Climate Bedwetter Peter Kalmus Ejected from AGU

2 climate activists got kicked out of the world’s biggest Earth-science conference for protesting, and one says the association is ‘silencing scientists’

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-climate-activists-got-kicked-out-of-the-world-s-biggest-earth-science-conference-for-protesting-and-one-says-the-association-is-silencing-scientists/ar-AA15n87Z?li=BBnbcA1

We’ve reported on the very entertaining Peter Kalmus in the past.

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Here’s the beginning of the report from MSN

  • Two climate scientists were kicked out of a major science conference in Chicago on Thursday.
  • Peter Kalmus and Rose Abramoff went onstage to urge other researchers to take climate action.
  • They told Insider the American Geophysical Union told them they’d be arrested if they returned.

CHICAGO, Illinois — Two climate scientists say they were kicked out of the world’s biggest meeting of the Earth and space sciences on Thursday.

NASA climate scientist Peter Kalmus and ecologist Rose Abramoff each told Insider they acted on their own behalf when they climbed onstage during a plenary event at the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union, an association of 60,000 advocates and professionals in the Earth and sp

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-climate-activists-got-kicked-out-of-the-world-s-biggest-earth-science-conference-for-protesting-and-one-says-the-association-is-silencing-scientists/ar-AA15n87Z?li=BBnbcA1

Here’s Kalmus’s tweet about his stunt with Abramoff


#AGU22 is the huge Earth science meeting, with 25,000 scientists. Talks and posters detail the breaking down of our Earth in real time. They are terrifying. So @ultracricket and I stepped outside extremely strong norms and urged scientists to take a stand.
https://t.co/qkjQVq8SGh

It has to be said. People are drowning in their basement apartments. People are burning in megafires. People are dying in extreme humid heat. The projections for coming years are horrifying. We’re heading into a nightmare.

The AGU took our badges and kicked us out of the meeting

Originally tweeted by Peter Kalmus (@ClimateHuman) on December 16, 2022.


Of course the duo portrayed themselves as victims.

“Please, please, please find a way to take action,” Abramoff called out, as a woman standing below them grabbed the banner from her, according to video footage from the event.

AGU staff escorted the pair offstage as audience members applauded and cheered.

Kalmus and Abramoff said two staff members then took their conference badges from them and told them to leave.

Abramoff said she received a phone call later, in which AGU staff informed her that if she or Kalmus returned to the fall meeting, they would be arrested, and that AGU was contacting their employers to complain.

“I interpreted that as basically a threat — which I don’t know if it was a hollow threat or not — to try and get us fired,” Abramoff told Insider.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-climate-activists-got-kicked-out-of-the-world-s-biggest-earth-science-conference-for-protesting-and-one-says-the-association-is-silencing-scientists/ar-AA15n87Z?li=BBnbcA1https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-climate-activists-got-kicked-out-of-the-world-s-biggest-earth-science-conference-for-protesting-and-one-says-the-association-is-silencing-scientists/ar-AA15n87Z?li=BBnbcA1

You can read the full article about the whiny duo here.

Addendum.

Say this in your best “How dare you” voice.



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Mr David Guy-Johnson
December 18, 2022 2:10 am

Let’s see, they deliberately disrupted an Important conference. . They did this knowing full well they’d get thrown out. They tried to make it all about them, then they cry about being thrown out. Then they bleat about being told not to do it again. Pathetic.

Last edited 1 month ago by Mr David Guy-Johnson
ThinkingScientist
Reply to  Mr David Guy-Johnson
December 18, 2022 2:23 am

If they play their cards right they could get a lot of money for a 6 part docu-drama on Netflix.

It seems the only prerequisites are to be whingy whiners, make up stories and have “your own” version of the facts.

Seems to work for H & Smegs anyway

Last edited 1 month ago by ThinkingScientist
Elliot W
Reply to  ThinkingScientist
December 18, 2022 10:43 am

Apologies. Saw this after I posted. Great minds think alike?

Duker
Reply to  ThinkingScientist
December 18, 2022 11:07 am

Documentaries have had their own versions of the facts and left out major information for a long time .
Thats why they are referred to as ‘telling stories’….mostly with a human interest theme. hence the drowning burning blah blah lines from the activists

Its not only storms that have names , but the wildlife too, cant be long before trees are given human attributes as well.

pflashgordon
Reply to  Duker
December 19, 2022 7:30 am

Arctic scientists have been personifying ICE for some time already. How can these mean humans be attacking poor, defenseless ICE?

