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Native Americans Rejecting Biden’s Green Energy Revolution Infrastructure

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Native Americans recoiling in horror at plans to desecrate their lands, by extracting the minerals and building the transmission lines President Biden needs to fulfil his promised green energy revolution.

As miners chase clean-energy minerals across the West, tribes fear a repeat of the past 

Dec. 28, 2021 at 2:21 pm Updated Dec. 28, 2021 at 5:33 pm

By Mike Baker and JACK HEALYThe New York Times

“They used to say you could walk across the river on the backs of salmon,” he said one rainy autumn morning as he tallied and measured the depleted stocks of young Chinook salmon that hatch in these mountain creeks. “Now, it’s totally different. It’s devastating, if you think about it.”

President Joe Biden came into office vowing to safeguard Native American resources like these and uphold the rights of tribes. But in the rolling headwaters of central Idaho, where mining interests have long overrun tribal rights, the administration’s promise is colliding with another priority: starting a renewable energy revolution.

Perpetua says its Idaho mine holds enough antimony to one day power 1 million homes using hulking batteries linked to solar farms. Perpetua and its partner, battery-maker Ambri, say the batteries could revolutionize America’s power grids.

But the batteries are a new technology that have yet to prove their effectiveness in the real world. And it will likely be at least another five years before any Perpetua project is able to deliver any antimony.

The tribes say the mines would damage their lands, siphon scarce water and desecrate burial grounds and ceremonial sites.

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The article mentions President Trump wanted to fast track approval for the mine. A priority for President Trump was reducing US dependence on foreign supplies of strategically sensitive minerals, and Antimony is one of those minerals. Antimony is an essential component of military infrared sensors, such as night vision and targeting systems. Antimony is also used to create durable electronic solder alloys, and sheathing for electronic cables, and plenty of other advanced applications.

President Biden initially deferred President Trump’s approval for the mine, but the Native Americans are worried Biden might be about to backtrack on his promise to protect their lands.

Regardless of the fate of Perpetua’s proposed mine, the Native Americans are correct in their belief that a vast expansion of mineral extraction could be imminent. Biden is going to need a lot more than one controversial antimony mine to build his net zero green revolution.

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Tom Halla
December 29, 2021 10:09 am

I would conclude the Indians object to the mine because of the “trustee” nature of the Department of the Interior cutting sweetheart deals that short the tribes.

Reply to  Tom Halla
December 29, 2021 10:55 am

1 million homes seems hardly worth the effort in regards to electricity supply but could provide a pretty financial bonus for a small group.

Bill Powers
Reply to  AndyHce
December 30, 2021 3:19 pm

In your search for truth, Andy, I see you correctly follow the money.

Leo Smith
December 29, 2021 10:16 am

Every indian tribe should fund a nuclear reactor, and live like kings selling the electricity to greens

Reply to  Leo Smith
December 29, 2021 10:35 am

Not a joke. Free of state and federal oversight there’s enough reservation land around the USA to provide the country with electricity. In today’s environment anyone would be hard pressed to deny them this opportunity. Although I’m sure some would try to find a reason to stop it.

Reply to  markl
December 29, 2021 12:42 pm

there is more to it, if the tribes buy land, it becomes part of the reservation, and states have no jurisdiction over the land

alastair gray
Reply to  Leo Smith
December 29, 2021 11:18 am

The “tribal leaders” just like the “mad muftis community leaders in the UK ” are bribed to endorse policy and the tribal massess can go hang.

Reply to  alastair gray
December 29, 2021 1:20 pm

You mean to tell me it’s the same like in Oz?

The solar farm consists of more than 160,000 panels and is located on 120 hectares of land on Nyiyaparli Country, and contract value of $4.7m was awarded to Indigenous owned enterprises, Alinta says.
Fortescue and Alinta switch on Australia’s biggest solar farm outside of main grids | RenewEconomy

No sacred sites or problems ‘being on country’ flattening 20 squ metres of land per kW with that one. See how they go trying to flatten 5000 squ metres of land to fuel a 250kW Supercharger for all the blow-in Tesla owners where they hang out and things could get a lot more sacred.

