Russia Is Right, There Is No Connection Between Climate, National Security, and the United Nations’ Mission

From ClimateREALISM

By H. Sterling Burnett -December 16, 2021

Russia recently vetoed the U.N. Security Council Resolution aimed at labeling climate change a threat to international peace and security. They were right to block the United Nations’ efforts to expand its mission.

As described in an Associated Press (AP) story, titled “Russia vetoes UN resolution linking climate change, security,” the resolution would have made fighting climate change central to the U.N.s’ core and delegated mission to maintain international peace and security, develop friendly relations among nations, achieve international cooperation. Russia was joined in torpedoing this effort by India, which also voted no, and China, which, although abstaining spoke, out against the resolution.

“Spearheaded by Ireland and Niger, the proposal called for ‘incorporating information on the security implications of climate change’ into the council’s strategies for managing conflicts and into peacekeeping operations and political missions, at least sometimes,” writes the AP. “The measure also asked the U.N. secretary-general to make climate-related security risks ‘a central component’ of conflict prevention efforts and to report on how to address those risks in specific hotspots.”

Russia, India, and China were right to reject the climate/conflict resolution. There is no evidence climate change is causing or exacerbating armed global conflicts, nor, as shown on Climate Realism, herehere, and here, for example, is it not causing mass migration which, in some regions has resulted in or from conflict. Also, as explored herehere, and here, for example, there is no evidence climate change is hampering military preparedness in the United States or elsewhere in the world.

According to the AP’s report, China’s, India’s, and Russia’s U.N. envoys expressed concern that “adding climate change to the Security Council’s purview would only deepen global divisions.”

The AP reports, Russian Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia said the proposed resolution would turn “‘a scientific and economic issue into a politicized question,’ divert the council’s attention from … ‘genuine’ sources of conflict in various places and give the council a pretext to intervene in virtually any country on the planet. ‘This approach would be a ticking time bomb,’” said Nebenzia.

China’s Ambassador Zhang Jun agreed, saying, “What the Security Council needs to do is not a political show.”

China’s and Russia’s geo-political moves are often objectionable. But their action to prevent the U.N. from treating global warming as an international security issue and a threat to peace, was justified. There are many sources of conflict within and between nations. There is no evidence climate change one of them. The U.N. has more than enough on its plate in its attempts to reduce conflict and secure peace around the world without going off on an unjustified tangent and adding climate change as a central concern.

H. Sterling Burnett, Ph.D. is managing editor of Environment & Climate News and a research fellow for environment and energy policy at The Heartland Institute. Burnett worked at the National Center for Policy Analysis for 18 years, most recently as a senior fellow in charge of NCPA’s environmental policy program. He has held various positions in professional and public policy organizations, including serving as a member of the Environment and Natural Resources Task Force in the Texas Comptroller’s e-Texas commission.

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Tom Halla
December 21, 2021 2:07 pm

The Chinese and the Russians did not join with the climate change religion.

Willem Post
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 21, 2021 2:52 pm

And India

Dennis
Reply to  Willem Post
December 21, 2021 4:25 pm

And Australia

Interested Observer
Reply to  Dennis
December 21, 2021 9:34 pm

Yet!

All the fools who vote for the Greens-Labor coalition have drunk the kool-aid and fervently worship at the altar of climate-change religion. We’re screwed if enough idiots vote for the Greens-Labor coalition come the next federal election.

Philo
Reply to  Interested Observer
December 22, 2021 7:15 am

Sounds like what the DIMs in the US have been trying to do for 50 years.

griff
Reply to  Willem Post
December 22, 2021 1:08 am

That’ll be India with the massive solar energy programme?

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 3:47 am

and do you think India could ever get to net zero? Where will they put all the wind and solar farms with well over a billion people? They’re doing some- so they can look like they’re trying but they’ll never come close to net zero without a huge nuclear program

Dave Andrews
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 8:49 am

That’ll be India with a projected solar programme but currently only getting around 4% of its electricity from solar compared to c. 70% from coal, according to the IEA, you mean?

meab
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 8:51 am

Massive? Liar. India gets 3% of their energy from solar and wind. They get over 80% of their energy from fossil fuels. They even get more energy from cow dung and other biomass fuel than solar.

