Marc Morano
New study, published in the journal Frontiers in Ecology and the Environment
Scientific American: “In the U.S., people eat more protein than they need to. And though it might not be bad for human health, this excess does pose a problem for the country’s waterways. The nation’s wastewater is laden with the leftovers from protein digestion: nitrogen compounds that can feed toxic algal blooms and pollute the air and drinking water. …
Once it enters the environment, the nitrogen in urea can trigger a spectrum of ecological impacts known as the “nitrogen cascade.” Under certain chemical conditions, and in the presence of particular microbes, urea can break down to form gases of oxidized nitrogen. These gases reach the atmosphere, where nitrous oxide (N2O) can contribute to warming via the greenhouse effect and nitrogen oxides (NOx) can cause acid rain.” … Patricia Glibert, an oceanographer at the University of Maryland, suggests consumers could switch to a “demitarian” diet—an approach that focuses on reducing the consumption of meat and dairy..”
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Climate Depot’s Morano: “They will not give up. They will continue to scare you about climate change in every, and any conceivable way. Now when you pee, you are allegedly a human pollution machine that is heating up the planet. The voiding of your bladder must be curtailed for the sake of the planet! So says ‘The Science’!”
By: Admin – Climate DepotJuly 29, 2022 4:39 PM with 0 comments
By Sasha Warren
In the U.S., people eat more protein than they need to. And though it might not be bad for human health, this excess does pose a problem for the country’s waterways. The nation’s wastewater is laden with the leftovers from protein digestion: nitrogen compounds that can feed toxic algal blooms and pollute the air and drinking water. This source of nitrogen pollution even rivals that from fertilizers washed off of fields growing food crops, new research suggests.
When we overconsume protein—whether it comes from lentils, supplements or steak—our body breaks the excess down into urea, a nitrogen-containing compound that exits the body via urine and ultimately ends up in sewage. Maya Almaraz, a biogeochemist at the University of California, Davis, and her colleagues wanted to see how much of this nitrogen is being flushed into the U.S. sewage system because of a protein-heavy diet. The researchers combined population data and previous work on how much excess protein the average American eats and found that the majority of nitrogen pollution present in wastewater—some 67 to 100 percent—is a by-product of what people consume. “We think a lot about sewage nitrogen. We know that’s an issue,” Almaraz says. “But I didn’t know how much of that is actually affected by the choices we’re making way upstream—when we go the grocery store, when we cook a meal and what we end up putting in our bodies.”
Once it enters the environment, the nitrogen in urea can trigger a spectrum of ecological impacts known as the “nitrogen cascade.” Under certain chemical conditions, and in the presence of particular microbes, urea can break down to form gases of oxidized nitrogen. These gases reach the atmosphere, where nitrous oxide (N2O) can contribute to warming via the greenhouse effect and nitrogen oxides (NOx) can cause acid rain. Other times, algae and cyanobacteria, photosynthetic bacteria also called blue-green algae, feed on urea directly. The nitrogen helps them grow much faster than they would normally, clogging vital water supplies with blooms that can produce toxins that are harmful to humans, other animals and plants. And when the algae eventually die, the problem is not over. Microorganisms that feast on dead algae use up oxygen in the water, leading to “dead zones,” where many aquatic species simply cannot survive, in rivers, lakes and oceans. Blooms from Puget Sound to Tampa, Fla., have caused large fish die-offs.
Almaraz and her team suggest, however, that curbing nitrogen pollution could be approached more quickly with a change in eating habits that could save billions of dollars in the long term.
Their new study, published in Frontiers in Ecology and the Environment, broke down protein requirements by age (adults 50 to 70 years old need the most) for the current U.S. population and projected future populations out to 2055. By midcentury, the country’s population is expected to be larger overall and to have a greater percentage of older people. The researchers calculated the amount of nitrogen that would enter the environment if people ate today’s average American diet and if they instead reduced their protein intake to only what is nutritionally needed. This shift in diet alone could reduce the amount of nitrogen reaching aquatic ecosystems by 12 percent today and by nearly 30 percent in the future, according to the study’s results. Such a change could also help reduce damaging nitrogen pollution while wastewater infrastructure catches up.
