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Climate Council: La Niña Boosted Rainfall for Australia is Bad

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

As the La Niña warmed Western Pacific Ocean surface delivers much needed rainfall to Australia’s arid regions, the Climate Council urges everyone to remember that warmer temperatures are bad.


La Niña is set to shape Australia’s summer 2021-22 with above-average rainfall forecast for eastern parts of the continent; elevating flood risks. Most of Australia, except in parts of the southeast, should expect above average maximum summer temperatures.

This explainer distils the latest advice from the Bureau of Meteorology on what to expect this summer. It takes stock of extreme weather risks, takes a close look at the impact of La Niña – the dominant climate driver affecting our weather now – and puts it all in the context of our changing climate.

The odds are stacked (1.5 to 3 times more likely) in favour of some unusually high maximum temperatures for most of the country away from the southeast. Below average daytime temperatures are likely for eastern NSW.

What extreme weather risks are we looking at this summer?

The Bureau of Meteorology’s Summer Outlook 2021-22 shows it is likely to be wetter than average for eastern parts of the continent, with higher risk of heavy rainfall and widespread flooding for these areas.

When it comes to cyclones, during La Niña years there are typically more cyclones in the Australian region than during non-La Niña years. During the 2010-12 La Niña there were several notable cyclones, including Cyclone Yasi – one of the strongest and costliest in Australia’s history. Every year in which there have been more than one severe landfalling tropical cyclone in Queensland was a La Niña year. The Bureau of Meteorology has predicted an average to slightly-above-average number of cyclones for the 2021-22 season.

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If slight La Niña warming can bring all this desperately needed rainfall to Australia, imagine if there was a permanent warming of the entire Pacific Ocean surface. Imagine if Australia, California, Arizona, Western Mexico, the Atacama Desert, and all the other arid regions bordering the Pacific ocean had a wetter climate all the time, instead of just when a visiting La Niña or El Niño temporarily boosts local sea surface temperatures.

The entire Pacific Rim would be a garden, with former deserts filled with wildflowers and trees, and lush farms filled with prosperity.

But nothing like this is likely to happen in my lifetime, sadly.

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November 30, 2021 10:12 pm

I had the wonderful experience of driving to Western Australia twice to tour around admiring the wildflowers and the other benefits of high rainfall.

There is considerable additional farming potential in Australia that just requires more water, and storage of water. The CSIRO has identified potential irrigation farm land approximately the area of Western Europe across Northern Australia from the existing Ord River Irrigation Area of Western Australia through the Northern Territory into North Queensland. A combination of “wet season” rainfall harvested into new dams on the “wild rivers” as they have been called for UN heritage registration banning development, since overturned by The Australian Federal Government and a then new Queensland State Government, and now awaiting planning approval and finance.

An Australian Aborigine told me that the apparently dry rivers and creeks in Central Australia flow upside down, meaning that if a person digs into the dry river bed water can be located.

At this time the mostly completely dry Todd River that flows through Alice Springs in the NT is flooded after heavy rains.

Climate Council members must spend too much time drinking coffee in inner city cafes and believe that food comes from supermarkets.

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Reply to  Dennis
December 1, 2021 12:25 am

Australia should be spending billions on water security for arid regions not paying billions for useless wind generators.

Reply to  RickWill
December 1, 2021 4:36 am

Australia should probably be spending a little less on ‘voluntary’ quarantine camps, where the ‘volunteers’ that were rounded up by the military don’t seem to want to be. They had to scale the fences around their ‘voluntary’ camp and will be fined and charged criminally for ‘voluntarily’ leaving.

If they spent less on the ‘voluntary’ camps, there’d be more dosh for water storage and irrigation projects.

Reply to  H.R.
December 1, 2021 5:35 pm

Howard Springs NT is the only quarantine facility there and was established at an abandoned mining camp during 2020.

Australian Defence Forces personnel have been assisting with security and administration and providing medical personnel where needed. Recently ADF medical teams travelled to remote indigenous communities to vaccinate people against the virus and a small number identified carrying the virus were taken to the quarantine station for their own and general community protection. Community leaders have welcomed the ADF and Police deployed.

ADF personnel assisting with quarantine security in selected hotels or home quarantine are not armed.

