CBS: “…the 2030s will bring “extreme [climate] events unprecedented in the observational record.” 

“Excruciating heat will make summers increasingly dangerous. Agriculture and food supplies will suffer. People will be forced to migrate. Costs of living will skyrocket. All of these factors — and more — will contribute to political and social instability worldwide.”

“Eight years left to turn the ship”: Scientists share how climate change could change daily life

BY LI COHEN
APRIL 27, 2022 / 12:23 PM / CBS NEWS

Earlier this month, more than 300 people in South Africa were killed as record rainfall washed away buildings and infrastructure in the Kwa-Zulu Natal province. A day earlier, dozens were killed in the Philippines after tropical storm Megi spurred landslides and floods. 

The world is rapidly shifting — and the impact of human-caused climate change is increasingly evident. 

“We’re in a very different place now from where we were even just a couple decades ago,” atmospheric physicist Alex Hall, director of the UCLA Center of Climate Science, told CBS News. 

Today’s extreme events are only a glimpse of what’s to come. 

“We are seeing already big increases in large storms. Hurricane Harvey hit Houston and Hurricane Sandy in New York,” said Hall, the atmospheric physicist. “…That’s what we’ve been predicting with a warmer world and we will have more of those types of impacts.”

This is why experts say carbon emissions must be addressed immediately. Carbon dioxide is the most abundant of the greenhouse gases — a set of gases that in large quantities create a sort of heavy blanket in the atmosphere that traps heat on Earth. In 2020, carbon dioxide accounted for roughly 79% of all greenhouse gas emissions in the U.S., according to the Environmental Protection Agency. 

As things are, people in the Pacific Northwest will likely see more intense heat waves and worsening air quality, Brosnan said, and the 20 million people who live less than 15 feet above sea level on island nations will be dealing with significant storm surge and economic repercussions as their land is swallowed by the sea. 

Excruciating heat will make summers increasingly dangerous. Agriculture and food supplies will suffer. People will be forced to migrate. Costs of living will skyrocket. All of these factors — and more — will contribute to political and social instability worldwide. 

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-climate-change-could-change-daily-life/

Back in the real world, cancellation of oil projects and fossil fuel shortages are a far bigger threat to economic security and quality of life than climate change.

I give these predictions two out of five Wadhams. They score well on providing a sense of atmospheric menace, but predictions of imminent apocalypse were way more fun when scientists tied future dates to concrete events, like Professor Wadhams’ hilarious predictions of all the arctic ice melting away.

Nowadays climate scientists appear to be way too timid to be specific. Their sincere belief in their overheating climate models might still drive them to make wild apocalyptic claims, but they have learned from the embarrassments of their colleagues.

Correction: CBS not CNBC – h/t Stephen.

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Tom Halla
April 29, 2022 10:06 am

The “We all gonna die right soon now” theme has been pushed for the past fifty years.

Vuk
Reply to  Tom Halla
April 29, 2022 10:10 am

Doomed we are not, step bravely into future !
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The darkness declares the glory of light. Thank you renewal energy you are our saviour.

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Bryan A
Reply to  Vuk
April 29, 2022 2:20 pm

I’ll give them their “Cost of Living will skyrocket”. That was Pres B.O.s plan when he was in office and Brandon is doing his share to ensure it comes about during his term. But it won’t be from CC direct effects, instead it is from Ill-guided political and ecological rhetoric and poor government direction WRT CC mandates

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Vuk
April 29, 2022 3:39 pm

Doomsday alarmism used to be the province of crazy-eyed old men standing on streetcorners with sandwich boards, shouting at anyone who walked past them.

Apparently, the overwhelmingly sexy allure of this exact lifestyle looked too compelling to pass up to the highly edumacated members of The Party Of Science™, although some are using more modern methods (see headline post), and have amplified the shouting to a screeching howl.
But some are sticking to the old ways, believing them to be best.

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Coach Springer
Reply to  Tom Halla
April 30, 2022 5:32 am

Pretty sure that that logic goes way back along with its corollary reaction of human sacrifice.

toorightmate
Reply to  Tom Halla
April 30, 2022 8:00 am

Tom,
It’s true I tell you.
I looked out the window this morning (in Brisbane Australia) and I could see, with my own eyes, that the climate was changing – catastrophically.
I looked out my window this afternoon and it was even worse!!!!
The climate was changing – apocolyptically.
I am scared shitless, to say the least.
On both occasions,it was bloody cold mate!!!
What should I do?

Slowroll
Reply to  Tom Halla
April 30, 2022 9:31 am

Used to be the end of the world sandwich board carriers were assorted religious fanatics. They still are, but God is missing.

Mr.
April 29, 2022 10:08 am

Carbon dioxide is the most abundant of the greenhouse gases 

Well oil beef hooked!

All these years I’ve been under the impression that water vapour was by far and away the biggest gorilla in the atmospheric gases playground.