Joao Martins
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 12:12 pm

griff, what has a “massive solar energy programme” to do with climate change?

Don’t you see that India’s programme does not spring from a religious faith and that it is based on economical and political considerations?

Brad-DXT
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 21, 2021 4:22 pm

Just because they are totalitarian doesn’t mean they are wrong all the time.

John Endicott
Reply to  Brad-DXT
December 21, 2021 4:47 pm

Indeed. Totalitarian regimes are as capable of being right or wrong on any issue as any other type of government. The problem with such regimes isn’t with their stance on any particular issue, it’s with the methods they use to enforce their viewpoints.

MarkW
Reply to  John Endicott
December 21, 2021 5:55 pm

Another difference is in the ways available to get regimes to change direction when they are wrong.

RickWill
Reply to  John Endicott
December 21, 2021 8:30 pm

Totalitarian regimes are as capable of being right or wrong on any issue as any other type of government.

Not when consensus is the goto for science.

griff
Reply to  John Endicott
December 22, 2021 1:08 am

but the whole basis of those societies is wrong…

Vuk
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 1:26 am

Who are you, or I, or for that matter anyone else to tell nearly 3 billion people that
basis of (their) societies is wrong
We might disagree with their way of life, we might not like or even hate their politics, but it looks to me if Darwin’s theory is correct that
‘species with characteristics best suited to their environment are more likely to survive’
by the end of this century they will be masters of this planet.
Regretfully, western democracies may have reached, if not past, the pinnacle of their historic up-trajectory. From here on stagnation might be the best we can hope for.
Are we wise enough to avoid decline?

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Philo
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 7:17 am

Demonstrate HOW they are wrong before making claims.

John Endicott
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 9:43 am

“The whole basis of their societies being wrong” is rather irrelevant to whether or not they are wrong on any particular issue. Even a stopped (analogue) clock is right twice a day (which is twice more that you ever are, griff).

Joao Martins
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 12:19 pm

… and here is griff, wrapped in his priestly cloak, dictating what is right and what is wrong!…

griff
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 22, 2021 1:07 am

They absolutely accept the science: they just don’t propose to interrupt what they are doing (at least not yet)

Richard S Courtney
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 3:09 am

griff,

Please say what “science” you think “they absolutely accept”.

I think the totalitarians (and I) “accept” that for three centuries the globe has been warming intermittently from the depths of the Little Ice Age, and there is no evidence that human activities have affected this in any way.

More importantly, totalitarians exaggerate any excuse to justify political actions and, therefore, they recognise when others are exaggerating such an excuse; for example, when activists pretend climate so-called ‘science’ indicates a need for a security response.

Richard

Vuk
Reply to  Richard S Courtney
December 22, 2021 4:22 am

A buffoon would find it next to impossible to become leader of a totalitarian state, but in democracy might be tempted to turn it into totalitarianism.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 3:50 am

Maybe Russia would like Siberia and its north coast to warm up- actually, all of Russia- famous for its fierce winters.

Doug Danhoff
December 21, 2021 2:09 pm

One of the very few positives about a totalitarian system is that most humbug ideas that don’t show a profit to the state are not allowed, and of course there is less need for the dominate reasons a democracy allows it , the increased control over the people. This is not necessary since it already is present in Russia.

otsar
Reply to  Doug Danhoff
December 21, 2021 2:17 pm

I beg to differ. There is a solid money harvesting connection.

otsar
Reply to  otsar
December 21, 2021 2:21 pm

Sorry. I meant to attach to the top.

Felix
Reply to  Doug Danhoff
December 21, 2021 4:45 pm

Lysenko and socialism beg to differ.

stinkerp
Reply to  Doug Danhoff
December 21, 2021 4:56 pm

Explain Stalin’s Holodomor, Mao’s “Great Leap Forward”, and the decades of relentless, widespread poverty, hunger, and deprivation in the USSR, China, North Korea, and Cuba. The hallmark of a totalitarian system is never needing to explain yourself rationally. You can do any crazy thing you want. Not so much in a democratic republic, before people start kicking back and elected officials lose their jobs.

