Former spokesperson for Extinction Rebellion turns on group, now rejects climate doomsday: ‘Climate activism has a cult problem…I used to be one of them’ – ‘I watched people brainwashed’

From Climate Depot

Former Extinction Rebellion spokeswoman Zion Lights

Zion Lights: “In 2018, I joined Extinction Rebellion UK, the precursor to Just Stop Oil, the group behind this recent spate of destructive direct actions. … One of the founders of XR had watched a few of my media appearances where I spoke about climate change and stargazing. She liked that I relied on data in my talks, and asked me to join the XR Media and Messaging Team. I was catapulted from being a local participant to spokesperson for the whole organization.” …

“In a TedTalk, sociologist Janja Lalich identifies the key elements of a cult: “A cult is a group or movement with a shared commitment to a usually extreme ideology that is usually embodied in a charismatic leader.” Roger preached martyrdom—he pushed everyone to sacrifice more in order to “fill the jails”—and used fear and control as tools for wielding power. I’d often be asked by reporters if XR was a cult, and I’d say no. But it was. It’s not just Roger Hallam who inspires terror and devotion among his climate-change flock. Those qualities typify the climate change movement. … In June 2020, I finally left XR. Soon after, XR put out a statement saying that I was a climate denier and that the media should not speak to me. … Here’s the truth: if we stopped using oil today, thousands of people would be thrust into an even worse energy crisis, and the wheels of society would stop turning. We do need to replace fossil fuels—but with real alternatives, not the radical erasure Roger wants.”

By Zion Lights

Maybe you saw Van Gogh’s “Sunflowers” smeared with two cans of tomato soup. Or the 20-year-old man who set fire to his arm at a tennis tournament, wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with the words “End UK Private Jets.” Or the traffic on London’s M25 highway blocked by protesters for days. One 24-year-old girl, Louise, climbed atop a crane on the highway. “I’m here because I don’t have a future,” she exclaimed between sobs.

All these stories feature young members of a movement that claims to fight climate change by demanding their governments stop using and producing fossil fuels immediately.

Their methods seem unorthodox, and you’re probably wondering how defacing artwork or gluing your hand to the floor of a Volkswagen showroom reduces carbon emissions. I don’t blame you.

The difference between me and you is I used to be one of them.

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(via Twitter)

For the past 16 years, I was part of one environmental organization or another as an activist or paid employee. First it was Camp for Climate Action, where we protested a different corporation every year. Once, in a demonstration outside a bank in Edinburgh, we wore garbage bags and painted ourselves in molasses—a nod to the tar sands that the bank was investing in—and stormed the Royal Bank of Scotland headquarters, where I was arrested.

I became a mother in 2011, and swore off putting myself in danger, but I doubled down on my commitment to the movement. I wrote a book on ecologically minded parenting. I was the co-editor of a magazine, Juno, on the same subject. I gave talks, made television appearances, and wrote articles about the threat posed by unlivable temperatures that come from our reliance on fossil fuels.

Then, in 2018, I joined Extinction Rebellion UK, the precursor to Just Stop Oil, the group behind this recent spate of destructive direct actions.

I started out at the local level. Our group was part of the collective that took over Waterloo Bridge in London for two weeks. We packed the bridge with demonstrators and refused to leave. Extinction Rebellion, also known as XR, took over four key sites in London during that time—the largest civil obedience demonstration in decades. It got everyone buzzing.

One of the founders of XR had watched a few of my media appearances where I spoke about climate change and stargazing. She liked that I relied on data in my talks, and asked me to join the XR Media and Messaging Team. I was catapulted from being a local participant to spokesperson for the whole organization.

My days were spent writing for the national press, feeding journalists quotes and information, and editing our newspaper, The Hourglass. The people I worked with had big hearts and good intentions. Some are still my friends.

But there were red flags.

At my first XR media training, I was instructed to cry on television. “People need to see crying mothers,” Jamie Kelsey-Fry, the trainer and longtime XR activist, told me. “They need to be woken up to what they should really care about.” They asked if I’d bring my children to climate marches for the same reason. The whole thing was a masterclass on how to manipulate emotions. We were instructed to bring everything back to the climate emergency and how politicians were failing us. Nothing about solutions or science.

At the XR office in London, there was a sign that told you to keep your shoes on. Initially, I thought this was funny—a wink to our reputation as barefoot hippies—until I had to sit by people who were in fact barefoot. We had constant problems with people not cleaning up after themselves, and walking around without shoes. I remember collecting all the mugs and other dishes in the office and washing them myself so that we could have a clean environment to work in. The building’s management was always threatening to kick us out. Eventually, they did.

Another example: there was a room for healing at the office, where people could nap, meditate or get massages by volunteers. I was once called into the healing room by a friend to talk about problems in the movement. I thought this could be a productive meeting to talk about things that needed to change—for example, our focus on the end of the world—but was disappointed when we were told to pair up and share affirmations with each other. We were instructed to meditate and then connect to some higher power before sharing our feelings. There was a lot of talk about “oneness.” After about ten minutes of strange pseudoscientific practices, I left with another attendee. I wanted to fix problems, not pray.

I told myself activists can be odd birds and tried not to give it more thought. I mostly hung out with the dorkier types, like me. But over time, I realized there was something wrong, and that the guy in charge of XR, Roger Hallam, was the root of it.

Roger Hallam (via Twitter)

Roger, 56, an organic-farmer-turned-radical, is XR’s most dominant leader. He turned to activism after his farm business in Wales collapsed—a failure he blamed on extreme weather. In 2018, Roger founded XR with several people, but his ego propelled him to the top.