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Leo Smith
December 29, 2021 12:01 pm

That really should be doable, given recent advances in package nuclear. Funding it with the profits from casinos and tourist attractions that have no energy bills is definitely a win-win in my opinion. Leftover power from the reservation could be sold on the grid, especially at the times when it is most expensive due to scarcity.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Leo Smith
December 29, 2021 3:43 pm

Not needed; their casinos do the trick.

Reply to  Leo Smith
December 30, 2021 2:02 am

They certainly seem to be embracing renewables, since fossil fuel hasn’t to date provided them with electricity…

Renewables provide more than just energy to Native American communities | The Optimist Daily

Reply to  griff
December 30, 2021 2:17 pm

The fact that wind and solar can work for areas that are far off the grid has never been denied.
The fact remains that as soon as the grid becomes available, wind and solar are always quickly abandoned.

Dennis G Sandberg
December 29, 2021 10:26 am

Indian Reservations, Nations within a Nation, and most of them flush with cash from their tax free casino’s for great law firms. Good news, delaying the W&S madness for a few years while NuScale and TerraPower get their nukes on the market may save a $trillion or so.

Reply to  Dennis G Sandberg
December 29, 2021 2:13 pm

Indian casinos are not known to play with a stacked deck like the palefaces are now dealing from.

December 29, 2021 10:29 am

As the true owners of the land of America, they should have a cut of every transaction that has happened above and below ground. Native American Lives matter.

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Reply to  richard
December 29, 2021 11:02 am

The true owners are who ever last killed all their opponents, prior to the arrival of the white man?

Ron Long
Reply to  MarkW
December 29, 2021 11:29 am

Mark W has cut to the chase as regards the conduct of most, but not all, Indigenous groups before the arrival of Europeans, who brought with them ideas about rule of law and minority rights. Oh, and by the way, the life-span of the Indigenous groups doubled.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Ron Long
December 29, 2021 1:57 pm

Ron Long, I believe that in your praise of what Europeans brought to indigenous American Indian tribes, you overlooked the smallpox, measles, malaria, yellow fever, typhoid, typhus, and venereal diseases that were introduced by those same “educated” European settlers.

See: “How smallpox cleared the way for European occupation of the Americas”,

And you dare mention “rule of law” and “minority rights” in your post?

Ron Long
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 29, 2021 3:15 pm

Syphilis was almost certainly spread from Indigenous Americans to European explorers who took it back to Europe. My comment about the life span doubling is more than correct. By the way, Gordon, is this a contest between “The Bell Curve” and “Guns, Germs, and Steel”?

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Ron Long
December 29, 2021 4:33 pm

As to your assertion of syphillis “almost certainly” being spread from Indigenous Americans to European explorers who took it back to Europe, Wikipedia, for what its worth, is not as certain as you are:
“The first well-recorded European outbreak of what is now known as syphilis occurred in 1495 among French troops besieging Naples, Italy. It may have been transmitted to the French via Spanish mercenaries serving King Charles of France in that siege. From this centre, the disease swept across Europe. As Jared Diamond describes it, ‘When syphilis was first definitely recorded in Europe in 1495, its pustules often covered the body from the head to the knees, caused flesh to fall from people’s faces, and led to death within a few months.’ The disease then was much more lethal than it is today. The epidemiology of this first syphilis epidemic shows that the disease was either new or a mutated form of an earlier disease.
“Some researchers argue that syphilis was carried from the New World to Europe after Columbus’ voyages, while others argue the disease has a much longer history in Europe.”” —  (my underlining emphasis added)

And I wasn’t aware there was any contest ongoing. I thought instead there was a search for truth.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 29, 2021 9:00 pm

The epidemiology of syphilis strongly suggests that Europeans had no natural immunity to it. Like many diseases, it was too virulent and not only moderated in its lethality, but developed the ability to become dormant in the system for decades.