During emergencies the ADF are often deployed when requested by State or Territory Governments, bushfires, floods and cyclone damaged areas for example.

Reply to  Dennis
December 2, 2021 4:22 pm

Did those taken away have a choice, or was it like the indigenous kids who were taken away from their families ‘for their own good’ in Canada? Major lawsuits and public apologies to come for the Australian government of one or two decades from now, once the wokeness passes.

john harmsworth
Reply to  H.R.
December 2, 2021 10:45 am

I thought the whole place was one big prison camp.

Reply to  RickWill
December 2, 2021 4:18 pm

That requires politicians who are sensible, intelligent, and who genuinely care about the constituents, instead of the corrupt bunch of brainwashed narcissists that currently run much of the world.

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  Dennis
December 1, 2021 7:42 pm

G’Day Dennis,

“… Todd River that flows through Alice Springs in the NT is flooded after heavy rains.”

Isn’t that the river where a would-be fisherman is told, “You can tell when a school of fish are coming upriver by the cloud of dust they raise.”?

Reply to  Dennis
December 2, 2021 4:15 pm

Just pretend the needed dams are needed for pumped storage, necessary to make the eco-darling wind turbines and solar panels successful. Keep drumming that beat and even environmental assessments get waived.

November 30, 2021 10:13 pm

“The entire Pacific Rim would be a garden, with former deserts filled with wildflowers and trees, and lush farms filled with prosperity”. – With fairies at the bottom.

Geoff Sherrington
Reply to  lee
December 1, 2021 2:55 am

I spent a lifetime doing hard science properly and rejecting failed hypotheses like global warming. There are Ferraris at the bottom of my garden. Geoff S

November 30, 2021 10:18 pm

El Nino couldn’t be reached for comment.

Reply to  gringojay
December 1, 2021 8:16 am

And Australias eternal permanent drought has somehowdisappeared too.

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November 30, 2021 10:19 pm

Since the Climate Council is so enthralled with predictions, I wonder if this one has them trembling –

Those the gods would destroy, they first send mad.

Psych researchers have a lot of material to work with at the Climate Council, I venture.

another ian
Reply to  Mr.
December 1, 2021 12:10 am

I first read it a long time ago as

Those the gods would destroy, they first make confident.”

Not a lot of difference most of the time I guess

Reply to  Mr.
December 1, 2021 12:21 am

Tim Flannery (that well-known environmental guru) predicted some years back: “The dams in Eastern Australia will never be full again because the soil would be too dry to allow river flow”. The Climate Council, of course, will never inform us of crap predictions made by their fellow Greenies.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  John Karajas
December 1, 2021 4:07 am

“The dams in Eastern Australia will never be full again because the soil would be too dry to allow river flow.”

What!?! This guy is a nutter if he believes that soil can become so dry that it will not allow river flow. What does he think water is anyway, something that can get stuck if the soil is too dry? Flash flooding in desert country certainly puts the lie to this stupid notion and everyone reading it should immediately tumbled to that fact.

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
December 1, 2021 4:57 am

Pamela, it is particularly interesting that people living in the Middle East 3500 years ago knew to dig cisterns to store winter rainfall for the dry summers. Perhaps someone who knows the geology of Australia can explain if this would be possible there or is it simply a matter of too much hard work?

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
December 1, 2021 1:17 pm

There are cisterns all over the Carribean because fresh water is generally is short supply on many of the islands, especially the smaller ones. The idea is to catch rainwater as if falls off the roof and try to save as much as possible. It is not necessary to bury them underground either although that can save space in small yards. It is probably just as easy to use cisterns to save rainwater in Australia as it is in other areas and it is probably a very good idea. I used to collect rainwater in rain barrels in Virginia, which is not even close to a desert in summer.

john harmsworth
Reply to  Drake
December 2, 2021 10:48 am

Good to know. It can be hard to tell them from our most brilliant and educated folk these days.

Reply to  Mr.
December 1, 2021 4:31 pm

Climate Council is a mob of sacked and disgruntled government greentard employees which nobody takes seriously.

