Biden Advises Americans Who Can’t Afford Gasoline to Buy an EV

Guest “Let them eat Cake” by Eric Worrall

Biden does not understand why people are finding rising gasoline prices such a struggle, when the obvious solution is to buy a $112,595 electric Hummer pickup.

Joe Biden Addresses High Gas Prices: Americans Can Save Money if They Buy Electric Cars

CHARLIE SPIERING 23 Nov 2021

President Joe Biden promoted his efforts to lower gas prices on Tuesday, but he reminded Americans they would save more money on gas if they owned electric cars.

“For the hundreds of thousands of folks who bought one of those electric cars, they’re going to save $800 to $1000 in fuel costs this year,” Biden said, referring to the $112,595 electric Hummer pickup he test drove at a General Motors factory in Detroit earlier this month.

The president appeared frustrated that some Americans continue blaming his environmental agenda for higher gas prices, dismissing it as a “myth.”

“My effort to combat climate change is not raising the price of gas, what it’s doing is increasing the availability of jobs,” Biden insisted.

“Let’s do that. Let’s beat climate change. With more extensive innovation and opportunities,” Biden said, claiming the economy would be “less vulnerable to these kinds of price hikes” on fossil fuels.

Read more: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/11/23/joe-biden-addresses-high-gas-prices-americans-can-save-money-if-they-buy-electric-cars/

There is a minor problem Biden may have overlooked – people who are struggling to put food on the table or gas in their tank to get to work might not have a spare 100K. But I’m sure if Biden puts his financial genius son Hunter on the case, his administration will figure out a way to help alleviate the US people of the burden of gasoline powered transport.

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Malcolm Latarche
November 23, 2021 2:03 pm

Marie Antoinette comes to mind – “Let them eat cake”

MarkW
Reply to  Malcolm Latarche
November 23, 2021 2:06 pm

Beat me to it.

Coeur de Lion
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2021 12:50 am

She never said that

John Endicott
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 24, 2021 4:07 am

Doesn’t matter if she actually said it or not (for the record, you are correct that she didn’t actually say it). The point is that the story of her saying it (and, more importantly the lesson behind the story) is what comes to mind.

Brian J. BAKER
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 24, 2021 9:16 am

Correct. She said “‘Qu’ils mangent de la brioche”

Michael Lemaire
Reply to  Brian J. BAKER
November 24, 2021 11:06 am

which is not true either… but it’s quite funny.

Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 25, 2021 6:29 am

True story. She has been maligned and defamed in history books. In reality, she was a brave woman whose son was turned against her in court by totally corrupted and amoral prosecutors. She went to her death, with her head held high, never grovelling or asking for mercy. To her, her accusers were low-life scum, not worthy of even a simple statement. She was a class act on all levels.

Thomas Barney
Reply to  MarkW
November 25, 2021 6:56 am

cake was relatively cheaper then verses an electric car today

John the Econ
Reply to  Malcolm Latarche
November 23, 2021 2:10 pm

Let them drive EVs, powered by unreliables.

AndyHce
Reply to  John the Econ
November 23, 2021 4:35 pm

No, powered by coal. There is plenty of coal available.

2hotel9
Reply to  AndyHce
November 23, 2021 8:39 pm

No, they have said they are shutting down renewables(coal/oil/gas/nuclear/hydro) so there will be no electricity.

Bryan A
Reply to  2hotel9
November 23, 2021 10:16 pm

Actually the EVs will be “Locked Out” by Musk 500 codes

2hotel9
Reply to  Bryan A
November 24, 2021 4:27 am

It is a feature not a bug. Leftards have been dreaming of restricting peoples’ ability to freely travel in America and this looks like a nice start to them.

Ed Reid
Reply to  John the Econ
November 24, 2021 5:25 am

Powered unreliably by unreliables.

Greg61
Reply to  John the Econ
November 24, 2021 12:34 pm

None of us will be driving squat. Once they realize they can’t supply the materials needed to build this crap they will ban personal car ownership

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Malcolm Latarche
November 23, 2021 2:25 pm

Interesting historical side note. In Marie’s time, ‘cake’ was colloquial for the hard, often almost inedible semi burnt crust on a loaf of bread baked in a wood fired oven without good temperature control, which the nobility would cut off and discard. Her insult was worse then when taken in historical context.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Rud Istvan
November 23, 2021 3:09 pm

For more historical Context the Primary Media Outlets during H.W.Bushes 1 term in office lost their minds because Sr didn’t know how grocery stores scanners worked. The media (and there were far fewer outlets in 1992) lost their collective mind and derided Bush for being completely out of touch with the average American Family. They rode that pony to create the narrative that the economy was all his fault and we needed a replacement with a (d) after his name. It worked and Bushy was a one termer.

We won’t need to pay close attention to detect a completely opposite reaction from the media over Biden’s elitist brain dead remark. If Biden thinks the average family can afford 1 Electric Car let alone 2, which most families require, could he be any more out of touch with the average American?

Rich Davis
Reply to  Bill Powers
November 23, 2021 4:43 pm

I’ve just learned that I intend to run again in 2024. Oh boy, I really have missed the Senate…you know that reminds me of seeing President Roosevelt speak to the country on television back when I was a boy, oh wait maybe it was President Lincoln…and Cornpop was a bad dude…but I’m not allowed to take any questions you dog-faced pony soldier…or I won’t get any ice cream. Thank you everyone and Happy Halloween.

Tom
Reply to  Bill Powers
November 23, 2021 6:15 pm

Your H. W. story needs a bit more ‘historical context’. He knew exactly what a bar code scanner was, but was actually being shown a scanner that could read torn and damaged bar codes. He marveled at that feature, not the bar code scanner itself. Of course, that part of the story was rarely ever told.

ATheoK
Reply to  Tom
November 23, 2021 8:40 pm

Bar codes and bar code scanners have damaged bar code redundancy in their designs.
Scanners can read bar codes with up to 10% to 30% damage.
It is part of their features…

The original grocery scanners were fixed positionally and required the cashier to properly “face” the bar code to the scanner.

They also had problems handling reflectance and contrast.

As new scanners were released, they were able to better resolve contrast and read off-angle bar codes. Something the old scanners were unable to accomplish.

ATheoK
Reply to  Bill Powers
November 23, 2021 8:27 pm

One of the things that proved Bush Sr. out of touch to America was when Bush proved his commonality by filleting a bluefish, on national TV.

It was obvious that Bush knew how to clean and fillet the fish, but never had actually done the deed himself before. He was clumsy as all get out.

His failure to finish the job in Baghdad helped seal the deal.

Bush’s sons were not any better acquainted with ordinary people.

MarkW
Reply to  Bill Powers
November 23, 2021 8:43 pm

From the beginning, the whole Bush doesn’t know about grocery score scanners was nothing more than another media attempt to discredit anyone who opposes Democrats. The bar code tag was badly damaged and Bush was expressing surprise that the scanner was still able to read it. Watch the actual video, all of it.

TonyG
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2021 10:26 am

Watch the actual video, all of it.

Arguably the biggest lesson of the century, at least with regard to the media.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2021 5:11 pm

If it’s a Republican president, the Leftwing Media is going to distort the facts. They do it to all the Republicans. That’s their job.

David John
Reply to  Bill Powers
November 23, 2021 9:55 pm

The media were also silent when Bill Clinton, HW’s replacement, went all gaga over the Presidential crest displayed electronically on the front of the lectern her was using!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  David John
November 24, 2021 5:13 pm

The leftwing Media covers up for Democrat presidents. I know, I’m stating the obvious.

Jim Veenbaas
Reply to  Rud Istvan
November 23, 2021 5:03 pm

Interesting. I never knew this.

Paul
Reply to  Rud Istvan
November 23, 2021 5:04 pm

I’ve always wondered about that quote because I love chocolate cake.
Thanks for clarifying the real meaning. It makes sense to me now.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Paul
November 23, 2021 5:53 pm

Interesting story, but more fanciful than accurate. She never said “let them eat cake”. She said “Qu’ils mangent de la brioche”. Brioche is a richer bread using sugar and eggs. Gâteau is the word for cake in French. However there’s some doubt she said anything at all.

Read my response to Rud for the full explanation.

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Teddy Lee
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 24, 2021 12:23 am

She certainly didn’t after the chop!

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Rud Istvan
November 23, 2021 5:45 pm

Nice story but no cigar. What the Queen said was; “Qu’ils mangent de la brioche”, not let them eat cake. Brioche is not “almost inedible semi burnt crust on a loaf of bread”. It is bread in which sugar and eggs are added, making a richer bread. Many hamburger buns use a brioche recipe. All breads (and cakes) were baked in “wood fired oven without good temperature control”. In France most of the best French bread still is.

The true context of the famous saying is: Marie was a very caring but rather clueless but privileged woman who, when told of her people’s plight, was trying to be helpful. She was not showing callous disregard. She was so protected and socially distanced from the people it didn’t occur to her that they only had a choice between bread and starvation … not between different types of bread. She was merely offering the suggestion of what she would do. Her people might as well have been from an alien planet. Her fault was not insensitivity. It was complete ignorance of their situation.

