“It’s Nonsensical”: Greens Wail at Trump’s Hostility to Climate Action

Essay by Eric Worrall

“… he highlighted the expanding assault he and Republicans are launching against even the most obscure environmental policies – a push that’s starting to influence voters.”

‘It’s nonsensical’: how Trump is making climate the latest culture war

The ex-president is ranting about low water pressure and attacking mundane rules and technologies – and Republicans in Congress are now following his lead

Oliver Milman Wed 3 Jul 2024 20.00 AEST

When Donald Trump embarked upon a lengthy complaint at a recent rally about how long it takes to wash his “beautiful luxuriant hair” due to his shower’s low water pressure, he highlighted the expanding assault he and Republicans are launching against even the most obscure environmental policies – a push that’s starting to influence voters.

In his bid to return to the White House, Trump has branded Joe Biden’s attempt to advance electric cars in the US “lunacy”, claiming such vehicles do not work in the cold and that their supporters should “rot in hell”. He’s called offshore wind turbines “horrible”, falsely linking them to the death of whales, while promising to scrap incentives for both wind and electric cars.

But the former US president and convicted felon, who has openly solicited donations from oil and gas executives in order to follow industry-friendly priorities if re-elected, has also spearheaded a much broader attack on a range of mundane rules and technologies that enable water and energy efficiency.

At a June rally in Philadelphia, Trump claimed Americans are suffering from “no water in your faucets” when attempting to wash their hands or hair. “You turn on the water and it goes drip, drip,” he said. “You can’t get [the soap] off your hand. So you keep it running for about 10 times longer.” Trump complained it takes 45 minutes to wash his “beautiful luxuriant hair” and that dishwashers don’t work because “they don’t want you to have any water”.

But Republicans in Congress are now following Trump’s lead, introducing a flurry of recent bills in the House of Representatives targeting energy efficiency standards for home appliances. The bills – with names such as the “Liberty in Laundry Act”, “Refrigerator Freedom Act” and the ‘Clothes Dryers Reliability Act’ – follow a conservative furore over a confected, baseless claim the Biden administration was banning gas stoves, which prompted further GOP legislation.

A new poll, released by the Pew Research Center on Thursday, underscored this trend – support for new solar farms has slumped to 78% across all Americans, down from 90% just four years ago. Backing for expanding wind power has dropped by a similar amount, while interest in buying an electric vehicle is significantly lower than a year ago, with just 29% of people saying they would consider an EV, down from 38% in 2023.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/03/trump-climate-culture-war

No wonder greens are panicking. I wonder how many Americans are realising they’ve just woken from a nightmare, that the USA their forefather’s built, a land of opportunity which rewards hard work and effort, which they thought was gone forever, is still there, just waiting for them to make the right decision on November 5th.

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July 7, 2024 2:05 pm

Ahhh.. I so love to see greenie panic tantrums in the morning ! 🙂

Very uplifting .

Bryan A
Reply to  bnice2000
July 7, 2024 3:10 pm

When Donald Trump embarked upon a lengthy complaint at a recent rally about how long it takes to wash his “beautiful luxuriant hair” due to his shower’s low water pressure, he highlighted the expanding assault he and Republicans are launching against even the most obscure environmental policies – a push that’s starting to influence voters.

If they are so “Mundane” “Obscure” and inconsequential why worry about it at all…
Or is the “push that’s starting to influence voters” aspect that worries them most?

Dems just can’t accept that Republicans could wield any power at all

kenji
Reply to  Bryan A
July 7, 2024 3:51 pm

Mundane? Obscure? Hey eco-tards!! I live in CA … where Amazon refused to sell the shower head I wanted because of “mundane and obscure” rules. So I found another way to purchase it (I won’t say how). And I did the same with every other bath and kitchen fixture in my home. And STILL I had to drill-out the flow restrictors in some of the faucets. Why? Because I don’t like dribbling water fixtures. It’s YOU eco-tards who created these EVERYDAY “mundane and obscure” regulations. You tried to ruin my EVERYDAY life. GFY.

And don’t get me started on your “obscure and mundane” regulation to eliminate all Nat. Gas. from CA. My Navian tankless Nat. Gas WH is the most efficient appliance I own at 97% efficiency … my Nat. Gas bill is virtually NOTHING … even with PG&E’s outrageous multi-tier rates. And I take LONG, HOT, showers on cold winter mornings. So EAT IT!!

Randle Dewees
Reply to  kenji
July 7, 2024 4:52 pm

Practically any useful chemical or chemical based product – for example, Semichrome metal polish. Not sold in Kali because it has, get this, naphtha as an ingredient. The stuff is made in Germany for crying out loud. Of course, you can still buy (for now) camp stove fuel (naphtha) by the gallon at Walmart.

I can usually buy and get shipped to me what I want on a particular online auction site. Yes, even regular flow shower heads.

oeman50
Reply to  kenji
July 8, 2024 5:12 am

I removed the flow restrictors from the hand-held shower and the flow STILL was not good. I finally figured out there was another flow restrictor in the bracket that held it, removed it (had to saw it out) and the flow was much better. Sheesh!

Reply to  kenji
July 8, 2024 10:52 pm

Plus 100 points for drilling out the flow restrictions – designed to give you poor flow!

I always use the shower on the hardest spray setting anyway – tightest holes – so restricting the flow naturally and giving a satisfying shower at the same time.

I don’t know why practically the whole developed world followed that nonsense coming out of the admittedly arid California – especially in my dripping wet area, where Lake Ontario is my reservoir!

Reply to  Bryan A
July 7, 2024 9:43 pm

It’s the push that’s worrying the extreme left.

Le Pen was defeated in France only by the extreme left pulling out of the race so their votes would go to a single far-left party. Le Pen’s party still polled a third of the votes despite frantic efforts to keep them out.

In the UK, Reform polled more votes than the Lib Dems (but only got 5 seats), stealing votes from the Tories.

Right-wing parties (not extreme-right as the Misleadia choose to portray them) are on the rise in Europe and the left will do anything to keep their apple cart from being upset.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Redge
July 8, 2024 3:16 am

By do anything do you mean “vote”? They don’t seem to have done anything else except vote in both the UK and France. And if Le Pen doesn’t count as far right then I am not sure who does.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 3:47 am

Thing is, Izzydumb… that to you, anyone not to the left of Genghis Kahn is “far- right”

You have zero concept of the rational political centre.

Remember, the people opposing Le Pen are ultra-leftists and are hand in hand with Hamas and other Islamist terrorists.

Palestinian flags everywhere, and very few French flags.

What does that tell you. !!

Reply to  bnice2000
July 8, 2024 4:07 am

Radical Leftists think they are the political center.

Reply to  bnice2000
July 8, 2024 4:25 am

The new Palestinian state.

Now it will be totally open borders… as the invasion continues.

French-Palistine
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 4:05 am

“And if Le Pen doesn’t count as far right then I am not sure who does.”

Define “Far Right”.

Far Right is associated with Extremism.

What is extreme about Le Pen’s political positions?

I honestly don’t know her postions on anything but I don’t think they are as extreme as some people want to make them out to be. That’s usually the case when the Left is calling the Right extreme.