“Many people think that we need to all switch to becoming vegetarians. Obviously, that’s not practical. That’s not something that is really ever going to happen,” Glibert says. Rather than cutting out any foods entirely, she suggests consumers could switch to a “demitarian” diet—an approach that focuses on reducing the consumption of meat and dairy, which currently make up about two thirds of the protein eaten in the U.S. “Enjoy your steak, enjoy your burger but go modest on your meat consumption in your following meal,” she says.
Sasha Warren is a 2022 AAAS Mass Media Fellow at Scientific American. They are currently working on their PhD in planetary sciences at the University of Chicago. Follow them on Twitter@space_for_sasha
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I do nor know whether vegans or greens are more annoying or preachy.
My experiences from dining out or entertaining at home suggest that vegans are relatively easy to accommodate. Greens, impossible.
Feed vegans greens – simple
Debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.
How many vegans do you know that aren’t Greens?
The Venn Diagram is two perfectly overlapping circles in my limited data sampling!
They are annoyingly preachy.
A trait shared with all zealots.
Q: How can you guess if someone is a vegetarian?
A: You don’t have to guess. They’re gunna tell you within a few minutes.
Why don’t they go back to Vega? It’s only about 40 light years away.
Our daughter is a vegetarian, not a vegan, so that may be the difference. She objects to eating animals only because of how they are raised and slaughtered.
She will eat meat if it’s hunted or if it comes from a place that humanely raises and slaughters the animals.
There’s a place in one of the Dakotas that raises buffalo called, Wild Ideas. They are all pasture raised and the State Inspector goes out into the field to approve the animal’s health and, then, the owner shoots it right there. No trauma.
At least, this makes sense. Of course, it’s very expensive meat and there is no way to do this and feed the world but for those who care enough about this, it does offer an alternative.
There was a ranch in Arizona who raised their cattle in the field and took it to a slaughter house and she would eat their meat because of how they are raised. They went out of business due to the prolonged drought in NE Arizona. It was the last area of Az. to come out of severe drought conditions and they couldn’t make it.
She’s not preachy about it but then, she’s not a strict vegetarian. She even has a rooster who, at this point, she’d love to kill and eat but thinks his meat would be too tough for consumption. She really hates that rooster and for many very good reasons!
If it isn’t a general solution to a problem created by a large number of people, then it is virtue signalling.
Buy a pressure cooker for the rooster. Then she can expand her diet to include squirrels. That is tough meat!
When I was out in the middle of Korea in the middle of nowhere, my wife and I went to a restaurant and ordered chicken (among other things). They had chickens roaming around outside, and went out and butchered one. Talk about tough meat — had a hard time chewing it.
When I was a child I would go to my grandfather farm and was served chicken, it was very tender and fried, (something we did not get at home) that chicken was alive up to the time we arrived It was a young rooster. What we got at home were “retired” hens that were to old to consistently produce eggs. You had to roast them to make them tender. Not only that we bought the birds alive and we had to slaughter them(often I was the executioner with the hand ax) and clean them. It was generally thirty at a time. I grew up poor. I don’t eat roaster anymore.
Axe?
Suggesting that you didn’t use a funnel and a sharp knife?
Chickens calm down when held upside down.
You invert the chicken and when it calms, the head drops down below the funnel, allowing a humane kill.
Chickens slaughtered any other way, flap and run wildly, splattering everything nearby with blood. Which, I am sure you noticed.
Most folks do not understand that chickens grow fast.
We also raised chickens in my family.
What is missed from older times is that people used to hang their meat to age and tenderize. Depending on the temperature, that aging could be for days.
A freshly killed chicken is often much tougher than if it was aged even one day.
There seems to be a common misconception that all sheep and beef cattle are lot fed.
