Biden may be oblivious to the fact that 96% of the world’s population is outside of America!
Published March 20, 2024 at America Out Load NEWS
Ronald Stein is an engineer, senior policy advisor on energy literacy for the Heartland Institute and CFACT, and co-author of the Pulitzer Prize nominated book “Clean Energy Exploitations.”
For one of the wealthier countries on this planet, America, with 330 million that represents about 4% of the world’s 8 billion on this planet, President Biden is speeding ahead with EV mandates to ditch most new gas cars by 2030.
Biden may not be cognizant that 80 percent of the 8 billion on this planet earning less than $10 a day, which is more than 6 billion on this earth, may never be able to enjoy the materialistic living styles of those in wealthier countries, nor ever own an automobile.
In America, the elites have bought EV’s, and the elites may continue to buy EV’s, BUT we’re quickly running out of elites!
- The average debt in America is almost $60,000 across credit cards, mortgages, auto loans, and student loans.
- The common folk need a workhorse vehicle, not just a second car toy that sits in the garage to be used on short ventures!
- The current EV ownership profiles are reflected in the oligarchic elite that are highly educated, highly compensated, multi-car families, with low mileage requirements for the families second car.
- Current EV owner profiles are dramatically different from most vehicle owners as they are single-car owners, not as highly educated, nor as highly compensated, and have higher mileage requirements for their workhorse vehicle.
Mandating a change to EV ownership and further austerity onto those that can least afford, the Nation and the other 96% on this planet may face a rebellion from those that need transportation.
Biden seems to be oblivious to the fact that there are more than 1.4 billion vehicles in the world, and almost 300 million trucks in the world, there’s been a mandate movement to have EV’s replace ICE vehicles to reduce emissions from the vehicular transportation sector.
Well, to-date, the mandate to EV’s has been a failure as we’re running short of elites that are buying them, and the auto manufacturers are starting to absorb the financial hits !
The previous worldwide gasoline usage peak was in 2019 before the Pandemic.
- Today, there are 30 million EVs on the world’s roads that are owned by the elites that can afford them, and are mainly 2nd vehicles parked in the garage, or with low mileage usage, vs the high mileage workhorse vehicles that are internal combustion engines.
- Today, there are also hundreds of millions of workers that now work virtually since the Pandemic and thus do not “drive” to work as often.
Well, even with those 30 million EV’s and millions of workers not driving as much, gasoline usage continues to rise. The International Energy Agency (IEA) reports that global gasoline consumption in 2023 blew past the pre-lockdown 2019 peak !
By re-enforcing the mandates to EV’s, Biden is forcing automobile manufacturers into a death spiral, as most of the 8 billion on this planet will never be able to afford an EV !
Ambassador for Energy & Infrastructure, Co-author of the Pulitzer Prize nominated book “Clean Energy Exploitations”, policy advisor on energy literacy for The Heartland Institute, and The Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow, and National TV Commentator- Energy & Infrastructure with Rick Amato.
Ronald Stein, P.E. is an engineer, energy consultant, speaker, author of books and articles on energy literacy, environmental policy, and human rights, and Founder of PTS Advance, a California based company.
Ron advocates that energy literacy starts with the knowledge that renewable energy is only intermittent electricity generated from unreliable breezes and sunshine, as wind turbines and solar panels cannot manufacture anything for the 8 billion on this planet.
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It’s all the fault of the Gummint-
Classic-to-EV conversion company’s truck business goes BUST | MGUY Australia (youtube.com)
Et tu UK Govt.
“An electric vehicle (EV) start-up backed by celebrities including David Beckham and Jack Whitehall has put its commercial arm into administration, blaming the Government’s decision to delay a ban on petrol car sales.
Lunaz Group, which retrofits combustion engine vehicles with electric powertrains, on Monday confirmed it was shutting down Lunaz Applied Technologies as part of a wider overhaul.”
Any business plan that relies on government banning your competition, is a bad business plan.
“Biden may be oblivious…” I think that’s a dead cert. Does the puppeteers hand ever ache a bit?
“Mandating a change to EV ownership and further austerity onto those that can least afford [it]”
Ferrari is, to my knowledge, the only high end car maker who has said no to EVs. I recall their company man was rather modest about it:
“Ferrari CEO Benedetto Vigna recently told the BBC that the company would be “arrogant” to dictate what customers can buy…”
https://electrek.co/2023/05/15/ferrari-resists-evs-as-part-of-companys-heritage/
And the reaction to that attitude – what the customer actually wants – was summed up in the article’s headline: “Ferrari foolishly resists EVs, calls ICE ‘an essential part of the company’s heritage’”
Just the other day, the head honcho at Renault spoke a little more truth to power. What should be a healthy automotive industry and market has become anything but:
“The boss of global vehicle producer Renault has called on manufacturers to promote small affordable petrol and diesel cars rather than expensive and heavier electric vehicles which he described as “environmental nonsense”.