The Left portrays the Right as extreme, but it turns out the extreme positions are really just common sense positions, for the most part. Unfortunately, the Left thinks common sense is extreme.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 8, 2024 7:00 pm

“Extreme” to a leftist means anyone who disagrees with them, by even a little bit.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 4:18 am

Normal may appear extreme when the Left is fanatically ultra-radical.

John XB
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 6:48 am

F A Hayek (look him up if you don’t know) pointed out that Socialism, National Socialism, Fascism share common roots: elevation of the State over the individual, central economic power and control.

These tendencies are Left wing. Those who call Fascism, Far Right clearly aren’t sure what it is.

Le Pen is definitely a Statist who believes in State direction of the economy. That’s as far away from Right as possible… maybe that’s what the Far in Far Right means… far from.

Sadly there is no Far Right which must be the antithesis, polar opposite of Far Left – therefore, sovereignty of the individual, property rights, free market capitalism.

Reply to  John XB
July 9, 2024 7:44 am

The only true “Far Right” government I can think of was Chile under Pinochet, which imposed the free market ideas of the great Milton Friedman. Inconveniently for the Left, Chile became the most successful economy in South America. Javier Milei is following the same route in Argentina.

MarkW
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 9:41 am

The political spectrum in Europe goes like this.
Communist, socialist, extreme right.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 6:59 pm

It’s not leftists voting I object to, though I do wish they would actually research what they think they’re voting for, it’s all their ancestors, back well beyond the Mayflower, and mine too, that they vote as well.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 10:57 pm

Please read his comment again.

Reply to  Redge
July 8, 2024 4:00 am

“Le Pen was defeated in France only by the extreme left pulling out of the race so their votes would go to a single far-left party. Le Pen’s party still polled a third of the votes despite frantic efforts to keep them out.”

Thanks for that information. Our national news media failed to mention it.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 8, 2024 5:48 am

They probably also failed to mention that Le Pen’s party took the lead in every “department” (or “canton”, or county) in the entire country (there are 96 of them) except Paris…

John XB
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 8, 2024 7:01 am

Her Party won 37% of the vote, Mélenchon’s NPF: 25.95% 
Macron’s Ensemble: 24.54%”. But she can’t form a Government.

Yet last week in the UK the (Socialist) Labour Party ‘won’ the election – by default really – and the most seats, and could form a Government with 36% of the vote. This was a 0.6% increase in support, on second lowest turnout in history, 60%.

ReformUK Party won 5 seats with 15% of the vote, the Liberal Democrat Party got 11% of the vote and 71 seats.

Meanwhile in Germany, the ‘Far Right’ (populist) AfD Party getting far too much of the vote in elections, excoriated in the media, has been debanked.

None but the Establishment mob may rule particularly if any other gets mass popular support.

And you Yanks think your electoral system is rigged.

Funny old World, and no error.

Reply to  John XB
July 8, 2024 2:52 pm

It’s worse that we thought!

Reply to  Bryan A
July 8, 2024 7:56 am

Dems just can’t accept that Republicans could wield any power at all

I’ve seen talk about “fixing” the system to ensure that no Republican ever holds public office again.

MarkW
Reply to  Tony_G
July 8, 2024 9:45 am

The left is so convinced of their moral and intellectual superiority, that they have no problem with rigging the system so that only they can rule.

It’s for the children after all.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Tony_G
July 8, 2024 12:42 pm

That would definitely start a civil war. And the left can’t win with bike chains and cut up trash cans for weapons.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
July 8, 2024 7:03 pm

The left can’t win with the woosies they have on their side, none of which WILL fight.

observa
Reply to  bnice2000
July 8, 2024 7:08 am

Waking up to The Guardian piling on must be worse than the dooming for them-
Democrats don’t just need a new candidate. They need a reckoning (msn.com)

Simply sublime how the lamestream media running cover for Sleepy Joe over the years has aided and abetted Dem apparatchiks digging the monster political hole they’re all in now along with their Comical Ally Kareem. It’s either Sleepy Joe or Gigglepot Kamala as no rational alternative pick wants the poison chalice at this late stage. Best skip this one and stick their hand up for the next one knowing Trump must retire. Joe or Kamala….decisions…decisions?

MarkW
Reply to  observa
July 8, 2024 9:49 am

Only Kamala has the legal right to access the $260 million that has been donated to the Biden/Harris campaign. Also, if they skip over Kamala, they will disappoint many left wind women and minorities. The Dems have been losing support in both groups in recent years.

observa
Reply to  MarkW
July 8, 2024 6:46 pm

You’re right about that but it doesn’t matter as nobody who is anybody in the Dem hierarchy wants the poison chalice now-
Gavin Newsom response when asked point blank if he’d run for president (msn.com)
Nope no way and I’ll sit this one out thanks guys so they’re stuck with sleepy or the DEI hire. Hobsons Choice and all down to the lamestream media running cover for their nefarious scheme with puppet Biden as the rats desert the sinking ship and leak it all. It’s always the coverups that get them real bad in the end.

Denis
July 7, 2024 2:11 pm

Windmills don’t kill whales? The Navy learned in the early 1990s that their sonar emissions can harm and even kill whales and changed the ocean areas where sonar operations are permitted to avoid areas where whales frequent. Sonar is used extensively to build offshore wind farms and if not regulated to avoid whale traffic, whales will die.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Denis
July 7, 2024 3:10 pm

We extreme ultra far right extreme extremists would prefer to go on a whaling ship over a wimpy whale watch. So obviously we’re lying when we show any concern for whales. We don’t care if offshore drilling kills whales. Do we? Well do we, huh? We just want our filthy lucre and our oil and gas interests are threatened by the lowest cost energy evah! So don’t be hypocritically concerned about windmills killing the whales or the eagles. If it wasn’t for Big Government ™ you would be shooting eagles out of sky with your AR whatever thingies!

I suppose I have to give some of you a /sarc

John XB
Reply to  Denis
July 8, 2024 7:04 am

I read that the vibration of the harmonics of the turning blades (which also cause Human health issues on land) are relayed down the column into the sea and broadcast at a frequency injurious to whales.

Reply to  Denis
July 8, 2024 7:27 am

Disturbances are high, especially when demand is low, but winds are strong.
What to do with all that surplus wind power?

In Germany, an 800-lb gorilla in wind power, if it cannot export it at 0 or negative wholesale prices, it gets curtailed, and Owners are paid, as if they had generated that power. 

None of that shows up in the low contract price, widely distributed to naive people, who are purposely kept misinformed.. 

The costs get buried in slop accounts, already for decades.

Nothing is allowed to be revealed that shows any bad light on the W/S fairy tale.
The subterfuge, obfuscation, and other shenanigans would make the CIA envious.

Reply to  Denis
July 9, 2024 7:48 am

Offshore wind turbines don’t kill whales in the same way onshore wind turbines don’t kill birds and bats.