It would seem more than a coincidence that syphilis showed up throughout Europe about three years after Columbus landed in the Caribbean.

Everything that I have read through the years suggests that Columbus and later Europeans brought gonorrhea to the New World, and brought syphilis back. However, it really is a moot point because most diseases did actually move from the Old World to the New World because the isolation of the New World did not provide the inhabitants with natural defenses to what were common diseases in the Old World.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 31, 2021 9:48 pm

There skeletal evidence that syphilis was endemic in South America for centuries before first Mediterranean contact. Amerindians had a strong resistance to it. To Europeans it was a febrile, fatal disease.

The former head of the 4 Nordic country’s HIV task force described to me the spread of syphilis when we spent a few hours together in the Zurich airport many years ago. He said the returning Columbus and party was hosted at Gandolpho Castle by the Pope, during the construction of the Basilica. Masons all over Europe were required to spend two years working on it. The Pope also permitted, via indulgences, official brothels as fund-raisers. These masons caught syphilis at the brothels and took it home to the far reaches of the subcontinent spreading it much faster than it otherwise would have.

He also noted, appropriate is his view, that the first AIDS conference was also held in Gandolpho Castle as it investigated the rapid spread of a novel disease to which virtually no one had resistance. Lastly, he expressed the view that if HIV had not arisen naturally, it would have to have been invented deliberately “because there are too many people”. Huh.

So behind the scenes the story of syphilis is different from the one on Wikipedia. Who knows what the real story of HIV is, save that it is sad, miserable and long. (First suspected case 1935, BTW).

Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 29, 2021 10:07 pm

“Some researchers argue that syphilis was carried from the New World to Europe after Columbus’ voyages, while others argue the disease has a much longer history in Europe.””

And not a citation provided for this claim.

Also another segment cites #20, which the source states “Our results lend support to the Columbian theory of syphilis’s origin”

This is why anyone that sources Wikipedia is a joke, an absolute joke. And you, being the punchline.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Ruleo
December 30, 2021 11:19 am

Didn’t you just source Reference #20 from the very same Wikipedia article?

Old Retired Guy
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 29, 2021 3:37 pm

While a sad result, that was going to happen eventually. People have been migrating since before homo sapiens. And claiming land through conflict just as long. Have you read no history?

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Old Retired Guy
December 29, 2021 4:34 pm

It is impossible for me to read “no history”.

Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 29, 2021 4:49 pm

Gordon, I believe that in your thinly veiled ad hominem comments towards “educated” Europeans, you faied to recognize that the Europeans, or perhaps Asians, were eventually going to ‘discover’ the ‘new world’. And when they did they would have brought with them their indigneous diseases and cultural expectations. Rule of law was nonexistent in Indians and no one had even thought of minority rights until Europeans begant to consider them. Repeating ideology is profoundly mundane.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Dennis Topczewski
December 29, 2021 8:53 pm

“Repeating ideology is profoundly mundane.”

Ummm . . . would that be a thinly veiled ad hominem comment?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 29, 2021 9:12 pm

And you dare mention “rule of law” …

And what was the ‘Supreme Court’ of the confederation of indigenous tribes called?

As I understand it, Native Americans didn’t have a concept of private ownership of land. That was why the local tribe was pleased to be given beads in exchange for something they didn’t lay claim to — Manhattan.

More commonly, tribes would defend their hunting grounds, unless they were driven out by more aggressive tribes, which happened frequently. It would seem that among North American aborigines, the concept of “Might makes right” prevailed. Then they complained when Old World ‘tribes’ with guns and horses did the same thing to them.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 30, 2021 11:13 am

“Then they complained when Old World ‘tribes’ with guns and horses did the same thing to them.”

Well, that and quite a bit more, if your care to look into the history of what actually happened.

