No Wind Friday

From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

DECEMBER 17, 2021

By Paul Homewood

High pressure is settling in now for at least the next week, not only in the UK but also over much of NW Europe.

Hardly surprising then that wind power has disappeared to virtually nothing here, just 0.62 GW:

https://grid.iamkate.com/

We are now dangerously reliant on interconnectors, not least because wind power is also falling in countries like Germany and Denmark:

In Germany, demand is currently running at 70 GW, leaving a shortfall of 10 GW with generation at 60 GW.

Poland, France and Spain have little to spare, which means that the rest of Europe is largely dependent on Norway and Sweden, which together have a surplus of 13 GW.

Given that this surplus all comes from hydro and nuclear (Sweden), there will be no easy way to increase this when the demand for it inevitable arises.

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Prsy
December 18, 2021 10:46 am

At 18:44hrs GMT, wind <3%, solar 0%, biomass 3%.

Alex
December 18, 2021 11:45 am

So, you build windmills a lot.
What do they?
They stop the wind.
What a surprize!

December 18, 2021 12:13 pm

The UK’s supply side problem is going to actually be addressed on the demand side. EVs are not going to happen, at least not in any 1 for 1 swap of ICE to EV by motorists. This is because they are going to simply be too expensive too charge as energy poverty for most of the UK middle class will set in with rapidly rising electric rates. The choice will be< “Do I freeze tonight or do I charge the car?” An easy answer.

So the UK’s supply side electrical problem will be corrected on the demand side by having the middle class be forced to freeze in the dark. And the public will be gaslighted in to accepting this energy poverty, just as they’ve been conditioned to accept COVID business lockdowns and COVID vaccine mandates for what is now merely a nuisance cold virus.

Robert of Texas
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
December 18, 2021 4:03 pm

Energy Rationing coming your way soon…Stalin would be proud.

Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 18, 2021 4:29 pm

Plant a few fast growing trees in the back, for firewood.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
December 19, 2021 7:24 am

“The choice will be< “Do I freeze tonight or do I charge the car?””

I think the old fashioned answer for homeless people used to be “do I go and freeze in the car”.
I did a winter in the UK in 2010 when the temps hit -18C in the night.

I have to say for a one time defence of the cops (I never do this normally).
They came along at about 3-4am and asked if I was OK?

With the right blankets you will survive, and if stuck, turn on the engine to heat it all up..
Having said that, some of the first people to die from Hypo are people who sleep on the streets and in shop entrances…

Robert of Texas
December 18, 2021 4:00 pm

To quote a certain HBO series…”Winter is Coming”.

Dean
December 18, 2021 5:37 pm

Wheel out Griffo and park him in front of one of the turbines.

December 18, 2021 6:43 pm

A useful site for looking at current European electricity generation with drill down by country. Some of the country data are missing or evidently wrong, but it gives an overall impression, and in many cases, interesting signs of historically sensible decisions, and of more recent poor decisions about capacity investment.

https://windeurope.org/about-wind/daily-wind/electricity-mix?utf8=%E2%9C%93&areas=AL%2CAT%2CBE%2CBA%2CBG%2CHR%2CCY%2CCZ%2CDK%2CEE%2CFI%2CFR%2CMK%2CDE%2CGR%2CHU%2CIE%2CIT%2CLV%2CLT%2CLU%2CNL%2CNO%2CPL%2CPT%2CRO%2CRS%2CSK%2CSI%2CES%2CSE%2CCH%2CGB&commit=Apply+filters

Reply to  It doesn't add up...
December 18, 2021 7:16 pm

Thanks, great site.

Ireneusz Palmowski
December 19, 2021 12:11 am

High pressure over Iceland predicts freezing temperatures in Europe.comment image

Jørgen F.
December 19, 2021 1:07 am

…We haven’t had a decent storm over Denmark for the last 630 days. A new record.

https://vejr.tv2.dk/2021-12-09-ny-dansk-rekord-slaaet-i-dag-laengste-stormfri-periode-i-dansk-vejrhistorie

The last time we had storm draft remotely like that was in the 40th. Back then it went on for a decade, and of course it is somehow governed by AMO. But the solution proposed and agreed now is to build even more mills – and so they will stand ready when the draft is over….