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Robert Hanson
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 23, 2021 6:43 pm

But most likely this was an early version of fake news, put out by anti-royal propagandists. The Left has been doing this for a very, very long time. Highly unlikely she said anything at all about this.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Robert Hanson
November 23, 2021 7:02 pm

There are mixed reports on what or even if Marie even remarked in any way at all. However, the point is; she never said “let them eat cake”. She spoke French, after all. The French version is; “Qu’ils mangent de la brioche”. Gâteau is a different thing entirely.

Coeur de Lion
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 24, 2021 12:55 am

Actually she was Austrian

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 24, 2021 7:47 am

So she should have said that the poor should just “throw another shrimp on the barbie”, right?

Alba
Reply to  Michael S. Kelly
November 24, 2021 8:46 am

No, she should have said, ‘Let them eat Sachertorte.’ Except Sachertorte hadn’t been invented until after M-A was dead. So maybe, ‘Let them eat Apfelstrudel.’

C G
Reply to  Michael S. Kelly
November 25, 2021 4:48 am

LOL!!!

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
November 24, 2021 9:40 am

I didn’t mention her origin … but are you saying she didn’t speak French? My point was that “Let them eat cake” is a bad and misleading translation.

David Brewer
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 23, 2021 8:05 pm

Perhaps, but honestly. I think it might be worse if she is just that ignorant rather than callous. The idea that the ruler of a nation can honestly not realize that her people have a serious problem with starvation is quite troubling, particularly if she actually intends to be helpful.

The thing most people don’t realize about history is that well meaning idiots often cause vastly more damage than cruel selfish men like Hitler.

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Rory Forbes
Reply to  David Brewer
November 23, 2021 8:32 pm

I think it might be worse if she is just that ignorant rather than callous.

Exactly so … it was far worse. The aristocracy were so far removed from the reality of the common people they were almost of a different species.

well meaning idiots often cause vastly more damage than cruel selfish men like Hitler.

Spot on, again … as C.S. Lewis put it:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

Derg
Reply to  David Brewer
November 23, 2021 11:39 pm

Subterfuge? One never know in politics or media.

ATheoK
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 23, 2021 9:21 pm

“wood fired oven without good temperature control”.

Wrong!
They had no temperature control as people nowadays think of controlling oven temperature.

Kindling wood for wood stoves may help when starting fires, but it was really used for temperature control when cooking. Adding a few degrees for a brief time while baking.

Instead bakers/cooks use telltale signs that the oven/griddle were hot enough.

Campers today still use Dutch ovens and cast iron pans yet bake perfect breads, tarts and pies.
Old wood fired pizza ovens are wonderful at baking bread.
In Afghanistan and India tandoors are used to make breads.

Odors as food cooks tell experienced bakers the progress of the baking/cooking.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  ATheoK
November 24, 2021 12:01 am

It was Rud Istvan who wrote the sentence you quoted.

In France most of the best French bread still is.” (cooked in a naturally regulated wood oven)

That’s what I said earlier. You’re right. In the past there were no thermostats but bakers and cooks used many other means to regulate temperature. Bread is cooked after the fire has been ‘drawn’ and relies on the retained heat of the oven. Long experience provides very good control. I’ve cooked with gas, oil, electricity and wood. There are all sorts of methods. For instance, in order to judge the temp. for deep frying, stick a used chopstick into the oil … the bubbles tell when the oil is right. The colour of the butter determines the temp. for sauteing. A drop of water on the pan will skip when just right for searing. As you say, even the smell is a tell. Stove top cooking (the bulk of all cooking) has no temperature control.

Davidf
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 23, 2021 9:44 pm

So, exactly analogous then?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Davidf
November 24, 2021 12:03 am

I have no idea what you’re responding to or the context of your phrase. Even a complete sentence would have helped.

ANDY MANSELL
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 23, 2021 10:30 pm

It’s basically the same trick as the media and lefty types in general always use when talking about Lady Thatcher- they quote her as saying, ‘There’s no such thing as society’, and use it to ‘prove’ that she had no interest in ordinary folk or their plight, when in fact she meant the exact opposite and was pointing out that ‘society’ is made up of ordinary people and that merely using the word society was quite insulting to them and their struggles.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  ANDY MANSELL
November 24, 2021 12:08 am

Th media be brutal when they want to attack someone’s character. Half truths and straw man arguments combined with shifting context often fools most readers, especially when they want to think the worst. We saw what they did to Trump by shaping the narrative with lies. The Left leaning media is especially dishonest.

MarkW
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 24, 2021 9:33 am

Was it Maureen Dowd who once used elipses (…) to eliminate a couple of key words from a quote, completely flipping it’s meaning, in order to attack Reagan?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2021 10:00 am

I’m not sure about Maureen Dowd, but from what little I know of her, you could be right. I do know that journalist and AGW true believer, Potholer54, uses a similar technique on his vlog. When you catch him at it your remarks disappear and you get banned.

TonyG
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 24, 2021 10:27 am

She was so protected and socially distanced from the people it didn’t occur to her that they only had a choice between bread and starvation

Not much has changed with our so-called “leaders”, has it?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  TonyG
November 24, 2021 5:44 pm

Not much has changed with our so-called “leaders”, has it?

That’s the dangerous nature of entitlement. Most long term politicians are so insensitive to their electorate, they lie as a matter of habit and policy completely undisturbed when caught.

Alba
Reply to  Rud Istvan
November 24, 2021 8:43 am

Apparently, the first recorded use of the sentence was in a book Jean-Jacques Rousseau published in 1782 He did not mention Marie-Antoinette by name but referred to ‘a great princess’. And the sentence he used was ‘Let them eat brioche’. Brioche is a bread enriched with butter and eggs so not exactly something the nobility would discard.

Vuk
Reply to  Malcolm Latarche
November 23, 2021 2:29 pm

If you can’t afford gasoline just you wait to find out the cost of battery replacement. For Tesla model S it is estimated to be about $12,000-$13,000, so don’t be too eager to buy an older second hand one.

Bryan A
Reply to  Vuk
November 23, 2021 2:54 pm

Then their price HAS come down…
They used to be $44-49,000

Dennis
Reply to  Vuk
November 23, 2021 6:06 pm

So add replacement batteries to the “fuel” cost before “savings”, and the trade-in devaluation based on batteries useful operating life retained for the second-hand EV buyer.

stewartpid
Reply to  Vuk
November 24, 2021 7:03 am

Actually a full replacement is more in the 17,000 to 23,000 range if done by Tesla.
However often there are cheaper fixes since not all cells in the battery will be toast and so a rebuild is typically around 7,000 dollars … but tesla won’t do that ….they will only bend u over and gouge u for a full battery replacement.
See Rich Rebuilds for some battery stories: Tesla wanted him to pay $22500 to replace a battery pack, we did it for 75% less! – YouTube
Here is another one … no battery problem … a battery cooling problem: Tesla wanted $16,000 to fix this NEW Model 3, we did it for $700! The importance of Right to REPAIR! – YouTube

MarkW
Reply to  stewartpid
November 24, 2021 9:35 am

The problem with a rebuild, is that the cells that aren’t replaced are still old, and will start giving out soon.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Malcolm Latarche
November 23, 2021 6:00 pm

“<em>Whoever uttered those unforgettable words, it was almost certainly not Marie-Antoinette, …<em>”

Did Marie-Antoinette really say “Let them eat cake”? – HISTORY

Barry
Reply to  John Hultquist
November 23, 2021 8:49 pm

Lost in translation, “let them eat caca!”.

DonM
Reply to  Barry
November 24, 2021 11:15 am

“If they don’t like it they can eat me.”

meab
Reply to  Malcolm Latarche
November 23, 2021 7:24 pm

The people least likely to be able to afford gasoline also don’t own their own house or garage where they can recharge their EV at low cost. If you have to take your EV to a commercial charging station, it costs double to triple the average price of residential electricity to charge. At that price, it is cheaper to operate a gasoline powered Prius hybrid per mile (or any similar hybrid). A Prius is much cheaper than any EV too, plus you can find lots of used Prii for sale for even less money. Biden is COMPLETELY clueless if he thinks that an EV is a money saving option for the less well to do.

Hopefully, traditional dimocrat voters will realize the dims are going to screw them with all their extremely poorly thought-out policies.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  meab
November 23, 2021 7:54 pm

Priuses (Prii???) have very good resale value, especially right now. It’s not hard to find a ten year old Prius going to $12k USD.

I’m buying my stepmom’s 2012 (70k miles) for $10k. My dad used to drive it, but he passed away last week. So I’m giving her a good amount for it.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
November 23, 2021 8:43 pm

So I’m giving her a good amount for it.

That’s a good thing … and sorry for your loss.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 24, 2021 8:34 am

Thanks.