When I first saw Roger in the XR office in London, I didn’t see his appeal. His wiry gray hair was unkempt, and he sat behind his desk every day eating pungent homemade hummus. I noticed he didn’t pay attention to people when they talked. That we were facing certain death was his justification (or rationalization) for being rude to everyone.

Members called him a hero, and fell for his constant self-comparisons to MLK and Gandhi. He referred to himself as a prophet, and “proved” he was a martyr through regular arrests and stints in jail.

“He’s a genius,” Joel Scott-Halkes, another spokesperson, told me. Another common refrain: “He’s the only chance we’ve got.”

Roger liked to claim that war, murder and “the rape of young women on a global scale” are just around the corner.

In 2019, he called the Holocaust “just another fuckery in human history.”

While Roger insists he’s saving the human species from Armageddon, he doesn’t do the things you need to do to prevent it—like lobbying for legislation, electing sustainability-focused politicians, or fighting for actual solutions. (The Free Press got no response from Roger Hallam after sending requests for comment via email and his website.)

Nonetheless, people, especially women, clamored over him.

That’s because Roger knows his followers—mostly young men and women—feel immense guilt about their carbon-heavy lifestyles. He preys on their guilt and their anxiety about the future. You could almost describe Roger as the leader of a cult.

For any cult to work it needs to offer salvation. Roger offers that, plus a sense of purpose and belonging to the young people who flock to him.

“I won’t live to be thirty,” youth members would tell me. I tried to convince them they would live, but they were already under Roger’s spell.

In a TedTalk, sociologist Janja Lalich identifies the key elements of a cult: “A cult is a group or movement with a shared commitment to a usually extreme ideology that is usually embodied in a charismatic leader.” Roger preached martyrdom—he pushed everyone to sacrifice more in order to “fill the jails”—and used fear and control as tools for wielding power. I’d often be asked by reporters if XR was a cult, and I’d say no. But it was.

It’s not just Roger Hallam who inspires terror and devotion among his climate-change flock. Those qualities typify the climate change movement.

Just think of Greta Thunberg, at once an archangel and a Jeremiah, telling a Davos forum in 2019: “I want you to panic.” She is also heavily influenced by XR: In 2018, at 15, she was invited to attend its first assembly, which drew more than 1,000 people to London’s Parliament Square for a “Declaration of Rebellion.” She has since amplified the message of imminent apocalypse to her 5.8 million Twitter followers and beyond, building her own cult of personality in the process.

When a movement that bills itself as compassionate and democratic seems to rely so heavily on messianic figures trading in doom and gloom, you have to ask yourself: Is this really the most ethical way to change the world?

October 2019 was, for many of us in XR, a turning point.

That was when XR shut down the London Tube. I was against the action, but others targeted the Canning Town station since it had inadequate security. They didn’t care that the reason it had inadequate security was that it was underfunded because it was in a beat-up neighborhood. The people who use the Canning Town station every day are the working poor, the people who really need to get to work, the people who don’t have the luxury of working from home. I watched in horror as the news hit, showing videos of a mob pulling one activist down from atop a Tube train by his foot and kicking him.

In response to concerns about the violence, Gail Bradbrook, another XR co-founder, told me: “Disruption is what we do. This is what climate change will lead to anyway, and people need to see it.”

A few of the other spokespeople—there were six of us—refused to defend the London Tube event on TV, though some of Roger’s closest allies did. They no longer saw the need for any sort of persuasion: “We don’t need to take people along with us, Zion,” said Caspar Hughes, an older man who was likewise obsessed with Roger. “We don’t have time for that.” (Hughes was arrested this past summer after gluing himself to a copy of da Vinci’s “Last Supper.”)

The Tube disruption lost the group much-needed public support and a lot of money. It also splintered the movement.

A few weeks later, I appeared on The Andrew Neil Show. I was pressed to defend the assertion that “six billion people will die by the end of the century because of climate change,” a figure made up by Roger.

I knew that I couldn’t condemn Roger on national television, but I also couldn’t lie. The host moved on: What, exactly, did XR think we should replace gas with?

I wanted to say nuclear energy, but couldn’t. Finally, I told Andrew Neil the truth: “I’m not here to talk about solutions.”

I didn’t quit XR the night of the Andrew Neil interview. It would take a few more shocks—Roger’s grand plan (unfulfilled) to shut down Heathrow Airport by flying drones over it; his own daughter, Savannah Lovelock, breaking ties with XR over that stunt; Roger’s proposal (denied) to spend a small fortune from XR’s donations to fund a trip to the United States—in a private jet, no less—to launch the organization there.

Full article here: https://www.thefp.com/p/climate-activism-has-a-cult-problem?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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Janice Moore
January 25, 2023 2:13 pm

We do [NOT] need to replace fossil fuels… .

Bryan A
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 25, 2023 2:32 pm

We will eventually, nature just doesn’t make it fast enough, unless we come up with a cheap synthetic replacement. Technological innovation and the free market will lead the way…far better than any government edict

Janice Moore
Reply to  Bryan A
January 25, 2023 3:57 pm

What is clearly implied in her statement is: replace soon.

(And, yes, you are correct.)