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In his “letter to Europe”, the Renault chief warned that the car industry could be in real danger without immediate support and intervention.
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In the letter, the Renault boss said: “Driving around every day in an electric vehicle weighing 2.5 tonnes is clearly an environmental nonsense.”
https://www.gbnews.com/lifestyle/cars/renault-larger-electric-vehicles-smaller-petrol-cars
I, myself, would also add in the fact that EVs are far more destructive to the carriageway surface….
“A recent report by Telegraph UK has shone a light on the potential role of electric vehicles in exacerbating the UK’s pothole problem. With weights averaging around 312kg more than their petrol and diesel counterparts, primarily due to their heavy batteries, EVs are believed to place 2.24 times more stress on the roads.
The result? Asphalt sees greater movement, leading to small cracks that ultimately form into the notorious potholes plaguing the nation’s drivers. The £12 Billion Pothole Pandemic…
https://techround.co.uk/news/electric-vehicles-impact-uk-roads/
The estimate is now up to £16billion in under a year.
I suppose you most notice how lunatic the push for EVs really is when you live in more confined spaces. But then in a larger country you are going to have quite a bit of range anxiety.
Unfortunately, Ferrari is now working on an EV. https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/19/ferrari-boss-promises-emotion-wont-be-lost-in-ev-engine-roar.html
Akio Toyoda, Toyota’s Chairman has also been very luke warm on a tranitstion to BEVS.
Don’t innovate, keep buying oversized emotional support SUVs and then wonder why a second Detroit happens. Because the rest of the world moved on and American cars can’t compete with companies like BYD.
And never ever talk about walkable cities or public transport, that might actually help the poor.
I filled up my car yesterday. It took ~7 minutes – including the time taken to pay at the desk.
Prices are still coming down. Only the rich kidz go for Sport Shoe shaped EVs that are on a par with a tank.
Electric golf carts have been around for years. Their usefulness for driving to work or going on vacation are very limited. We understand full well that EV’s are just enclosed golf carts made for hiway speeds with a cellphone app in control of doorlocks and battery charge meter. Possibly useful for showing off wealth around the +55 retirement village. Not really good for driving to see the grandkids.
I noticed a brand new Esso (Canada) station nearby and interestingly there was no charging stations for electric cars. All were gas and or diesel pumps. Hmmmm
The poor at least in Australia largely LIVE in outer suburbs, often far from their jobs and with appalling public transport. In Canberra (capital of Australia) where I live, our toytown Parliament is building a tramline that has costing $100 million per kilometer for the 12 kilometers so far. The next stage is going to cost around 2/3 of that $12 billion for the next 1.7 kilometers. To pay for it, public transport has been cut and it takes me twice as long to get to work every day than it used to 30 years ago. I’m taking my car and it isn’t an EV. All the public servants here better wake up soon because they will be none of us paying taxes so the elites can get their hand outs for destroying our lives and even laid back Aussies are getting VERY angry.
If you think Aussies are getting angry….
In Canada, a recent “secret” RCMP report expresses concerns that there will be widespread unrest as the population comes to realize the loss of standard of living they are possibly facing…..net zero climate goals, carbon taxes, deficit spending, nanny state spending promises, trade agreements destroying entire industries, opening the immigration doors while maintaining a welfare state, 30% increase in gov’t employees, may not be listed in the report, but are the “virtuous” policies behind Canada dropping 6 places in per capita income relative to the US during the regime of Emperor Justin Trudeau.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/secret-rcmp-report-warns-canadians-may-revolt-once-they-realize-how-broke-they-are
Actually, having read it, I find it embarrassing that someone at the RCMP authored such drivel, which sounds like fundraising hype from a high school outdoors club newsletter.
So rather than have the availability of affordable cars that may help lift “the poor” out of poverty, you propose locking them into your envisioned walkable slums. Nice.
The beauty of freedom is that you, MyUsername, can buy what you want, help the poor or do any of the things you feel important. The beauty of freedom is that the rest of us retain that same right, even when YOU think we are wrong.
I think the current batch of ICEVs are quite different from the ones available in the 1960s. If you go back to the late 1800s they were more primitive. So I think you missed out on the fact that there has been quite a bit of innovation in the ICEV. The 1971 7.0l Dodge Hemi engine was rated at 350hp compared to today’s 6.2l Hemi Redeye engine rated at 807hp.
You talk about “walkable cities” and public transport so I assume you’ve never been to the US. If you had, you would have noticed that there are not droves of Chinese vehicles filling the roads. It would be a challenge to find a single Chinese model in the entire country. As a matter of fact, you would have noticed that there are not a lot of small Japanese and European models either. Americans buy more SUVs than cars. Importing small, cheap cars will not be a good strategy, especially since they require significant redesign to meet US safety standards. The first generation Smart Car did not meet US standards. The second generation was so heavy for the size that it only sold 36,192 units in the 7 years it was available in the US.
