Stop Medical Testing to Stop Climate Change

Cutting down vitamin D tests could help lower carbon cost of healthcare

From The National Tribune

HT/David Archibald

More ridiculous counting of angels dancing on the head of pins from nitwits searching every corner of human activity for the dreaded carbon footprint.

Unnecessary vitamin D testing in Australia is costing our health care system up to $87 million and creating a significant carbon footprint which otherwise could be avoidable, says researchers.

Unnecessary vitamin D testing in Australia is costing our healthcare system up to $87 million and is contributing to the sector’s significant but avoidable carbon footprint, say researchers.

A study examining the climate impact of low-value healthcare activity in Australia has found that unnecessary vitamin D tests generated carbon emissions equivalent to a car driving from Sydney to Perth 59 times.

The researchers say in 2020 unnecessary vitamin D tests in Australia cost the healthcare system over $87 million (AUD) and had a carbon footprint of 28,000 to 42,000 kilograms of carbon dioxide equivalent emissions (kg CO2e).

The carbon footprint from vitamin D tests was calculated from the embedded emissions in the blood collection equipment such as needles, syringes and glass tubes. They have to be manufactured, distributed and disposed of, all of which generates carbon emissions.

Reducing unnecessary vitamin D tests could help lower the carbon footprint of healthcare in the country.

https://www.nationaltribune.com.au/cutting-down-vitamin-d-tests-could-help-lower-carbon-cost-of-healthcare/

David noted in his tip to WUWT:

Vitamin D blood tests in Australia produce 37 tonnes per annum of CO2. This is reason enough to reduce their environmental load. A 787 flying from Australia to London nonstop will produce 270 tonnes of carbon dioxide.

From the article. It’s worse than we thought/think/imagine

Carbon costs most likely an ‘underestimate’

The researchers say the estimate of carbon emissions and costs from unnecessary vitamin D tests in Australia is most likely an underestimation. The analysis used Medicare records, which means tests not covered by Medicare were not included in their calculations.

https://www.nationaltribune.com.au/cutting-down-vitamin-d-tests-could-help-lower-carbon-cost-of-healthcare/

Read the full article here.

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Tom Halla
September 5, 2022 2:06 pm

Anything more advanced than living in a mud hut and cooking over dried cow pats is unclean to a proper green.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 5, 2022 3:58 pm

Even then, climate change won’t stop. If for some bizarre reason the climate ever stops changing, then we’re in real trouble.

Bryan A
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 5, 2022 10:52 pm

So long as Vitamin D deficiency is a possibility, testing of levels need to be carried out. Vitamin D is necessary to build and maintain strong bones.
Vitamin D deficiency causes osteoporosis (thin brittle bones) in older people and rickets (weak and bendable bones) in children.
Vitamin D levels must be monitored in these individuals to aid in their treatments.

This argument is as silly as complaining about the carbon footprint involved in diagnosing and treating any other disease.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Bryan A
September 6, 2022 3:39 am

imagine the “footprint” of all the RAT tests and the power running the labs for the dodgybrothers “proper” tests, millions of them, funny that didnt rate mention isnt it?

MarkH
Reply to  ozspeaksup
September 6, 2022 11:36 pm

I remember adding it up a while ago. Each PCR test is billed on Medicare at $80. In Victoria alone there has been over 20 million tests done… that’s ~$1.6 billion for the children of all Victorians to pay for. That just the PCR testing, look at other measures like cleaning. The amount spent on cleaning just trams in Victoria went from $8 million to over $30 million per year. Next year the budget is over $40 million.

There are guaranteed to be so many rorts that the rorts will have rorts on them. This money isn’t free, it’s lost opportunity cost and money stolen from the future. It will take generations to recover from this, if we ever do.

Editor
Reply to  Bryan A
September 6, 2022 8:41 am

It is EASY to prevent vitamin D by just getting out in the sun and eat vitamin D rich food which is easy and even take the Cod liver oil supplement which is easy.

Lifestyle decisions is the major factor in having enough Vitamin D going to a doctor is indeed a waste of time for most people.

dmacleo
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 6, 2022 10:29 am

not that easy for some. hemochromatosis (genetic mutation) maybe involved.

Editor
Reply to  dmacleo
September 6, 2022 11:00 am

False since it has nothing to do with Vitamin D levels in the body and not difficult to treat but it requires diagnosis to find it first.

Edited to state that I meant Vitamin D isn’t difficult to treat but does require a doctor to diagnose it.

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dmacleo
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 6, 2022 11:48 am

ok I’ll take your word over hemotologists and oncologists I deal with lately.
nice to know you’re an expert in high ferritin I can call upon for free anytime.

Editor
Reply to  dmacleo
September 6, 2022 5:08 pm

Notice that you never backed up your “opinion” while I was a patient for a year about blood disorders which included low iron levels and undersized blood cells had to read up to help to get better along with a 20-year Hematologist doctor who for a while was very worried about me.

