Fox Business – Varney & Co – Broadcast September 14, 2023
‘DISASTROUS’: Expert warns of Biden ‘demolition’ of auto industry – Fox Business – Climatedepot.com publisher Marc Morano discusses the impact of Biden’s electric vehicle push on the auto industry and the pending UAW strikes. #foxbusiness
Fox Business – Varney & Co – Broadcast September 14, 2023
Stuart Varney: Marc Morano is the publisher of ClimateDepot.com and he joins me now. A big part of this strike is about the switch to electric vehicles and how to compensate the people building them. In your opinion, how is the switch, the forced switch to electric going?
Marc Morano: It’s going disastrously, first of all on this UAW pending strike. You have a million workers making non-electric cars with these electric car mandates. You’re talking about 40% or 400,000 workers being displaced. There are also about seven and a half million jobs related to the auto industry that are going to be impacted.
Joe Biden’s EV mandates are a controlled demolition of the US auto industry. There’s no other way to put it. Because China is the main beneficiary, and we’re seeing a potential Chinese invasion of electric cars. The transition is going horribly, but I think that’s not the actual purpose of this Biden plan. The plan is to create vehicle rationing to force less people to drive and force us into mass transit, and restrict our freedom of movement. That’s that’s coming out of these EV climate plans.
Stuart Varney: But Marc, that is politically out of the question. Any administration which imposes rationing on cars are limiting your ability to drive in these United States? That’s political suicide.
Marc Morano: It is but that’s why it’s in 2035. That’s why it’s several years away. But here’s the key: Has Congress voted on a car ban? No. Has even the California legislature voted? No. This is all being done bypassing democracy — in many ways the same way that COVID restrictions, we didn’t vote for church closures, or school closures. Well, we didn’t vote now for food restrictions. We didn’t vote for the gas-powered car ban.
This is a corporate government collusion, mostly coming from ideology coming from the United Nations, World Economic Forum. And they are forcing this upon us now. It’s not affecting us immediately. But it’s down the road, and the question is, are we going to allow it?
It looks like this whole EV mandate thing is going to collapse when people realize that it is going to create car rationing. I mean, this is similar to East Germany they had one government-authorized car: the crappy East German Trabant. Fast forward here in the United States. The government is saying you can only buy one car in the future, an EV — likely manufactured solely from China. This is our future if we allow it, Stuart, and it’s going terrible.
Stuart Varney: All right, Marc, I think we know where you’re coming from, Marc Morano. Thank you very much for being here, Marc. Good stuff. Thank you.
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Story tip
Covering Climate Now, the global journalism collaboration, is announcing its media awards this week
Guardian reporter among winners of climate journalism awards
Covering Climate Now cites Damian Carrington for investigating ‘carbon bombs’ and super-emitting methane leaks
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/sep/17/guardian-reporter-among-winners-of-climate-journalism-awards
Argh. Climate incest…
You will all catch public transport and be happy!
SA public transport network struggling to bounce back post pandemic | Watch (msn.com)
Greenpeace has said for years that one of their goals is to reduce private car ownership. Given the state of public transport, this is likely to make lives extremely difficult for ordinary people. But Greenpeace has always detested the public; they regard them as an obstacle to their desired green world.
https://fleetpoint.org/carandvannews/car/privately-owned-cars-should-be-banned-from-london-by-2030/
https://www.greenpeace.org/international/story/13968/we-dont-just-need-electric-cars-we-need-fewer-cars/
Lambeth is working on it. A maze of LTNs….
They’ll all be doin’ the Lambeth Walk, Oi!
This is my favourite version:
People still are not paying attention to their ultimate aim and when they do they are going to be pissed off. The touts are still pshawing on CNBC but it won’t surprise if the Saudis put a shiv in FJB’s gizzard this fall and cut enough to push gas prices toward 7 bucks/gallon. That will get middle America’s attention….
“this is likely to make lives extremely difficult for ordinary people”
The socio/economic classes will become more rigid. Low income people will find it much more difficult to rise. They’ll settle down to a new kind of serfdom.
Seems this report missed a few points:
1. The busses don’t run on time.
2. The electrification of the rail line cause issues as this kept running beyond deliver date. This caused disruptions to travel.
3. Some rail connections were scrapped and never replaced so people had to drive.
4. The trams are a mess and at one point, because the government, ALP, decided not to have sand boxes for the trams slippage due to leaves caused start problems
5. Trams on the port road were a mess when conductive issues we found and that caused problems
6. Secondary electrolysis issues were causing electrical issues with the trams and that took a while to fix.
In the old days, pre privatisation/contracts to private companies, the MTT ran an effective service. There were conductors on each buss and the inspectors would drop in checking peoples tickets and passes. Not anymore. All went down hill after this “privatisation” crap.
and there is AI which all by itself is set to increase electricity demands by 10% – now add in EVs and where exactly is all the new electricity supposed to come from – won’t be from wind & solar
Amazing how everything works better when the government is in charge.
