges on the courts.

November 11, 2024 10:58 am

The list of insanities that I expect will get a stake to the heart in the next 4 years is long. Really long. He was off to a slow start last time as he didn’t understand yet how the levers of power work in Washington, and world leaders were testing him to see what he is made of. This time he will hit the ground running, and world leaders are already bending the knee, even the worst of the worst.

But when it comes to climate change, he needs to put more than a stake in the heart of COP. He promised to kill off shore wind, but that’s minor. What we desperately need him to do is put a stake in the heart of climate religeon itself, starting with its teaching from kindergarten on.

He has the power to build a blue ribbon committee of world renown scientists to study the IPCC, criticize it, and make recommendations for school curricula. The simplest of things. Study the frequency and intensity of hurricanes for example. Great project for say Grade 8. Let the students see the data for themselves. That’s if they can do basic math by the time they get there I suppose, that problem might have to be fixed first.

I don’t think four years is enought to slay the beast, so a continuing body that survives the administration would also be of help. But even better would be that the Republicans put aside their constant internal bickering and back stabbing, get behind their president and start looking toward the next election. Can you imagine the manner in which this and many other issues would be killed, and killed dead, if Trump were followed by say a two term JD Vance? CO2 would be at close to 500 ppm with no ill effects on the horizon and a generation of young voters armed with facts that they themselves deduced from the data.

Marty
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 11, 2024 12:06 pm

What would really help would be for Congress to amend the EPA enabling law to forbid the EPA from regulating either carbon dioxide or methane. And amend the Clean Air Act to explicitly exclude carbon dioxide or methane from the Act. Then even if the Democrats regain control of the White House, they won’t be able to regulate carbon dioxide or methane through an administrative procedure. It would require an act of Congress and that is unlikely to happen.

Reply to  Marty
November 11, 2024 2:03 pm

I’d rather see the EPA shut down. It is too corrupt to reform with laws. They are experts at circumventing the spirit of the law while adhering to the letter. Has to be done with some plan to replace what little good work they do with something else of course. He’s already said he will shut down the Dept of Education, but he’s already expressed the plan for what comes after. That’s what we need for the EPA.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 11, 2024 3:45 pm

Well…. Trump just announced Lee Zeldin to run the EPA.
Not as good as shutting it down, but a good move. He knows the score and has tons of political experience, but he is a lawyer by trade. So his mandate is deregulation, but the scientists will bluff him. We shall see.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 11, 2024 6:47 pm

I’m with you, David.

Shutter the DHS as well. In fact, everything but State, Interior, Defense, and Treasury.

Reply to  Marty
November 11, 2024 2:08 pm

A “regulation” should not have the force of a Law passed by Congress.
Amend the Clean Air and Clean Water Acts.

Reply to  Gunga Din
November 11, 2024 10:50 pm

I think Education is on the chopping block.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 11, 2024 12:27 pm

I don’t think four years is enough to slay the beast…

Me neither, if you’re speaking about political action. But there is something that may happen in the next four or five years that would be enough. That is nationwide blackouts in a major Western economy – like the UK. The way they are going at the moment, its entirely possible. Even likely.

Now that would be a wakeup call that could not be ignored.

Reply to  michel
November 11, 2024 2:06 pm

Austria and Germany are my picks. They’ve already urged their citizens to keep stockpiles of supplies.

bobpjones
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 11, 2024 1:01 pm

Well said, I’ve had exactly the same thoughts (from across the pond). He needs to get the message out, not just to schools, but to the whole electorate. Perhaps, he could have a public debate, with the renown professional scientists, presenting the flaws in the current narrative.

Additionally, he should legislate against suppression of scientific papers, that are contrary to the current stream. Highlighting the ‘bandits’, who have wielded the power for so long, and prevented true scientific debate. Add to that, the right of legal redress, for any scientists whose careers suffer because of their alternative views.

He should also guarantee funding for Christy & Spencer, for say a further 25 years.