KcTaz
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 6, 2022 12:56 pm

It is not as easy as you think. There are multiple studies worldwide thanks to Covid that show a strong correlation between Vit D levels and Covid severity. 
Many things affect Vit D levels. Living above the 35th parallel is one. Skin color is another. Darker-skinned people have much greater difficulty getting enough Vit. D from the sun. That was an evolutionary trade-off for protecting humans from the bad effects of too much sun but now that dark-skinned people live in places that are not sunny, they have lower Vit D levels.
Cultural habits are another. Arabs (Muslims) in Israel per several Israeli studies have much lower levels than others in Israel due to women covering most of their bodies when outside the home and Arab men and women do, also, due to their dietary habits which are low in fish and meat. They have much poorer Covid outcomes than non-Arabs, too.
Even for light-skinned people, it can be difficult to get enough Vit D from the sun as sunscreen lotion blocks the Vit. D from being absorbed.
Scandinavian countries, even though they have a diet rich in fish, supplement Vid. D via their healthcare system for much of the year outside of summer as they have little to no sunshine for months.
People in nursing homes, or care facilities, or those with chronic illnesses who are at the greatest risk from Covid (and other respiratory diseases,) rarely get enough sunshine. I supervised my hospital’s Respiratory program in nursing homes for a number of years. Other than the smokers, it was rare to see the residents outside in sunny times of the year and never in winter, except, again for the smokers. Also, frequently, the elderly consume fewer calories on the whole from my non-scientific observations. The elderly, with some exceptions, are not noted for being big eaters.
I have saved multiple studies on this because I was interested as I am a retired Respiratory Therapist and because I was born a redhead and, though my hair is gray now, my skin is still that of a redhead. I burn very easily and avoid the sun.
I will be happy to post links to studies on this if you desire.

Editor
Reply to  KcTaz
September 6, 2022 5:14 pm

I have two brothers who are Red haired, and they never have any problems with their health heck they are the only ones who still have a head full of hair while the other four brothers are balding me the least, but I am the youngest at 62.

I had a job that had me outdoors all day long for most of the year it was easy for me to get enough vitamin D and at the 46th latitude.

I am mainly talking from the American point of view in a blog in America in English never meant to include the entire world.

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KcTaz
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 6, 2022 7:36 pm

I am speaking from the American point of view, as well. I included other nations which are far sunnier to demonstrate that even in the ME and other sunny locals, people can suffer from low D levels. As I said, dark-skinned people in the northern latitudes are at a distinct disadvantage in being able to get Vit. D from the sun.
Regarding red hair, I, also, have two redheaded brothers, a sister-in-law with red hair, and two nieces and a nephew with red hair. I would say you are very fortunate to have been able to work outside and not burn. Neither myself nor any of my relatives with red hair can do that. You are the exception, not the rule and you are very lucky.
I never said that one with red hair is unhealthy. I am in my 70s and take exactly one prescription med and it’s the same one I’ve taken for years, long before I got old. I consider myself blessed. 
If I did not make myself clear in my first post, I apologize. I do hope this clears up any issues with that post.

Weylan Ray McAnally
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 6, 2022 3:28 pm

To get the minimum production of natural Vit D, a caucasian must be outdoors in full sun for 45 minutes, with minimal clothing and no sunscreen each day between noon and 2pm. Those with darker pigmentation will need 1 to 1.25 hours. That is for summer months.

For most latitudes, there are only 3 months where adequate sunlight is available for minimum Vit D production. Most folks spend less than 10 minutes in the sunlight each day. They travel from one air conditioned pod to another in full clothing.

Nearly every person in the US and EU needs Vit D supplementation.

Editor
Reply to  Weylan Ray McAnally
September 6, 2022 5:02 pm

Yes, that is a reasonable opinion.

I eat fish and take cod liver oil mostly in the fall to springtime frame.

TonyG
Reply to  Weylan Ray McAnally
September 7, 2022 6:41 am

“outdoors in full sun for 45 minutes”
For.some.people.that.is.a.problem..Consider.autoimmune.disorders..My.wife.can’t.take.that.much.sun.without.getting.sick..

4E Douglas
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 5, 2022 4:29 pm

Unless you are lucky to live in the Big House by the sea.

Gerry, England
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 6, 2022 3:42 am

No cow pats as the ecoloons don’t like cows either.

Bryan A
Reply to  Gerry, England
September 6, 2022 6:29 am

But they might become necessary if industrialized fertilizer production is halted. BS is the only viable alternative to feed a growing society.

Well that could also mean a bigger government, they produce massive amounts of BS.

Hmmm…z
Perhaps a smaller society is in order (at least that’s what THEY want)…

Gryunt Monglaar
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 6, 2022 5:47 pm

They’re getting closer to the truth with the Vitamin D thing: Living in itself is an affront to Gaia so die, carbon-based scum!

Richard Brown
September 5, 2022 2:06 pm

The levels of stupidity have reached a new low……

ColA
Reply to  Richard Brown
September 5, 2022 3:34 pm

And how much carbon did The National Tribune waste posting this useless diatribe of climate diarrhea?
These pathetic cr*p repeaters wouldn’t know a real news item if it jumped up and bit them on the ear!!

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Richard Brown
September 5, 2022 3:59 pm

Don’t you mean a new high? Low levels of stupidity are a good thing, no?

Joe
Reply to  Richard Brown
September 5, 2022 7:48 pm

Generally, I just love low levels of stupidity. Bring on the low levels of stupidity!

Gerry, England
Reply to  Richard Brown
September 6, 2022 3:43 am

I don’t know about the ‘anthropocene’ but we certainly seem to be in the ‘retardocene’.

rho
Reply to  Gerry, England
September 6, 2022 6:11 pm

That is the most accurate description of the idiot-child planned climate that I’ve read yet. Retardocene. Needs to get wide – spread distribution.