From the article “How smallpox cleared the way for European occupation of the Americas”, , which I cited in a previous post in this thread:
“Next, the disease made its impact felt during the French and Indian Wars of the late 18th century, when smallpox was used as a bioweapon by the British forces. The soldiers are known to have distributed blankets that had been used by smallpox patients with the intent of initiating outbreaks among the American Indians. It killed more than 50 per cent of the affected tribes.”

So, these actions by British soldiers may represent the very first case of large-scale bioweapon use in intercontinental conflict.

Note only this, objective history documents the numerous undeclared wars that European settlers and their descendants waged against Native American Indian tribes, ultimately resulting in almost every one of the tribes being confined to relatively small plots of land, euphemistically called “reservations”, although “concentration camps” is arguably more fitting.

As but one example:
The Indian Removal Act, passed by Congress in 1830, called for the removal of Native Americans residing within state borders in the East to a newly created “Indian Territory” in present-day Oklahoma and parts of Nebraska. The goal was to free up state lands for white settlers, particularly in the Southeast. While some members of each affected tribe—which included the Cherokees, Choctaws, Chickasaws, Creeks, and Seminoles—left voluntarily, most refused to leave and fought back, through physical and legal means. By 1838, President Jackson deployed the US Army to remove the remaining Native Americans, who were forced on a march west. An estimated one quarter perished on this “Trail of Tears.”

So, I seriously doubt any of the tribal populations affected thusly were so thankful to the European settlers that their fate was worth the “rule of law”, “minority rights” and even “a Supreme Court” they purportedly received in exchange from those caring, educated European conquerors.

Revisionist history is but one means of assuaging the sins of forefathers.

Reply to  Ron Long
December 29, 2021 11:06 pm

So we have to just accept your word for it? Data on life expectency is very limited, you are pulling a warmista just making crap up unless you tell us the source of your data.

All human societies had “laws” and rules by which to live. Europeans just had different ones to Indigenous peoples, and its pretty brave of you to suggest that colonising Europeans were particularly concerned about minority rights…..

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Dean
December 30, 2021 11:42 am


Well put!

Ron Long
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
December 30, 2021 12:15 pm

Dean and Gordon A. Dressler, it took me 3 minutes to find answers. Most reports listed average life expectancy for the Indigenous Americans, including death due towar, starvation, etc as 20 to 25 years, and if not dieing prematuraly 35 years. Try this article, 2002 “Health of American Indians in Decline Before Columbus”. Why do you keep whining and not fact-checking?

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Ron Long
December 30, 2021 12:49 pm

Ron Long,

And it took me about five minutes to find this:
“From the 1500s onward, till around the year 1800, life expectancy throughout Europe hovered between 30 and 40 years of age.” — , which credits gerontologist and evolutionary biologist Caleb Finch’s data from a 2010 article published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

So that is not all that different from your referenced 35 years life expectancy for Indigenous Americans not dieing (your spelling) prematurely.

There are “facts” and then there are facts.

I lay more faith in publications from PNAS than those from

Rich Davis
Reply to  MarkW
December 29, 2021 3:08 pm


Clyde Spencer
Reply to  richard
December 29, 2021 11:33 am

There is not an acre of ground on the globe that is in possession of its rightful owner, or that has not been taken away from owner after owner, cycle afer cycle, by force and bloodshed.

Mark Twain

Reply to  richard
December 29, 2021 10:08 pm

We fought, they lost.

I’m glad we kicked their ass.

4E Douglas
December 29, 2021 10:40 am

The Crow nation has tried for years to get a Coal plant built.
“Silly Indian, power and warmth is for white people.”

December 29, 2021 10:48 am

Serbian natives are doing their bit opposing the green revolution
“Rio Tinto plans for Serbia lithium mine suspended after protests. Local authorities put $2.4bn project (Serbia”s GDP is $53bn) on hold after scale of opposition shakes country’s government, as thousands of protesters block roads across Serbia.Local authorities in western Serbia have suspended a plan that would allow the mining company Rio Tinto to operate a lithium mine, after protests by environmentalists that shook the country’s populist leadership.”
Obviously the Balkan’s natives do not wish to be part of the electric vehicles revolution, not that I blame them, we rather have a bit of civil war now and then,it is in our DNA, don’t you know.

