It was totally predictable that the media would start screeching the usual screechiness they employ whenever there is a heat wave anywhere in the world. Some headlines were a bit over the top:
A meme was inevitable. The meme this time comes from “global warming is hitting us full in the face”, from this article in the UK Guardian comes an emergent meme on Twitter:
Except, if you just move East of the UK several hundred miles, the “global heating hitting you in the face” is not so much…of course they wont tell you that a cold outbreak is right next door.
So we eat bugs, move into 200 square foot apartments, give up meat and give all our money to big government and that will stop temps from rising. Is this my salvation narrative and since western society is evil this will allow the priests of terror to stop rising CO2 and to save the planet while killing me and my family. Asking for my wife
Just invest in renewable energy and EVs. Lots of jobs and economic growth. Huge amount of boost to economy and reduction in consumer energy costs from insulating existing buildings.
and old folks freezing like it was Medieval times again?
that shit wouldn’t survive without government subsides
Go to Prof. Dieter Helm’s Oxford website and educate yourself about renewable energy. As I’ve said before he is no climate change sceptic but he is an expert on energy policy.
Here are extracts from one of his latest essays (‘The retreat from net zero’ 4th July 2022)
“Salient facts……...that disaggregated, low density, intermittent renewables will not fill all the energy gap in place of the 80% fossil fuels we currently rely upon, and that biofuels, biomass and the burning of wood pellets are a very limited option, and quite often perverse”
” it is simply naive to think that wind turbines and solar panels could add up to the energy demand to replace the 80% of fossil fuels. They are necessary but a very long way from being sufficient. By their nature they are low density sources of energy. It takes lots and lots of wind turbines to replace a single gas power station and given that they are intermittent, it takes a lot of fossil fuel capacity on stand by to make sure the lights stay on”
“This is the first net zero energy price crisis because decarbonisation policies have not taken account of the consequences of not only the intermittency of wind, but also the consequences of that intermittency rendering everything else intermittent too. It requires much more capacity to meet any given demand to ensure that when the wind does not blow there is something else to take up the strain. It also makes that ‘something else’ much more expensive.
http://www.dieterhelm.co.uk/energy/climate-change/the-retreat-from-net-zero/
HadCET was updated this morning. The record for the highest daily mean dating back to 1772 got shattered. The previous record was 25.3 C on July 25th, 2019. The new record is 28.8 C on July 19th, 2022. Of the highest daily means for each of the 250 years in the CET record prior to 2022 the mean is 21.0 C with a standard deviation of 1.6 C. 2022 is 4.9σ above the mean.
Wow!
Err…that should be 28.1 C making it 4.4σ. I apologize for the gaffe there.
I hear 1772 is lodging a protest.
2022 has been tested positive for Kool-Aide consumption.
I’m guessing we need to get 2019 tested too. No?
Well, you’ve tested your own computations and found a HUGE over-statement of 0.7C (just kiddin’).
And you corrected your mistake without any prompting.
Kudos.
So yes, now that you’ve demonstrated how easy it is to make HUGE over-statements of temps computations (i.e. a MASSIVE 0.7C), I guess the scrutineers should be called in to have another look at 2019.
“Science” needs to be consistent. No?
It was the hottest of times, it was the coldest of times.
You were all warned about the dooming and no doubt Greenpeace will be sending a bevy of protesters to China aboard the Rainbow Warrior-
China speeding up approvals for new coal plants: Greenpeace (msn.com)
It’s topple the evil denier Xi or bust!
Yes it was predictable and No, there is no hilarity.
By definition really, what makes things ‘funny’ is that they are unexpected, out-of-the-blue or unusual.
(The basis of the GSOH and an absolute prerequisite for a success hunter – back in the days when we knew what we were supposed to eat)
What’s described in the story here is Depressing and Sad.
That grown up and supposedly educated people behave like over-excited children.