KcTaz
Reply to  rho
September 6, 2022 7:41 pm

I agree but I’m pretty sure anything containing “retard” is verboten these days. Unfortunately, Mentaldisabilityocene just doesn’t cut it.

KcTaz
Reply to  Richard Brown
September 6, 2022 12:57 pm

Yep. Just when you think people can’t get any dumber, they go and prove you wrong.

OldGreyGuy
September 5, 2022 2:12 pm

Shades of Brave New World, who decides if a test for Vitamin D (presumably D3) levels is unnecessary? Since a Doctor orders these tests I would have assumed that they would be the best to decide if these tests are necessary or not.

Since D3 is essential for boosting the immune system and a good level will help prevent the patient from catching unnecessary colds and flu. Especially in a winter cold and flu season.

Perhaps these researchers would also feel the same way about people testing for Covid-19? My figures accumulated from our state health services daily reporting show the average rate of people who tested positive to be between 9 to 22 percent depending on the various waves and as thousands of these tests are done every day then obviously many would meet their criteria of unnecessary. Or would they?

Rud Istvan
Reply to  OldGreyGuy
September 5, 2022 3:07 pm

Not to mention bone formation. Why D is added to children’s milk.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 6, 2022 3:41 am

and rickets is appearing in the uk again prior and during covid
gee i wonder why? low nutrient sodas plastic cheeses and no outdoors play

Reply to  OldGreyGuy
September 5, 2022 11:07 pm

Ah,covidiocy, the real issue at hand!
Next Up:The despicable carbon footprint of Ivor McTain and his interference with Hydrassic Infections.
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KcTaz
Reply to  cilo
September 6, 2022 1:00 pm

Webmaster,somepageshaveanoddfaultwiththecommentssection.
I have that issue in Firefox but not in Safari. Go figure.

Russell Johnson
September 5, 2022 2:24 pm

c’mon blokes you’re full of dunky dust!

Shoki Kaneda
September 5, 2022 2:25 pm

Climatistas represent an enormous source of deadly CO2. Worse, it is very hot, exacerbating the existential crisis. Eliminating these dangerous emitters would go a long way toward a utopian, carbonless future.

Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
September 5, 2022 6:44 pm

Presumable you are being sarcastic. There is nothing deadly about normal atmospheric CO2 or even 10X ‘normal’. The OSHA limit for continuous exposure is 5000 ppmv.

Philip CM
Reply to  Dan Pangburn
September 5, 2022 7:27 pm

Very, very difficult to sow fear of atmospheric CO2 among the ignorant masses with a number like that, 5000 ppm/over eight hours. Might as well ask them to count all the stars in a given quadrant of the night sky. 😏😁

ScarletMacaw
September 5, 2022 2:53 pm

Rarely is blood tested for just one item. Probably well over 99% of the testing materials would have had to been manufactured in any case.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  ScarletMacaw
September 5, 2022 3:09 pm

Why let reality intrude on a ‘scary’ non-story written by innumerates?

Reply to  ScarletMacaw
September 6, 2022 5:16 am

Vitamin D level is not included in the standard blood test
I ask my doctor for it to be included.
He forgot last time
In October I’ll remind him again
I have been taking Vit D supplements for over 50 years
The test is useful for me

My vitamin D level was too high a year ago when I had doubled my intake to prevent Covid. No side effects but a high blood level.
Vitamin D is my vaccine, along with Vitamin C, zinc and quercetin.
I did reduce my vitamin D supplements by 3/4 a year ago
The pandemic is over, so it does not matter much now.

Sunshine is better for Vitamin D but some of us sunburn and get skin cancer
My age and health problems make me a high risk for Covid, along with the wife, who is taking the same supplements. So far we’ve had no Covid, no Omicron, no influenza (ever) and no common colds in many years.

KcTaz
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 6, 2022 1:02 pm

Same here, Richard.

David L. Hagen
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 7, 2022 4:25 pm

Vitamin D gives 67%, 48%, 29% improvement against Covid19 for early, late, and prophylactic treatment, based on 89 treatment studies. Details at Vitamin D for COVID-19: real-time analysis of all 300 studies (c19vitamind.com)
More meds reviewed for Covid19 effectiveness at COVID-19 early treatment: real-time analysis of 2,088 studies (c19early.com)

Gregory Woods
September 5, 2022 2:53 pm

Read the full article here.
Thanks, but no thanks…

Citizen Smith
September 5, 2022 2:59 pm

$87,000,000 with a population of 25 million!?!? That’s a lot of needles or a symptom of free health care.. Doesn’t pass the sniff test.

Greg61
Reply to  Citizen Smith
September 5, 2022 4:00 pm

Doctors likely get to bill based on asking for and looking at the results of the tests. D test would be harmless to the patient and generates income for the doctors?

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Greg61
September 6, 2022 3:44 am

bill to see doc tests are private labs in aus anyway so charged HIGH
and then yes often a follow up charged visit unless youve got a decent doc will phone follow up lower charges to medicare or you

KcTaz
Reply to  ozspeaksup
September 6, 2022 1:05 pm

I have a decent doc but I live in the US, so that may not apply to your situation. She just calls me or sends me the report.

KcTaz
Reply to  Greg61
September 6, 2022 1:04 pm

But docs don’t do the blood tests, labs do, at least in the US, so I fail to see how docs make money from this.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Citizen Smith
September 5, 2022 4:02 pm

I think you meant “free”.