Frank from NoVA
Reply to  Mr.
April 29, 2022 10:48 am

Fluent in both English and Scottish, I see.

Mr.
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
April 29, 2022 11:47 am

It’s my Irish ancestry that slips out occasionally.

spangled drongo
Reply to  Mr.
April 29, 2022 6:51 pm

If it’s Irish it should be: “Whale oil beef hooked”.

TonyL
Reply to  Mr.
April 29, 2022 11:08 am

You are doing it wrong. Here is a simple 3 step process for doing it right.

1) Open a window.
2) Fling all your science textbooks (all fields) out the window.
3) Now carbon dioxide is the most abundant greenhouse gas.

Easy.

David Kamakaris
Reply to  Mr.
April 29, 2022 11:24 am

“Well oil beef hooked!”

Hahahahahahahaha! Mr, you made my day!

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  Mr.
April 29, 2022 11:25 am

We MUST give up BEEF and other red meat and go VEGAN to save the world…here is the perfect solution.

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Philip
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
April 29, 2022 1:22 pm

I’d up vote that twenty times if they’d let me, I’m going to make a copy, print it off and put it on my fridge. Thanks

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Philip
April 29, 2022 11:18 pm

Got this one

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Notanacademic
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
April 29, 2022 1:56 pm

That really made me laugh. One up vote is not enough.

MJPenny
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
April 29, 2022 2:17 pm

I’m confident all the cows used in production of the burgers were vegetarians.

Hoyt Clagwell
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
April 29, 2022 2:25 pm

I’ll go as far as only eating animals that are vegetarians.

Andy Pattullo
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
April 29, 2022 2:55 pm

Agreed. Cats are far to gamey.

Brad-DXT
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
April 29, 2022 4:39 pm

Most carnivores taste bad. The worst meat I’ve ever tasted was lion. Even omnivores like bear are substandard.
Stick with eating vegetarians. Moose is the best.🥩

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Brad-DXT
April 30, 2022 9:01 pm

Even omnivores like bear are substandard.

Yes, but bears have the redeeming feature of tasting like what they have been eating. So, if you get one in the Fall when it has been eating berries, it will have a unique flavor.

Brad-DXT
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
May 1, 2022 9:29 am

The taste of game benefits from its diet. The deer I harvest from my property taste superior to deer from non-farming areas. That’s one of my concerns with the plight of farmers. If they don’t grow soybeans and corn, the deer I harvest will not be as tasty.

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  Brad-DXT
May 1, 2022 3:51 am

Hmmmm. Conjures an interesting image: man eating lion.

There are some exceptions. Alligator is very tasty. So is barracuda.

Brad-DXT
Reply to  Michael S. Kelly
May 1, 2022 9:33 am

In my opinion the only edible part of an alligator is the tail. The rest gives new meaning to the word “gamey”.
Never tried barracuda so I’ll have to take your word for it.

Hoyt Clagwell
Reply to  Mr.
April 29, 2022 2:24 pm

That’s why I’m going to keep watering my lawn in Los Angeles during the drought. Got to get rid of the main source of water vapor that’s causing this drought!

Eamon Butler
Reply to  Mr.
April 29, 2022 3:55 pm

”Well oil beef hooked!”
Brilliant. +100s.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Eamon Butler
April 29, 2022 5:16 pm

Took me a bit to figger that one out, but yes.

Sam Capricci
Reply to  Eamon Butler
April 30, 2022 5:51 pm

Until I read it the fourth time I didn’t get it. Now I can’t stop giggling.

Olen
April 29, 2022 10:14 am

The first sentence is more of a goal than a prediction that may come true if election fraud is allowed to continue and legal voters are cut out of the election.

Brad-DXT
Reply to  Olen
April 29, 2022 5:27 pm

The leftists pulling the strings are not waiting for the weather to change. They are purposely creating food and energy shortages.
One of the first things Biden did was cancel the Keystone pipeline and cut down on drilling. Now someone has convinced railroads to cut back on fertilizer and seed shipments – right at the start of planting season.
The poultry farmers are forced to cull their flocks if the Bird Flu is detected with a PCR test in one of their birds.
Costs to farmers are already high and now they are not going to have anything to plant or raise.
When food shortages happen, they will blame it on climate change and Putin. No one will believe them except the ignorant but they don’t care.

Clyde Spencer
April 29, 2022 10:16 am

Carbon dioxide is the most abundant of the greenhouse gases …

So, Cohen doesn’t think that water vapor is a greenhouse gas. There goes the feedback loop that is supposed to drive warming!

Phantor48
April 29, 2022 10:19 am

Unprecedented …. just like the 2020’s. And the 2010’s. And the 2000’s. And the 1990’s. And the 1980’s. And the 1970’s. …. And the Cenozoic. And the Mesozoic. And the Paleozoic. I think these alarmunists need some new schtick.

Mr David Guy-Johnson
April 29, 2022 10:32 am

Alex Hall you are either a fool or a liar. I think your first name is really Arse, what say you Mr Arse Hall?