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AndyHce
Reply to  stinkerp
December 21, 2021 5:52 pm

“You can do any crazy thing you want. Not so much in a democratic republic, before people start kicking back and elected officials lose their jobs.”

Haven’t you noticed? Most of those difficulties in the western nations are being overcome

stinkerp
Reply to  AndyHce
December 22, 2021 7:42 am

Haven’t you noticed that the crazies that got elected are losing their jobs and irrational policies are meeting resistance? It’s not a fast process, sometimes taking years or decades, but democratic republics tend to be self-correcting. The current energy policy madness will not last forever as the pain becomes widespread. Japan is already talking about the necessity of nuclear power just a few years after suffering the biggest (non-lethal) nuclear accident since Chernobyl. Ironically their motivation is to “combat climate change”. Germany has the same irrational priority but they have excluded nuclear. They just need a little more pain and suffering as reality slaps them around…

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Hari Seldon
Reply to  stinkerp
December 21, 2021 8:45 pm

Hm, and what about the new pseudoreligion (even state-religion in certain so-called “democratic countries”) “CO2- und climate hysteria”? Would in be “democratic”?

Thomas Gasloli
December 21, 2021 2:40 pm

“What the Security Council needs to do is not a political show”

Seriously! Everything the UN does is a political show.
Seriously! When can we stop pretending the UN is anything other than useless political theatre and that the majority of its members are corrupt, thug governments.

John
Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
December 21, 2021 4:20 pm

The UN like most world bodies should be put to death
they have now outlived their life cycle
they fail in most quarters
we certainly need a group that overseas conflict but the UN is nolonger fit for this

Dennis
Reply to  John
December 21, 2021 4:28 pm

When President Trump addressed the UN in New York the first time he told delegates that the UN had expanded beyond its original charter and must downsize and get back to basics.

He told them to stop interfering in the sovereignty of member nations.

And later he joked that the US had over funded the UN for decades and maybe they should hand back their headquarters and it could be converted into a casino to return money to the taxpayers.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dennis
December 21, 2021 6:46 pm

According to reports, Trump is going to hold a news conference this coming January 6, 2022.

That ought to be interesting.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 22, 2021 4:33 pm

I wonder if he will mention he has had the booster shot again?

Oddgeir
Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
December 21, 2021 4:28 pm

Seriously! When can we stop pretending the UN is anything BUT a VERY SERIOUS political theatre and that the majority of its members are corrupt, thug governments.

Fixed it for you?

Oddgeir

Dennis
Reply to  Oddgeir
December 21, 2021 5:52 pm

The UN was infiltrated soon after it was established by far-left political people, for example Australian Attorney General Evatt, he was an Australian Labor Party MP but from the Communist faction, a lawyer, he successfully recommended the plan that the UN sign as many treaties and agreements (and similar titles) with member nations that could, and have, allow compliant governments to get around the constitutional laws of each nation.

In Australia, therefore, no referendums have been conducted to ask the people their views of UN agreements to be signed, Federal Governments legislated agreements into law and State Governments created complimentary legislation and regulations and enabled Local Government Councils to impose regulations. These have resulted in a reluctance to issue permits for land clearing and burning off fuel on the ground that feed bushfires, one example. Water licences, no new dams permitted, logging of what was public Forests now UN registered National Parks banned, no mining, etc.

Hard to accept but the new International Airport at Badgerys Creek West of Sydney will need applications for approval by the UN to determine aircraft flight paths – environmental based. The influence of UN within member nations is substantial yet the citizens have not elected UN Officials.

WXcycles
Reply to  Dennis
December 21, 2021 7:26 pm

Weather cycles are to blame … correction … humans are to blame.

Weather noise = Human AC-mains outlet source excess use.

Parasitic imposition in everyone’s wallet, life and freedom is the solution.

griff
Reply to  Dennis
December 22, 2021 1:09 am

all a marxist plot, eh?

chickenhawk
December 21, 2021 2:43 pm

a closely related factoid
do a search for republicans and putin
perhaps a portion of the demo platform
is connecting those two together

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  chickenhawk
December 21, 2021 2:57 pm

Quiet, folks. I think it’s trying to communicate….

chickenhawk
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 21, 2021 3:08 pm

crazy, innit?