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Bryan A
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 25, 2023 7:49 pm

😉

Janice Moore
Reply to  Bryan A
January 26, 2023 10:06 am

🙂

AndyHce
Reply to  Bryan A
January 25, 2023 5:23 pm

While just speculation on my part, figuring out how to use methane hydrate from the deep ocean could be far easier, and come far sooner, that nuclear fusion, possibly even much sooner than useful 4th generation thorium reactors, and possibly with less physical destruction of the source sites than some industries. There seems to be quite a bit of that stuff. If successful, where would that place “eventually”.

Bryan A
Reply to  AndyHce
January 25, 2023 7:49 pm

Eventually…

Leo Smith
Reply to  AndyHce
January 25, 2023 11:25 pm

Well no. Nuclear power is here, it works, it’s economically viable, its EROEI is massive, its sustainable and produces overall very little CO2, not that I give a rats arse about that.

I dont care whether its uranium or thorium bassed fission, molten salt, pebble bed, or whether its some kind of fusion.

The point is that its here now and it works.

Without spending any money trying to work out whether it will work and how much it will cost.

We have thrown trillions of dollars at renewable energy, to find that it doesnt work, not without some kind of storage we don’t have, or demand management that will completely change the way we live our lives and destroy any chance of wealth creation.

Let’s stick with tried and tested eh?

Disputin
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 26, 2023 3:54 am

…some kind of fusion.

Typo – fission, not fusion.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Bryan A
January 26, 2023 4:18 am

Eventually is far enough in the distant future not to remotely be a concern today.

You could have said the same thing when oil was first discovered and used as an energy source by humanity, and it would have been just as meaningful then.

Drake
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
January 27, 2023 11:42 am

AND with sufficient “energy”, every form of “fossil” fuel can be synthesized FOREVER into the future so, no, we don’t need to abandon the very functional FF powered civilization. We just need a plentiful “energy” supply until the end of human existence on earth, which fission reactors can easily supply until fusion generation can be developed 10 years from NOW. NOW being forever today, which is every day in the future.

A friend, who lived on an intersection where in the snow in the winter “visitors” to our mountain community not prepared for the “climate”, would get stuck and come knocking on his door for help. He put up a sign at his driveway, “FREE TOWING SERVICE TOMORROW”. And he meant it, since tomorrow was always a day away.

You know, Fusion will solve all our energy needs, tomorrow.

Scissor
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 25, 2023 2:38 pm

I have to replace mine about every 400 miles.

Janice Moore
Reply to  Scissor
January 25, 2023 3:59 pm

Cute.😏

stinkerp
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 25, 2023 2:47 pm

Someday we probably do. I don’t think any petroleum geologist believes we have an endless supply. At our current consumption we have about 50 years of oil reserves. Probably we’ll find more, but it doesn’t seem to be unlimited.

We can electrify a lot of things and power with hydro and nuclear and supplement a little with wind and solar, but cars and planes and heavy machinery? Not so much. We’ll need a dense energy storage medium for transportation eventually. Current battery tech won’t get us there. Generate our own hydrocarbons? Maybe. Hydrogen? I dunno. Bright minds are working on alternatives. It’s a real problem looming in the future. Just not right now.

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Janice Moore
Reply to  stinkerp
January 25, 2023 3:57 pm

Yes, indeed. The POINT is: we do not need to replace fossil fuels NOW. At all. 🙂

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Janice Moore
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 25, 2023 4:07 pm

I am, btw, all FOR ADDING nuclear power. Just no need to replace fossil fuel at this time.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 25, 2023 11:28 pm

YOU in the USA may not. WE in Europe would love to carry on using fossil fuels…if we had any. Ditto Japan.

Disputin
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 26, 2023 4:00 am

“…if we had any.”

But we have. I forget who pointed out that with living on an island on large stocks of coal it took a strange sort of genius to contrive a shortage of fish and coal, but the government managed it!

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AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Disputin
January 26, 2023 4:46 am

Not to mention plenty of shale oil deposits not being developed due to mind-numbingly stupid government policies.

DavsS
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
January 26, 2023 5:27 am

Our descendants will be grateful that we left it for them to benefit from – and incredulous why we did so.

Drake
Reply to  DavsS
January 27, 2023 11:45 am

If they are educated by government schools, they will have no clue that would make them incredulous, and wouldn’t be able to spell incredulous without their computer’s assistance.

May Contain Traces of Seafood
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 26, 2023 3:40 pm

You don’t have any fossil fuels?

Have you considered Fracking?

Leo Smith
Reply to  stinkerp
January 25, 2023 11:27 pm

Actually right now. Europe is desperately hydrocarbon poor.

Richard Greene
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 26, 2023 1:13 am

Russia wanted to sell as much natural gas to the EU nations as possible, so Gazprom income taxes could help fund the military. It was EU nations that arbitrarily decided to stop buying Russian gas. And they placed strict economic sanctions on Russia.

Putin responded by limiting Gazprom gas exports in the resulting trade war.

Private companies in all the EU nations benefitted from importing Russian gas, which is less expensive than imported LNG and cheaper than increasing EU gas production. But politicians got in the way.

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Disputin
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 26, 2023 4:02 am

“…politicians got in the way.”

They always do.

Graham
Reply to  Disputin
January 26, 2023 12:37 pm

Yes you are right there.
Most of the worlds major problems have been caused by elected politicians .
Jump up and down but this whole global warming /climate change debacle ,was started by the UN ( unelected politicians ).
Then most other politicians around the world have jumped on the SUSTAINABLE wagon and have caused untold damage to their countries .
I was brought up on a farm without electricity so I know how hard my mother and farther had to work to keep the wood fires going to heat the house and cook our meals and boil the water in the copper to wash our clothes .
No refrigerator or washing machine ,our milk came from a cow which had to be rounded up every morning and milked by hand .
The milk was put in a large bowl so that the cream rose to the top .It was skimmed off and we made butter by hand .
A large garden was grown and a sheep was killed for meat but in the summer it was shared with neibours because there was no refrigeration .
How many of the present generation would or could live without electricity ?