Rud Istvan
September 5, 2022 3:00 pm

This one is personal. We live in South Florida. Lots of sunshine producing vitamin D.
NOT. Thanks to fear of skin cancer, 1/3 of Floridians are vit D deficient due to cover up and sunscreen!
My significant other was clinically diagnosed as severely deficient, as she has a hereditary/Sun caused skin condition diagnosed as senile pupera, an aging disease of the connective tissue between the derma and underlying muscle. Resulted in random purple ‘bruising’, and now as it progresses full bleeding arm skin lesions. So she religiously covers up, slathers, and so became severely vit D deficient. 2000 IUD/day vit D supplements. No global warming impacts.
When warmunists are grasping at such slender small straws, you know skeptics are winning and alarmists have created mass psychosis amongst the otherwise well educated..
.

OldGreyGuy
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 5, 2022 3:18 pm

Exactly, we are in Qld Australia and roughly the same distance from the equator in the southern part of the state as Florida is. We have the same issue, many hide from the sun for reasons of skin Cancer and many of our elderly also end up being Vit D deficient.

Hope your SO finds help with the supplements.

Speed
September 5, 2022 3:09 pm

What about methane?

While carbon dioxide is more abundant and longer-lived, methane – the main component of natural gas – is far more effective at trapping heat while it lasts. Over the first two decades after its release, methane is more than 80 times more potent than carbon dioxide in terms of warming the climate system.

https://bit.ly/3KSmGhF

And one source of methane is the “natural gas” all humans pass one or more times a day. Perhaps these headline-seekers can publish an article pointing out how much methane is passed by the world’s population of bi-pedal mammals while gently suggesting that the world should reduce the number of bi-pedal mammals wandering around. Global warming and all …


Rud Istvan
Reply to  Speed
September 5, 2022 3:26 pm

The old methane trick/s. In the lab in a dry test atmosphere, Methane is much more potent but shorter lasting than CO2. But in the real world with humidity, methane contributes NOTHING, because it’s IR absorption bands are completely covered by water vapor bands.

Speed
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 5, 2022 7:04 pm

Thank you for your comment. My little story about methane was meant to poke fun at the anti-vitamin-D-testers rather than make any real scientific point.

A question … In areas with extremely low humidity (desert?) would there be some methane absorption of IR? And at cold and dry (absolutely dry) high altitudes would there be some IR absorption by methane?

Earthling2
Reply to  Speed
September 6, 2022 12:35 pm

Good question…if CO2 or methane for that matter was a significant potent greenhouse gas, we would see some evidence in Antarctica at the south pole where there is very little water vapor, due to its being a really dry place. The average year round temperature is -49.3 C ( -56 F) and the warmest measurement ever at the south pole (elevation 9,300 feet) was -12.3 C in 2011.

If CO2 and CH4 (methane) had much effect, you would think we would be able to measure it there. But to the best of my knowledge, there has been no warming trend there, although we haven’t had thermometers for long taking temperatures there either. Obviously, Antarctica won’t be melting anytime soon, no matter what happens.

KcTaz
Reply to  Speed
September 6, 2022 1:10 pm

Speed, haven’t you heard? Greatly reducing the number of bi-pedals is all part of The Plan. Some of the NWO/CAGW/WEF types have stated the bi-pedal population needs to be reduced to 500,000 to Save the Planet. That would definitely dwarf all other genocides in history.
I know it’s hard to believe but it’s amazing what these folks are willing to say out loud!

Mac
September 5, 2022 3:16 pm

There is a large prospective study of health professionals done thru Harvard which has been going on for more than 25 years with 25,000 participants to start now about 15K. The studies have looked at diet extensively and published on the benefits of Vit D3. Those and other research show a number of attributes to Vit D3 including reduced colon cancer, breast cancer and of course the positive effects on Covid patients who have high levels.
Vit D is manufactured in the body by exposure to sunlight and of course sun exposure is very beneficial for other reasons as well.

marlene
September 5, 2022 3:23 pm

It’s a steep downward slope of intellectual dishonesty. Of course it can only get worse – if we let the inmates run the asylum.

Diggs
September 5, 2022 3:25 pm

Yep. A new level of stupid achieved. I get Vit D checked regularly, and it is never on its own, but with a batch of other tests. I bet they also have not calculated the carbon footprint saved by proactive healthcare measures that keep people out of hospital and all the benefits that go with that.

How do these lunatics get support for the crap they produce.

September 5, 2022 3:32 pm

Ban, Censor, Eliminate Vitamin D, period!

curly
Reply to  Don Paul
September 5, 2022 5:50 pm

Oviously sarcasm and humor, but…

vit D (d3) has good empirical evidence that it helps reduce symptoms of the dreaded covid-19.

And, now in Cali, doctor speaking the facts about non-approved government “health” dogma, can suffer consequences. Anticipate vit D supplements being outlawed in the Peoples’ Republic soon.

my doc started testing me 10 years ago for the other benefits of sufficient D3 levels, especially here in Northerly latitudes, where most of us are deficient. Researching a little helped me understand.

for you older folks, web search or other search for senescent cell death and telomere length (lengthing)

Litheveder
September 5, 2022 3:37 pm

What do you suppose is the carbon cost of unnecessary climate change research?

Pflashgordon
Reply to  Litheveder
September 6, 2022 2:41 am

Since the science is settled, research on climate change and the supposed effects of climate change (major source of research funding in practically every natural and applied science field) should immediately cease due to its massive carbon footprint.