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  chickenhawk
December 21, 2021 3:20 pm

Nah, it’s just a bot, sorry.

chickenhawk
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 21, 2021 3:32 pm

not sure if you’re serious
but I’ll restate for the record
if you did indeed do the search I did,
you would see the extensive results confirming what I said.

If you didn’t do the search, perhaps it seem foreign to you.

perhaps my shorthand is too cryptic.

Let’s write the headline, shall we?

“”Deniers join the ranks of other leading R’s in praising Putin””

just saying, everything has a political edge these days.

MarkW
Reply to  chickenhawk
December 21, 2021 3:46 pm

Praising Putin for killing this idiocy in the UN does not mean Republicans praise Putin for everything he does.
No matter how much you want to believe it.

chickenhawk
Reply to  MarkW
December 21, 2021 5:27 pm

I fail to see how my statement is so misunderstood.
The search results show MSM articles like I said. I also linked those same MSM biased articles to the D platform, which I believe it is….

However, you think I am saying the opposite. I agree with you that “Praising Putin for killing this idiocy in the UN does not mean Republicans praise Putin for everything he does”.

That however is not how propaganda works. Trump tried to praise Putin in public, and was accused of many things that were not true. The media and the Dems play to win. Many similarities to how the Climate Change games is played.

mikeyj
Reply to  chickenhawk
December 21, 2021 4:46 pm

closer to chickenshitt than chickenhawk

stinkerp
Reply to  chickenhawk
December 21, 2021 4:48 pm

“Republicans and Putin” turns up articles from the same left-wing media outlets that spent 4 years lying about (non-existent) collusion between Donald Trump and Russia. Now they’re trying to link Republicans to Putin, despite the overwhelming evidence that the vast majority of Republicans in government and the Republican base is solidly anti-Putin and anti-any-communist-dictator. But nice try with another lie, chickenhawk.

TonyG
Reply to  stinkerp
December 22, 2021 12:01 pm

But nice try with another lie, chickenhawk.

How are you guys even understanding what he’s saying?

Felix
Reply to  chickenhawk
December 21, 2021 4:47 pm

Dood! Russiagate was a DNC affair. C’mon, man!

Upfrontaussie
Reply to  chickenhawk
December 21, 2021 5:23 pm

What an idiot you are.

Derg
Reply to  chickenhawk
December 21, 2021 5:40 pm

Russia colluuuusion…where is ole dumb Simon when you need some good colluuuusion

Ron Long
December 21, 2021 2:50 pm

Climate is not an international security threat? How come the Russian Communists can figure this out and the CNN Communists cannot? What? CNN Communists are more corrupt than the Russian variety?

gringojay
Reply to  Ron Long
December 21, 2021 3:25 pm

Let’s be precise on WUWT – Russia is not communist.

gbaikie
Reply to  gringojay
December 21, 2021 4:04 pm

Russia has 117 billionaires.
The only equity is they live in same cold country.
Maybe Russians would happier if Russia was a bit warmer.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  gringojay
December 21, 2021 6:59 pm

The Russian leadership is authoritarian. I don’t see much difference to communism where it concerns the average citizen.

gringojay
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 21, 2021 9:23 pm

Then, if there isn’t “much difference” concerning the meaning of words, this is what the “average citizen” should accept.

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Redge
Reply to  gringojay
December 21, 2021 10:04 pm

These female athletes would easily outperform most mediocre males and many not so mediocre males

Otherwise: funny

gringojay
Reply to  Redge
December 21, 2021 11:30 pm

For those not in the USA here’s how adverse things have become for people with a cervix in women’s sports:

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  gringojay
December 22, 2021 3:58 pm

I couldn’t get that png to load, but I got the jpg to load and I see it is the transgender person who is breaking all the female swimming records.

This is of course, true insanity.

But I’m confused, is this supposed to be a rebuttal to my calling Russia’s leadership authoritarian?