There may be a large proportion in the US and Europe, but not in at least Argentina, Australia and Brazil.
There is only one feed lot in all of New Zealand and it is for export of beef mainly to the US.
All other meat ,beef ,venison.pork ,lamb .mutton is all stunned before slaughter and it has been for many years by government regulation .
All animals except pigs are raised out doors on pasture and a very small proportion of cattle are purchased at around 18 months of age off pasture to finish at the Five Star feedlot in Canterbury.
Some crops are grown for dry summers and cold winters with maize or corn as you call it in the US grown for supplementing dairy cows and it is claimed to reduce nitrogen from the cows ..
It is a fact that soils under pasture sequests carbon .
Our government don’t want to know as they seem to want to reduce our herds in the name of climate change because some clown in the UNIPCC has calculated that half of NZs emissions are agricultural based .
NZ is a country of 5 million and feed another 30 million people around the world but these emissions are said to be NZs .
I ask you how does this work and why are not the importing countries charged for these so called emissions to feed them selves .
Very well said.
I should have had NZ in the list. Sorry about that, Chief.
NZ best bet is to get that pos ardern OUT as in aus we have to suffer albo for 2.5yrs.
curious how ardern can drop the mallet on NZ oil gas and farmers with dairy a big target…and yet Fonterra ships cows/embryo etc and does deals for massive dairies in China and shes just fine with that?
loses you income and flogs it to OS entities who do NOT have your interest in mind at all
After the Melamine scandal in China!?
China is still run based upon a male honor system, where anything done to maintain a lord’s honor is reasonable.
That is, when the local fails to produce required allotment amounts of milk, melamine gets added to boost the milk supply.
It’s like the diethylene glycol contamination in Austria, Italy back in the 1980s. Any market for the wines crashed and people are, even today, still afraid.
yes most in Aus are pastured and lucky they are. there IS a push to feedlot on farms for pickup by the larger stupormarkets direct
places go from pleasant pastures to the rankest stink in a matter of weeks. ruins the soil and the animals are filthy and stressed compared to their normal calm selves in the open paddocks
Or the UK where they graze from spring to autumn and then use haylage and silage over the winter.
If you look up grain fed feed lots in the United States, you only find a few listed.
Those feedlots serve the restaurant crowd and wealthier buyers.
Meats sent to grocery store counters are run through huge butchering facilities. Places where any grain fed to the beasts is calculated to the minimum necessary to fatten the beast.
Instead the animals get fed mash, from the making of whiskey, along with corn wastes (plants, ear sheaths). Vegetative wastes from turnips, beets and many other crops are also fed to cattle.
Across the country, local butchers buy their animals from places that feed animals any of the grasses/alfalfa.
Farms throughout America raise their cattle on grasslands, whether in the arid deserts or in the lush east. Only a few cattle are sent to places where they get fed (dangerously) grain.
Grain ferments and painfully bloats the stomachs of ungulates. A horrible practice that activists love to claim is performed on all animals used for food.
It depends on the grain. We used to drought-feed with cereal hay and oats, and oats has a wide safety margin.
Feeding wheat is like playing with nitroglycerine, though.
And it’s interesting info from you and Gerry that both the US and UK have extensive pasture grazing as well.
daughters right the rooster would be tough and pretty rank tasting. I have one just like it here, he lives ONLY because I need the odd batch of chicks
She needs to work on a farm.
Yes indeed it is ridiculous. The foolishness just never ends. Was there ever a population so foolish as us?
There probably was. We just don’t know about them because they’re extinct.
Yes, the Romans before the Fall of the Roman Empire. We’re making many of the same mistakes they did before their fall to include unlimited immigration and inflation. They shaved gold and silver off the coins so they were not worth as much as the stated amount as the empire’s stores of both shrank.
Rome, also, had a great decline in what today we call family values and gave themselves over to debauchery.
Well, apart from unlimited immigration, inflation, shaving gold & silver off coins, declining family values and debauchery
“what did the Romans ever do for us?”
