Russia Vetoes UN Security Council Climate Resolution

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Russia has vetoed an attempt to pass a resolution which would have made climate change UN Security Council business.

Russia vetoes UN resolution linking climate change, security

Russia has vetoed a first-of-its-kind U.N. Security Council resolution casting climate change as a threat to international peace and security

By JENNIFER PELTZ Associated Press14 December 2021, 07:30

NEW YORK — Russia on Monday vetoed a first-of-its-kind U.N. Security Council resolution casting climate change as a threat to international peace and security, a vote that sank a years-long effort to make global warming a more central consideration for the U.N.’s most powerful body.

Spearheaded by Ireland and Niger, the proposal called for “incorporating information on the security implications of climate change” into the council’s strategies for managing conflicts and into peacekeeping operations and political missions, at least sometimes. The measure also asked the U.N. secretary-general to make climate-related security risks “a central component” of conflict prevention efforts and to report on how to address those risks in specific hotspots.

But India and veto-wielding Russia voted no, while China abstained.

Russian Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia complained that Monday’s proposed resolution would turn “a scientific and economic issue into a politicized question,” divert the council’s attention from what he called “genuine” sources of conflict in various places and give the council a pretext to intervene in virtually any country on the planet.

“This approach would be a ticking time bomb,” he said.

India and China questioned the idea of tying conflict to climate, and they predicted trouble for the Glasgow commitments if the Security Council — a body that can impose sanctions and dispatch peacekeeping troops — started weighing in more.

“What the Security Council needs to do is not a political show,” Chinese Ambassador Zhang Jun said.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/russia-vetoes-resolution-linking-climate-change-security-81725579

The resolution, if passed, could have led to utter insanity – UN peacekeepers deployed to the Amazon to protect the rainforest, using military weapons against Brazilian forest workers, or even an international military blockade of Aussie coal exports.

Although the bill was officially sponsored by Ireland and Niger, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Biden administration helped push it forward. John Kerry has been pushing hard for people to accept his evidence free claim that climate change is a security threat.

I suggest Russian troops massing on the Ukrainian border while Putin publicly laments the fall of the Soviet Union, and Chinese aggression in the South China Sea and the Indian border, with a real risk of imminent invasion of Taiwan, are probably slightly more pressing security concerns than what the weather will be like a hundred years from now.

Update (EW): The UN press release and background is available here.

Update (EW): John Shewchuk points out this is a repeat attempt, they also tried this UN Security climate stunt last February.

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Scissor
December 13, 2021 6:06 pm

Another long face for Kerry.

dk_
Reply to  Scissor
December 13, 2021 8:24 pm

John Kerry walks into a bar….

billtoo
Reply to  dk_
December 13, 2021 9:56 pm

bartender says “hit him again!”

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  billtoo
December 13, 2021 10:03 pm

John Kerry says, “Don’t medal with my face!”

DonM
Reply to  dk_
December 14, 2021 11:09 am

… the bartender says:

“pogue mo thoin and get the hell out of my bar greenboy … ya thick mick spudfkr cntrag“.

which is followed by applause from the primarily Irish patrons.

Don
Reply to  dk_
December 14, 2021 11:53 am

John returns from the mens’ john at Alexandria’s bar and asks: What’s this string doing in my Bloody Mary?

Robertvd
Reply to  Scissor
December 14, 2021 1:31 am

Another long face for Kerry’s handlers the wizards behind the curtain who could print all they needed to buy/corrupt the system. 

toorightmate
December 13, 2021 6:11 pm

Hasn’t the world changed when Russia and India are the good guys?

n.n
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 13, 2021 7:05 pm

A [violent] coup without cause. A nation divided by choice.

Steve Case
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 13, 2021 7:53 pm

 So I’m prepared to accept the possibility that we have been told a complete pack of lies about what is happening in the Ukraine.
_________________________________________

Yeah, that’s a pretty good assessment of today’s news media.

bonbon
Reply to  Steve Case
December 14, 2021 3:26 am

Victoria Nuland actually told the truth, above.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 3:47 am

I wonder if U.S. Attorney, Durham has questioned Victoria Nuland yet?

She didn’t tell the truth all the time.

Richard Page
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 5:25 am

Which bits? She avoided telling the truth about the Maidan protests being funded by the US State Department, sort of lied about having picked the pro-west government ahead of time and blatantly lied in her testimony to the US govt about Ukraine. I don’t think that justifies a blanket assertion that she told the truth.

bonbon
Reply to  Richard Page
December 14, 2021 7:10 am

Everyone knows $5 billion is a stack of truth.

David A
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 13, 2021 8:31 pm

A lot of people have lost a lot of trust in many institutions ( medical, science, sports leagues, entertainment, and All politics.) For very good reasons.

gringojay
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 13, 2021 8:55 pm

What makes a place The Ukraine? A common concept is that the Slavic word “ukraina” is the name’s origin and means borderlands (plural). During the USSR epoch the region was called in Russian “The Ukraine” – the borderlands.

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Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  gringojay
December 13, 2021 9:35 pm

Your map is not really that clear in its intent. Crimea was taken from the Russians and handed over to Ukraine by Kruschev. Now there are problems.

Lrp
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
December 14, 2021 12:46 am

And the Russians took it from the Crimean tartars

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Lrp
December 14, 2021 12:53 am

And they took it from whoever who took it from whoever etc.
Check the US border changes for the last 500 years and then criticize.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
December 14, 2021 3:38 am

The old problem of irredentism. Every nation can claim some lost land so wars never end. Mussolini wanted the Roman Empire back.

whiten
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
December 14, 2021 7:50 am

But Crimea is very important to Russia.

You can’t have a bunch of anarchists blockading the Russian sea trade, by causing trouble and instability in Crimea, as per the wish and will of their master, powerful western political and otherwise special interests.

One can’t go against the Russia’s “wind pipe”, the Russia global trade and it’s economical value, and in the same time expecting Russia to play “dead”,
and not respond accordingly.

It is stupid to punch the bear in the face and expect a bear’s smile back.
(As berrio found out, rather quickly and shockingly)

Russia can not afford for Crimea to go unstable, anarchic and out of normal basic order… too costly, far too much.

cheers

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
December 23, 2021 4:39 am

Curious. What’s the basic meaning and hence, etymology, of irredentism?

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Graham Lyons
December 23, 2021 4:44 am
alastair gray
Reply to  gringojay
December 13, 2021 9:44 pm

All of this resonates with the slide to war in 1938 and 1939. Hitler’s expansion into the Rhineland Sudetenland and Danzig corridor were arguably justified by the ethnicity of the territory claimed, and there may be a case on Russia’s side in parts of Ukraine. On the other hand the infliction of famine on the Ukraine by Stalin underlines Ukraine’s wish to stay out of the Russian state.
Putin’s brutal repression of dissent at home is also a powerful reason to support Ukraine. On the other hand Ukraine is as corrupt an oligarchy as Russia so one might argue ” a plague on both their houses.

Having helped bring down the communist state we could have been helpful to the renaissance of Russia and avoided creating a formidable enemy while we kow towed to an even more formidable one in China

bonbon
Reply to  alastair gray
December 14, 2021 3:30 am

No mention of the SS Galicia? Today’s Bandera followers are so unbelievable no EU TV channel dares show their marches. And 2 prominent Green German Government ministers would have to hide under the carpet, calling for arming Ukraine.
There is some pushback, but all in the shadows when reason sleeps.

Richard Page
Reply to  alastair gray
December 14, 2021 5:32 am

Arguably Ukraine is a far more corrupt state than Russia; the oligarchs are as entrenched now as they ever were under a pro-Russian government and what can you really say about a regime that employed the convicted Georgian criminal Sakashvilli as a regional governor?

bonbon
Reply to  Richard Page
December 14, 2021 7:19 am

His return home backfired….

Richard Page
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 1:09 pm

It did, I think he was banking on a favourable regime change!

Reply to  alastair gray
December 23, 2021 4:42 am

I really don’t understand why China is “the enemy”.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 13, 2021 9:51 pm

“The Ukraine” is akin to “die Ostmark” (Nazi designation for Austria). Both terms imply that the territory is a dependent part of the larger whole.

If we are sympathetic to the idea that the country is a distinct and independent entity, we say “Ukraine” without the definite article, if we want to convey support for Russian domination of the territory, then “The Ukraine”.

Of course I also understand that long usage in English can be the explanation for choosing to use a term without supporting the contemporary political undertones of the term. For example, if FJB calls someone a “Negro”, he probably is just having a dementia episode rather than pining for Jim Crow.