Leo Smith
Reply to  Janice Moore
January 25, 2023 11:19 pm

Unfortunately, dear, we [DO].
But not because of ‘climate change’…

But because the EROEI of energy based on them is falling faster than a shot duck.

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Janice Moore
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 26, 2023 10:11 am

Mr. Smith.

1. The EROEI for fossil fuels, per se, is largely unchanged.

2. Please, don’t call me “dear.” I don’t even know you….

ThinkingScientist
January 25, 2023 2:18 pm

Impressive essay Zion, honest and compelling.

And if you are working with Michael Shellenberger, that’s a real positive too. Sane and intelligent. I don’t agree with everything he proposes, but he is someone you can debate with. And dialog and truth are everything.

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  ThinkingScientist
January 25, 2023 3:54 pm

I hate truth.

I like facts.

Mike used to be about truth
Now he is about fact.

Huge gulf

Zion not there yet, she’s still a recovering addict.

Edward Katz
January 25, 2023 2:19 pm

Stories like this remind us that just as we’re not running out of fossil fuels, we’re not running out of these climate kooks, goofballs and weirdos either.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Edward Katz
January 25, 2023 11:30 pm

We are running out of economically viable fossil fuels as anyone with a fuel bill can tell you.
As energy prices rise, cost of wealth creation rises too. People will; keep on getting poorer until we transition to something cheaper.
Windmills ain’t it.

cilo
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 26, 2023 3:56 am

running out of economically viable fossil fuels as anyone with a fuel bill can tell

You don’t really think the commercial price of household fuel is in any way related to the production price of petroleum products, do you? Next you are going to tell me exchange rate is determined by supply and demand, and diamonds are terribly scarce…
How is it that the Free Market guys never question the disconnect between their pet theory, and the actual price of things. (Hint: your dogma crumbles in the face of monopolist market manipulation)

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 26, 2023 4:50 am

Energy prices are rising because of stupid government policies which are doing everything possible to strangle oil and gas development.

It has nothing to do with a “shortage” of “economically viable” fossil fuels.

Robertvd
Reply to  Edward Katz
January 26, 2023 6:56 am

Because Big Government is behind it. Just try to close a bridge in London for any other reason.
Hasn’t Big Government been behind the indoctrination of our children in their ‘education’ system into Climate Jugend and Green Shirts?
But remember Big Government are not those you vote for. Those are puppets just like the media.

ResourceGuy
January 25, 2023 2:22 pm

Thanks for the insights.

Now will NPR, NYT, LAT, and WaPo cover this?

ThinkingScientist
Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 25, 2023 2:30 pm

Silently?

R.Morton
Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 25, 2023 2:40 pm

Not a chance….

AndyHce
Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 25, 2023 5:25 pm

Perhaps, with much dirt.

TEWS_Pilot
January 25, 2023 2:39 pm

Are they really so tone deaf as to believe that causing disruptions in people’s lives will get those people to sympathize with them? The normal human emotion is RAGE and a desire to beat the living daylights out of them.

ResourceGuy
January 25, 2023 2:40 pm

One follow-up question: Are the young offered pay and perks for their blind service? That is important to compare with other paid protest groups.

Ben Vorlich
Reply to  ResourceGuy
January 25, 2023 2:55 pm

Probably not, it’s usual to give all your worldly possessions to the cult leader. For some reason having received to call to lead a cult you also need large amounts of money.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
January 25, 2023 6:18 pm

A perk can include international flights and beach resort stays instead of “possessions”.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
January 27, 2023 7:46 am

Well he does live in Kennington,London, where a typical terraced property costs c.£1.1m

It doesnot add up
January 25, 2023 2:47 pm

Interesting insights. I wonder what you would have made of the BBC had you joined it.

Ben Vorlich
January 25, 2023 2:51 pm

Perhaps she should volunteer for a second interview with Andrew Neil on his Channel 4 programme. I remember watching her on that interview, it was obvious she couldn’t or didn’t want to answer Neil’s questions and he didn’t really push her either
She certainly won’t get an interview on BBC or ITV.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
January 25, 2023 4:43 pm

Channel 4 is heavily biased too, they brought in the odious moonbat to talk over David Bellamy and make sure none of his points got a fair hearing:

Rud Istvan
January 25, 2023 2:52 pm

I am reminded of Mackey’s ‘Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds’:
“Men go mad in crowds, but recover their senses slowly one by one.”
Slowly, one.

Mark Kaiser
Reply to  Rud Istvan
January 25, 2023 6:03 pm

Rud, similar to your point: I read somewhere long ago, that if you are in a crowd and need help, don’t yell out to the crowd for help. They will not help. Pick one person in the crowd and ask that person for help. You are more likely to get it.

I think the idea was that as part of a crowd, people act as a mob or ignore you, thinking someone else will help. Whereas one person will more likely act with their conscience.

Individual:personal vs. Group:impersonal

Richard Greene
January 25, 2023 3:30 pm

Zion is still a green dreamer. She obviously thinks there is a climate emergency. She may reject the XR methods that turn off people.

But the core problem remains with her false beliefs: There is no climate crisis, and the electric grids are not broken, so they don’t need to be fixed, even with nuclear power.