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  Mr David Guy-Johnson
April 29, 2022 11:34 am

To carry around that volume of lies, he would need to be named Arse HAUL.

Curious George(@moudryj)
Reply to  Mr David Guy-Johnson
April 29, 2022 1:01 pm

I drew a different conclusion: Dr. Hall plans to retire in 2029.

Steve Case
April 29, 2022 11:01 am

IPCC AR4 Chapter 10 Page 750 says:

Temperature Extremes

It is very likely that heat waves will be more intense, more frequent and longer lasting in a future warmer climate. Cold episodes are projected to decrease significantly in a future warmer climate. Almost everywhere, daily minimum temperatures are projected to increase faster than daily maximum temperatures, leading to a decrease in diurnal temperature range. Decreases in frost days are projected to occur almost everywhere in the middle and high latitudes, with a comparable increase in growing season length.

Mean Precipitation

For a future warmer climate, the current generation of models indicates that precipitation generally increases in the areas of regional tropical precipitation maxima (such as the monsoon regimes) and over the tropical Pacific in particular, with general decreases in the subtropics, and increases at high latitudes as a consequence of a general intensification of the global hydrological cycle. Globally averaged mean water vapour, evaporation and precipitation are projected to increase.
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Boiled down that’s warmer nights, winters and a warmer Arctic, plus longer growing seasons and more rain. You can add the benefit that increased CO2 has on all green plants and food production.

The decrease in the diurnal temperature range is not a recipe for increases in extreme weather.

 

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Stephen Lindsay-Yule
Reply to  Steve Case
April 29, 2022 12:25 pm

Fortunately this isn’t what is being observed. No where near. Average freezing line in the northern hemisphere in February was 47° N latitude. Sea ice in an area of Antarctic reaches 56° S latitude. Northern Japan mountains receive 60 inches of snow. 37°N 139°E in February. Sea ice still reaches 45°N on the eastern side of Russia. England has Atlantic air most of winter (no frost) but this year had 26 days of frost nights. The sun controls climate not carbon dioxide. Carbon absorbs solar energy and not the earth surface above -50°C. This solar heating happens in the stratosphere and radiative cooling in the mesosphere.

Sam Capricci
Reply to  Steve Case
April 30, 2022 5:55 pm

If they can’t get it to happen because “nature doesn’t cooperate“, their plan will then be to get all that to happen based on their policies. Interfere with the supply chain, decrease the amount of fertilizer that is available, interfere with the production of energy, it’s all recipe to get everything they want to happen, to happen. Then they’ll tell you how prescient they are.

TonyL
April 29, 2022 11:04 am

This is another case of “Here we go again”.
I thought it was just me getting a bit jaded, perhaps from hanging out at WUWT too long. Then I realized, no it really is because I have seen it all before, many times and right here.

Witness:
All from earlier *today* here at WUWT.
#1 – The model shows there will be great pandemics of disease and death due to species migration.
#2 – Models show glaciers will collapse due to melt water seeping to the bottom of the glacier and lubricating it’s slide into DOOM.
#3 – Models show all the oceans of the world will die due to pollution and lack of oxygen.

All three have been highlighted, and debunked many, many times here. No wonder we feel like we have seen all this stuff before. I do not think there has been anything new for at least 20 years. They just keep throwing the same garbage out there over and over again. The oceans undergoing a great die off is particularly old. We easily trace this one back to 1968 and “The Population Bomb”, that wretched bit of alarmist fiction.

And so it goes. Here we have another recycling of Extreme Events.

Eric Worrall says:
predictions of imminent apocalypse were way more fun when scientists tied future dates to concrete events

I like this one, setting a firm date in the near future. I especially like the 8 years, in exact keeping with the future prophesy of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her “DOOM in 12 years”, which was 3 years ago. Also, of course, we will not have to wait too long before debunking the claim.

And the beat goes on.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  TonyL
April 29, 2022 3:08 pm

Since we’re all doomed, why should we even care what the 2030’s will bring? It’s after 5 on a
Friday night, so I’m gonna party like Rodney!

Rob_Dawg
April 29, 2022 11:04 am

The wholesale abandonment of farmland due to high fertilizer and fuel costs and punitive water allocations resulting in more airborne dust in California’s Central Valley. Any guesses what gets blamed instead?

DMacKenzie
April 29, 2022 11:12 am

“Cost of living will skyrocket”
One out of 4 isn’t bad for predicting the future.

b.nice
Reply to  DMacKenzie
April 29, 2022 1:32 pm

Cause is the Biden destruction of the economy…

Nothing to do with atmospheric CO2

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  b.nice
April 29, 2022 5:19 pm

CO2 made Biden do it. There, fixed.

gbaikie
April 29, 2022 11:13 am

–Nowadays climate scientists appear to be way too timid to be specific. Their sincere belief in their overheating climate models might still drive them to make wild apocalyptic claims, but they have learned from the embarrassments of their colleagues.–

Being timid, would require hanging as punishment, if there was a real threat.
But we live in an Ice Age, and warming good, if in the Late Cenozoic Ice Age.
Particularly when you in coldest time of this Ice Age

George Daddis
April 29, 2022 11:14 am

“..worsening air quality..”
How can that be related to “Climate Change”? Developed nations are doing very well thank, you, re air and water quality, no small part due to healthy economies driven by fossil fuels.