Which is precisely what they are and there is a Good Reason for that – thus the minor rant (above) about GSOH
“By definition really, what makes things ‘funny’ is that they are unexpected, out-of-the-blue or unusual.”
I would say that the element of truth told in the joke trumps all. That’s why satire really bites.
I suggest that commentors understand that the climate is changing. “Climate Change” is real – should be no argument about this. The problem is that this change is not an “existential threat”. Here in Kentucky where the ag zone I live in was moved from zone 6 to zone 7 20+/- years ago – my area is warming. I don’t know of how many zones were reclassified to a lower number – tell me.
Additionally the CO2 “problem” is a net benefit to mankind – shouldn’t be any argument about this. Here the problem is the “noise” is all one way -” it is bad”. I don’t know how we change that but at least we should acknowledge that CO2 concentration is going up and that is good.
And didn’t I read yesterday somewhere that if we (I don’t remember who “we” is) our 2050 goals it will effect a .3 degree c change. This should be publicized.
Guys (and Gals) we are beating our heads against a wall and getting our blood pressure up to no avail.
And now I feel better!
Really? Well we built the entire UK rail system to a 35C spec, and here we have it 39 and 40C – and likely to repeat. We don’t have aircon, because up till this century 27 was a rare hot day in the UK. We didn’t build our roads and runways for 8, 10, 12 C more than what was usual right up till the late 90s.
Keep a stiff upper lip, friend! We didn’t have aircon in the 60’s either and had a lot of 100F days in the summer. Farm work went on regardless! You learn to live with it or you leave!
We did not have a ‘lot’ of 37C days last century.
Operative word “we”. So what? The point is that some of *us* *DID*. If “us” survived it then so can you!
sounds like those engineers didn’t build in a large enough safety factor.
Because last century even up to the 90s 39 and 40C hadn’t been seen
So what? It’s still just weather, not climate!
UK used to build the railways for India to withstand the temperatures in that country so we had the expertise.
And yet here we have the UK where no less than 29 weather stations across a wide area broke the previous record, set only 3 years before, some by 1.5 C. Impossible to claim this was just rogue weather stations in car parks…
And yes, UK hit 40C. 27 c is considered too hot in a UK summer, before recent events.
And this is part of a pattern: UK high temperatures records were broken in 1990, twice, then 8 times this century. The ten hottest years in the UK are all post 2002.
There are any number of other (high) temperature records broken this century in the UK. A clear progression, clear warming and clearly climate change.
In wider Europe, we are on our second heatwave in Spain this year, with extrem heat in Spain, Portugal, France, Netherlands and drought in Italy.
Last year we had early heatwave in E Europe followed by record temperatures in Greece and (for whole of Europe) in Sicily in a Mediterranean wide heatwave.
so again, we have a recent uptick in heatwaves and temperatures across Europe (including into Scandinavia and its Arctic Circle).
all in line with the predictions of climate science…
40C is NOT ‘just weather’ for th eUK – and clearly a progression, not a one off.
Now explain how we came out of the last glacial period of the current ice age approx. 10,000 years ago when CO2 was 180ppm.
boom!
Hours later and you still haven’t answered my simple question. You have made comments since on this and other threads. And I thought you knew everything..
Hey, I’m not hanging around here just to answer your nonsense…
(facepalm) Your post immediately below this one gives the lie to what you’ve said.
How is that relevant to a recent, rapid rise in temperatures this century, caused by human CO2? The current situation is the new additional driver of human CO2 has overwhelmed the historic natural processes
Temps have been rising since the 19th century Griff. What caused that, because it wasn’t or see-oh-toos, was it? I’d love to hear your excuse.
It’s relevant because it was not CO2 that released the entire country north of where Watford now lies from a mile thick ice sheet that didn’t melt in high summer for 100,000 years previous, there were other forces at work and still are. Are you a climate change denier?
When the temperature record includes thermometers with +/- 0.5C and +/- 1.0C uncertainty, how do we know if we are seeing a .13C/decade rise?
The uncertainty just totally blanks out the ability to accurately identify the differences you are trying to measure!
