NASA Scientist Cries on Camera

We’ve discussed NASA Climate Scientist, Peler Kalmus, before on this site.

Climate Nuttiness: IPCC Scientist Peter Kalmus Unglued (‘Scientist Rebellion’ a dud)

Things NASA climate scientists say:

We now can watch him let it all hang out.

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Richard Brown
August 4, 2022 2:04 am

Can’t wait for the BBC to report on this!!
It’s just the sort of moronic behaviour they love 😀

fretslider
Reply to  Richard Brown
August 4, 2022 3:18 am

Something you won’t see on any UK media…

“WATCH: Police Beat Down Dutch Farmer Protesters with Batons”

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/08/03/watch-police-beat-down-dutch-farmer-protesters-with-batons/

It’s getting nasty.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  fretslider
August 4, 2022 7:37 am

These delusional “human-caused climate change” politicians are going to push people too far. They did so in Sri Lanka and don’t be surprised to see another Sri Lanka in Europe.

They are messing with the food supply now. Even the police and military have to eat.

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MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 4, 2022 9:42 am

The police and military will still eat. It’s the rest of us who will have to fend for ourselves.

Paul Penrose
Reply to  MarkW
August 4, 2022 9:51 am

That situation wouldn’t last long in the US.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Paul Penrose
August 4, 2022 3:19 pm

We may get a chance to find out.

bill webb
Reply to  MarkW
August 5, 2022 5:15 pm

North Korea — the army eats well. Uganda’s army during the famine as well.

Fran
Reply to  Tom Abbott
August 4, 2022 5:53 pm

Sri Lanka will be pushed under the carpet and left to the tender mercies of China and the World Bank. The MSM has be as silent on Sri Lanka as on the BIden family finances.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  fretslider
August 4, 2022 7:33 pm

Sooner or later the farmers always show up with pitchforks…..

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Richard Brown
August 4, 2022 4:12 am

I guess mental instability is always good for clicks

Kenji
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 4, 2022 7:32 am

Ohhhh … I thought you said “chicks”.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
August 4, 2022 7:40 am

I imagine he has transferred his fears to his children. They must be shaking in their boots. Unless, they are free thinkers, and then maybe they would be wondering about their father’s strange obsession with CO2. Let’s hope it is the latter.

Beagle
August 4, 2022 2:06 am

Is the title “Award Winning Actress” referring to the scientist!

Reply to  Beagle
August 4, 2022 4:52 am

Yes. And could he just say how and where the catastrophe will take place?
Global Warming: How and Where? | Bread on the water

Ron
Reply to  HenryP
August 4, 2022 7:01 am

Wouldn’t he be far more effective taken his plea to the major source of co2 emissions…China?

Jimmy h
Reply to  Ron
August 7, 2022 11:05 am

Or America, they are also a major source considering the far smaller population.

America can just ship production to China where they use far dirtier production methods and blame CO2 rise in China. Genius.

john harmsworth
Reply to  HenryP
August 4, 2022 9:40 am

Scattered showers tomorrow caused by climate change. Excuse me! Catastrophic scattered showers!

PCman999
Reply to  HenryP
August 4, 2022 10:15 pm

He says he has been warning us for “decades”, so that catastrophe has got to be coming soon!

Louis Hunt
Reply to  PCman999
August 4, 2022 10:30 pm

He’s young, so I’m sure he will continue warning us for a few more decades until he can’t get anyone to listen anymore.

Reply to  Louis Hunt
August 5, 2022 7:27 am

True. Times 4.

LdB
August 4, 2022 2:07 am

The most shocking part of that was he called climate science a career.

Ian Magness
Reply to  LdB
August 4, 2022 3:21 am

Surely he has lost his now that he has broken various laws? Surely he’s been fired?

drh
Reply to  Ian Magness
August 4, 2022 7:12 am

He has not been fired. Not yet.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  drh
August 5, 2022 4:40 am

and sadly, not likely to be either

drh
Reply to  ozspeaksup
August 5, 2022 8:30 am

Indeed. He is doing all this stuff on his own time and without the use of his employer’s resources. I know his employer will not fire him for this.

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Pop Piasa
Reply to  LdB
August 4, 2022 7:34 am

He really should have called political activism his chosen career. Science has nothing to do with emotion.

John Larson
Reply to  Pop Piasa
August 4, 2022 1:58 pm

I don’t think there’s much real emotion involved there. More like cold blooded self-interest. Think about what he said;

“I think it’s worth the risk to our careers to try to wake up the public to what is happening on this planet.”

What happens to all those people who now have degrees in “climate science”, if the public loses its fear of “climate change”?

Might as well have a degree in astrology.

Pat Frank
Reply to  John Larson
August 4, 2022 3:27 pm

Peter Kalmus has degrees in Physics all the way to the Ph.D.

That’s what makes his grandstanding so tragic. He’s completely betrayed the very science to which he committed his life.

John Larson
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 4, 2022 5:26 pm

Taking a close look at his “experience”, might shed some light on the relative value of those degrees in physics, I feel.

 
2016 –     Data Scientist, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Science Data Modeling and Computing Group
2018 –     Associate Project Scientist, University of California Joint Institute for Regional Earth System Science and Engineering (JIFRESSE)
2014-18  Assistant Researcher, University of California Joint Institute for Regional Earth System Science and Engineering (JIFRESSE)
2013-14 Postdoctoral Scholar, California Institute of Technology and Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Climate Physics
2012      Lecturer in Physics, California Institute of Technology, Department of Physics, Math, and Astronomy
2008-12 Postdoctoral Scholar, California Institute of Technology, Department of Physics, Math, and Astronomy
2003-04  Software Engineer, Liquidnet, New York City
2001-03  Senior Software Developer. Random Walk Computing, New York City
2000-01  Software Developer. Random Walk Computing, New York City
1998-00  Teacher in Physics, Math, and Astronomy. Tabor Academy, Marion, Massachusetts

DMacKenzie
Reply to  John Larson
August 4, 2022 7:51 pm

So really hasn’t held a job position for 2 years anywhere, once you put the 2016 programming stint in the middle of his 2014-2018 stretch…not a good sign…

Peter East
Reply to  John Larson
August 4, 2022 8:46 pm

The above list doesn’t seem to show any position actually working as a physicist. Or am I wrong?

John Larson
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 4, 2022 5:41 pm

PS- His “Honors and Awards” list shows a notable discontinuity too, it seems to me . .