/s

Tom Halla
July 7, 2024 2:18 pm

The Grauniad has clearly never used any of the “water conservation” appliances, or is just flatly lying about them. Removing the flow restrictors from shower heads does take a while to figure out, but is quite needed unless one has very high water pressure.

kenji
Reply to  Tom Halla
July 7, 2024 3:59 pm

I do have very high 100 psi + water pressure (a benefit of living in the valley) and it still isn’t enough to render the flow restrictors inoperable. I’ve drilled them all out and/or purchased “illegal” fixtures (I won’t say how or where).

imagine that … I’m a fugitive from “the law” … because I also like showers capable of rinsing the conditioner out of my hair. I installed and am operating “illegal” bath fixtures in CA! Come get me eco police! You won’t take me alive !!
https://youtu.be/_iTwrWn7aR0?si=c1pynHv7qfmvkzs5

Reply to  kenji
July 7, 2024 6:22 pm

You Criminal! I bet you remove tags from your mattress too.

Reply to  Fraizer
July 7, 2024 9:40 pm

Hey, thanks for reminding me ……..

kenji
Reply to  Fraizer
July 7, 2024 10:59 pm

When our Maoist State government go completely NUTZ! … they will break into my home and will test all the faucets … and any fixture that actually delivers enough water to wash the soap off your hands will equal 5-years in the reeducation camp … I’m looking at 25-30 years. All Hail Dear Leader Newsom!

Reply to  kenji
July 8, 2024 4:23 am

You can bet pretty Newsom has good fixtures to wash his coiffure.

Reply to  Tom Halla
July 8, 2024 12:21 am

A drill solves all flow restriction problems on “water saving” flow control devices in about 2 seconds.

Flow control is established just fine with the original valves that came with the indoor plumbing.

Of course in Nut Case California, Jerry Brown required all fixture devices sold to have secondary flow control to limit your choice in the matter. He said the reason is that the world is running out of water, when in fact there is just as much water on earth as there ever was.

Still, no one ever explained why flow restrictions were needed on toilet valves, but they are included. Apparently, how fast your toilet bowl refills before it shuts off is a serious concern for water conservation Nut Cases.

Reply to  Tom Halla
July 8, 2024 8:00 am

I’ve seen plumbers remove flow restrictors on the new head when replacing shower heads.

missoulamike
July 7, 2024 2:19 pm

Grauniad. No need to read it unless you are looking for a cringey chuckle.

Bryan A
Reply to  missoulamike
July 7, 2024 3:13 pm

Now now, reading the Grauniad is no different than peeling an onion.

Reply to  Bryan A
July 7, 2024 4:12 pm

And rubbing your eyes between each layer.

Or putting Dencorub in someone’s jockstrap. !

Bill Toland
Reply to  missoulamike
July 8, 2024 12:11 am

I’m old enough to remember when the Guardian was actually a decent newspaper. In the last 40 years it has been steadily degenerating into a propaganda outlet for extreme left policies. This process has accelerated in the last decade to the point where the Guardian is unreadable. In particular, the innumeracy in the Guardian has reached the point where I wonder if any Guardian columnists can count up to to 10. Of course, this helps to explain why the Guardian is so fanatically supportive of Britain’s insane net zero policies.

Reply to  Bill Toland
July 8, 2024 1:31 am

It’s not been the same since they stopped calling it The Manchester Guardian. It’s just a joke these days.

Reply to  Bill Toland
July 8, 2024 5:45 am

Same w the Observer. It is clear to see the trajectory. But i was surprised that the usually very independent The Economist has fallen for some of those ideas especially climate change alarmism. That is profoundly sad. I used to buy that magazine because the articles were well written even though i often did not agree w their conclusions.
Because the many anomalies in regards to climate are so easy to spot it seems that the climate alarm cult has managed to lobotomise some of the writers.

John XB
Reply to  Bill Toland
July 8, 2024 7:07 am

It’s the GRAUNIAD. So Christened after an occasion last Century when it misspelled its own name – as indicated – in its masthead.

strativarius
July 7, 2024 2:22 pm

They always call it a culture war

That speaks volumes

Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  strativarius
July 7, 2024 6:00 pm

Trump is making climate the latest culture war?

They started this culture war, every last bit of it — climate, CRT, BLM, gender fluidentity, pronouns, rainbow crosswalks, drag queen reading hours.

Bunch of coconutty maroons.

July 7, 2024 2:26 pm

Is ‘populism’ the result of the majority thinking for themselves, instead of thinking what the elite tell them to think?

If so, no wonder it’s considered a bad thing – at least in the eyes of the elite.

I heard a German joke (reported by a German): “If you get an electric vehicle, you may as well get a dog as well. That way you don’t have to walk home alone.”

It refers to the availability of charging stations.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  No one
July 7, 2024 2:44 pm

It appears that populism, thinking for oneself, and placing your family and your country first are all synonymous. No wonder WEF doesn’t like it.

Reply to  No one
July 8, 2024 5:47 am

Populism is bad when certain parties do not like the outcome. It is good when the likes of Tony Blair and Obama come to power using the same methods.

John XB
Reply to  ballynally
July 8, 2024 7:08 am

Have you ever seen them together in the same room?

MarkW
Reply to  ballynally
July 8, 2024 9:55 am

Socialists wants to use government to get stuff for themselves.
Populists want to use government to get stuff for themselves and make sure nobody does anything they don’t like.

Two sides of the same big government coin.

Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 2:33 pm

Quite the green rant. Means two things.

  1. Milman knows Biden is toast, yet if he goes Harris is worse. Trump is virtually now guaranteed the 2024 election. Too BIG to Steal.
  2. Milman knows that Trump will do in his second term exactly what he is promising his rally crowds. Milman himself provides a good starter list—horrifying to him but making me smile. And it will be easier for Trump with Chevron deference gone and absolute immunity for core presidential acts now clearly established, plus presumptive immunity for all official acts. Shuts down a lot of Biden lawfare..

It is amusing to see DC howling in despair just like Milman. Schiff says Trump would fail a cognition test, ignoring that he took MoCA twice and aced both times (maximum score is 30, mild cognitive impairment 25 or below, moderate cognitive impairment 17 or below). Biden on a good day would score around 20. Dr. Jill railing at anyone who openly says Biden should step aside. Pundits saying if Biden cannot stop Trump, then get someone who can at an open DNC convention—ignoring that if Dems pick anyone but Harris they lose Biden’s already raised $260million funds plus the ‘women’ and ‘color’ votes they rely on. Yet if it’s Harris they lose bigger because she is that bad. Dems stole (provable six different ways) the 2020 election with a flawed candidate. Now the chickens have come home to roost. Second half of 2024 is gonna be fun except for greenies and Dems.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 2:51 pm

Biden was never more than a puppet. Those who pulled the strings hid that from the public from when he first ran.
The debate showed that his own strings to cognize have been cut.
Now they want to replace him since they can’t fool the public about him any longer.
(I mean, sheesh! Even in the most controlled Presidential debate (in his favor) in history, he still caved.)

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Gunga Din
July 7, 2024 3:16 pm

Worse than caved. Showed serious elderly impairment both cognitively and physically. They could well be related by Parkinsonism disease, which has several forms.

Bryan A
Reply to  Gunga Din
July 7, 2024 3:24 pm

Now, now… He was…mmm…sick, yeah that’s it, he was sick
And…He was…mmm…Tired, yeah that’s it, he was tired
And…He was…mmm…Jet Lagged, yeah that’s it, he was jet lagged
And…He was…mmm…Just having an off day, yeah that’s it, just having an off day
And he was just having a Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day…yeah that’s it

Reply to  Bryan A
July 7, 2024 4:07 pm

same as every other day.