You’re totally right, it will require at least three terms to establish, an ‘other’ viewpoint. Vance should take on board Trump’s commitments and see them through.

Reply to  bobpjones
November 11, 2024 1:59 pm

I’d be against debates. The other side will just fill up social media with claims like “well they’re not climate scientists”.

What we need is the facts. Trump loves his big bill boards (well one actually saved his life!) but what I want to see is billboards with hurricane data with a trend line through it. Same with tornadoes, droughts, floods and wild fires. With the source of the data clearly being from NOAA.

bobpjones
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 11, 2024 5:17 pm

I was thinking of the debaters being scientists, like Koonan, Lindzen, Happer etc. But I like your idea of billboards.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 11, 2024 6:50 pm

Have Congress require that climate models go through a rigorous V&V.
Have Congress authorize blue, gold, and black teams of precision engineers examine the historical air temperature record.

By the time those teams are done, the complete crud of the whole AGW program will be obvious to all.

And the people who preen as climate scientists will be exposed as the incompetents they are.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 11, 2024 10:57 pm

. . . “well they’re not climate scientists”.

Apparently these “climate scientists” have never studied Thermodynamics either. Study the Thermodynamic discipline for five minutes, and you can destroy all of their arguments. Mr. Stokes still thinks you can average intensive properties like temperature–which he does “ad nauseam.”

cwright
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 12, 2024 3:14 am

“….what I want to see is billboards with hurricane data with a trend line through it….”
Yes, I would absolutely love to see that. He could do that when he announces he is taking the US ouit of the Paris suicide pact.

A great graph to show would be from the EMDAT data that clearly shows that deaths from extreme weather have been falling dramatically over the last 100 years and today are at historically very low levels.

Another great graph would be the wildfire data from the US agency. It should actually be two graphs, showing the full data from 1900 and also the current version with the data before 1980 magically removed. The agency removed the earlier data shortly after Biden became president – what a coincidence. The early data was just too embarrassing because it showed that US wildfires were far worse in the 1930’s.

Showing both graphs would allow Trump to show that, although the real data shows that there is no climate crisis – quite the reverse – it would also illustrate the scientific fraud that has corrupted so much of the climate change narrative.

Trump’s past statements about climate change are actually pretty close to mainstream sceptical opinion. When he calls it a scam he is clearly referring to the climate cult. As far as I’m aware he has never denied the reality of global warming. Of course, the real debate is not about the reality of global warming. The debate is about three things: the actual amount of warming, its causes and its effects. Of course, most sceptics would probably believe that the warming is quite small, mostly natural and entirely beneficial.

I’m not sure if Trump knows much about the science and the data, he may be basing it mostly on his gut instincts. Of course, his position is strongly supported by the honest science and the data.

I also hope that under his presidency carbon dioxide will be declared innocent by the new head of the EPA. Calling CO2 “pollution” is mad and disgusting. It is not a greenhouse gas – greenhouses don’t work by trapping radiation, they work by trapping warm air. CO2 is literally a green gas. It is what makes the planet green.

I hope that Donald Trump – despite his flaws – will prove to be one of the greatest US presidents in history.
Chris

Reply to  cwright
November 12, 2024 1:24 pm

The correct scientific term for CO2 is a “radiatively active” gas.

It actually has no measurable effect on the climate, weather or temperature.

Also , CO2 does not “trap” radiation. It absorbs in a tiny, weak thin band then gets rid of it almost immediately, mostly by conduction, but some by radiation.

Calculations of the free mean path for CO2 show that energy passes from surface to tropopause in less than 5 milliseconds. This is almost speed of light, so delay is negligible and no energy is retained.

Richard M
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 11, 2024 2:31 pm

Several things have happened over the past 4 years which could be important.

-Censorship was exposed by Elon Musk.
-The global temperature has jumped up a fair amount.
-Weather hasn’t gotten any worse.
-There were 4 more years where CO2 emissions increased despite the alarmist hyperbole.