2018     Best Sustainable Movies of 2018 from 350 Bay Area, for “Being the Change: a New Kind of Climate Documentary”
2018     NASA Early Career Public Achievement Medal
2018     Transition “Walk the Talk” Award
2018     Named to Grist 50 annual list as one of ten “Visionaries”
2018     IPPY “Outstanding Book of the Year” Award for Being the Change: Live Well and Spark a Climate Revolution
2017     Jet Propulsion Laboratory Voyager Award
2017    NASA Team Award
2017     Nautilus Book Award for Being the Change: Live Well and Spark a Climate Revolution
2017     Foreword Indies Book Award for Being the Change: Live Well and Spark a Climate Revolution
2008     Physical Review Letters “Editors’ Suggestion” for my paper, “Search for Gravitational-Wave Bursts from Soft Gamma Repeaters

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ATheoK
Reply to  John Larson
August 4, 2022 7:05 pm

Looks like crony awards, and a number of participation awards.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  John Larson
August 4, 2022 8:06 pm

2017    NASA Team Award

My Day Job gives us Certificates of Recognition too. I have one pinned with a magnet to the side of the nearest filing cabinet next to my desk.

I do not have it in my CV.

ATheoK
Reply to  LdB
August 4, 2022 7:01 pm

Appears to have the right emotional immaturity to call himself a “climate scientist” and work for the US government.

With those levels of emotional upset and depression, you know nothing he does, on or off the clock is actually science.

Ben Vorlich
August 4, 2022 2:09 am

Another Nutty Professor

Phillip Bratby
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
August 4, 2022 11:09 am

The police should carry a strait-jacket to deal with such people.

Stuart Hamish
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
August 6, 2022 6:41 am

The so called mental health professionals tend to believe the same irrational climate crisis nonsense as this crusading NASA climatologist….All he has is emotive protestations and a Jeremiah complex .What a disgrace to science ……………….They never debate skeptics such as Tony Heller Richard Lindzen or Anthony public forums

Y. Knott
August 4, 2022 2:14 am

Was he stooped-over, crying outside a chainlink fence? That shtick is old…

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Y. Knott
August 4, 2022 7:37 am

He’s an AOC wannabe.

Climate believer
August 4, 2022 2:31 am

Typical californian grifter.

You wouldn’t happen to have a book for sale would you?

Alasdair
August 4, 2022 2:39 am

SCIENTIST??? ——: Pull the other leg. Seems he has made the wrong career choice and needs some robust counselling. With emotions like that in control it is difficult to think of suitable employment for him.

HotScot
Reply to  Alasdair
August 4, 2022 5:49 am

Counselling.

Swift kick in the nad’s.

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  HotScot
August 4, 2022 5:59 am

Are you sure he has any to kick?

RevJay4
Reply to  Alasdair
August 4, 2022 6:48 am

Not sure if there are any scientists left. Especially in the “climate” field. More accurate to label them as snake oil salesmen. Or something of that nature. His problem seems more suited to selling than “science”. What a waste.

Wim Röst
August 4, 2022 2:43 am

When fear reigns, brains get disabled

Doonman
Reply to  Wim Röst
August 4, 2022 9:00 am

One can only hope that next time he sits on a railroad track in order to stop coal shipments.

Some guy named Brian Willson did that at the Concord Weapons depot the 1980’s to stop weapons shipments. Now they call him Shorty. He got an award for it in Nicaragua in 2020 where they proclaimed that he was very brave.

Wim Röst
Reply to  Doonman
August 4, 2022 9:22 am

That’s not what I hope. I hope he and people like him will land with their feet on the ground. And see that they have been fooled by fear mongers: “it may be”, “it might be”, “it could be”, “if”, and “when”. Because that’s all there is in the ‘Fear Factory’.

Now they are doing the same themselves.

We may expect from NASA people that they know how to land. Better late than never.

DonM
Reply to  Wim Röst
August 4, 2022 6:58 pm

He IS one of the fear mongers. He is the one trying to fool others.

He has devoted the last 15 years of his life trying to convince everyone else that the world is going to end … unless.

Every day he scares his kids. He tries to scare your kids. He gets paid to … do something … and his current personal goal in doing that something is to show you that you too should be scared.

And live like he does, with shared bathwater, chickens, and mismatched socks.

Peta of Newark
August 4, 2022 2:50 am

Well yes OK – but do ‘think twice’ people before you bust too many guts laughing at the guy.

To mind/sight/experience, he’s displaying classic signs of Emotional Lability or simply Emotionalism

More often than not occasioned by severe head trauma / brain injury.
In turn coming from car crashes, playing soccer, boxing or simply falling over while blind-drunk.
Possibly also bodged surgery, either directly inside your head or where blood clots from surgery elsewhere have found their way inside your brain.

Often called Transient Ischaemic Attack (TIA) or more simply = Stroke

The (less than) great thing about TIA is that nothing hurts should you have one and, after varying amounts of time, you seemingly recover.
Dependeant on your lifestyle you may simply mark down the numb/useless arm/leg as ‘getting old’ and the consequence of a long forgotten injury / accident.
Esp if it goes away after just a few days.
By then it’s too late, some part of your brain has been starved of Oxygen and in now destroyed.
No real matter, another part takes over the motor control but can not replicate the ‘soul’ ‘spirit’ ‘personality’ or whatever it is that defines who you are, not what you are.

Thus it is possible to have a Stroke without even noticing – esp if you personally have no experience within either yourself or others.

Don’t laugh too loudly here, especially if you’re over age 45, are any sort of carbohydrate eater, alcohol consumer, smoker or couch potato and haven’t learned to dance.
Or ride around in long-haul aeroplanes to any extent, esp if you’re taller than (lets say) 5′ 9″
Or in my case, you carry a genetic mutation that causes your blood to clot much more readily than normal.
When I was diagnosed 18 years ago to this very day, when I was one-in-a-hundred.
Rare. Exclusive. Elite.
I’m gutted, I’m now only one-in-thirty. I call as my authority: Paul Ehrlich

take care peeps, it’s a jungle out there – one full of shyte, wrongness and dumb stupid people.
Despite the endless assertions to the contrary.

Alba
August 4, 2022 2:55 am

He thinks that what he is doing might be a threat to his career. Seriously?

fretslider
August 4, 2022 3:06 am

Kalmus appears to be a professional snowflake of the most delicate variety. You have to wonder what past [traumatic] event in his life led to this?

“We’ve been trying warn you for so many decades”

And making themselves look that much more foolish as each deadline comes and goes.

“…entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000. 

…governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control. “

https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0

“A 2007 prediction that summer in the North Pole could be “ice-free by 2013″ that was cited by former Vice President Al Gore in his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech has proven to be off… by 920,000 square miles.”