Derg
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
November 23, 2021 11:41 pm

All used cars have value right now.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Derg
November 24, 2021 8:36 am

That’s true, but I think Priuses are probably higher. My stepmother said Toyota was offering to buy it back from her. But I made my offer before she took it to Toyota for appraisal.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
November 24, 2021 5:15 pm

Sorry to hear that, Jeff.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Tom Abbott
December 1, 2021 8:55 am

Thanks Tom.

Matthew Siekierski
Reply to  meab
November 24, 2021 4:20 am

My 07 Prius is just past 280k miles, still averages about 40MPG. My 2015 Prius V (my commuter) gets around 43MPG. Bought both of them used (141k and 120k miles on each when I got them).

They’re offset by the 12-passenger van I need to haul my clan around.

Hybrids get the best of both worlds, and the worst. Quick refuels like ICEs (since they have those), good gas mileage, but we use both fossil fuels AND rare earth elements. But I think the older model has a NiMH battery, not Lithium.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  meab
November 24, 2021 6:45 am

The Ducks tell me that there were 286.9m cars registered in the US in 2020. According to the IEA there were 1.1m BEVs and 0.6m PHEVs in the US at the end of 2020.

I don’t think Biden has a clue!

Duane
Reply to  Malcolm Latarche
November 24, 2021 5:21 am

To be honest, however, notwithstanding Biden’s reference to a luxury vehicle which he just drove, you can get a brand new EV for under $30K today, which is no more than your average gas powered sedan an a lot lower than typical SUVs, pickup trucks let alone luxury or sports cars.

And Biden is right – his policies are not causing the temporary spike in gas prices, which we have experienced over and over and over and over again over the last 5 decades. It’s all due to supply and demand, driven by the COVID pandemic and its after effects.

All you have to do is look at the supply and demand curves for oil and gas in 2020 and 2021 – it’s the classic steep recession, which dramatically reduces demand, followed by oil producers cutting investments in production, then followed by an unusually fast recovery that began a year ago that spiked oil and gas demand, and this year oil and gas producers have been behind the curve on restoring production.

Additionally, the cliffs and spikes in consumer demand and production capability didn’t just hit oil and gas – it hit everything in life, as we all know. Food, manufactured goods, services, construction, real estate … everything went on a humongous roller coaster ride in 2020-2021, and we’re still in it. None of that, I repeat none of that, had a blessed thing to do with Biden’s policies, because it all preceded Biden’s entry into office and has been baked into the cake ever since.

I am not a Biden fan nor (as everyone who has read my comments here) certainly not a warmunist, but we have to be honest in our criticisms. Otherwise it’s all just a bunch of propaganda spewing from both sides of the political argument. Which of course, it is.

MPassey
Reply to  Duane
November 24, 2021 8:31 am

You make some valid points on the particulars of the Biden angle, but the interesting part is “oil producers cutting investments in production”. This is a growing trend because of ESG investing and the belief that fossil fuels will be replaced very soon, stranding the assets of petroleum producers. This is the trend that will lead to high petroleum prices and even shortages for the foreseeable future. And the warmunists, including Biden, are largely responsible for this.  

MarkW
Reply to  Duane
November 24, 2021 9:38 am

The tiny drop and recovery caused by COVID was never enough to explain the increase in oil prices.
The COVID drop was pretty much over before Trump left office, but the price rise did not start until months later.

Last edited 9 days ago by MarkW
DonM
Reply to  Duane
November 24, 2021 11:24 am

Duane,

I am again very confused about your oil posts.

You state (in a previous post) that demand was about 18% greater than production in 2018 & 2019. That is a crapload of oil that appeared out thin air (or was taken out a very very big reserve?)

Then you say (in the same previous post) that with the COVID crash, the demand is more than 20% higher than the production.

Prices should have skyrocketed (per the Obama hope & change).

Then you reference (in your previous post) the Law of supply and demand like it supports your statements.

You are very confusing.

[And any time a person feels that they need to preface their statements with ‘to be honest’, everyone should be very leery of everything else that person says]

TonyG
Reply to  DonM
November 24, 2021 4:14 pm

“And any time a person feels that they need to preface their statements with ‘to be honest’, everyone should be very leery of everything else that person says”

Never trust someone who says “Trust me”…

DonM
Reply to  TonyG
November 24, 2021 6:42 pm

The good ones tell you upfront;

From ‘Local Hero’:

“Sounds like good advice, Reverend. I know I don’t have to ask you, sir but could you treat our conversation with confidence, for the meantime?”

“Oh, I give you my word that I’ll be as discreet as the next man, Mr Maclntyre.”

“Thank you.”

But news does tend to travel fast around here.

“I understand, sir.”

“The reverend says ‘News travels fast around here.’
Hmm.”

C G
Reply to  Duane
November 25, 2021 5:34 am

I agree with much of what you say. One thing I would add is that the entire ESG movement supported mostly by the corporate democrat elites prevents capital from flowing into new oil and gas projects. This entire movement is a dangerous interference in free markets. It prevents new exploration and supply from coming online which exacerbates the supply crunch caused by the pandemic.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Malcolm Latarche
November 24, 2021 9:52 am

Hey guys! ““Let them eat cake” was Eric’s subtitle. Even the alarmist trolls probably associate that with Marie Antoinette.

Be alert. We need more lerts.

Gregory Woods
November 23, 2021 2:04 pm

I am certain that Joe Bidet was just joking…

MarkW
Reply to  Gregory Woods
November 23, 2021 2:06 pm

I am certain that Joe Biden is a joke.

SxyxS
Reply to  MarkW
November 23, 2021 4:44 pm

You need to read Joe Bidens new book
” My struggle – with the TelePrompTer “

Mr.
Reply to  Gregory Woods
November 23, 2021 3:21 pm

The only thing Joe Bidet will flush away is householders’ living money.

John
Reply to  Mr.
November 23, 2021 4:30 pm

more likely the crap in his pants when he saw the Pope

SxyxS
Reply to  Gregory Woods
November 23, 2021 3:35 pm

I am certain Joe Biden had no clue what he was saying.
His remaining braincells can barely decode the words on the TelePrompTer
let alone understand the context.

Just 4 hours ago Biden once again read ” end of quote ” off the TelePrompTer.

“They write it,I read it.
Being US president is so easy”

Joe Biden 2022

Rich Davis
Reply to  SxyxS
November 23, 2021 4:57 pm

“Shut up! Get off the stage. Don’t read this. Just turn around and walk away.”

“Oh, the voices are saying get off the stage. Probably won’t get my pudding again.”

Oldseadog
Reply to  Rich Davis
November 24, 2021 1:53 am

Several years ago in a New Orleans shop I almost bought a T shirt with the message “You are just jealous because you can’t hear what the little voices are saying to me.” Maybe someone could give your President one like that.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Oldseadog
November 24, 2021 5:21 pm

I saw a Christmas sweater today that had “All I want for Christmas is Affordable Gasoline” written across the front of it.

Wade
Reply to  Gregory Woods
November 23, 2021 3:39 pm

Probably not. These people hate anyone not part of their clique. Ergo, they hate the freedom that a reasonably priced vehicle with reasonably priced fuel brings. The solution is to make vehicle ownership limited to a select few. Publicly they say for the environment, but privately they do so because they hate us and want to rule us.

Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia
Reply to  Wade
November 23, 2021 6:02 pm

exactly so. USSR, GDR, that’s what is in store for us if they get their way.

DrEd
Reply to  Gregory Woods
November 23, 2021 4:39 pm

You can’t fix stupid.

Jet A
Reply to  DrEd
November 23, 2021 4:46 pm

No matter how hard you try….. You can not polish a Turd.

Fraizer
Reply to  Jet A
November 23, 2021 7:32 pm

But you can roll it in glitter.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Fraizer
November 23, 2021 8:46 pm

Yeah, sure you can … but how do you know which is the clean end to pick it up with?

Bryan A
Reply to  Jet A
November 23, 2021 10:23 pm

Bryan A
Reply to  Gregory Woods
November 23, 2021 10:20 pm

No he wasn’t though I imagine he might think of himself as Joe King

Joao Martins
Reply to  Gregory Woods
November 24, 2021 2:49 am

“I am certain that Joe Bidet was just joking…”

Do you mean, impersonating himself?…

Tom Halla
November 23, 2021 2:06 pm

Add in al least five figures to have adequate charging installed, assuming one already owns a single family house.

Pflashgordon
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 23, 2021 2:55 pm

And always park it outside if you value your home and lives.

Richard Page
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 23, 2021 5:57 pm

No, oh no. The whole purpose of the EV push is not to get everybody driving electric cars, but to reduce the number of cars on the roads. Rejoice, for the long struggle to deal with congestion and traffic jams will soon be at an end! sarc.

John the Econ
November 23, 2021 2:12 pm

During the Obama era, I started calling the Democrats the “Marie Antoinette Party”. And now the entire Progressive elite establishment is now shamelessly pedal to the metal.