Windmills and solar panels won’t replace hydrocarbon fuels. But neither will nuclear power plants because of the high cost and strong resistance by almost all leftists. Shellenberger is a rare exception. So Zion is still a green nutter, although not a wild nutter like XR folks, or a foolish nutter, in love with unreliables. But she is still a green nutter.

For those confused on whether Zion was a girl or boy — I was not sure — here is some of her history:

Zion Lights is a freelance journalist with green fingers in many pies. She is a full-time mother and a keen Urban Farmer, growing her own food using permaculture and organic growing methods, and always looking to increase how much her family composts and recycles. She lives in the West Country with her amazing vegan family- a wonderful husband, a beautiful baby girl, and an assortment of rescued animals that she couldn’t resist taking home. Zion’s website can be found at ZionLights.co.uk. Zion also writes for The Huffington Post, and you can follow her on Twitter @ziontree.

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I say if an XR nutter glues themselves to something, just leave then there forever.

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 25, 2023 3:57 pm

Well, if they go to the trouble of gluing themselves down we should humor them where possible

I’m thinking of the opening in Deadpool with the guy smushed to the overhead sign.

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iflyjetzzz
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 25, 2023 4:04 pm

I had the same thoughts; she’s still a green nutter, just not as radical as she once was. And still brainwashed by the false belief that temperatures on earth are rising rapidly.

Richard Greene
Reply to  iflyjetzzz
January 26, 2023 1:24 am

On the other hand, it is very unusual for a leftist to change their beliefs, EXCEPT when moving further left.

Note: With that bizarre name of Zion, all those tattoos and short hair and eyeglasses, I really was not sure if Zion was a girl, boy or transgender. It’s not always easy to tell these days. I was actually surprised she was married and had a child.

She seems to believe in the coming climate emergency, but also seems involved herself, with urban farming, composting and a vegan diet. So I see her as yet another green dreamer useful idiot.

The leaders of the green religion are in it for political power — they could not care less about reducing their carbon footprint.

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AGW is Not Science
Reply to  iflyjetzzz
January 26, 2023 7:12 am

And that “vegan” = “healthy.”

Drake
Reply to  AGW is Not Science
January 27, 2023 11:54 am

What vegan food did her daughter get? If she is truly “green” then she breast fed her daughter a NON vegan food, MILK.

If she didn’t feed that child in a non-vegan way as a baby, that child would probably not be alive today, and either way can probably look forward to lower brain development then “normal”.

May Contain Traces of Seafood
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 26, 2023 3:50 pm

a freelance journalist with green fingers in many pies. She is a full-time mother

Full time huh? As in, ‘I look after my children as my only job’?

I am not mocking full time parents. I – eventually – took stock of all the things my parents did for me when I was still under their care and then honestly wonder when they did their ‘own thing’.

What I am suggesting is that if you have time to have fingers in many pies you might instead ‘share parenting with your journalism’.

Claiming you are a ‘full time mother’ in this context is just another way of playing with words to obtain the objective you seek, which in this case is to not only suggest that she clearly cares for the future, but also set up for playing the Patriarchy Card later.

Sorry, Zion, but if you have time to do side jobs you are, by definition, NOT a full time mother.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 27, 2023 7:51 am

Well if she’s working with Michael Shellenberger I’d say she is heading in the right direction

kenji
January 25, 2023 4:11 pm

I’m thinking of changing my name to ‘Zion’ and getting a sleeve of organic tattoos. Perhaps then … I’ll see DIRTY OIL for what they really are … ENEMIES of the EARTH.

Gawwwwd.

Gary Pearse
January 25, 2023 4:21 pm

Zion Lights is an extraordinary young person to have “changed her mind” in today’s socio-political ‘climate’. She has gone through the West’s worst of the 4-generation de-education brainwashing process.

She recognized the culty XR for what it is and noted the absence of solutions they offered. She recognized the absence of empathy for poor working class people of Canning Town being blocked from taking the subway to work by XR. She comforted young activists in the group who were worried about not making it to 30yrs old, saying this isn’t true.

She recognized that it would be a disaster to deny people access to cheap reliable fossil fuel energy when renewables aren’t adequate to replace them them. She felt if CO2 is a problem, nuclear should be promoted. She recognized as totally wrong that climate change would kill off 6 Billion people.

Bravo Zion Lights!

It’s hard to avoid the growing suspicion that where you stand in the spectrum of climate/ideology/ecology/ and all the socio-economic spawn of it, is a grand IQ test. We have, very objectively speaking, the dumbest heads of state the West has ever known. Science’s once high standards for entry to a course of study has been watered down and the bright ones have been silenced and intimidated by ‘asterisked PhDs’ about whom Steve McIntyre famously observed:

“In my opinion, most climate scientists on the Team would have been high school teachers in an earlier generation – if they were lucky. Many/most of them have degrees from minor universities. It’s much easier to picture people like Briffa or Jones as high school teachers than as Oxford dons of a generation ago….”

Rich Davis
Reply to  Gary Pearse
January 25, 2023 5:11 pm

Thank you Gary for expressing my thoughts better than I will.

Why attack this young woman who is courageous enough to stand apart from the in-crowd and has the integrity to admit error? Because you don’t agree with her every opinion?

Some of you don’t think she’s pretty enough? How did she earn that level of disrespect? Do you wonder why girls want to pretend to be boys and vice versa when perfect strangers think nothing about calling their sexuality into question without any provocation? What the hell is happening to our humanity?

