Morano & Monkton engaged in a vigorous two-on-two debate with a moderator at the ‘Green Davos’ summit in London. They condemned the World Economic Forum and UN agenda of collapsing agriculture, transportation, free speech, and energy. They condemned ESG as a fraud and they got one of their climate activist debaters to publicly admit that the ‘Net Zero’ agenda was the ‘opium of the masses.’ Morano also ripped into Mastercard for sending a VP of ‘Sustainability’ to the climate summit to tout the company’s new carbon footprint monitoring card that cuts off your spending when you hit your CO2 max! (Full video of climate/energy debate coming soon)
Watch Morano and Monckton discuss the hit they made at the conference on the Mark Steyn show on GB News. Attendees actually voted to extend Morano and Monckton’s presentation. Another session was voluntarily canceled to make time for them!
Morano: “I was actually quite surprised. First of all — that they invited us. Second of all — that they held strong. We were attacked in the media as ‘noxious and odious deniers.’ Now Christopher and I debated. I wanted to be Mr. Noxious. He wanted to be Mr. Odious. But then we switched back and forth. But this(& cancellations of speakers) is what the organizers of the event withstood. And what was shocking, is the audience voted to extend our debate by 15 minutes. One of the panelists following us on carbon accounting voluntarily gave up his slot so we could go longer because we were such a fan favorite. And afterward, I was approached by people saying I’m a conservative I’m a Libertarian and I don’t go along with this agenda. It’s more than social acceptance these are entrepreneurs, these are the investor class and they are trying to cash in — if you will– on the mandates and green subsidies. So they’re more than happy to go along with this agenda.”
By: Marc Morano – Climate Depot
Friend,
CFACT’s Marc Morano joined Lord Christopher Monckton to debunk global warming propaganda at the Global Investment in Sustainable Development conference in London.
Climate campaigners tried hard to stop them from speaking, but failed.
The conference billed as a “Green Davos,” is an opportunity for investors to cash in on the UN’s upcoming COP27 climate conference in Egypt.
The forum took place despite U.K. Climate Minister Graham Stuart withdrawing his keynote speech, and Dr. Aaron Thierry (pictured above with his hand glued to a building in protest of carbon) pulling out of a debate.
Watch Morano and Monckton discuss the hit they made at the conference on the Mark Steyn show on GB News. Attendees actually voted to extend Morano and Monckton’s presentation. Another session was voluntarily canceled to make time for them!
Morano and Monckton told Mark Steyn that business leaders continually came up to them at the conference and told them that they privately absolutely agree with them. They keep up the climate alarm pretense for political, social and financial reasons. CFACT has experienced this for years.
Global warming propaganda never holds up when confronted in an honest forum. That is why the Left never ceases working to stifle debate and suppress facts that correct the record on climate.
Watch Morano and Monckton now.
Business leaders are well aware that the Left is lying on climate. As Lord Monckton said, “the cracks are
starting to show.”
For nature and people too,
Morano on Monckton join Mark Steyn – GB News in London
No Debate Allowed?!
Debate opponent withdraws as UK Climate Minister cancels attendance
Read the facts at CFACT’s Climate Depot
CFACT’s Morano calls out London climate debate dodgers on OANTV
Oh please, please can we have these two have a debate in Australia against our local doomsayers. Maybe against Tim Flannery and Mike Cannon-Brookes? We badly need some climate sanity within our ranks.
I agree with your sentiments Aussiecol, but we need to debate the science related issues with serious climate alarmist scientists, such as Karoly and someone from the CSIRO/BoM, not ecologists and financiers, who don’t know any details only the vibe.
A separate debate on real environmental and energy issues could also be a possibility with these other activist proponents, but first we need to knock down the alarmist IPCC claims that are the basis for the Net Zero nonsense and current renewable energy debacle!
“we need to debate the science related issues with serious climate alarmist scientists”
That may not be the best way: if investors, the public, and the media start to jump ship, then funding for the science will dry up and it will wither of itself.
More often than not the climate scamsters cry, and kick, moan and scream and then run away yelping with their tails between their legs whenever faced with the possibility of having their views challenged by knowledgeable skeptics in live public forums. Two of them did this time, claiming they could not share a podium with such “climate deniers”.