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/wrong-al-gore-predicted-arctic-summer-ice-could-disappear-2013

Kalmus isn’t the full ticket, this is more religious mania than rational argument. They keep believing and hoping for the worst. That isn’t normal.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  fretslider
August 4, 2022 7:52 am

this is more religious mania than rational argument”

Exactly.
Climate science (a grain of science atop a mountain of speculation) has morphed into a Scientology custom made for global Marxist activism.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Pop Piasa
August 4, 2022 12:16 pm

“There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.”
Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens) had the whole CliSciFi scam figured out many decades before the specific practitioners came along. Nothing changes under the Sun.

Hoyt Clagwell
Reply to  fretslider
August 4, 2022 9:59 am

The quote should be: “We have been trying to warn you for so many decades that we only have 10 years left!”
Sounds like something Yogi Berra would have said.

0311
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
August 4, 2022 4:56 pm

When you come to a fork in your career take it. This guy took the wrong one.

Stephen Skinner
August 4, 2022 3:18 am

“In every age everybody knows that up to his own time, progressive improvement has been taking place; nobody seems to reckon on any improvement in the next generation. We cannot absolutely prove that those are in error who say society has reached a turning point – that we have seen our best days. But so said all who came before us and with just as much apparent reason. … On what principle is it that with nothing but improvement behind us, we are to expect nothing but deterioration before us?” Thomas Babington Macaulay

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
August 4, 2022 8:44 am

“Of all the offspring of Time, Error is the most ancient, and is so old and familiar an acquaintance, that Truth, when discovered, comes upon most of us like an intruder, and meets the intruder’s welcome.” – Charles MacKay

Old Man Winter
August 4, 2022 3:20 am

“Big oil is only part of the problem. Another part: our own desire
for convenience… mistaking wants for needs.”

Methinks two months each of surviving without oil products & other
modern conveniences both in the bitter cold Arctic & the steamy
hot tropics, where he could “embrace a low energy lifestyle” & be “in
alignment with the biosphere” & not “kill off much other life”. This would
go along way to help him get “in alignment with reality”!

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Jim Gorman
Reply to  Old Man Winter
August 4, 2022 4:16 am

The “Naked and Afraid” TV show would give him a course on what NOT to wish for.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Jim Gorman
August 4, 2022 12:27 pm

I never watch “reality” shows.

Jim Gorman
Reply to  Dave Fair
August 5, 2022 6:21 am

However “real” this show is, it does demonstrate how hard it is to find enough food and potable water to stay alive. Urban dwellers with no space to grow fruits and vegetables would be forced to live this way. I suggest that the rat population would disappear quickly.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Old Man Winter
August 4, 2022 12:26 pm

Peter Kalmus proposes that government tax people into surrendering to his fears and phobias. He should read Vaclav Smil’s “How The World Really Works” to get some understanding the role energy (and lack of it) plays in our everyday lives and the betterment of humanity.

Linda Goodman
August 4, 2022 3:50 am

Thoroughly brainwashed by junk science.

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Linda Goodman
August 4, 2022 10:04 am

Indeed. Consider the following pompous title from a once prestigious ‘science’ journal. The assertions towards the end (in bold) are the most alarming. ‘Clockwork Orange’?
Extract from New Scientists 26 Sept 2015

’When right is wrong’
“In June, a new voice backed up what many scientists have been saying for a while – that climate change is caused by human activity and we have a moral responsibility to tackle it. In a historic edict, Pope Francis warned that failing to act would have “grave consequences”, the thrust of which would fall on the world’s poorest people. His words came as a stark reminder that global climate change is among the most pressing moral dilemmas of the 21st century.”…
…”Take BankTrack, a global network of NGOs that exposes banks involved with projects that threaten the environment and human rights. BankTrack has looked at banks lending to the coal industry, a major source of global carbon dioxide emissions and compiled a list of the top “climate killers”.
It’s manifesto is simple: “By naming and shaming these banks, we hope to set the stage for a race to the top, where banks compete with each other to clean up their portfolios and stop financing investments which are pushing our climate over the brink.
However, harnessing the power of rational reflection, collective identity and shame may not be the only options for the would be moral revolutionaries. In their book Unfit for the future, philosophers Ingmar Persson of the University of Gothenburg in Sweden and Julian Savulescu of the University of Oxford argue that our moral brains are so compromised that the only way we can avoid catastrophe is to enhance them through biomedical means..
In the past few years, researchers have shown it might actually be possible to alter moral thinking with drugs and brain stimulation.”

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James Schrumpf
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
August 4, 2022 10:40 am

Yeah, a pope says ONE TIME that “failing to act would have ‘grave consequences'” and the alarmists get all excited. However, popes for nearly a thousand years have been saying “failure to act (accept Jesus Christ as your Savior) would have grave consequences (for you, sinner!), and that one they ignore.

That’s cherry-picking!

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  James Schrumpf
August 4, 2022 10:46 am

Galileo’s run in with the Vatican didn’t go in favour of science. He spent the rest of his days under house arrest.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
August 4, 2022 2:58 pm

That was apparently because he went out of his way to be a grandstanding a-hole.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 4, 2022 3:43 pm

Too much like a pope, apparently.

Nevertheless, Galileo was correct. The pope, not.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 4, 2022 4:03 pm

The Pope apparently didn’t express an opinion on the scientific argument.
Galileo’s published argument was expressed in extremely biased terms which ridiculed the prevailing paradigm.
It also didn’t explain the observations as well as the overly complicated epicycles.

Having dealt with bureaucratic impediments, his frustration was understandable. He didn’t beat city hall. though.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 4, 2022 5:05 pm

p.s. Early heliocentric hypotheses involved circular orbits, so din’t match observations as well as geocentric + epicycles.

Kepler’s elliptical orbits did explain the observations better, but weren’t published until after Galileo’s brouhaha.

The Wikipedia article on Heliocentrism seems to provide a reasonable summary.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 4, 2022 9:04 pm

Stillman Drake shows that Galileo’s Dialogues was illustrative, with the Copernican diagram meant to remove resistance to the motion of Earth. It was not a textbook.

Wikipedia is untrustworthy about anything that has the remotest possibility of having political content.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 4, 2022 9:35 pm

There have previously been some very good expositions here on Galileo’s troubles with The Establishment. The Wikipedia article is broadly in agreement.