Richard Greene
Reply to  Rich Davis
January 26, 2023 1:37 am

This young woman is a green dreamer who wants to spend a lot of YOUR money to redesign electricity production, to prevent an imaginary climate emergency. She is our enemy.

Maybe she is not a crazy green dreamer anymore, as she used to be. BUT SHE USED TO BE A CRAZY GREEN DREAMER and why should we forgive her for the damage her XR group has done. She dropped out of XR. That’s nice. But we should not forgive her for the damage she participated in.

I questioned whether Zion was a girl or boy because I couldn’t tell with her odd name and androgynous appearance. I would never comment on a persons attractiveness — they have little input to that, other than combing their hair, and I’d prefer no tattoos — only their character matters to me.

I do not like the character of leftist Climate Howlers, especially those who had been involved with XR. XR members are often criminals. That makes Zion an ex-criminal, in my book.

Daily list of the best climate science and energy articles I’ve read:

Honest Climate Science and Energy

Tony_G
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 26, 2023 9:52 am

People don’t change ideals and deeply held convictions instantly. She’s made a step in the right direction. We should support that, unless we want to drive people away from the skeptic position. Why be like the alarmists and attack anyone who differs even slightly?

Welcome her change of mind – it may help her be more open to hearing more.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Richard Greene
January 28, 2023 7:11 am

Richard,
If we shouldn’t forgive a person who admits an error, and he needs to be forever treated as an enemy, how do you imagine the end game working out in favor of climate realists? Billions of dead enemies? There is no redemption and no possibility of reconciliation?

How is there any logical consistency to rejecting someone as an ally because they disagree on certain aspects of climate, but not similarly requiring perfect agreement on all other matters before accepting someone as an ally?

DonM
Reply to  Gary Pearse
January 25, 2023 5:57 pm

Nice post. Always increasing respect for you (and Rich Davis).

But I’m too jaded to see it.

I think she knew all along what shit it was … she wasn’t brainwashed. She was just doing something for the sake of doing it, and damn the logic. She had to stand up for something and she didn’t care if she was right or wrong.

At least now she will try to put a little logic behind her actions.

Rich Davis
Reply to  DonM
January 28, 2023 7:39 am

Don,
To be frank, I had similar suspicions to that jaded view. While I give ZL the benefit of the doubt, it did cross my mind that she might just be cultivating a brand image, differentiating herself from the crowd and seeking out an underserved customer base.

The field of climate activism is crowded. If a person wanted to seek fame riding a wave of popular delusion, it would pay to be a bit different. Not every activist cares about the cause. Some are purely interested in self-promotion.

To be even more unpopularly frank, these are thoughts I often have about Donald Trump, another person who is imperfect but is worthy of being considered an ally.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Gary Pearse
January 25, 2023 11:36 pm

Believe it or not I was actually quite taken with socialism as a young man, until I realised that while they identified what clearly could be seen as problems, none of the proposed solutions actually worked, and most involved mass destruction of some kind.
Today, even the problems are not real. Trans, LBGT, Black lives, Climate change – when you dig deep none of it has mass support from the peepul who are supposed to be its ‘victims’.

garboard
Reply to  Gary Pearse
January 26, 2023 4:18 am

freeman dyson advised his graduate students not to go into climate science because there was no future in it for honest science

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Gary Pearse
January 26, 2023 7:17 am

I’d wholeheartedly agree with McIntyre, aside from the importance of a degree being from a “minor” vs. “major” university. Given the leftist suffocation of anything resembling a REAL “education,” it doesn’t make much difference.

Bob
January 25, 2023 6:29 pm

Yes it’s true Zion doesn’t think like the majority of us here at WUWT. That is not the point, the point is that we have an intelligent thinking individual who can communicate. I see nothing but opportunities here. We need to gently expose her to the right ideas. Time spent coaxing her into thinking more like us is much more productive than wasting our time pointing out how much she differs with us. She has already done the hard part, leaving a group she used to believe in.

Retiredinky
Reply to  Bob
January 25, 2023 8:28 pm

The article stated several times that she sought answers and solutions. Right now she favors nuclear. She is also in favor of fossil fuels for the near term. Give her time – this is a big topic and there are many, many voices, graphs, presentations etc. It takes time to work your way through them.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Retiredinky
January 25, 2023 11:38 pm

The point at which one transitions from a socialist to a conservative is the point at which one ceases to agonise over the problems and starts to look for real world solutions. Most academics and leftist do not engage in that.

Redge
Reply to  Bob
January 25, 2023 10:26 pm

She likes data

Give her data

Then she’ll see the Lights

ATheoK
January 25, 2023 7:18 pm

Roger, 56, an organic-farmer-turned-radical, is XR’s most dominant leader. He turned to activism after his farm business in Wales collapsed—a failure he blamed on extreme weather.

Members called him a hero, and fell for his constant self-comparisons to MLK and Gandhi. He referred to himself as a prophet, and “proved” he was a martyr through regular arrests and stints in jail.”

Signs that Roger Hallam is a narcissist and an egomaniac, with a strong tendencies towards psychopathic tendencies.

Hallam cares not how many lives, young and old, he ruins.

“Roger’s proposal (denied) to spend a small fortune from XR’s donations to fund a trip to the United States—in a private jet, no less—to launch the organization there.”

Elites, far and wide, rarely take common forms of public transportation.
Riders would take disruption to their commutes more violently than England’s general response.