These may set the stage for Trump. We are setup for natural cooling to kick in and no one will be able to censor the data. If the cooling is large enough the alarmists will never be able to explain it and maintain any kind of credibility. CO2 emissions will continue to rise while the cooling occurs.

This will invalidate the models and provide Trump the opportunity to “look into potential fraud” which I’m sure he would love to do. With potential criminal charges facing alarmists, there should be a lot of whistleblowers coming forward. This could be how the climate hoax crumbles.

Duane
November 11, 2024 11:05 am

A suggestion: stop reporting on these COP thingies. Nobody pays attention to them but the truest of the warmunist true believers. Really, normal people just don’t care what they say or do, and likely never did.

Neo
November 11, 2024 11:07 am

Representatives of the Taliban terrorist organization ruling Afghanistan landed in Baku, Azerbaijan, on Monday to attend COP29, the annual United Nations climate alarmism summit, where environmentalists are agitating to secure up to $1 trillion in “climate finance.”

.. if you had any doubts that it was a scam, the Taliban have removed them

Ron Long
Reply to  Neo
November 11, 2024 11:37 am

I read that, Neo, over on Breitbart, and then realized Trump being re-elected and the Taliban arriving at the COP OUT& 29 are polar opposites, and the side of the loonies is now even clearer. I bet Nick rides this one out and doesn’t say anything….waiting….waiting….

Reply to  Neo
November 11, 2024 1:55 pm

I can’t think of a more anti-science, anti-technology (excluding the making of IEDs), anti-modern energy infrastructure, anti-progress organization than the Taliban. Little wonder the “United” Nations and the Azerbaijan government both greeted them to COP29 with open arms.

Reply to  ToldYouSo
November 12, 2024 1:25 pm

They seem to have been able to get the massive gift of war machinery from Biden working.

strativarius
November 11, 2024 11:23 am

In stark reality a CoP is nothing more than a Beggar’s Banquet.

China will say jump and mad monk Miliband will ask how high?

November 11, 2024 11:25 am

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Was my last comment offensive in some way? It was there for a while, and now its gone. It was pretty tame in terms of comments from me, I can’t imagine anything in it that deserved deletion.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 11, 2024 11:43 am

Well… now its back!
Tx to whoever restored it be it a mod or just the vagaries of the site.

Reply to  Charles Rotter
November 11, 2024 2:07 pm

Well thanks anyway.
I’ll give it more time if it happens again.

Reply to  Charles Rotter
November 11, 2024 2:12 pm

Computer programs are great until they aren’t.
Let’s all bow and swear allegiance to AI! 😎

Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 11, 2024 12:43 pm

The auto-mod works in “mysterious” [spooky music] ways. 🙂

Idle Eric
November 11, 2024 11:31 am

Even if these taxes materialized (highly doubtful), the funds would likely be squandered on boondoggles like solar farms that stop working after two years or wind turbines that can’t survive a stiff breeze.

Don’t be daft, 90% of the funds will end up in the Swiss bank accounts of the developing nations politicians and bureaucrats, that’s why they’re so damn keen on the whole thing.

November 11, 2024 11:31 am

A farcical waste of time and money.

Bob
November 11, 2024 11:40 am

We are winning. If the US would simply withhold funding for these international money grubbing organizations we could get on with the business helping those who need it and telling the tax collectors to take a hike.

Reply to  Bob
November 11, 2024 11:00 pm

And save our money.

Ed Zuiderwijk
November 11, 2024 12:00 pm

Now that the money is not going to be sent to Baku, can I suggest my bank account?

Mr.
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
November 11, 2024 2:15 pm

get in the queue . . .

Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
November 11, 2024 2:27 pm

can I suggest my bank account”

If you a worker, earning, that is effectively what tax cuts do. 🙂

November 11, 2024 12:14 pm

This is mostly about greedy EU and US woke elites selling offshore wind turbines, solar panels, batteries to the U.S., where the cabal behind their Biden/Harris puppets is using additions to the US national debt to implement expensive policies and enrich themselves.