“Inflation airhead: NBC’s Stephanie Ruhle says the “dirty little secret” of people complaining about paying higher prices for food and fuel for their homes is they can afford it just fine. According to her, people should have been saving during the pandemic and stocks look good.”

https://twitter.com/i/status/1459891950363058182

Joseph Zorzin
November 23, 2021 2:18 pm

I’d love an EV but can’t and never will be able to afford one. I love my electric chain saw, weed wacker, and law mower. I wouldn’t get an EV to save the Earth- I just like the quite engine and not fond of storing gas around the property. But I live on a modest social insecurity check and have a 2004 pickup- still runs well too.

H.R.
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 23, 2021 3:57 pm

My son wants a Tesla. Not for any virtue signaling Green bunkum reasons. He doesn’t buy into a whit of any “Climate Change” alarmism. He just wants one for the Ludicrous Mode.

Here’s a link to a video of a Tesla setting an EV 1/4-mile record; 9.081 seconds at 154.10 mph. That is impressive! If stripped down a bit, it’s thought they could run a quarter-mile in under 9 seconds.

It’s a short video because it’s a very fast 1/4 mile.

https://insideevs.com/news/522426/tesla-models-plaid-drag-record/

That said, my kid makes good bucks but prefers eating and having a roof over his head over owning an EV.

Dennis
Reply to  H.R.
November 23, 2021 6:12 pm

Consider heating problems for batteries and electric motor/s, this is already proving to be a problem for enthusiasts developing electric racing cars for longer distance events.

H.R.
Reply to  Dennis
November 23, 2021 8:15 pm

I’m well aware of the distance racing EV fiasco.

The drag strip is where they don’t get into those problems. BUT… they haven’t been successful in Top Fuel drag racing. The electric motors hit a wall at – oh, it’s been some time since I read it – ummm, about 280 mph? The pro drag racers tried it and couldn’t get past the wall. The top fueelies are well over 300 mph.

But they are great in the street classes as in that brief video.

H.R.
Reply to  H.R.
November 23, 2021 8:26 pm

Oh, and Bugatti is switching to an EV for top end honors. It’s supposed to be a 2,000+ hp car. They will probably take the honors for the fastest barely-production car, but it’s going to have range problems by the boatload with that kind of output.

Maybe “The Big Guy” is getting 10% to push Bugattis?
😜

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  H.R.
November 24, 2021 10:13 am

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/dodge-challenger-charger-and-hellcat-engines-will-die-by-2024/ar-AAR0GmT?ocid=winp1taskbar

Hybrid Corvettes are scheduled for 2023. That isn’t so far away!

I’m reminded of the Road Warrior, with Mad Max driving the “Last V8.”

TonyG
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 24, 2021 4:10 pm

My uncle has a country place, that no-one knows about
He says it used to be a farm, before the Motor Law

MarkW
Reply to  Dennis
November 23, 2021 8:50 pm

Even when they don’t overheat completely, the extra heat at the junctions is enough to shorten battery life.

Dennis
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 23, 2021 6:10 pm

My son is a builder and a couple of weeks ago needed a concrete and masonry saw for a project. He invited an electric-battery powered saw dealer to demonstrate their product and discovered that for continuous operation 4-6 batteries were recommended taking into account operating time each, recharging and not regularly over-heating the batteries.

Compared to a 4-stroke petrol engine powered saw the battery electric was almost twice the price before accounting for future battery replacements.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Dennis
November 24, 2021 2:28 am

I’m trying to imagine electric farm tractors, and electric logging machines (skidders, forwarders, feller-bunchers, cut-to-length machines)- and really big trucks of all kinds. Maybe they’ll use tiny, suitcase sized, nuclear reactors. Yuh, right.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 24, 2021 3:46 am

How did the colonists cut down the forests of New England back in the 1600s? That is essentially how it will need to be done without fossil fuel. To be fair, whatever the optimized process was in the 1890s may still be feasible for the net zero 2050s.

I’m guessing it was axes, saws, ropes, pulleys, wagons, and a lot of human and animal labor.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Rich Davis
November 24, 2021 3:53 am

Right as to those methods. Then they had to remove all the stones from the land- millions of them- many ended up in the stone walls. When Nixon went to China and they brought him to the Great Wall, he declared that there is more stone in the stone walls of New England than in The Great Wall. Might even be true! Some of the stones weigh tons. But alas, the greens in New England are fighting hard to end all logging. They want to lock all the forests so they’ll do only one thing- sequester carbon. After all, no need for more wood since the greens already have nice wood homes, wood furniture and paper products. Future generations can build homes with mud bricks.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
November 24, 2021 10:20 am

It seems to me that there is a trend to turn all public land into unfenced, out-door zoos/parks where one is supposed to enjoy the scenery and “Leave nothing but footprints.” The idea of “multiple use” land appears to be going the way of self-reliance.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 24, 2021 12:00 pm

But then people scream when the price of wood at Home Depot shoots up. It’s fine to have some land where you leave nothing but footprints we can’t live without using the resources of the land- most of it- and the resources of industry. But the green crowd would like to end both until they find out it’ll hurt their lifestyle. Then they complain about the shortages without realizing the cause and without wanting anyone to explain it to them.

Rud Istvan
November 23, 2021 2:22 pm

Senility on display:

Cancel Keystone XL.
Cancel the ANWAR leases.
Prohibit exploration and drilling on federal lands.

Beg OPEC to increase production.

Blame ‘greedy’ oil companies for price gouging.

Release 50 mBBL from SPR—equal to 2.5 days US consumption—to ‘solve’ the long term oil supply problem you have created, NOT!

Finally, buy an EV that costs more and works less well if you cannot afford gas for your present car.

Ridicule is the only possible response to Slo Joe’s moves. And AOC’s GND on which his idiotic first three moves were based.

lgp
Reply to  Rud Istvan
November 23, 2021 3:32 pm

Todays gasoline prices are based on oil bought months ago when oil price was higher, but the fool deflects and lies by saying “oil prices are down now, but gas prices are still high” to blame the greedy oil companies, relying on ignorance of the democrat voter base to believe his lies.

Brad-DXT
Reply to  Rud Istvan
November 23, 2021 4:11 pm

Don’t forget that half of oil reserves that he is releasing go to China and India.

ResourceGuy
November 23, 2021 2:22 pm

Since this is all directional PR spin from advisors, just use a puppet with string controls for the mouth.

Ron Long
Reply to  ResourceGuy
November 23, 2021 2:43 pm

Don’t you wish some Artificial Intelligence expert would program all of the advisors writing tendencies and find out who writes the garbage Brandon struggles to read from the teleprompter? Maybe one of the bookmakers in Las Vegas could take bets? Susan Rice?

Rich Davis
Reply to  Ron Long
November 23, 2021 5:44 pm

I am frankly surprised that with today’s technology, the puppetmasters haven’t created a Joe Biden version of Max Headspace. It wouldn’t be too hard to sell the idea that the old doofus doesn’t want to risk getting covid, so he needs to use video conferencing for all his press appearances. They could keep that going for years after he passes away. I’m sure if anyone got too suspicious there would be plenty of Democrat operatives in the propaganda service, er press corps, who would happily do a green screen thing to make it look like Brandon was doing a rare personal interview.

And yes, I do think the Democrats would do something like that. They would do absolutely anything that they thought they could get away with.

MarkW
Reply to  Rich Davis
November 23, 2021 8:53 pm

Max Headroom

Rich Davis
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2021 2:49 am

Ah yes, thanks for the correction

TonyG
Reply to  Rich Davis
November 24, 2021 10:34 am

I think that perhaps, given the application, “Headspace” might not have been that much of a mistake…

lgp
Reply to  Ron Long
November 23, 2021 5:58 pm

Walter 2.0 (with apologies to Jeff Dunham)

lgp
Reply to  lgp
November 23, 2021 5:59 pm

Walter 2.0 (with apologies to Jeff Dunham)

Walter 2.0.jpg
November 23, 2021 2:23 pm

“C’mon man just use an EverReady battery. Easy peasy folks” claims POTUS

ResourceGuy
November 23, 2021 2:25 pm

At least he’s not reading the Sierra Club script calling everyone who does not comply a “head-in-sand” denier like Obama did. Soft stupid is better than podium thrashings. Do we get a UAW award sticker if we buy one?

n.n
November 23, 2021 2:25 pm

Performance in mechanics, not energy conversion. Batteries with lithium deposits, and motors with disparately distributed “rare Earth” elements. Pollution that is shared/shifted somewhere else. A sociopolitical myth and Green solution. That said, go green, buy organic… affordable, available, productive, and nutritious in certain environments.

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Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 23, 2021 9:44 pm

What were the contributing factors for American Indians?

gringojay
November 23, 2021 2:25 pm

Sure thing!

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Peter
Reply to  gringojay
November 23, 2021 11:24 pm

But…… if we all buy EV’s we will never ever have any hurricanes anymore. They promised.