Then there are the Federal laws protecting those forms of transportation. Attempts to disrupt public transport commerce is punishable by many years in serious prisons, not just a night at an urban drunk tank.
Nor are the feds likely to seriously search for commuters who would manhandle protestors disrupting commutes.

Nor does it appear that Roger has the kind of influence that can purchase necessary police and politicians.

XR requests that people involve their children, martyr themselves, fill the jails with their membership are not actions that Ghandi or MLK support at all.

That alone should have frightened you and anyone else with a lick of sense into running away.

Spokeswoman who quit Extinction Rebellion now works for Michael Shellenberger to fight for the NUCLEAR industry”

An excellent choice to support and of your employer.
Good luck in your future endeavors!

186no
Reply to  ATheoK
January 26, 2023 1:34 am

?Any possible connection with Jim Jones and Guyana?

John Oliver
January 25, 2023 7:50 pm

We definitely should take any kind of turn about by the CAGW crowd ,be happy for them welcome them, and never sink to the level of nastyness that so many of them do to us. I get frustrated too sometimes and say-things.

Richard Greene
Reply to  John Oliver
January 26, 2023 1:45 am

She is still in the CAGW crowd — the tiny Shellenberger nuclear division.
Due to cost and objections by other leftists, nuclear power is going nowhere.
Do you really think the roadblocks to nuclear power will prevent Zion from moving to back the wind and solar division (hopefully without the XR violence)?

She is still a Climate Howler, just temporarily less radical than before. If one is a climate emergency believer, as she is, one can not sit back for years watching the push for more nuclear power plants go nowhere.

Peta of Newark
January 25, 2023 8:01 pm

Interesting….
At which point does The Consensus on Climate Change become recognised as a cult

Redge
Reply to  Peta of Newark
January 25, 2023 10:27 pm

Depends on which side of the fence you’re sitting

Many of us think it’s already a religious cult

Leo Smith
Reply to  Redge
January 25, 2023 11:40 pm

Exactly, it is now a metaphysical proposition upheld not by data, but by faith.

kalsel3294
January 25, 2023 9:47 pm

We should be looking at ways to replace the burning of fossil fuels for energy with a readily alternative energy source such as nuclear, not to reduce emissions, but to preserve and prolong the availability of the resource as feedstock for the chemical industry, making this our highest priority.

Leo Smith
Reply to  kalsel3294
January 25, 2023 11:43 pm

TBH kalsel3294, we don’t actually need it as a feedstock either. It is just convenient. Sme of us are old enough to remeber plastics made of wood, paper, creosote and the like. Bakelite anyone? The precursor to fiberglass.

The key is cheap energy. With cheap energy we can synthesise almost any hydro carbon we want. At prices less than sucking it out of the ground.

We only have one source of cheap reliable energy – nuclear power of one sort or another.

Peter C.
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 30, 2023 12:46 pm

I was checking out our current electrical stock at work and discovered some Bakelite switches…still being made and used! I was surprised.

Peter C.
Reply to  Peter C.
January 30, 2023 12:49 pm

heheh current get it?sorry

Leo Smith
January 25, 2023 11:17 pm

And where did a failed organic farmer get the miney from?

We await with baited breath…

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 26, 2023 7:26 am

S/b “money,” but I figured that out from the context.

But you raise an important point. Too many “billionaires with messiah complexes” funding these useful idiots to push their idiotic leftist agenda.

Disputin
Reply to  Leo Smith
January 26, 2023 11:43 am

…with baited breath…”

Er, bated?

Last edited 12 days ago by Disputin
michel
January 25, 2023 11:58 pm

“But over time, I realized there was something wrong, and that the guy in charge of XR, Roger Hallam, was the root of it.”

No, she still does not realize what is wrong. Its not Hallam at all. Hallam is just a symptom. The thing that is wrong is the claim that there is a climate crisis/emergency or whatever.

The critical first move in these moral panics is to generate the false belief that there is a crisis. Its from this that all the rest follows. Hallam is just the kind of leader that is bound to result from the approach that we see every day on the front page of the Guardian and every other day on the BBC, who are busily promoting the view that there is a crisis.

The next step is to demand action. The action will mostly be, and is in this case, either impossible, ineffective or actually counter productive in addressing the supposed crisis. Frequently if implemented it will actually increase the supposed problem not reduce it.

But this is, whether deliberate or not, actually an advantage for the movement. Because if you are in the leadership of one of these things, the last thing you want is to become associated with the failure of programs. Or with the nitty gritty of political action to get compromises enacted and implemented. And failure is the inevitable result of any program whose essence is to address a wholly imaginary problem.

It wasn’t an accidental defect of the program that she had no positive proposals to replace gas. It was an essential feature. You start demanding the impossible, stopping oil now. This is politically impossible, so its a secure and permanent basis to use as an organizing issue.

She needs to wake up, not to the nature of Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion, but to the nature of the whole climate movement, and she needs to focus on the big underlying falsehood on which its based, that of the Climate Emergency.

Richard Greene
Reply to  michel
January 26, 2023 1:46 am

Excellent comment
You understand leftism

186no
Reply to  michel
January 26, 2023 1:49 am

I wholeheartedly agree; I do not know this person and on the face of it she appears to have had some kind of (partial) Damascean conversion. However her use of the phrase “carbon heavy” to denominate Hallam’s acolytes so called guilt complex, for me, is a complete giveaway. When will she admit CO2 is essential to all life on east?

Hallam is the reincarnation Jim Jones, David Koresh and Charles Manson – he “takes in” damaged people, damages them further, and his precepts have nothing to do with sustainability, “green” ( whatever that means ), education or indeed anything else of value imho.