One of two things is going to happen.
Governments may take their populations to EVs. To do that they will have to abandon wind and solar as the primary generation technology, and go back to gas. As they are in the UK and US.
Or they may take almost all generation to wind and solar, in which case there will be no power to charge either the EVs or the heat pumps.
You can see this dilemma in the UK Labour Party. They really think that 100GW of wind is going to be enough to deliver 100GW of demand, up from about 45GW peak now. Of course it isn’t. So you got two choices, build gas that will deliver 100GW. Or, don’t take demand up there, which means stop trying to make everyone move to EVs and heat pumps.
It is not going to work. It gets clearer every month.
The average daily demand in the UK, is 39GW. The installed wind capacity is 38GW, so everything should be fine.
Politicians and others do not seem to understand that GW is the unit of energy, it is GWh that is the unit of consumption. There are 10 000 wind mills installed in the UK, at best on occasions they can deliver about 50% of demand for short periods.
As I write, UK demand is 31.7GW and wind is supplying 12.08GW with gas and nuke and some imported supplying the rest. Of course gas and nuke could meet demand but have to step aside to let wind participate, but gas has to continue in spinning reserve for when wind falters.
In effect the UK has two parallel generating capabilities, one which can supply all the time, the other at best 30% of the time. In the future, every GW of wind or solar added to ‘capacity’ will require a GW of gas added as back-up. This is why electricity costs in UK have rocketed, to pay for a dual system to cope with intermittency.
And there is no saving in C02 emissions as the gas power stations have to burn gas (inefficiently) whether feeding the grid or not, to be ready to take over.
Correction: GW is the unit of power (energy/time) and GWH is the unit of energy.
No, 30GW, not 38 of wind installed. And peak demand sometimes hits over 45GW. Last year, for instance:
minimum: 1.399 GW
maximum: 46.826 GW
average: 29.303 GW
http://www.gridwatch.co.uk
For those nuclear plants that can load follow, they can’t completely shut down either.
Even if wind were to take over 100% of production, there would still be a lot of atoms being split in order to keep boilers and turbines warm.
Since when does such a thing exist? As far as I know, ALL nuclear is best purposed as base-load, so it can chug along at a steady rate.
We generally prefer stationary crematoriums in the U.S.
Walkable cities and public transit sound like great ideas, but in so many places (especially in the US big cities) the reality is very different. Baltimore, for instance, has a subway, a rail car system and busses. It isn’t hard to get from one place to another that way. However, anyone on foot (which you will have to be once you leave the bus or subway/rail stop) is a sitting duck for getting jumped, mugged, beaten, or worse by having a bullet come flying your way. Even if it was just a stray bullet intended for someone else. Car theft and car jackings are also rampant, but you do have a bit better of a chance at staying safe in a vehicle. One intended car jacking victim was able to start the car and punch the gas, causing his attackers to scram.
Personally I’d rather be in a vehicle in Baltimore than wandering around on foot. And the poor are mostly on foot…
Luser is a WEF apostle… wants everyone to OWN NOTHING (except what he says you are allowed to own).. and be very unhappy.
Crammed into inner-city ghettos with him and all his fellow marxist/totalitarian scum as overlords.
He wants you in the open, and walking on the streets or on packed miserable and unhealthy public transport, where you are easy prey for his thuggie mates.
Public transport – this requires individuals to live according to the schedules of others, regulated by timetables and availability of space.
Not sure what a ‘walkable’ city is, but people need to work not just walk. Cities are not the best places for industries which require large land areas and open spaces. I can’t think of any car plant or fertiliser factory for example, built in skyscrapers.
Totally! Looking forward to when the “poor” are off the streets, my commute will be 1/3rd the time, and my insurance rates will drop. (Few, if any un/under-insured on the streets)
Central planning doesn’t work.
Even if central planning worked, people don’t want what you’re selling. You want to control how people live, where they live, how they move about (by limiting ownership and access to vehicles). You want to destroy single family housing and reorder the world to match your view of fairness.
The funny thing is, you think this is progress.
100% car dependence: freedom
Being able to choose between different modes if transportation: Slavery
Yes, that’s exactly what I wrote. Also ‘war is peace, freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.’ I’m sure that last one is a favorite of yours.
/sarc
Strawman, much?
I only made predictions about the state of the car industry in a few years. And we can see how the industry already starts sweating in Europe.
I added that public transport and better urban planning is beneficial, especially for certain groups in the population – that the article also used as argument.
You come screaming about central planing and controling peoples lives and destroying single family homes.
What kind of argument were you making? Was it even an answer to mine? How do you think infrastructure planning works today?
Your vision has no bearing on this world.
The only car companies that are “suffering” are those that bet big on EVs.