Duker
Reply to  Rich Davis
December 13, 2021 10:48 pm

Ostmark?
The country was/is named Osterreich….means same thing, or France is Frankenreich.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Duker
December 14, 2021 10:11 am

Die Ostmark, as I said, was the Nazi designation for Österreich after the Anschluss (annexation) in 1938. This was logically necessary since Österreich means eastern empire, but the territory was then part of Deutsches Reich (German Empire).

Duker
Reply to  Rich Davis
December 14, 2021 1:00 pm

Reich doesnt have exact english translation but its best given as ‘realm’. The actual empire time was called Kaiserreich with their love of compound words

Rich Davis
Reply to  Duker
December 14, 2021 2:38 pm

Yes, realm is a reasonable synonym but it was usually translated as empire from the origins in the Holy Roman Empire as both Germany and Austro-Hungary had kaisers (caesars).

Is there some reason why you keep deflecting with irrelevant points? It’s almost as if you know it’s correct but you don’t want to acknowledge my point so you keep making comments as if something I wrote was incorrect.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Duker
December 14, 2021 2:43 pm

And btw it’s Frankreich, not Frankenreich, Duker.

Duker
Reply to  Rich Davis
December 13, 2021 10:53 pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiya

New Mexico is in big trouble, New York is next

Rich Davis
Reply to  Duker
December 14, 2021 3:12 pm

Non sequitur much?

Duker
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 13, 2021 11:04 pm

Surprisingly large number of US broken arrow incidents…probably most weren’t publicised at the time. Some were just weapons transfer and weren’t armed while others did have the initial conventional explosive detonate but obviously didn’t read to chain reaction
https://www.atomicarchive.com/almanac/broken-arrows/index.html

Klaus
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 14, 2021 5:21 am

Eric, since I‘m living close (Germany) and follow all the developments, I can assure you, that they put accidentally (purposely?) fascists (MSM calls them extrem nationalist) in power and the current president bows to their power. Just recently they celebrated army day and the president called the WW2 nazi collaborators national hero’s. That says it all!
They have their own battalion (Azos) and are very active against minorities.

bonbon
Reply to  Klaus
December 14, 2021 7:21 am

No German TV dares show the Kiev torchlight marches. It is likely illegal to do so. Ironically then Kiev hides all this under German law.

Rich Davis
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 3:17 pm

Kind of like the MSM doesn’t like to show just how peaceful the mostly peaceful Antifa/BLM race riots were?

At least Antifa/BLM types are in the Brandon Administration whereas the National Corps have no members of parliament. in Ukraine.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Klaus
December 14, 2021 12:40 pm

Ok that’s an amazing qualification- living close.

You neglect to mention anything about how many seats the National Corps have in the Rada (parliament). They are to Azov as Sinn Fein was to the IRA. It’s Azov by the way (not Azos). And the answer to my question is? Wait for it…

Zero out of 450.

Reply to  Klaus
December 23, 2021 4:47 am

heros

bonbon
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 14, 2021 7:17 am

Remember the Kursk boomer sinking? What Russian airwaves were saying would chill the blood. We were so close to WWIII no one would tolerate the thought.

meab
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 14, 2021 10:42 am

It’s extremely unlikely that the conventional explosives detonated and killed 11 people. There is a database of all such accidents involving nuclear weapons – you can access a summary here;

https://atomicarchive.com/almanac/broken-arrows/index.html

I don’t doubt that a weapon was dropped without detonating the conventional explosives as I’m aware of another incident where a nuclear weapon was dropped without the conventional explosives detonating that didn’t make the database.

Most likely Radio Moscow was lying, they often did, and Russia is still known to spread misinformation.

Nicholas Harding
Reply to  meab
December 14, 2021 11:42 am

I remember a client, who made fuses for certain missiles, remarking at the time of the missile silo explosion in Arkansas (? memory) in the early 1980s remarking that the fuses were over fail-safed. I said you mean to tell me if we launch there is a good chance that Ivan, crossing Red Square, gets killed not by a blast from a nuc, but by 2 tons of failing steel? Client and his chief engineer smiled.

Aidan
Reply to  meab
December 15, 2021 5:43 am

My thinking is that if the Conventional Detonator Package exploded, then it would, as designed, initiate the Nuclear reaction. Unless they had already removed the Nuclear Package which is unlikely.
If by some unlikely circumstance the Conventional Explosives detonated without causing the Nuclear reaction then that would have been a really bad ‘Dirty Bomb’ Incident and would have been hard to imagine so few casualties or it being able to be covered up.

Oddgeir
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 21, 2021 4:44 pm

As far as I understand it, troops are building east of the border to discourage NATO outplacement of weaponry which is basically meant to be used on the far eastern Ukraine frontline, i.e e.g against local communities with more business eastwards than westwards.

As far as I understand it, the Russkie took back Crimea to ensure NATO did not establish a maritime base in Sevastopol.

I remember history as it happened. I might be adult.

Oddgeir

bonbon
Reply to  n.n
December 14, 2021 3:25 am

A Na*zi coup paid for by Obama, Biden and Victoria Nuland (current diplomat for Russia) . Video of Nuland saying the coup cost $5 billion,
Victoria Nuland’s Admits Washington Has Spent $5 Billion to “Subvert Ukraine” 80,030 views Feb 9, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fYcHLouXY&t=462s

Hey, regime change costs!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 3:52 am

Let’s hope it costs Victoria Nuland.

Richard Page
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 5:36 am

The amounts that were paid to the leaders of the Maidan protest have been a matter of record in the US State Department accounts.

bonbon
Reply to  Richard Page
December 14, 2021 7:22 am

Just wanted to hear it from the horses mouth.

alastair gray
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 13, 2021 9:31 pm

From the works of Tsu Chen “The art of war” I think “never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself”
what is Putin thinking of in obstructing this UN idiocy. But thank God that he is.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  alastair gray
December 13, 2021 11:11 pm

Don’t think the “while he is making a mistake” line can ever formally be credited to anyone.

Confident it wasn’t ‘Art of War’ (or at least the Chinese version).

I think the first solid evidence was from a political type cartoon in the mid 19th showing Napoleon giving advice to his Marshalls while observing a battle. As far as I know there is zero record of Napoleon actually saying this.

This line sounds all good and wise, but the footnote should cover that once your enemy has completed his mistake, you need to punish him for it before he has time to fix it error.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Craig from Oz
December 14, 2021 3:54 am

“This line sounds all good and wise, but the footnote should cover that once your enemy has completed his mistake, you need to punish him for it before he has time to fix it error.”

Yes, the second part is the most important part.

John Endicott
Reply to  Craig from Oz
December 14, 2021 4:07 am

The closest I can find with a quick google is an attribution to Napoleon

An 1836 multi-volume history book titled “French Revolution” dates the quotation to a battle in 1805. These words may have been transformed into the modern maxim [FR]:

“In that case,” said Napoleon, “let us wait twenty minutes; when the enemy is making a false movement we must take good care not to interrupt him.”

How accurate that history book is to what was actually said in 1805 is unknown, but that seems to be the closest source of the quote.

DMacKenzie
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 13, 2021 9:37 pm

Russians know that CO2 “policing” by the UN has the potential to put a nation’s manufacturing output into disarray with CO2 emissions rules and confuses government administrator’s supply chain priorities. This is something they very much wish upon the Western economies, but not on themselves. Their programs making use of enviro group “useful idiots” in the West is already very successful without any need for the UN to stick their noses into Russian industrial capacity.

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Gregory Woods
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 14, 2021 1:49 am

It is the US that is stirring up trouble in Ukraine…

bonbon
Reply to  Gregory Woods
December 14, 2021 3:34 am

It was actually Britain’s MI6 operative Christopher Steele who was involved in the Maidan. The very same Steele of the totally discredited Russiagate caper that ruined Trump’s presidency. Of course, as Nuland said above the US invested $5 billion.
Result – the country with the lowest GDP in Europe.

John Endicott
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 4:13 am

You mean the totally discredited Russiagate caper that tried *and failed* to ruin Trump’s presidency. Despite the steel dossier being the driver of the “russia coluuuuusssssion” conspiracy theories that lead to impeachment (and endless blathering of talking heads in the MSM nattering on and on about it), Trump remained in office for his entire term and Russiagate did not actually stop Trump from doing anything while in office.

bonbon
Reply to  John Endicott
December 14, 2021 4:54 am

Russiagate almost started WWIII – the damage is still suppurating. Trump could not accomplish his goals. Not to mention trying to find sane admin personnel. Flynn was quickly removed. MI6 definitely did great damage.

Richard Page
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 5:40 am

Steele wasn’t employed by MI6 at that time – he had started his own private company.

bonbon
Reply to  Richard Page
December 14, 2021 7:23 am

Orbis. Sure. You leave the firm in a box…

Richard Page
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 5:38 am

Steele was possibly Skripals handler as well. It’s a small world isn’t it?

bonbon
Reply to  Richard Page
December 14, 2021 7:24 am

Likely knows where the skeletons are buried….