Galileo’s treatise didn’t advance the argument for heliocentrism a lot without the explanatory power of elliptical orbits, though his observations of planets and their moons should have been useful if he hadn’t been deliberately provocative.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 4, 2022 8:48 pm

Galileo’s crime was to write the pope’s views into the mouth of a fictional character named Simplicio. That, and promoting a heliocentric theory that involved the motion of Earth.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 4, 2022 9:42 pm

That was the point 🙂

He had jumped through all the hoops to be allowed to publish his dissertation on what was still a sore topic, then did his best to antagonise the person who had done a lot to facilitate that publication.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 5, 2022 11:24 am

So your thesis is that the pope’s decision from egotistical pique to persecute Galileo was Galileo’s fault. Unconvincing transference.

Galileo’s observation of the phases of Venus disproved geocentrism.

Galileo’s forced recantation included, “I must altogether abandon the false opinion that the sun is the center of the world and immovable, and that the earth is not the center of the world, and moves … I have been pronounced by the Holy Office to be vehemently suspected of heresy, that is to say, of having held and believed that the Sun is the center of the world and immovable, and that the earth is not the center and moves…”

Quite the thing, papal pique, isn’t it.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 5, 2022 2:10 pm

I don’t have any particular view, but have worked with enough large organisations to know how the internal politics play out.

Galileo’s Celestial observations using a telescope (which was probably a Dutch invention) led him to formulate a Heliocentric hypothesis.

Nothing could be published without The Church’s approval, and Heliocentrism was in the naughty corner at the time.

After bashing his head against the bureaucratic brick wall for ages, Galileo appealed to his friend, The Pope.

The Pope saw merit in the argument, but even he couldn’t make the immovable Cardinals move. More likely, he saw it as interesting, but not a big enough deal to overtly take on the Cardinals.
Eventually, The Pope brokered a compromise where the proposition could be published on the condition that Heliocentrism wasn’t advocated, but was just one of the equally weighted options. The Cardinals would have extracted something for this.

Galileo published, and didn’t keep his side of the bargain. Not only that, he intentionally insulted his benefactor and champion.

Of course that betrayal of trust alienated the Pope, who had now lost a lot of face and authority after having brokered the deal at his own cost.

Rather than the Pope’s pique leading to Galileo’s prosecution. Galileo’s betrayal led to the Pope withdrawing his protection.

If Galileo had kept his side of the bargain, nothing would have happened to him.

Probably the more important questions are:
Who was responsible for proof-reading and approving the manuscript?
Who stood to gain from The Pope’s loss of authority?
Why wasn’t The Pope advised there was trouble at t’mill?

Pat Frank
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 5, 2022 4:43 pm

Galileo’s Dialogues passed muster during a meeting with Cardinal Bellarmine in 1616. Galileo made all the changes required by the Inquisition. He had leave to proceed from pope Paul V.

The later pope, Urban VIII, was not party to the 1616 meeting. He was tricked into believing that Galileo had betrayed him.

Galileo presented exonerating documentary evidence of prior permission during his 1633 trial. But he was convinced to plea-bargain so that the Inquisition could save face. He expected a lenient sentence, but didn’t get one.

Galileo kept his bargain. He was railroaded.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 5, 2022 5:01 pm

To the extent that Wikipedia can be trusted, the Dialogue was published in 1632 with the encouragement of Pope Urban VIII.

If this was the original 1616 version with no further review, it would appear that Galileo was simply extremely naive rather than an a-hole, and that Sir Humphrey managed to kill two birds with one stone.

The questions still apply to the 1632 publication.

Stephen Skinner
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 4, 2022 3:46 pm

Oh. Then it would appear that there were a lot of grandstanding a-holes that the Vatican had to deal with during the Spanish Inquisition or those grandstanding a-holes that wanted an English Bible?

Old Cocky
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
August 4, 2022 4:08 pm

Those were entirely different areas than Galileo’s grandstanding.

Galileo wasn’t the lone scientist fighting for science against the conservative ignorance of the Roman Catholic Church as portrayed in the current myth.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 4, 2022 9:07 pm

True. There was Giordano Bruno.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 4, 2022 9:45 pm

Bruno’s various heresies in other areas had apparently done a lot to make Heliocentrism a rather contentious proposition purely by association.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 5, 2022 11:38 am

And the view itself that contradiction is heresy and therefore a crime punishable by burning alive — that’s acceptable?

Bruno’s declarations that the sun was just another star and that the solar system was heliocentric were just the toppers of a series of heresies that neither the Catholic Church nor the Lutheran would tolerate.

The notion of heresy was theirs. Speak your mind, get burned.

Freethinkers ran afoul of slave states. Blaming the victim is a classic defense of tyranny.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 5, 2022 2:38 pm

Taking on The State (deep or otherwise) on its home ground is very rarely going to end well. Ask the Chinese Democracy movements, Canadian truckers, Dutch farmers, Gilets Jaunes or US January 6 protesters.

This doesn’t alter Galileo’s ability to snatch defeat from the gaping jaws of victory.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 5, 2022 4:45 pm

Galileo’s victory was complete in the physical correctness of his position, in the self-serving chicanery of the Inquisition, and in John Paul II’s later admission of error.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 5, 2022 5:31 pm

Kepler’s eccentric orbits most likely provided the theoretical ammunition to swing the balance.

Galileo would have had as much, or more, influence than he did if the Dialogue hadn’t kicked over the ant nest.
Hs work was certainly important, as was Tycho Brahe’s meticulous data collection.

We remember Galileo more for his contretemps with the church bureaucracy than for his actual important contribution.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 6, 2022 5:30 am

than for his actual important contribution.

Galileo invented mathematical physics.

Galileo made theory subject to experiment, separating science forever from Philosophy; essences and nature of no longer any part of science.

Galileo overthrew the reign of Aristotle as revered source of all knowledge, infuriating the hidebound academics of his day. They, not the Church, were his greatest enemies.

His astronomical work alone would have made Galileo famous. But he invented modern science, he brought dynamics into it. The full scope of his work makes him the equal of Isaac Newton. Indeed, Newton is inconceivable without Galileo.

The 19th century Church tried very hard to exculpate itself from the guilt of Galileo’s trial and condemnation. By then, there was no denying Galileo had been correct.

So, the Church developed an elaborate polemic — one that blamed Galileo for his own persecution and calculated to get them out from under their own burden of wrongdoing. A classic of insult following injury.

AD White has an excellent description of the Church’s shameful attempts to place the blame on Galileo in his History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom.

It was they who elevated the persecution of Galileo front and center to his history, misleading people such as yourself, OC, into thinking it was the centerpiece of Galileo’s life.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 6, 2022 2:52 pm

We seem to be in furious agreement about the contretemps with The Church overshadowing his achievements.