Reply to  SteveG
July 8, 2024 5:57 am

Already for 4 years

He is stair challenged, bicycle challenged, podium challenged, teleprompter challenged

Still good at fondling and sniffing, but Jill pulls him away, before he gets a chance

C’mon man give me a break,
I know I am older but my brain is finished.

Give me 4 more, and you will see what else I cannot do

antigtiff
Reply to  Bryan A
July 7, 2024 4:31 pm

C’mon man….Joey was tired and sleepy cause his staff over prepared him….see? Joey don’t need no stinkin’ cognitive test….cause he can’t pass one…who ya’ gonna believe? Joey or your lyin’ eyes?

Reply to  antigtiff
July 7, 2024 9:17 pm

He had a 3 and a half year long “cold”.
(Maybe a 40 year long “cold”?)

Reply to  Bryan A
July 8, 2024 8:07 am

CNN intentionally made him look bad because they want Trump to win. Yes, some are saying that.

Reply to  Tony_G
July 9, 2024 7:56 am

Trump only had to keep quiet while Biden buried himself.

The really funny thing is that CNN tried to rig the “debate” in Biden’s favour, but ended up handing Trump a huge win.

Reply to  Bryan A
July 8, 2024 8:21 am

Campbell, the former chief propaganda under Blair said Biden suffered from a knee injury. Now, who wouldnt trust HIM?

Bryan A
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 3:17 pm

Biden MIGHT score 20 if he has Dr Jill whispering the answers in his ear via the old Secret Service ear pieces.

Scissor
Reply to  Bryan A
July 7, 2024 4:04 pm

I thought that maybe it was Jimmy Carter.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Bryan A
July 7, 2024 4:24 pm

My very recently deceased beloved significant other took the MoCA 4 times over 5 years under supervision of first a consulting neurologist from Cleveland Clinic after a hospitalization for acute PTSD, then her new psychiatrist (treating her PTSD), and then twice her new neurologist at the reference request of her primary care physician because of recent serious falls/possible dementia. Scores were 25, 20, 17, 15 over five years. I mentally scored 30 all four times. Is very painful to experience. Been there, done that. MoCA takes 30-45 minutes. Is Bog standard first cognitive impairment screening—hence the name, Montreal Cognitive Assessment.

Cleveland Clinic wanted her to go thru a second 3 hour detailed followup to isolate impairments by type. What the doctors like Jackson and Gupta are recommending.

Erik Magnuson
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 6:06 pm

Sorry to hear about losing your S.O. Never a good time to lose a loved one.

Bryan A
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 7:21 pm

My grandfather had Alzheimer’s and went from riding bicycle at 78 hands free to passing at 82 without any familial recognition. Not fun times for sure.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 8, 2024 7:04 am

My condolences for losing your beloved. I hope you have plenty of good memories to offset the loss.
I’m glad you are still with us. I enjoy hearing your insights.

Reply to  Bryan A
July 7, 2024 8:34 pm

Even the Democrats are starting to ask him to leave.

Bryan A
Reply to  scvblwxq
July 8, 2024 6:23 am

And apparently Dr Jill is likely having none of it. Joey listens to his favorite Dr.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 4:07 pm

It’s not looking good for a 4th Obama term..

Reply to  SteveG
July 7, 2024 9:45 pm

Hold on a sec, don’t rule out a first female President, and one who is actually black.

I know this is well beyond a left-handed compliment, but the person I’m thinking of would be better than the queen of cackle.

Reply to  philincalifornia
July 8, 2024 12:35 am

Ex President’s wives who believe they should run for President too have horrible track records.

Reply to  doonman
July 8, 2024 4:21 am

Michelle doesn’t want to run for president.

Michelle said she never felt any pride in her country until they elected her husband as president.

We don’t want a president who has no pride in the nation. We want someone who actually likes the nation.

J Boles
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 4:48 pm

I heard of lots of proof of a stolen election but then nothing came of it, Biden still there.

Tom Halla
Reply to  J Boles
July 7, 2024 5:00 pm

The courts revived the old “political question doctrine”, and punted.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  J Boles
July 7, 2024 9:24 pm

Ok. Let me give you the several categories of proof. You want details, I can email those.

  1. bell weather counties.. Trump won all three since Reagan, and all but one of 19 since Bush.
  2. enthusiasm. Two parts. One, spontaneous rallies. Two, he garnered 12.5 million votes more in 2020 than in 2016. Obama in second vote 2012 lost 0.5 million.
  3. Ballot harvesting, illustrated by 2000 mules and CCTV analysis.
  4. State specific cheat steals. My fav is Wisconsin, where Dane and Milwaukee Counties both declared (per state election law) that ‘indefinitely confined’ could get an absentee ballot without voter registration proof. In 2018, indefinitely confined was about 80,000. In 2020,it was about 250,000. The Wisconsin winner margin was about 21,000.
  5. Discrepant totals. For example, after the incorrect PA COVID ruling, the state still required a written mail in request. Per the PA se of state website (soon after deleted, 850k were requested but
  6. Fraudulent voter registration roles as evidenced in Arizona. 40 mail in votes from a single vacant lot should not count.

The concerted MSM effort to deny all of the above.is sufficient evidence.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 9:51 pm

All evidence, but not proof (as I know you know).

The one we really need to watch this time is the Steve Garvey v Adam Schiff-for-brains Senate seat. Quite a big deal actually. I’m gonna see what’s planned for that vote count and hoping there’s a good team involved. Mr Garvey knows a bit about teamwork.

Reply to  philincalifornia
July 8, 2024 12:58 am

Steve Garvey was real popular in LA County, the one with 10 million people in it. Same is true in Riverside County, San Bernadino County and Orange County.

But that was 40 years ago. Vin Scully and Tommy Lasorda are dead along with hundreds of thousands of other Dodger fans. Soccer and cock fight fans probably don’t know who he is.

Reply to  philincalifornia
July 8, 2024 4:33 am

Adam Schiff is the biggest liar in Congress, and that’a saying something.

Anyone who would vote for Adam Schiff is a Damn Fool for trying to put a person this dangerous in a position of power.

Radical, Bald-faced Liar, Adam Schiff is a threat to the American system of government.

There is a special place in Hell for Adam Schiff.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 8, 2024 8:07 am

Phony-radical.

Phony-everything really.

Reply to  philincalifornia
July 8, 2024 5:58 am

Proof is what a judge or jury considers as such. It needs a verdict, whether it is fair or not. It is something Trump supporters will have to get over because you can’t go back. Let’s leave the 2020 election f what it is and concentrate on 2024. What are the chances of the Democrats not contesting the outcome in case Trump wins? Or the Republicans for that matter if the Dem candidate wins?
Politics has gotten really rotten..We live in several different universes w parasitic minds on both sides.

Reply to  ballynally
July 8, 2024 8:15 am

Yes, the judges, the finders of fact, never took it to a verdict because there wasn’t enough evidence for trying it (at the time). This is different from the phony-leftist liars proclaiming that Trump’s claims are false. They’ve never been shown to be false but shallow, lazy and lying people still parrot it.

