Jeremy P Shapiro. Source The Conversation, Fair Use, Low Resolution Image to Identify the Subject.

“The thinking error that makes people susceptible to climate change denial”

Essay by Eric Worrall

“… Climate change deniers simplify the spectrum of possible scientific consensus into two categories: 100% agreement or no consensus at all. If it’s not one, it’s the other. …”

The thinking error that makes people susceptible to climate change denial

Published: May 2, 2023 10.13pm AEST
Jeremy P. Shapiro
Adjunct Assistant Professor of Psychological Sciences, Case Western Reserve University

Cold spells often bring climate change deniers out in force on social media, with hashtags like #ClimateHoax and #ClimateScam. Former President Donald Trump often chimes in, repeatedly claiming that each cold snap disproves the existence of global warming.

From a scientific standpoint, these claims of disproof are absurd. Fluctuations in the weather don’t refute clear long-term trends in the climate

Yet many people believe these claims, and the political result has been reduced willingness to take action to mitigate climate change.

Why are so many people susceptible to this type of disinformation? My field, psychology, can help explain – and help people avoid being misled.

The allure of black-and-white thinking

Close examination of the arguments made by climate change deniers reveals the same mistake made over and over again. That mistake is the cognitive error known as black-and-white thinking, also called dichotomous and all-or-none thinking. As I explain in my book “Finding Goldilocks,” black-and-white thinking is a source of dysfunction in mental health, relationships – and politics.

Climate change deniers simplify the spectrum of possible scientific consensus into two categories: 100% agreement or no consensus at all. If it’s not one, it’s the other.

Read more: https://theconversation.com/the-thinking-error-that-makes-people-susceptible-to-climate-change-denial-204607

Do any of you seriously believe a single cold snap disproves global warming?

I personally support the premise that the world has warmed since the mid 1800s, and anthropogenic CO2 likely contributed. A single cold snap is not proof that global warming has stopped, that would be an absurd proposition.

But climate alarmists seem all too ready to promote the black and white thinking fallacy Professor Shapiro accuses deniers of embracing, they seem very ready to spin every heatwave as proof of the global warming end times.

For example;

3Q: Why Europe is so vulnerable to heat waves

Climate modeling shows that this summer’s devastating European heat wave may indeed be a harbinger of the future for that region.

David L. Chandler | MIT News Office
Publication Date: October 11, 2022

This year saw high-temperature records shattered across much of Europe, as crops withered in the fields due to widespread drought. Is this a harbinger of things to come as the Earth’s climate steadily warms up? 

Elfatih Eltahir, MIT professor of civil and environmental engineering and H. M. King Bhumibol Professor of Hydrology and Climate, and former doctoral student Alexandre Tuel PhD ’20 recently published a piece in the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists describing how their research helps explain this anomalous European weather. The findings are based in part on analyses described in their book “Future Climate of the Mediterranean and Europe,” published earlier this year. MIT News asked the two authors to describe the dynamics behind these extreme weather events.

Q: Was the European heat wave this summer anticipated based on existing climate models?

Eltahir: Climate models project increasingly dry summers over Europe. This is especially true for the second half of the 21st century, and for southern Europe. Extreme dryness is often associated with hot conditions and heat waves, since any reduction in evaporation heats the soil and the air above it. In general, models agree in making such projections about European summers. However, understanding the physical mechanisms responsible for these projections is an active area of research.

Read more: https://news.mit.edu/2022/europe-heat-waves-climate-change-1011

What about Professor Shapiro’s claim that President Trump thinks cold snaps disprove global warming?

Do any of you seriously believe President Trump thinks cold snaps disprove global warming? Or is it more likely he is poking fun at alarmists?

Did this humorous tweet get included in Professor Shapiro’s analysis? Was it part of his proof that climate deniers, and he specifically cited President Trump, are black and white thinkers?

If so, how could Professor Shapiro make such an obvious mistake?