I don’t see it.

All that picture does is show how insane some people are in the United States.

kwinterkorn
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 22, 2021 7:28 pm

The difference:
Authoritarians mostly leave their citizens alone so long as they do not threaten the state.
Communists in general try to totally control their people, right down to styles of clothing and expressions of belief on the most mundane things.

Devils Tower
Reply to  Ron Long
December 21, 2021 3:32 pm

In the US it is all about:

1. Source of gov funding for: NASA, NOAA, and on and on..

2. Green subsidies: running a business on the taxpayers dime. A lot easier than having a real business.

3. Politics, use it to go after your enemies with lies.

4. Politics/economics, use it to punish and marginalize those who don’t vote for you.

5. Control, control, control…. anyway possible. Keep the powers to be in charge.

6. Keep the acidemia gravy train rolling.

John
Reply to  Ron Long
December 21, 2021 4:23 pm

remember CNN etc and most US news services are so politically correct that you dont have white faced male journalists
but you do have a majority of black females with a couple of black males

when you can get to this position it tells you that the news medias do not have any credibility

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  John
December 21, 2021 4:29 pm

If an alien (space alien for our American cousins) were to inspect the MSM these days, they would assume that at least 50% of people were black, 70% women, at least 30% gay, and 20% transgender, and everyone believes fervently in CAGW and socialism.

And 90% of everyone is already dead or about to die of covid.

Actually, I’ve just realised that they only need to look at twatter and shreddit to draw those conclusions.

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 21, 2021 7:07 pm

Just about everything you see in the Media is a distortion of reality. The Media are busy creating many false realities, which they blast our brains with every day. I feel sorry for young people who are witnessing this blizzard of distortions.

The one good thing is many humans have the ability to see through the BS. The bad thing is many do not.

There are many more things to sort through today for young people, compared to when I was young. I wonder sometimes how I would fare if I were just growing up now. Would I be able to see through all the propaganda coming from all directions? I don’t know. The pressure on young kids is enormous. They need our help.

Tenuk
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 22, 2021 2:01 am

It is the job of the MSM to create our reality, not just distort it. They have been employing psychological warfare on ordinary people across the globe for many many decades. Just read George Orwell’s ‘Nineteen Eighty-Four’ again. The handing of the current repeating 100 years pandemic is a good example of the methods they employ.

griff
Reply to  John
December 22, 2021 1:11 am

and the problem with black faces on the news is what, exactly?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 4:19 pm

No problem with black faces on the news. There are a lot of black faces I like to see on the news. Leo Terrel 2.0, and many others.

I think John is just remarking on the fact that those who present the news on CNN are not representative of the American public, if you go by percentage of population. Whites represent 60+ percent of the U.S. population, but you won’t see 60 percent white people anywhere on the leftwing news networks.

It’s another example of distortion of reality. Good or bad? I don’t think distortions of reality are good. I think pointing them out is good. But I’m not going to call for quotas of white people on CNN.

Dennis
Reply to  Ron Long
December 21, 2021 4:31 pm

China-CCP have a vested interest in selling solar equipment and wind turbines to export markets, and electric vehicles, and other products climate hoax crony capitalists promote.

Maybe they also have an ulterior motive to reduce the competition for coal, gas and other fossil fuels China desperately needs?

griff
Reply to  Ron Long
December 22, 2021 1:10 am
Chris Hanley
December 21, 2021 4:10 pm

There doesn’t seem to be a consensus: ‘war is least likely if power is distributed equally, war is least likely if power is distributed unequally, and the distribution of power has no effect on the likelihood of war’.

No Connection Between Climate, National Security, and the United Nations’ Mission.

It is net-zero policies that will likely increase international geopolitical instability.
I don’t see how weakening the economies of the erstwhile ‘West’ notably the US in pursuit the idiotic and impossible net-zero utopia while China and Russia grow in relative military strength can improve international security.