David Dibbell
April 29, 2022 11:15 am

“Carbon dioxide is the most abundant of the greenhouse gases — a set of gases that in large quantities create a sort of heavy blanket in the atmosphere that traps heat on Earth.”

Meanwhile, the NOAA GOES-EAST (GOES-16) geostationary satellite is picking up these emitter outputs in band 16, the “CO2” band centered at a wavelength of 13.3 microns. There is an awful lot of motion and variable output from the planet in the same wavelengths from which unwarranted concern arises over the absorption and emission properties of CO2 in the atmosphere. (For those interested in numbers, the radiance at 50C on the “brightness temperature” scale in these visualizations is 13 times the radiance at -90C.)

Bottom line: It’s not a trap! It’s a huge array of powered, highly variable emitter elements. And it is highly self-regulating as the formation and dissipation of clouds from all the motion has such a huge effect on the output to space.

Thank you for tolerating my comment again on this same point. The link below is to an 8-hour animation.

https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/fulldisk_band.php?sat=G16&band=16&length=48&dim=1

Steve Case
Reply to  David Dibbell
April 29, 2022 11:38 am

“Carbon dioxide is the most abundant of the greenhouse gases…”
____________________________________________________

No, water vapor is.

David Dibbell
Reply to  Steve Case
April 29, 2022 11:50 am

True! And still, with the astounding excess of water available to become vapor, it’s not a “trap.”

TEWS_Pilot
April 29, 2022 11:21 am

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Jason H
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
April 29, 2022 11:44 am

Only 41? So far I’ve counted four just today.

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  Jason H
April 29, 2022 1:22 pm

OwlGore is asking for a refund on his Greta Thunberg autographed Dominion “Doom and Gloom Predictions Counter.”

Hoyt Clagwell
Reply to  Jason H
April 29, 2022 2:27 pm

Doesn’t count. Those are repeats from last year. And the year before. And the year before that, etc. etc.

H.R.
Reply to  Hoyt Clagwell
April 29, 2022 5:12 pm

Yup. The predictions never change. Only the goalposts move.

Stephen Dudley Haner
April 29, 2022 11:25 am

CBS is not CNBC. Not even close.

Martin Buchanan
Reply to  Stephen Dudley Haner
April 29, 2022 12:59 pm

…a distinction without a difference.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Martin Buchanan
April 29, 2022 3:32 pm

It was CNBC’s Rick Santelli’s rant that started the Tea Party! 😮

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHbjenBMLno

I also picked up a lot of insight into Wall Street from Jumpin’ Jim Cramer’s “Mad Money”
many years ago. Other than sports, I can’t think of anything good about CBS.

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  Stephen Dudley Haner
April 29, 2022 1:23 pm

C BS

H.R.
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
April 29, 2022 5:15 pm

And now, we all can do the BS part without saying a word.

WUWT… informative and entertaining.

paul
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
April 29, 2022 5:57 pm

LOL, oh yes !

paul
Reply to  Stephen Dudley Haner
April 29, 2022 5:56 pm

no matter… both worthless

Climate believer
April 29, 2022 11:26 am

In the recent French elections the greens were thrown out in the first round with only 4.63% of the vote.

If you get to 5%, you get your campagne costs paid for by the state….. Doh!!

Europe Écologie-Les Verts are now in debt to the tune of 8 million euros.

Nobody believes your doom mongering anymore… bye bye watermelons.

Bindidon
Reply to  Climate believer
April 29, 2022 3:09 pm

Don’t think I’m defending the Greens here. No interest!

I just want to underscore your absolute ignorance of the facts.

*
The current presidential election in 2022 was marked by a bitter struggle between three tendencies:
– the party currently in power (middle left) with Emmanuel Macron
– the extreme right with Marine Le Pen
– the extreme left with Jean-Luc Mélenchon.

This led to an unprecedented polarization that prematurely demoted nearly all other parties, even the formerly largest ones, to irrelevant extras, all receiving less than 5%:
– the Socialists (who used to have several presidents, most recently Hollande (2012-2017), who experienced an absolute fiasco with less than 2%;
– the traditional right, which provided even more presidents, most recently Chirac and Sarkozy (1995-2012);
– the Greens and the Communist Party.

If you want to ridicule other people, you should find out more beforehand – instead of looking at them through the wrong side of the telescope.

Bindidon
Reply to  Bindidon
April 29, 2022 3:33 pm

It was too late to edit the comment, thus I add this below.