My personal theory is most greens don’t possess a sense of humour, so they have difficulty recognising humour when they see it. I accept that Professor Shapiro genuinely believes Trump is being serious when he pokes fun at climate alarmist tropes.

Of course, I’m not an adjunct assistant professor of psychological sciences, whatever that is. Feel free to share your own theory, about what might have gone wrong with Professor Shapiro’s analysis.

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wh
May 3, 2023 6:04 pm

If you ask me, the cherry picking cold is a refreshing change that acts as a balance to the constant barrage of heat apocalypse on the media. They’re hypocrites; cold is just weather, yet heat is climate change. Never mind that every time there’s record heat there’s usually record cold nearby.

Martin Brumby
Reply to  wh
May 3, 2023 11:58 pm

Actually, folk who come on here seem always to point out that climate has always changed, does change and always will change.

So how come we are Climate Change Deniers?

Well, before that, we were Global Warming Deniers.

And, in the words of Jim Hansen, coal trains are actually “death trains”. And Coal fired power stations are “death factories”.

I wonder if this Professor of Psychology might be able to work out exactly what is going on here?

Or perhaps it is he that is joking.

Although in GangGreen circles they likely support Ayatollah Khomenie’s stricture “There are No jokes in Islam.”

Nor in Climate Make Believe.

Obviously.

Decaf
Reply to  Martin Brumby
May 4, 2023 4:38 am

Absolutely no joking allowed. This is grim stuff for them. Their being depends on this being taken seriously, as if when that happens they’ll begin to find some joy in life. (They won’t).

I think joylessness is at the root of all the rubbish ideology we’re seeing. The joyless see happy people just getting along in life and they don’t like that because they’re so burdened by every little thing. And they think that if we take their burdens seriously and make them ours as well, they’ll be happy (probably only because they suspect we won’t be happy any more).

(Here I’m equating “happy” with not feeling obliged to live by an ideology ALL THE TIME. I don’t think anyone can be happy for even a second with that kind of overlord.)

Ex-KaliforniaKook
Reply to  Martin Brumby
May 6, 2023 5:32 pm

Well, before that, we were Global Warming Deniers.”

Before that, I was a Global Cooling Denier. That was in the ’70s. Doesn’t seem that long ago.

May 3, 2023 6:08 pm

Our friends on the left accuse others of what they do.

Editor
Reply to  Steve Case
May 3, 2023 6:24 pm

Hey, I was going to say that.

Reply to  Steve Case
May 4, 2023 2:23 am

The Iron Law of Woke Protection never fails.

ScienceABC123
Reply to  Steve Case
May 4, 2023 4:14 am

“Accuse your enemy of what you are doing, as you are doing it to create confusion.” – Karl Marx

Ian_e
Reply to  ScienceABC123
May 4, 2023 6:27 am

Sounds like Groucho too!

May 3, 2023 6:09 pm

Shapiro is guilty of the binary thinking that he accuses ‘deniers’ of committing. He can’t see that he is painting all those who don’t accept the paradigm, with the same broad brush and is therefore reducing the dissent and skepticism to denier or acceptor with no grey between. “There are none so blind as those who will not see.” But, then this was published in The Conversation.

Scissor
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
May 3, 2023 7:10 pm
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
May 4, 2023 4:13 am

The first mistake Shapiro, like every other Climate Fascist cheerleader, makes is assuming that “human induced climate change” is a proven factual concept.

There remains ZERO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE that atmospheric CO2 “drives” the Earth’s temperature. AND there is plenty of empirical evidence that it does no such thing. In order for people who don’t agree with the Scriptures of the Church of Global Warming to be “denying” the existence of something, one must first provide EVIDENCE OF ITS EXISTENCE. “Hypothetical bullshit” is NOT evidence.

And yes, we climate realists love to poke fun by commenting about cold weather, extended periods where temperatures don’t climb despite rising CO2 levels, etc. because the Climate Fascists constantly point at every hot stretch of weather, storm, etc. as “evidence of ‘climate change,'” when it is no such thing. It is ALL JUST WEATHER.