MarkW
Reply to  philincalifornia
July 8, 2024 10:01 am

That was one of the outs.
In a lot of cases they decided that the plaintiffs did not have standing to sue.
In others they claimed that their court was not the right venue for such a case.
In others they declared that since the election was over, there was no remedy available, so no need to have a trial.

Interested Observer
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 10:06 pm

Yeah, but it wasn’t “widespread” cheating so, that’s alright according to the Democrats. I mean, how much more blatant does it have to be before it’s considered “widespread”? Shouldn’t any cheating be investigated thoroughly?

Just wait, if Trump wins in November, the Democrats will be wailing about “widespread” cheating by him and, if they have any power left, there will be investigations aplenty. If you want to see an insurrection, watch what the Dems will do to subvert the 2024 elections – delays, challenges, any and everything they can try to make sure it’s “Never Trump” again.

[I saw the evidence for all the points on your list as it happened and I believe my “lyin’ eyes”.]

Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 8, 2024 4:38 am

When I went to bed on election night in 2020, Trump was ahead in Pennsylvania by 600,000 votes.

When I woke up the next morning, Biden had been declared the winner in Pennsylvania.

Hundreds of thousands of votes came into Pennsylvania overnight, and Biden supposedly got 85 percent of them.

Does it sound plausible to anyone that Trump would only get 15 percent of that vote?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 8, 2024 8:22 am

No. After that, I made a point of watching the Perdue Ossoff Senate vote count in Georgia. Anyone could watch them faking that one on live TV, by the same method.

As I said above, we all need to watch the California Garvey v Schiff-for-brains election and its mail-in votes, given that Trump v whoever probably won’t be close.

Chris
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 13, 2024 9:37 am

Nice list. I know you know, but the point is not to look back but to learn from this and plug the holes so it cant be repeated in Nov. Can’t wait to see the total number of votes for each side this Nov, there’ll be the cheating plus the as yet uncounted undocumented and we’ll be exceeding to total registered number of voters

Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 8:22 pm

The Democrats are urging Biden not to run again. Now it the Republicans would get a good candidate there might be a good future for the country. Trump left office with 6 percent unemployment. 26 women have accused him of rape or sexual assault. Even he said the when he sees a beautiful women he goes up and starts kissing her.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 7, 2024 9:55 pm

Post a link where he says that definitively and undoctored. The groping p*ssy hoax was just that, like every other one. DemoRat playbook, now exposed by the big guy himself (as if we didn’t all know already).

Interested Observer
Reply to  scvblwxq
July 7, 2024 9:55 pm

Even he said…” But isn’t Trump a massive liar? I mean, you can’t have it both ways.

“26 women have accused him…” How many of those have gone to trial? One? How many would make the accusations if they weren’t allowed to profit from it?

“6 percent unemployment” You mean during all the Covid lockdowns enacted by Democrat state governments?

Typical misdirection and obfuscation. Do you write for the Grauniad?

[FWIW I don’t like Trump as a person but, I believe he was actually a decent President by modern standards. Biden, on the other hand… well, I always defer to President B.O.’s opinion of him – “Never underestimate Joe’s ability to f*ck things up”.]

Reply to  Interested Observer
July 7, 2024 11:20 pm

“26 women have accused him…””

Trump was a very eligible and wealthy bachelor at one stage…

… just saying !!

Reply to  Interested Observer
July 8, 2024 4:51 am

““26 women have accused him…” How many of those have gone to trial? One?”

Yes, just one, and that one under special circumstances, where the New York State Legislature got involved to help the accuser by suspending the Statue of Limitations temporarily, so she could file her case in court. And then we have a biased prosecuor, and judge in the case and a New York jury.

“How many would make the accusations if they weren’t allowed to profit from it?”

I don’t know that any of them profited from it, other than maybe Stormy. My guess is most or all were politically motivated to make these claims against Trump. But the accusations obviously were not solid enough for any of them to bring a lawsuit against Trump.

Reply to  Interested Observer
July 8, 2024 8:11 am

SC prefers media lies to actual facts when it comes to Trump. No amount of evidence will change his mind, he’s too blinded by emotion.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 8, 2024 4:43 am

“26 women have accused him of rape or sexual assault.”

Democrats are quite capable of generating false stories about Trump.

You choose to believe them. You have TDS.

I choose not to believe them, since there is no evidence Trump raped or sexually assaulted anyone. Trump still says he didn’t have sex with Stormy Daniels. He said so last week.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 8, 2024 8:14 am

I once read all the accusations. Most were things like walking into dressing rooms. And almost all of them were not publicly raised until he announced for President.

Reply to  Tony_G
July 8, 2024 3:02 pm

“And almost all of them were not publicly raised until he announced for President.”

That’s right.

One woman claimed Trump groped her while on an airplane flight, right in front of everyone around.

Eye witnesses say it never happened.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 11, 2024 12:59 pm

Funny how those are “credible” but the election interference in 2016 – Russia Collusion, Steele Dossier – fabricated by Clinton and the DNC were just fine.
Funny how an 11 year old audio tape of 2 guy yakking on a bus came out when it did. Funny how an adult film star, script writer, and producer, obviously adept in her work, came out after over a decade, then reverse her denials by saying she was coerced (by her lawyers?) to deny.
Funny how JRB, the DNC, CIA, etc. could put out a false piece to protect the candidate, but that’s ok. That’s just politics.
Basically, all is fair in elections if Dems do it, but is a high crime/felony if Reps do it.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 8, 2024 8:28 am

Perhaps but the country has to go through Trump to get to the other side. He’s still the best bet. I tad loose on truth and reconciliation and rather a bully and stubborn to a high degree but when dealing w Putin and Xi you need a strongman and a dealmaker. And to halt Net Zero lunacy.

Derg
Reply to  scvblwxq
July 8, 2024 7:10 pm

Please name all these accusers

observa
Reply to  scvblwxq
July 8, 2024 10:20 pm

No other Dem wants the poison chalice now and you’re stuck with sleepy or gigglepot as the Democrat Watergate unfolds-
DAN MCLAUGHLIN: Mad King Joe won’t go! (msn.com)
The lamestream lickspittle media that ran cover for the puppeteering are trying to save face now as best they can falling all over themselves to be seen as real journos and they have plenty of leaking material to work with as the rats desert the sinking ship.

Edward Katz
July 7, 2024 2:34 pm

When 29% of people polled say they’d consider buying an electric car, the number who’ll actually go through with the purchase is likely to be at best 15%.On New Year’s Day if 29% make the resolution to lose weight and improve fitness, I’d be surprised if even half of those actually went through with their promises long term. That’s the reason that new EV sales in the US were only 8% of the total number of vehicles sold last year. It’s easy to consider a new EV, but when the costs, even with subsidies, are considered, the enthusiasm wears off fast. Never mind the concern about public charging stations as most buyers will keep their charges up at home. Just lower the sticker prices to make them competitive with their gas/diesel counterparts and we’ll see, and even then it will take a long time for them to achieve parity, let along dominance.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Edward Katz
July 7, 2024 3:07 pm

A few little EV economic details. Initial cost is high. Insurance for repairs is very high. Range anxiety is high. Resale value is low. Biden thinks that is all OK—except we now know maybe he cannot think well at all.