“…gave themselves over to debauchery.” Most of what we know of the ‘debauched’ and ‘degenerate’ Romans comes from the early Christians, not from pagan writers – a lot of their writing is fairly debauchery free. Of course the Romans believed themselves to be quite moral – they were very critical of the debauchery of the Greeks.
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Romans built temples to their gods in lands they conquered. So, long as the conquered countries allowed that, Romans allowed the conquered countries to worship their old god(s).
What Romans detested were heretics. Those originally believed in one religion than hated that religion. Early Christians were heretics to the Romans.
bread and circuses indeed
pretty well sums up todays times
My understanding is that the Romans were quite debauched from the start.
“Eating Too Much Protein “
So, how much is too much? And how much is just right? They don’t say. It’s utter bolleaux – again. Nitrogen is the new ‘immediate‘ enemy joining the other bad guys – CO2, CH4 etc
“though it might not be bad for human health”
That’s their way of saying it’s beneficial, very beneficial to human health.
Few humans, except for people like Jordan Peterson, eat a purely meat based diet. The new green war on agriculture is only just beginning and I dare say they think they can force prices up and blame it on Putin or..
eating too much protein.
There is never a positive aspect to ANY of these effects according to their Green religion.
Streambank erosion is almost always a huge negative. I would think fertilizing the streambank vegetation would be a substantial benefit.
However, try to get funding for a study titled “Positive Environmental Effects of High-Protein Diets in Humans.”
Eating meat also makes people happy. Think about all the memorable meals you have had. How many were meatless?
The CAGW cult hates people. Literally, hates us. We are ‘deplorable’ and have ‘unacceptable views’. They have a deep hatred of people. Therefore, they do not like things that make us happy. Meat makes us happy. Family makes us happy. It is no coincidence that those are the things under attack. They are miserable people, and they hate us so much that they want us to be even more miserable.
curious they said 50 to 70yr olds needed the most protein?
I rather thought it was the growing young and early life to 40s when people build muscle worked hard etc
well some do but most now dont work hard or physically at all
you drop the protein on feed for older animals or risk kidney and liver problems
Veganism is a horrifically poor diet for humans, for both physical and mental health reasons. I don’t know if the veganism causes post-modernist lunacy, or if post-modernist lunacy leads to veganism. But I am pretty certain that there is a strong positive feedback loop involved, leading to some serious individual and societal instability.
Indeed. A vegan diet will lead to neurological problems possibly including dementia unless vitamin B-12 supplements are taken. Says so right on the vegan society’s webpage. Humans evolved canine teeth, a highly acidic gut, and a taste for meat for a reason. We can’t synthesize B-12, we get it by ingesting meat and animal products.
Vegans are Darwinism in action.
Females stop menstruating, males can’t get it up and no one wants to sleep with one anyway.
In about 70 years there won’t be any left. In the mean time we have put up with listening to them … or eat them, depending on how bad things get when they ban fertilisers and fossil fuel use.
I’m not against a vegan diet, although you have to catch them first. 😉
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The nice thing is that they can’t stop talking about veganism, so you can just listen to find out where they are. It’s like elephants crashing through the underbrush. You can hear them long before you see them. 😉😉
I have asked vegans how they ensure that they are getting all 11 essential amino acids ,get blank stares back and sometimes I get accused of being the devil
Velly intrestin :<)
Do they add B-12 to all the fake meats they’re coming out with?
Heck no! Then you’d be smart enough not to buy that dreck ever again, Joe.
doubt it the supplements of the Bgroup DO have a pong to them -ingesting and after
Human digestion is optimized for fats, and is also pretty good with proteins, but handles carbs comparitively poorly (though better than the carnivores of the animal kingdom). Fats are the base structural components of nerve tissue (including the brain) and hormones.
Long-term lack of fats will upset your hormonal balance, degrade your nervous system, and promote the onset of dementia.
