The Facts: Reporters Exploit Normal Weather To Fan Climate Fear

By Vijay Jayaraj

Exaggeration of weather events to sell climate crisis is not something new. In the case of a Sky News account of flooding in one Indian city, my own observations — backed up by independent data — are absolutely contrary to the news report.

Chennai — my home state’s capital, formerly known as Madras — is prone to floods, whose severity I’ve personally witnessed. In fact, the last time Chennai was flooded, I narrowly escaped by fleeing the city at the last hour. But, for me, that trauma does not make any more reasonable the media’s melodrama about climate’s role in floods.

The city is prone to yearly deluges from the strong Northeast Monsoon system during the months of October – January. This, coupled with poor planning and destruction of natural waterways, has led to an urban nightmare of flooding as a common event.

However, Sky News’ international Twitter report did not let the facts get in the way of its climate narrative. Standing in knee-high water, the reporter said, “We know that as a result of our warming planet, we are going to see more radical and frequent shifts in extreme weather – extreme heat to extreme rain.”

Except for a massive deluge in 2015, Chennai — located on India’s southeastern coast — has had a relatively steady amount of rainfall since 1969. For example, yearly rainfall variation (in the image below) shows that years of both intense and light rainfall have been common for the city.

Data Source: Climate Data Service Portal, Indian Meteorological Department (IMD). Image Credit: IMD & Vijay Jayaraj

Monthly data for the city also show the sporadic nature of rainfall in the city with many high rainfall months since 1969. This means that intense downpours are not uncommon in the city. 

Monthly Rainfall Variation since 1969 in Chennai
Data Source: Climate Data Service Portal, Indian Meteorological Department (IMD).

Speaking to Hindustan Times, a meteorological expert said, “These extreme rains have happened several times in the past too. It is not due to any climatic change. The record for the highest rainfall in Chennai on a single day in November is still 1976.”

The main reason for the flooding is the unplanned expansion of the city, which resulted in the encroachment of natural reservoirs and the blocking of key natural drains for rainwater. This is a well-established fact backed up by satellite imagery.

A 2020 report from the Indian Government, titled Assessment of Climate Change over the Indian Region, laid out a comprehensive analysis of various factors affecting the climate in the country. According to the report, a medium-range analysis of cyclone frequency in the North Indian Ocean Basin revealed a decrease in frequency of severe cyclones between 1951 and 2018.

The data may be surprising to the reader because the mainstream media — like the Sky News journalist — regularly claim that extreme weather events increased in this period because of anthropogenic carbon dioxide emissions. But the reality is completely different.

“Long-term observations (1891–2018) indicate a significant reduction in annual frequency of tropical cyclones in the North Indian Ocean basin.”

Figure: Annual Frequency of Cyclonic Storm (CS) and Severe Cyclonic Storm (SCS) between 1891 and 2016. Linear trend lines are indicated by dashed lines—black (1891–2018), blue (1951–2018), red (2000–2018). Also, 10-year running mean is shown by a solid-green line. Source: Extreme Storms, Indian Meteorological Department, Govt. of India. Published June 13, 2020

In addition, there has been no significant warming in the city since 2004. In fact, satellite measurements captured a global pause in warming between 2000 and 2020, a trend like that observed in Chennai.

So, rainfall, cyclone landfall, and temperature have shown no dangerous increase in the city of Chennai. This case of interweaving the theory of climate crisis into a normal weather event by Sky News is typical of mainstream media. Either Sky News assumed its international viewers were unlikely to research the real reasons behind the flooding, or the news channel is ignorant of the facts itself.

We recommend applying a healthy dose of skepticism to assertions of climate-induced weather events. You also might want to follow more responsible outlets for your facts, such as the CO2 Coalition.