Quite the first debate performance. Biden excuses now include jet lag from a EU trip 12 days ago (Air Force pilot rule is one day recovery per 3 hours lag), a cold, over preparation at Camp David (for a week), Trump intimidation during debate (even tho his Mike was off when not his turn), just a bad night—anything but cognitive impairment probably coupled with some form of Parkinsonism (Biden spent 90 minutes displaying virtually all the classic symptoms except tremor).

So in his Friday ABC Stephanopolous interview Biden adamantly refused to get tested, after which it comes out that Walter Reed’s top Parkinsonism neurologist has visited the White House physician 7 times in the last 9 months per WH visitor logs. There are drugs that help, for example Carbodopa/levodopa. But the effect varies day to day. Worked for SOTU (plus he was on something more given the anger), but not for first debate where ‘something more anger’ would have been a problem.

MarkW
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 5:54 pm

Seems the White House doctor, the one who kept telling everyone that Biden was having no problems, has been engaged in several business opportunities with the Biden family.
Opportunities that could become less valuable if Biden wasn’t president.

Interested Observer
Reply to  MarkW
July 7, 2024 10:12 pm

Opportunities that could become less valuable if Biden wasn’t president.

Oh, there are lots of people in that boat, starting with Jill and Hunter. Joe won’t be able to pardon Hunter for any crimes for which he’s convicted after Joe has left office.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 11, 2024 1:01 pm

I have to wonder what the casualty count would have been a few years back when I-95 in Virginia closed for 26 hours due to snow and ice, had those thousands of cars all been EVs.

Bryan A
Reply to  Edward Katz
July 7, 2024 3:28 pm

Even if, as seemingly proposed, they Increase the cost of ICVs to match EVs (via fees for not meeting EV sales quotas) ICVs will still out sell EVs 10/1 much like they do now.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Bryan A
July 11, 2024 1:02 pm

Maryland just passed a significant tax on EVs during vehicle registration due to the vehicles not paying gasoline tax.

Bob
July 7, 2024 2:35 pm

I have news for these CAGW clowns we don’t need Donald Trump to tell us how pitiful wind, solar and EVs are. We can see it with our own eyes. Same goes for the war on gas furnaces and stoves, we know they work better. How can we save water if we have to flush two or three times to get a turd down? I’ve had it with these outlaw environmentalists, they are never satisfied. We all want efficient appliances but we don’t look to environmentalists for what standards we should follow. They don’t know a damn thing.

July 7, 2024 2:36 pm

My memory is a bit fuzzy on this but, among the first things Trump did his first term was to make changes to the EPA’s scientific advisory board. It has a “name” but I don’t remember it.
Again, memory is a bit fuzzy, but only those who’s grants didn’t depend on it’s recommendations could be on it.
How is that a bad approach?

Reply to  Gunga Din
July 8, 2024 4:57 am

The Democrats are trying to figure out ways to keep Trump from firing thousands of bureacrats if he were to win the 2024 election.

Biden and the bureaucrats are trying to write administrative orders to thrwart Trump, but that will only slow Trump down a little.

Do a search on “Trump and Schedule F”

Never mind, I did it for everyone. Here’s an overview:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-plan-gut-civil-service-triggers-pushback-by-unions-democrats-2023-12-22/

Mr.
July 7, 2024 2:44 pm

The Greens have never grasped the indisputable fact that all species seek and thrive in conditions of plenty, not scarcity.

And there is nature-imposed competition between all species for resources to survive and thrive.

Maybe The Greens are beset by some idea that Nature has endowed them with a special dispensation from having to compete with all other species for survival resources?

Either that, or their Hierarchy Of Needs pyramid cuts out at a level below the lowest rung –
“Physiological Needs” (air, water, food, shelter, sleep, clothing, reproduction).

Not for them the higher needs of the human species that the rest of us are programmed to seek –
Safety
Love & Belonging
Esteem
Self-Actualization

MarkW
Reply to  Mr.
July 7, 2024 5:57 pm

Most greens think mankind has “thrived” too much. They seek to cut back humanity by huge amounts.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MarkW
July 11, 2024 12:00 pm

No. Only if you are white and especially if you are a white male. Only those have “thrived” too much.

Chris Hanley
July 7, 2024 3:31 pm

‘It’s nonsensical’: how Trump is making climate the latest culture war

🤣 That’s like the Goebbels media machine blaming Britain for starting WW2 by opposing the German invasions of Poland Denmark Norway Belgium Holland and France.

Bryan A
Reply to  Chris Hanley
July 7, 2024 4:16 pm

Great analogy!!!

MarkW
Reply to  Chris Hanley
July 7, 2024 5:58 pm

Socialists have always defined peace as the absence of opposition to their plans.

Editor
Reply to  MarkW
July 7, 2024 7:47 pm

And democracy as their authority.

July 7, 2024 3:33 pm

woken from a nightmare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TogbPPyQQM

rewards hard work and effort

So you think voting for a spoiled rich kid that hasn’t worked a day in his life will bring that back?

Scissor
Reply to  MyUsername
July 7, 2024 4:11 pm

I laugh that leftists think anyone other than idiots believe their shit. Biden culture is entertaining as hell. Maybe the MSM will discover Ashley’s diary and her inappropriate showers with dad.

MarkW
Reply to  Scissor
July 7, 2024 6:01 pm

Those on the left have always tried to push the notion that white collar work, isn’t work.

Bryan A
Reply to  MyUsername
July 7, 2024 4:17 pm

Envy the ability to create wealth much???

Reply to  Bryan A
July 7, 2024 10:42 pm

And employ lots of people. But entrepreneurs who generate wealth and create jobs are an abomination to extreme leftist pajama boys living in their parents’ basement with endless leisure to criticize the achievers.

MarkW
Reply to  stinkerp
July 8, 2024 10:10 am

Of the jobs created last month, at least 1/3rd of them were government jobs.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  MyUsername
July 7, 2024 4:32 pm

You are nuts. Trump earned every bit of his fortune, granted with a bit of a head start from his Dad that his niece Mary has never forgiven since her own father failed miserably from the same head start. Get over your terminal TDS.

Scissor
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 7, 2024 4:57 pm

Perhaps he’s a grabbedbytrumpophobe.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 8, 2024 3:27 am

“bit of head start”? By that you mean that he would be richer today if he invested the money left to him in the stock market rather than going bankrupt multiple times.

Derg
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 3:49 am

Izaak are you asking Trump to go on the dole?

MarkW
Reply to  Derg
July 8, 2024 10:12 am

Trump’s paid more in taxes, than Izzy will ever earn.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
July 8, 2024 11:48 pm

Not in the last few years he hasn’t…….. and what’s more he gloated about it.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 4:01 am

You poor jealous little worm.

Most people learn from their mistakes, as Trump has.

Fought back to be a very rich self-sustaining person.

Your whole life has been one long mistake… and you haven’t learnt a single worthwhile thing.

Reply to  bnice2000
July 8, 2024 4:51 am

With 400 million from daddy it’s not hard to be a self-sustaining person.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
July 8, 2024 10:14 am

First off, plenty of people have blown fortunes a lot larger than that.
Trump took that money and increased it many times over.

What have you done with your life. Redecorating your mom’s basement does not count.