I once attended a lecture by a physician who claimed that anyone who ate an exclusively meat diet would die from it. I asked him how come Eskimos hadn’t become extinct. He didn’t have an answer. In fact, he was speechless. I guess he had never thought of that.
The answer is “fats”. Consider “rabbit starvation.”
Protein poisoning – Wikipedia
Interesting, but I note that the article starts with:
Id say so, huge amounts of aussies only managed to survive by eating underground mutton in war n depression years, butter and fats were rationed veg was homegrown in victory gardens and were normal for isolated farms as basic survival. and rabbits that are on decent pasture DO have some fat anyway. Kangaroo is FAR more likely to cause problem eaten as sole meat longer term, they really dont store fat
Well stated!
If you raise a child on a vegan diet it will loose 20 IQ points.
But that may also be inherited.
From the article– “nitrogen cascade…Blooms from Puget Sound to Tampa, Fla., have caused large fish die-offs.” Since this includes the demon nitrogen that I know a bit about in the ocean will eventually examine the paper, hobby during the heat. First need to know if the route is through the continent, clockwise, anti-clockwise, most probably not geometric. Since the mentioned not so “dead zone” is often promoted as a Louisiana problem, the immediate suggestion is eat more “écrevisse.”
Prompted by the article – I was reminded…
“…urinary nitrogen is a well established biomarker for daily protein consumption. The models showed that trimethylamine-N-oxide (TMAO) is correlated to urinary nitrogen. Furthermore, urinary creatine was found to be increased by the High Protein diet whereas citric acid was increased by the Low Protein diet. “
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3296994/
Creatine? Oh yes… Creatine is found in vertebrates where it facilitates recycling of adenosine triphosphate (ATP), primarily in muscle and brain tissue.
We can’t be having that, can we?
If the WEF acolytes can’t kill you off, they want you too weak and dense to cause them any problems.
In a too brief, lazy, unsuccessful search for the paper in Frontiers in Ecology and the Environment High Impact Ecology Journal found this— Addicott, E. T. et al. 2022. Toward an improved understanding of causation in the ecological sciences. Online Version of Record before inclusion in an issue. Not OA. https://doi.org/10.1002/fee.2530
Another article from SA author–“People with Long COVID May Still Have Spike Proteins in Their Blood,” some credit here, but well after the fact. As for blood, creatine is not usually found in adult blood, in the past at least.
Duh, in the urine, not blood
Almost all of the nitrogen that is causing these algae blooms is coming from urban and suburban lawns.
That’s what I have heard, but the marine biologist advocates weren’t that smart and blamed it on agriculture, mostly corn farmers who(un)happily replied. They also didn’t know about ‘oligotrophication,” the process where you take out the nutrients. Such has been proven both in fresh and salt water, and when they did a diversion out of the ‘polluted’ Mississippi River which has had recycled sewage for decades.
If they’re from the NW, I’d be happy to eat more of them. They taste just like lobster!
And yet, somehow, here we are
I’ve been pissing on my lemon tree for the last few years, It is about a meter tall and about a meter in diameter. This year I had over 120 very nice lemons. Something must be right. Probably Nitrogen.
Your lemon tree knows a lot more than Almaraz et al do. But then your lemon tree has a different agenda.
When the alarmists say your urine constitutes acid rain, then make them lemonade.
They really should cut the crap and say what Attenborough said: ” Humans are intruders“.
But alarmism and honesty are poles apart.
Attenborough, as he approaches his last breath, is determined to have more people beat him to the point of last breath.
Truly foul.
Attenborough is a special kind of stupid and evil.
British MP Demands an End to Affordable Food, to Combat Obesity and Climate Change
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/18/british-mp-demands-more-expensive-food-to-combat-obesity-and-climate-change/
WALRUS ATTENBOUROUGH
Delingpole: the Netflix/Attenborough #Walrusgate Scandal Gets Worse http://bit.ly/2VRZhm7 via @BreitbartNews
David Attenborough says sending food to famine-ridden countries is ‘barmy’
Veteran broadcaster has called for a debate on population control
http://bit.ly/2Okcchp
When life hand you a bucket of warm piss, make lemonade!