However, utilities would be forced to buy the offshore electricity at about 15 to 16 c/kWh, which is at least 2.5 times higher than oil, coal and gas electricity. That offshore price would be 30 to 32 c/kWh, if no 50% subsidies.

That would make the US even less competitive in world markets, which the EU elites like, so they can continue to have high trade surpluses with the US.

But Trump is no fool.

He does not even need to drill, baby, drill.
He could stop the export of our fossil fuels, which would VERY QUICKLY lower energy and all other prices in the US, and would lower interest rates, and would reverse part of the inflationary effects of stupid/expensive Biden/Harris policies, which is just one reason they lost the Election.

The deep state wants to export our fossil fuels to buy friends, as part of geo-politics.
By not exporting, a tool is taken from the deep state, and inflation is reduced in the US, a win, win, for the US people.

bobpjones
Reply to  wilpost
November 11, 2024 1:07 pm

Maybe, also, removing the subsidies, and other financial fiddling systems they use. Then we can see just how ‘cheap’ ruinables are.

I bet it wouldn’t be long, before there were no new projects, and the existing ones being closed down.

Reply to  bobpjones
November 11, 2024 1:55 pm

Yes, eliminate all subsidies of everything, A-to-Z

That would unglue the web of connections of the deep state, which includes almost all members of Congress; almost all of them are grifting and grafting, and influence peddling; Biden, Inc., was good at that.

Those subsidies are used by ingrown career bureaucrats to buy influence and coerce the despicables, the garbage, the deplorables

Schumer was calling for bi-partisanship
He is a total uniparty fox; he should defanged, declawed and exiled.

Reply to  wilpost
November 11, 2024 3:28 pm

Schumer was calling for bi-partisanship”

So long as everyone did what he wanted.

Seems to be the leftist definition of “bi-partisanship”. 🙂

Reply to  bnice2000
November 11, 2024 11:16 pm

‘Twas always so with the Democrats!

Reply to  wilpost
November 11, 2024 11:15 pm

“Yes, eliminate all subsidies of everything, A-to-Z”

We still subsidize sugar! When you subsidize something–you get more of it. (If we stopped subsidizing sugar, its price would drop to the world price–which is less.) In Thomas Sowell’s book: Basic Economics, he discusses this. There are a limited number of resources. When you subsidize something, that distorts the market. Limited resources that can be used elsewhere are diverted.

They say (about subsidizing sugar), we are utilizing swamp areas that can’t be used for other things. (Sugar cane grows in swampy areas.) However, trucks, people, and energy can be used elsewhere. The result is a surplus of sugar. We have so much sugar, that we use it as a filler. And we have a population that is overweight. Only stupid government can do such damage–thank-you sugar lobby. /sarc

Dave Andrews
Reply to  bobpjones
November 12, 2024 6:56 am

Well Equinor have recently pulled out of their offshore wind projects in Spain and Portugal and have closed their Hanoi office in Vietnam. They have also said they were thinking about exiting other markets.

Offshore wind is in choppy waters 🙂

bobpjones
Reply to  Dave Andrews
November 12, 2024 7:25 am

The choppier, the better 😁

Someone
Reply to  wilpost
November 11, 2024 2:15 pm
  1. Lowering mineral (nothing fossil about them) fuel prices in US would discourage investments in their domestic exploration and extraction.
  2. While US have to import certain grades of oil for its refineries to get a proper mix, exporting excess of other grades benefits US producers. Why should the latter take a hit?
  3. US exports LNG. Are you suggesting all of this infrastructure should be forbidden to be used at all?
  4. Regarding buying friends, not sure US bought many friends in Germany replacing “unreliable” dictatorial Russian pipeline gas with reliable democratic LNG. Perhaps bought a couple of expandable politicians.

Overall, global markets work best for all when commodities are allowed to be traded without restrictions.