ResourceGuy
November 23, 2021 2:26 pm

Gotta go rev up my V8 Toyota now.

John K. Sutherland
November 23, 2021 2:37 pm

Gasoline is expensive but electricity is right there all the time… must be… to replace it. So sayeth the soothsayer in chief.

November 23, 2021 2:39 pm

Twenty reasons that there will not be a rush to follow Biden’s suggestion.

20: Battery Replacements are expensive
19: Charging Stations are sparse
18: Electric Vehicles have heavyweight
17: Electric Vehicles are hard to repair
16: The Electric Vehicles have limited Range
15: Charging Times are slow
14: Electric Vehicles have a high price tag
13: Batteries will wear out and are costly to replace
12: Fire Hazard is a reported problem for the battery11: Subpar Performance is found in many models
10: Lack of availability with a multitude of models coming out
9: There is a lack of Service Centers for Electric Vehicles
8: Lack of Charging Infrastructure in public
7: High Electric Bill for at-home charging
6: Limited Cargo capacity for most models
5: Electric Cars cost much more
4: Zero Emissions Is a lie as the electricity comes off a fossil-fueled grid3: Quick Charging can damage batteries
2: Resale Value Is questionable1: Parts are hard to find

ResourceGuy
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 23, 2021 3:04 pm

Performance claims are consumer fraud.

Dennis
Reply to  ResourceGuy
November 23, 2021 6:19 pm

Like;

* Range quoted not real world range city and highway conditions.

* Recharging often quoted as 10-80% so a loss of potential range.

* Rarely mentioned are variable range loss factors like air conditioning on, hills, number of passengers and luggage, average speed – recommend on highway 80 kmh or less to reduce energy usage but highway speeds in Australia are 100 kmh and 110 kmh zones.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Dennis
November 24, 2021 9:41 am

Yes, and even large companies and institutional investors are being scammed on range/battery claims by startups. It’s Solyndra 10,000x.

Nigel in California
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 23, 2021 3:14 pm

#5 and #14?

John Endicott
Reply to  Nigel in California
November 24, 2021 4:25 am

#13 and #20 are another pair of doppelgangers.

PaulH
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 23, 2021 4:11 pm

#3 Maybe used is the way to go? “Hey buddy, wanna buy a giant used battery with wheels and explosive potential?” 😆

John
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 23, 2021 4:35 pm

not least if everyone in your neighbourhood has an EV the power grid will fail as it was never designed to have that amount of current carried on the cables

John
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 23, 2021 4:36 pm

PS I forgot need to park 25m from any flammable item if need to maintain your insurance

Dennis
Reply to  John
November 23, 2021 6:20 pm

Best to park outside, not in garage or under cover carparks.

Dennis
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 23, 2021 6:15 pm

Bill Gates was quoted a few years ago speaking about new technology, he said there was no point to new technology unless it exceeded the benefits already available to consumers.

At this stage, in my view, EV has a long way to go before becoming competitive with ICEV.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Dennis
November 24, 2021 7:12 am

There are around 1.4 billion ICEVs in the world today and it is anticipated that by 2050 there will be 2 billion cars.

According to the International Energy Agency there were 10.2m BEVS & PHEVS in the world at the end of 2020. In a report in May 2021 the IEA also anticipated that on the best scenario there would be c. 72m EVs worldwide by 2040.

The idea that everybody is going to switch to EVs in the foreseeable future is a pipe-dream.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 24, 2021 10:26 am

0: Performance and range are seriously degraded by cold weather.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 24, 2021 10:30 am

0: Completely unsuitable for use in real winter weather

Simon
Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
November 24, 2021 5:44 pm

20: Battery Replacements are expensive. I don’t know if this is true….but would be compensated by the fact they have fewer parts and they are much more reliable. An electric engine will do around a million miles. And almost no maintenance.
19: Charging Stations are sparse. Bollocks.
18: Electric Vehicles have heavyweight. And your point is?
17: Electric Vehicles are hard to repair. What????
16: The Electric Vehicles have limited Range. That’s changing. Mine will do around 500km’s.
15: Charging Times are slow. Maybe, but I charge mine while I sleep so that’s more convenient than going to a gas station.
14: Electric Vehicles have a high price tag. That’s changing. BYD Dolphin going to be around 20 something k.
13: Batteries will wear out and are costly to replace. Thats changing. The lithium phosphate batteries are looking to last a lot longer. And the next generation will last longer again.
12: Fire Hazard is a reported problem for the battery11: Subpar Performance is found in many models. That’s changing. See lithium phosphate..
10: Lack of availability with a multitude of models coming out. No idea what you even mean here. If you mean you can’t get specific models, then that is no different to ICE cars.
9: There is a lack of Service Centers for Electric Vehicles. Primarily because they need almost no servicing. No gear or engine oil. No radiator and no plugs to change. In fact with regen braking you rarely even need to replace the brake pads. No tune ups and no fuel pumps. I could go on…..
8: Lack of Charging Infrastructure in public. It was bollocks when you said it the first time.
7: High Electric Bill for at-home charging. You are joking right? It costs me $14(NZD) to fill the tesla and I get 500 kms. Petrol cars are costing well over $100 to do the same thing.
6: Limited Cargo capacity for most models. WHAT??? They are two boots. From and back. No engine to take up space.
5: Electric Cars cost much more. That’s changing, see above. The base Ford F150 is coming in at $40k US.
4: Zero Emissions Is a lie as the electricity comes off a fossil-fueled grid3: Quick Charging can damage batteries. Lithium phosphate not affected by quick charging and can charge to 100% and drain to 0. NZ is 80% renewable. But yes there are trade offs. No transportation is without it’s issues.
2: Resale Value Is questionable1: Nonsense. Try and but a second hand Tesla. Parts are hard to find…. See above.

EV’s may not be perfect but then nothing is. I will tell you one thing though. They are a shit load of fun to drive. I know of no ICE car that is as smooth, as quiet and as quick as the EV I drive.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Simon
November 25, 2021 9:17 pm

16: The Electric Vehicles have limited Range. That’s changing. Mine will do around 500km’s.

And what happens when all the residents try to escape from Miami ahead of a hurricane, and half the cars don’t have a full charge? Or the evacuation order comes right after you get home from work, and none of the cars have a full charge?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Simon
November 25, 2021 9:26 pm

You are joking right? It costs me $14(NZD) to fill the tesla and I get 500 kms. Petrol cars are costing well over $100 to do the same thing.

I think you are exaggerating. I can go 300 miles for closer to $30 US, not the $69 US you are citing. My experience with NZ rental cars is that they probably get better gas mileage than my Subaru, but have marginal power for getting over the pass from Greymouth to Christchurch.

Simon
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 26, 2021 12:47 am

No exaggeration. Maths Mr White. My battery is 70kw. I pay .20 a kilowatt. 70 x .20 is $14. My Petrol MX 5 (last car) cost $120 to fill and I got around 550 km’s. The result is the same. EV’s are significantly cheaper to run.

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Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Simon
November 26, 2021 9:38 am

That may be the case in NZ with lots of hydroelectric and geothermal power, and expensive imported gasoline. That doesn’t mean it is a universal solution.

Simon
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 26, 2021 11:12 am

Fair point.

SxyxS
November 23, 2021 3:05 pm

Those guys who run Biden have so little respect for him that they don’t mind let him read the craziest stuff from the TelePrompTer.

But on a more serious note and even if we ignore that Biden is the reason gas prizes went up from day 1 his billionaire bosses pushed his corpse over the presidential finishing line.

As soon as the number of EV’s reaches a significant ratio,
let’s say 20% , all the renewable energy that is being produced will be absorbed by cars and trucks.
Electricity prizes will skyrocket,and instead of saving 800-1000 dollars a year the EV will cost an additional 8000-10000 Dollars a year.
In fact those 800 saved dollars will probably be lost within the next 12 month as result of the massive inflation.

So the only people who won’t get crushed by EV energy prizes will be the caviar communists in gated community with solar panels.

PS
Bidens hummer EV Edition 1
weighs more than 4 tons.That’s so resource and energy saving.
The perfect decadent car for a caviar communists to drive to his private jet.

Dennis
Reply to  SxyxS
November 23, 2021 6:23 pm

My builder son in Sydney, Australia has pointed out that very few trades people are interested in large trucks like Ford-F150 range and other brands because of parking restrictions around work sites and inner city ranger patrols strictly enforcing parking regulations.

Their favourite ute is Toyota Hi Luxe and other brands of equivalent dimensions, most are Diesel engine powered.

MarkW
Reply to  SxyxS
November 23, 2021 8:57 pm

This afternoon, Biden read out loud some of the stage directions from the teleprompter

SxyxS
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2021 2:00 am

I already posted about it somewhere above.

Robert of Texas
November 23, 2021 3:15 pm

That’s OK, he is going to give criminals here illegally government money to buy EVs, so the only people who are going to suffer are citizens – that’s OK according to his administration. Of course, he will need to raise their taxes (citizens) to pay for this.