The next relevant factor contributing to the distortion of the political electoral landscape was undoubtedly Russia’s military invasion of Ukraine, which completely eclipsed the ‘candidate’ Macron behind the figure of the incumbent president.

Climate believer
Reply to  Bindidon
April 30, 2022 12:20 am

“I just want to underscore your absolute ignorance of the facts.”

I gave the facts and nothing but the facts, your ridiculous attempt at derision is laughable.

Facts don’t care about your amateur spin on events, and neither do I.

Richard Page
Reply to  Bindidon
April 30, 2022 3:12 am

I fail to see why you posted this – despite the rhetoric, you have agreed 100% with Climate believer who’s statement is factually correct – the Greens utterly failed to reach the 5% target that would have their expenses paid for and now owe 8 million euros. End of story – I’m not really interested in a blow by blow description of the performance of every party in the French Election, it adds no context and is frankly irrelevant.

Bindidon
Reply to  Climate believer
April 30, 2022 11:57 am

Thanks to you both for showing your common denial of facts.

Especially Richard Page was really excellent in the job.

Forrest Gardener
Reply to  Bindidon
May 2, 2022 2:29 am

You contributed nothing relevant to what Climate believer wrote. All you did was to insert your opinions. And then you turn around and claim your opinions are facts.

Begone.

commieBob
April 29, 2022 11:38 am

…the 2030s will bring “extreme [climate] events unprecedented in the observational record.

Absolutely true!

Every day of the year, there are weather records set somewhere on the face of the Earth. The cherry pickers will take those to prove their CAGW narrative.

I can’t find the link but I recall Bill Clinton joking that Al Gore claiming that, when the sun rose in the east, it proved global warming.

Rud Istvan
April 29, 2022 11:49 am

The problem they now have is that all this bad stuff was already supposed to happen, but it didn’t.
No increase in drought or flood.
No increase in tropical storm ACE
No increase in F3-5 tornadoes.
Children still know snow.
Arctic summer ice didn’t disappear.
Oceans didn’t ‘acidify’ because AR4 forgot buffering chemistry.
Sea level rise didn’t accelerate.

After 4 decades of failed predictions, the ‘but it’s gonna’ assertions aren’t credible.

TEWS_Pilot
Reply to  Rud Istvan
April 29, 2022 1:25 pm

Are you saying I should ask for my money back on that surplus reconditioned 1953 Atomic Bomb Shelter I bought on eBay and had installed in the back yard using ONLY “Green” technology?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
April 29, 2022 5:23 pm

You must have misread the description. What you bought was a human composting bin.

OweninGA
Reply to  TEWS_Pilot
April 30, 2022 7:01 pm

Actually with Russia’s media prepping the Russian people for acceptance of nuclear war, you might need that bomb shelter for its original purpose.

Philip
Reply to  Rud Istvan
April 29, 2022 1:34 pm

True, maybe it’s time to chop up chicken little and send him to Colonel Sanders for disposal and let CNBC choke on it.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Philip
April 29, 2022 5:24 pm

“What’s the matter Colonel Sanders? Chicken??”

Sorry, it was there, I had to use it.

Philip
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
April 29, 2022 8:08 pm

All good.

Herbert
Reply to  Rud Istvan
April 29, 2022 11:06 pm

Rud,
Take the opening sentence here on deaths from flooding in South Africa and The Phillipines.
They are talking about three hundred plus tragic deaths from flooding, allegedly occasioned by climate change.
If you Google “China Floods 1931”,one can read about the 1931 Yangtze-Huai River Floods between June and August 1931 regarded as one of the worst disasters in human history where the flooding occurred over an area the combined size of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut.
From drowning, starvation and the following cholera epidemic of 1932 the range of deaths is 422,000 to 4 million depending on who you believe.
No accurate figure will ever be known.
May I ask rhetorically, what part did Climate Change play in the 1930s China floods?
The blind obsession of the current alarmist narrative knows no bounds.

ResourceGuy
April 29, 2022 12:07 pm

Press freedom is a lot different than the rules companies and markets have to follow.

Andy Wilkins
April 29, 2022 12:08 pm

Carbon dioxide is the most abundant of the greenhouse gases

This absolute rubbish means the whole article is junk

Tom Abbott
April 29, 2022 12:09 pm

From the article: “The world is rapidly shifting — and the impact of human-caused climate change is increasingly evident.

“We’re in a very different place now from where we were even just a couple decades ago,” atmospheric physicist Alex Hall, director of the UCLA Center of Climate Science, told CBS News. ”

Absolutely False! This is a figment of Mr. Hall’s mind. All the evidence says just the opposite.

Dave
April 29, 2022 12:35 pm

Ah yes, CNBC, that unbiased source of all climate information. On the bright side, sort of, I see California has decided that that ol’ debil, nuclear power, isn’t so diabolical after all; the state has applied for some of our tax dollars to bail out its one remaining nuke facility, to keep the lights on while transitioning to a ‘fossil’ fuel future. What the state needs, short of a political enema, is a lot more nukes, because it’ll need them to power all those electric vehicles mandated by the leftist twits in office. Maybe this move will forestall these terrible climate disasters CNBC says are looming right around the corner.