Vijay Jayaraj is a Research Associate at the CO2 Coalition, Arlington, Va., and holds a Master’s degree in environmental sciences from the University of East Anglia, England. He resides in Bengaluru, India

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Tom Halla
November 17, 2021 6:19 pm

Blaming climate change for bad civil engineering is as common as it is deplorable. The storm drains in New York City are famously inadequate, but fixing the drains does not employ enough Women’s Studies majors, apparently.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 17, 2021 6:55 pm

Blaming anything on Climate Change ™ is the easiest way to avoid and blame or repercussions from poor government, and to get access to gobs of taxpayers’ money to boot. On top of that, you are lauded as ‘woke’. It’s a win-win-win.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
November 18, 2021 3:57 am

“Blaming anything on Climate Change ™ is the easiest way to avoid and blame”

Made to order for unscrupulous politicians and other bottom feeders.

griff
Reply to  Tom Halla
November 18, 2021 12:24 am

And in the UK where there is now river dredging and drain clearance in advance of predicted extreme rain and billions have been spent in the last decade on new flood defences we still see more and more flooding and flash flooding – the UK Met Office confirms that the UK is 6% wetter on average than 30 years ago and the number of extreme rain days has increased – observation, not modelling

Tony
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 3:33 am

No the UK is not 6% wetter.I have yet to see you post anything that isn’t a blatant lie.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 3:59 am

Is it getting cold there, Griff?

Redge
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 4:32 am

Mate,

One of the reasons we have flooding in the UK is past lack of maintenance/dredging

We’re going back to the future at long last

Richard Page
Reply to  Redge
November 18, 2021 5:46 am

Finally, though it might take some years to undo decades of neglect. At some point we’ll need to increase the capacity of the drainage system – it was designed to be the minimum effective solution when tarmac and concrete weren’t quite so extensive.

Rusty
Reply to  Redge
November 18, 2021 6:00 am

That was caused by EU directives. Remember the Somerset level floods? Silt was classified as waste and therefore it couldn’t simply be dumped on the banks of rivers.

I can’t remember the last time I saw a “gully sucker”, drains aren’t maintained and some of the road resurfacing and maintenance where I live is shocking to the point certain places always flood in heavy rain.

Andy Wilkins
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 6:13 am

A whopping great 6%?
Quick, Marjorie! Get my galoshes!

MarkW
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 6:53 am

These are not new projects, they are projects that have been delayed by decades due to green opposition.
Your lie about 6% increase in rainfall has been dealt with many times, but like the rest of your lies, you will continue to regurgitate it until told to stop.
1) Rainfall isn’t measured accurately enough to determine a 6% change.
2) Even if it does exist, it’s most likely the difference between the low side and the high side of the AMO.

meab
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 9:07 am

griffter, even the IPCC has low confidence in any worldwide increase in flooding. It simply isn’t happening. Your attempts to blame your (fabricated) regional observation (that is also not supported by rainfall data) on the very slight warming in the global average temperature would be LAUGHABLE if you hadn’t been schooled on this many times before but you have been schooled, griffter. You simply can’t claim ignorance, you’re lying. Why are you lying?

John
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 4:26 pm

yes thats required because you have built on flood plains and drained land which use to flood

cerescokid
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 7:38 pm

Griff

When are you going to get right with the world?

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Dennis
November 17, 2021 6:29 pm

I flew to London on Air India via Delhi during the late 1970s and experienced torrential rain at Delhi Airport, flooding alongside the runway and taxiing runways and people living in roughly built dwellings completely flooded out.

Vijay
Reply to  Dennis
November 18, 2021 1:53 am

Even the new airport (which is highly ranked) gets flooded with moderate rain. Nothing has changed.

Dave Fair
November 17, 2021 6:32 pm

With the continued collection of data on all of the various climate metrics that show no deterioration over time, the UN IPCC CliSciFi lies will be impossible to maintain. Satellites, radiosondes, ARGO and U.S. monitors with pristine siting continue to show no significant increase in temperatures, contrary to the CliSciFi climate models. Rent seekers will continue to lie, but data will support skeptic rebuttals.

John
Reply to  Dave Fair
November 17, 2021 6:58 pm

under legal advise most companies now delete any information longer than four years
dont worry the next thing will be for the IPCC to say any information longer than the legal requirement to hold for 7 years should be deleted as the science is now proven

November 17, 2021 6:37 pm

The media here in Vancouver can’t go five seconds without blaming the current flooding in BC on “climate change”. It’s nauseating.

