2 climate activists got kicked out of the world’s biggest Earth-science conference for protesting, and one says the association is ‘silencing scientists’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-climate-activists-got-kicked-out-of-the-world-s-biggest-earth-science-conference-for-protesting-and-one-says-the-association-is-silencing-scientists/ar-AA15n87Z?li=BBnbcA1
We’ve reported on the very entertaining Peter Kalmus in the past.
Climate Nuttiness: IPCC Scientist Peter Kalmus Unglued (‘Scientist Rebellion’ a dud)
NASA Scientist Cries on Camera
Things NASA climate scientists say:
Climate scientists’ pre-traumatic stress syndrome
Here’s the beginning of the report from MSN
- Two climate scientists were kicked out of a major science conference in Chicago on Thursday.
- Peter Kalmus and Rose Abramoff went onstage to urge other researchers to take climate action.
- They told Insider the American Geophysical Union told them they’d be arrested if they returned.
CHICAGO, Illinois — Two climate scientists say they were kicked out of the world’s biggest meeting of the Earth and space sciences on Thursday.
NASA climate scientist Peter Kalmus and ecologist Rose Abramoff each told Insider they acted on their own behalf when they climbed onstage during a plenary event at the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union, an association of 60,000 advocates and professionals in the Earth and sp
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-climate-activists-got-kicked-out-of-the-world-s-biggest-earth-science-conference-for-protesting-and-one-says-the-association-is-silencing-scientists/ar-AA15n87Z?li=BBnbcA1
Here’s Kalmus’s tweet about his stunt with Abramoff
#AGU22 is the huge Earth science meeting, with 25,000 scientists. Talks and posters detail the breaking down of our Earth in real time. They are terrifying. So @ultracricket and I stepped outside extremely strong norms and urged scientists to take a stand.
https://t.co/qkjQVq8SGh
It has to be said. People are drowning in their basement apartments. People are burning in megafires. People are dying in extreme humid heat. The projections for coming years are horrifying. We’re heading into a nightmare.
The AGU took our badges and kicked us out of the meeting
Originally tweeted by Peter Kalmus (@ClimateHuman) on December 16, 2022.
Of course the duo portrayed themselves as victims.
“Please, please, please find a way to take action,” Abramoff called out, as a woman standing below them grabbed the banner from her, according to video footage from the event.
AGU staff escorted the pair offstage as audience members applauded and cheered.
Kalmus and Abramoff said two staff members then took their conference badges from them and told them to leave.
Abramoff said she received a phone call later, in which AGU staff informed her that if she or Kalmus returned to the fall meeting, they would be arrested, and that AGU was contacting their employers to complain.
“I interpreted that as basically a threat — which I don’t know if it was a hollow threat or not — to try and get us fired,” Abramoff told Insider.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-climate-activists-got-kicked-out-of-the-world-s-biggest-earth-science-conference-for-protesting-and-one-says-the-association-is-silencing-scientists/ar-AA15n87Z?li=BBnbcA1https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-climate-activists-got-kicked-out-of-the-world-s-biggest-earth-science-conference-for-protesting-and-one-says-the-association-is-silencing-scientists/ar-AA15n87Z?li=BBnbcA1
You can read the full article about the whiny duo here.
Addendum.
Say this in your best “How dare you” voice.
Let’s see, they deliberately disrupted an Important conference. . They did this knowing full well they’d get thrown out. They tried to make it all about them, then they cry about being thrown out. Then they bleat about being told not to do it again. Pathetic.
If they play their cards right they could get a lot of money for a 6 part docu-drama on Netflix.
It seems the only prerequisites are to be whingy whiners, make up stories and have “your own” version of the facts.
Seems to work for H & Smegs anyway
Apologies. Saw this after I posted. Great minds think alike?
Documentaries have had their own versions of the facts and left out major information for a long time .
Thats why they are referred to as ‘telling stories’….mostly with a human interest theme. hence the drowning burning blah blah lines from the activists
Its not only storms that have names , but the wildlife too, cant be long before trees are given human attributes as well.
Arctic scientists have been personifying ICE for some time already. How can these mean humans be attacking poor, defenseless ICE?
Sounds like they are using the Meghan-and-Harry playbook. Disrupt everything, then play the victim, with very bad acting.
They are the nightmare they warn us about; a self-destructive, self-fulfilling prophesy.
It was a pathetic protest….this Peter guy should have glued himself to the stage…that’s a protest.
Should have glued his lips to the stage floor !