Kudos to Max Studennikoff, the organiser of the forum, for standing firm against the hate- filled climate Communists, mostly “journalists”, who so hate free speech that they put him under viciously intense pressure to silence us. He firmly told them that Britain was a free-speech nation. It was a very good debate, and the audience of Green entrepreneurs loved the debate, regardless of which side they were on.
I have posted a link to this article on several blogs and “community forum” sites that encourage debate on Climate Science. The resident “Climate Crisis” Trolls are approaching “Stage IV Monckton and Morano Derangement Syndrome,” but the faithful are enjoying one of their best days of this miserable “Global Reset” year. Keep advancing the flag.
“The cracks are beginning to show.”
I’d say gaping fissures in the AGW foundations are visibly growing:
WRT Biden: I still don’t get why his release of 15 million barrels of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, announced today, ranks as any kind of news, let alone moves the needle at the pump as the media claim. If he’s trying to drive up prices, why deplete the SPR to historically low levels? U.S. uses 20 million barrels of oil a day, but can produce more than that if it’s allowed to fire on all cylinders. So depleting the reserve seems like not just a hollow gesture, but stupid attempt to convince people that he’s “doing something” for the economic crisis he’s creating by impairing production and leases.
It should be news because he shouldn’t be draining the SPR. He shouldn’t be selling it to foreign countries. This is a problem he created. Not any national emergency.
“So depleting the reserve seems like not just a hollow gesture, but stupid attempt to convince people that he’s “doing something” for the economic crisis he’s creating by impairing production and leases.”
That’s exactly what he’s doing. Trying to make it appear he is doing something constructive about gasoline prices.
Biden did say something surprising today. He said he wanted increased U.S. oil production! He said we can do that and still meet his NutZero goals.
I would be surprised if Biden did anything to increase oil supply other than calling for more of it.
If Biden really wanted to increase oil supplies, he should start up the pipeline projects he killed when he first came into office. One of those pipelines could add 800,000 barrels of oil a day coming into the U.S. out of Canada.
I don’t think Biden is serious about increasing U.S. oil supplies. He’s just lying like he always does.
To be fair, Biden made it quite clear during his Presidential campaign he intended to destroy the US Oïl and Gas sector.
Biden wants the oil companies to wave their magic wand and pump more oil out of existing wells. Our pResident hasn’t been in contact with reality for awhile now.
Think in strategic terms.
The SPR is a strategic oil tank when other sources run dry and the defense of America are in order.
A drained SPR, drained continuously in piddling amounts per drop, but the SPR is draining.
Almost as if some country is planning on attacking when we are weakest?
China owns most of our politicians – not to mention farmland. Gates also owns hugh amounts of acreage. I wonder what they have in mind but China Joe and his compadres don’t care so long as the Big Guy gets his 10%.
The moron tried to claim that ‘politics has nothing to do’ with releasing oil from the strategic reserve. Also, if you noticed, he has the classic old codger lip smacking going on now.
He’s only doing it now because the mid-term predictions are bleak for his agenda. Basically he wants gas prices to come down – even if it’s just a little bit – to convince voters that he and his party really REALLY know what they are doing; this time. Won’t work.
Perhaps the long-term goal is to empty the reserve, so that there is no way to bail us out of a middle-east short fall (its intended purpose), and we are forced to accept the alternative unreliable, ‘renewables.’
A colder world is a real problem.We can’t irrigate with ice.Shorter growing seasons creates famine.Frozen arable land is a real problem.CO2 can’t grow plants on frozen earth.
Change the narrative. Fear sells.
Yes, cold is to be feared. Huge germs negligible benefits.
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Huge harms, negligible benefits.
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I think that huge germs would also produce negligible benefits.
#2 can be problematic via floods.
Floods can be predicted.
The rest are boons, great benefits from anthropogenic release of CO2.
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You know that, and I know that, but as I persistently maintain, the vast majority of the general public do not understand the first thing about science.
They read their daily propaganda in the NYT or watch the BBC and they believe everything they read and see there.
For 50 years we have been promoting science as the responsible way of looking at climate change, and where has it got us?