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November 30, 2021 10:24 pm

With an annual average rainfall of 419 mm (16 in), if ever there was something that Australia desperately needed, it was rain. The “Climate Council” must be composed entirely of dedicated and uneducated Eco-Loons.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
December 1, 2021 4:54 am

That’s precisely the kind of person who’d want to be on such a body. And no doubt only persons of that type would be invited to be on it.

Reply to  DaveS
December 1, 2021 6:10 am

Who was it said –
“it’s all about the benjamins”?

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
December 1, 2021 6:52 am

According to the alarmists, if global warming changes that to 420mm/yr, y’alls gonna drown.

November 30, 2021 10:32 pm

Yet doomsayers like Tim Flannery were telling us the dams would never fill again and cost Australian tax payers a fortune for a desalination plant that is now mothballed.

Reply to  aussiecol
November 30, 2021 11:00 pm

Melbourne’s desalination plant is running flat out at the moment.
There is a complex contractual arrangement.
The government has purchased the maximum daily output for a full year, even though La Nina was projected.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  waza
November 30, 2021 11:11 pm

I noticed that, unfortunately our pathetic media is letting the government get away with this one. I believe the cost of the water is in the 100’s of millions and it is over $500m a year even if no water is ordered. Most years we have not needed it but our stupid labor government orders it because they are desperate to justify their decision to build this dinosaur sized lemon in the first place.

Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
December 1, 2021 3:49 am

yeah well we have Xi Dan running the state into the ground so not surprising really

Abolition Man
Reply to  ozspeaksup
December 1, 2021 5:55 am

Xi Dan? Is that a bit like Bai Den, only with an Aussie accent; and without the poopie pants and dementia!?
C’mon, Australia, don’t fall for any more of this Marxist agitprop!

Geoff Sherrington
Reply to  waza
December 1, 2021 3:00 am

News item:
Wednesday 1 December 2021 Melbourne’s water storage levels are the highest they’ve been for 20 years and they’re forecast to remain secure for the next 12 months with help from the Victorian Desalination Plant, according to Melbourne’s Water Outlook 2022. The city’s water storages are 90% full.”
Where is the logic in filling dams that would fill to high levels naturally? What will happen when the dams are so full, that like Sydney’s Warragamba Dam, water is being release so hard that downstream areas risk flooding? Will the Melbourne desal plant keep running while dams are overflowing?
This climate change business is so, so full of logical absurdities. Geoff S

Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
December 1, 2021 3:46 am

The government is now committed to buying water from the desal plant.
The majority of Melbourne dams are essentially full.
A lot of water is being shuffled around the system
1.The desal plant water is going to Cardinia reservoir ( 3rd biggest ).
2. The upper Yarra reservoir ( 2nd biggest)has been hovering around 90% for months because the remaining 10% is needed for flood protection. I think Any natural run off into upper Yarra is just being released downstream.
3. I think it is fair to say for every litre from the desal plant that goes to cardinia a litre is released from upper Yarra.

WRT to possible flooding, every farm dam in the Yarra Valley is full. If a rare storm event hits. The 10% buffer in upper Yarra won’t be enough.

Reply to  Waza
December 1, 2021 12:48 pm

Well, then, if it does rain, then there will be lots of floods, which will be consistent with all the climate change projections of excess drought, flood, heat, cold, windy, still wind,. [sarc]

Reply to  Waza
December 2, 2021 4:30 pm

Time to build a water pipeline to Alice Springs, say? It can be powered by wind turbines and solar panels to make the green-shirts happy.

Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
December 1, 2021 5:51 am

La Ninas of course are temporary short term phenomena, so in a naturally arid place like much of Australia, it is better to have excess water making capacity on hand even during wet periods. The excess water can always be made use of.

Here in the United States in the arid west, the number of acres of irrigated crop land and pasture land varies from year to year based upon the availability of irrigation water, which mostly depends upon winter snowfall in the mountains rather than warm season rains. Huge variability year to year. It’s just part of the standard operation of ag in the western US. Any excess water gets used beneficially, and then when it’s not available, ditches get shut down and less senior water rights are not served.