John Endicott
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 9:32 am

He probably buried a few of them personally.

bonbon
Reply to  Richard Page
December 15, 2021 9:10 am

Steele’s teammate Pablo Miller also later together at Orbis, recruited Skripal.

Raven
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 9:59 am

Victoria Nuland, Fiona Hill, Igor Danchenko . . all good mates at the Brookings Institution. 

Raven
Reply to  Raven
December 14, 2021 10:03 am

Fiona Hill was also good friends with Christopher Steele.
Cosy.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Gregory Woods
December 14, 2021 3:55 am

Saying it is so doesn’t necessarily make it so. Evidence would be nice.

bonbon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 4:55 am

Victoria Nuland said so in such a nice charming speech in 2014. Link above.

bonbon
Reply to  bonbon
December 15, 2021 9:12 am

And since 2014 another $2.4 billion and counting. All US taxdollars.

Alba
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 14, 2021 4:39 am

Ukraine, not the Ukraine.

DonM
Reply to  Eric Worrall
December 14, 2021 11:33 am

Russia is not stirring up trouble.

There is simply a large caravan of potential immigrants that want a better life in Ukraine, outside of Russia.

If they can safely cross the border, and become established in Ukraine, their standard of living will increase and they will become hard working assets, of benefit to the Ukraine economic community.

If the Ukrainian government uses military force to stop the immigrant caravan(s) (and protect its borders) it will show that they are actually selfish bigot/racist that don’t care about their neighbors.

jChaney
Reply to  toorightmate
December 13, 2021 6:54 pm

India has always been a “good guy” sadly Russia was turned into a “bad guy” by John McCain and the rest of the war hawks after Bush left office. While Bush was President, he did a hell of a lot to normalize relations with Russia. In fact, we were making great strides towards becoming friends with Russia, but McCain and his friends hated the idea, and did everything they could to stop that from happening. The changes that would have brought the world closer together were instead thrown out because Obama listened to the war hawks.

The end result was that in just a few short weeks after Obama took office, all of the gains we made with Russia over the prior 8 years were wasted.

MarkW
Reply to  jChaney
December 13, 2021 7:35 pm

If anyone turned Russia into a bad guy, it was Putin.
Nobody forced Russia to go around invading it’s neighbors.

Camaalot
Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2021 2:45 am

Nobody forced NATO to expand, breaking its promises.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2021 4:01 am

That’s exactly right. Putin wants a new Russian Empire and he’s not that interested in cooperating with the West.

I see you got six down votes from know-nothings.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 6:27 am

Putin’s paid trolls are always active.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
December 15, 2021 4:48 am

Yes, they are pretty sensitive to criticism.

Dennis G Sandberg
Reply to  jChaney
December 13, 2021 8:08 pm

McCain, sad but true. Obama didn’t necessarily listen to the war hawks, he just didn’t want to “appear weak on defense”. It’ll be interesting to see how Biden avoids appearing weak with the Ukrainian and Taiwan situations.

David A
Reply to  Dennis G Sandberg
December 13, 2021 8:36 pm

He played their game fully, while wreaking havoc in the Middle East.

bonbon
Reply to  David A
December 14, 2021 4:58 am

With a Nobel Peace Prize, bombing Libya into the stone age, causing the migrant crisis for the EU.
No surprise as his stepdad Soetoro was a CIA wet man in Indonesia.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dennis G Sandberg
December 14, 2021 4:02 am

Biden already appears weak. Biden is weak. Biden will avoid getting in Russia or China’s way, while trying to make himself look like a tough guy. The Russians and Chinese are not fooled.

David A
Reply to  jChaney
December 13, 2021 8:34 pm

Agreed. The same statists people made certain Trump and Russia never had a chance to resume that progress.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  David A
December 14, 2021 4:03 am

Got any names?

bonbon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 5:01 am

Start with Dearlove, Steele, follow the trail. This is by now extremely well documented.

Dennis
Reply to  jChaney
December 13, 2021 8:49 pm

I watched the television interview with President Putin a few years ago, a US broadcaster presentation, and I was most impressed with him and his common sense approach.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dennis
December 14, 2021 4:04 am

His common sense approach doesn’t mean he is not a murderous dictator.

bonbon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 7:27 am

That comment does not mean you are not the Yorkshire Ripper.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
December 15, 2021 4:51 am

I think there’s more evidence of Putin being a murderous dictator, than of me being the Yorkshire Ripper.

Rich Davis
Reply to  jChaney
December 13, 2021 10:03 pm

jChaney
Your memory is a bit flawed.

Or have you forgotten the Hildebeast’s mistranslated “Reset button” that was supposed to restore friendly relations with Russia after W allegedly damaged the relationship? Or Obozo’s hot mike incident in 2012 where he promised he could be more open about his support for Putin after the election?

bonbon
Reply to  Rich Davis
December 14, 2021 3:38 am

Well Hildebeast is back warning of the end of democracy, the universe and everything, if Trump is re-elected. I would not let the beast near any button.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 4:11 am

Hillary and all the other radical Democrats are making a great effort to continue to demonize Trump because they are afraid Trump is going to be president again.

It’s the Democrats who are destroying Democracy, not the Republcans. The Democrats always accuse the other side of doing what they are doing.

Trump will destroy the socialist paradise the radical Democrats are dreaming of, but that’s not the same as destroying Democracy, it is, in fact, saving Democracy from radical Democrat Socialists.

Hillary gets socialism and democracy confused.

Sure do hope she runs for president next time so Donald can beat her a second time.

Don’t rule a Hillary run out. Who else do the Democrats have? Nobody. Joe Manchin would be a good Democrat candidate, but no Democrat would vote for him because he’s not radical enough for them. Hillary is about the only one left.

Run, Hillary, run! That is, if you are not indicted at the time. That would not be good for your candidacy. The U.S. attorney looking into Impeachmentgate, has already charged two of Hillary’s cronies with lying to Congress. He’s getting closer, Hillary. Nervous yet?

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bonbon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 4:34 am

It sure looks like they have no one else. Unless Kamala gets there first?

Raven
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 10:11 am

You mean Kamala, the border czar who hasn’t even been to the border? (although she was close) . . that Kamala?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
December 15, 2021 4:52 am

I think Kamala is a lost cause.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 10:12 am

Hillary gets socialism and democracy confused.”
Talking about being confused… Tom, you do realise a country can be democratic and socialist right?

DonM
Reply to  Simon
December 14, 2021 11:43 am

You need to define your terms (eg socialism) so others (and more importantly you) can have a reasonable conversation.

(But my guess is that you would rather have a conversation with variable definitions or the terminology that is used)

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Simon
December 15, 2021 4:54 am

Not the way Hillary wants to run things. She will be socialist and authoritarian. She and the other Democrats are currently trying to undermine the voting process. I don’t consider that democratic.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 15, 2021 3:09 am

“It’s the Democrats who are destroying Democracy, not the Republcans. The Democrats always accuse the other side of doing what they are doing.”

Please, enough with this democracy crap (Socrates, where are you); Hillary et al are trying to destroy our Constitutional Republic!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Walter Keane
December 15, 2021 4:55 am

Thanks for pointing that out.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  jChaney
December 14, 2021 3:59 am

“In fact, we were making great strides towards becoming friends with Russia, but McCain and his friends hated the idea, and did everything they could to stop that from happening.”

How so? I’m seeing a lot of these claims, but nobody provides any evidence to back up these claims. Where’s some evidence for McCain and the other warhawks undermining Ukraine?

Who are the other warhawks?

I’m sensing conspiracy theories.

bonbon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 4:40 am

See Victoria Nuland’s frank admission, link above. McCain lost his marbles long before. Biden oversaw the Maidan coup as Obama’s viceroy. Christopher Steel of London’s MI6 drafted Nulands memos on Ukraine. See Harding’s Collusion.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
December 15, 2021 4:57 am

So these warhawks didn’t actually start a war?

Rich Davis
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 3:09 pm

When they say “undermining the Ukraine” they mean the bipartisan support for helping the Ukrainians throw Putin’s puppet out of office.

When they speak of neo-nazi militants they are referring to people who are as much a part of the Ukrainian government as the KKK is part of the Brandon Administration.

Either they are knowing trolls for Russia or they are useful idiots mouthing Kremlin propaganda.

And let me say that I have no affection for John McCain.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rich Davis
December 15, 2021 5:04 am

I honor McCain’s military service, but he really let me down in his later years with his consuming hatred of Trump, to the point that he cast a vote in favor of Obamacare, just to hurt Trump, that ended up hurting millions of Americans by jacking the price of their health insurance sky high.