The disclosure about private jets is another nail in his eco coffin along with other disclosures of ER acolytes boasting about diesel powered road trips on social media; all about him, ego centric and very cynical – and he clearly does not give a toss about his duplicity being so evident.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  michel
January 26, 2023 8:48 am

One baby step. Hopefully the “awakening” will continue.

Disputin
Reply to  michel
January 26, 2023 11:46 am

A journey of a thousand miles starts with one step.

Confucius?

michel
January 26, 2023 1:11 am

By the way, if you wondered why she could not add up enough to see that there is no climate crisis, read this:

https://thirdspacelearning.com/blog/what-is-part-whole-model/

No wonder they are leaving school illterate and innumerate.

cilo
January 26, 2023 3:42 am

It is said that none be so righteous as the reformed sinner. This is an excellent example.
That said, warlords love it when an enemy agent turns against his own. Oh what a trove of information about the enemy! They get wined and dined and provided with girls (or boys). Afterwards they get executed…once a traitor, always a traitor.

Richard M
January 26, 2023 6:23 am

I think it would be a lot easier to help people like Zion if they were presented with the reasons why climate science is completely wrong and the real causes of climate change. Problem is there are seemingly dozens of different views. Maybe all of them need to be put forth to show there are alternatives. In any event, the first thing that needs to be done is to put some doubt in the minds of the media.

Why is climate science wrong? The answer is actually quite simple. Incorrect usage of radiation models. They assume these models are valid for energy flow through the atmosphere. They aren’t.

Fraizer
January 26, 2023 9:44 am

Once upon a time nuclear was touted as being able to supply electricity too cheap to meter.

This was disingenuously equated with free. That was never the intent but only that variable costs associated with generation and distribution would allow a flat fee to be charged for virtually unlimited energy. Obviously, the fee would be tiered, an aluminum smelter would not pay the same fee as a residence, but the idea was that energy would be cheap and plentiful.

I guess that was before government got involved to make things “better”; and the envirowackos started practicing lawfare to make nuclear uneconomic.

And to be sure, the LWR designs that work fine aboard ship have got scale up problems and are not inherently safe (i.e., require active protections). Not the best design to hang society’s hat on.

But think what could have been by now had the technology not been demonized. Would we be building Gen IV? Gen V? Gen VI reactors?

Sooner or later society will have to get off its duff and do this. Energy is the lifeblood of everything. Given enough of it at a cheap enough price and virtually anything can be synthesized. Be it plastics, construction materials, or liquid fuels.

At some point, economics will require that naturally derived hydrocarbon fuels be replaced. Not in my lifetime or probably even my grandkids’ lifetime, so there is plenty of time to figure things out.

old cocky
Reply to  Fraizer
January 26, 2023 11:54 am

variable costs associated with generation and distribution would allow a flat fee to be charged for virtually unlimited energy.

Something similar has happened with telephony. Most mobile phone plans now include unlimited local calls for a flat monthly or annual fee.
Basically, with current switching technology and IP telephony, it costs the telcos more to account for the call connections and times than it would be worth. They seem to make more off mobile data now, which is a comparatively new product.

Graham
Reply to  Fraizer
January 26, 2023 1:03 pm

Well thought out Frazier.
I agree with all you have written but as I see the problem is that the eco loons that have tended to get into power believe THAT THE WORLD DOES NOT NEED AFFORDABLE ENERGY .
Their theory is to keep us all poor except them ( those in charge )
We have to hope that the anti nuclear movement becomes irrelevant even if that means some pain because of energy scarcity in many countries .

May Contain Traces of Seafood
January 26, 2023 4:36 pm

Credit to her.

Admitting you were wrong, or that your core world view has now changed, actually takes a lot of courage.

Zion will – if she hasn’t been already – get utterly canceled by people she once considered her friends. Let’s be honest with each other, no one hates quiet as hard as a Left against a ‘traitor’. Zion will probably end up being ‘removed’ from the XR history books and we will start to see articles formally stating that she was never actually that important within the organisation and that her interviews were not approved.

She will be attacked.

Why? Cause Lefts cannot admit they were wrong.

This – I believe – is due to their core method of analysing problems. A Right tends to have an open world view but an isolated objective. They want to save their friends and family and they are open to all ideas as to the best way to do so. If they can also save strangers? Bonus, but they will not give up on their family just to ‘help’ abstract people they don’t know.

The Right ‘Conservatives’ actually have a very flexible world view and can modify and evolve their opinions.

The Left are flipped. They have a narrow world view but a massive objective. They want to change the world and believe they – and only they – have all the answers. Hence they should be in power. Or if not them personally in power, that nice leader type person they met at a conference can be in power and they will follow them.

The problem here is that once you establish that ‘you know best’ and that you and your collective have all the answers you begin to see matters as ‘objectively’ right or wrong. And since you already know what the answers are and are willing to dedicate your life to the cause, then admitting an error throws EVERYTHING into question.

A conservative who flips on an opinion “You know, actually I do like pineapple on pizza!” might feel a bit embarrassed but will move on. They have audited and acted on improvements.

A Left will be forced to reassess everything. They had ‘all the answers’, so if one of those answers were wrong… then… what else were they wrong about? It forces them to question more than just their next pizza order and many of them find it simpler to reject the ‘new answer’ and just double down on the fact that they and their friends have ‘all the answers’.

So, credit to Zion for having the courage to say she made errors and has now changed her world view.

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