Your reading is far more comprehensive than mine, so based on the additional information my working hypothesis has now changed to naivety rather than ego.

Thank you for an enlightening dialogue.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 6, 2022 5:34 am

Kepler’s elliptical orbits were empirical, not theoretical.

Galileo accepted them as providing accurate predictions of orbits in a much simpler frame than the complex sets of epicycles required of the Ptolemaic model.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 6, 2022 2:42 pm

Empirically derived, certainly. Surely that is an important aspect of the scientific method, as is employing Occam’s Razor.

Stuart Hamish
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 6, 2022 7:26 am

Galileo Copernicus Kepler and Giardano Bruno were prototypical scientists nonetheless ….So was the mathematician and astronomer Hypatia who was skinned alive and dragged through the streets of Alexandria by a Christian fanatic mob ……..Pope Francis; and the Vaticans climate crisis edict is the same superstitious nonsense as geocentrism and there is no woke cause that mad pope has not attached himself to ……Do you believe ” Islam and Christianity are the same ” , that the European migrant crisis is reminiscent of Joseph and Mary’s flight to Egypt .? That nutjob Pope evidently does and he seems comfortable in the company of the most egregious tyrants – when he is not taking bribes from them ..Galileo was not a grandstander and he never ordered the persecution and slaughter of those who disagreed with him like the Inquisition ..You just strike me as resentful because you are not in his echelon ….. That said Catholicism and the Churches have produced some brilliant scientific minds such as Mendel and the pioneer of the Big Bang theory

Old Cocky
Reply to  Stuart Hamish
August 6, 2022 3:19 pm

Not resentful at all. He was a brilliant man, far beyond my capabilities. Pat has provided a quite convincing argument that it was naivety rather than ego on Galileo’s part.
There also appears to have been a certain amount of internal politics which brought both Galileo and Pope Urban VIII into line.

The Roman Catholic Church had a monopoly (at least in Europe) on scholarship for over a thousand years, and for quite a large proportion of that time had the philosophy that God had given Man intelligence so that he could investigate the mysteries of Nature to gain some understanding of what He had done,
The scientific method was built by standing on the shoulders of giants, so to speak. We can’t forget William of Okham in that pantheon.

Stuart Hamish
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 6, 2022 10:38 pm

Not just resentful but a doubletalker ……..You slandered Galileo as an egocentric ;” grandstander ” – quite obviously a resentful pejorative and an argument you do not seem convinced by yourself [ ” Pat has provided a quite convincing argument that is was naivety rather than ego on Galileos part ” …..Have you made up your mind ?] ….Evidently the philosophy of God’s bestowal of intelligence hasn’t worked for someone ……Galileo’s scientific inquiries were an affront to Catholic catechistic doctrine and that is why he was persecuted and vilified ….. Old Cocky is also an ignorant historical revisionist : the Roman Catholic Church did not have a monopoly on scholarship for the better part of a millennium …..The Arab caliphates [ including the Andalusian caliphate in Spain ] retained and explored Greek Roman Babylonian and Egyptian philosophy and science ever since the 7th century AD …However even they were prone to bonfire and demolition purges of ancient learning, art and the sporadic persecution of dissident intellectuals – and still are …
…………………Nowadays its the new inquisitors of woke puritanism – aided and abetted by politicized police – rewriting history, hounding and cancelling truthful historians , climate skeptics , original thinkers and those who share irreverent jokes ….

Old Cocky
Reply to  Stuart Hamish
August 7, 2022 1:48 am

That’s correct. Pat provided additional information which tilted the balance towards naivety. Earlier discussions here on the topic indicated that Galileo failed to honour the terms of publication, but it appears he may have published his original paper which had been initially approved and then blocked.
If additional information shows that the 1632 paper differs greatly from the 1616 version, that may change the working hypothesis.

If Galileo’s enquiries were such an affront, why did Pope Urban VIII intervene to allow publication?
This was a contentious area at the time, so it would have been much easier to not allow publication. He apparently saw merit in allowing Galileo’s work to be discussed, albeit with some rather severe restrictions.

I should have specified Christendom rather than Europe, so I stand corrected on that point. Even that is rather murky, because the Eastern Roman Empire stood for some centuries after the fall of the Western Roman Empire, and had quite a lot of non-Christian scholars. Generalisations tend to lose a lot of information. Perhaps Western Christendom is the more accurate terminology.

The monasteries and, later, universities were conducting original research as well as attempting to preserve Greek and Roman knowledge from before The Fall ofRome. There was also much original research and knowledge preservation occurring in the Caliphates starting a little later. Because of their location, they could also exchange knowledge with India and, to a lesser extent, China. As I understand it, there were also extended periods of knowledge exchange between scholars in Christendom and the Caliphates.

Apart from institutions run by the Roman Catholic Church, what scholarship was occurring in Wester Christendom between the Fall of Rome and Martin Luther? It’s always good to learn something new.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 7, 2022 10:54 pm

There was also much original research and knowledge preservation occurring in the Caliphates starting a little later.

The canonical story of Islam’s rise and early conquests is almost certainly wrong. Most of the translation of Greek science into, first Aramaic and later Arabic, occurred in the 8th and 9th centuries, before Islam got its full grip.

Islam itself emerged only in the 8th century. Most of the scholars were Semitic Christians, Jews, and Persians. It was primarily their descendants who kept the tradition alive. They converted to Islam after the religious oppression became severe in the mid-9th century, and took Arabic names.

The fall of Constantinople in 1453 produced a large-scale migration of Byzantine scholars into Europe. They, as much as anything else, brought the ancient learning into the West.

Much of the rest was translation into Latin of the early Arabic treatises. Islamic societies by then had no interest in the ancient sciences.

Following al-Ghazzali (12th C), most Islamic thinking had it that whatever contradicted the Quran was wrong and anything consistent with the Quran was redundant. So, Islamic societies became moribund and uninterested in any external learning.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 8, 2022 1:21 am

Thanks for adding detail, Pat. I’d read that many of the scholars in Asia Minor were Persians, much as a large proportion of the scholars in the Roman Empire were Greek.

I had also read that there was quite a bit of mathematical work, with al-Khwarizmi’s name being lent to the term algorithm. Ahh, after a little more checking, he was Persian.
Another of the giants whose shoulders later scholars stood on.

Alas, so many interesting topics, so little time to give all of them the time they warrant.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 5, 2022 4:34 pm

Pat and I may be the only people still taking notice, so this is late to the party.