John
Reply to  Justin Credible
November 17, 2021 6:59 pm

unfortunately here in Australia there are only two news items of importance
COVID
Climate change

but to prove here in Western Australia they still do news reporting they will report on a house fire in Townsville (4000km away)

Joseph Campbell
Reply to  John
November 18, 2021 7:58 am

Belly laugh (unfortunately) …

Waza
Reply to  Justin Credible
November 17, 2021 11:05 pm

In AR6 SPM, Figure SPM.3 | Synthesis of assessed observed and attributable regional changes, clearly shows WNA western North America having no increase in extreme precipitation.

Hence, flooding in Vancouver can only serve as evidence that alarmist climate theory is WRONG.

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_SPM_final.pdf

griff
Reply to  Justin Credible
November 18, 2021 12:25 am

Because that is exactly what caused 1 month or up to 2 months rain to fall within days.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 4:04 am

The only things alarmists have to promote their CO2 crisis claims are a bogus global temperature record, and seeing human fingerprints in every thunderstorm.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 6:56 am

Unfortunately for the griffs, it’s easy to document many instances of 1 to 2 months worth of rain in a couple of days, over the last few centuries.
Despite the lies of the alarmists, nothing unusual has been happening in the weather.

Dave Fair
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 2:36 pm

Random weather fluctuations within historical limits “is exactly what caused 1 month or up to 2 months rain to fall within days.”

DrEd
Reply to  griff
November 19, 2021 5:20 am

No matter how many times he’s told, poor griffy can’t distinguish the difference between weather and the climate. Climate is the statistics of about 30 years of weather in a region. Weather is what happens every day, and every day there are “extreme” weather events somewhere in the world.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Justin Credible
November 18, 2021 1:21 am

Has that RV lot fire been extinguished yet? Watching a video sent by a friend, I was thinking how fortunate that they were not EV buses!

Vijay
Reply to  Justin Credible
November 18, 2021 1:56 am

I’ve lived in Vancouver and visited Abbotsford. I thank God that global warming made British Columbia more livable for human beings. If Canada argues against warming, one has to ask them if they prefer BC being under the snow

Doonman
November 17, 2021 6:40 pm

Since climate is defined as 30 years of weather in a given location, climate can never cause weather events.

People who claim otherwise must by definition argue against cause and effect.

Dennis
November 17, 2021 6:50 pm

The dams will never fill again.

A reminder of past climate hoaxer predictions that did not take place, the dams have filled several times since, and the Sydney Opera House located on the southern side of Sydney Harbour remains high and dry despite the prediction it would be under water by 2000;

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/08/16/unsw-academic-repeats-tired-dams-will-never-fill-climate-change-myth/

Alan M
Reply to  Dennis
November 17, 2021 8:24 pm

Even funnier but just over a year on we have flooding in NSW

H.R.
Reply to  Dennis
November 17, 2021 9:49 pm

Dennis: “[…] the Sydney Opera House located on the southern side of Sydney Harbour remains high and dry despite the prediction it would be under water by 2000;”


Kind of a shame though. If flooded, they could put on a boffo production of HMS Pinafore.

griff
Reply to  Dennis
November 18, 2021 12:26 am

Well now the dams dry up every summer, then fill in an extreme rain event. so the average is somewhat similar -the actuality 2 extremes

Dennis
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 1:12 am

Published in the London Spectator in 1908, written by Australian Dorothea Mackellar, a member of an affluent family with extensive pastoral interests in Australia, poem written while staying in England about her home, in part follows;

One of Australia’s best known and beloved poems.

“I love a sunburnt country,

A land of sweeping plains

Of ragged mountain ranges

Of droughts and flooding rains”

Alan M
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 4:47 am

You twat, don’t you know anything about Australia? Oh that’s right you just have these massive brain? farts and post them

Richard Page
Reply to  Alan M
November 18, 2021 5:51 am

He’s science illiterate and delusional – all he knows is to regurgitate what other useless idiots have posted elsewhere.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 7:03 am

Filling during the rainy season and being drawn down in the dry season is what dams were designed to do.
I guess you didn’t know that.

Zig Zag Wanderer
November 17, 2021 6:51 pm

And yet, if you go on social media at all, Sky News is portrayed as a Climate Denial ™ Extreme Right ™ Hate-Spewing Machine ™ by all and sundry. Go figure!