Michael in Dublin
November 23, 2021 3:23 pm

We have the same lunacy among the Irish politicians that think we will be able to have 1 million electric vehicles on our roads by 2030.

Currently the cheapest Hyundai is roughly $17 000 and their cheapest electric roughly $35 000. To fully subsidize the addition cost of every electric car will cost the government well in excess of $18 billion.

This does not include all the expenditure for charging infrastructure or for the massive loss in fuel tax – we currently pay 128% tax on fuel. ($0.85 before tax and $1.94 after tax on 1L or 0.22 US gal – approaching $9 per gal)

One thing I have noticed about politicians is that their Math is terrible – perhaps deliberately so?

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Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 24, 2021 4:26 am

Eric, as much a I appreciate the efforts of this website to expose alarmist nonsense, we face a far bigger problem than ignorant politicians. Take Clintel’s clear and succinct World Climate Declaration that in less than 400 words spells out the key issues that need to be addressed. Yet, how many “literate” people will be able to read this and then critically and logically test the six statements?

We have a kind of educated but illiterate public and so need to make far more use of pictures and illustrations and cartoons to bring our message down to the level of the public. Take today’s Daily Mail article, Arctic plunge is set to bring travel chaos. Less than 30% of the article is text and the rest pictures and charts. I do not like that actual final product of the DM but merely use this to illustrate my point of an illiterate public not challenged to think deeply.

You will remember Classics Illustrated that introduced many children to the classics in comic form. Something like that is needed that will appeal to today’s youngsters and be read by parents giving them a real appreciation of climate and weather. Here is the challenge to the younger contributors to this site and cartoonists like Josh.

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Dennis
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
November 23, 2021 6:26 pm

Here in Australia the China-made MG brand Model ZS in EV retail price A$40,990 and the Model ZS ICEV A$24,990

The price difference would pay for a lot of petrol/gas and maintenance services before the EV break even point was reached.

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Dennis
November 24, 2021 3:23 am

“Made in China” where I am sure they treat their workers well, give them a fair wage and allow them the freedoms we take for granted in the West – sarcasm for those who may miss my point.

saveenergy
November 23, 2021 3:26 pm

Biden does not understand how to control his bodily functions !

SxyxS
Reply to  saveenergy
November 23, 2021 4:46 pm

The problem is that Bidens controls his country the same way.

H.R.
November 23, 2021 3:36 pm

You know those pine-tree shaped deodorizers you hang from the rearview mirror?

They’d have to use one the size of a Christmas tree in that Hummer after pResident Brandon rode in it.

Phhbbblllaaaaaatt!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“What?!? Did we just blow out a tire? Uh-oh. My window is stuck.
😲

Chris Nisbet
November 23, 2021 3:59 pm

Some ex-presidents go on the speaking circuit once they leave office. This one might do OK on the stand-up comedy circuit.

John
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
November 23, 2021 6:33 pm

would anyone be stupid enough to pay to watch a brain dead jester

Thomas Gasloli
November 23, 2021 4:25 pm

Of course there is the additional stupidity that his policies are also increasing the price of electricity. This administration consists entirely of morons.🤪

David John
Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
November 23, 2021 10:12 pm

But you must understand they are a superior class of moron!

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Thomas Gasloli
November 24, 2021 6:46 am

The problem is that they are not morons. If they were simply morons it would be a lot easier dealing with them. A spiteful and spoilt child will do things to hurt his or her siblings or parents without considering the consequences. However, when adults are prepared to hurt their community and country because of hatred and not see that their own extended family and friends will also be hurt by their actions, I would not call them morons or stupid but rather wicked or evil people. For them the end justifies the means. Many climate alarmists foolishly support this ideology and ignore the consequences of implementing their rash policies.

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November 23, 2021 4:26 pm

You don’t have to go to $100K to make the point.
Assume you wouldn’t ordinarily be in the market for a new vehicle.
To convert to an EV one would need to come up with $30k to $40k less the value of your current car.

What difference in fuel dollars per mile would justify that investment?

Joe accepts every silly notion of his handlers.

Reply to  George Daddis
November 23, 2021 6:04 pm

I’m not sure he really knows what comes out of his mouth.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Fred Haynie
November 24, 2021 10:33 am

Yes, if he reads stage directions off a teleprompter it is obvious he is not assimilating and understanding what he is saying.

John
November 23, 2021 4:27 pm

He has just confirmed beyond any doubt that he is a senile imbeceile not fit to run the US Government

The last person who showed such ignorance lost her head in the French Revolution

paul courtney
November 23, 2021 4:38 pm

Wonder if Joe’s people did the math by assuming cost of electricity stayed the same. I keep hearing the cost of electricity is going up, but those bright white house staffers know that EVs use “different” electricity.

PaulH
November 23, 2021 4:52 pm
JAW3
November 23, 2021 5:06 pm

Oil is so very fundamental to our economy that the Pol Pots in DC have no idea what inflation bomb is going to ruin over their election dreams for a generation, IMO.

Dennis
Reply to  JAW3
November 23, 2021 6:29 pm

Who was the US Presidential candidate in decades past who commented during a campaign debate: “It’s the economy stupid”?

Without a prosperous and strong economy there are no taxes to pay for government services and infrastructure.

mikee
Reply to  Dennis
November 23, 2021 6:54 pm

Clinton

John Endicott
Reply to  mikee
November 24, 2021 4:41 am

Actually it was James Carville, Clinton’s campaign strategist, that came up with “the economy, stupid”

It’s the economy, stupid – Wikipedia

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Derg
Reply to  Dennis
November 23, 2021 11:56 pm

They don’t need tax money.

H.R.
Reply to  Derg
November 24, 2021 4:19 am

Printing press futures are UP!

Gordon A. Dressler
November 23, 2021 5:20 pm

Good ol’ half-a-load Joe . . .

The average person in the US drives about 13,500 miles a year.

The mid-point efficiency for battery EV autos is about 33 kWh per 100 miles driven. So, a full year’s worth of driving an EV will require (13,500 miles/100 miles)*33kWh =4,455 kWh of electricity.

Currently, the average price a residential customer in the United States pays for electricity is 13.3 cents per kWh. So, the average cost of full year’s worth of driving, assuming it is based on charging at home, would be 4,455 * 0.133 = $593.

I know, I know . . . there’s the “BUT, I’ll be getting my charging for free at public charging stations” claim, or the “BUT, my employer let’s me access free charging stations in selected parking spots at work.” Seriously, I can only reply that this is a fad soon to pass . . . EVs currently make up only about 3% of the passenger cars in the US. Does anyone really believe electricity for EVs will be given out freely when EVs make up 10-15% of the vehicles used daily in the US??

And somewhat offsetting these indirect subsidies for EVs is the fact I have not even accounted for the electrical losses from converting residential AC electricity to DC electricity needed to charge the EV battery, nor the various parasitic losses from using batteries (ohmic heating loss, battery self-discharge rate, battery thermal control system and fault-control system, etc.) as a portable power source. All these inefficiencies combine to make every kWh loaded into an EV battery even that much more expensive effectively than electricity just coming out of home wall socket.

Anyway, to complete the cost comparison on the above basis, Joe asserts Americans are going to save $800-1,000 per year by not buying gasoline for their car, but he does’t mention that, in turn, they will be paying around $600 per year for electricity to feed their replacement EV, probably within the next several years.

Also, with the current rate of inflation and the cost of everything (including oil, natural gas, wind turbines and solar cells) going up, I’m betting that residential electricity rates will rise faster, on a percentage basis, than the price of gasoline over the next 10-20 years (even though recent “perturbation”data doesn’t support this statement).

Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
November 23, 2021 6:20 pm

Republicans that will be running for house seats are being given more and more campaign fodder. The progressives are riding a dead horse in their war against fossil fuel. The smart ones may save their skins by recognizing natural gas as the ultimate renewable that can be used to reach their net zero goal. Frack on..

MarkW
Reply to  Fred Haynie
November 23, 2021 9:06 pm

Quite a few prominent Democrats have already announced that they are retiring.

H.R.
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2021 4:28 am

Just conversed with the Mrs. on that topic yesterday, Mark.

My guess is that their polls** indicate they couldn’t get reelected regardless of how many dead people voted for them. So, it’s time to hang it up and get a cushy high-paying job as a lobbyist.


**The real unpublished polls, not the ones designed to influence voters

MarkW
Reply to  H.R.
November 24, 2021 9:51 am

If they retire, they get to keep whatever is left in their campaign fund.

H.R.
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2021 12:23 pm

Yup. I know that, Mark.

I’m figuring that the polls are so bad no one will give them any campaign money to keep. The usual backers will give money to someone with half a chance, and the DNC sure won’t be wasting any money on them.

No campaign money means the best bet is getting the lobbyist job or a few corporate board appointments before the other Dem “retirees” do.