What would the reaction have been to the following statement?

That was apparently because he exceeded the bounds of his publication approval in a paper written in somewhat intemperate terms.

Stuart Hamish
Reply to  Old Cocky
August 6, 2022 7:07 am

No Old Cocky Galileo stood up for the truth and partially recanted under threat of torture and death …The Vatican only formally repealed geocentrism and redeemed Galileo last century . The old Peronist Jorge Bergoglio is a vicious heretic hunting dictatorial pontiff who was mentored by a Communist nun …..He ordered his secret police to track down the author of Dictator Pope ….He – and the homosexual club fronted by the Marxist [ and probably erstwhile KGB agent ] pederast McCarrick that engineered his papacy and betrayed the Christian faithful in China are the a-holes ….That is how history will remember them

Jim Gorman
Reply to  Stephen Skinner
August 5, 2022 6:34 am

In a historic edict, Pope Francis warned that failing to act would have “grave consequences”, the thrust of which would fall on the world’s poorest people. “

The moral dilemma is that acting would also “have “grave consequences”, the thrust of which would fall on the world’s poorest people”. 

This is what is never discussed in all the net zero proposals. Only the reduction in the emission of CO2 is ever discussed as a moral imperative. No one ever mentions that moral imperative also requires that one act in such a manner so as to minimize the effects of the actions on the poorest people.

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Josh Scandlen
August 4, 2022 3:54 am

and these are the guys that are gonna get us back to the moon, eh?

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Josh Scandlen
August 4, 2022 6:03 am

He’s not from that part of NASA. He’s from the James Hansen part that does nothing but run unrealistic climate models. Like so much of the Federal Government, NASA is a huge, ever-growing bureaucracy, only part of which does any real work.

Rocketscientist
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
August 4, 2022 7:33 am

Umm… you will need to look pretty hard to find NASA ever doing science. Sure NASA “funded” research centers conduct all sorts, but they are not typically wholly owned by NASA. Ames and Goddard come to mind, but JPL is run and operated by CalTech.

The laymen always seem to forget that last A in NASA stands for Administration.

James Schrumpf
Reply to  Rocketscientist
August 4, 2022 10:41 am

Yeah. Bunch of contract managers is all NASA is.

George Daddis
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
August 4, 2022 8:03 am

Apparently he is now developing models to more accurately predict the harm warming will do to corals. Note the circular argument upon which he is building his models; the assumption that there is and has been sufficient warming to harm the corals.

Called “Begging the Question” using GIGO.

DaveinCalgary
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
August 4, 2022 8:48 am

I love how he is wearing a lab coat (for some reason!) like he’s pretending to be a “scientist” for a costume party!

Pflashgordon
Reply to  DaveinCalgary
August 4, 2022 11:09 am

It PROVES he is not a scientist. A lab coat is PPE to be worn only in the lab, then taken off before exiting. I suspect that this boy hasn’t seen a real laboratory since he was an undergraduate.

Dave Fair
Reply to  DaveinCalgary
August 4, 2022 12:34 pm

Whenever I see a bunch of clowns parading in white lab coats I know they are espousing government propaganda and religious-like faith in something not proven. Ideological activism hidden inside of pseudo science.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Josh Scandlen
August 4, 2022 8:02 am

Don’t worry, SpaceX will recover the ball when NASA fumbles

Dave Fair
Reply to  Pop Piasa
August 4, 2022 12:36 pm

China, the opposing team, might get there first.

Javier
August 4, 2022 4:03 am

I’m also worried about his sons. Having such a father is a serious handicap in life.

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  Javier
August 4, 2022 6:04 am

His sons have two Mommies.

drh
Reply to  Javier
August 4, 2022 7:22 am

That is the saddest part. Here’s some more about his home life:
https://peterkalmus.net/media/

Kenji
Reply to  drh
August 4, 2022 7:49 am

That is a very sad home life. The saddest part is at the end of the piece when he questions whether mankind is “better” than all the other animals on the planet. Yeah … humans aren’t better than his free range suburban chickens. I feel very sorry for his next door neighbors. And his 2.0 offspring

Dave Fair
Reply to  drh
August 4, 2022 12:43 pm

Yeah, I read a supposedly positive profile of him that exposed him as a raving lunatic. His wife isn’t in much better shape and uses passive/aggressive behaviors to cope in her relationship with him. The poor kids seem to have tuned him out as much as they can. WUWT had some stuff on his lifestyle.

The above clip shows the whole thing in a different, flattering light. The reality is much grimmer for his family.

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drh
Reply to  Dave Fair
August 4, 2022 7:56 pm

I think this might be the profile you’re referring to. And, yes, he’s really disturbed and his family is suffering for it.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-climate-crisis-is-worse-than-you-can-imagine-heres-what-happens-if-you-try

DMacKenzie
Reply to  drh
August 4, 2022 8:00 pm

You gotta admit his article on “Why emit 30,000 tons of CO2 for a CC conference?” is right on point.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/dec/11/climate-scientists-emit-30000-tonnes-c02

Mr. Lee
August 4, 2022 4:09 am

American tax dollar hard at work.

David Dibbell
August 4, 2022 4:25 am

On the other hand, #Nasa_Knew
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/05/16/wuwt-contest-runner-up-professional-nasa-knew-better-nasa_knew/

It is a crying shame (and a crime!) that Kalmus is now being paid by the same agency that once knew better. Our tax dollars are going toward this madness.

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Vuk
August 4, 2022 4:42 am

Another nutter.
Cry baby cry
Make your mother sigh
She’s old enough to know better
So cry baby cry

https://youtu.be/Lb6TyIIb1fI

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Coach Springer
August 4, 2022 4:56 am

Modernized lamentations of their womyn.

John Bell
August 4, 2022 5:03 am

BUT WAIT! Peter uses fossil fuels every day! WTF!

Pop Piasa
Reply to  John Bell
August 4, 2022 8:05 am

Green pass, nothing to see here, move along.

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Geoff Sherrington
August 4, 2022 5:06 am

Peter Kalmus appears to have some of the qualities we sought in applicants for jobs with us. Lateral thinking, interest in more than the usual topics (like gravitational waves), a good schooling, those types of properties.
Where does he seem to have gone wrong? First, by hitching his future to an ephemeral topic like climate change. He should have dug deeper into its scientific validity before joining up. Second, he became an emotional. You cannot do good, objective, hard science if you are emotional about it. Women tend to be more so than men, which is why so many women now in high places in the USA are causing mini train wrecks, like Nancy Pelosi in Taiwan.
Geoff S

Geoff Sherrington
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
August 4, 2022 5:15 am

BTW, strike 3 might be that he is overtly woke. On Wiki, his age is given as –
Peter Kalmus is 48 years previous in the intervening time. On Could 9, 1974, he was born.