Records are made to be broken. What’s the problem?
I grew up in Kansas in the 60’s where 100F days were more common than today. I worked in the hay fields all day in that temp, I rode tractors and combines with no cab and no air conditioning all day in that temp. Worked on all kinds of farm implements in that temp.
Grow up and learn to live with it. It won’t kill you. Just stay hydrated.
The problem is the KEEP getting broken, over increasingly short intervals.
The ten years with new highest records in the UK are 1990 (twice) and 8 years this century… the 10 warmest years are all post 2003.
It’s been a bit warmer than usual for just two days and Griff’s getting all wet (and I don’t mean sweaty).
It’s funny to watch.
What does the *interval* have to do with it? Not well versed in probability are you?
Roll a 6-sided die. There is no reason why you can’t roll a string of sixes all together.
I think he’s finally gone off the deep end…
Stop whining.
Being as you weren’t even born in 1976, how do you explain the MUCH LONGER hot spell then??
How do explain farming in Greenland 1000 yrs ago?
I have to imagine with a roughly 2C warmer climatem temps in the UK must have regularly been above 35C in summer.
Idem Roman period because the Roman villas around Cirencester had pretty nice Italian style constructions ideal for temps found in Italy, – where I was in Milan 2 weeks ago +36C every daym the stuff that makes British people like you scream “we are all gonna die”, with WTF Gov ordering people NOT TO TRAVEL!!!
(checks birth certificate) No, I was around in 76… constant smell of burning as the local heathland went up (but no houses burning down).
I expect you were fooled by my (still) youthful good looks. See my agent for photos.
I very much doubt you’re good looking Griff. Your constant bitterness at being made to look a fool at WUWT must have you screwing up your face in anger.
And the record cold in Europe?
Oops, that doesn’t fit your narrative, does it?
You’re making a fool of yourself again Griff.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2022/04/04/europe-record-cold-france-agriculture/
I’m out on the London streets today and some people are back to wearing jumpers. It’s not exactly thermageddon, is it Griff?
I was wondering why all the fires? Even 40C does not cause spontaneous combustion, my pizzas tolerate 180C for 20 minutes without bursting into flames. The dryness associated with hot weather makes things more combustible, but fires still require a source of ignition. I see that some commentators on Youtube have suggested that it is suspicious and perhaps Extinction Rebellion activists are responsible (they are certainly mad enough). However I wondered just how unusual these fires are so I checked the UK Government website official statistics. In 2021 the Fire Services in England attended 147,295 fire incidents, of which 62,301 were classified as ‘primary fires’ – defined as those involving buildings or vehicles and/or that involved human fatalities or injuries and/or were attended by five or more pumping engines. Of these 27,015 were fires in dwellings – that’s 74 a day on average. Perhaps yesterday was unusual in the amount of reporting the fires received rather than their unusual number.
The extreme heat really dried out the grass: my lawn went from green to pale straw in days.
The big fire was witnessed starting in an overheated compost heap.
No greens are setting fires and the UK has ruled out space lasers.
On BBC North West news last night they reported that Merseyside Fire Brigade responded to 129 fires over the two hot days of which ” 71 had been started deliberately”
The Guardian yesterday also reported that a man had been arrested in France on suspicion of starting the blaze that destroyed 30, 000 acres of forest in the Gironde
Ooh! Your grass has dried out! Happens to UK grass every year. Get a grip man.
“ my lawn went from green to pale straw in days.”
That’s a matter of timing, not global warming.
“The big fire was witnessed starting in an overheated compost heap.”
The temp in a residential compost heat is generally from the “fermentation” inside the heap, not from the outside temp. Above about 120F to 160F the bacteria in the heap begins to die and that limits the actual temp the pile can reach. 120F to 160F temps won’t catch much of anything on fire.
“No greens are setting fires and the UK has ruled out space lasers.”