Anyhow, I’m just giving it my best guess that they know they won’t be getting any campaign money. They have the big ‘L‘ written on their foreheads.

Derg
Reply to  Fred Haynie
November 23, 2021 11:57 pm

Get ready for more “white supremacy” talk from democrats.

MarkW
Reply to  Derg
November 24, 2021 9:54 am

The driver who killed so many people in Waukesha has social media accounts full of racist and violent statements. He was very, very upset about the Rittenhouse verdict.
And unsurprisingly, not a single one of the major news media thinks this motive is worth covering.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/darrell-brooks-facebook-white-people-violence

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Fred Haynie
November 24, 2021 7:27 am

Uhhh . . . burning natural gas results in emissions of CO2. This is NOT conducive to reaching a “net zero goal”.

Robert Hanson
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
November 23, 2021 7:10 pm

“1 in 5 electric vehicle owners in California switched back to gas because charging their cars is a hassle, new research shows”

In roughly three minutes, you can fill the gas tank of a Ford Mustang and have enough range to go about 300 miles with its V8 engine.

But for the electric Mustang Mach-E, an hour plugged into a household outlet gave Bloomberg automotive analyst Kevin Tynan just three miles of range.
Overnight, we’re looking at 36 miles of range,”

“If you don’t have a Level 2, it’s almost impossible,” said Tynan, who has tested a wide range of makes and models of PEVs over the years for his research.

Even with the faster charging, a Chevy Bolt he tested still needed nearly six hours to top its range back up to 300 miles from nearly empty — something that takes him just minutes at the pump with his family SUV.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Robert Hanson
November 23, 2021 9:00 pm

What’s more, as your battery ages its capacity diminishes, reducing its range, regardless of charging method. The ICE Mustang will always have the same range.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 24, 2021 10:38 am

Actually, that isn’t quite true. As the car ages, the compression in the cylinders will drop, decreasing the gas mileage. Therefore, the range will decrease, although probably not as much as with an EV.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 24, 2021 4:43 pm

Would the person who downvoted my comment explain any error of fact? Or is it like Jack Nicholson said, “You can’t handle the truth!”

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 24, 2021 5:57 pm

As the car ages, the compression in the cylinders will drop, decreasing the gas mileage.

That’s only partially true insofar as I used “always” colloquially, not literally. However, comparing the two vehicles and assuming proper maintenance, over the same time period, the EV will have a noticeably diminished range whereas the ICE’s reduced range is barely perceptible. Furthermore, one can always carry spare fuel for the ICE.

I believe your down vote was because yours was more quibble than valid correction. Don’t sweat the down votes, nobody pleases everyone.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Robert Hanson
November 24, 2021 7:44 am

In Japan, according to the IEA, EV sales fell 25% in 2020 and the EV market has fallen in absolute and relative terms every year since 2017. In 2017 registrations were 54,000 or 1% of sales. In 2020 there were 29,000 registrations equivalent to 0.6% of sales.

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MarkW
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
November 23, 2021 9:03 pm

About half their the “savings” from EV’s is due to not paying the road fuel taxes that are put on gas and diesel. Once EV’s get above a trivial percentage, governments will start figuring out a way to plug that hole.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  MarkW
November 24, 2021 8:04 am

In the UK vehicles have to pay vehicle excise duty (also known as road tax) as well as fuel duties and EVs are currently exempt from that tax as well. In total these taxes bring in over £30 billion pa to the UK government.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
November 24, 2021 10:35 am

“Slo Joe” is just half-fast.

willem post
November 23, 2021 5:44 pm

Playing Russian Roulette with Reliable Electricity Service to New England
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/playing-russian-roulette-with-reliable-electricity-service-to-new

THIS ARTICLES HAS SOME INTERESTING TEXT AND IMAGES, WHICH I COULD NOT COPY AND PASTE.

JUST CLICK THE URL

willem post
Reply to  willem post
November 23, 2021 5:49 pm

EXCERPT FROM:

WIND AND SOLAR TO PROVIDE 30 PERCENT OF NEW ENGLAND ELECTRICITY CONSUMPTION BY 2050https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/wind-and-solar-provide-50-percent-of-future-new-england

All of us have read about utilities remotely sucking on millions of EV batteries to reduce their peak demands, IN THE FUTURE, where all is NIRVANA, which we reach at ZERO COST, per Biden. Schumer, Pelosi, and other such Dem/Prog folks

Here is how it would work:

If 3 EVs originally drew 100 kWh AC from wall outlets, about 85.0 kWh DC would end up in the batteries, but about 1.5 kWh DC would have been drawn from the batteries to power various auxiliary systems during charging, for a net of 83.5 kWh DC in batteries. 

A utility drawing electricity from the EV battery, such as during peak demands, as part of Grid Load Shaping, would cause a loss of about 10%, due to 1) battery discharge losses, 2) converting the DC to synchronous AC, and 3) feeding the AC into distribution grids via a step-up transformer.

If 100 kWh AC were originally drawn from the grid, about 75.2 kWh AC would be returned to the grid, for a loss of 24.9%

Would the EV owners be properly compensated by the utility, including wear and tear of the EV batteries? See URL
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/poor-economics-of-electric-vehicles-in-new-england

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  willem post
November 24, 2021 9:55 am

Just wonderfully simplistic! . . . this concept is fundamentally based on the unsupportable assumption that all EV owners will diligently connect their EVs to the grid (via their at-home charging station) when not being driven.

It totally missed the fact that an owner returning with, say, a 90% of full-charge level may just elect to park his/her at a more convenient spot, and therefore not reconnect to the grid. Also, people are very likely to be out on the road (i.e., disconnected from the grid) at the times of highest demand for electricity; that is morning and afternoon, when battery backup for load-leveling is most needed.

Also, any plan of using grid-connected EVs to support the grid, at a round trip inefficiency of about 25% would appear to set humanity up for the greatest single waste of electrical power since the invention of the filament-heated electric light bulb (although cryptocurrency “mining” would be in a neck-in-neck race for this distinction 🙂 ).

LdB
November 23, 2021 6:54 pm

They greentards keep talking about these new jobs but I don’t see where they would come about except for a few install technicians which lets face it are pretty low paid. All I see is highly paid fossil fuel jobs being traded for less low paid jobs.

Jeff Alberts
November 23, 2021 7:48 pm

Let’s beat climate change.”

Do you really want that? Do you want the global climate to become static? Then we’d REALLY be in a world of hurt.

2hotel9
November 23, 2021 8:36 pm

Clueless? Meet stupid c*nt.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  2hotel9
November 24, 2021 12:12 pm

Cupid Stunt

2hotel9
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
November 25, 2021 7:25 pm

Oh I am stealing this, shamelessly!

vboring
November 23, 2021 9:09 pm

The electric F150 is going to start at $40k.

https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/

It’ll be great for everything except road trips. If you frequently drive more than 200 miles in a day, Tesla has the only charging network for you.

stewartpid
Reply to  vboring
November 24, 2021 7:55 am

I bet there will be close to zero of the $40,000 models built & sold … see the rest of the story:  The entry model starts at $39,974 MSRP (commercial-oriented). More-equipped mid-series (XLT) starts at $52,974 MSRP, offering additional comfort and technology. MSRP starting at $39,974 up to around $90,474.
So a nice one for 90,000 plus taxes etc.

2hotel9
Reply to  vboring
November 25, 2021 7:27 pm

Or actually carry any type of cargo. This turd can’t even replace my Dodge Grand Caravan much less a real truck.

Rod Evans
November 23, 2021 11:52 pm

Please tell me this is a made up story…..
Nobody is both that insensitive and that thick to imagine people struggling to find an extra $20 to fill their tanks with fuel, can ever imagine buying a new car, let alone a new hyper priced car that only works when the computer say…”yes”.
What ever you do, don’t ask any White House spokes person if shutting down oil pipelines and banning oil exploration on federal lands, might be contributing to the painfully high gas (petrol) prices in the USA.

biff
November 24, 2021 12:08 am

Honestly FJB

DonM
Reply to  biff
November 24, 2021 1:18 pm

He’s already …

He is just to far gone to know it yet.

Geoffrey Williams
November 24, 2021 12:27 am

Biden lives in a world of isolation with his lefty climate change controllers who are pulling the strings . .

richard
November 24, 2021 1:58 am

* “The average household income for EV buyers is about $140,000. That’s roughly two times the U.S. average. And yet, federal EV tax credits force low- and middle-income taxpayers to subsidize the Benz and Beemer crowd”

https://principia-scientific.com/electric-vehicles-on-collision-course-with-reality/

richard
November 24, 2021 2:18 am
griff
November 24, 2021 2:19 am

The problem is poverty in America…

Poor people can’t buy any sort of car

Andy Pattullo
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2021 7:36 am

If there is any logic in your statement it is well hidden. People defined as “poor” in the US often own cars, cell phones, colour TV’s, select Romic game consoles, a full set of home appliances and sport trendy name brand clothes. Not all of course but many. You seem to lament that some people in the US can’t buy a car while your many comments suggest you celebrate when they can’t afford fossil fuels.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2021 8:15 am

griff, that really is a pathetic remark and shows that you have no grasp of the issues that people have been raising on this thread.