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Ron Long
Reply to  Vuk
December 29, 2021 11:31 am

Ironic (?) how protestors work hard at blocking things but don’t work hard at a productive day job, like mining. Happens everywhere, and makes one wonder who pays them?

Reply to  Vuk
December 29, 2021 12:44 pm

The protesters are environmentalists; I assume they’re ok with EVs but not with mining lithium

Reply to  Lrp
December 29, 2021 12:53 pm

Not a chance of affording one.
Google: Serbia has a meager 148 registered electric vehicles (EV), more than a half of which are electric cars and the rest vehicles such as buses, trolley buses, and motorcycles, the center’s data shows.
…. but Serbia’s citizens are stockpiling more guns than in any other European country.

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Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Vuk
December 29, 2021 1:50 pm

Serbia’s citizens are stockpiling more guns than in any other European country.

Wake me up when it’s more than the USA…

Dave Fair
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 29, 2021 3:49 pm

More guns, less crime.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Dave Fair
December 29, 2021 4:52 pm

It’s amazing how that belief continues. How are the prisons in the USA? Full yet?

Just checked, USA is still pretty much top of the list of incarcerated per capita…

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Dave Fair
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 29, 2021 5:28 pm

More guns in the hands of law abiding citizens means less crime: Read some of John Lott’s research.

The U.S. has a Constitution that guarantees citizens the right to keep and bear arms. There are some downsides, but the upsides to personal freedom derived from that Constitution more than compensate. I’m more than happy to jail the assholes that abuse our freedoms.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Dave Fair
December 29, 2021 5:33 pm

USA still beats the world at incarceration of its citizens, and beats almost all at gun deaths.

Still winning!

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 30, 2021 2:26 pm

Only someone totally disconnected with reality would think that banning guns would get guns out of the hands of criminals.

BTW, banning guns has never decreased crime rates, incarceration rates, or even gun crime rates.

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 30, 2021 2:23 pm

The belief continues, because the facts support it.

Geoffrey Williams
Reply to  Lrp
December 29, 2021 1:33 pm

Who wants a lithium mine on their doorstep anyway ?
And Serbia is such a beautifull place and has huge tourist potential.
Notwithstanding covid of course . .

December 29, 2021 10:58 am

The Najaho Nation wasn’t even allowed to buy the power plant on their own land near Lake Powel.

Geoffrey Williams
Reply to  Rocketscientist
December 29, 2021 1:37 pm

Just looked at the link- fabulous photo of the Power Station in question. You can tell I love Power Stations, no two are identical and its a shame to see this one pulled down for scrap ! !

December 29, 2021 10:59 am

I believe there are sovereignty issues here. I have friends in Washington tribes who promise war if the government violates their land . How this would manifest itself ? Who knows, but I know they forced the state to divert power lines 30 miles because it would cross their land . I’m behind them on this and would be happy to see the government thwarted on this. Especially the mining .

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Doug
December 29, 2021 11:37 am

Especially the mining .

It appears that you think that everything you own comes from a store and don’t really appreciate what goes into your material possessions.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 30, 2021 2:27 pm

Thinking that the Native Americans have a right to control what happens on their land is the equivalent of not knowing where the stuff in stores come from??????

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Doug
December 29, 2021 1:56 pm

War?? Now that’s funny.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
December 29, 2021 9:16 pm

War? How did that work out the last time?

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 30, 2021 2:28 pm

Might makes right.