Yes, provide infrastructure..
But stop trying to FORCE people to use it as directed by your anti-human idiotology.. !
Everything you say has a putrid controlling totalitarian overtone to it.
The very opposite of FREEDOM.
But from a low-life marxist scumbag… that is to be expected.
“…overtone…” hell, more like subtle like a brick.
You didn’t make predictions, you criticized people for not taking your position. Next, you imply that opposing your ideas means no public transport.
What point are you making, except you don’t take feedback well?
…is an oxymoron. You know, one of those like military intelligence; jumbo shrimp; soft rock; benevolent dictatorship (oh wait, that’s what you already said);… [fill in your own]
Muggers, thieves, shoplifters, murderers, gang members, rapists, etc. Quite a long list of benefactors indeed.
The cities already exist. No amount of urban planning is going to change that. Or are you suggesting that we build new, walkable (15-minute) cities, and tear down the existing cities?
Unfortunately “today” infrastructure planning is
TOP DOWN. Mayor Pete thinks he knows better than thousands of municipalities what is good for them. The result is a chaotic transportation MESS.
The ideal planning for most infrastructure is BOTTOMS UP.
“Being able to choose between different modes if transportation: Slavery”
But you would eliminate the ability to choose ICE vehicles.
PS Who here has said you can’t walk, ride a bike, take a bus, drive an EV, etc?
No one. You are the one defending those who eliminate a choice.
“Being able to choose between different modes if transportation: Slavery”
So by denying people access to usable personal transport….
you are, like any slimy little marxist scum, advocating slavery. !
You are welcome to enslave yourself…. but others do not want to be as dependent as you are on needing government to control every facet of your pathetic existence.
Wow, allowing people to choose what they want is slavery.
Having government dictate what choices you must make is slavery.
Is there anything these socialists know that comes even close to reality?
People are able to choose whatever form of transportation they want now. The problem with you is that too many of them aren’t choosing the solution that you agree with.
Do I tell you what you can and can’t drive?
Do I tell you where you can live and can’t live?
Do I tell you what you can eat and can’t eat?
Please return the courtesy and stop telling me how to live my life.
I’ve found a way to be friends for ever, there’s really nothing to it, I’ll tell you what to do and you do it! Shel Silverstein
“walkable cities”…
Not everyone wants to live in a slum-like inner-city ghetto ….
… especially if populated by Lusers like you. !
These don’t “help” the poor.. they “control” the poor..
… keeps them penned in and like a Luser…, dismal and without hope.
Fascinating how the socialist actually believes that government mandates are equivalent to consumer demand.
Face it, EVs are failing everywhere.
A “walkable city” is actually a vertical societal dystopia ala Judge Dredd. Having all your needs located within a 15 minute walk literally means everything is less than a mile away. Can you fit EVERYTHING a modern society needs within a 2 mile circumference, including the population necessary to support those businesses in the variety necessary?
Some muppets never gave up on the 1970’s arcology idea, despite all the ways in which it is a very bad idea. Too many rats in a barrel.
What I hear you saying is, it’s best if we keep the poor poor.
Well, this new Biden rule on automobiles probably guarantees that Trump will win the State of Michigan in the next election.
The auto workers are not fools. They know rules like this are going to eliminate their jobs.
And Trump is going to continue to remind them of this from now until November 2024.
Remember Tom, it’s not who votes, it’s who counts the votes.
The democrats have learned this (1984 as an instruction manual) but Republicans are slow on the uptake.
Maybe with Trump’s bloodbath at the RNC, the party will be prepared for election lawfare this time around.
Yes, we found that out the hard way, didn’t we.
The Republicans claim they are taking steps to prevent a repeat of 2020 election debacle. We’ll find out soon enough if they were successful.
Thanks to CA rules on buying EV’s, Jeep laid off about 2000 workers in Detroit. Nobody gave a hoot.
Ronald Stein gives a few reasons for dismal EV sales: average debt and workhorse vehicle to mention two. How about I just plain don’t want one? I don’t think they are practical? And I’m a bit of a contrarian in that I don’t like the government telling me what I can or cannot buy. What government policies brought about the ICE vehicles?
On top of that, living in central Florida if I had to evacuate d/t a hurricane I doubt I could reach the Georgia state line on a fully charged EV before I’d be sitting stranded or waiting in long lines for a charger with the rest of us mandated EV owners and what are the chances the energy infrastructure would support our needs on that day. It is none of the government’s d*&m business what people drive. We’ve ceded too much authority to the government and unelected bureaucrats. There are three branches of government, not four. It is time to get rid of these bureaucracies and make the legislatures pass the laws they are supposed to pass instead of ceding their responsibilities to three and four letter agencies.
Augmenting your points…
A couple of years ago there was a major winter storm in Virginia. I-95 was closed for over 26 hours with hundreds/thousands of stranded motorists.