Reply to  AGW is Not Science
May 4, 2023 6:16 am

How many alarmist articles have you seen recently that start “Just look outside your window…” counting on the power of suggestion (and the Begging the Question fallacy) to win their point.

Reply to  AGW is Not Science
May 4, 2023 9:24 am

“The first mistake Shapiro, like every other Climate Fascist cheerleader, makes is assuming that “human induced climate change” is a proven factual concept.”

Yes, Shapiro, and other climate alarmists are assuming way too much.

I would ask Shapiro to produce the defninitve evidence he thinks he has that proves CO2 is doing anything to the Earth’s weather or climate. His opinion must be based on something. What is it?

Mr. Shapiro, I’ve been looking for definitive evidence of a link between CO2 and the Earth’s weather for decades now, and haven’t seen one shred of evidence that CO2 is doing anything detrimental to the Earth’s atmosphere or anything else. At this point, we don’t know whether CO2 is net warming or net cooling. But here you are assuming net warming.

Help me out here. Give me a reason to stop being a climate change skeptic. (I’m betting Shapiro’s only “evidence” is a Hockey Stick chart).

And of course, we all know, that Mr. Shapiro could not provide such evidence even if his life depended on doing so because there is no such evidence. All climat alarmists have is speculation, and unsubstantiated assumptions and assertions. No evidence.

Climate Alarmists are invited to try to prove that wrong.

I predict we won’t hear a peep out of the climate alarmists on this topic. You ask a climate alarmist for evidence and suddenly they go quiet. That ought to tell you something. Here you have a climate change skeptic taunting the climate change alarmists, and we won’t hear a peep out of the climate change alarmists because the truth is they don’t have any evidence, so they remain silent.

Prove it. That’s all you have to do to change a skeptic to a believer.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
May 5, 2023 10:05 am

See, no replies. We know why. They know why.

Yet they persist in being alarmists.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
May 5, 2023 2:16 am

Shapiro looks uncannily like Leon Trotsky. Similar politics too.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
May 5, 2023 7:32 pm

It’s like someone who calls everyone and everything racist; that being defined where race is an integral part of everything. So, who really is the racist?

Tom Halla
May 3, 2023 6:13 pm

I am old enough to have had Freudian professors, so Professor Shapiro is engaged in projection. It is not that “deniers” make any doubt into something that disproves CAGW, it is that Green True Believers that equate any questioning of their current disaster claims with being morally equivalent to Neo-Nazis denying the Holocaust.

Reply to  Tom Halla
May 4, 2023 3:25 am

I have never been able to get an answer to the question…

What do we “deny” that they have solid, repeatable scientific proof for?

AGW is akin to a Grimm Bros fairy-tale when it comes to scientific basis.

It is like saying we deny the existence of the Big Bad Wolf, or Goldilocks, or the Easter Bunny.

Edward Katz
May 3, 2023 6:18 pm

Whatever warming is occurring is probably a combination of natural causes, as in the past, and ,to a smaller degree, human activity. The problem is that the so-called experts can’t put a number on either, though the alarmists try to convince us that it’s strictly due to the latter. The reality is that neither governments nor businesses, nor industries nor consumers are going to do enough about the issue because it will cost them too much money and/or inconvenience.

Reply to  Edward Katz
May 3, 2023 6:24 pm

They put a number of 💯 % on human Causes because they don’t have the ability to differentiate the sources.

Martin Brumby
Reply to  Streetcred
May 4, 2023 12:08 am

Don’t forget that, to some extent, all sorts of stuff has an effect on Climate.

Deforrestation. Building Dams and impoundig reservoirs, Urbanisation.

Then there are the effects of herds of elephants. Termites. Plankton.

But one thing is quite clear. The tiny increase in temperatures in the last 150 years and the tiny increase in a trace gas essential to all life on Earth that followed that trivial warming has been 100% beneficial.