Not Dan
Reply to  Litheveder
September 6, 2022 2:40 pm

How much carbon pollution could be saved if the computer models for carbon pollution were shut down/turned off. s/

Bob
September 5, 2022 3:47 pm

These people are dumb as rocks and make me sick.

2hotel9
September 5, 2022 3:59 pm

Worshippers of the Earth Mother have always opposed “modern” medicine. Thwarting Her will is a sin.

Philip Mulholland
September 5, 2022 4:31 pm
David Cooke
September 5, 2022 4:51 pm

Australia’s National Tribune has a long and inglorious tradition. In the 1950s it was a Communist Party rag.

R_G
September 5, 2022 4:55 pm

Don’t you know that vitamin D3 is main enemy of the covid fear-porn industries. After all if you have good level of it you will be healthy and very resistant to covid-19. Climate change narrative and covid related mandates/restrictions go hand-in-hand.

D.M. Anderson
September 5, 2022 5:40 pm

Twice I have tried to get a D test from my provider and twice it didn’t happen.

First time at the beginning of Covid I asked a GP to order a test for me. He said he’d never ordered one and didn’t know how to do it. He changed the subject and I didn’t push it.

A couple of weeks ago a cardiologist ordered a panel of blood tests. I asked her to add a D test. She said a note said wasn’t suggested. I said indulge me. She said your insurance probably won’t cover it. I said no problem. She said Ok. The results came back, no Vit D.

What’s going on?

Scissor
Reply to  D.M. Anderson
September 5, 2022 6:45 pm

Try asking for some prophylactic ivermectin.

H.R.
Reply to  Scissor
September 5, 2022 8:26 pm

I just get my Vitamin I from Tractor Supply. The pills would be nice, but the topical solution isn’t a hassle at all.

I have a list on a spread sheet of my meds and vitamins to save writing them all out on forms. I have ‘Ivermectin’ listed; dosage, frequency, and the reason as “Flu Prevention”

Since I added it to the list, I have received zero reaction or comment from two different doctors. 😁 They know.

KcTaz
Reply to  Scissor
September 6, 2022 1:21 pm

My GP in the US won’t give prophylactic ivermectin but she did lay in her own supply to give to her patients if they got Covid symptoms with instructions to call her immediately. She did this to avoid my state’s pharmacists refusing to fill prescriptions for it. 
She has many elderly patients. She had ten get Covid and she gave them Ivermectin. All did great. She only lost one patient, an elderly man who had symptoms for 11 days and only called her while he was in an ambulance on his way to ER. He died. Not my docs fault. 

ozspeaksup
Reply to  D.M. Anderson
September 6, 2022 3:49 am

its NOT a hard to do test , or expensive, they DO need to take the blood and wrap the vial immediately in foil to keep any light out thats the only “hard” part about it
ask for a thyroid test and most labs run T3 fast easier cheaper for them. BUT T4 is the one that gives a better real result of levels, and you DO have to push for that to be done properly

DMacKenzie
Reply to  ozspeaksup
September 6, 2022 7:23 am

So how does it produce 42,000 Kg of CO2 ?

KcTaz
Reply to  D.M. Anderson
September 6, 2022 7:47 pm

I suggest when your blood is drawn, you discuss that with the personnel at the lab and see if you can get it done that way. My doc hands me a lab sheet to take to the lab, so I can see exactly what she ordered. If you can, see if you can do the same.

Alexy Scherbakoff
September 5, 2022 6:16 pm

Pfizer saved a lot of CO2 emissions by not having many tests for their ‘vaccine’.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
September 5, 2022 7:08 pm

Wish I could upvote that a thousand times

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
September 6, 2022 7:27 am

45,000 test volunteers isn’t many tests ?

KcTaz
Reply to  DMacKenzie
September 6, 2022 1:28 pm

They followed them for a very, very short period of time which was heretofore unheard of for a vaccine. All other vaccines took 4 to 15 years before being deemed safe for distribution.
The latest Pfizer booster for Omicron was tested on 8 mice, no humans but was approved. Now, do you see the problem?

Philip CM
Reply to  KcTaz
September 6, 2022 2:39 pm

People still refer to the MRNA spike protein shots as a vaccine, knowing that many, many people who’ve been jabbed twice and boosted twice have gotten covid, and more than once.
This is so regular in fact with covid shots, that it became known as a crisis of the vaccinated.
During these last two years what number of shots are we at now, five? That’s not how vaccines work.

KcTaz
Reply to  DMacKenzie
September 6, 2022 7:53 pm

Besides, from Gates to Birx, these folks are coming clean, I guess due to reality slapping them in the face?
Time to Press Charges: Deborah Birx Failed to Tell the Public What She Knew About the Shots 
https://rumble.com/v1dobzl-time-to-press-charges-deborah-birx-failed-to-tell-the-public-what-she-knew-.html
Video on Twitter
Bill Gates discusses Covid at the Munich Security Conference
https://bit.ly/3J66xU3
Video on Twitter
“Sadly, the virus itself – particularly the variant called Omicron – is a type of vaccine,” said Gates. “That is, it creates both B-cell and T-cell immunity, and it’s done a better job of getting out to the world population than we have with vaccines.”
Also, here.
Bill Gates claims Omicron did a ‘better job’ at spreading immunity to the global population than vaccine distribution
https://bit.ly/34R51Gw
2/19/22

DonM
Reply to  DMacKenzie
September 7, 2022 9:04 am

In the USA alone, there have been 250,000,000 test volunteers.