Trump questioned McCain’s military standing and McCain lost his mind over it, he was so bitter.

John, what the hell do you care what Trump says on the campaign trail? You let it get to you. You know you served honorably in the war, as does everyone else. That should be enough. You don’t need praise from politicians. But apparently *you* do need praise, or you throw a fit.

A very sad, hurtful ending.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  toorightmate
December 13, 2021 7:09 pm

I agree toorightmate, if I had been told fifty years ago that in my lifetime what was essentially the USSR would be protecting citizens of what was then the free world from the subversive intents of their own politicians — or for that matter that the weather would become a fiery political issue — I would not have believed it.

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Anon
Reply to  Chris Hanley
December 13, 2021 7:50 pm

Hi Chris,

If you really want to see how twisted the US is with Russia, I really recommend this documentary. The film maker had to re-edit his entire film when he finally “stumbled upon the truth”, and John McCain was right in he middle of it. It is the basis of all of the Russia sanctions. The first 20 minutes of the film are a little slow, but when the “wheels come off” it becomes a Cold War spy thriller. The full film is at the bottom of this web page (white arrow to play):

The Magnitsky Act: Behind the Scenes
https://swprs.org/the-magnitsky-act-movie/

Description here:

A Blacklisted Film and the New Cold War

Why is the U.S. mainstream media so frightened of a documentary that debunks the beloved story of how “lawyer” Sergei Magnitsky uncovered massive Russian government corruption and died as a result? Instead we – in the land of the free, home of the brave – are protected from seeing this documentary produced by filmmaker Andrei Nekrasov who was known as a fierce critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin but who in this instance found the West’s widely accepted Magnitsky storyline to be a fraud.

Nekrasov’s powerful deconstruction of the Magnitsky myth – and the film’s subsequent blacklisting throughout the “free world” – recall other instances in which the West’s propaganda lines don’t stand up to scrutiny, so censorship and ad hominem attacks become the weapons of choice to defend “perception management” narratives…

But the Magnitsky myth has a special place as the seminal fabrication of the dangerous New Cold War between the nuclear-armed West and nuclear-armed Russia.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/08/02/a-blacklisted-film-and-the-new-cold-war/

If anyone has the time and the interest, I HIGHLY recommend it. If the US govt. can do the above, then altering the climate data is just a part of standard operating procedure to maintain a narrative they want to project.

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bonbon
Reply to  Anon
December 14, 2021 8:21 am

British Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab announced that the UK under the ”Global Anti-Corruption Sanctions Regulations of 2021” will go after the same Magnitsky accused and more. In other words a UK Magnitsky is already here.
Blinken, Yellin already commended Raab.
Made in the UK.

David A
Reply to  toorightmate
December 13, 2021 8:27 pm

India has a pretty solid history.

Steph
Reply to  David A
December 13, 2021 8:39 pm

History doesn’t trump current times. India will look to themselves, whichever way the wind might blow. Not faulting the country or people, I do the same every day.

Robertvd
Reply to  toorightmate
December 14, 2021 1:38 am

And Who were the good guys ? Where are people not treated like cannon fodder and guinea pigs ? Where are you a free person ? Where do those in power not want to know everything about you ?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Robertvd
December 14, 2021 4:18 am

Oklahoma.

Tom Abbott
December 13, 2021 6:19 pm

Russia is just exercising common sense.

Too bad the U.S. leadership can’t do the same.

jChaney
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 13, 2021 6:55 pm

It is rather sad that Russia had to remind the US that they are supposed to be about freedom.

n.n
Reply to  jChaney
December 13, 2021 7:07 pm

Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness… and a notably market-oriented [democratic] system. Baby steps.

Rich Davis
Reply to  jChaney
December 13, 2021 10:19 pm

I would have no illusions. Putin blocks these resolutions because of Russian interests.

We should not confuse the unintended consequences with the main intent.

It’s a good thing to be sure, and some things about Putinism are not incompatible with US conservatism (classical liberalism) just as not every National Socialist policy in Germany was pure evil.

On balance however, k!lling political opponents, journalists, and annexing parts of other countries ought to give us pause before becoming fanbois of Vlad. His resume looks a lot like that of the house painter from Braunau am Inn.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Rich Davis
December 14, 2021 4:22 am

“I would have no illusions. Putin blocks these resolutions because of Russian interests.”

That’s right. Putin doesn’t want UN Climate Change inspectors traipsing around his country.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  jChaney
December 14, 2021 4:21 am

I don’t think the current government of the U.S. is about freedom. it’s all about controlling the populace, to them. And the reason they want to control the populace is to keep themselves in power.

Robert of Texas
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 13, 2021 7:22 pm

U.S. leadership was ELECTED by our ignorant voting citizens. That and the dead and illegal voters of course.

David A
Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 13, 2021 8:39 pm

Some think the globalists are crazy with a “death jab” to those who vote for them. Apparently they are just securing that vote for eternity.

bonbon
Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 14, 2021 8:22 am

With the help of Lord Moloch-Brown’s Smartmatic.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Robert of Texas
December 15, 2021 5:10 am

I’m not so sure they were elected.

James B.
December 13, 2021 6:25 pm

Just from the summary above, I agree with Russia this time.

John Endicott
Reply to  James B.
December 14, 2021 4:18 am

Even a stop (analog) clock is right twice a day.

bonbon
Reply to  John Endicott
December 14, 2021 5:06 am

You got that right – now you can once more today be right. Tik Tok…

John Endicott
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 7:07 am

Sadly, bonbon, you don’t ever manage to be as accurate as a stopped clock. But I’m sure your poor track record is all Mark Carney and the evil British Banksters fault, after all everything else wrong in the world is their fault according to you.

bonbon
Reply to  John Endicott
December 14, 2021 8:35 am

Marc Carney, the circus carny, is Canadian. He needs $100 trillion immediately with a relentless, ruthless focus on NetZero (his words at Bloomberg).

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2021-11-01/net-zero-a-ruthless-relentless-focus-for-gfanz-carney-video

Curiously Carney is all about times and dates. Somewhere a clock is ticking.

Ed Hanley
December 13, 2021 6:26 pm

It’s been interesting to live long enough to watch Russia using common sense in the UN while the rest of the world, notably, including the US, goes bats#|t crazy.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Ed Hanley
December 14, 2021 4:26 am

I think that’s because Putin doesn’t believe in Human-caused Climate Change.

Remember, the Russian temperature computer model of the world shows the least temperature rise of all the computer models. If the UN were honest, they would settle on the Russian model as most representative of reality, and based on that, they should give up their attacks on CO2.

So Putin is not inclined to support an intrusive inspection of climate change issues when climate change is not really an issue.

John Hultquist
December 13, 2021 6:26 pm
Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  John Hultquist
December 13, 2021 8:31 pm

I think the original post was about the ‘talkfest’. This post is about the actual vote and veto.

ChrisB
December 13, 2021 6:32 pm

Why do we need entertainers, don’t we have Kerry et al?

Redge
Reply to  ChrisB
December 13, 2021 11:14 pm

My issues with these entertainers are the cost of the ticket and being forced to go to the show

Tom Halla
December 13, 2021 6:35 pm

It is a bad situation when one agrees more with Russia and China more than the US in the UN.

LdB
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 13, 2021 8:28 pm

It’s even weirder that both understood the implications of why not to do it and yet the “leaders of the free world” couldn’t make that connection.

The back story was interesting that support is currently 113 to 80 on the floor which surprised me how the support was so low given the MSM pushing.

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  LdB
December 14, 2021 4:31 am

I think it is mostly in the Developed Nations that CO2 is thought of as a crisis. The rest of the world just want their electricity.

After all their trying, the UN still can’t sell the Human-caused Climate Change narrative to everyone.

commieBob
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 13, 2021 8:38 pm

Even during the cold war, the Soviets would occasionally say true things. The same with the Chinese. The problem, of course, would be knowing which statements were the true ones.

bonbon
Reply to  commieBob
December 14, 2021 4:22 am

Simple – everything London and D.C. say is truth, and everything Russia and China say is false. What could be easier than that. Even truthiness is too complicated.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  commieBob
December 14, 2021 4:32 am

Actions speak louder than words.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Halla
December 14, 2021 4:28 am

Russia and China are authoritarian States. They recognize when another authoritarian organization like the United Nations is trying to intrude on their territory, and they reject the idea. It makes perfect sense.

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bonbon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 5:14 am

Why so many like to quote Hannah Arendt’s Authoritarian Personality beats me – that is from the Frankfurt School founded by the Hungarian Communist International official Georg Lukacs, which became the Soviet Union’s most important cultural warfare operation against the West.