Nevada_Geo
Reply to  Martin Brumby
May 4, 2023 12:37 am

Beneficial? It depends on your point of view. True, the increase in warming and the increase in plant food (CO2) have given us an increase of arable land in higher latitudes, and an overall increased greening of the planet as seen from space (https://bit.ly/3nr14Sp). Consequently the planet can sustain more human beings, and the burning of fossil fuels can be recognized as a net benefit, not at all evil.

I’m sorry, but there is a large, vocal contingent for whom all if this is quite intolerable.

William Howard
Reply to  Edward Katz
May 4, 2023 8:08 am

yep – NA was actually in a mini-ice age period until about 1865 so it makes perfect sense that things would be warmer after the end of that period – in some of my old Texas history books there are notes about Trinity Bay, a salt water body of water actually freezing enough for people to walk across in the early 1800s – now that’s cold

Editor
Reply to  Edward Katz
May 4, 2023 2:47 pm

The reality is that neither governments nor businesses, nor industries nor consumers are going to do enough about the issue because it will cost them too much money and/or inconvenience.“. That’s true, of course, but it isn’t the problem. The problem is that governments are spending far too much on it for political not climate reasons, And they spend our money.

bobclose
Reply to  Edward Katz
May 5, 2023 2:06 am

That may be the case now for governments and businesses, but as soon as the climate/energy financial penalties bite with ongoing policies that create more expensive energy, fueling inflation, reducing industry jobs etc you will see everybody complaining. They will put social media pressure on politicians, media and scientists to prove the alarmist case or give it up as a stupid bad idea that is not going to solve anything, never mind change any climate dials towards ‘normal’. We sceptics of human climate change have sufficient evidence now to blow away any orthodox belief in any kind of immanent climate emergency. The whole climate thing is only held together by the gravy train of massive funding in academia and renewable energy subsidies, once that is withdrawn by exposure of the real scientific data, the facade collapses. When lifestyle hardships and blackouts hit the middle classes voting for Greens, Teals and Labor, support for the climate drama will evaporate, they will finally realism their altruism has been misplaced, and they will be angry, taking it out on culpable politicians like Bowen and Co.

David Albert
May 3, 2023 6:30 pm

This amounts to a stated hypothesis with no data to support it. He states it as fact but explains it without any evidence other than his own supposition. The psychology professor flunks logic 101.

Kpar
Reply to  David Albert
May 3, 2023 7:34 pm

Is psychology really a science?

Reply to  Kpar
May 3, 2023 8:07 pm

Its there with Economics, climate change as an academic pseudo-science

Has much more in common with marketing/advertising as academic study as they say with advertising in practice 50% is wasted but dont know which half

Martin Brumby
Reply to  Duker
May 4, 2023 12:10 am

Almost as “Scientific” as Trans Gender Studies.

Reply to  Kpar
May 4, 2023 3:27 am

There are some who would class propaganda, as a science.

Reply to  bnice2000
May 4, 2023 4:16 am

Yes. Some are called “the ‘leading’ climate scientists.”

rpercifield
May 3, 2023 6:39 pm

I call projection, he is describing what the APGW do with any weather, good, bad or indifferent. It is amazing that they cannot see this…..

denny
May 3, 2023 6:40 pm

The professor doesn’t understand what trolling leftwingers is all about. That was what Trump was doing and what skeptics often do just to get a rise out of them. Skeptics don’t need a lecture about binary thinking. We see it every day when ever the warmists pop up.

bruce a kopitz
Reply to  denny
May 3, 2023 7:27 pm

I agree with all the above comments. The professor begins his argumentation by postulating a number of assumptions, with which I partially disagree. His primary assumption is climate change is true. I can readily agree with that, because climate is always changing. His second assumption is a whopper: Climate change is man-made. I and everyone else commenting disagree with that assumption. Neither he nor anyone else can prove the portion of change for which man is responsible. But when facts run out, faith intervenes. For the rabid followers (greenies), the matter becomes religious. For the lead greenies (AKA communists and socialists), the issue was always control of the masses. The lead greenies have seized significant power by preaching this religion. However, resistance is sharpening, as the Neanderthalic standard of living which accrues from the green agenda becomes apparent. Automakers are now planning on the continuation of the IC engine. The Brits are fighting the 15 minute city concept, and heat pumps in every home, and unaffordable utilities, and all the rest. A farmer’s revolt is brewing in the Netherlands. Americans see the destruction of the former destination states of California and New York, now leading the nation in emigration and population reduction.