Mike Maguire
April 29, 2022 12:44 pm

The biggest problem relates to the effective brainwashing strategy imposed by all the major gatekeepers/sources colluding with widespread DISinformation, defining a fake climate crisis….very similar to this.
Once you convince people of something, they process all new information differently via cognitive bias which is anti scientific.
They have an extreme tendency to believe things that are consistent with what they think that they know and reject everything that contradicts it.

This makes it almost impossible for them to scrutinize something that they already believe in.
Top that off with people intentionally going to sources that tell them what they like to hear…..confirmation of their belief system being authentic and the complete, intentional indoctrination of our young people in the climate crisis cult by the education system and we have the recipe and reasons for why things have evolved in this irrational, anti authentic science manner.

Sweet Old Bob
April 29, 2022 12:57 pm

“In the U.S., the heat is fueling 44 large fires across nearly a dozen states. ”

Really ??
What is the ignition temperature of heat ?
Does it have a flash point ?
Can Greta see it ?

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
April 29, 2022 3:37 pm

Questions journalists will never ask- Were they caused by arsonists? bad forest management?
What is the highest acreage burned in one year ever? the highest 5-yr average? 10-yr average? …

kybill
April 29, 2022 1:03 pm

Doesn’t make any difference. Six years ago AOC told us we only had 10 more years.

Doc Chuck
April 29, 2022 1:07 pm

I can’t tell you how proud I am lately of my UCLA alma mater. No, I really can’t! Of course it’s over a half century since the honorable conduct I encountered there, but it’s increasingly notable how much bad faith ‘information’ is disseminated from there. Not that truth-telling should concern any self-respecting university, you understand.

That also makes me old enough to recall a once deservedly proud Columbia Broadcasting System (identifying itself with shedding light in every direction much as the torch of a statuesque Miss Liberty) previous to its current thorough unreliability as either a factual source or spin-free manipulator of nearly every phrase introducing a matter at hand.

billtoo
April 29, 2022 1:31 pm

Naah. Joe Biden will be out by then.

John the Econ
April 29, 2022 1:35 pm

I stopped caring after the impending ice age killed me back in the ’80s.

Robert of Texas
April 29, 2022 1:51 pm

Wait a minute…the world ends in 2031 according to AOC, so who is going to observe all of these extreme events after that point?

Gordon A. Dressler
April 29, 2022 1:58 pm

Per the above article, Li Cohen of CBS News states:
“This is why experts say carbon emissions must be addressed immediately. Carbon dioxide is the most abundant of the greenhouse gases.”

Sorry, Mr./Ms. Cohen, but that is just plain scientifically FALSE.

Water vapor is recognized by all climate scientists—at least those knowledgeable enough to talk seriously about greenhouse gases—as being by far the predominate greenhouse gas in Earth’s atmosphere. This is due to (a) greater LWIR absorption efficiency of the unsymmetrical H2O molecule that has a permanent dipole moment, unlike the symmetrical CO2 molecule, (b) the absorption bands of water vapor in the LWIR spectrum over which Earth radiates across its min/max temperature range being far broader than those of CO2, and (c) the far greater average concentration of water vapor in the atmosphere compared to that of CO2.

Water vapor in air, with any dew point above -28 °C (-18 °F) at sea-level pressure will have a relative humidity of 1.8% or higher at 21 °C (70 °F), equivalent to a water vapor concentration greater than 460 ppmv
—- source: https://www.asge-online.com/pdf/ASGEpg185.pdf (among others)

And for reference, “In a desert, RH {relative humidity} is commonly around 15-25%.”
— source: https://www.e-education.psu.edu/earth111/node/557
So, a 15% minimum humidity level is more than 8 times higher than the level that corresponds to 460 ppmv water vapor. That concentration can be compared to today’s concentration of about 420 ppmv CO2 in Earth’s atmosphere.

Thus, CO2 is not even close to water vapor in terms of being a significant greenhouse gas, but this, ahem, “inconvenient” truth refuses to be acknowledged by the greater part of both the “less educated” (not meant as a pejorative term) and almost all AGW/CAGW alarmists, including quite a few scientists who simply should know better.

Bottom line: if anyone really wants to control greenhouse gases and their effect of “warming the planet”, then they clearly should start with controlling/limiting water vapor in Earth’s atmosphere . . . and good luck with that!

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Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
April 29, 2022 3:45 pm

The measured increase of water vapor molecules is much faster than possible from just planet warming and 7 times faster than the measured increase of CO2 molecules. The increased warming from water vapor molecules completely overshadows any warming from increasing CO2 molecules. http://globalclimatedrivers2.blogspot.com

TPW meas & calc GISS & 5 29 RH thru Dec 2021 6.7 % FB.jpg
Shoki Kaneda
April 29, 2022 2:07 pm

“It’s tough to make predictions, especially about the future.”
— Yogi Berra

Bruce Cobb
April 29, 2022 2:14 pm

Ms. Cohen seems to be suffering from a case of what I like to call the “Climate Vapors”. Perhaps a Zanax and a good lie down would help.