SMC
December 13, 2021 6:42 pm

It’s always a strange thing when I agree with a potential enemy.

jChaney
Reply to  SMC
December 13, 2021 7:02 pm

The only reason they are an enemy is because John McCain and the war hawks wanted them to be. During the 8 years of President Bush, the US and Russia had made serious strides towards becoming friends. But John McCain and the war hawks from both parties hate Russia, so McCain did everything possible to block and obstruct any changes that Bush wanted to make that would have helped make it happen. Then, once Bush was gone, it took just a few weeks for Obama to waste all of the progress that had been made over the prior 8 years.

Anon
Reply to  jChaney
December 13, 2021 7:18 pm

There is so much that gets glossed over and misreported in the American media when it comes Russia & the USSR.

Fun fact: Who is aware that Putin asked to join NATO in his first year in office?

For the old timers here, Vladimir Pozner used to have a show with Phil Donahue during the Cold War and often appeared on Nightline with Ted Koppel to give the Soviet perspective.

See:

https://youtu.be/8X7Ng75e5gQ?t=1594

And history is filled with incidents like this. All it would have taken was a Security Council veto by the Soviet Union and the Korean War never would have happened. We are taught that the USSR foolishly boycotted the UN which gave the US a freehand, however, after the Soviet Union fell, and Stalin’s archives were opened, did we really learn what that missed veto was all about.

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MarkW
Reply to  Anon
December 13, 2021 7:39 pm

You are aware that we fought China, not Russia in Korea and that China and Russia always been enemies?

Or have you been told to gloss over any facts that make Russia look bad.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  MarkW
December 13, 2021 7:56 pm

I wonder where the mig fighters came from?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
December 13, 2021 8:12 pm

The usual Chinese knockoffs. 🙂

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
December 13, 2021 8:22 pm

Not at that time. A mig was hi-tech in those days. They were manned by Soviet pilots flying Chinese colours. The soviets didn’t want to be seen as being involved directly in the conflict. The US was offering big bucks to anyone that could get their hands on a mig. The soviets wanted to get their hands on the US sabers.
The Chinese were the guys on the ground dying in droves with pitchforks in their hands.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
December 14, 2021 4:45 am

Yes, the Russians contributed a lot to the Korean war.

They lost the war anyway.

South Korea is still South Korea.

Anon
Reply to  MarkW
December 13, 2021 8:26 pm

Not at that time. And from the Stalin archives, Stalin wanted the US to intervene in Korea and had Malik deliberately skip the UNSC vote. The agreement was that Mao would provide the men and Stalin the weapons. Truman felt he need UN participation to involve America in the war, and Stalin was happy to oblige by skipping the UNSC meeting. After Stalin died, Mao continued to drag out the peace talks to extract more weapons from the Soviet Union. Mao was hoping to get the atomic bomb from Russia and his continual squeezing of Khrushchev for more weapons, along with Khrushchev’s denunciation of Stalin and the “cult of personality” that surrounded him, finally caused the split.

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Anon
December 14, 2021 4:48 am

“And from the Stalin archives, Stalin wanted the US to intervene in Korea and had Malik deliberately skip the UNSC vote.”

That makes sense, if true. I’m not sure why Stalin would want U.S. forces near his border, but maybe you have an explanation for why Stalin wanted the U.S. involved in Korea.

Richard Page
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 5:57 am

The North Koreans were the ones that had the Russians convinced they could conquer South Korea – Stalin had to convince the Chinese to back North Korea.

David A
Reply to  MarkW
December 13, 2021 8:43 pm

Not certain that discounts the potential impact of the Soviet Union on the situation at the time?

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  David A
December 13, 2021 9:09 pm

A simple Wikipedia search would yield some basic information. There are references available if one should choose to search further. Black and white are cool concepts. Unfortunately, the world is full of shades of grey.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  David A
December 15, 2021 5:17 am

The Soviet Union, at the time, was trying to foist communism on the entire world and during the subsequent years they made big inroads into a lot of nations, turning them communist.

At one time, it looked like communsim was on a roll and couldn’t be stopped, ane would take over the whole world, and that’s the reason the U.S. opposed them at every turn.

That’s why the U.S. fought in Korea and why they fought in Vietnam. It was to stop the momentum of the communist movement.

LdB
Reply to  MarkW
December 13, 2021 8:50 pm

They haven’t always been enemies .. the background to Stalin and Mao era.
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/revisiting-stalins-and-maos-motivations-korean-war

Tom Abbott
Reply to  LdB
December 14, 2021 4:50 am

The Russians are afraid the Chicoms have plans for Russian territory. The Russians have moved a lot fo troops to the Chinese border in recent months for some reason.

bonbon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 7:05 am

” for some reason ” ?
What do you think Russia and China’s greatest headache right now is?
Hint – Afghanistan implosion and more terrorism.

Made in the USA.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
December 15, 2021 5:25 am

Made by a fool named Biden.

Biden’s stupidity has put the entire Afghan population in danger of starvation.

I saw the head of the UN World Food Council on tv the other day, and he explained that the Taliban would allow the UN Food Council to bring in food and they would not interfere in the distribution of that food, but would allow the UN Food Council to handle the entire process.

The head of this organization sounded like he had both feet on the ground and knows what he is doing and I think the United States should back this program 100 percent, as long as the Taliban do not interfere in the food distribution.

The man said it would cost $220 million per month to feed all of Afghanistan’s 25 million people.

The United States should foot this entire bill.

Joe Biden is responsible for the misery taking place in Afghanistan after his cowardly withdrawal.

Biden should feed the Afghans he is currently starving.

Biden has literally ruined the lives of tens of millions of people during his time as a politician.

Here, he has a way to make up for that stupidity by feeding the Afghans. I won’t hold my breath waiting for him to do so, though. Biden has no empathy for people. It’s all an act.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Anon
December 14, 2021 4:42 am

“All it would have taken was a Security Council veto by the Soviet Union and the Korean War never would have happened.”

Why didn’t the Soviet Union veto the resolution? Instead, they walked out of the UN and allowed the resolution to pass.

Some people claim the Soviet Union was confused and thought their walkout would automatically cause a veto of the issue. But is that believable? The Russians were just too stupid? Why didn’t they just sit there and veto the issue, if that was their aim?

South Korea is glad they left.

MarkW
Reply to  jChaney
December 13, 2021 7:38 pm

Of course it is McCain that forced Russia to invade it’s neighbors and blackmail those who don’t wish to be controlled by Russia.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  MarkW
December 13, 2021 8:26 pm

You are ok on some topics. You tend to be a little one-eyed on others. The eye is also focused inward rather than outward.

bonbon
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
December 14, 2021 3:45 am

It is the von Hayek playbook. That Professor at the London School of Economics has many US followers. Even a glance at some writings (watch out – brainwashing) explains the boilerplate comments.

Rich Davis
Reply to  MarkW
December 14, 2021 5:35 pm

And he’s still at it today just exactly as much as when he was alive!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  jChaney
December 14, 2021 4:34 am

This looks like a repeat of your previous post above, so I’ll repeat my question: Who are these warhawks you are referring to, and what did they do?

December 13, 2021 6:43 pm

Once again, we have to thank the Russians for saving us from ourselves.

bonbon
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
December 14, 2021 3:50 am

Correct – the first time was during the Civil war when the Russian Navy anchored at New York and San Francisco, 1863. US Ambassador to Russia Cassius Clay negotiated a wartime alliance, with clear messages to London and Paris to keep out. This is well documented.

Rich Davis
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 5:38 pm

Muhammad Ali was ambassador to Russia? Who knew?

James H
December 13, 2021 6:45 pm

give the council a pretext to intervene in virtually any country on the planet.

And the whole purpose of the global warming scam is laid bare. The back door for the UN to supersede the sovereignty of all nations, and shift to one world government.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  James H
December 14, 2021 4:56 am

Yes, that’s where they want to go.

The Dishonest Climate Scientists who got us to this place ought to be ashamed of themselves. Look at what your climate lies have brought about.

Putin apparently doesn’t believe in those climate lies.

December 13, 2021 6:47 pm

President Putin has had it with this nonsense.

n.n
December 13, 2021 7:03 pm

Wow, [sociopolitical] climate change… with good effect.

Olen
December 13, 2021 7:04 pm

Reading through it the movie the Crazies came to mind where society was upended by the reaction of government to a deadly virus. All is needed is a crisis to assume brutal power.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
December 13, 2021 7:06 pm

Niger is a rent seeker, so I understand their sponsorship. But Ireland. I didn’t think they were bludgers.