Sorry, a bit off topic but:
Am I the only one who gets the following message when trying to click on the links (eg. the crying scientist one):
“Sorry, you are not allowed to edit this item.”
I also can not access the video clip…I get the following error message:
“No video with supported format and MIME type found”
This is a new problem for me with WUWT and WordPress.
It started happening about a day ago…in the past I had no problems with WUWT using Firefox.
same result with the crying scientist link
the video is working though- I heard him say “The Earth is dying”- that was enough for me
No problem with either one here – Firefox too, latest update.
Links do not work on my iPad in the UK. ‘Sorry you are not allowed to edit this item’.
Same on my iPad in Canada, probably anywhere…
My fault. Links fixed.
How about the video?
Links work, thanks but still no video.
Whacko’s like this do not help their cause, and their version of the truth is easy to disprove.
It staggers me how a supposedly science based institution like NASA could even employ extremists, do they not have a vetting process? Or is climate alarmism a prerequisite for getting a job there, and NASA is not really interested in science? 🤔
It’s wrong to think like that. These people got publicity and a sympathetic article from a major news (propaganda) organization, MSN. Whacko’s they may be, their arguments may not be grounded in reality but, they got their message out to a receptive audience.
they got their message out to a receptive audience.
As I said elsewhere, look at the replies to the tweet.
Certainly not the ones cheering and applauding as they were escorted off the stage!
NASA is a Government Bureaucracy. It might have been started, like all GovMint agencies, with the best of intentions but it is now a fully grown adult bureaucracy, the definition of which is a black hole that absorbs other people’s money.
‘…bureaucracy, the definition of which is a black hole that absorbs other people’s money in order to extend government’s power over its citizens.’
NASA was once The A Team, but the A Team left soon after the return of Apollo 17 from the Moon, to be replaced by the junior varsity during the Shuttle era, followed by the B-Squad.
Here in Canada in govt-type jobs, people who are mentally ill can’t be fired as it’s against their “human rights”. At best they can be persuaded to take a pension for life and sent home, but if they won’t take it, the employer is stuck. If you research Kalmus, he is obviously very disturbed. (Feel sorry for his kids.) So I suspect NASA is stuck with him.
“is climate alarmism a prerequisite for getting a job there, and NASA is not really interested in science?”
Yes.
Emotionally incontinent and hysterically delusional.
“A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true” – Aristotle
“I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few” – A. H.
“The problem isn’t that Johnny can’t read. The problem isn’t even that Johnny can’t think. The problem is that Johnny doesn’t know what thinking is; he confuses it with feeling” – T. Sowell
It always amuses me when eco-zealots complain that they are being silenced and that the media are refusing to report on the “crisis”. Open any newspaper, turn on the news, watch any nature documentary, scan the internet, and you will be deluged with nothing but climate twaddle.
It’s the sceptics who have always been silenced.
Yes, The Alarmunists always accuse their challengers of the the SINS they regularly commit themselves. Standard practice in the Communist Handbook.
“Abramoff said she received a phone call later, in which AGU staff informed her that if she or Kalmus returned to the fall meeting, they would be arrested, and that AGU was contacting their employers to complain.”
They are federal employees, Kalmus at JPL (Jet Propulsion Laboratory) and Abramoff at ORNL (Oak Ridge National Laboratory.)
In other words, we U.S. citizens employ them. It is nuts.
Part of Biden’s “Nutjob Outreach”??
It’s worse than that. These two have been around a while. Biden is being easily manipulated by agencies now dominated by similar mentality, in my opinion.
No, it is the “Muzzle ’em” outreach.
Their employers sponsored them … paid for them to be there.
In other words, their employers should definitely be notified & they (Kalmus & Abramoff) should be fired or they should have to re-reimburse their employers for all paid expenses (as well as lose any salary associated with the days given to attend).
Imagine, any of you, that your employers paid for you to go to this conference & you did something similar.
They got thrown out of an AGU conference?
I must consider applying to join the AGU.
The people at the AGU conference should be applauded for applauding the removal of these two disruptors.
I think the AGU policy on CO2 is alarmist.
That’s a real pity.
What’s a pity? That he thinks it’s alarmist, or that it is?
Yawn.
Your replies do indicate a bit of a lack of sleep.
Are you willing to travel all over the world to attend conferences?
Most of the conference venues are nicer than Chicago in December. I wonder if AGU plans to go fully remote by 2030. If not, why not?
No.
It is encouraging that AGU had the fortitude to toss out these clowns. Even better to hear that the audience cheered AGU’s action. Seems like an indication that the rank & file may not be all that supportive of the organization’s official position.