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Zig Zag Wanderer
December 21, 2021 4:36 pm

Exploding batteries coming to an apartment block near you:
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2021/12/nine-e-bike-batteries-cause-apartment-fire/

a 32-year-old man was charging nine lithium-ion e-bike batteries simultaneously. Then, one of the batteries exploded, starting the fire. The inferno was so intense that it blew out windows in the building. The blast also knocked a wall down inside of the apartment. The man was trapped by the blaze and lost his life.

They were just bike batteries. To really do the job properly you need a few EVs in an underground car park.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 21, 2021 7:17 pm

I’m afraid we are going to be hearing more stories like this in the future. Government parking garages will be dangerous places, as Biden electrifies thousands of government vehicles.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 21, 2021 8:58 pm

 RE: exploding batteries:

If the governments of the world would get out of the way, companies will solve the battery issue. For example, a Lithium-Sulfur battery by Lyten has a higher energy density and is nearing a charging cycle threshold acceptable to many applications.
Lyten Promises Big Things for EVs From Its Lithium-Sulfur Battery (motortrend.com)

Safety claims are made.
When governments dictate a solution, it is likely wrong.

Richard S Courtney
Reply to  John Hultquist
December 22, 2021 3:49 am

John Hultquist,

Work to research, develop and demonstrate (R,D&D) any novel technology needs to obtain financial backing. So, people are usually wrong when they claim a potential novel technology is almost perfected. The claims are required to maintain R.D&D funding.

This is especially true in matters of power generation where R,D&D costs tend to be high and lead times tend to be long. For example, nuclear fusion power has been ‘about 10 years in the future’ for the last 60 years.

Problems arise when politicians make use of these matters as excuses for political distortions and corruption. Such distortion is known as Lysenkoism after Trofim Lysenko who applied his biological theories as justification for agriculture technology that did not work but was accepted by Stalin. This distorted Soviet agriculture such that millions starved to death.

At present the most common example of Lysenkoism is the imposition of return to using wind and sun as energy supplies instead of fossil fuels. Climate so-called ‘science’ is being applied as justification for electricity generating technology that does not work but is being accepted by several governments. This is distorting electricity generating systems such as to threaten millions of lives.

Whether “Lyten” or Unicorns “promise good things for EVs” remains to be seen.

Richard

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 22, 2021 9:10 am

Transport for London recently banned electric scooters and e unicycles from the London Tube and stations after several spontaneously ignited on the service.

markl
December 21, 2021 5:16 pm

Agenda 21 lays out the One World Government goal of and by the UN and the methods they will use to achieve it. It’s a modern day Mein Kampf with Democracy and Capitalism being the targets. The UN has strategically placed itself as the world arbiter of everything when in reality it is nothing more than a Marxist ideology quango. Underdeveloped and small countries feel protected by the UN and large successful countries feel trapped. The UN long ago abandoned its’ original mission and replaced it with world dominance. It’s long passed their time to disband.

Dennis
Reply to  markl
December 21, 2021 6:00 pm

UN Agenda 21 was signed by the then Australian Labor Government around 1990, it’s title is Sustainability. And since it was changed to Agenda 30 meaning final implementation date 2030.

It frustrates and annoys me that so many people know nothing about this yet the impact on our lives and nations has already been huge.

Of course this spans back to the late 1800s in England when the Marxist based Fabian Society was formed there. They planned one world government, no borders, and their new world order.

The formation of the UN after WW2 gave them the golden opportunity to infiltrate and manipulate successfully.

President Trump is one of the enlightened conservative side of politics patriots who see the dangers and have tried to resist. Build Back Better Biden has been a pawn and useful fool.

Dennis
Reply to  Dennis
December 21, 2021 6:02 pm

And don’t ignore the UN Lima Protocol or Agreement signed in 1975 the contents member nation signatories agreed on that handed over gradually manufacturing industry of each developed nation to developing nations, example China.

Time to remember President Trump and his Make America Great Again, including rebuilding the industrial base.

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Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Dennis
December 21, 2021 6:47 pm

it was changed to Agenda 30 meaning final implementation date 2030.

It frustrates and annoys me that so many people know nothing about this yet the impact on our lives and nations has already been huge.