Reply to  waza
December 1, 2021 3:49 am

so where is the water going? our town relies on finding semi potable water by bore and we cant GET any pipeline water, trying for years

Otway dreamer
Reply to  aussiecol
December 3, 2021 1:02 pm

Just a measly 10 or so billion, and annually 10s of millions to maintain and stop from rusting….thanks Tim you woke lunatic. Australian of the year award should be stripped off him and then used as a woke award to the dumbest of the stupid city dwelling know it alls that control this country

November 30, 2021 10:36 pm

I don’t agree with..
“This explainer distils the latest advice from the Bureau of Meteorology on what to expect this summer. It takes stock of extreme weather risks, takes a close look at the impact of La Niña – the dominant climate driver affecting our weather now – and puts it all in the context of our changing climate.”

AFAIK ENSO is not a climate driver but more of a weather modulator.

Additionally, in South Eastern Australia (as opposed to Western or Northern Australia) there are several weather phenomena that impact our weather.
The main one being how the Hadley Cell impacts the Sub Tropical Ridge (STR) – No evidence of strong STR as predicted by Alarmists.

Reply to  climanrecon
December 1, 2021 3:51 am

well the dog from the sth is STILL pushing currents UP and the s west is missing out again(since 2017)

Abolition Man
Reply to  waza
December 1, 2021 6:04 am

Climate alarmism is to climatology what Lysenkoism was to genetics!
The alarmists of GangGreen will never acknowledge a fact that is not in agreement with their deeply held religious beliefs that economic freedom (capitalism) is the worst system ever devised by humanity; and thus is solely responsible for ALL human production of CO2! Socialism and communism do not produce any of the Dread Gas of Doom!
In fact, in Australia it’s TWICE as bad as every place else; except for the US where it is thrice!

November 30, 2021 10:41 pm

So the warm deep pool of water on the west side of the Pacific is a bad sign? Just wait for the doom laden headlines when the cycle reverses and that warm deep pool is spread over the Pacific and causes a detectable spike in global temperatures!

Reply to  Dnalor50
December 1, 2021 5:53 am

Of course, it’s the same old, same old grifter’s scam, otherwise known as “Heads I win, tails you lose”. Only idiots fall for it.

Barry James
November 30, 2021 10:42 pm

Only to be expected from a site run by Flannery. La Nina is NOT a climate driver as he claims. It does influence the weather though, so Australia can look forward to more rainfall than usual which is always a good thing.

Reply to  Barry James
December 1, 2021 5:54 am

ENSO is cyclical weather, not climate.

November 30, 2021 10:55 pm

Comes at a time when we have just had the coldest and wettest November ever recorded in Eastern Australia since records began!

This might be under a paywall so here is the article

Australia records its wettest November with more rain to come$width_72%2C$height_72/t_crop_fill/q_86%2Cf_auto/b6a5d6808cf61fa6d708ae760d3141ef381c8f7a
By Laura ChungDecember 1, 2021 — 4.32pm

[snip . . . you should not clip and paste entire articles in your comments for reasons of copyright infringement and possible legal exposure against our host and this website. Sorry. . . mod]

November 30, 2021 10:55 pm

1996 was the last time Melbourne’s dams were full.
Melbourne had a population of 3.3m
Melbourne’s population is now 5m
Our dams our now 90% full and rising.
2020 and now 2021 having significantly higher than average rainfall

Additionally, we now have a desalination plant powered by fossil fuel.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  waza
November 30, 2021 11:14 pm

and the Victorian government is very deeply in debt with massive future commitments as they have to repay covid borrowing and pay for the infrastructure catch-up necessary because of their population ponzi scheme.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
November 30, 2021 11:31 pm

It would seem that apart from unpredictable weather, Australia’s most serious problem has been more than two decades of incompetent government led buy obvious fools.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
December 1, 2021 12:34 am

The problem is much the same as the USA. The Federal Government is based in an isolated city separated from reality. It is in the business of government and the only output is cow manure. They are a huge drain on the resources of Australia – Just like Washington DC.

The inappropriately named “public service” just follows its own woke agenda irrespective of the elected mob.

USA has the benefit if the fixed presidential term and separate voting for the Presidential candidate. Each new President has their own administration but the deep State tends to cancel that out.

Reply to  RickWill
December 2, 2021 4:37 pm

“It is in the business of government and the only output is cow manure.”

Awesome, just awesome.

Reply to  waza
December 1, 2021 6:18 am

And a $1 billion pipeline from the Golburn River since 2011 THAT HAS NEVER BEEN REQUIRED.