To the point where the globalist WEF moved in because they recognised the power of propaganda and we’re now not only facing a global energy crisis, we are staring down the barrel of the great reset.
Science is not the answer to propaganda.
Yes, we have turned the corner with empirical climate science in the ascendancy at last. But we have to keep pushing the envelope to persuade the majority of scientists, then the public that there is no climate crisis, except of our own making due to our failing mitigation policies that cannot in any case affect the climate. The politics on global climate are horrendous, however, as the cost of living goes up for the masses, they will take more notice of relevant issues and become more sceptical of the alarmist cause and will vote accordingly.
Can’t wait for the midterms in the US and others in Europe!
11. Land area of Maldives has remained approximately 300 sq. km. for the last 60 years.
Rud,
Add 11. “Greta Thunberg breaks ranks with German Green Party and urges Germany not to shut down nuclear power plants.”
And add that the reality of getting near to net zero, let alone realise it, is becoming slimmer as the resources (minerals and conversion energy) just does not exist in planet earth as a number of studies are pointing out. Add to that the critical minerals needed by the USA and other western nations to at least have a defence capability are controlled by China, an avowed enemy!
“Cracks are starting to show” and it’s not plumbers butt.
That’s a Dagenham Cleavage, where I’m from.
I had to look that up.
Monckton and Morano are the Dynamic Duo and we need them to debate in Australia to wake up the sleeping Climateers and Politicians.
Yes. A fearsome couple of adversaries.
And after visiting Australia can they come to New Zealand and for a similar debate. Our wo(ke)ful PM needs a reality check. Actually she needs more than that, but I have to be polite!
“The forum took place despite U.K. Climate Minister Graham Stuart withdrawing his keynote speech, and Dr. Aaron Thierry (pictured above with his hand glued to a building in protest of carbon) pulling out of a debate.”
Neither of these two peoples behavior is surprising to me. The one, a follows the wind for votes politician, and the other, so completely indebted to his Extinction Rebellion activist fervor that as an adult he would glue one of his hands to one of the the windows at BEIS (the U.K. Department for Business, Energy, & Industrial Strategy) all the while claiming,”to have tried everything, all the rational, normal, evidence-based policy approaches” to steer government towards ending UK energy independence and any new oil or gas production/development.
I can’t be the only one having a good laugh at Thierry’s farcical protest of a relationship between Extinction Rebellion and “all the rational, normal, evidence-based policy approaches” they’ve offered to throw the UK back into the dark ages. 🤣🤣🤣
With a petroleum based glue………
“The cracks are beginning to show” for the ESG crowd, too, as UBS
downgraded Blackrock for political risk as its managed assets did
worse than the market. Several states have pulled funds from Blackrock
investments & are investigating a potential conflict of interest
between supporting ESG & a fiduciary responsibility to their clients.
Several states are also investigating six large US banks & their
involvement in the UN’s “Net-Zero Banking Alliance”, which they
say is “killing” US companies.
Given all the shenanigans of several major US financial entities
before the Great Recession, only one third-tier official was convicted
of wrongdoing. Unfortunately, the MSM, as well as gubmint officials,
will help ESG promoters continue to rewrite their involvement in
ESG to escape culpability, too, as that’s what usually happens
(Larry Fink has already claimed that he was always against Scope
3 emissions caps).
As Steven Hayward put it:
“ESG will likely start to fade from public view, and eventually the left
will come up with some new term replete with with its own jargon and
imaginary concepts. And as before, craven and gullible business leaders
will fall for it, and the cycle will repeat itself.”
https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/13/as-energy-interests-clash-corporate-americas-green-dream-is-stuck-between-blackrock-and-a-hard-place/
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/19-states-investigate-major-us-banks-pushing-esg-policies-killing-american-companies
The Pipeline (Steven Hayward)-
As ‘ESG’ Falters, the Left Seeks to Rebrand 13 Oct, 2022
““The cracks are beginning to show” for the ESG crowd, too, as UBS
downgraded Blackrock for political risk as its managed assets did
worse than the market. Several states have pulled funds from Blackrock
investments & are investigating a potential conflict of interest
between supporting ESG & a fiduciary responsibility to their clients.”
I have noticed lately that Blackrock has been running a lot of advertisements prmoting itself in the last few weeks. They have never done this before to my knowledge.