Ron Long
December 29, 2021 11:26 am

The Perpetua Resources (formerly Midas Gold) antimony deposit is actually the old Stibnite gold deposit, with a good amount of stibnite (an antimony sulfide mineral) along with the gold. The combined production of gold and antimony is an adaption which takes advantage of price spikes in both commodities. I visited Stibnite, and worked in other very nearby areas, and hunted elk nearby also, and never encountered any of the Indigenous Americans. The proposed mine would comply with all environmental and social safeguards and guarantees, and would offer good employment to local workers after some free training. Skipping over the use of antimony to Eltrificate America the proposed Stibnite mine is a positive.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Ron Long
December 29, 2021 1:46 pm

I presume that if the local indigenous people still hunt for food that they don’t use flint-tipped arrows. Modern bullets use antimony as an alloying metal to harden the lead for hunting bullets. Is this simply another case of ‘Not In My Backyard?’

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Reply to  Ron Long
December 29, 2021 6:46 pm

Spent a good amount of time in Central Idaho in the search for gold and other commodities. The old mining camps were logical starting points. There were days and weeks when I did not see another person except for the breakfast waitress in Challis or Salmon. If you care to read the Perpetua Resources reports, you will see that they are cleaning up much of the historic damage in the district.

December 29, 2021 11:37 am

One good thing, still waiting but not expecting.

Kit P
December 29, 2021 12:27 pm

Just another example of NIMBY.

Listen to a presentation by an old guy about fish. He was sad when he drove his grandson to someplace that was not as pristine as he remembered.

I was sad that my grandmother lived in a city with the pollution from making tires.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Kit P
December 29, 2021 1:59 pm

He was sad when he drove his grandson to someplace that was not as pristine as he remembered.

Note that he drove, rather than ride a pony. Cars require balanced wheels to ride smoothly and prolong the life of tires and the suspension. Wheels are commonly balanced with “wheel weights” that have traditionally been composed of lead alloyed principally with antimony. More hypocrisy or simply ignorance.

Antimony also finds widespread use as an alloy in lead bullets used for recreational target practice.'s-with-wheel-weights

Gary Pearse
December 29, 2021 12:58 pm

Radical greens have screwed economic development for native peoples around the world since the first NGOs with their anti mining quest. Kiddies education is now a designer-brain operation to thwart development and destroy what has been built.

Why on earth, might I ask, do you think the stages of human development are named after the level of technological prowess with minerals and metals and their transformation to further their utility? -Paleolithic and Neolithic Periods (Stone Ages), Bronze Age, Iron Age!!! It is an instinct! It is an exercise of human intelligence to engage in enterprise!

Native peoples here and everywhere shaped arrowheads, spearheads from flint and other stones. Those around Lake Superior hammered, possibly melted and reworked, native copper for tools, weapons superior to stone ones. They also shaped clay vessels and bricks. Were they bad people do you think? No! (just in case the question is not easy for you). They simply would not have survived. We, the pinnacle of creation (by God or even ocean slimes) wouldn’t be here. Shouldn’t education and society start with these givens?

Reply to  Gary Pearse
December 29, 2021 4:49 pm

I do chuckle at the greens. They are of some use. Without pressure groups to ban stuff humanity wouldn’t invent the next stuff for them to object to.

When we eventually reach Fusion energy, they’ll invent an objection, and someone will invent Warp energy or something.

Give the little creatures their day, we’ll shrug it off and carry on regardless.

December 29, 2021 1:11 pm

I remember a time when environmentalists were against oil in part because it is an extractive process.

They don’t seem to complain as much when it comes to extracting minerals and metals for their “cause.”

Reply to  Kramer
December 29, 2021 1:47 pm

There is a lithium deposit in….maybe Nevada…that some Greenies are opposing the planned mine….one guy has even taken residence there …supposed to be an extinct volcano site.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Anti-griff
December 29, 2021 5:01 pm

Anti-G I worked on that project from 2008 -2011. I’m a geologist and metallurgist and developed a process for extraction of lithium, potash and boron from this one-of-a-kind type of deposit. It is indeed in the collapsed caldera of a rhyolite volcano.