Bob Johnston
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
August 4, 2022 6:58 am

Guys like Kalmus become climatologists in the first place because they fervently believe CAGW is a thing and they want to save the world. You’ll never be able to use data or logic to convince someone like this that CAGW is showing no signs of occurring.

Climastrology is the religion for people who are “too smart” for religion. They’re true believers.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Bob Johnston
August 4, 2022 8:13 am

Kalmus majored in astrophysics. So did James Hanson, so did Joe Postma, so did Laurence Kraus (a good guy), de Grasse Tyson, and other self declared climate gurus. There is something about that particular field that allows these guys to declare themselves climate scientists and foreseers of doom while actually knowing almost nothing about how the real world works, except grad lounge chatter. Possibly they impress chicks with their speculative knowledge of black hole information loss and heat death of the universe.
Their inability to convince the public that their Earthly fantasies are real, then drives them to extreme behavior or political activism, after being convinced in the grad lounge that they are far smarter than everyone else. Or else writing books that nobody except other like minded inexperienced people read…worse, they get on TV….

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James Schrumpf
Reply to  DMacKenzie
August 4, 2022 10:45 am

De Grasse Tyson is the hugest huckster in science. His CV lists 14 papers, only one of which he soloed. He’s actually mostly well-known because Carl Sagan took him under his wing back in the day.

rah
August 4, 2022 5:14 am

Yesterday I spent nearly 3 hours at a Medcheck getting my Class A CDL drivers physical renewed. I have been sweating this because my BP has been running higher than the acceptable limit for a standard two year recertification at times. The wait was a long one because they were busy but I was determined to get it done because I was out of time and sick and tired of stressing over it.

There was a loser in there that had been brought for a drug screening. He was whining and pacing. He kept giving the girls at the front counter a hard time saying he should be allowed outside after being repeatedly told he had to stay in the building until after his test or he would be considered to have flunked.

He paced, he whined, he got on the phone with someone; I think it was probably his parole officer. And then he would go back and argue with which ever girl was working the counter at that time.

At first it was mildly entertaining, then it became irritating, and after 40 minutes of that crap I had just about reached my personal saturation level.

But the guy finally left when he was next up in the que and this old Seargent didn’t get involved.

If forced into a position where I would have to rely on either that druggie or that “scientist” in question to do something, I’m not sure which I would pick.

BTW I squeaked by. 136/88. Good for another two years if I so desire.

John Hultquist
Reply to  rah
August 4, 2022 11:53 am

I’ve always enjoyed your comments regarding your profession.
Stop every few hours and hike & chill.
136 is too high. 125 better.
Slàinte Mhaith

rah
Reply to  John Hultquist
August 4, 2022 1:54 pm

Back at you. I am determined to quit smoking. Alcohol is not a real problem because I have maybe two Jack & non cokes and a lawnmowing beer a week.

Exercise is part of the problem. Your right. I need to do more. Especially during the winter months because during the summer I have plenty of physical stuff to do.

Pat Frank
Reply to  rah
August 4, 2022 3:59 pm

Try taking arginine/citrulline supplements, rah.

They are the synthons for metabolic nitric oxide (NO) production, which is the chemical messenger for blood vessel dilation.

Consistent use may lower your blood pressure.

rah
Reply to  Pat Frank
August 4, 2022 7:05 pm

As may increased magnesium. The multivitamin I take provides 26% of MDA. I am looking to supplement that.

Yirgach
Reply to  rah
August 4, 2022 1:27 pm

136/88! Good on ya mate!
I only reach that level after 20 minutes of reading “A Canticle for Leibowitz” or something else that grabs my focus…

rah
Reply to  Yirgach
August 4, 2022 1:46 pm

It was almost certainly a good thing that loser had bailed at least 20 minutes before it was my turn.

Fran
Reply to  rah
August 4, 2022 6:13 pm

My husband does a fine line in White Coat Hypertension. His BP is only normal if the doc goes away and leaves him with the machine cycling on and off for 15 min. I knew one trucker who managed to pass by having sex and a sauna before the examination.

toorightmate
August 4, 2022 5:21 am

The poor bloke is over worked.
So would you be if you had to homogenize true data results every second day on a never-ending upward spiral.
If you really believed in your work, it would be a very depressing activity.
The “””people””” who run NASA these days must be very proud of him.
If only he had been around 85 years ago those hundreds of thousands of people who perished from heat in N America, Europe, sub-Continent and Australia would not have perished.
He would have been able to tell them that it was really 10C less than they thought that it was.

joe x
August 4, 2022 5:39 am

ok, that is enough already. 50 years ago, one phone call and this guy would be in a psych ward for evaluation. it gets worse, he said he has sons. their breeding now. in my youth i was so proud of nasa. you know the golden years. mercury, gemini, apollo, shuttle programs. and then it ended.

is there a question on the nasa jop aplication that reads…do you cry when thinking about climate change? yes or no. check the correct box and your in. nasa=not a scientist anywhere.

Mumbles McGuirck
August 4, 2022 5:56 am

So he’s a “climate scientist” who works exclusively with computer models. So why is he wearing a white lab coat?? Is he worried he might get some bytes on his T shirt?

DaveinCalgary
Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
August 4, 2022 8:55 am

He actually has deep doubts about his worth as a scientist which he projects on others. Therefore he wears the coat to make sure everyone knows he’s legit. The pathologies are on full display here for a Psych 101 class

fretslider
August 4, 2022 5:59 am

If I were a mere useless DJ I’d play this for Kalmus

Shoki Kaneda
August 4, 2022 6:10 am

Mentally unstable. Should not be in any position of responsibility.

ResourceGuy
August 4, 2022 6:46 am

Cry me a river. The Taliban are crying over their lost millions in international funds too.

Taliban claim they unaware of al-Qaida leader in Afghanistan – ABC News (go.com)

David Kamakaris
August 4, 2022 6:49 am

Peter better get some mental health care soon. He’s on the verge of setting himself on fire outside the Supreme Court building.

Bob Johnston
August 4, 2022 6:52 am

They’re not lying or exaggerating, they’re just wrong. It’s called “believing your own bullshit”.

Bruce Cobb
August 4, 2022 6:54 am

Here’s another video of him where he totally loses it:
These “scientists” seem to have such fragile emotions. Perhaps the Climate bandwagon wasn’t such a good career choice.