LdB
Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
December 13, 2021 9:02 pm

Ireland has the largest debt per capita in the EU it exceeds Greece and Italy. It needs all the freebie cash it can get and probably hoping to shake some out of the climate change action tree … so motivation probably same as Niger.

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bonbon
Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
December 14, 2021 3:52 am

Green virtue signaling, with curious blue helmets. Pushing the green island thing a hill to far!

December 13, 2021 7:14 pm

Russia knows better about the climate because they have the best climate model … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OubfvWAJ4c

Dennis
Reply to  John Shewchuk
December 13, 2021 8:54 pm

I think most people agree that modelling future climate is almost impossible the longer into the future the modelling reaches?

Not long ago I read a Canadian report that of several climate models examined one from Russia was the closest in accuracy after five years.

Reply to  Dennis
December 13, 2021 9:08 pm

Agree. While Russia has the lowest statistical errors — they are still too warm. But overall — they all breed climate alarmism — and exactly what the media demands.

bonbon
Reply to  John Shewchuk
December 14, 2021 3:55 am

To the point of Putin worrying about permafrost in 2100 :
Here an advisor on frozen viruses :

https://www.rt.com/russia/543059-global-warming-release-viruses/
It looks like Russia also has its climate catastrophists.

Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 4:26 am

Agree. They also a vested interest in alarmism — all the better to scare a population into more government oversight — but it’s easier for Russia as they already have communism.

bonbon
Reply to  John Shewchuk
December 14, 2021 7:01 am

Had. As Putin said :
“Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart, whoever wants it back has no brain

Looks like the zombies at COP26 had neither heart nor brain.

Robert of Texas
December 13, 2021 7:21 pm

How is a giant economic scam a U.N. security issue?

Joe Ebeni
December 13, 2021 7:21 pm

Never expected that I would ever cheer a Russian veto!!!
Clap-Clap-Clap

Sara
December 13, 2021 7:39 pm

“Russia has vetoed a first-of-its-kind U.N. Security Council resolution casting climate change as a threat to international peace and security.” – article

This, and that ecohippie in Australia (Steve) who discovered that wind turbine farms are lethal and went into spasms over it — all this gives me a rather faint hope that eventually the reality of the hoax called “climate ‘change’ ” might just dissolve back into the expensive pit from which it all crawled.

What? I can dream, can’t I?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Sara
December 14, 2021 5:00 am

I think a few cracks are starting to appear in the Global Warming meme.

The latest forecast is for very cold weather for Europe in coming days. More cracks may appear after this.

Sara
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 5:37 am

There is hope, and I HOPE sincerely that those cracks get bigger and hit the worst offenders the hardest. (Was that mean of me? I got snowballed yesterday.)

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 10:27 am

So Tom, can we be clear about this… you think a cold snap in a part of the planet is proof there is no long term warming of the planet?

Rich Davis
Reply to  Simon
December 14, 2021 5:50 pm

No Simon, the relevant point is that the windmills and solar panels eventually are going to fail catastrophically to meet demand. Of course you knew that.

Simon
Reply to  Rich Davis
December 14, 2021 7:26 pm

But that is not what Tom said. In fact he didn’t mention wind turbines or solar panels. He talked about the global warming meme having cracks after a cold snap.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Simon
December 15, 2021 5:32 am

Well, I was indirectly referring to the windmills not working when the wind becomes becalmed from a high-pressure system that moves into the EU bringing colder temperatures with it.

So a combination of colder temperatures and becalmed windmills is what I was warning about.

I don’t know that this will be the one that breaks the camel’s back, but I think one of those is in Europe’s future if they continue putting more reliance on windmills, as they seem to be determined to do.

Simon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 15, 2021 10:47 am

We know there will be cold snaps and we know there will be warm ones. What matters is whether we have more or less of one or the other. Re the wind turbines. I think we should have a combination or power sources. All have their problems so reliance on one be it, oil, wind solar or nuclear is not sensible in my book.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Simon
December 15, 2021 5:05 pm

What is the percentage of electric power generation by nuclear fission in France? Is it still 70%? If the French achieved that with what is now 50-year old technology in about a decade, why is it not obvious that the same thing could be replicated everywhere today?

While there’s no reason to forego using hydroelectric and geothermal power where it’s installed or environmentally feasible to build, there isn’t much of an argument for why we should have any intermittent weather-dependent sources at all.

Except for timing, nothing precludes reaching 100% nuclear that will be totally reliable and also could be configured to supply process heat.

During the ramp up to that end goal, there’s only political malfeasance preventing natural gas from filling the gap.

If the real objective were to eliminate CO2 emissions allegedly threatening us with dangerous warming, nuclear with a natural gas bridge would be the only rational approach.

That this is an approach vehemently opposed is adequate evidence to me that the motivations of the activists have little or nothing to do with climate.

Shoki Kaneda
December 13, 2021 7:55 pm

I don’t like Putin, but give the man his due.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
December 14, 2021 3:49 am

He can ride a horse like John Wayne.

bonbon
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
December 14, 2021 4:30 am

LOL!
Not as tall as the Duke but sure better at martial arts….

John Endicott
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
December 14, 2021 4:26 am

Exactly. No fan of Vlad, but credit to him for doing the right thing here.

Sara
Reply to  Shoki Kaneda
December 14, 2021 5:39 am

I admire his chutzpah. I’m also aware that he is as means as a snake when he wants to be.

markl
December 13, 2021 7:55 pm

+1 for Russia on this issue. One of the things I like about Russia is they won’t allow the social justice contagion to infect their government.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  markl
December 14, 2021 3:50 am

right- they allow no intereference with the oligarchs

bonbon
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
December 14, 2021 4:28 am

The oligarchs who rushed to London, their handlers.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 5:35 am

and if they’re smart they’ll avoid a stranger approaching them with an umbrella

bonbon
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
December 14, 2021 6:53 am

Was Skripal ever found?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  markl
December 14, 2021 5:01 am

Them and France.

Dennis G Sandberg
December 13, 2021 7:56 pm

Things are amiss when Russia and China are doing the right thing while the West dithers.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Dennis G Sandberg
December 14, 2021 5:02 am

Russia and China are doing what is in their interests. It just happens to be in our interest, too.

bonbon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 6:52 am

A harmony of interests is surely more musical than the geopolitical rant cacophony pumped out 24/7 by the Great Wurlitzer. I’m tempted to say What’s Up With The Wurlitzer?

gringojay
December 13, 2021 7:59 pm

“Russia, Russia, Russia” has been like a drum beat & now Russia tells the UN:

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gringojay
Reply to  gringojay
December 13, 2021 8:01 pm

(continuation):

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Mike Lowe
December 13, 2021 8:22 pm

Well done Russia. Some sense from some politicians at last!

Terry
December 13, 2021 8:35 pm

Are the Indians and Russians the only people left with common sense?

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Terry
December 14, 2021 12:01 am

Yes.

bonbon
Reply to  Terry
December 14, 2021 3:58 am

And China. So we have slowly a Four Power movement forming out of the shambles of COVID, COP26 – if only the US got on board. We have massive problems to solve. London is not amused!

John Endicott
Reply to  Terry
December 14, 2021 4:26 am

Certainly looks that way on the issue of climate change at least.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Terry
December 14, 2021 5:05 am

No, they are just the only ones with common-sense people in charge.

John
December 13, 2021 9:33 pm

Lets arrest John Kerry as an imminent threat to world peace

Tom Abbott
Reply to  John
December 14, 2021 5:06 am

Or we could just charge Kerry with being a traitor to the United States. Every move he makes harms the United States.

PCman999
December 13, 2021 9:40 pm

Oh what a crazy, mirror universe we live in, where the leaders of Russia and China are more level headed and peace minded than the lunatics running the state-wide asylums in the “West”.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  PCman999
December 14, 2021 5:08 am

“and peace minded”

Well, I wouldn’t go that far.

bonbon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 6:49 am

The US 800 foreign military bases are for peaceful purposes – the peace of the graveyard.

Rich Davis
Reply to  bonbon
December 14, 2021 5:58 pm

Were you rote Armee Fraktion before going on the Putin payroll?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
December 15, 2021 5:37 am

A lot of people need U.S. military protection. There are a lot of bad guys out there in the world that need reining in.

Hadyn
December 13, 2021 9:43 pm

Thank heavens at least one country on the security council still retains some common sense!

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Hadyn
December 13, 2021 9:56 pm

It only needs one vote to veto on The Security Council. China was abstaining but we have a reasonable idea about Chinese thinking.

bonbon
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
December 14, 2021 4:02 am

Syria: western nations seek to bypass Russian veto at UNIdea is to refer chemical weapons issue to UN general assembly, where Russia’s security council veto would not apply

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/24/syria-western-nations-may-seek-to-bypass-russian-veto-at-un

There are tricks to get around this. I wonder if they will follow exactly this route now?