We all believe climate is changing, and some portion is man-made (light a match, and you have warmed the planet to some immeasurable degree). But reasonable analysis indicates that our portion of the responsibility is small (read Steven Koonin “Unsettled”). However, the damage imposed by the immediate adoption of unworkable electric “cars”, elimination of natural gas heating and electrical generation, the incredible expense of solar and wind-generated electricity, the impossible expense of tripling our electrical grids and so on – these accumulated costs will bankrupt nations and decimate the middle class. The great masses are waking up to this reality. We need technologies, like fusion power, batteries and electric cars, to evolve and, when they are superior, replace current technologies. In the 20th century, we didn’t simply mandate an automobile industry – it grew by developing superior alternatives to horses and trains. Later in the same epoch, the Soviets did mandate an auto industry, and got the Trabant. Time to slow down, to wait a few ticks. Eating our bread before it is baked will only make all of us sick.

Reply to  bruce a kopitz
May 4, 2023 4:41 am

Agree with the exception that batteries will never “evolve” to the point that allows EVs to have equivalent utility and practicality of ICE vehicles.

Reply to  bruce a kopitz
May 4, 2023 5:23 am

The promising thing with the Dutch farming situation is that the opposition is being seen at the ballot box. Of course, the Dutch government is simply doing what its EU masters are telling it to do, but the rise of the Farmers Party can at least threaten how acquiescent the Dutch Govt will be to EU diktats. There are local elections due here in the UK, I don’t know if any ’15 minute city’ councils are up for grabs but if there are it’ll be interesting to see if there’s any backlash from voters.

John Oliver
May 3, 2023 6:42 pm

Is’nt there a non binary oracle in a vapor filled cave somewhere that can settle this issue once and for all?

terry
May 3, 2023 6:51 pm

You can have a PhD and lack any common sense. Met a lot of profs like that in university days. That’s why they teach. Eltahir should be ashamed of himself for this level of sterotyping.

Reply to  terry
May 3, 2023 8:22 pm

Hes an adjunct , seems to have a day job or something
His advice on couples therapy – probably his day job makes sense
https://www.psychologytoday.com/nz/blog/thinking-in-black-white-and-gray/202112/why-trying-fix-relationship-sometimes-makes-things

Im wondering if the editors at the Conversation cut important parts of his article before publication, as thats their schtick to use journalism techniques and editing

Drake
Reply to  terry
May 4, 2023 11:59 am

You can have a PhD and lack any common sense. Met a lot of profs like that in university days. That’s why they teach.

You forgot to add “and run the executive branch of almost every liberal led government including Brandon’s administration.”

The Ivory Tower % in the current US appointments exceed any ever from the past, and the % during Democrat administrations have increases consistently with every new Dem POTUS.

And the results are as would be expected.

Dennis Gerald Sandberg
May 3, 2023 6:57 pm

Two fun comments from the article:


A 2021 review of thousands of climate science papers and conference proceedings concluded that over 99% of studies have found that burning fossil fuels warms the planet. That’s not good enough for some skeptics.

However, the current warming is on par with nothing humans have ever seen, and intense warming events in the distant past were planetwide disasters that caused massive
extinctions – something we do not want to repeat.

comment: 1) So much for the 97% consensus, it’s now 99% that all deniers agree with and are surprised it’s not 100% (and he accuses us of ‘black and white thinking”, and 2) the professor must not have taken Historical Geology in pursuit of his education having missed learning about the Minoan, Roman, and Medieval Warms.

Scissor
Reply to  Dennis Gerald Sandberg
May 3, 2023 7:12 pm

Make it 110%.