(minor/significant coercion & misleading propaganda notwithstanding)

Craig from Oz
September 5, 2022 6:47 pm

The extension of this logic is that large amounts of any testing is unnecessary.

Take blood alcohol testing by police. Most drivers return negative results. If you assume that most of the tests are negative and are always going to be negative then you can safely remove them and, clearly, only test drunk people.

Roadside blood alcohol not only has large amounts of vehicles being forced to idle while the test is conducted, but also a police van that sits with a generator running the entire period.

CARBON POLLUTION!!! Clearly.

In fact why test anything at all. Everyone is going to die. Ergo health care for people above the useful working age is clearly a burden and causing CO2. The health system itself could be cut and the workers transferred into new Green Jobs for the Green Economy.

Clearly.

Lets face it, the people who write these sorts of reports are not doing it to expand the greater pool of human knowledge, they are doing it for the attention.

Bryan A
Reply to  Craig from Oz
September 5, 2022 10:59 pm

Soylent Green is People

Gunga Din
September 5, 2022 6:52 pm

Whatever happened carbon offsets?
Just cancel one 787 flight to offset 7 or so years of vitamin D testing.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Gunga Din
September 5, 2022 7:07 pm

They are doing that now, cancelling so many flights every day that we no longer need other cuts or taxes. Air canada alone has cancelled dozens of daily flights.

Hooray the war is over, call it all off

Philip CM
September 5, 2022 7:17 pm

Why so many Vitamin D tests anyhow? If you live above or below 35 degrees latitude you are deficient in vitamin D. That’s pretty much a given.
And the amount of Vitamin D one gets with a multivitamin is next to useless. A stand alone Vitamin D capsule is needed.
Every country has their own pharmacological mins & maximums, so you wont be able to buy anything harmful over the counter where you live.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Philip CM
September 6, 2022 3:54 am

youd be surprised. while recommended govt amt of vitamins exist theyre the barest MINIMUM/traces usually( why docs say they dont work, theyre not intended to!unless youre in serious deficit when anything is a bonus)
recent ramp up of scares of excess vit D and B intakes
when you look further the people took highdose daily OR used multiple supplements that had 50mg or more EACH of B12 for example
and in excess that CAN cause issues
massive vit D can do that too but it requires a BIGGER dose of stupid to manage to do that

September 5, 2022 7:20 pm

This is really dumb. Over half the population is deficient in vit D and worrying about harmless CO2 would make it worse. Deficient usually means  less than 30 ng/ml but even that might be lower than optimum. After taking 7000 IU/day for a long time I tested 65 ng/ml but I’m really old and don’t get out much. Some suggest 2000 IU/day for most people, but should check, too much can also be bad. Here is result of one study: https://www.grassrootshealth.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/disease-incidence-prev-chart-051317.pdf

Bryan A
Reply to  Dan Pangburn
September 5, 2022 11:02 pm

My wife and daughter take 10,000 IU gelcaps daily. Wife takes 50,000 weekly and daughter takes 70,000 weekly. Both now test well within normal ranges. Supplements are wonderful things
Wife has been taking them because of osteoporosis.
Daughter because of gastric bypass surgery

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Reply to  Bryan A
September 6, 2022 5:22 am

That is a lot of Vitamin D supplements for a typical woman
That can harm kidneys, and that’s not good

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Dan Pangburn
September 6, 2022 7:32 am

“…half the population…” Let’s face reality, 95% of the population is “healthy” so the 50% vitamin deficiency meme is just good salesmanship by the UMI, the useless meds industry….

KcTaz
Reply to  DMacKenzie
September 6, 2022 1:35 pm

Uh, no. Not true. Vitamin D3 can be bought in many stores. The UMI has nothing to do with it. 
Multiple studies have proven the benefits of Vitamin D3 supplements, especially, with Covid.
We know dark-skinned people have a difficult time getting enough Vitamin D. Dark-skinned people died from Covid at a higher rate. The CDC blamed, of course, “racism”. They never ever told dark-skinned people to take Vitamin D3 which would have saved lives. Who is the racist?

RickWill
September 5, 2022 8:25 pm

I am not into the details of pathology but I believe Vitamin D testing is one of an array of blood chemistry tests done from a single sample. That means the sampling syringe was not only for the Vitamin D sample.

Since 2015, it has not been recommended that Vitamin D be included in the standard suite of blood tests. This was due to the cost and the accumulated knowledge that the majority of Australians have a Vitamin D deficiency due to the very effective messaging on slip.slop slap over the decades.

It would probably work out lower cost to provide everyone who were concerned with Vitamin D supplements than doing blood tests with a high probability of the known outcome. That said I had my level tested this year in order to determine if I needed supplements. I do not need much sunshine to maintain an adequate blood level.

Reply to  RickWill
September 6, 2022 5:24 am

You have to ask for the optional vitamin D test
Recommended once a year if you take Vitamin D supplements.
And berate your doctor when it does not show up
No extra cost, or a tiny upcharge, from a standard array of blood tests.

Hasbeen
Reply to  RickWill
September 6, 2022 6:49 am

I am on prednisone to control an autoimmune problem, so have regular blood tests to check if I an developing diabetes from this. A Vitamin D test is included.