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Beagle
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
November 17, 2021 11:51 pm

Zigzag, I presume you’re talking about Sky Australia as Sky UK is as bad as the BBC. I often look at Sky Australia to get a more balanced view.

gringojay
November 17, 2021 6:54 pm

Original Post has selective data used to prop up a contention. South India winter monsoon (north-east monsoon) data from 1900-1960 compared to data from 1960 to 2010 reveals O.P. choice of starting comparative data in 1969 causes an artifact.

After 1960 Northeast monsoon in the southern Indian peninsula notably saw a statistical reduction in moderate intensity precipitation events (classified as 7.6 mm to 35.5mm rainfall). Which coincided with after 1960 statistical increases in both very heavy intensity precipitation events (classified as 124.5mm to 244.4mm rainfall) and also increased extra heavy precipitation events (classified as over 244.5mm rainfall).

Logically rainfall events that pour 124 mm of water or more mm of precipitation without stop are going to be challenging to the region – whether prudently developed (ex: this weeks’ wash out of BritishColumbia road/rail infrastructure) or rustic.The charting of total amount of Northeast monsoon may be within historical ranges – but that data presentation does not reveal the way the rain has fallen in a varied pattern of volume (mm) precipitation.

gringojay
Reply to  gringojay
November 17, 2021 9:40 pm

Citation for above see free full text available on-line: (2018) “Characteristics of various rainfall events over South India Peninsula India during northeast monsoon using high- resolution gridded dataset 1901-2016”.

Vijay
Reply to  gringojay
November 18, 2021 2:01 am

This is the data available on the official site quoted. We have rainfall data even from 1870 for summer monsoon, from IITM pune. Imd site referenced above has data only from 1969 for rainfall in Chennai. If you can, please send me rainfall data for Chennai city. Not South India. But Chennai city.
vjxxvj@gmail.com

gringojay
Reply to  Vijay
November 18, 2021 9:41 am

I see a reference that it’s information used indiawaterportal.org 1901-2015 Chennai rainfall data. However, the cited link did not work and I tried the portal search function without success.

gringojay
Reply to  gringojay
November 18, 2021 10:00 am

Chennai data from 1901-2015 was supposedly a compilation presented in Figure 1 of Pushpa Arabinado’s report titled : “Unprecedented natures?An anatomy of the Chennai floods”; originally published in the City Journal in January 2017. Unfortunately the on-line version I saw did not actually contain any figures, just a caption (“Chennai’s rainfall data from 1901-2015 …”) instead of the content displayed as an insertion. I think the website of the Catholic Theological Union has the internet rights for this title and I do not have access to their system

John
November 17, 2021 6:55 pm

Vijay
Thanks for your informed Post
I find it is not only Sky News but also engineering organisations such as the American Institute of Chemical Engineers who now have taken to removing blogs from chat rooms if the person is not an Approved Climate Scientist (noting most climate scientists are not scientifically astute and come from a social area and not a technical basis)

Tom Abbott
Reply to  John
November 18, 2021 4:12 am

Censorship. Obviously, they can’t handle the truth.

Do American Chemical Engineers do their science the way the Hockey Team does science?

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 18, 2021 7:05 am

Most engineering societies are run by and for the politicians.

Zig Zag Wanderer
November 17, 2021 6:57 pm

“We know that as a result of our warming planet, we are going to see more radical and frequent shifts in extreme weather – extreme heat to extreme rain.”

I detest these science-deniers, deliberately contradicting the IPCC.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Dennis
November 17, 2021 7:19 pm

I’m not quite sure what point you are trying to make there, Dennis.

Dennis
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
November 18, 2021 1:14 am

The evidence that “science deniers” are in fact climate hoax sceptics, and for very good reasons including that climate changes and weather are natural events, Earth Cycles since time began.

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
November 18, 2021 4:18 am

“We know”

Sure you do. You just think you know.

But we know your “extreme weather caused by CO2” claims are not based on any scientific evidence. So, what you know is not true, it’s a figment of your imagination. Somebody steered you wrong. I think I know who some of those people are.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 18, 2021 7:09 am

You missed the quite obvious sarcasm.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  MarkW
November 18, 2021 12:36 pm

It’s not even sarcasm. The IPCC state that they can’t attribute extreme weather to Climate Change ™, and that any effects of Climate Change ™ will be mitigated by changes in technology and society. Anyone denying that is in direct contradiction of the IPCC, and that Ironically includes the IPCC.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
November 18, 2021 1:20 pm

The “we know” was said by an alarmist, not Zig Zag. I’m afraid you misread the comment.