You are a philosophical AND environmental genius.
There was a song on Zeplin II, something about “squeeze my lemon”. The singer was called Robert Plant, I guess there’s a connection somewhere.
The Lemon Song…
This will be a fun thread to come back and read later.
Regards,
Bob
Piss off, vegans.
A report based on “can”, “might”, “may” possibilities and models. Not a spec of observed reality. The motivation behind this type of crap is to make us all feel guilty for living. Not one more electron or drop of ink should wasted spreading this nonsense.
I am still sticking to my preternaturally adaptive principle to deal with insane Greenies. (Until you stop doing X yourself, don’t tell/force me to quit.)
Once you quit pissing urea yourself, I will then consider reducing my nitrogenous excretions.
Until then, “Piss off!”
Not to mention the carbon pollution. Self-abort with planned sequestration. Think of the pride parades: lions, lionesses, and their unPlanned cubs playing in gay detachment.
Malthus was totally wrong but has dominated modern environmentalist thinking. The anti-human agenda is a self destructive ideology.
What if us releasing the trapped CO2 was the greatest gift humans have ever given nature?
Most ecosystems are fertilizer deficient.
CO2 is plant food.
QED: Release the
Krakenplant food!Isn’t it so telling what leftists fixate on? Thank goodness I have a science education and career.
How are Leftists like legumes?
Both work hard to fix nitrogen!
(Does anyone think Greta or Al Gore can explain the science behind my bad “Dad” joke?)
The increase in nitrous oxide makes even bad “Dad” seem funny.
Morano is correct that ‘they will not give up’. Next time you’re talking with a progressive, just ask him/her/it just what their ideal world / society would need to look like for them to just stop ‘agitating’. Very scary and revealing.
I have recently been asking Lefties what would be the ideal concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere?
Debating agricultural yields and optimal temperatures for either humans (or the biosphere as a whole) usually leaves them sputtering incoherently.
They then end the debate by pointing out the “consensus science”. I then ask for any published studies of the correct level of CO2. I am usually then declared to be an idiot at that point.
Be proud of it.
Fortunately, in our polite society here in Southern California, we no longer discuss Climate Science or politics. We are too refined for that.
Being an “idiot” is self-evident by asking a “lefty” to provide objective answers. That is like asking a cow to derive Maxwell’s Equation.
Cows are more in touch with reality than leftists.
I suspect that their personalities are such that they would never be happy — even living in the proverbial Garden of Eden.
My recollection is that the common sugar glucose is the primary metabolic fuel. Glucose makes up a major portion of carbs. So if there are adequate carbs in your diet you won’t be using the amino acids of protein for fuel.
Ancel Keys was the dietary junk science analogue to USSR geneticist Tromfin Lysenko. His high carb / low fat diet is why millions of Americans sport ample spare tires and develop Type-II diabetes. When it’s all said and done, it will be a push as to which government ‘scientist’ sent more folks to an early grave.
I’m not talking high carb. If you have say a potato with your steak that would be enough
One size does not fit all. I once, at 48 years old, went on a pasta diet. It was a 90 day plan. I started out slowly removing fats and substituting carbs….same volume of food, less calories. I ate adequate protein. At six weeks I started to shed weight, and I mean shed. I was eating a protein shake for breakfast, an apple and a cup of vegetable soup for lunch and as much pasta and skim milk as I desired for supper. I ended up losing 38 pounds, was never hungry and felt fantastic. Oh, I also ran 5 miles every morning.
Actually the primary metabolic fuel is Acetyl- CoA which is derived from fatty acids, proteins or glucose. I have not eaten a gram of carbohydrate for 6 months but am somehow alive to tell you about it.
They’ve been taking the piss for years
So they want you to eat more carbohydrates, instead? You have to get calories from something. This is called the ‘prison diet’, because it’s what they feed prisoners to keep them docile: A high carbohydrate diet.