The price of electricity here is now around 1$ kWh.

James Bull
December 19, 2021 1:22 am

The old saying was
‘You reap what you sow’
But I think it could be changed to.
‘We reap what they sow’
Although many of the ‘they’ are unelected with a saviour complex that makes them unable and unwilling to see the harm their actions cause because they will save the world even if it means they have to destroy it.

James Bull

Ireneusz Palmowski
December 19, 2021 2:00 am

The winter of 2021/22 may be worthy of Maunder’s Minimum.comment imagecomment image

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
December 19, 2021 5:01 am

Meanwhile, La Niña’s strongest wave of the season is developing.comment image

Hivemind
December 19, 2021 3:30 am

Are those temperatures in Celcius of Farenheit? Even if they’re Celcius, that’s terribly cold. Why on Earth do they think a warmer environment would be a problem?

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  Hivemind
December 19, 2021 5:04 am

It’s only going to get colder, especially starting in early January.

Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
December 19, 2021 7:36 am

sorry but it was already exceptional cold for Estonia in NOV-DEC.
My heating bill is thru the roof!

I can see another cold wave developing from just post christmas with below -25C in URAL.

The scandinavian high is building, which is indication of an extremely cold winter for St Petersburg Russia, thou I doubt it will yet rival the 1941-1943 siege times (when 1000s died of cold and lack of food)…but no doubt it will come back in 2021-2030..

once we get into January I can see regular stuff in the -20C>-30C range appearing for SF and the Baltic states, but hey in their great wisdom, the only budget they decided to cut this winter was the one that certifies ice roads between the islands…err…I guess cos they bought into the wisdom that gormless warming would mean the ice roads will never happen again.

FAIL.

I can see a lot of people getting really annoyed about being cut off from the mainland with no ferries for 6-8 weeks and the shops there running out of produce…..now woulda thunk it???

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  pigs_in_space
December 19, 2021 9:32 am

The pressure difference between the high over the UK and the low over Russia reaches 65 hPa! The pressure over the UK is 1035 hPa, while in the center of the low over Russia is 970 hPa.

Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
December 19, 2021 10:41 am

it never says that on my local railway station (on the trans-sib). No idea where you get your figures from.

I live in the real world.

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  pigs_in_space
December 19, 2021 11:02 am

Here’s the data updated as it comes in.
https://www.wunderground.com/wundermap
The reality is in the actual data, first hand.

Reply to  Ireneusz Palmowski
December 20, 2021 3:51 am

Wunderground?? WTF, it’s almost as bad as the Grauniad!
The resident nutter on there is worse than Griff & Banton combined.

Add to that wunderground is a major propaganda outlet for AGW nuts.
Iit was years I gave up on their crappy forecasts, and adware laden site!

If only the weather they “predicted” could be correct, but it was worse than useles!

Reply to  pigs_in_space
December 20, 2021 1:36 pm

Respectfully, I don’t agree with your assessment. I’ve used wunderground forecasts for a long time. They are usually more reliable than the local TV and radio forecasters.

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  pigs_in_space
December 19, 2021 11:10 am

I check, I don’t wait for processed information.comment image

December 19, 2021 12:57 pm

Is there any studies or discussions around what wind turbines do to weather?

A turbine removes energy from the atmosphere, by definition.
So when we reduce the energy in a given natural system, what effect does that have on the weather, the climate, the planet?

Wind is not limitless. The planetary weather system driven by temperature differences creates a certain amount of energy, every joule we take out is one less joule in the system.

Does this in any way relate to the supposed 15% decrease in wind in Europe this year?
The more you take out the less there is left?

Just curious.

Alba
December 20, 2021 12:52 pm

According to data on that website (https://grid.iamkate.com/) the weekly average production from fossil fuels went up from 10.46GW to 22.02GW over the year up to 7th December 2021. Over the same period production from renewables went down from 9.25GW to 5.18GW. Wind fell from 8.24GW to 1.60GW.

Roger
December 21, 2021 6:07 am

London, Moscow, Lisbon, Rome, Reykjavik and Stocksbridge! The village with the haunted bypass. How did that get on the map?

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