In south east Queensland I spend a couple of hours a day in shorts gardening, watering & on the ride on mower, which gives me a higher Vitamin D level than most. It is still not as high as recommended to assist in preventing Covid. I would change doctors immediately if mine resisted including the D test

DHR
September 5, 2022 9:12 pm

I have my vitamin D tested periodically here in the States because it has been chronically low in the past. The test is one of several tests run on a single blood sample. It does not require a separate sample as the article suggests is the case in Australia. Perhaps the Australian medical establishment needs to update their testing method?

ozspeaksup
Reply to  DHR
September 6, 2022 3:58 am

multiple tests usually require multiple vials each is colour coded for the labs to grab for specifics some WILL use one vial for a series but specifics like VitD do require a separate vial, kept away from all light sources for a proper result.
Ive just had a series of tests for obscure bloodbugs done 12 tests listed 5 vials used

KcTaz
Reply to  ozspeaksup
September 6, 2022 1:37 pm

I dunno. I had my D levels checked during a routine blood test. They did not use five vials, just one.

Gerald Machnee
September 5, 2022 9:29 pm

This is another Big Lie like climate change.
My doctor would not sign for a Vitamin D test unless I had some medical problem like Thyroid.
So what he and other doctors have missed is determining that MANY people are Vitamin D and Zinc deficient. In 2020 it was noted that many of those who died from “Covid” were significantly deficient in Vitamin D and Zinc.
Now if these two problems would have been attended to, the deaths attributed to Covid would have decreased significantly.
We did not need to waste millions or billions on injections that are now killing more people than Covid.
Of course my doctor said there is no relationship between Vitamin D and Covid so I stopped the discussion.
After doing research and reading weblogs from competent doctors like Dr. Ryan Cole and the FLCCC, I decided to increase my intake of Vitamin D and Zinc and add Quercetin. I have had no problem with Covid.
These measures would have made the fake “vaccines” unnecessary and of course the carbon footprint would have been lowered more than by cutting D tests. Of course the carbon footprint is one of the two biggest scams. The other is Fauci and Covid.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
September 5, 2022 10:05 pm

Zinc needs an ionophore. Red veggies (onions) and fruits help, or
get a supplement –> Quercetin.

Reply to  John Hultquist
September 6, 2022 5:28 am

Skip the onions — tale quercetin to help assimilate zinc,

Reply to  Gerald Machnee
September 6, 2022 5:27 am

?many of those who died from “Covid” were significantly deficient in Vitamin D”

Many elderly in nursing homes do not get much sunlight.
Based on experience with the in-laws
The wife visited her Mother every day and took her outside
in the wheelchair for sunlight when the weather allowed.

n.n
September 5, 2022 11:05 pm

People… Persons of Carbon (PoC), abort, sequester, divest (SAD).

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Peta of Newark
September 6, 2022 2:28 am

A ‘doctor type’ went past on my computer screen recently.
He was of 35 years experience/practice working in Florida.

He had made a point of testing myriad things including Vit D over all that time and only once did he come upon someone who had, his opinion, adequate D levels

It was an 80 year female who spent 10 hours per week in/on a sunbed.
Despite her been being a resident of Florida for some considerable time.

As many say, Vit D is all about Calcium but especially for girls and Osteoporosis, it’s important if not vital that the Calcium gets into bones and not deposited inside arterial walls

And to do that, any Vit D supplement should come with some Vitamin K2
Especially important because, similar to the slip slop slap campaign, a similar camapaign has been waged getting people to consume Calcium.
And so they do, far and away too much and hence why Vitamin K2 is needed. To get into into bones and then excrete what’s not needed.
(It’s pretty well everywhere, especially in green vegetables, darker the green the better)

The problem with excess Calcium is that it displaces Magnesium – with the upshot that anything between 25% and 80% of US adults are deficient in Mg

And Magnesium is an epic neurotransmitter, second only to Sodium.
Without sufficient transmitters, your cognitive skills fall off a cliff, followed by your mood, your memory, your GSOH, then you get leg/muscle cramps and ultimately, The Biggest Cramp of them all = Heart Attack

Now do we see why Vitamin D is the Sunshine Vitamin or particularly, that it seemingly improves your mood? By controlling Calcium better and thus letting Magnesium get in and ‘do its thing’
Also why ‘taking the waters’ and visiting spa was so popular. Why putting Epsom Salt in your bath is good – it actually absorbs through your skin

Enter Fish Oil and Oily Fish
Not only does the oil there contain Vitamin D (450IU per 5ml teaspoon) – hence doing all the things listed above, but the oil, being A Fat, displaces some modicum of sugar from your bloodstream.
Bingo when that happens, your brain wakes up from the slumber that sugar induces in it.

What about that for a cause of ‘Climate Change’…………..