ScienceABC123
April 29, 2022 2:24 pm

Synopsis: Alarmists: “It didn’t happen in the 2000s so we moved the date to the 2010s. It didn’t happen in the 2010s so we moved the date to the 2020s. It’s not happening in the 2020s so we’re moving the date to the 2030s.”

I’ve got $100 that says I know what their going to say in the 2030s. Something about the 2040s…

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Eric Worrall
April 29, 2022 2:46 pm

And, by then, dealing with radioactive fallout from mini-WWIII is not totally out of the realm of possibilities.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  ScienceABC123
April 29, 2022 5:19 pm

Remember shame?
They don’t.

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PCman999
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
April 29, 2022 9:56 pm

Well they do remember how effective it was in keeping people on the straight and narrow – helping them to avoid acting like animals.

Now shame has been removed from human interactions and weaponized for political gain – to shame people for the sin of wanting to get to work on time by using their own vehicle, or the sin of eating a nice steak, back in the day we could afford it.

Michael in Dublin
April 29, 2022 2:36 pm

Earlier this month, more than 300 people in South Africa were killed as record rainfall washed away buildings and infrastructure in the Kwa-Zulu Natal province. 

I hate it when news reports begin with a statement like this. It reveals a dismal ignorance of the situation and weather patterns in this area in the past. A century ago considerably fewer people lived here and most not in the areas where the worst flooding would occur. Today many are living in shack settlements where local authorities should have prevented them from living. Poverty and unemployment of over 50% contributes to the problem.

One feature of the eastern parts of South Africa is that annual flows of 600% to 300% of the average have occurred during wet years” (Dr P Roberts – former Deputy DG of Water Affairs). In many parts of the world people are not used to these huge variations which are common in countries that alternate between floods and droughts. The challenge is not to engineer the climate but simply to adapt to these conditions, to capture and store water in the good years for the dry ones and to have human settlements in safer areas.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
April 29, 2022 3:44 pm

” It reveals a dismal ignorance …”

Climatistas seem to be selectively ignorant about a lot of things especially facts!

PCman999
Reply to  Old Man Winter
April 29, 2022 10:00 pm

They are even ignorant of what even the IPCC says about such events. Seems like the propaganda has taken on a life of its own.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
April 29, 2022 6:51 pm

It’s not ignorance, it’s propaganda.

Harves
April 29, 2022 3:24 pm

“Excruciating heat will make summers increasingly dangerous. Agriculture and food supplies will suffer.”

The 1990’s just called. They want their predictions back.

Nicholas McGinley
April 29, 2022 3:34 pm

It is almost as if the more wrong predictions they make, the more they step up the alarmism, and the more certainty they attach to their own predictive skill.

Wait, skip the ” It is almost as if” part.

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Eamon Butler
April 29, 2022 3:49 pm

And so, on it goes. In 2030, there will be a number of very disgruntled advocates, feeling a bit let down and disappointed. But, there will be a whole new generation of newbies, advocating the end of the world is nigh, and, with great enlightenment, our amateur alarmists of today, will attempt to warn them not to fall for the same BS they were told to believe. But will they listen?… Nope. On it goes.

Derek Colman
April 29, 2022 3:54 pm

As soon as a scientist cites hurricane Harvey, I know they are being dishonest. In 1900 the great hurricane which struck Galveston, just 47 miles from Houston, was far more devastating. It completely destroyed Galveston with an estimated death toll of 6,000 to 12,000. Similarly with hurricane Sandy. A storm surge of the same height hit there previously but did less damage because it occurred at low tide while hurricane Harvey hit at high tide. They rely on peoples ignorance to push their alarming narrative.

Ted
April 29, 2022 7:20 pm

“Hurricane Sandy in New York,“ – Sandy was not a hurricane when it hit New York. They can’t even bring themselves to be a little bit accurate.

PCman999
Reply to  Ted
April 29, 2022 10:03 pm

Accuracy is the biggest enemy of propaganda.

PCman999
April 29, 2022 9:24 pm

When are they going to give up on these predictions that never come about?

Even the Jehovah’s Witnesses eventually stopped putting a date to their doomsday predictions.

Don’t they ever feel embarrassed by failed predictions?

Boff Doff
April 29, 2022 10:18 pm

To be clear: The West should sacrifice everything so that Russia, China and India can increase emissions which will cause the earth to boil anyway, no matter what anyone else does, because they are not going to stop.

Got it.