Again, my guess is many are from overloaded electrical wiring and outlets and poorly maintained fans. But I’ll guarantee you that a big percentage are from arsonists – whether green or not is irrelevant.
This hot weather will soon dissipate as it does every summer.
However, we will then move closer to our winter of discontent.
But there is nothing to worry about.
We just need to stick together.
Russia is using gas as a weapon.
We have to address our energy security at EU level.
We learnt from the pandemic that if we act in unity, we can address any crisis.
So let’s act together to reduce gas use and provide a safety net for all EU countries.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen
(my emphasis)
Except of course the winters are warmer too: unusual these days in southern England to see frost in winter before the new year
Don’t jinx it. Many lives are saved by having warmer winters rather than bitterly cold ones.
“Except, if you just move East of the UK several hundred miles, the “global heating hitting you in the face” is not so much…of course they wont tell you that a cold outbreak is right next door.”
If I’m reading the scale of that map correctly, the hot weather is a around 10-15 °C above the 1991-2020 average, whilst the cold parts are about 2-8 °C below that average.
So it isn’t a heatwave if it isn’t also a heatwave 700 miles away?
It’s not a GLOBAL heatwave due to climate change! It’s just local weather!
I was implying the opposite. This article is pretending that somehow the cooler weather in the east cancels out the heatwave in the west. I’m saying they are not comparable.
The dumb naive, scientifically ill-informed believers. Detest them all.
Really? There is a heatwave in the summertime? I’ve never heard of such a thing. Do you think it will last until fall?
There is an EXCEPTIONAL heatwave.
27C is a heatwave in the UK: 39 and 40C over a large area of the country is EXCEPTIONAL
Except the MET Office definition of a heatwave is
“when a location records a period of at least THREE consecutive days with daily maximum temperatures meeting or exceeding the heatwave temperature threshold”
Two days do not a heatwave make.
Yes but that definition requires the daily maximum to exceed 28ºC in the southeast, not 40ºC.
Yes. And in wintertime, global cooling can smack you in the face with below-zero windchills. Funny how the weather can sneak up on you and smack you in the face. These global warmunists could use a good swift kick in the you-know-where though.
They could have used this!
That didn’t work, so
“Yes! It is that hot”
The third one down here
https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2022/07/memes-that-made-me-laugh-117.html
An addition for your descriptives
“It is so hot that the jehovah’s witnesses have started telemarketing”
That pr*ck Justin Rowlatt has just been on the BBC waving around lots of maps that he scribbled over with his red crayon. He failed to mention the current cold records being broken around the world, of course.
Perhaps because he was on to talk about HEAT records being widely broken in the UK – by up to 1.5 degrees with never before seen in the records 40C heat
And a decent journalist would give it some balance. But Rowlatt isn’t an impartial journalist, he’s a biased activist. And if you watched his diatribe you would have seen how he manipulated the stats (and used silly colours) to suit his agenda.
Were there record breaking temps in the UK? Yes, by airports or other heat traps. Is that heat worth worrying about? No. It’s just weather. Just 2 days of it. If it was a genuine problem it would have lasted for a lot longer. Today is much colder. It’s weather Griff, nothing more (as I’m sure you’d claim during cold weather in the winter)
Warm is good Griff. Cold kills.
Why didn’t Rowlatt mention this record cold down in Australia? What do you have to say about it? After all, we are talking about global warming, aren’t we?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-14/alice-springs-record-breaking-winter-below-zero-bom/101237700
They all say 40 °C in Paris (Monday, Tuesday) yet the Montsouris station indicated I think 38 °C and in my living room I never got more than 33.3 °C away from the electronics. All electronic here (Internet, TV, PC).
I happen to be based in the suburbs of Paris, and so downloaded the data for the graph below just yesterday.
URL (in French !) : https://www.infoclimat.fr/climatologie-mensuelle/07156/juillet/2022/paris-montsouris.html
Tuesday (2 days ago now) was very uncomfortable, even staying indoors … but not (quite) as bad as 25/7/2019, which I still vividly remember as a “like an oven door open 2 or 3 feet in front of you” moment when I was obliged to go the supermarket that day !