Reply to  MyUsername
July 8, 2024 1:35 pm

How much is he worth now !!!

You, on the other hand, aren’t worth a nose hair or a gob of ear wax.

Reply to  MyUsername
July 8, 2024 11:19 pm

Solyndra went bankrupt with 500 million from Obama.

MarkW
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 10:12 am

A couple of the companies Trump started went bankrupt.
So what. Lots of companies go bankrupt.
You haters will latch onto anything in order to justify yourselves.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 6:11 pm

How many times did Trump declare personal bankruptcy, retard?

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 9, 2024 8:03 am

He’s incomparably richer than you. That counts as failure in your book?

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 9, 2024 8:09 am

Some of his companies went bust, but he has never been bankrupt. Since the failure rate for new companies is 90% after 10 years, this is hardly a record of failure.

I’ll bet my bottom dollar you have never founded or run a company, or even a lemonade stand.

cgh
Reply to  MyUsername
July 7, 2024 5:03 pm

What you write hardly matters. Like Oliver, you are just another socialist soyboy lamenting the disaster which is about to befall you in November. Enjoy the ride while you circle the bowl.

Reply to  cgh
July 7, 2024 8:39 pm

The Democratic politicians are starting to ask Biden not to run again. Now if only the Republicans would do the same we might have a good new president next year.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 7, 2024 10:21 pm

we might have a good new president next year.”

If Trump wins, You will. !

Reply to  bnice2000
July 8, 2024 4:52 am

He said president, not dictator.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
July 8, 2024 10:15 am

And once again, loserName believes what he is told to believe and does no investigation of his own.

Reply to  MyUsername
July 8, 2024 1:38 pm

And he will get a President.

Your read skills are minimal, aren’t they.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  MyUsername
July 8, 2024 6:13 pm

You are so stupid. How could he become a dictator?

Reply to  MyUsername
July 9, 2024 8:11 am

The Trump administration never tried to put its opponents in prison, unlike Biden.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MyUsername
July 11, 2024 12:05 pm

Trump said, if elected, he would be dictator for 1 day (on day 1). That has been purposefully rebuild into just dictator.

JRB when he started did exactly what a dictator would do. He through out the good and the bad and then issued executive orders circumventing Congress over and over again and when overruled by the Supreme Court, went to plan be to but the votes piecemeal.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 8, 2024 5:04 am

“Now if only the Republicans would do the same”

They won’t. Give it up. Trump will be the nominee and probably the president, if the Democrat cheating can be successfully dealth with.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 8, 2024 11:51 pm

So what will you do Tom if Trump wins and the Dems decide it was stolen? Because that is what happened last time…. in reverse.

Reply to  Simon
July 9, 2024 3:13 am

I’ll do what I did last time Trump won: Laugh at the pathetic Democrats and their antics, and enjoy the tenure of Donald Trump.

Reply to  Simon
July 9, 2024 8:14 am

Several senior Dems are going to have severe legal problems once the incoming Trump Administration clears out the corruption in the DOJ.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Simon
July 11, 2024 12:08 pm

Pelosi and Clinton claimed prior to the 2016 election that if Trump won it was only because he cheated. To this day, Clinton repeats that Trump stole or hijacked the election or Trump was an illegitimate President.

Reply to  MyUsername
July 7, 2024 5:57 pm

Trump has done more in his life than 20-50 of your pathetic little worm-like comrades could ever do.

Reply to  bnice2000
July 7, 2024 8:43 pm

26 women have accused him of rape and sexual harassment, even during the years when he was a Democrat. He even said when he sees a beautiful woman he goes up and starts kissing her, uninvited.

Trump has changed parties 6 times. he might even go back to being a Democrat if elected and the price is right.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 7, 2024 9:57 pm

Your TDS is totally out of control.

You sound like you have a massive fetish !!

Simon
Reply to  bnice2000
July 8, 2024 11:52 pm

Ah the “TDS” card. The domain of those with no plausible argument.

Reply to  Simon
July 9, 2024 9:21 am

There is no “plausible argument” against delusions.

Interested Observer
Reply to  scvblwxq
July 7, 2024 10:21 pm

go back to being a Democrat …”

Fat chance. He’s essentially his own party at this point and his party is “Pro-America”. Hard to find support for that among the Democrats.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 8, 2024 8:22 am

he might even go back to being a Democrat

You are totally delusional.

MarkW
Reply to  Tony_G
July 8, 2024 10:16 am

Most TDS’ers are.

Mr.
Reply to  MyUsername
July 7, 2024 5:59 pm

You ignored the most important element of free enterprise –
the risk – reward assessment, undertaking and commitment.

“Skin in the game” is an alien concept to leftists.

Reply to  Mr.
July 8, 2024 4:54 am

Starting with 400 million into life is a bit different risk-reward than most of us have. Or did you get millions from your family to play around? Why do people on the right are always such apologists for any form of birth right and aristocracy?

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
July 8, 2024 10:19 am

Not only are you delusional, you are as forgetful as your candidate.
How many times does this lie have to be refuted before you stop repeating it?
Many people, especially those with left wing tendencies, have blown fortunes much greater than that.
Trump took that money and multiplied it many times over.

What have you done with your life?

As to aristocracy, that describes the left wind punjees who believe that they are entitled to rule.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MarkW
July 11, 2024 12:10 pm

H. Clinton stated she should have won 2016 because she was “born to be President.”

Reply to  MyUsername
July 8, 2024 1:43 pm

You poor little jealous piece of slime.

Trump is worth far more now that when he inherited.

You will always remain an ignorant and worthless piece of human trash.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
July 7, 2024 5:59 pm

If you think Trump has never worked, you are even more delusional than your mother says.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  MarkW
July 8, 2024 3:35 am

You are right. It takes a lot of effort to go bankrupt when you own several casinos. Not to mention Trump Uni and all the other businesses that he has run into the ground. While Truth Social is losing money hand over fist.

Derg
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 3:47 am

I defect some jealousy from the Marxist 🧐🧐

MarkW
Reply to  Derg
July 8, 2024 10:23 am

When you are a loser like Izzy, hatred of those who are successful is par for the course.

Simon
Reply to  Derg
July 8, 2024 11:54 pm

And I “defect” your spelling is defective……

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 4:02 am

And then to fight back and become a multi-millionaire.

Try not to be a jealous little worm,

Try not to be a total loser at everything you do.

Reply to  bnice2000
July 8, 2024 7:35 am

You have a typo. Trump is a billionaire.

He has so much of his own money, he donated his presidential salary to charity. Reportedly, he is very generous to people down on their luck without calling for a press conference and photo op. A good Samaritan without the fanfare.

If I remember correctly, he got a million from his dad to start and he has tried several business ventures. He used bankruptcy tax laws to his advantage but, never went bankrupt.

I don’t approve of a bunch of his practices but, he has proven to be a positive advocate for the vast majority of the citizenry, not just the elites. A rising tide lifts all boats but, the elites just want only their boats to rise.

FJB

MarkW
Reply to  Brad-DXT
July 8, 2024 10:25 am

My ex-wife’s uncle was a fire fighter who was killed by a disgruntled ex-employee. Trump set up a scholarship fund for his two children. No press conferences called.