With internal combustion, a) you can start the engine when cold, b) you can run it until the engine block warms then turn off the engine and still keep warm, c) the lead-acid battery delivers in the cold, d) gasoline can be delivered to motorists but electricity can’t in this kind of situation, e) gasoline does not require a heater to keep from destroying the LiPo battery, f) gasoline does not spontaneously ignite with burn temperatures in the 1000 C range.
I could go on.
The point is, if all those cars were EVs, there would have been massive casualties.
I will never own an EV. Period.
But,but, if one caught fire then everybody could have kept warm and roasted marshmallows, what fun!
You mean while the fires spread from car to car through the 20-mile plus backup?
More like crispy critters.
I’d have an EV if they could be fully charged in 5 minutes without damaging the batteries and weren’t 4 wheeled spontaneously combustible incendiary devices.
Fully charged in 5 minutes, regardless of what the temperature outside is.
Two things… 1)…at least 350 miles range before required refueling, at nearly any temperature (I’ll give some loss for uphill driving or pulling trailers), 2) from empty to completely full in <5 minutes.
…but since the government is trying to make me switch to an EV, I’ll never have one even if someone gave it to me. I’ll keep repairing/rebuilding my ICE vehicle until the day I die. Oh, joy, we can all look like Cuba! Maybe it just means I have become a grumpy old man. So be it.
There is absolutely nothing wrong or unusual about being a grumpy old man.
Particularly when you see the utter ignorance and crap coming from younger generations.
Where I live, 16% to 19% electricity is produced by coal. Why would I want to buy a coal-burning car?
Simply because it is that much more inconvenient and impractical.
You’ve gone one level down in your thinking about the issues. Joe Biden wants you, as an “informed voter”, to stay at Level 1.
Bring back The Stanly Steamer!
I wonder if they could make tankless steam power? Sort of like tankless water heaters.
Wow!!! That would be an outrageous demand!!! You would need an 8″ diameter exhaust, at least!
Some of the first steam driven horseless carriages were coal burners.
Let’s reset the clock back to the golden age of steam power!
Overcast, drizzling and windless here today. Very little from wind turdines or solar.
COAL and GAS will be doing all the heavy lifting .. as usual.
Qld.. 81% Coal,
NSW.. 79% Coal
Vic.. 71% coal and gas, plus 26% hydro
SA .. 72% GAS and a large transfer from the Victorian Coal
COAL IS KING !!! GAS is Queen !
Good thing winter hasn’t got here yet.. so demand is quite low…
… I hope the Coal-fired power stations have enough left to get us through. !
MyUsername: “Don’t innovate, keep buying oversized emotional support SUVs and then wonder why a second Detroit happens. Because the rest of the world moved on and American cars can’t compete with companies like BYD. And never ever talk about walkable cities or public transport, that might actually help the poor.”
The Chinese are building three large EV automobile manufacturing plants in Mexico with financial assistance from Blackrock. Several former Blackrock executives are now employed in Joe Biden’s administration either as principal trade advisors.or else in energy policy making positions. The influence peddling in the service of Chinese and Blackrock’s interests is plainly apparent here.
[Bad Day at] Black Rock
h/t Spencer Tracy
The Blackrock influence on this situation was featured here yesterday.=====>
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/03/20/china-and-blackrock-biden-epa-rolls-out-usa-auto-mandates-forcing-evs-to-make-up-two-thirds-of-passenger-vehicles-who-benefits/
“First, who was installed in the Biden White House in charge of all personnel and staffing? Catherine Russell. {SEE HERE} Who is Catherine Russell? She’s the wife of Tom Donilon, a long-time aid and advisor to Joe Biden who served in the Obama White House.”
“After serving as Obama’s National Security Advisor (prior to Susan Rice), Tom Donilon then went on to become “Chairman of the BlackRock Investment Institute {SEE HERE}.” His job was literally to “leverage the firm’s expertise and generate proprietary research to provide insights on the global economy, markets, geopolitics and long-term asset allocation.”
In essence, the Donilon family represented the interests of Blackrock in the White House.
Second, Tom Donilon’s brother, Mike Donilon is a Senior Advisor to Joe Biden {link} providing guidance on what policies should be implemented within the administration. Mike Donilon guides the focus of spending, budgets, regulation and white house policy from his position of Senior Advisor to the President.
In June of 2022, Blackrock’s Tom Donilon was then appointed to be co-chair of U.S. Department of State’s Foreign Affairs Policy Board {SEE HERE}, in charge of U.S-China policy. Can you see where this is going?”
Are the Donlin brothers examples of the “leftist” cabal that’s the impetus for hydrocarbon climate anxiety? Is Blackrock an agent of the world-wide leftist conspiracy or just another, bigger example of money chasing ever more money?
Not sure but they do sit on the board of the WEF…furthermore from the same
article.