The mineralization (a occurs in two layers 20 -30 ft thick separated and covered by volcanic ash (‘tuff’) and could be mined by earth scrapers. The source of the mineralization is a volcanic hot spring that fed an elongate lake. The ore is a complex sodium boron potassium lithium silicate, that I found to be soluble in weak sulphuric acid or weak caustic soda.

Remarkably, there were tiny cephalopods (coiled shellfish) in the mineralization. A) how’d they get there and B) how’d they live in that stringent lake bombarded by volcanic ash?

The area is the Borate Hills NV and is 10 mi away and about 3000ft above the lithium brine producer at Silver Peak. I believe Borate Hills is the source of their brines. Well, now you know much more than you ever wanted to know about this project. Cheers.

Gordon A. Dressler
December 29, 2021 1:43 pm

Eric Worrall,

Good article, thanks!

Just one observation from me: President Joe Biden will NEVER fulfill his promised green energy revolution”, American Indians or not.

What?, you think the guy might live another 100 years of so . . . or until the USA goes bankrupt chasing “green energy”, which will likely happen first.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 29, 2021 4:43 pm

Well, unless the EU gets its way and Gas and Nuclear are declared ‘green’ fuels.

How many spanners can be thrown into the works before the penny drops.

December 29, 2021 2:00 pm

Why have the Tribes not flooded government regulatory agencies and taken them over? Then they could insure all of this is done in the safest, cleanest manner possible. Plenty of real Tribal members have the needed education to do the job, Affirmative Action insures they would be hired. So why haven’t they?

Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 29, 2021 3:58 pm

I was raised in Pearl River county Mississippi in the ’60s and ’70s, I did not see real racism till I went North, then overseas. People in America got NO CONCEPT what racism really is today. Media has washed it away and replaced it with THEIR racist crap.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  2hotel9
December 29, 2021 5:11 pm

Of course it is well known that racism in Mississippi stopped in the 1950s just after the lynching of Emmett Till. Or was it when President Kennedy had to send in 300 federal marshals to allow James Meredith to attend university?

Reply to  Izaak Walton
December 29, 2021 6:05 pm

As every good socialist knows, if one white person is a racist, therefore all white people are just looking for a good opportunity to kill blacks.

By far, the biggest racists I have ever met, have all been liberals.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  MarkW
December 29, 2021 6:23 pm

of course it was only isolated individuals who were racists and not the entire state and its laws.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
December 29, 2021 7:04 pm

Clearly you have never encountered actual racism, just the leftist horseshit spewing out of the TV and academia. Good luck with that, White Boy.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
December 30, 2021 2:59 pm

If everyone was racist, they wouldn’t need laws that required everyone to be racist.

PS: I just love the way socialists go out of their way to label everyone. It’s almost as if they actually believed that they judge the contents of your character just by knowing the color of your skin.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 29, 2021 4:52 pm

In Queensland it was not until 1965 that Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders were allowed to vote. And not surprisingly it was there that Pauline Hanson started her racist political party with a platform of stopping Asian immigration before moving onto anti-muslim attacks.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
December 29, 2021 6:07 pm

As every good socialist knows, anyone who wants to control immigration is just looking for an opportunity to lynch blacks.
As every good socialist knows, there is no such thing as a bad Muslim, they are all just misunderstood and would be absolute angels if it weren’t for white Europeans.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
December 29, 2021 7:07 pm

Blacks were elected to office in the US south in the years after the Civil War, then Democrat Party again became ascendant, and blacks were driven out of government. Woodrow Wilson as one of his first acts as President ordered blacks out of USG employ. Pull the leftist c*ck out of your mouth, that stain never washes off.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
December 29, 2021 9:04 pm

She wanted a stop to illegal and uncontrolled immigration. The kind of that brings in people unwilling to adapt and contribute to the host country.

Reply to  Lrp
December 30, 2021 3:00 pm

Izaak is a socialist. They believe that anytime a white disagrees with a minority, or a socialist, this proves that you are a racist.