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Olen
August 4, 2022 7:11 am

So this is what NASA is hiring! Not very shiny.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Olen
August 4, 2022 8:15 am

I’ll bet he was hand picked by Hanson.

Old Cocky
Reply to  Pop Piasa
August 4, 2022 4:44 pm

I think James Hanson had retired before he was hired, so he would have been hired under Gavin Schmidt.

Danley Wolfe
August 4, 2022 7:26 am

All grownups in the room please raise your right arm.

Not Chicken Little
August 4, 2022 7:28 am

The sky is still not falling.

What I have experienced in my nearly three-quarters of a century on this Earth, and what I have learned from history and geology, tells me that weather is highly variable, and that variations in climate over hundreds and thousands and millions of years are natural processes and not caused by Man.

People like Peter give science a bad name.

ACParker
August 4, 2022 7:41 am

They make sure to wear their priestly robes.

kybill
August 4, 2022 8:10 am

I personally don’t have any problem with his way of living – more power to him and I appreciate his dedication to his style. He and his family seem well adjusted. I do object to him interfering with others and businesses.

I will offer a guess that his kids are home schooled so they are probably learning something.

Dave Fair
Reply to  kybill
August 4, 2022 2:45 pm

You are basing your opinion of him on a propaganda puff-piece. Search WUWT for the Post on him. Look under NASA.

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Craig
August 4, 2022 8:12 am

If climate scientists want people to listen to them, maybe they should stop lying.

John the Econ
August 4, 2022 8:13 am

From religion to cult to mental illness.

Pop Piasa
August 4, 2022 8:19 am

The title should more correctly read:
NASA Climate Activist Who Claims To Be Scientist Cries On Camera.

Joseph Borsa
August 4, 2022 8:42 am

Sad, but it’s his personal choice which he’s fully entitled to make. Reminds me of “climate scientist guy” from Australia who spoke here in Winnipeg over a dozen years ago who had sacrificed his career, had sold and given away all of his “stuff”, was going around the world telling other people that the climate calamity was now irreversible and we had at most 5 or 6 years before the planet became uninhabitable. His science told him so.

Doonman
August 4, 2022 8:47 am

Why do climate scientists have to wear lab coats when chaining themselves to bank doors? Are the experiments they are performing there in need of extra cleanliness?

August 4, 2022 8:47 am

Love the white coat — like he works in some sort of sterile lab!

Petit_Barde
August 4, 2022 8:48 am

Wearing a white lab coat and a mask, is this crackpot seriously trying to make believe he is some kind of climate quack or something ?

August 4, 2022 9:10 am

And why do they bother to publicize this? The bank should have a lock cutter, snap his chain off, and send him on his way.

Ed Zuiderwijk
August 4, 2022 9:27 am

These are not scientists. They are ignorant imposters who got a phoney degree from a sunken university.

ResourceGuy
August 4, 2022 9:31 am

Not sure if this will initiate an uncontrolled laughing episode by Putin and Xi to cause a heart attack or stroke but it’s worth a try.

Philip CM
August 4, 2022 9:43 am

He and his ilk are not scientists. They’re propagandists who sell an end to humanity crisis in order to justify a government paycheck, and their mediocre desk under the broadly abused label of science. They’ve run out the clock on their fifteen minutes.

“In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes.” 

Dave Fair
Reply to  Philip CM
August 4, 2022 3:41 pm

Andy Warhol.

Bruce Cobb
August 4, 2022 10:13 am

Peter needs to grow a pear. They are nice for fruit salad and other things.

Slowroll
August 4, 2022 11:06 am

He is the classic example of the problem clearly articulated by the observation that it is very difficult to get someone to understand a problem when their salary depends upon them not understanding it. Describes a fair number of “science” practitioners these days.

Gyan1
August 4, 2022 12:27 pm

Why does NASA allow someone so unhinged to do “science” and speak as if he represents them?

JoeG
August 4, 2022 12:42 pm

Physics demonstrates that carbon is not the problem. What kind of scientist is this loser?

Abell
August 4, 2022 1:57 pm

This guy needs a psychiatric intervention. The scary part is that he has apparently already procreated.

Bob
August 4, 2022 2:08 pm

Just more people acting stupid, this is really getting tiresome.

Gunga Din
August 4, 2022 2:24 pm

I’d believe Dr. Emmet Brown before I’d believe this guy!

Gunga Din
August 4, 2022 2:37 pm

Why does this guy still have a Government job?
People have been fired for something they put on Facebook!

James Allen
August 4, 2022 3:08 pm

I saw a somewhat related post where a “climate data scientist” is raging about all the bad info out there – but he doesn’t fail to swear his allegiance to the anti-denier cause…I guess in case his boss reads his diatribe. Entertaining to watch the sheep eat each other tho – https://janrapan.medium.com/medium-is-a-collection-of-manure-in-the-climate-change-section-c8a080669ccd

Derek Tyburczyk
August 4, 2022 4:34 pm

Ideologues fanatics zealots irrational subjectivists, postmodernists, take your pick. Irrational thoughts and behaviors based on group thinking, moral grandstanding, infected to their core.

Elliot W
August 4, 2022 4:44 pm

Like Greta, he’s on the autism spectrum. A mental illness that you’re not supposed say is a mental illness even though it is.

Fran
August 4, 2022 5:50 pm

Didn’t it used to be women were said to be able to cry on demand?

Kelvin Duncan
August 5, 2022 12:15 am

At least he doesn’t have to wait for the men in white coats to come and take him away, because he is wearing one. (Pretentious nonsense).

Gary Pate
August 5, 2022 12:24 am

Useful idiot

marty
August 5, 2022 1:09 am

As long as he is payed for warning he will be warning on. Pay him for something else!

ozspeaksup
August 5, 2022 4:25 am

sad for his kids with an IYI dad

Stephen W
August 5, 2022 5:12 am

“This is soo bad everyone” – emotional man.

eyesonu
August 5, 2022 12:01 pm

Maybe his momma put too much talcum powder on his ass when he was a baby up through his teens

Stuart Hamish
August 6, 2022 6:31 am

Scientist Rebellion are behaving in the worst tradition of ” activist science ” ……Appeal to emotion and appeal to consensus are not science Nor is apocalyptic prophecy ……This NASA climatologist is a brainwashed automaton

stuntparrot
August 7, 2022 4:51 pm

And we’re supposed to respect NASA when it spawns nutjobs like this?

Matthew Sykes
August 8, 2022 8:10 am

Hahahaha, What a baby!

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