Elliot W
Reply to  Mr David Guy-Johnson
December 18, 2022 10:42 am

Sounds like they are using the Meghan-and-Harry playbook. Disrupt everything, then play the victim, with very bad acting.

Paul Johnson
Reply to  Mr David Guy-Johnson
December 18, 2022 12:04 pm

They are the nightmare they warn us about; a self-destructive, self-fulfilling prophesy.

antigtiff
Reply to  Mr David Guy-Johnson
December 18, 2022 3:48 pm

It was a pathetic protest….this Peter guy should have glued himself to the stage…that’s a protest.

Streetcred
Reply to  antigtiff
December 18, 2022 10:11 pm

Should have glued his lips to the stage floor !

Alastair Brickell
December 18, 2022 2:57 am

Sorry, a bit off topic but:

Am I the only one who gets the following message when trying to click on the links (eg. the crying scientist one):

“Sorry, you are not allowed to edit this item.”

I also can not access the video clip…I get the following error message:

“No video with supported format and MIME type found”

This is a new problem for me with WUWT and WordPress.

It started happening about a day ago…in the past I had no problems with WUWT using Firefox.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
December 18, 2022 6:06 am

same result with the crying scientist link

the video is working though- I heard him say “The Earth is dying”- that was enough for me

Writing Observer
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
December 18, 2022 3:19 pm

No problem with either one here – Firefox too, latest update.

Ed Zuiderwijk
December 18, 2022 3:00 am

Links do not work on my iPad in the UK. ‘Sorry you are not allowed to edit this item’.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Ed Zuiderwijk
December 18, 2022 5:53 am

Same on my iPad in Canada, probably anywhere…

BobM
Reply to  Charles Rotter
December 18, 2022 10:41 am

How about the video?

Alastair Brickell
Reply to  BobM
December 18, 2022 6:17 pm

Links work, thanks but still no video.

Jackdaw
December 18, 2022 3:03 am

Whacko’s like this do not help their cause, and their version of the truth is easy to disprove.
It staggers me how a supposedly science based institution like NASA could even employ extremists, do they not have a vetting process? Or is climate alarmism a prerequisite for getting a job there, and NASA is not really interested in science? 🤔

SMC
Reply to  Jackdaw
December 18, 2022 4:36 am

It’s wrong to think like that. These people got publicity and a sympathetic article from a major news (propaganda) organization, MSN. Whacko’s they may be, their arguments may not be grounded in reality but, they got their message out to a receptive audience.

Tony_G
Reply to  SMC
December 18, 2022 2:20 pm

they got their message out to a receptive audience.

As I said elsewhere, look at the replies to the tweet.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  SMC
December 18, 2022 8:23 pm

… but, they got their message out to a receptive audience.

Certainly not the ones cheering and applauding as they were escorted off the stage!

Bill Powers
Reply to  Jackdaw
December 18, 2022 5:17 am

NASA is a Government Bureaucracy. It might have been started, like all GovMint agencies, with the best of intentions but it is now a fully grown adult bureaucracy, the definition of which is a black hole that absorbs other people’s money.

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Bill Powers
December 18, 2022 7:33 am

‘…bureaucracy, the definition of which is a black hole that absorbs other people’s money in order to extend government’s power over its citizens.’

Nik
Reply to  Bill Powers
December 18, 2022 9:38 am

NASA was once The A Team, but the A Team left soon after the return of Apollo 17 from the Moon, to be replaced by the junior varsity during the Shuttle era, followed by the B-Squad.

Elliot W
Reply to  Jackdaw
December 18, 2022 10:51 am

Here in Canada in govt-type jobs, people who are mentally ill can’t be fired as it’s against their “human rights”. At best they can be persuaded to take a pension for life and sent home, but if they won’t take it, the employer is stuck. If you research Kalmus, he is obviously very disturbed. (Feel sorry for his kids.) So I suspect NASA is stuck with him.

Hivemind
Reply to  Jackdaw
December 18, 2022 2:58 pm

“is climate alarmism a prerequisite for getting a job there, and NASA is not really interested in science?”

Yes.

sskinner
December 18, 2022 3:06 am

Emotionally incontinent and hysterically delusional.

sskinner
Reply to  sskinner
December 18, 2022 3:31 am

“A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true” – Aristotle

“I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few” – A. H.