“Blackrock is in control of policy. Now look at where Blackrock investment has been pre-deployed, and that’s where you see Biden policy coming into play. Blackrock and JPMorgan set up the Ukraine reconstruction bank {SEE HERE}. That’s the core of the Ukraine issue. It’s not ideological, it’s financial. Follow the money.”
the article goes even deeper, very chilling at least to me
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2022– NEW YORK, March 24 (Reuters) – BlackRock Inc’s (BLK.N) chief executive, Larry Fink, said on Thursday that the Russia-Ukraine war could end up accelerating digital currencies as a tool to settle international transactions, as the conflict upends the globalization drive of the last three decades.
In a letter to the shareholders of the world’s largest asset manager, Fink said the war will push countries to reassess currency dependencies, and that BlackRock was studying digital currencies and stablecoins due to increased client interest.
“A global digital payment system, thoughtfully designed, can enhance the settlement of international transactions while reducing the risk of money laundering and corruption”, he said.”
it’s an article worth reading..
How about the digits being the fingers of people handing hard currency, gold and silver, to one another as was the case for thousands of years? Larry Fink’s phony money will be used to acquire genuine, real assets, land, cattle and resources. Once those assets have been acquired the money can and will evaporate but the assets will still be there for the financial rebirth, also under the control of the Larry Finks of the world.
We may finally be touching on the answer to the question, “Who is pulling the strings of the Tzo Bai Din puppet?”
LoserName sill believes that the only reason why everyone doesn’t own an EV, is because the oil companies are paying them not to.
Story tip – Dearborn Public Schools to get electric bus, $300,000 rebate from feds – Press and Guide
Electric school busses are all well and good until one day one suddenly turns into a blowtorch and children are fried alive….that’s all it will take to kill that idiotic notion.
Yep and it only takes an extremely rare but catastrophic event to kill and maim children to create a totally irrational and uneconomic call for seat belts in school busses-
Why don’t we have seatbelts in school buses? – ABC News
Emotional response overrules any cost benefit consideration in terms of the cost of a statistical life saved applying those resources in that way when it’s proven multiple child lives could be saved using them elsewhere. May God have mercy on the EV bussmaker that’s first to incinerate a bus full of schoolchildren.
PS: The bussmaker and all who sailed with the decision to go electric will wish they were this bloke instead-
Hunter Valley wedding bus driver Brett Andrew Button formally charged with new offences – ABC News
I saw pictures of multiple burning busses. Not pretty. Fortunately they were empty when they ignited. 1000 C will not leave much to bury.
The EPA standards for emissions to be mandated in 2027 effectively eliminate the ICE by reducing all regulated emissions by 90% from their current low level, all in the name of reducing deaths due to smog which don’t exist. Current ICE’s, all cars and trucks including diesels, are as clean as ambient air in most cities and cleaner than ambient when smog is high. Thus, during smoggy days, they clean the air. PM standards are so low that at UC Riverside, the site for most CARB emissions testing verification, the ambient air has to be ultra-filtered to reduce in-coming PM to the point where it is below the exhaust limit so that meaningful PM measurements can be made.
Thus, the EPA new emissions standards, besides being so low that no ICE can meet them, will not change air pollution in cities. Keep in mind that hydrocarbons in the air are naturally occurring coming from plant life. Even back in 1970, SoCal HC levels were 50% from ambient sources (terpenes and the like) which are highly photochemically active olefinic compounds that do for natural smog which LA was famous for well before ICE’s came on the scene there.
Well, my line of thinking is that, they really don’t want you to convert to EVs. They really want you not to drive at all. Take mass transit. Reduce your lifestyle. Have nothing and be happy. Am I wrong?
One step further. They would like the world population to be about 50% less.
Closer to 95% less.
100 million tops.
You got it. ‘They’ want us dependent upon government largess. We should be happy we get to take the bus instead of being able to travel where we want when we want.
These are the same guys who consider a tax cut to be a subsidy.
With no electricity, internet, or cell phone service, we would never be able to find out if you are wrong. Right?
And if those 1.4 billion vehicles were to run on electricity, whence commeth that electricity and how will it get where it is required?
The tedious details of generation capacity and grid infrastructure.
in mitigation (!) the fantasists have the notion that windmills and sunbeam collectors are to be scattered across the globe – because the wind is always blowing and Sun shining somewhere – to solve the intermittency problem, and connect them up with millions of miles of transmission lines, overhead, underground, undersea, etc, but absolutely no notion of distribution within Countries to the consumer.
Including mortgages in such a calculation (correct or not) is an oddity. Being a renter is not a lot different in what debts a person has. Those with mortgages pay a bank or similar, those that rent pay a a building owner who pays a bank. Consider an auto loan versus leasing an apartment. You pay as required or your life changes quickly and drastically.
I don’t know how one should think of this as “average debt”, but to leave it out of the equation misses much that should be considered debt.