Let’s go full communism, then the world will be perfect.
BTW, 5 of your 6 complaints are due to government action, yet you insist that the problem is privatization.
I’d like to hear the genius tell us where mass transit has been privatized! Every single one I’m aware of is government run and they keep going down hill and getting worse.
Public transport works pretty well in Europe where you can get a train from almost anywhere to anywhere at a reasonable price. That’ll never happen in North America.
Or England
Khan’s tube fell over promptly this morning
And it’s cheaper to fly from Manchester to London than to take the train
If you live outside big towns or cities in Britain, public transport varies from appalling to non-existent.
Well, heck, our climate saving warriors, as they plan the future perfect world, will plan for public transport everywhere on the planet. What’s a few more quadrillion dollars when it’ll cost countless quadrillion to get to net zero- so for a few more they’ll fix the transport problem in Britain. Sure they will. You can trust them.
It happened once in North America. From the 1800’s till about 1960’s you could take the train from small towns and cities into the urban hubs. The rail lines were originally built for freight and ag products but doubled as passenger trains as well. The advent of long-haul and short-haul trucking put almost all of these lines out of business. This was advanced even further with the implementation of airline service between urban hubs, again starting in the 50’s onward.
The entire housing situation is different today between NA and Europe. My son and several friends travelled Europe for six weeks a number of years ago after they got out of college. They found train service between cities to be cheap and readily available. Once in the cities, however, LOTS of walking no matter where they went. They also found that in Europe people tended to congregate around local neighborhoods where lots of things were available, from food, clothes, hardware, etc and provided by small business. Much like the Central West End in St. Louis or the various hubs in the Boston area. Most of America is not built that way today, not even in the small cities like Topeka, KS. You either drive or spend a LOT of time dragging a luggage cart onto and off a bus and a LOT of walking just to get to the grocery store, the hardware store, and a clothing store for a new shirt all in one trip.
It would take at least three generations and probably more to change the face of North America to resemble Europe and its transportation network if it would be possible at all. It’s not going to happen in 20 years or even thirty years. A general, widespread uprising by the common people is far more likely to happen first. You can see signs of it already. Trump is just the very tip of the iceberg of the rise of populism in the US. The Democrats losing the working people and the minorities is the canary in the coal mine. It’s not going to just go away.
Trains work great when traveling between large cities that are relatively close together. That’s the case in much of Europe and in some regions of the US. But in the US we have lots of travel between cities that are 500 to 2500 miles apart where air travel takes hours but train/car travel takes days. And in the US where cities are close together, driving 1 to 4 hours is often preferred as once you arrive you have a car for local transport and don’t need to take taxis or buses from a central station to get where you’re going.
The DC to NYC corridor has population densities that are similar to that of Europe and from what I hear trains aren’t too bad there.
For the rest of the US, population densities are much, much smaller and distances between population centers are much greater.
This makes train travel difficult.
I have used the public transportation in two major metro areas of the USA: San Francisco Bay Area and the Denver Regional area for many years. In both areas, the public transportation was well developed and one could get to almost anywhere within a reasonable amount of time for much less than owning a private vehicle. In the Denver area from 1999 to 2012, I gave up the car and rode a bicycle exclusively in all weather conditions from deep snow to clear weather commuting to various jobs at all hours of the day.
Contrast that to the area that I now live in the very rural northern Florida where there is zero public transportation anywhere. Even the rail lines connecting the small towns were completely removed decades ago. Most paved roads do not even have bicycle lanes and there is an entire network of dirt roads that might see a road grader once or twice a year to smooth it out. A motor vehicle is an absolute necessity here. The nearest large metro area of Tallahassee is over 100 miles away.
Remember that the reason why public transportation is cheap is because not many people use it and the tax payer is picking up about 90% of the cost.
Exactly. If the commuter had to pay the fully burdened cost, the system would be discontinued.
When one sees the planned battery factories planned in IL and MI, it could be that the plan is to produce the cars in China and produce and mount the batteries locally, which would reduce risks during transport. For US and EU auto workers, there won’t be many jobs left.
No, making the batteries in China is cheaper for reasons of wages, no unions, lax environmental regulations and so on.
The batteries will just be made a bit sturdier and eventually be replaced with solid electrolyte batteries and the explosion risk will be gone or reduced greatly.
China should never have been allowed into the WTO back in the 90’s.
By definition (of rechargeable battery): There is no such thing as ‘solid electrolyte‘
For any rechargeable battery, ions of some sort (usually metal) are required to move/flow from one electrode to the other, then back again.