It’s been marketed very well. Almost every reference to Agenda 21, then Agenda (20)30, then The Great Reset, is immediately labelled as a conspiracy theory. This is despite the fact that these agenda are very clearly documented, in detail, and are very clearly communist in nature.

They worked out that they needed to start at bottom with feel good ‘green’ initiatives within local town councils, as well as the top with massive ‘green’ initiatives like unreliables. They then attack the middle with useful idiots like Extinction Rebellion and Insulate Britain. Now we will get it whether we like it or not.

Hari Seldon
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
December 21, 2021 8:56 pm

Pls, could you provide a link for Agenda 21 or Agenda 30 (or some introductory material)? This could be an interesting story (I have never heard about that earlier).

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Hari Seldon
December 21, 2021 11:17 pm
griff
Reply to  Hari Seldon
December 22, 2021 1:13 am

It is just another conspiracy theory, as presented here…

The agendas are merely UN boilerplate sustainability aspirations.

markl
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 10:22 am

Obviously you haven’t read it nor understand that it’s being implemented already in some countries, regions, and towns. It clearly spells out how to force reluctant governments through intimidation, shaming, and trade embargos, to toe the line and join the “One World Government” headed by the UN.

LdB
Reply to  Dennis
December 21, 2021 7:20 pm

It’s a non binding piece of trash

I really love item 3 which says they will solve hunger and poverty everywhere in the world …. ROFL it reminds me of a cult sitting around a campfire singing Kumbaya.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  LdB
December 21, 2021 8:08 pm

It’s a non binding piece of trash

Yes it is, but you’ve been gaslighted. It’s spreading like Omicron through all levels of local governments.

griff
Reply to  markl
December 22, 2021 1:12 am

CONSPIRACY THEORY!

and hasn’t everyone moved on to Agenda 30 now?

markl
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 10:35 am

Same lyrics, different music.

Tom Abbott
December 21, 2021 6:39 pm

From the article: “The AP reports, Russian Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia said the proposed resolution would turn “‘a scientific and economic issue into a politicized question,’ divert the council’s attention from … ‘genuine’ sources of conflict in various places and give the council a pretext to intervene in virtually any country on the planet.”

Nobody wants the UN intervening in their business.

This was just a powergrab by the UN that got shot down for very good reasons.

MM from Canada
December 21, 2021 10:21 pm

“…nor, as shown on Climate Realism, here, here, and here, for example, is it not causing mass migration which, in some regions has resulted in or from conflict. ”

Double negative. It should read, “…nor … is it causing mass migration…”

Unless, of course, the author’s intent is to say that it IS causing mass migration, which I doubt.

griff
December 22, 2021 1:06 am

There are certainly areas of conflict where fighting is certainly in part down to harsh/long term drought.

and it is interesting to note both Russian and Chinese policy as regards the Arctic assumes it will become increasingly ice free…

Dave Andrews
Reply to  griff
December 22, 2021 9:18 am

That’s why the Russians have been building all those nuclear powered ice breakers then?

Hutches Hunches
December 22, 2021 10:21 am

Why does it take oligarchs and Communists to see through the political veil that constitutes this issue of Climate Change? Apparently, democracies are vulnerable too extremists who use the democratic process to browbeat politicians into submitting to their nonsense, IMO.

Philo
December 23, 2021 7:05 am

This incident reveals the major difficulties between countries- the three largest, Russia as one of the largest military countries, and the countries with trade and communication(internet)such as Japan, the UK, and many of their main trading partners.

The UN is trying to establish itself as a world power, which can’t be allowed to happen. The organization, per se, is not a nation, but only a meeting place between nations, primarily for the maintenance of international standards,various regulatory standards for trade, crimes, inter country legal problems. It can’t be an international power, only a referee on the sidelines calling fouls. The COP26 meeting firmly established that fact.

While all the countries pay lip service to “climate change” most of them with any kind of an active science/education environment understand that the “climate” is something, along with the sun, the rest of the planets, and galaxies galore that is too complicated to control yet. It is being used in attempts to manipulate the politics in rival countries in order to establish some sort of control- a minor war by another name.

To me the UN appears to be an institution that is trying to overstep its bounds and may just become another gnat trying to direct the world to behave.

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