Redge
December 13, 2021 11:07 pm

The UN has Putin exactly where he wants them

Craig from Oz
December 13, 2021 11:14 pm

Ireland huh?

What bemuses me about Ireland – a country that is proud of blaming England for all it’s problems – requires the RAF to defend it’s airspace from the Russian Bear.

Russia still probes with Tu95s. Just because the Cold War ended didn’t mean the aircraft stopped.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Craig from Oz
December 14, 2021 12:02 am

Launch the Cessna!

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Craig from Oz
December 14, 2021 3:52 am

I think the Irish also put a bit of blame on the Catholic Church.

Mark
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
December 16, 2021 6:49 am

The Catholic Church in Ireland, have been a scapegoat in many ways but sexual abuse did happen and the mother and baby homes and forced slave labour of women in laundries and on farms along with these institutions forcibly taking the Women’s babies and selling them to Americans. You can see where Irish People might hold a little grudge but there are also a huge amount of People who are just Church bashers in Ireland today because they don’t believe in God or Jesus nor do they want to and want to live their material lives without a care or thought for God.

bonbon
Reply to  Craig from Oz
December 14, 2021 4:09 am

During the Cold War, London had fits about Shannon Airport – it could land Soviet bombers they claimed, and Soviet subs could launch missiles in a western blindspot to London.

Meanwhile Shannon Airport was used for US rendition to black torture sites (Poland and Romania?). US crews were openly in fatigues at the cantines. For sure Kerry knows this and someone had to sign off on such blatant abuse. And after all Barry O’Bama is more Irish than Kerry.

Mark
Reply to  Craig from Oz
December 15, 2021 6:50 am

Well in Fairness the British stood by during the Potatoes famine and allowed 1 million Irish People die of starvation while they shipped any food we had abroad to their colonies and among other atrocities over nearly 1000 years like kicking people off their land and making them pay rent to British landlords and charging them more money for light tax if they had larger windows. Don’t get me started on the black and tan scum bags the British unleashed on Ireland. But imagine having to defend Irish Air space ? oh how terrible.

Ed Zuiderwijk
December 14, 2021 12:47 am

Vladimir just knows this climate change thingy is nonsense. How does he know? Because his Russian Academy tells him so. And those scientists are quite a bit more knowledgeable than the clowns writing the UN reports.

Matthew Sykes
December 14, 2021 12:48 am

Can I move to Russia? I am getting sick of the west, it is a shit hole.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
December 14, 2021 1:01 am

You have to demonstrate a flat foot squat before they consider you for a visa.

Kevin Hilde
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
December 14, 2021 2:49 am

I’ve posted these before, but I guess most people missed it. These three videos were created to be a take-down of various notions among American conservatives concerning Putin and his “conservative” influence on Russia.

Cultural Enrichment

Living in Russia

Societal Degeneracy

Pretty sure when you really understand the living conditions in Russia, you’ll change your tune.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Kevin Hilde
December 14, 2021 5:13 am

So you think American conservatives have a soft spot in their hearts for Putin?

I’m an American conservative and I don’t have a soft spot for Putin. I look at reality.

Kevin Hilde
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 16, 2021 3:14 am

American conservatives that have a deep understanding of the underlying principles of Locke and Jefferson and the rest of the country’s founders, or who understand the economics of the Austrian or Chicago schools, no, definitely not.

Conservatives that have traveled widely and outside the typical tourist lanes, and/or have genuine interaction in other countries sufficient to gain a sense of the mindset of those places, no, not them either.

But most conservatives are going primarily on instinct and have a shallow understanding of the principles. (Not as shallow as the left, but shallow none the less.) A lot of them see in Putin a man who stands with his head high, speaks with a firm voice and doesn’t bow to pressure. When they saw Obama bowing before Arab leaders, telling Putin he’d have more room to work after the election while appearing to cow to Xi, it made a big impression. When Romney wouldn’t put up a decent debate against Obama for fear of the left accusing him of racism, they noticed. Many American conservatives correctly identified a large swath of their leaders as weak.

Lots of working class conservatives admired Putin for his strength, if for nothing else, and talked favorably about him. I know, 𝗜 𝗵𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗱 𝗺𝗮𝗻𝘆 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺. I tried to explain what was really going on, but again, they didn’t have the philosophical grounding to understand the points I was making, nor had most of them ever traveled enough to understand the differences between the US and other countries. Some of them still see Putin in a favorable light to this day.

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bonbon
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
December 14, 2021 4:10 am

Give Ed. Snowden a call.

Vuk
Reply to  Matthew Sykes
December 14, 2021 4:59 am

Why not try the Ukraine first, just for a while to acclimatise first, and with a bit of luck you want’t need to go to Russia, Russia will come to you.

John R.
December 14, 2021 1:25 am

Spasiva Vlad.

Vuk
Reply to  John R.
December 14, 2021 1:52 am

After USSR fell apart Vlad the Terrible was for a while (between jobs) earning living as a taxi driver, hence as such has to be credited with at least a bit common sense in his thinking.
If in any doubt you ask any London or New York cabby driver, or better don’t, they hardly can speak any English these days.

Vuk
Reply to  Vuk
December 14, 2021 2:03 am

While I was writing this I was listening to the UK’s parliament Science & Technology committee questioning scientist Dr Kate Bingham, the author of the UK’s successful vaccination drive, calling all previous virus variants the Wuhan strain at least twice.
Good for her and good to hear an honest scientist.
Let’s follow her lead and revive term Wuhan virus.

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Vuk
Reply to  Vuk
December 14, 2021 2:59 am

Another eminent scientist, professor Xihong Lin also testifying to the S & T committee, referred to Wuhan strain too.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Vuk
December 14, 2021 5:16 am

That’s what it is: The Wuhan virus. The only people who refuse to use its proper name are Chinese dictators and American Leftwing Democrats.

bonbon
Reply to  Vuk
December 14, 2021 8:10 am

That came first from MI6’s chief Dearlove :
Telegraph on June 3, 2020: “I do not think that this [pandemic] started as an accident…. It raises the issue, if China ever were to admit responsibility, does it pay reparations? I think it will make every country in the world rethink how it treats its relationship with China.”
Sky News on July 12, 2020, “I subscribe to the theory … that it’s an engineered escapee from the Wuhan Institute (of Virology).”

This is the very same Dearlove of Russiagate infamy. Dodgy dossiers are par for the course – forgotten Blair’s Iraq WMD hoax already?

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bonbon
Reply to  Vuk
December 14, 2021 4:13 am

At that taxi chat, he wittingly said first thing he cleaned the Kremlin of CIA agents.
Not surprising as he was DDR KGB, speaks fluent German.
The Neo-cons that destroyed Russia under Yeltsin took a real beating.

John Endicott
Reply to  Vuk
December 14, 2021 4:33 am

If in any doubt you ask any London or New York cabby driver, “

That brought to mind a song from the 90’s (Shiny Black Taxi cab by Shampoo) where a Cab Driver speaks at the end:

“D’you Know I Had Them Girls In
The Back Of The Cab The Other Week
Sick All Over The Back Seat
I Had To Charge ‘Em Double
They Ought’a Bring Back The Birch
You Know, Bring Back National Service
Bring Back Hanging! Hanging?
Hanging’s To Good For ‘Em
I’m Not Prejudice Or Anything
You Know. These Mini-Cab Drivers…
They’ve Got No Tags, No Insurance
Some Of ‘Em Don’t Even Have A Bleedin’ Car!
Anyway John, Where Yer Wanna Go Then…”

Anthony Banton
December 14, 2021 2:01 am

Do turkeys vote for Xmas?

Of course Putin Vetoed UN Security Council Climate Resolution
Russia is a petrochemical state.
It is ALL it has got with which to push it’s agenda on the world.
There is ZERO that it makes to export to the world in order for Putin to make his (much personally) Roubles and maintain the illusion to it’s citizens that it has power.
And, being a xenophobic and paranoic country – keep him in power.