Pray tell, what sort of ions or anything can physically move through A Solid Something Else
(Apart from Hydrogen through steel)
Somebody somewhere has devised what they call ‘Metal Lithium’ batteries = where one of the electrodes is just that: Solid Lithium metal
It gets over the myriad problems of Graphite, Iron, Phosphate etc etc whatever whatever electrodes
It is claimed to deliver a 600+ mile battery at half the size/weight of Lithium Ion and be able to recharge in 20 minutes
Total BS
The Lithium Metal battery is a ‘primary’ cell
i.e. It is not rechargeable (presently)
Only ‘secondary’ batteries are rechargeable
Consider that 600 miles range would require a minimum of 240kWh, so to charge that in 20 minutes requires a power flow of 240/0.3 = 800kiloWatts
Just what, just who is gonna attach something of that sort of grunt to a glorified golf-cart cum shopping-trolley, in the dark and pouring rain and kids in the back during a typical English Summer (July), let alone anytime during the other 11 months of the year?
How did this world fill with so much shit (and gullible people swallowing it all down)
At 800kW, even a 1% loss due to heating is going to bring things to the boil mighty fast.
A kettle, (in the lands with 230V), can run at 2.3kW. A 1% loss at 800kW is 8kW. For 20 Minutes.
Would you sit in the car on top of the battery? Would you leave the kids strapped into their child restraint seating?
“Would you leave the kids strapped into their child restraint seating?” It depends – would you rather have a multi-million dollar lawsuit settlement than those children?
I an finding this level of “Low Resolution Thinking” everywhere. Common sense back of the envelope calculations of the first order are derided as being nothing more than skeptics not wanting change. It appears that much of our society is both innumerate and simple minded. To see people with college degrees incapable of understanding the basic principles of math and science really scares me for they are making decisions upon things they do not understand, and apply magical thinking that by assigning it to someone it will just work. That is until it doesn’t.
How?
Ans.: In the 1960’s- 1980’s, Leftists took over nearly all of the Schools of Education / Department of Education at the colleges and universities.
Then the teachers unions at the K – 12 schools required credentials from those colleges and universities as a requirement of employment at a school.
Now young people have been thoroughly indoctrinated for 2-3 generations, and they have no idea how to think for themselves.
It was essentially Gramsci’s plan in action.
Uneducated people are much easier to convince/control.
Of course the battery is cheaper to produce in China, but with already the two cases of total disaster fires with transport ships will make insurance costs for shipping skyrocket. It could also be, that no shipping company will want to take that risk anymore. Then, production and installation of the batteries locally is the better option.
And they’ll be paid less. The production will be automated, needing few workers, and installing the batteries will be a low skilled job so there’s no way they’ll get the pay currently earned by American auto workers.
The cost of the equipment that will make and install the battery is going to be a lot less than the cost building cars. This means the cost of entry for new competitors will also be less.
And who is building the battery factories?????
“China’s biggest-selling auto brand, has a 25% cost advantage over North American and European brands”
So, the American auto labor unions think the solution is to demand a 46% pay raise?
It isn’t cricket if we haven’t got one hand tied behind our back….
I hear you also get free marshmallows with the Chinese EVs….
This is the Ed Markey “who could have known?” policy fail strategy on steroids.
Markey’s only real world experience outside of government was driving a Mr. Softee ice cream truck. Apparently that’s still the only thing he’s qualified to do.
Controlled demolition with some uncontrolled casualties….
story tip
Congo miners
https://youtube.com/shorts/-O-ruqYTJKw?si=JVOacH57PYW_vPb3
I will never buy an EV. I can completely rebuild to brand new every vehicle I own, from the ground up, for the cost of one EV. Since my vehicles are already in good shape I can use the savings for fuel because in the end EV’s are just not cost effective.Even with all the price increases and the carbon tax I still only use about $2500 to $3000 worth of gas per year. So not buying an EV can buy me a lifetime of fuel. Of course I’m getting quite old so that is not saying much.🤷♂️😊
With that attitude, you’ll surely be queued for the “Re-education camp” …
Won’t work. I’m an “Old Dog” I don’t do new tricks.😉😊
EV car insurance is 2 to 3 times higher than for a gasoline car, wiping out any energy cost savings from using them.
A gasoline car should be amortized over 12 years with 144,000 miles
An EV should be amortized over 8 years with 72,000 miles
On top of that, the A to Z, lifetime CO2 is about the same as an efficient gasoline car.
All those countries going for EVs are royally screwing themselves, their economies, their industries, their people, plus the poor people in
under-developed countries producing the raw materials for EVs
Fossil fuels were God’s gift to mankind.
CO2 is a fuel for fauna and flora.
If CO2 is too low, less than 200 ppm, flora STARVES, BECOMES MEASLY
The optimum CO2 level for flora is 1,000 ppm, as proven in green houses
CO2 IS A LIFE GAS; NO CO2 = NO FLORA AND NO FAUNA
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/co2-is-a-life-gas-no-co2-no-life
Doesn’t matter. Get your pitchfork and torch, we’re gonna need them soon.
It is not just EVs
Biden’s OFFSHORE WIND MANDATES are a controlled demolition of the ENTIRE U.S.
See URL
US/UK 66,000 MW OF OFFSHORE WIND BY 2030; AN EXPENSIVE FANTASY
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/biden-30-000-mw-of-offshore-wind-systems-by-2030-a-total-fantasy