Doug Danhoff
November 30, 2021 11:12 pm

What a miserable life this meteorologist must live. . Even the much needed rain is somehow a threat. . If you dwell on the possible human causation of all bad things …this is where you could end up .

YallaYPoora Kid
Reply to  Doug Danhoff
December 1, 2021 4:47 am

Even worse when their predictions are worthless. Their 7 day forecast is regularly the opposite of what they first predict for the 7th day.
It can be simple to track that day as it travels from the 7th day until today – it is hilariously wrong.
The BOM used to predict rainfall to an actual whole number but now it is given within a range eg from 4 to 15 mm. Accuracy and confidence at an all time low. No problem with homogenisation of temperatures over 100s of kilometres though!

December 1, 2021 12:22 am

When will knowledge prevail over belief and fairy tales? One big fairy tale about a trace gas causing a super heated planet and tipping points that will wipe out mankind has mesmerised a good proportion the human population.

How can people who actually understand physics get into a meaningful debate on the idiocy of CO2 induced climate change.

Whenever Australia’s east coast gets flooding rain I am reminded of the idiocy of Tim Flannery. If you can bear to listen to this incompetent imbecile, take a note of what he stated in 2007:
This fool only deserves to be castigated. Bear in mind he owns property on a coastal river about 6m above sea level. The Prime Minister, who implemented his beloved carbon tax, now lives on an ocean property about 3m above sea level. Those facts, combined with the commentary in the video, display their lunacy.

I wonder the elevation of James Hansen’s abode?

Abolition Man
Reply to  RickWill
December 1, 2021 6:23 am

Fairy tales? I’d say we’re dealing more with horror stories these days, the monsters and ghouls are our selected leaders!
It’s bad enough that Barry Hussein Obama bought a coastal mansion in Martha’s Vineyard, but Bill Gates and ManBearPig, both huge CAGW proponents, have coastal properties as well! And now Nanzi Pelousy is fleeing the chaos state of Commifornia, that she helped create, to the sunny coasts of Florida! It shows extremely high confidence in your political party, when your leadership runs away from their base to dwell in the land of the opposition!
That’s the problem with repackaging Marxism under newer, fancier names; the idiots and drones might fall for it, but people at the top know it’s a lie that will NEVER work!

Reply to  Abolition Man
December 1, 2021 6:34 pm

I live in Florida an I resent Nanny Piglosi moving into my state.
She needs to stay in that shithole state she helped to eff up. It’s pretty
telling when these azzole commies can’t stand to live in the garbage dump
they created an move to somewhere that is still half way sane.

Peta of Newark
December 1, 2021 12:37 am

Lets fix this one:
Quote:”The odds are stacked (1.5 to 3 times more likely) in favour of some unusually high maximum temperatures for most of the country away from the south-east. – because you grow wheat, operate tillage machines and graze sheep

Yes ‘away from the South-east’ – because the south east is green, it has plants and trees and thus, organic material in the soil and thus water in the soil.

Water controls weather
Dreamers <insert others ‘to taste’> control climate
See attached pic.

Quote:”The entire Pacific Rim would be a garden, with former deserts filled with wildflowers and trees, and lush farms filled with prosperity.”

Contrary to ‘Primary School Education’ and thinking, it takes just a little bit more than water to enable plants to grow.
There are 52 things, as seen on the Periodic Table, that determine if what will happen when water or CO2 is added to any desert. Presence or absence of any one more or comibnation thereof determines thus.
(How many times have I said that round here. sadly)

Quote:”But nothing like this is likely to happen in my lifetime, sadly.”

Yes it will ## and it could start tomorrow.
Take your mining and quarrying tackle across to the left hand side of the attached picture, dig and grind up any black coloured rock you find there, (there’s tonnnnnnns of it, can’t miss) then take it to your desert.
Because that black rock contains those 52 things

## It will, because otherwise there will be nothing but 7.5 million square kilometres of wind-blown sand there inside 200 years.

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Reply to  Peta of Newark
December 1, 2021 9:59 am

You’ve got it completely backwards. Laughably backwards. Fertilizing the desert won’t cause plants to grow. Why? Because plants need water and the reason that deserts don’t have water is because moisture laden air masses from the ocean don’t make it there because of topography, distance, and prevailing winds.