Reply to  Scissor
May 3, 2023 11:28 pm

I see your 110% and raise you 52.298%

Reply to  Dennis Gerald Sandberg
May 3, 2023 7:53 pm

“However, the current warming is on par with nothing humans have ever seen, and intense warming events in the distant past were planetwide disasters that caused massive
extinctions – something we do not want to repeat”

Too late. We’re already repeating warmth similar to the previous warmings that, before climate science was hijacked were known as climate OPTIMUMS for life that flourished because of them.
Medieval Warm Period
Roman Warm Period
Minoan Warm Period.

However, we have a ways to go in order to warm the higher latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere up to Holocene Climate OPTIMUM temperatures between 9,000-5,000 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_climatic_optimum

Of 140 sites across the western Arctic, there is clear evidence for conditions that were warmer than now at 120 sites. At 16 sites for which quantitative estimates have been obtained, local temperatures were on average 1.6±0.8 °C higher during the optimum than now. Northwestern North America reached peak warmth first, from 11,000 to 9,000 years ago, but the Laurentide Ice Sheet still chilled eastern Canada. Northeastern North America experienced peak warming 4,000 years later. Along the Arctic Coastal Plain in Alaska, there are indications of summer temperatures 2–3 °C warmer than now.[9] Research indicates that the Arctic had less sea ice than now.[10]

Study: Cold kills 20 times more people than heathttps://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2015/05/20/cold-weather-deaths/27657269/

History books and authentic climate science tells us with certainty that humans existed during all those previous warmings………..and they did much better because of it.

This guy tells us that following authentic, proven history and science is flawed thinking but his laughably extreme, manufactured junk science(fiction) is supposed to be proof of that?

Reply to  Mike Maguire
May 3, 2023 7:57 pm

The 2nd link above was not separated from the title.
Study: Cold kills 20 times more people than heat

https://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2015/05/20/cold-weather-deaths/27657269/

Graham
Reply to  Mike Maguire
May 4, 2023 2:03 am

I agree with what you have written Mike,
Those so called scientists pushing global warming are the deniers .
They will not accept the evidence that you have written about .
There is plenty of proof that this world has been warmer than it is at present at least 3 times since the last major Ice Age .
The world has warmed around 1.6C since 1850 which was when the earth started warming up from the Little Ice Age which was a cold cruel time in Europe and the northern hemisphere .
There is far more water vapour in the atmosphere that overlaps any effect that the trace gases CO2 CH4 and NO2 may have .
The theory of runaway global warming is that more CO2 will some how warm the atmosphere that will then hold more water vapour and the climate will go into overdrive.
We have already seen the Tongan volcanic eruption in early 2022 that threw an estimated 185 million tonnes of sea water into the atmosphere .
The effects are slowly dissipating as this amount of water and the heat that it held has to be expelled to the poles .
New Zealand has been in the path of the tropical cyclones and they are now talking about atmospheric rivers moving south taking this extra water vapour and heat to Antarctica .

hiskorr
Reply to  Dennis Gerald Sandberg
May 4, 2023 7:12 am

“…burning fossil fuels warms the planet.” And Earth’s natural and generated radioactivity “warms the planet”, as do cosmic rays and meteor showers. The question is: by how much? Compared to the vast amounts of energy absorbed from the sun and radiated from Earth into space, and the wide variations in these quantities over both time and the Earth’s surface, are these other energy sources significant, or trivial? With the exception of natural radioactivity, I’d vote for trivial. The CAGW crowd has latched onto the possibility that a minute change in atmospheric composition can cause drastic changes in this complex and always changing. energy balance. Color me skeptical.

rah
May 3, 2023 7:04 pm

“My personal theory is most greens don’t possess a sense of humour, so they have difficulty recognising humour when they see it. I accept that Professor Shapiro genuinely believes Trump is being serious when he pokes fun at climate alarmist tropes.”

They are just miserable and looking for any excuse to portray others as stupid or ignorant.

Reply to  rah
May 4, 2023 9:40 am

And Trump said that back in 2012, before he was running for political office.