Editor
November 11, 2024 12:26 pm

Surely one of the best jokes is from the oil and gas companies who promise to cut their carbon footprint by reducing accidental leakage of methane.

Reply to  Mike Jonas
November 11, 2024 12:56 pm

The concentration of methane is ca. 1.9 ppmv. The low concentration is due the initiation of its combustion by discharges of lightning. There are many thousands of lightning discharges of lightning everyday, especially in the tropics.

Methane is slightly soluble in cold water. One liter of ice cold water can contain about 35 mls of methane. That is not very much, but the cold polar oceans are very large.

We don’t have to worry about methane emissions.

Editor
Reply to  Harold Pierce
November 11, 2024 1:59 pm

Very true, but I was thinking that it’s a joke worrying about accidental leakage when you think about what they are selling.

Reply to  Mike Jonas
November 12, 2024 2:23 pm

They also “flash” extra methane, converting it to life-sustaining CO2 and H2O

Reply to  Harold Pierce
November 12, 2024 3:48 am

Don’t have to worry in any event, since the absorption bands for methane are completely overlapped by water vapor. Methane has a “real world” warming “potential” of ZERO.

SwedeTex
November 11, 2024 12:38 pm

COP – Coven of Phonies

SwedeTex
Reply to  SwedeTex
November 11, 2024 2:13 pm

Actually changing. COP = Corruption on Parade

Reply to  SwedeTex
November 11, 2024 2:18 pm

Unless they all walk to it.
OH! Wait. What are their shoes made of? Some sort of rubber or plastic? Leather? Were the animals the leather came from raised on a farm?
What were Otzi’s shoes made of?

Corrigenda
November 11, 2024 12:50 pm

The supposed science of climate is also now seen to be wrong. It was wrong when it was thought that a new ice age was coming – yet we have not had any apology from climate scientists. Why?

The UK PM and many other leaders in the world are already winding down the ludicrous expense of the nonsensical Paris Agreement. There can be no justification whatsoever to keep it going. Not one serious climate forecast has ever come to pass. It is ludicrous. Why then have the concepts of the Paris Agreement not already been scrapped and reversed?

November 11, 2024 1:30 pm

Story Tip

News reports say Trump has appointed Lee Zeldin of New York as Trump’s EPA head.

Editor
November 11, 2024 1:43 pm

Donald Trump currently looks like winning the House too, by 7 at least, probably 9 (it’2 214-204, GOP leading in 8 more). Hopefully he will be able to get the swamp drained and the climate scam ended this time.

Reply to  Mike Jonas
November 11, 2024 11:18 pm

I would say, “It is hoped.”

November 11, 2024 1:48 pm
Edward Katz
November 11, 2024 2:08 pm

Apparently the number of delegates to attend COP 29 is down to 32,000, still too many hangers-on and freeloaders, but still an appreciable drop from the 85,000 last year. As the article mentioned above, a number of the bigwigs have declined to attend signifying several things. First they’re finally admitting that there’s no getting away from fossil fuels as the world’s primary energy source. Second, none of the wealthy countries intends to raise and donate the billions that the developing world believes it’s entitled to, and with no shortage of graft or corruption in their ranks is likely to steal or squander. Third with Trump as President, it’s a guarantee that the US will increase its fossil fuel production and consumption, so why wouldn’t the rest of the world do the same to boost their economies. What we’re probably finally witnessing at this point is the beginning of the collapse of these international climate conferences because their odds of succeeding were long ones from the outset, so they turned into nothing but gabfests required to achieve nothing.

observa
November 11, 2024 2:08 pm

I do like a bit of backgrounding and history-

COP29: Climate talks open with calls for path away from ‘road to ruin’ – but real focus is money

On Monday in Baku, Azerbaijan, where the world’s first oil well was drilled and the smell of the fuel was noticeable outdoors,…….

Then the money quote-

“Let’s dispense with any idea that climate finance is charity,” 

Yep strictly graft and corruption for sure boyoh.