They just want a nice docile population, that they can easily manipulate through fantasy fears.
I used to love reading Scientific American back in the day. It never was terribly scientific per se but, it also wasn’t the garbage sheet for the advancement of sci-fi science it is today.
Today, trust in science is probably on the same level as it was trust in Boris Johnson or in Joe Biden. And that is low 30’s. Not good for science nor for politicians.
When Springer Publishing bought them that’s when it changed
“Such a change could also help reduce damaging nitrogen pollution while wastewater infrastructure catches up.”
“Catches up.” Rubbish. On a consulting basis, I worked at an upgraded dairy plant, and the nitrogen removal performance of the new wastewater treatment process originally reviewed for its discharge permit 12 years ago was far better than required to meet the Chesapeake Bay – related limits on nitrogen, phosphorus, etc.
It is ridiculous to suggest a diet solution, when well-known wastewater treatment controls are already doing the job.
The EPA has been attentive to nitrogen impacts for a long time.
https://www.epa.gov/chesapeake-bay-tmdl/chesapeake-bay-tmdl-fact-sheet#:~:text=The%20TMDL%20identified%20the%20overall,and%206.45%20billion%20pounds%20of
Just curious.
Was this pretreatment before discharge to a municipal wastewater plant?
I know Dannon Yogurt in Ohio pretreats it’s waste before discharge to the municipal plant.
Many industries do.
No, this was full treatment discharging directly to a river.
“Carbon pollution” doesn’t mean your car, which is metallic , it means YOU.
Are they really so dense that they think they can convince people to change their diet to reduce nitrogen in waste water? Most people won’t change their diet to stay healthy let alone care about someone else’s health.
Unfortunately, scientists – especially any science relating to environment or medicine – have degraded their reputations to the point that their statements don’t carry any weight.
The demonization of CO2 is not resonating with the majority of the populace, except for the fringe lunatics, the legacy media (but I repeat myself), and government oligarchs. This is another attempt to create a hobgoblin meant to scare the proles to obey their masters and create guilt for the weak-minded fools that believe the propaganda.
Instead of trying to change the population’s diets, how about developing better ways to reduce urea via waste management? It might even be profitable to recycle the nitrogen.
Every town bigger than a few thousand people is required to have sewage treatment, and those sewage treatment plants have had to meet federal standards. Those standards include setting maximum nitrogen levels.
Those towns that don’t have sewage, all the houses are on septic systems.
The number of locations that still dump raw sewage into rivers and streams is minuscule, assuming any remain at all.
A complete non-problem. Pretty much like all of the alarmist agenda.
I thought that sewerage treatment plants took care of it. Thank you for the information that I was too lazy to look up.
Trouble is here in the UK the water companies sewage treatment works are often old and inefficient and sewage is regularly released despite there being supposedly strict regulation.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/sewage-in-water-a-growing-public-health-problem
The point you make about convincing people to alter their diet to stay healthy. Lighter people require less energy to move so losing a stone of weight will increase fuel mileage. With expensive motor fuels, who is on a voluntary crash diet?
It seems that the only people who are interested in altering our diet for the Greater Good or for Our Safety are the very same ones who want us dead.
And they have multiple ways to reach their goal of killing off a considerable chunk of the world population.
The “experts” have been bought off. That’s why the lunatics can’t define or are constantly re-defining sex, ideal climate, or even recession.
Well, that’s a pisser!
So … first they said we need to disrupt the Carbon Cycle and now we need to disrupt the Nitrogen Cycle too? All to save the Planet?
What natural cycle do we to disrupt next? The DHMO Cycle?
With the talk of sun shields to save us from global warming, perhaps the solar cycle?
My suggestion is that anyone that thinks that this is a good idea, should stop pissing totally – to save the planet. The planet will be in better shape in a week or so.
The verbal and written diarrhea from these folks is beyond the pale!