This “bulleted” item could be dropped as it adds nothing to the idea of running out of elites.
agreed
The result of not paying your mortgage and not paying your rent, aren’t all that different.
In both cases you and your stuff are kicked to the curb.
All of the reasons give for the lack of EV uptake are spot on. But the powers that be that are pushing this seem to be missing one huge elephant in the room. That is the “car culture” that is deeply embedded in the western world. Many people don’t mind swapping out a gas powered lawn mower with an electric one (if they haven’t much lawn to mow). Likely they (and their next door neighbors who sleep in on the weekend) don’t miss the roar of the motor and the fumes. Or worse, the incessant braying of a leaf blower on a quiet morning…
But those very aspects which people hate about lawn equipment are the very things people love and cherish about cars. The roar of a engine when you step on the gas, the feel of said engine even when it’s idling, the shifting of gears (for those who still have manuals), basically the entire mechanical sense of ICE vehicles.
This is what separates a purely utilitarian tool or device (a leaf blower, a washing machine) from that which is far more than just its basic purpose.
And no, silly high end EVs that make recorded ICE car sounds just aren’t going to cut it! That would be like having an electric motorcycle that makes Harley sounds… Or having a robot dog that barks and whines and sits on command, but still, it will never be a real dog that you can hug and cuddle that will love you. Or miss you when you are away from it.
An EV is a fake car, even though it will do many normal car things. Put simply, it lacks the soul of the ICE vehicle. The only people to whom EVs (especially Tesla) appeal to are those who are heavy into the computer technology. Those cars are like laptops or cell phones on wheels, with all sorts of apps and bells and whistles and “techy” features. Of course the nerds who worship Tesla also must have a good living to afford their toys. The same sort of people who would camp out to buy the newest IPhone are those who can’t wait to get behind the wheel of a Tesla.
I, like most people out there, have no interest in the “techy” side. I like the feel of the ICE engine, its roar (well, OK, in my 4-banger it’s more of a whir) when I stomp the gas. And all of those other things (like quick fill ups) I also prefer and expect,
These are huge reasons why uptake is so poor…
Well done! You’ve highlighted the main obstacle to all progress. People tend to get attached to what they are used to, and often refuse to change.
For example, if a person has been brought up as a Muslim, experiencing all the chanting, prayers and rituals, he is unlikely to ever change his religious views.
Likewise, if a person has experienced and enjoyed the powerful roar of a ICE vehicle, which boosts his ego, he will unlikely want to change to a modern, quiet, non-polluting, high-tech BEV.
Personally, I dislike driving in congested cities where there is the constant noise and pollution of ICE vehicles, and often great difficulty in finding a parking space. I’d much prefer cities which were free of all ICE vehicles.
My ideal city would be one where at least half the area consists of parks with trees and open grass areas, lots of walkways lined with trees or nice foliage, large areas of free parking on the outskirts of the city, and electric bus routes covering the entire inner city.
The current EV ownership profiles are reflected in the oligarchic elite that are highly educated, highly compensated, multi-car families, with low mileage requirements for the families second car.
Highly educated is it? Probably mostly in accounting, finance and fiduciary manipulation. And coming out of exclusive academic institutions that seldom give a grade less than an “A” before awarding a ticket to a highly-compensated position in the social stratosphere. That ticket is, of course, the only evidence of their education.
The earth’s continued existence through millions of years of incredible changes is unrecognized by an educated oligarchic elite seizing the opportunity to become even richer by controlling the world’s energy supply and use in the name of an unproven theory. Its effect on the unwashed masses is of no concern.
Most people poo – pooed Agenda 21 as fantasy/fiction by the UN and didn’t take it seriously. So the UN took it back underground and are going about implementing it anyway. The object is no personal transportation because it isn’t needed in the 15 minute cities they’ll build. Travel outside your bubble will be no longer needed. Forcing people into public transportation is the goal, not converting to EVs.
I remember being told that Agenda 21 was a conspiracy theory even after linking to the UN web page that outlined it
It’s gotten to where having someone call it a “conspiracy theory” simply confirms what I said is indeed true.
Among the most obvious failings of would-be-king Joe Biden (and his administration) is his obvious disregard of the US Constitution as he merrily goes about issuing his Executive Orders.
To wit:
The Commerce Clause (Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3) of the U.S. Constitution gives Congress, NOT the US President (i.e., the Executive Branch) the power “to regulate commerce with foreign nations, among states, and with the Indian tribes.”
Forcing all interstate transportation vehicles to switch from using fossil-fuel ICE vehicles to using EVs is most certainly a regulation of interstate commerce because it greatly impacts the forms of interstate transportation that are allowed as well as forcing existing businesses to adopt new technology while the vehicles they currently own are obviously currently sufficient for their needs.