Remember, the human animal cannot lie – some of us would assert that that is why this particular story surfaced here, of all places.
…..we instinctually ‘know’…

But it takes a very brave man to trust that instinct, rather than slavishly ‘following the science’

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Peta of Newark
September 6, 2022 4:02 am

anything more than 600mg of calcium was found to make heart failure risk Higher especially for women. I avoid it except for small amt in multivitamins, magnesium intake upped and its helped stop cramps AND so far..my AFib events recently too

Greytide
September 6, 2022 3:35 am

Carbon, carbon, carbon….Carbon isn’t the problem, stupidity seems to be the main issue.

ozspeaksup
September 6, 2022 3:37 am

this follows ONE just ONE doctype person stating Vit D tests were a waste of time and medicare
the fact thousands of oldies locked into rooms with ZERO access to sunshine to make Melanin/vit D and severely depressed anyway due to lockdowns, and there IS proof Vit D as a hormone does assist depressed people.
for the majority of the populace low vit D is likely due to the scares over melanoma and the rest and crazy sunscreen/covering up.
Ive been taking 3,000iu every second day or so for years and yet when tested I am JUST above the baseline .-50
my rheumatologist supplied a powder form in capsules of 20k iu per once a week for RArthritis and I do notice more pain when i dont keep it up.
it also had me pondering if they WANT people to keel over from covid as data suggested that LOW vitD patients died or were worse for longer

Sailorcurt
September 6, 2022 7:15 am

Are they saying that in Australia, doctors are ordering vitamin D tests alone?

I get a Vitamin D test every time I do my 6 month check up, but it’s part of the normal blood panel they do every time, so since that “carbon footprint” number for the vitamin D test is based on the medical equipment used to draw, store and test the blood, it makes no difference whether they’re adding a Vitamin D test to the panel or not.

The added test makes it a little more expensive, I’m sure, but as far as carbon footprint, that’s a moot point. Maybe in Australia doctors regularly order special blood draws just for Vitamin D testing, but I’d be surprised if that’s so.

Interestingly, they claim the Vitamin D test is low value, but Vitamin D is vital to the body’s immune system. I have an inside job so my Vitamin D is typically low. I take supplements to keep it in the normal range. I also have a job where I travel to customer sites, fly in planes, wander through crowded airports, sit in rooms full of people for days at a time. As far as I know, I have yet to contract COVID-19. Coincidence that I take a vitamin D supplement to strengthen my immune system? I can’t prove it obviously, but I suspect not.

It just seems odd to me that they single out Vitamin D testing when it isn’t the actual test that’s the “culprit” in carbon footprint at all, it’s the manufacture of the medical equipment required to conduct any blood test, so why focus on that particular test? I’m not a conspiracy theorist but that just seems weird to me that they focused so specifically on that one test. Do they want Australians to have weak immune systems? Why?

Coach Springer
September 6, 2022 7:16 am

I’d spend some time wondering about the definition of “unnecessary” and the quality of supporting data for this article, but it’s about CO2.

Rod
September 6, 2022 7:16 am

How much of that nasty “carbon” is put into the air with each Davos enclave? Maybe start there before going after our medical care?

TonyG
September 6, 2022 7:17 am

“A study examining the climate impact of” <insert anything here>
They’ll eventually find that EVERYTHING contributes so just sit at home and do nothing. Then they’ll find that even that contributes.

Reply to  TonyG
September 6, 2022 8:49 am

Breaking News: Climate change killed my goldfish !

Bruce Cobb
September 6, 2022 9:53 am

No idea on the planet is as laughably absurd or mind-numbingly asinine as the idea of a “carbon footprint”. It doesn’t surprise me in the least though that stuff is done in the healthcare industry which is wasteful and unnecessary, and not just vitamin D tests.

LARRY K SIDERS
September 6, 2022 11:48 am

“Greens” arent green in the least.

Every activity these Marxists….er….Greens manage to block in Western Countries “pops up” as far more environmentally devastating activity in China or Africa…where little to no environmental precautions are taken to minimize damage to the global Environment. They damage the Environment MASSIVELY with every little thing they “accomplish”.

Where is the ACCOUNTING for the God-Awful Environmental Damage our “Greens” actually produce?? We’ll never know because NONE of the “Greenie” activity is really about the Enviroment…all of their actions…ALL OF THEIR ACTIONS…results in more environmental devastation than if they’d done nothing and allowed those Economic Activities happen where people actually give a damn and spend money to reduce environmental impacts.

All “Green” activity is Economic AND Environmental Destruction. Vandalism on a grand scale.

From any fair accounting… the Green New Deal will be an Environmental Disaster…while wasting ~$100 Trillion in lost Opportunity Costs. Enough to give every soul on earth free Education K – Grad School….FOREVER… Plus feeding every soul in Africa… Forever.

Grand Theft on the Most Massive Scale Imaginable. And we’re supposed to suck it up and go along WITHOUT ANY CROSS EXAMINATION of Climate Activist’s fraudulent Claims?

Philo
September 6, 2022 5:12 pm

Stop UNNECCESARY testing. Whether or not it’s necessary comes to a doctor’s knowledge.
Without major systems they will only prescribe a few hundred milligrams. Common sense requires using higher levels if there are other sysmtpoms.

rho
September 6, 2022 6:06 pm

Penny wise and pound foolish. Vit D is an important part of your immune system. A lot of people have lower than necessary levels of D and people with low levels of D are more prone to infectious diseases. This is a real danger for dark skinned people – one of the reasons why blacks seemed to be more prone to the Covid virus.

Andy H
September 7, 2022 4:37 am

Vitamin D is really cheap. Unless someone looks like they are in desperate need of a test or to help diagnosing other problems, just give everyone 10 bucks worth of free tablets. Problem gone.

Editor
September 7, 2022 9:00 am

The latest medical research on nutrition and vitamin supplementation has shown that testing for Vitamin D blood level is almost always unnecessary, particularly in the absence of symptoms of deficiency.
Vit D testing is suspected of simply being medical fad….encouraged by health care interests far beyond reasonable demands of patient care.

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