Notes
– The 2022 peak was almost identical to the 1947 peak (~40.5°C) … that’s 75 years ago, when atmospheric CO2 levels were around 310-315 ppm …
– The 2003 heatwave was notable for its length, 10 days above 35°C in Paris, rather than its intensity (highest Tmax value), and resulted in ~15,200 excess deaths throughout France.
– The slightly shorter (7-day) and “cooler” 2020 heatwave resulted in ~1,900 excess deaths nationally … primarily due to the endless “Alert ! Canicule !” messages and TV news reports showing old-age home (EHPAD) residents “happily” drinking lots of water every time temperatures go above 30°C now …
Just recall that all those UK folk who cannot handle the heat were either sent to Australia or came voluntarily to settle this wide brown land of droughts and flooding rains and to this we add some very hot weather from time to time. Englishmen settled around Marble Bar and survived temperatures over 50 Celsius. Many places in the Australian summer exceed 40 degrees C not for a few days but weeks and yet those same English settlers not only survived but thrived. The climate change boosters are desperate and worse, for them, very few people take any notice any more. All they have is headlines and the words of some second rate scientist who has been found wanting many times in the past.
I have to think about where these temperatures were recorded. It is well known that many stations are sited at airports where heat island effects are acknowledged by climate scientists. So, before they become part of the HadCru record they undergo adjustment – presumably downwards. Now it appears they are happy to throw raw temperatures around when previously they told us you can’t use raw data for climate research.
There were 29 places which recorded higher temperatures than the previous 2019 record (from a botanic Garden).
a very large area of the UK saw those high temperatures… the records were clearly representative of a wide area and in no way skewed by location.
Just a few days ago, the weather services in Germany are screaming about a “never seen before” heatwave with temperatures of 35°C. Then somebody put this picture up see link below:
https://www.anderweltonline.com/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=1259&md5=15ccd534681dbbb49afa14e58bc084bb175761cb¶meters%5B0%5D=YTo0OntzOjU6IndpZHRoIjtzOjQ6IjgwMG0iO3M6NjoiaGVpZ2h0IjtzOjQ6IjYw¶meters%5B1%5D=MG0iO3M6NzoiYm9keVRhZyI7czo0MToiPGJvZHkgc3R5bGU9Im1hcmdpbjowOyBi¶meters%5B2%5D=YWNrZ3JvdW5kOiNmZmY7Ij4iO3M6NDoid3JhcCI7czozNzoiPGEgaHJlZj0iamF2¶meters%5B3%5D=YXNjcmlwdDpjbG9zZSgpOyI%2BIHwgPC9hPiI7fQ%3D%3D
The next day, fact-checkers were on the march saying that the purported 56°C was not in the shade etc .. One thing is sure: if you have 56°C in the sun, you’re also going to have at least 35°C or probably higher in the shade. But, what’s interesting to know is the year 1957: this give you the possibility to look at weather chronicles .. and bingo: here are three pdfs of chronicles clearly showing temps higher than 35°C in Austria, Germany and Switzerland during that year. So the media .. and the fact-checkers .. are simply dillusional.MittNatVerSt_88_0121-0126.pdf or Schulchronik Sürenheide.pdfis or Chronik Juli 1957 — baselland.ch (they are all in german, but there are online translators around…)
I don’t suppose the U.K. MSM has checked to see if any Brit has worked in Arizona or Nevada or Texas for a few months or maybe a year or two and lived to tell the tale?
No. Of course not. Silly me.
Dudes…it’s sooo hot outside I’ve seen tires melting on the roads….melting I tell you…..holly moly…..Pray for an Ice Age….
On that same ”record breaking” day of 40.3C at Heathrow airport, we hit an almost all time high of 33C here in Ireland, at one of our stations. That evening (Tuesday 19th July) it was 11C and some parts apparently it dropped to 9C.