December 29, 2021 2:20 pm

The penny begins to drop for the climate changer media and their Nirvana-
2021 was the year clean energy finally faced its mining problem (

Instead of cutting through landscapes with oil and gas wells and pipelines, clean energy industries and their suppliers will open up the Earth to hunt for critical minerals like lithium, cobalt, and copper. Compared to a gas-fired power plant, an onshore wind turbine requires nine times more mineral resources, according to the International Energy Agency. Building an EV requires six times more minerals than a gas-powered car.

Digging up the necessary minerals is already proving to be a minefield. Protests are popping up at proposed mines that no one really wants in their backyard. The conflicts that cropped up in 2021 are just the beginning of a challenging road ahead.

Reply to  observa
December 29, 2021 4:40 pm

PS: Must be catching or they’re all getting bored with the usual puff pieces-
Is solar energy really green? We answer some common questions about panels (

Repurpose all those tired solar panels like EV batteries off to the developing world eh?

Come to think of it perhaps we should take a leaf out of the Japanese domestic car industry playbook. No feed-in to the grid after 15 years old and a tax on any home power subsequently produced so they can be re-purposed overseas for the more needy while we bung up the latest and greatest again. Nothing like renewable renewables. You know it makes sense to share all that climate changing Greenies 😉

Dave Andrews
Reply to  observa
December 30, 2021 6:17 am

observa, minor correction

Compared to a gas-fired plant an onshore wind plant requires nine times more mineral resources

December 29, 2021 2:55 pm

when the tribes own the mineral rights, things will happen quickly

Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  Jamaica
December 29, 2021 4:53 pm

Absolutely. Witness the Alaska Native Corporations and the Oklahoma Tribal Nations, for examples. When they have a financial stake, Indians are as capitalist and profit motivated as anyone.

December 29, 2021 4:39 pm

A single pipeline across native American territory Vs vast mining operations in native American territory.

Neither is good enough for the average native north American SUV, V8 pickup driver.

The Irony.

It burns…….

December 29, 2021 4:40 pm

BTW. Australian green going berserk at their pristine brush being populated by wind turbines.

How Dare They!!!!!!!

glenn holdcroft
December 29, 2021 10:48 pm

Indigenous Natives minds can change with a few extra dollars thrown their way , just look at Australia .

December 30, 2021 2:00 am

I assume then they were ecstatic at the changes President Trump brought in opening 2 million acres inside National Monuments to mining?

President Trump opens 2 million acres inside national monuments to mining | by Jesse Prentice-Dunn | Westwise | Medium

Double standards here, Watts Up…

Reply to  griff
December 30, 2021 6:05 am

In case you didn’t notice, there is a difference on this side of the pond between tribal lands and National Monuments. One is owned and managed by the Federal government, the other is owned and managed by the indigenous folks.
Two different governing bodies, two different sets of accountability.
Mining in unused and barren National Monument land doesn’t displace or break treaties.

Reply to  griff
December 30, 2021 10:18 am

Did you actually read or comprehend the article you linked to Griff?

There were already “thousands” of existing mining claims on the declared Monument areas that cannot be extinguished.

Also, before any mining operations can begin, permits must be issued by the lands management agencies.

So being able to stake a claim in any Monument area is not a passport to start digging.

The bureaucrats will no doubt ensure that not one shovelfull of earth will be disturbed.
As they see their charter these days.

Reply to  griff
December 30, 2021 3:05 pm

Try to learn a little about a subject for once in your pitiful life griff.
Do you have any evidence that the National Monument in question is also tribal lands?
Or are you to stupid to care about the difference?

Bill Halcott
December 31, 2021 5:41 am

If I was one of the tribes, I would dump the casinos and make a deal with the energy companies to build pipelines. Get paid royalties.

James Bull
January 1, 2022 8:07 am

I’m sure the Tribes can call on all those lovely caring and clean protesters that came to their aid when they wanted to stop the Keystone pipeline.

Or they can trust the government to do the right thing because you can always trust the government and it’s agencies!

James Bull

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