“The problem isn’t that Johnny can’t read. The problem isn’t even that Johnny can’t think. The problem is that Johnny doesn’t know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling” – T. Sowell

BigCarbonPrint
December 18, 2022 3:28 am

It always amuses me when eco-zealots complain that they are being silenced and that the media are refusing to report on the “crisis”. Open any newspaper, turn on the news, watch any nature documentary, scan the internet, and you will be deluged with nothing but climate twaddle.
It’s the sceptics who have always been silenced.

cognog2
Reply to  BigCarbonPrint
December 18, 2022 1:51 pm

Yes, The Alarmunists always accuse their challengers of the the SINS they regularly commit themselves. Standard practice in the Communist Handbook.

David Dibbell
December 18, 2022 3:35 am

“Abramoff said she received a phone call later, in which AGU staff informed her that if she or Kalmus returned to the fall meeting, they would be arrested, and that AGU was contacting their employers to complain.”

They are federal employees, Kalmus at JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory) and Abramoff at ORNL (Oak Ridge National Laboratory.)

In other words, we U.S. citizens employ them. It is nuts.

BobM
Reply to  David Dibbell
December 18, 2022 11:09 am

Part of Biden’s “Nutjob Outreach”??

David Dibbell
Reply to  BobM
December 18, 2022 3:49 pm

It’s worse than that. These two have been around a while. Biden is being easily manipulated by agencies now dominated by similar mentality, in my opinion.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  BobM
December 18, 2022 8:27 pm

No, it is the “Muzzle ’em” outreach.

DonM
Reply to  David Dibbell
December 19, 2022 4:07 pm

Their employers sponsored them … paid for them to be there.

In other words, their employers should definitely be notified & they (Kalmus & Abramoff) should be fired or they should have to re-reimburse their employers for all paid expenses (as well as lose any salary associated with the days given to attend).

Imagine, any of you, that your employers paid for you to go to this conference & you did something similar.

Philip Mulholland
December 18, 2022 4:14 am

They got thrown out of an AGU conference?
I must consider applying to join the AGU.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
December 18, 2022 6:12 am

The people at the AGU conference should be applauded for applauding the removal of these two disruptors.

I think the AGU policy on CO2 is alarmist.

Philip Mulholland
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 18, 2022 6:39 am

I think the AGU policy on CO2 is alarmist.

That’s a real pity.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
December 18, 2022 9:13 am

What’s a pity? That he thinks it’s alarmist, or that it is?

Philip Mulholland
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 18, 2022 5:16 pm

Yawn.

DonM
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
December 19, 2022 4:09 pm

Your replies do indicate a bit of a lack of sleep.

Scissor
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
December 18, 2022 6:50 am

Are you willing to travel all over the world to attend conferences?

Most of the conference venues are nicer than Chicago in December. I wonder if AGU plans to go fully remote by 2030. If not, why not?

Philip Mulholland
Reply to  Scissor
December 18, 2022 5:18 pm

Are you willing to travel all over the world to attend conferences?

No.

Rick C
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
December 18, 2022 5:46 pm

It is encouraging that AGU had the fortitude to toss out these clowns. Even better to hear that the audience cheered AGU’s action. Seems like an indication that the rank & file may not be all that supportive of the organization’s official position.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Philip Mulholland
December 18, 2022 8:28 pm

Judging by the reported response of the audience, the membership doesn’t support the program of the officers.

2hotel9
December 18, 2022 4:18 am

So they are admitting they are nothing but wannabe terrorists and calling for violence. Pretty sure as USG employees that is a violation of their contracts.

SMC
Reply to  2hotel9
December 18, 2022 4:38 am

Under the current administration when they are busy promoting the approved message?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  SMC
December 18, 2022 6:13 am

Biden, no doubt, is cheering them on.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 18, 2022 9:14 am

Biden, no doubt, it just waiting for someone to give him ice cream.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 18, 2022 10:59 am

Dementia Joe is just surprised and delighted when the ice cream shows up unanticipated, until he nods off and it lands in his lap.

ScienceABC123
December 18, 2022 4:29 am

It’s an old theme among leftist activists. Only the things they want to talk about are allowed to be discussed, and only their point of view is allowed to be heard. All others must be silenced.

Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
December 18, 2022 4:41 am

AGU staff escorted the pair offstage as audience members applauded and cheered.

[emphasis added]

The best part of the whole story. Maybe some of these science organizations will start insisting their members act like actual scientists. If Kalmus and Abramoff wanted to address the members from the podium, perhaps they should have submitted a paper to present.

Any word on whether the pair attempted to steal anyone’s luggage on the way out?

Last edited 1 month ago by Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
December 18, 2022 9:16 am

None left. Some other high-ranking gov’t official stole it all.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
December 18, 2022 8:31 pm

OK, you got a chuckle out of me. Doesn’t happen very often.