MarkW
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 8, 2024 10:22 am

Like most people on the left, Izaak is proud of his ignorance.
Trump has many companies. A small number of them went bankrupt. As for the casino, most of the casino’s in Atlantic CIty suffered once online gambling became legal. Trump’s casino wasn’t alone in losing a lot of money.
Why don’t you try learning a little for yourself, instead of just spouting whatever is in this weeks talking points memo?

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
July 7, 2024 6:02 pm

How many days of work has perpetual politician Biden put in during his life?

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  MarkW
July 8, 2024 6:15 pm

He drove a truck.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MarkW
July 11, 2024 12:12 pm

Does it count as a work day from 10 am to 4 pm with an 8 pm bed time?

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  MyUsername
July 8, 2024 6:10 pm

That’s why we won’t vote for Biden. He hasn’t done one useful thing his entire life.

Chris Hanley
July 7, 2024 4:35 pm

One of The Guardian’s so-called experts is quoted: “There is a long history in the conservative movement of making fun of bureaucrats and experts making us do these nanny state things, like putting handrails on mountain paths or airbags in cars”, quite so.
A silly combination of examples obviously you can choose to use a handrail or not and although they ought to be an option (IMO) air bags do not interfere or restrict in any way except when needed.
But they are examples of the tactics the nanny state uses ratcheting up their restrictions on freedom of consumer choice as can seen in California.

David Wojick
Reply to  Chris Hanley
July 7, 2024 5:33 pm

Yes, consider banning ICE cars versus mandating air bags on the totalitarian scale. One very high the other very low.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  David Wojick
July 7, 2024 8:43 pm

I don’t understand your comment David but I would be guided by J S Mill who accepts the role of the state may by to recommend guide or even exhort competent adults to avoid harm to themselves one way or another but it is an individual’s choice: “The mischief begins when, instead of calling forth the activity and powers of individuals and bodies, it substitutes its own activity for theirs; when, instead of informing, advising, and, upon occasion, denouncing, it makes them work in fetters, or bids them stand aside and does their work instead of them” (On Liberty).

Reply to  Chris Hanley
July 8, 2024 6:12 am

Using JS Mill used to be a thing of the Left to warn about things like authoritarianism. Now they have switched from progression to regression they need the authoritarianism (as the Marxists always do). Just remember: the Enlightenment is only as good as you can use it for your own needs but becomes an obstruction if it goes against you. Defending ‘democracy’ by suspending it, that kind of warped logic. It is a very specific kind of stupidity that only intellectuals could come up with..

MarkW
Reply to  Chris Hanley
July 7, 2024 6:05 pm

One of the common tactics used by those on the left is to use false equivalencies. To them if one regulation is useful, that proves that all regulations are useful.
Likewise, if you oppose any regulation, that means you want to get rid of all regulations, if not government itself.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  MarkW
July 7, 2024 8:58 pm

Of course some regulations are necessary for a society to work like everyone driving on the same side of the road, I’m alluding to state regulations that have no social utility but that are imposed for ‘one’s own good’.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  MarkW
July 7, 2024 9:13 pm

Petty regulations further what governments want viz. a docile population.

antigtiff
July 7, 2024 4:40 pm

Some EVs catch on fire but a smaller no. start emitting a gas at a rapid rate before exploding…this applies to lithium batteries in general…..have seen a video of an E mini bike in an apartment in China emitting the white smoke before going bang.

Scissor
Reply to  antigtiff
July 7, 2024 5:00 pm

Chinese robots in battle will be interesting.

2hotel9
July 7, 2024 6:50 pm

Yes!!!! Greentards are non-nonsensical. Good catch!!!!!!

Bryan A
Reply to  2hotel9
July 7, 2024 7:16 pm

And inherently nonessential except in their own minds

Simon
Reply to  2hotel9
July 8, 2024 11:54 pm

You didn’t mention lying…….

2hotel9
Reply to  Simon
July 9, 2024 4:32 am

Your are here lying just as you always do, simpleminded. Now, where are all the pictures of your Ford electric truck, liar?

Reply to  2hotel9
July 9, 2024 5:41 am

All the usual communists are hysterical with non-nonsensical whining.

July 7, 2024 10:32 pm

…former US president and convicted felon…

Like “far right,” “extreme right,” “racist,” “sexist,” “homophobe,” “xenophobe,” “bigot,” and others, the use of “president and convicted felon” is another clear sign that an extreme leftist is in our midst, unable to form coherent arguments and resorting to name-calling, the most juvenile form of attack. I’m looking forward to the appeals courts overturning Trump’s false felony conviction so we can throw it back in their faces.

Ever notice that there are no people on “the right” in the news anymore? They’re always described now as “far right” and “extreme right,” while everyone else is “center-left” or “left”. The “right” disappeared. Another clear sign of the descent of the media into extreme-left madness, no longer bridled by pretensions to being “unbiased” though they would villify you if you pointed out their naked bias.

Reply to  stinkerp
July 7, 2024 11:26 pm

Musk put it nicely in this cartoon..

… although, on the bottom line I would have used “marxist left” or “socialist left”

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Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  stinkerp
July 11, 2024 12:16 pm

You left out extreme Maga Republican.

rtj1211
July 8, 2024 2:26 am

What’s nonsensical is a total lack of scientific knowledge being transmuted into a totalitarian sense of entitled policy demands.

The evidence is clear that the more a person researches the science of ‘climate science’, the less wedded they become to catastrophist green religion….

July 8, 2024 5:14 am

Trump has a lot of rules and regulations to cut when he gets back in Office.

it was reported the other day that during the Reagan Administration of the 1980’s, there were about 3,500 federal rules and regulations in effect.

The number of federal rules and regulations today in 2024, is about 350,000.

Trump will be very busy.

July 8, 2024 5:18 am

The thing to recognize and to keep repeating is: This is not ‘climate action’. What they are so eager to do will have, can have, no effect on climate. Its energy policy, having no more to do with climate than asking everyone to stand on their heads.

July 8, 2024 5:35 am

Ah, the Guardian. Used to be a pretty good paper housing sceptics and investigative journalists. Like the Observer and many others, the shift from critique to agenda pushers is pretty big. It is so obvious only a fool, an idiot or a biased agent will deny that. There is nothing the Guardian guards or the Observer observes that goes against the establishment narrative. Even when they wrote articles against the Tories which is pretty much a given, the critique was against light regulation and all for more and faster lockdowns during Covid, more compliance w Net Zero and green energy. Well, they should be happy now, Labour just put mr Covid, the lying and cheating Patrick Valance as SCIENCE minister. And mr Net Zero, Ed Milliband minister of Energy. God help the british..

John XB
July 8, 2024 6:38 am

“…  targeting energy efficiency standards…”

Efficiency, succinctly defined, is: maximum output for minimum input. Generally: increased efficiency aims to increase output whilst reducing input.

In the Fantasy World of Green, efficiency means reduce output by the most expensive means possible; reducing the effectiveness of anything that is effective.

cimdave
July 8, 2024 6:48 am

A good showerhead is one that will flay the skin off your a$$.

0perator
July 8, 2024 7:50 am

Hope everyone enjoyed their Two Minutes Hate with Orange Emmanuel Goldstein’s image was posted for The Party to yell at.