I guess the heat is on them enough that they think they have to go public and tell everyone how wonderful Blackrock is.
Well whoever runs Blackrock’s Energy and Resources Income Trust seems to have some understanding. In their interim report, 31st May 2022, is the following
‘Materials intensity of lower carbon electricity generation’
One 100MW natural gas fired turbine requires
300 tonnes of iron ore
2000 tonnes of concrete
100 tonnes of specialty metals and minerals
and is approximately the size of a residential house
Wind Turbines for an equivalent output require
30,000 tonnes of iron ore
50,000 tonnes of concrete
1000 tonnes of specialty metals and minerals
900 tonnes of non recyclable plastic
and twenty 500 foot wind turbines on 10 square miles of land
Thats assuming 24/7 power output for the wind turbines but we all know that is not true , the true figure from around the world is Max 35% of nameplate output whereas gas turbines can run 24/7 with max output for at least 90-95% of time . So to equal a gas fired plant total kw/hr output you would need 3 times the nameplate output for the wind generation and that assumes huge battery storage or some other fueled backup when no wind blowing .
You are right, of course, but I guess they didn’t want to get into that amount of complexity for what was essentially a report on how the finances were going.
The facts and figures are useful, however.
“the company’s new carbon footprint monitoring card that cuts off your spending when you hit your CO2 max”
This must be the most draconian policy every proposed in the modern era, but the irony here is that if implemented it would have a far greater impact on the types of people attending the climate conference, along with their inner city and wealthy elite fan club. People such as Gore and Obama would receive lifetime bans 10x over for their excess.
But, of course the only real outcome of the Mastercard move would be a massive exodus to Visa, AMEX or a move back to cash and Mastercard would go bust overnight. In fact, now that Mastercard have even mentioned this, i’m cancelling mine in protest and I encourage others to follow.
Surely Mastercard should cut off their own spending because of the amount of oil they use to produce their credit cards?
If they implement that I guarantee it will finish the same way as the Paypal saga.
The big plan is to do away with cash altogether…. RESIST!!
Thanks for the reminder.
I had been away; home now, and PalPay account closed.
They can threaten as much as they like, shan’t go back.
Ner-nerr-ner-nerr-nehr.
Auto, feeling all grown-up!
Cash Fridays!
Morano and Monckton, two brave souls
Indeed.
Once they’ve finished beating up the delusional, can we have Viscount Monckton for Prime Minister and put Sooty, Sweep and Sue (et al) back in their boxes?
Soo – possibly?
Auto
Sorry to be OT as usual, but… let them freeze…
NJ sues oil, gas companies alleging they deceived public over climate change
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/environment/2022/10/18/nj-sues-oil-and-gas-companies-alleging-climate-change-deceipt/69570982007/
The state of modern journalism.. “deceit sounds like receipt so I’ll force that silent p in there even though my spellchecker flags it up”..
Notice the source of this article: Marc Morano, So this is Marc Morano, praising Marc Morano. Just the sort of clear headed objectivity I expect. Also, why is this characterised as a debate? They were, so far as I can tell, just making their usual statements. And again, boasting about running the “Climate Depot” website, is like boasting you got a D minus in web design and an F in effective propaganda (Hint, making yourself the hero of your own website may not be the best idea)
Jealous much?
Stew in it.
Because it was advertised as a debate between Morano, Monckton, U.K. Climate Minister Graham Stuart & Dr. Aaron Thierry.
Did you not read the article?
Forgive my foolishness. I thought a debate was where two opposing points of view present their case. Apparently, in Watts Up land, its two of your heroes presenting their point of view. I stand corrected.
The ‘debate’ was at the Global Investment in Sustainable Development conference in London where opposing points of view were presented.
It’s not, as you foolishly believed, Morano and Monckton appearing on Mark Steyn’s show. That’s what’s known as an interview.
Had the opposition not cried off, they would have lost the debate, which is why they cried off.
Your foolishness is not forgiven
No.
“Why not ?” you may ask in response ?
Because it is completely irrelevant.
Two quotes by Richard Feynman may help you start down the path to enlightenment.
Tony, please supply links to other responses to the debate of which you approve.