I used to live in Las Vegas, the desert. When I planted trees they grew very well but only because I watered them. Take a float trip down the Colorado River and you’ll see plenty of trees growing in the desert alongside the river. Same for the Rio Grande. No ground-up black rock necessary. You could have spent 2 minutes to do a search on trees growing in a desert oasis to avoid beclowning yourself once again, but you didn’t.

Seriously, Peta, you have an unhealthy fixation on soil. Seek mental health care.

Reply to  meab
December 2, 2021 4:45 pm

Hey, you’re been way too hard on her, she didn’t imply the plants didn’t need water. And you could probably dig up ‘black rocks’ and burn them efficiently to pump all the water needed from the east where it’s just being a nuisance. Mankind has been doing farming, fertilization and irrigation since forever, why has humanity gone brain-dead just because socialists have taken over.

December 1, 2021 1:08 am

The point is the rain is arriving in massive extreme rain events, causing floods.

Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 2:29 am

La Niña is set to shape Australia’s summer 2021-22″

That’s to come, griff

How did you arrive at the present tenserain is arriving in massive extreme rain events, causing floods.???

Even the bombastic BOM saysBOM severe weather outlook for 2021-22 suggests floods …”

Did you model it?

Rich Davis
Reply to  fretslider
December 1, 2021 4:41 am

No, no, the griffter no doubt refers to the rain in Germany that led to flooding of similar magnitude as has occurred dozens of times in the past millennium, or the similarly common flooding in British Columbia.

His vital point is “We need world communism now to eliminate all this weather!”

Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 2:39 am

Not sure how many times this needs to be said, but if you look at the Australian govt (BOM) annual rainfall records for the last 125 years, there is NO trend. Repeat, NO TREND.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Graeme4
December 1, 2021 4:53 am

Silly goose! Trends are measured from a low point to a high point if we’re discussing temperature, or a high to a low if we’re talking about ice. Rainfall is trickier. If there are currently pictures of flooding to hype, then you look for the longest period that shows increasing rainfall (even if that is as short as 5 years). If there is drought or fires that you can exploit, then find the longest period where rainfall is decreasing.

You don’t report on anything that disagrees with The Narrative. Whichever short-term trend is most favorable to The Narrative will be the lead story.

Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 2:59 am

May come, nevertheless it’s weather within natural variability in your “discovery” latest 😀

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Mike Edwards
Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 3:17 am

the rain is arriving in massive extreme rain events, causing floods”

Yes indeed. Welcome to Australia, the land of droughts and floods. Situation normal. This has been going on a very long time.

As it says in the SMH article referenced above:

Australia has experienced 18 La Ninas since 1900 and 12 have coincided with flooding in eastern states”

2021 is yet another La Nina year.

My very first visit to Australia in 1988 coincided with a La Nina – my first weekend in Sydney the rain was so torrential it was sweeping cars off roads and there were public warnings telling us to stay at home and not venture out. Since then I have also experienced the bush fires that are typical of El Nino drought years.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Mike Edwards
December 1, 2021 7:07 am

This is all anecdotal evidence. You need to trust The Science ™.

And anyway 1988 was already in the period where CO2 was causing catastrophic climate change. Nothing like this in the past. We’ll all be rooned said Hanrahan O’Griff.


Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 3:54 am

as happens every decent la nina cycle and we appreciate it regardless of damage

Stuart Hamish
Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 4:25 am

griff if you care to examine the history of La Nina oscillations since European settlement extreme rainfall and floods are a defining feature following dry spells . It has been thus for centuries ..Were the 2010 /11 and 2016 La Nina rains and floods any worse than 1974 or the 1950’s ? ….Of course not ….1974 is the standout record wet year in the BoM national rainfall series , a cyclone peak season as well , and the bushfires of 1974 – 75 burned 117 million hectares – nearly four times the magnitude of the 2019 -20 Black Summer conflagrations ..What was the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide in 1974 -75 ? Why not ask the Climate Council why extreme weather events were worse in 1973 -75

Reply to  Stuart Hamish
December 1, 2021 6:31 am

Because “The Science” back then in 73 was convinced the next ice age was upon us.

It was in all the papers, which is precisely what “The Science” is designed to achieve.