Also, based on the best objective science that is available, there certainly is no “clear and compelling” need for such action . . . if for nothing more than the argument, presented in the above article, that US vehicles consuming fossil fuels are basically an insignificant contributor to humanity’s total release of fossil fuel emissions across the planet.
I have done a word search on the entire US Constitution and don’t find anywhere therein the words “virtue signaling”. 😉
Sounds like a “bloodbath” for the industry and consumers to me.
If you aren’t careful Biden will accuse you of advocating violence.
He will fight like hell to get you convicted.
As Obama said, make sure you don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.
At this point, I just assume that it is inevitable. Anyone on this site is already flagged.
Death spiral or bloodbath?
The death spiral will lead to the bloodbath and hundreds of thousands of workers find themselves out of work and only allowed a 15 minute walk to nowhere.
But they will be able to take the bus. That was built in China.
At the end of the day the automakers have two choices, both bad. They can build more EV’s that no one wants and continue to lose their ass on each one OR they can build ICE vehicles that people do want and provide healthy margins and pay the fines to the Federal government for not making enough EV’s. Either way they eventually go bankrupt at which point the government bails them out and essentially nationalizes the auto industry.
Kinda makes one wonder if that was the strategy all along
The strategy, if you pay attention to what UN, WMO, WEF, WHO, the whole alphabet crowd are crowing is the demolition of capitalism and the eliminate of the fair skinned denizens of the planet.
And unions. I guess they are simultaneously working on bailouts and reparations for the UAW members.
In the end the auto workers become government employees just like doctors and nurses in countries that have socialized medicine.
I’ll sell tickets to ride in my V8 Toyota when others are driving overpriced rides with turbocharged 2-cylinder engines with hybrid systems also crammed in.
Ditto my 6.4 liter V-8 gasoline powered F-250.
Oh wait, maybe it’s 6.2 L, isn’t the diesel 6.4 L?
Story tip:
In case you missed it, a very wealthy and connected woman died when she backed her Tesla into a pond and could not escape from her car. I wonder why not? She had time to call some loved ones to tell them she was dying, though. Do the doors on the Tesla not work when it is sinking into a pond?
I ask because the article mentioned the brand of the car five times in the article, including once in the subheadline of the article. It was like they had this thing against Tesla.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/20/us/angela-chao-car-crash.html?searchResultPosition=1
Curiouser and curiouser.
Hmmmm . . . given the associated news story about a person’s death in a Tesla car, I can’t possibly imagine why?
/sarc off
If the windows are up she’d have to wait for the car to fill before manually opening the door-
How To Open A Tesla’s Doors In An Emergency (youtube.com)
Leave the phone call to last and unbuckle the seat belt at the same time opening the window/s while they could still power operate but maybe she couldn’t swim and had no idea of the depth.
DON’T DROWN IN YOUR CAR!.. Life-Saving Window Breaker Demo – YouTube
PS: She was doomed-
How to Get Out of a Sinking Car!.. HOW TO ESCAPE and SURVIVE (youtube.com)
That is a great video. Looks like calling your loved ones is not a bad idea.
It’s more than the elite. Think back to the article about Hertz. I don’t know but I bet fleet sales were a big part of the EV sales. There are two different fleet buyers. One is like Hertz where the paying customer decides whether or not to use EVs. The other would be like government where you are forced to use an EV even if you don’t want to. Outfits like the government can pretend that EVs are a success or just not use them as intended and then not replace them and pretend everything went good. Outfits like Hertz on the other hand can’t hide their failures and must pay a price for ignorant decisions.
So what’s your point again, Ronald? If “most of the 8 billion” will never own an automobile, they will (rather obviously) never be able to afford an EV, so using this in support of your argument that EV mandates will lead to automobile manufacturer’s death spiral fails any kind of logic test (the rest of the post is OK though).
Like most folks equipped with a functioning brain, I agree with you, but FFS take a short break and then read what you’ve written and try to have it make sense before you post it, please! As an engineer, you will have been trained to write with factual and logical precision.
BTW it’s becoming obvious to those of us who read the news, that the whole EV mandate thing is probably going to collapse under the weight of its own unenforceability. Because our western liberal “democracies” aren’t yet at the point of actually forcing their citizens to spend their money on stuff they neither want, nor see as being in their own best interests. This may change of course, the way things have been going lately (unilaterally seizing bank accounts of truckers in NY and Canada for example)
Medical insurance mandate, anyone?
It’s partially up to consumers to resist buying overpriced and unreliable products just to supposedly help reach reduced emissions targets that the same consumers aren’t concerned about to begin with. It’s also up to government officials to listen to their electorates and quit agreeing to to dish out subsidies for products for which there are limited demands. Reaching climate goals has been shown to be a low priority among citizens, so it’s up to governments to acknowledge this and quite telling people that only it knows what’s best for us while in actuality these products just wind up costing us more money and causing more inconvenience.