I advise you to read the principia scientific article posted by richard above

MarkW
Reply to  Dave Andrews
November 24, 2021 10:01 am

griff doesn’t need reality. His knowledge of the world is limited to the editorial pages of the Guardian and whatever trash the BBC is publishing today.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2021 9:02 am

The poor in America and many middle class savers buy used cars in a very large market with tech tools to locate the ones they are looking for or corner used car lots for the very cheap ones. These buyers have been harmed by the regulatory drive for more fuel efficient fleets and the Detroit response to those mandates. The harm is when used car quality goes down and complexity/repair costs rise from things like turbos, VVT transmissions, and other new adaptations tested on hapless buyers. The next wave of this harm is about to come from the wave of used EVs with even higher repair and component costs. A dwindling pool of old reliable models will do a lot of damage to the poor and offering large EV tax credits to the rich will not solve that. The mechanics saying that rich people buy Toyotas and poor people buy Mercedes and BMW will take on new meaning with the unknown quality issues of new EV makers and their performance claims.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2021 9:58 am

The problem is stupidity in your average leftist.

The reality is that there is no poverty in the US. The poverty line in the US is defined as a set fraction of the median income.
The reality is that “poor” people in the US can afford multiple cars, big screen TV’s, the latest iPhones and can eat fast food multiple times a week.

The average “poor” person in the US would qualify as middle class in most of Europe.
The average “poor” person in the US is rich compared to most of the people in the world.

To repeat that, the average “poor” family in the US has 2 to 3 cars. So as usual griff lies.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  griff
November 24, 2021 10:44 am

And you would be an expert on the economic condition of America because you read the Guardian and Telegraph? You obviously don’t realize how foolish you appear to people who actually have first-hand experience with the situations you comment on.

Ed Zuiderwijk
November 24, 2021 2:46 am

Marie Antoinette. Let them eat cake. A few weeks later she lost her head.

Am I an optimist?

Shoki Kaneda
November 24, 2021 7:27 am

If Joe keeps digging, he may reach his bosses in China.

Ian Coleman
November 24, 2021 7:30 am

Here in Canada, 70 percent of cars on the road were bought used. The new car market is actually a minor subset of the car market. The luxury care market is a minor subset of the new car market. The EV market is a minor subset of the luxury car market.

What percentage of EV owners own more than one car? I’ll bet it’s well over 80 percent. You’ve got your Tesla for whipping around town, and you’re real car for when you want to leave the city.

I love how rich people almost always eventually let slip that they have no real clue or interest in how real middle class people live their lives. As President Biden has now done.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Ian Coleman
November 24, 2021 9:38 am

Good summary

+20

Ian Coleman
November 24, 2021 7:40 am

I am an old man now, but I live in Alberta, Canada, and I spent ten years working for oil companies. I met a lot of oilfield roughnecks. These were often men who had not completed high school. These were young (a roughneck older than thirty is in a minority), strong and courageous people. They worked long hours (like, sixty a week) and a roughneck who worked eleven months in a year would have easily outearned an associate in a successful law firm.

Of course, when you work on an oil rig, you are running a significant risk of serious injury or even death. Every roughneck I spoke to had a story about somebody he knew who had been killed (Mos oftent by sudden emissions of sour gas.) I knew at least ten men with missing fingers and toes. Working to fatigue around spinning pieces of steel is very hard on the fingers and toes.

Anyway, being an oilfield roughneck is for a small and gifted subset of young men There is no way the green energy industry could ever employ the same cohort at the same wages.

stewartpid
Reply to  Ian Coleman
November 24, 2021 8:06 am

What time period are u taking about for the H2S deaths …. I worked in the oil patch (geologist) from 1980 to 2010 and H2S deaths were extremely rare.
By the 1990’s accidents on the rigs were getting pretty rare … however we did have one operator who got caught up in the workings of a very big pump jack … I suspect a suicide since to do that by accident would be very tough.
The nastiest accident was a rig worker following the rig on a move down a dusty gravel road. The rig stopped and the worker plowed into the stationary rig hidden in the dust cloud and decapitated himself. Really a highway accident.

Ian Coleman
Reply to  stewartpid
November 24, 2021 7:31 pm

Actually, Stewart, I was speaking of the seventies. That was a bad time on the rigs in Alberta. Common accidents involved the winding chains for extracting the drilling stems, which would catch the thumbs of men whose job was to keep the chains from overlapping as they wound around the stems. Also, sour gas incidents were quite common. Or people would get their feet crushed. In Alberta at that time, the only industry more dangerous than the rigs was farming.

There were no rules at that time restricting worker hours, so crews would often work to the point of fatigue.

I surveyed wellsites and pipelines, so my contact with the actual business of drilling and servicing rigs was on the margins, so to speak. I did work on a service rig as a roughneck in training for two days, but was (mercifully) fired. I had no business working on an oil rig, because I lacked the strength and stamina you need for that line of work.

Brian J. BAKER
November 24, 2021 9:08 am

His administration will not survive Huner the Movie

Ron Waskiewicz
November 24, 2021 10:15 am

Biden is too stupid to understand that the workers who will make electric cars will be the same workers that used to make internal combustion engine cars that were laid off because of his stupidity. There will be no new jobs. Just increased costs.

Al Miller
November 24, 2021 10:24 am

100K bill for a toy car should help those in need who can’t afford fuel.
And with new “smart meters” your use of coal powered electricity can be controlled with the flip of switch.
You can’t make up the stupid (evil) here.

ResourceGuy
November 24, 2021 10:48 am
Sara
November 24, 2021 11:14 am

What else do you expect to hear coming from someone whose “brain” is mush and can’t even tell you which way the wind blows?

Gas at the pump this morning: regular: $3.759/gallon. The other two higher octane levels were $4.559 and $4.759 per gallon.

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Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Sara
November 24, 2021 4:48 pm

I can remember when the spread between grades was $0.10 per gallon! And, you cold buy 105 octane gasoline.

Gunga Din
November 24, 2021 4:46 pm

The origin and meaning of “Let them eat cake” is in doubt.
But Biden did just say, “Let them drive cake”.

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Tom
November 25, 2021 4:28 am

What a liberal idiot. This bum is brain dead. No EVs for me ever.

November 25, 2021 5:30 am

Biden said, claiming the economy would be “less vulnerable to these kinds of price hikes” on fossil fuels.”

But more vulnerable to price hikes on electricity.


thucydides
November 25, 2021 6:54 am

The push for EV is to make the source of fuel a utility company, which lends itself to centralized control.

Gasoline distribution is independent, and far more difficult to control.

Cash for Clunkers was Fort Sumter in the war to control our freedom to drive.

November 25, 2021 7:10 am

We have been producing clean energy upside down and reverse from hydroelectric for more than 138 years, and this is very strange!
Unfortunately, the world’s most prominent physicists have not been able to find the answer to a simple scientific question and have faced a great challenge to the world! They have even forgotten the scientific alphabet of fluids and their behavioral properties.
In this new scientific answer, all these wind turbines will be changed and go deep into the water, because the very high speed of water causes air from the surface of the water to enter the system and mix with the water. The path of air movement in this new power plant is the production of clean energy in the form of (U). In this route, with a mixed and high pressure flow, dozens of series and parallel turbines will rotate with great magnitude. Eventually all the empty boxes will be filled and then all the boxes will be emptied again using a simple scientific formula. Yes, we have clean energy efficiency at zero point, which is higher than the efficiency of nuclear power plants.(E> P + 1at)
This new invention was registered with the German Patent Office under application (No, 10 2020 119 467.6).

Peter Siebert
November 25, 2021 8:22 am

Seems another way to enforce the populace to buy EV’s. Keep increasing the price of gas until they succumb.

William Haas
November 25, 2021 2:41 pm

I cannot afford to buy one. I want the government to provide me with one for free plus a solar changing system with batteries so I can charge up the batteries during the day and use the batteries to charge up the car at night. The car must also include car roof solar panels so that it can be charging up while the car is outside in the sun. Included with the free car must be free lifetime maintenance including battery replacement with the federal government paying all relevant taxes. I am still concerned that fossil fuels may be involved with the manufacture of the car and its delivery to me. I also require that everything associated with the car and solar charging system be manufactured here in the USA which includes all materials and parts. I will need two of them, one for me and one for my wife.

Osa
November 25, 2021 7:03 pm

Huh, I never realized that electricity is free – silly me!

Thanks Brandon!

spock
November 25, 2021 8:43 pm

WTF idiotic logic is this? “My effort to combat climate change is not raising the price of gas, what it’s doing is increasing the availability of jobs,”

Shudong
November 27, 2021 8:37 am

If someone really has $112595, the one-year interest in the bank will be more than $800 – $1000! Biden doesn’t understand economics!