But apparently, it came and went before we all noticed.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Stuart Hamish
December 1, 2021 6:35 am

Asking the griffter to even LOOK at heretical writings is very upsetting for him! Please try and be more gentle and understanding! Beside, his rectal/cranial inversion keeps him from doing a lot of reading; far better to receive the teachings from the priests!

Abolition Man
Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 6:29 am

Floods? In Australia? C’mon, man, try and keep your positions straight!
Everyone knows that Australia, like Calizuela, is in a PERMANENT state of drought! Ocean cycles have no effect on weather and climate; only 0.04% of the atmosphere controls them!

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Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 6:54 am

That’s the nature of the much of Australian weather. It’s either drought or flood, and always has been.

Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 10:07 am

Even the IPCC has stated a low confidence in any increase in flooding worldwide. It simply isn’t happening. You’ve been schooled on this before, yet you persist. You even quote these same “experts” when their conclusions support your Alarmist narrative.

There’s something really wrong with you, griffter. Have you been diagnosed with a mental disorder?

Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 4:33 pm

The point is you are talking out your ar$e … lack of data from grifftard as always. Just saying crap doesn’t make it so.

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Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 6:38 pm

wash, rinse, repeat.

Reply to  griff
December 1, 2021 9:48 pm

This is a surprise?

Dorothea MacKellar nailed it in 1909

Rod Smith
December 1, 2021 1:26 am

Well there we have it from the horse’s mouth: “ La Niña – the dominant climate driver affecting our weather now ….Every year in which there have (sic) been more than one severe landfalling tropical cyclone in Queensland was a La Niña year.” And yet they are still stubbornly maintaining it is all down to AGW.

December 1, 2021 1:26 am

Climate is bad.
All climate is bad.
Before human industrialisation there was no climate.
Every raindrop is a microaggression.
Every gust of wind makes me feel unsafe.
Climate is an atrocity for which Donald Trump and Carl Rittenhouse are to blame.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Hatter Eggburn
December 1, 2021 6:38 am

It’s Kyle, and he doesn’t control the weather like Trump; he’s only able to make red, Ford SUVs veer unexpectedly off course! There’s no other possible explanation!

Rich Davis
Reply to  Abolition Man
December 1, 2021 7:31 am

Why bring up a tragic accident? It’s just a local story, happens all the time, traffic accidents.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Rich Davis
December 1, 2021 4:56 pm
December 1, 2021 1:34 am

Brisbane composite rainfall back to the 18th century, “scientists” are still talking about persistent “new-normal” drought in SE Queensland:

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Brett McS
December 1, 2021 2:50 am

It’s now officially summer here in New South Wales. But it’s cold and wet!

Mike Edwards
December 1, 2021 3:31 am

Well, you can be certain of getting some good one-sided Climate Alarmism from the Climate Council.

Whether it has any relation to reality is another matter entirely.

December 1, 2021 3:46 am

last 3 days around 30 to mid and its knocking us rotten such a sharp change from 20 or under for months in sth west vic. good for crops as harvests due
as for rain? we would LOVE some please its been cool but dry and we are 3 inches under last yrs total so far gippsland n melb n mid are fine no one else is!

Thomas Gasloli
December 1, 2021 4:30 am

It is really quite simple. Everything that happens naturally is bad and always worse than expected and always caused by CO2. “Climate Science” is a certifiable delusion.

Climate believer
December 1, 2021 5:15 am

Alarmist rhetoric is here to stay.

The dogma reads like the best INGSOC propaganda all types of weather will be extrapolated out into the wider global climate catastrophe narrative” any, nay all, irregularity will find it’s roots in the bigger picture.

No 6% wetter will go unexploited, no 6% dryer will go uncapitalized.

The notion of Natural variation is to be eliminated from the public psyche.

With the full support of mass media that feeds on this constant apocalyptic narrative to drive their click bait revenue streams, the sky’s the limit, no pun intended.

The 2019 Australian drought alarmism produced Guardian headlines such as:
“I don’t know how we come back from this’.

Spoiler alert, they came back.

The Burrendong dam on the Macquarie was at 4.5% capacity mid September 2019, but where is it today….. 144.8%.