Forrest Gardener
May 3, 2023 7:13 pm

What might have gone wrong with Shapiro’s analysis?

The same thing that nearly always goes wrong when people try to denigrate others. The failure to perceive the failings of the person they see in a mirror.

Barbara McKenzie
May 3, 2023 7:15 pm

Some good points here and in comments. The good adjunct assistant professor takes cagw as as self-evident, a given, and any dispute must arise from wrong thinking on the part of the sceptic. Presumably he is unfamiliar with the climate debate, else he would know that the claiming idiosyncracies of weather as proof of long-term climate trend is closely associated with climate cultists.

However I was startled to read that Eric Worrall believes that anthropogenic CO2 is the cause of recent warming, rather than eg us emerging from the Little Ice Age.

Reply to  Barbara McKenzie
May 3, 2023 10:49 pm

I can’t speak for Eric, but I don’t think he said that. What I read was that it is warming and CO2 is involved. Like saying vinegar is involved in the enjoyment of a Fish Supper, a minor not measurable role and not everyone agrees

Nevada_Geo
May 3, 2023 7:17 pm

“Climate change denier” is a term that has no objective definition. That term is, in fact, an expression of unreasoned bigotry against anyone who uses science to oppose someone who has a distaste for the scientific method.

The first rule of Debate Club is that no one talks about Debate Club.

The second rule of Debate Club is: The first person to use ad hominems or other baseless categorization of their opponent loses the debate.

Professor Shapiro has lost the debate.

Professor Shapiro is hereby cancelled.

Tom.1
May 3, 2023 7:40 pm

There is a high degree of non-critical thinking on both sides of this issue.

Reply to  Tom.1
May 3, 2023 8:29 pm

Vastly more from the alarmist side who are prone to swallow everything told to them by the establishment. Their knowledge of actual observations are scant and they rely more on the speculation of who they consider authority. General knowledge of climate related issues is much higher among sceptics

Reply to  Tom.1
May 4, 2023 5:03 am

probably, but the side claiming absolute truth and that we must spend hundreds of trillions of dollars to solve the problem, and we must drastically change everything about our civilization to get “climate justice”- meaning social revolution- that side is the crazy and dangerous one

Drake
Reply to  Tom.1
May 4, 2023 12:05 pm

Almost EVERY DEMOCRAT I have ever known will agree with the premise that “All politicians lie”.

But they will never agree that Dem or Lib politicians who lie should be removed from office or NOT re-elected.

But MOST Republicans/conservatives who are caught up in their lies are NOT re-elected, and generally removed in the primaries.

scadsobees
May 3, 2023 7:54 pm

Where is Case Western Reserve? Sounds like a cattle railway line to me. He’d better get some grants so he can fly private around the world to study the issue. Just guessing that that’s what he’s hoping for.

Reply to  scadsobees
May 3, 2023 8:24 pm

Cleveland . Western reserve is just an old name for Ohio before it became a state

denny
Reply to  Duker
May 4, 2023 1:43 am

Thanks for that. I guess we never get to old to learn something. I’m a little embarrassed to admit I didn’t know that, especially since I live next door.

Reply to  Duker
May 4, 2023 6:36 am

At one time it was part of the original Connecticut charter, who eventually ceded it to the Federal government. (Note the separation caused by NYS and PA.)

“This became its Western Reserve. In 1795 it sold most of this land to a group of investors who had formed the Connecticut Land Company and in the following year the company began the survey of the land to prepare it for sale. The survey party was led by Moses Cleaveland, the namesake of Cleveland, Ohio.”

Reply to  George Daddis
May 4, 2023 8:44 am

Moses, dividing up the promised land.

John Hultquist
Reply to  scadsobees
May 3, 2023 8:53 pm

See the map here.
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Note the connection to Connecticut.

Reply to  scadsobees
May 4, 2023 8:42 am

It seems to me that The Conversation is an easy way for liberal academics to meet their quota of publications. It helps if the submission supports the agenda of editors who have publicly stated that they will remove comments that do not toe their editorial line. I have personally had comments removed for making the author look incompetent.