“Mastercard for sending a VP of ‘Sustainability’ to the climate summit to tout the company’s new carbon footprint monitoring card that cuts off your spending when you hit your CO2 max! “
With a 5 minute search I found nothing of this. Mastercard is trying to make the cards from “sustainable” materials. If the former, I would not have such a card. If the latter, I don’t really care.
Get rid of the hard plastic — throw away — pill bottles. The velocity of these is 30 to 90 days. Credit cards often last for 3 years.
It is the 2nd time I’ve read about MC tracking CO₂ purchases. Only one of which was on WUWT.
And you performed a real hard internet search? Using ‘we control what you see’ google?
https://www.technocracy.news/credit-card-cuts-off-spending-when-you-reach-your-co2-limit/
It’s been around since 2019.
https://www.mastercard.com/news/europe/sv-se/nyhetsrum/pressmeddelanden/sv-se/2019/april/do-black-the-world-s-first-credit-card-with-a-carbon-limit/
You might want to change your search engine.
“With a 5 minute search I found nothing of this.”
John, I call bullshit. a couple second search on bing and duckduckgo both have, as their the 2nd hit, an article specifically about mastercard’s DO Black card that cut’s spending when you hit your CO2 max (their first hit is about the related carbon calculator tool, which is the feature that the DO Black mastercard uses to determine when to cut off spending). a couple second search on google, gave it on the 4th hit (the first 3 being about the related carbon calculator tool).
If it can be found in less than a minute on all the major search engines, then you clearly did not do any such “5 minute” search. And if you still insist you did, then you should hang your head in shame for being so incompetent at searching.
Neeva Search brought up this
Doconomy, a Swedish fin-tech startup for everyday climate action, has worked with Mastercard to develop this radical tool for consumers wanting to act against climate change. DO also invites the user to offset their carbon foot print through projects meeting the criteria of United Nations certified green projects. Simply put, the first card ever to prevent consumers from exceeding their limit, not based on credit, but on levels of CO2 emissions caused by their consumption.
https://www.mastercard.com/news/europe/sv-se/nyhetsrum/pressmeddelanden/sv-se/2019/april/do-black-the-world-s-first-credit-card-with-a-carbon-limit/
Schmidt, mann, Jones, goreby and many others are now suffering horrendous nightmares of being chained and dragged onto the public stage.
That would be great political theater, but these people have learnt not to debate the science with sceptics and climate realists. They hide behind their peer-pal mates in academia.
And not a single mention by the BBC or Sky “news”
#misleadia
Thank you Mr. Noxious and Lord Odious, or was it the other way round! Anyway, looking forward to seeing the actual debate, I guess with the moderator. When your opponent doesn’t show up, you win by default. The Climatists know they can’t win. All they can do is lie, deflect, and run away. It’s their MO.
I don’t mind that they won’t see this comment, but I place Tony Watts and all the contributors to this site along with Craig Rucker and Marc Morano and Lord Christopher Monckton and too many others to name in the same category with those of us who served in the military and all who have served in Law Enforcement and as First Responders…and even the founders of the United States. We have risked everything for our principles and to leave a better world for our descendants, and we have never backed away from a fight as Morano and Monckton just demonstrated without hesitation before the world.
We are an amalgamation of unique individuals, melded together in the crucible of conflicts past and present and bonded by duty, honor, sacrifice, blood, love of family and love of country. More so than through any other community, the associations and friendships formed through the military and law enforcement and firefighters and other emergency responders and even scientists who are not afraid to enter the ring and take on all Pseudo-science opponents and corrupt politicians are lifelong, and we mourn the loss of our comrades until we rejoin them again someday in formation in Heaven.
Sadly, politicians and historians do not understand, let alone share, our code of conduct and ethics. Perhaps someday they will learn if they have the courage and will to seek the truth and report it honestly and accurately. We are now engaged in a struggle for the soul and survival of civilization. This IS a “Hill to Die On.”
“The fate of good men who refuse to become involved in politics is to be ruled by evil men.” ~ Edmund Burke
Thank you I needed to hear that. We live in a world that increasingly not only does not value those things but seems to despise them.
it’s good to remember that it still matters
at least to us.