Vuk
Reply to  Anthony Banton
December 14, 2021 5:14 am

Russians are not xenophobic, they love other peoples and even more so their countries. The old Soviet Union that Putin craves so much had beside Russians also Ukrainiens, Byelorussens, Moldaviens, Azerbaijanes,
 Georgians, Armenians, Uzbekes, Kazakhs, Tajikis, Kirghiz, Turkmens, Lithuaniens, Latvians, Estons, Abkhaz, Adyghes, Aleuts, Assyrians, Avars, Bashkirs, Bulgarians, Buryats, Chechens, Chinese, Chuvash, Cossacks, Tatars, Evenks, Finns, Gagauz, Germans, Greeks, Hungarians, Ingushes, Inuit, Jews, Kalmyks, Karakalpaks, Karelians, Kets, Koreans, Lezgins, Maris, Mongols, Mordvins, Nenetses, Ossetians, Poles, Roma, Romanians, Tats, Tatars, Tuvans, Udmurts, Yakuts and dozens of these other ethnic groups 

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Anthony Banton
December 14, 2021 5:18 am

I agree with you, Anthony. Putin is the last person on Earth who would want UN Climate Change Inspectors on his property.

bonbon
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 14, 2021 6:45 am

Here’s an idea – if the UN wants climate security, why not hire all those chimney sweeps and exhaust checkers? The would only need a few weeks boot camp – fire, smoke, CO2 they already know.
Hey, it’s an army in waiting! And to top it off, it is inspections by the people, of the people, for all the people’s fires.
I had one inspect my log burner the other day, no blue helmet in sight. But that was before the Russian Veto.
Anyway see what happened to the last Russian Veto – they will wiggle around it.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  bonbon
December 15, 2021 5:43 am

The UN may be waiting to see if Biden’s “Build Back Better” boondoogle passes Congress.

If it does, the UN will borrow AOC’s 300,000 Climate Change Brownshirts, who will be hired under the new budget law, and the UN can use them to harrass non-complying nations into obedience. Although they might have some difficulty getting into Russia and China. But no problem, they have lots of Western nations they can harrass, so there will be plenty of work for them.

Peter buchan
Reply to  Anthony Banton
December 14, 2021 7:42 am

Wrong Mr Banton – Oil now represents less than 35% of Russian GDP and – thanks to sanctions – it has become a major food exporter (world’s largest exporter of wheat), has the lowest sovereign debt, highest gold reserves as % of GDP and most importantly, has the highest level of autarky in the developed world. All happened under Putin. Read more. .

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Peter buchan
December 14, 2021 9:04 am

I think maybe you overlook a lot.

John Endicott
Reply to  Peter buchan
December 16, 2021 11:00 am

 (world’s largest exporter of wheat)”

Capt. Kirk: Does everybody know about this wheat but me?
Chekov: Oh, not everyone, Captain. It’s a Russian invention.

Cherith
December 14, 2021 2:20 am

Pity about the Russophobia! Spoils every article it contains.

bonbon
Reply to  Cherith
December 14, 2021 4:17 am

Almost every WUWT thread is poisoned with russophobia. Then along comes Russia and speaks sense on climate. What is a poor russophobe troll to do?
And that is not as bad as Sinophobia – another Phobe Virus strain infecting WUWT.

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Cherith
December 14, 2021 5:19 am

Yes, it’s a shame we can’t get along better with Russia. The people want it, but the rulers do not.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Cherith
December 14, 2021 12:14 pm
Tom Abbott
Reply to  ResourceGuy
December 15, 2021 5:45 am

Why not? Everyone else is.

How many people are desperately trying to break into Russia and China?

Rod Evans
December 14, 2021 5:23 am

Clearly, no where is off limits for the Climate alarmist movement.
Well done India Russia and China though China chickened out of stating their actual objection.

Mark
December 14, 2021 5:35 am

Although the bill was officially sponsored by Ireland”

Ireland will do whatever fits the narrative or makes Ireland shine as a perfect little Island that will do good no matter the consequences, that’s irrelevant, as long as Ireland is seen in a positive light, they crave to be loved. I know, I’m Irish and I live in Ireland but it sickens me to see what is happening here. Irish People are heavily brainwashed by Government controlled media, and all TV and Radio is controlled by the BAI which are the Government, they regulate ( control ) the TV Radio stations, we also have a very heavily biased media in favour of US Democrats, and Biden and will not say anything bad about Biden, yet Mr Trump was never out of the Irish media a single day he was in office and every single thing about Trump in the media was anti trump.

Ireland has no backbone to do what’s right especially by it’s own People, Image is priority and will do what they’re told, look at the bank bailout for example. Decades of hardships for an issue not caused by the people yet the Government sold them out to the IMF and bondholders while their taxes sky rocketed and we’re told to be thankful!

Now we have ever increasing carbon taxes which the government refused to reduce as fuel costs rocket and when the high fuel costs, Carbon tax and VAT were challenged in parliament the Irish Prime Minister or Taoiseach had the audacity to blame the E.U for not allowing reduced VAT on Energy and in relation to Carbon tax said “we all have to do our bit to save the earth” so while he gets to be chauffeured around in his taxpayer Diesel and take the Government Jet ordinary people struggle to keep the lights and heat on and sometimes have to choose between the two or both, there’s an ever increasing amount of People having to install pay-as-you go meters to stop bills mounting and when they don’t have the money the bills are not mounting up and the heat or lights or both go off. The Irish Government are despicable.

Create world crisis, Climate change, COVID to blind us from real issues such as the UN take over.

bonbon
Reply to  Mark
December 14, 2021 6:32 am

Cripes, sounds just like the UK!
And there was I thinking there was a border….
Even Brussels fiddles around with a border….

Since they are being a CA clone, warn them about this :
California Looks To Stab Rooftop Solar Customers In The Back With Massive Incentive Rollback, New Fees
https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/california-looks-stab-rooftop-solar-customers-back-massive-incentive-rollback

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Mark
Reply to  bonbon
December 15, 2021 7:47 am

British Government, Irish Government, they’re all the same, all bought and paid for and will do what they’re told by the UN, corrupt to the core.

Look what our police force want to do in Ireland

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40762074.html

Imagine, giving a position of Police commissioner to someone who’s father was killed by the IRA free rain to terrorise the Irish People with these new found powers if the bill is passed ? And pass all this while there’s hardly a word about it in the media because it’s all dominated by COVID and climate change nonsense. Power to come after anyone who opposes the Government lockdowns or covid passes , without Judicial review or the right to a solicitor?

But getting back to Solar PV incentives, the Irish Government already rolled back some years ago but intend to offer them again per Kwh sent to the grid but probably offer very little, currently anyone dumb enough has to give excess energy sent to the grid in Ireland for free.

In Ireland the Government want people taking out loans and paying 12% interest to retrofit heat pumps and insulation costing many thousands or tens of thousands of Euros more expensive for retrofits, that would fill my tank with oil for many years! They can go whistle.

Alasdair Fairbairn
December 14, 2021 5:58 am

Well done Russia. The leftwing/marxist UN and its acolytes such as the IPCC is already far far too big for its boots and needs rigorous curtailment.

ResourceGuy
December 14, 2021 6:18 am

We’re just lucky there aren’t worse things going on right now like a pandemic with millions dead, clean water shortages, unsustainable sovereign debt increases, and junk science driving all political decisions and institutions. We would probably not recognize the next real crisis about to hit us with all eyes on the wrong issues.

Nick Haag
December 14, 2021 8:30 am

Not often I’ll ever say this but thank goodness for Putin.

ResourceGuy
December 14, 2021 8:49 am

He could be the next leader of Europe.

ResourceGuy
December 14, 2021 9:08 am

This needs to be followed up with weekly climate scare science critiques by the Kremlin and all of its agencies in succession, much like the Obama parading of agencies with weekly climate press releases.

Steve Z
December 14, 2021 11:37 am

The first time I’ve ever agreed with Putin. He’s not stupid, he’s got lot$ of oil and ga$ he wants to $ell.

China’s abstention is really telling. They obviously won’t vote for something that would shut down all their coal-fired power plants, but they wanted to “save face” by not vetoing it, so they could claim that they’re not against limiting CO2 emissions, just not in THEIR backyard.
And, of course, they want to $ell lot$ of $olar panels using rare-earth elements only found in China.

Russia and China are following the science, while the brain drain continues in the West.

John
December 14, 2021 11:24 pm

thanks for this

when I read Red Notice it sounded so fantastic that I thought I was reading Ian Flemmings James Bond

Having watched the video mentioned I now know that Browder was indeed telling a lie and that he was the guilty banker that stole the 230MMUSD but need a scape goat

alway the same true to the nationality group of financiers who created america – history repeats

Jason
December 15, 2021 3:29 am

When Russia and China are leading the way on protecting our freedoms and liberties in the UN, we are in big trouble…

ResourceGuy
December 15, 2021 8:15 am

Prisoner human as Reacher would say.

goracle
December 15, 2021 7:37 pm

Gotta call a spade a spade…. kudos to Russia foe torpedoing that climate ship. Unfortunately, the inmates are running the asylum here in USA.

Quilter 52
December 16, 2021 6:53 pm

Occasionally I develop a soft spot for our Vlad. It doesn’t usually last more than 5 minutes but that veto in the UN was one of those occasions.