Peta of Newark
December 18, 2022 4:52 am

Thank you hun:
Quote:”I interpreted that as basically a threat

iow: You are projecting and you know, deep inside, that this entire climate thing is a scam

BUT, and this is the REALLY difficult bit, you cannot admit to being wrong.
And yes absolutely, such is a very hard & difficult thing to do for any of us at the best of times. It takes a very strong personality to admit to being wrong.
Even more so when you’re trapped in a ‘consensus’ ## and pretty much *everything* in your life depends on maintaining the lie.

And it is exactly that that drives you, trying to reconcile, and you cannot.
Hence what is effectively a: Cry for Help

## Consensus: a protection mechanism, to lock out The Real World. A world where energy always falls down thermal gradients – never never ever goes up them.

There is no: Net Flow.

michael hart
Reply to  Peta of Newark
December 18, 2022 5:40 am

Peta, there are many examples of spontaneous endergonic chemical reactions. That is, they get colder as the reaction progresses. 

Take a glass of water that is below room temperature and start stirring room temperature ammonium nitrate into it. As the ammonium nitrate dissolves the water solution will become even colder as the heat appears to go ‘the wrong way’ down the thermal gradient. Which way the heat goes is decided by the total free-energy change which includes both a term for heat (enthalpy) and also one for entropy changes.

Last edited 1 month ago by michael hart
Clyde Spencer
Reply to  DMacKenzie
December 18, 2022 8:32 pm

Split personality?

E. Schaffer
December 18, 2022 6:58 am

Climate conferences in a nutshell..



Curious George
December 18, 2022 8:53 am

“Global warming is happening with a rapidity that leaves me speechless”
[a headline from Dr. Kalmus’s website]
Unfortunately, not true.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Curious George
December 18, 2022 9:19 am

Actually it is true. Nothing is happening, therefore nothing to talk about.

edit: In re-reading, I guess you meant that he’s not actually speechless, to the detriment of the rest of us.

Last edited 1 month ago by Jeff Alberts
Energywise
December 18, 2022 9:10 am

It is highly positive and encouraging when these religious cultists are outed and public ally ridiculed – the same treatment they themselves dish out to anyone who contradicts their dystopian narrative

This must be accelerated and practised at every opportunity – it won’t change their demented, apocalyptic opinions, but it does give fence sitters an alternate view to analyse

Richard M
December 18, 2022 9:20 am

To admit he is wrong would mean admitting he is a complete failure. Few people are able to do that. Hence, he continues to double down on the lie.

mikelowe2013
Reply to  Richard M
December 18, 2022 10:22 am

Same as do many technically-illiterate politicians! Certainly here in New Zealand and in Australia. And on a variety of subjects – Global Climate Emergencies, vaccines, ………….

MCourtney
December 18, 2022 9:24 am

It’s good that they have highlighted 25,000 scientists think alarmist narratives are unscientific and a waste of time.

Tony_G
December 18, 2022 9:55 am

What’s really sad is how many people buy this hysteria. Just read through the replies.

John Hultquist
December 18, 2022 10:41 am

Here’s the rub.
Media will report the disruption but not the science.
I assume there will be science discussed at the AGU.😊

Bill_H
December 18, 2022 4:22 pm

It is interesting that a fair number of the above links are from “msn.com”, a pillar of journalistic integrity and scientific credibility.

Dean S
December 18, 2022 4:24 pm

“The projections for coming years are horrifying. We’re heading into a nightmare.”

Forecasts showing conditions much more mild than the crap you sprout must be horrifying for these muppets.

Clyde Spencer
December 18, 2022 8:38 pm

If this is the same AGU meeting that was held regularly in San Francisco in December, for years, I have to wonder why the venue was changed to Chicago. Is SF now so bad that the murder capitol of the country is preferable to Moscone Center?

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 18, 2022 10:20 pm

Less people poop on the sidewalk
Too cold in Chicago for that

Redge
December 18, 2022 9:19 pm

Talks and posters detail the breaking down of our Earth in real time.

Really? Where?

Redge
December 18, 2022 9:20 pm

“I interpreted that as basically a threat — which I don’t know if it was a hollow threat or not — to try and get us fired,” Abramoff told Insider.

That’s not a threat sweetheart, that’s a promise.

DonM
Reply to  Redge
December 19, 2022 4:31 pm

(If) Their employers sponsored them … paid for them to be there.
In other words, their employers should definitely be notified & they (Kalmus & Abramoff) should be fired or they should have to re-reimburse their employers for all paid expenses (as well as lose any salary associated with the days given to attend).
Imagine, any of you, that your employers paid for you to go to this conference & you did something similar.

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