May 3, 2023 8:07 pm

The New Left are the people they warned you about…

observa
May 3, 2023 8:13 pm

Do any of you seriously believe a single cold snap disproves global warming?

About as much as every hot spell drought bushfire or tree ring pointed to hysterically by the usual suspects proves catastrophic anthropogenic global warming. It all just goes to demonstrate the null hypothesis that the climate is always changing.

Reply to  observa
May 3, 2023 10:57 pm

Following the lead of the main TV News channels available in the UK I blame everything on the Climate Emergency. Everything from burning the breakfast toast, it’s made the bread more susceptible to burning, to running out of milk for the tea it’s affected my memory.
If it happens it’s the Climate Emergency don’t you know.

May 3, 2023 8:29 pm

Since the weather must change for 30 years in order for climate to change, where are all the weather change deniers?

Dave Fair
Reply to  doonman
May 4, 2023 11:01 am

Since the (extreme) weather has not changed in over 100 years, what is this climate change we are talking about? The slight warming the Earth has experienced has not caused weather to change over multi-decadal climatic time intervals. Climate change as envisioned by alarmists has not been occurring. We need to keep pointing out this fact.

May 3, 2023 8:36 pm

Cold spells often bring climate change deniers out in force on social media, with hashtags like #ClimateHoax and #ClimateScamFormer President Donald Trump often chimes in, repeatedly claiming that each cold snap disproves the existence of global warming.
From a scientific standpoint, these claims of disproof are absurd. Fluctuations in the weather don’t refute clear long-term trends in the climate. ”

You see here. This is the quality of thinking from a professor. He can’t even differentiate between real arguments and popular musings on social media. This bloke should not be allowed anywhere near someone’s head.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Mike
May 4, 2023 11:03 am

The “clear long-term trends in the climate” are zero.

John Hultquist
May 3, 2023 8:44 pm

 I have mentioned this before, but it needs said again:
“Adjunct Assistant Professor”

… is a secondary sort of position usually assigned a low level class and paid a bit less than the local dog catcher. Such a person often has more than one of these positions, maybe at a different institution. Or, perhaps, there is a spouse or partner involved; or the parent’s basement. Within the academic establishment such a person has no standing. A dog catcher is only called “mayor” in jest. Jeremy Shapiro might be called “Mister” if introduced by the Department Heat to other folks.
He likely has psychological issues that cannot be determined from afar.

John Oliver
Reply to  John Hultquist
May 3, 2023 9:37 pm

They made one certain assistant adjunct law professor president once. And I think he may still be president.

Bob
May 3, 2023 9:09 pm

One of my favorite scenes in the movie Patton when Patton is talking to an aid and he says (paraphrasing) …you know how I know they are done out there? The carts, they are using carts to move their equipment…

I see psychologists adding their excuses for deniers the same way Patton saw the Germans using carts.

May 3, 2023 9:35 pm

And in the nearly 40 years since he got his PhD – he’s finally made it to the kindergarten playground.

(It’s not an intrinsic fault within himself, I am not launching Ad-Hom as he is.
He’s got the same thing Brandon has, just not as advanced.
It was ‘something he ate‘ that brought it on – and myriad tiny things he’s not eating.)

PS How much (generic) Tylenol does anyone consume – I have a hideous trufax story about that stuff too.which impinges directly here.
I wonder if our friendly local adjunct has come upon it, it doesn’t appear so.

Jeff Alberts
May 3, 2023 9:53 pm

I personally support the premise that the world has warmed since the mid 1800s”

I don’t think that position is supportable by data. But it’s an artefact of presenting “global temperature” as a single number on all the graphs we see. Even when it’s “anomalies”. they give the false impression that every temperature regime moves as one. Simply not true.

Reply to  Jeff Alberts
May 4, 2023 8:53 am

It is truly unfortunate that all the early weather stations didn’t also record wet-bulb temperatures to thereby calculate relative humidity.

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