.KcTaz
April 29, 2022 10:42 pm

These predictions sound pretty much like the predictions that they began making right after the equally hysterical predictions of the Ice Age Cometh didn’t and it warmed. They just won’t quit, will they?
I note that, at least in what’s quoted here, they are sticking to dire predictions of CAGW without positing a date certain, though the 2030s is a bit of a commitment, though, giving themselves 18 years is a considerable amount of time. Perhaps, this is after their retirement dates? Maybe they are capable of learning. Too bad avoiding setting a date certain on their disasters is all they seem to have learned after all their other failed predictions of the last 50+ years.

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April 29, 2022 10:49 pm

I only red the intro on the front page.
Was enogh to declare it to what it is:
BS^10

J.R.
April 29, 2022 10:54 pm

Good Lord. What motivates these people? How is their psychology explained? Year after year, decade after decade, “Doom is upon us! Destruction is at hand!” People who call themselves scientists engaging in the antithesis of scientific thought and communication. It’s tedious, but it’s also highly destructive.

Forrest Gardener
Reply to  J.R.
May 2, 2022 2:39 am

It puts food on the dinner table.

RoHa
April 29, 2022 11:14 pm

Oh, good. We’re still doomed, then. I was getting worried that things might turn out OK.

April 30, 2022 1:59 am

Every day somewhere on earth there are extreme climate events unprecedented in the observational record. That’s normal climate.

Coach Springer
April 30, 2022 5:29 am

Agriculture and food supplies will suffer. People will be forced to migrate. Costs of living will skyrocket.”

I don’t know about climate, but I’m sure the weather will be bad at times over the decade – and absolutely certain progressives are hard at work on the above and won’t need bad weather to achieve those goals.

S Browne
April 30, 2022 8:05 pm

Where’s the Disinformation Board when you need them? If this doesn’t qualify, nothing does.

SocietalNorm
May 1, 2022 7:48 pm

Wow, some people are really sensitive to a 0.1C temperature difference! I guess that’s why they call them snowflakes.

Jim
May 2, 2022 7:47 pm

This Australian Bush ballad sums it up.

SAID HANRAHAN by John O’Brien

“We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
In accents most forlorn,
Outside the church, ere Mass began,
One frosty Sunday morn.

The congregation stood about,
Coat-collars to the ears,
And talked of stock, and crops, and drought,
As it had done for years.

“It’s looking crook,” said Daniel Croke;
“Bedad, it’s cruke, me lad,
For never since the banks went broke
Has seasons been so bad.”

“It’s dry, all right,” said young O’Neil,
With which astute remark
He squatted down upon his heel
And chewed a piece of bark.

And so around the chorus ran
“It’s keepin’ dry, no doubt.”
“We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“Before the year is out.”

“The crops are done; ye’ll have your work
To save one bag of grain;
From here way out to Back-o’-Bourke
They’re singin’ out for rain.

“They’re singin’ out for rain,” he said,
“And all the tanks are dry.”
The congregation scratched its head,
And gazed around the sky.

“There won’t be grass, in any case,
Enough to feed an ass;
There’s not a blade on Casey’s place
As I came down to Mass.”

“If rain don’t come this month,” said Dan,
And cleared his throat to speak –
“We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“If rain don’t come this week.”

A heavy silence seemed to steal
On all at this remark;
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed a piece of bark.

“We want an inch of rain, we do,”
O’Neil observed at last;
But Croke “maintained” we wanted two
To put the danger past.

“If we don’t get three inches, man,
Or four to break this drought,
We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“Before the year is out.”

In God’s good time down came the rain;
And all the afternoon
On iron roof and window-pane
It drummed a homely tune.

And through the night it pattered still,
And lightsome, gladsome elves
On dripping spout and window-sill
Kept talking to themselves.

It pelted, pelted all day long,
A-singing at its work,
Till every heart took up the song
Way out to Back-o’-Bourke.

And every creek a banker ran,
And dams filled overtop;
“We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“If this rain doesn’t stop.”

And stop it did, in God’s good time;
And spring came in to fold
A mantle o’er the hills sublime
Of green and pink and gold.

And days went by on dancing feet,
With harvest-hopes immense,
And laughing eyes beheld the wheat
Nid-nodding o’er the fence.

And, oh, the smiles on every face,
As happy lad and lass
Through grass knee-deep on Casey’s place
Went riding down to Mass.

While round the church in clothes genteel
Discoursed the men of mark,
And each man squatted on his heel,
And chewed his piece of bark.

“There’ll be bush-fires for sure, me man,
There will, without a doubt;
We’ll all be rooned,” said Hanrahan,
“Before the year is out.”

Around the Boree Log and Other Verses, 1921

Oddgeir
May 4, 2022 9:22 am

Anyone noticed that we’re, even with no temperature increase, at an ENGINEERED, political elites willed, enforced, premeditated Reset, a Build-Back-Better, a WEF, a COP, Climate Fiction argued New Economic World Order…

Where the result already is…

Agriculture and food supplies will suffer. People will be forced to migrate. Costs of living will skyrocket. All of these factors — and more — will contribute to political and social instability worldwide.”

Oddgeir

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