Judging by the reported response of the audience, the membership doesn’t support the program of the officers.
So they are admitting they are nothing but wannabe terrorists and calling for violence. Pretty sure as USG employees that is a violation of their contracts.
Under the current administration when they are busy promoting the approved message?
Biden, no doubt, is cheering them on.
Biden, no doubt, it just waiting for someone to give him ice cream.
Dementia Joe is just surprised and delighted when the ice cream shows up unanticipated, until he nods off and it lands in his lap.
It’s an old theme among leftist activists. Only the things they want to talk about are allowed to be discussed, and only their point of view is allowed to be heard. All others must be silenced.
[emphasis added]
The best part of the whole story. Maybe some of these science organizations will start insisting their members act like actual scientists. If Kalmus and Abramoff wanted to address the members from the podium, perhaps they should have submitted a paper to present.
Any word on whether the pair attempted to steal anyone’s luggage on the way out?
None left. Some other high-ranking gov’t official stole it all.
OK, you got a chuckle out of me. Doesn’t happen very often.
Thank you hun:
Quote:”I interpreted that as basically a threat
iow: You are projecting and you know, deep inside, that this entire climate thing is a scam
BUT, and this is the REALLY difficult bit, you cannot admit to being wrong.
And yes absolutely, such is a very hard & difficult thing to do for any of us at the best of times. It takes a very strong personality to admit to being wrong.
Even more so when you’re trapped in a ‘consensus’ ## and pretty much *everything* in your life depends on maintaining the lie.
And it is exactly that that drives you, trying to reconcile, and you cannot.
Hence what is effectively a: Cry for Help
## Consensus: a protection mechanism, to lock out The Real World. A world where energy always falls down thermal gradients – never never ever goes up them.
There is no: Net Flow.
Peta, there are many examples of spontaneous endergonic chemical reactions. That is, they get colder as the reaction progresses.
Take a glass of water that is below room temperature and start stirring room temperature ammonium nitrate into it. As the ammonium nitrate dissolves the water solution will become even colder as the heat appears to go ‘the wrong way’ down the thermal gradient. Which way the heat goes is decided by the total free-energy change which includes both a term for heat (enthalpy) and also one for entropy changes.
Peter Kalmus, nutjob
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-climate-crisis-is-worse-than-you-can-imagine-heres-what-happens-if-you-try
Peter Kalmus, scientist
https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/clim/27/24/jcli-d-14-00242.1.xml
Split personality?
Climate conferences in a nutshell..
“Global warming is happening with a rapidity that leaves me speechless”
[a headline from Dr. Kalmus’s website]
Unfortunately, not true.
Actually it is true. Nothing is happening, therefore nothing to talk about.
edit: In re-reading, I guess you meant that he’s not actually speechless, to the detriment of the rest of us.
It is highly positive and encouraging when these religious cultists are outed and public ally ridiculed – the same treatment they themselves dish out to anyone who contradicts their dystopian narrative
This must be accelerated and practised at every opportunity – it won’t change their demented, apocalyptic opinions, but it does give fence sitters an alternate view to analyse
To admit he is wrong would mean admitting he is a complete failure. Few people are able to do that. Hence, he continues to double down on the lie.
Same as do many technically-illiterate politicians! Certainly here in New Zealand and in Australia. And on a variety of subjects – Global Climate Emergencies, vaccines, ………….
It’s good that they have highlighted 25,000 scientists think alarmist narratives are unscientific and a waste of time.
What’s really sad is how many people buy this hysteria. Just read through the replies.
Here’s the rub.
Media will report the disruption but not the science.
I assume there will be science discussed at the AGU.😊
It is interesting that a fair number of the above links are from “msn.com”, a pillar of journalistic integrity and scientific credibility.
“The projections for coming years are horrifying. We’re heading into a nightmare.”
Forecasts showing conditions much more mild than the crap you sprout must be horrifying for these muppets.
If this is the same AGU meeting that was held regularly in San Francisco in December, for years, I have to wonder why the venue was changed to Chicago. Is SF now so bad that the murder capitol of the country is preferable to Moscone Center?
Less people poop on the sidewalk
Too cold in Chicago for that
Really? Where?
That’s not a threat sweetheart, that’s a promise.
(If) Their employers sponsored them … paid for them to be there.
In other words, their employers should definitely be notified & they (Kalmus & Abramoff) should be fired or they should have to re-reimburse their employers for all paid expenses (as well as lose any salary associated with the days given to attend).
Imagine, any of you, that your employers paid for you to go to this conference & you did something similar.