The fact is in NSW, “the total accessible storage of rural water supplies is 97% of the total accessible storage capacity.”

Is there any reflection on this from the “Ministry of Truth”?

Not at all, because now there’s too much water…and flooding yah!! time for some more click bait…

Flooding levels never seen before.In the nearby town of Merriwa, local resident Cassandra McLaren says it is the biggest flood she’s seen in 30 years.
ABC news.

ad infinitum

Abolition Man
Reply to  Climate believer
December 1, 2021 6:42 am

Natural variation, like natural immunity, ist verboten!!

December 1, 2021 5:44 am

Still at all change is bad, even if there life saving benefits…

December 1, 2021 5:47 am

Warming is good, cooling is bad.


A warmer Earth is a wetter Earth – it’s simple physical chemistry. A warmer ocean generates a wetter atmosphere due to the increased water vapor pressure in warmer water. More rain means more greening of the Earth. We have seen that already via satellite remote imaging, clearly showing more greening of the desert areas over the last several decades. How can that possibly be “bad”? That’s simply nuts to think so.

Reply to  Duane
December 1, 2021 6:58 am

Warming is good. Up to a point.
If it gets warm enough that rocks start to melt, farming gets problematic.

Abolition Man
December 1, 2021 6:58 am

Great post, Eric!
The Climate Council, like all good Marxists, spin a tangled web of lies and half truths! Just as Howard Zinn’s fictional history of the US has been used to poisoned two or more generations of students against their own country, the high priests of Climastrology have pushed their cult religion against the wealth and freedom of capitalism to all they encounter!
Fortunately, only weak and immature minds fall for their blend of doomsday religion and fully adjustable science; but many children are being emotionally scarred by their scare stories! And, of course, that explains why so many politicians fall for them as well!

December 1, 2021 7:41 am

Can’t wait to see what happens and that won’t take long.

Shoki Kaneda
December 1, 2021 10:36 am

What arrogant assholes.

December 1, 2021 1:38 pm

“Climate Council urges everyone to remember that warmer temperatures are bad.”

So, what are ya going to do about it? Destroy your economy? What I thought.

December 1, 2021 3:46 pm

Australian annual rainfall averaged 450 mm in the 1910s, rising to 490 mm in 2010s, but with annual variations from 290 mm to 750 mm. From droughts to floods, welcome to Australia.
Over the same time frame, according to the Bureau of Meteorology, average temperatures have increased by 1.5C (may include some “adjustments”)

Reply to  Robber
December 1, 2021 5:42 pm

The BoM ignores weather data records from before 1910 because of the heatwaves that interfere with BoM warming models.

December 1, 2021 3:59 pm

My Country. Poem by Dorothea Mackellar:

Readiing this poem one immediately recognises the ‘climate change’ of today also occuring during Mackellar’s lifetime.

Reply to  Alex
December 1, 2021 5:40 pm

Climate hoaxers will go on the attack when Dorothea’s poem is mentioned, they seem to be worried about her description that undermines their deceptive claims. They refer to her as a city person who did not know what she was writing about.

The fact is that she was from a very wealthy city family with pastoral property investments where the family often spent time. Later her brother owned a couple of country properties and she visited regularly.

December 1, 2021 4:17 pm

Most of Australia, except in parts of the southeast, should expect above average maximum summer temperatures”

So El Nino causes higher avg temps and La Nina causes higher avg temps?
Well not where I live (south east) , and from what I hear not up the coast either.
So what causes lower than avg temps?

Patrick MJD
December 1, 2021 8:55 pm

Up to today the weather has been very wet and cold.

Mason Crawford
December 4, 2021 2:54 am

You have have to love the Aussie government and media and the UN for that matter. So too much rain and warm weather is bad for Australia, but if the recent adds trying to scam up donations for UNICEF have a message, it’s that cold weather is bad and causes more children to die globally than anything else!

Geoffrey Williams
December 4, 2021 5:23 am

Climate Council have been caught completely wrong footed by this 2nd la nina.
They have to continue the alarmist rhetoric now with the floods and try to frighten us.
Yes floods are unpleasant and do a great deal of damage to crops and livestock but on a large scale the floods are vastly beneficial to the country. It would be nice to have the perfect weather balance all of the time, but nature does not work like that.

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