Unless you think the alarmist was being sarcastic when he said “we know”. I don’t think he was being sarcasitic, I think he was dead serious.

Cam_S
November 17, 2021 7:03 pm
Rory Forbes
Reply to  Cam_S
November 17, 2021 10:36 pm

And as usual the Guardian’s opinion about this disaster, the ‘special’ heat wave earlier in the Summer and the arson exacerbated “wild fires” (once just called forest fires) had absolutely nothing to do with “climate change”. That’s because British Columbia’s several climates haven’t changed since the end of the LIA. What we had is a perfect storm of events, of events quite usual to this region every year … though generally spaced out over a few weeks and hundreds of miles. The difference is they all took place within a few days. This is what weather can do in this area.

BTW … I live here and have experienced it for nearly 80 years. I know people who have filled sand bags in the valley, and locally, going back to the 1940s. We’re surrounded by steep mountains draining into flood plains and valleys. There is nowhere else for the water to go. This IS the West Coast Marine Climate.

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Cam_S
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 18, 2021 7:27 am

The flooded area has flooded before. But now, according to The Guardian, it’s caused by climate change. Models say so!
As the population has grown over the last hundred years, so have the impacts.
– – – – – – – – –

From the Archives: The 1894 and 1948 Fraser Valley floods
In the spring of 1948, the Fraser River overflowed its banks and destroyed dikes. The flood forced the evacuation of 16,000 people, destroyed or damaged 2,300 homes, left 1,500 people homeless and resulted in $150 million in damage.
https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/from-the-archives-the-1894-and-1948-fraser-valley-floods

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Cam_S
November 18, 2021 9:24 am

Floods on the River Severn that is sourced in Wales and flows through England to the Severn Estuary into the Bristol Channel

1484
1607 many hundreds died
1770(February) cause was 2 months worth of snow that quickly thawed. This happened all over England and Wales. Many Severn bridges were swept away including 16 in the County of Shropshire alone
1818 Flooded 5 times
1847 River rose 18feet in 5 hours
1852
1947 one of the highest recorded floods on the river
1965
1968
1981
1989
1990

The Cathedral at Shrewsbury has records of being flooded on many occasions

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Cam_S
November 18, 2021 10:34 am

From the Archives: The 1894 and 1948 Fraser Valley floods

I was only four, but I remember that flooding very well. There was no TV (of course) but I went to the Saturday matinee every week and there was always The Movietone News. It was so strange living in a news story in real time. My father helped with sand bagging in the affected areas (thousands of people did). In the years afterwards there was a huge infrastructure effort to strengthen the Fraser River dyke and pumping system.

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 18, 2021 1:09 pm

You were born in 1890?
I remember you said you were old but wow!!
🙂

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Pat from Kerbob
November 18, 2021 2:15 pm

Yeah … how time flies when you’re having fun. It seems like half as long as it was. 🙂

Cam_S
Reply to  Rory Forbes
November 18, 2021 8:36 pm

The 100-year-old decision that contributed to Abbotsford, B.C., flooding
More than 100 years ago, a lake outside what is now the Abbotsford, B.C., area was drained to create lucrative farmland. Many say that decision is a big contributor to the devastating flooding.
(2:29 mins)
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1975292483959

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Cam_S
November 18, 2021 8:49 pm

Few know about that fact. My family had close friends with a huge dairy farm right in the center of Sumas prairie … between Abbotsford and Agassiz almost exactly where the washout is. The land is some of the richest in the world, alluvial till mostly from the Fraser river. I think it was a good idea to drain the lake. Life is filled with risks. It has flooded more times than I can remember, but farmers are a tough, resourceful breed.

Thanks for the link.

markl
November 17, 2021 7:15 pm

Yes, but not news. Something I’m finding interesting though ……. in the US the MSM won’t touch this kind of news but the so called “Right Wing” internet news will, but rarely does. I think it’s because their viewers aren’t interested in AGW.

Drake
Reply to  markl
November 18, 2021 7:39 pm

Why would we “right wingers” be interested in something that, even if there is any measurable human impact, one does not know if it is beneficial or detrimental?

We are also not interested in race, we don’t care what the color of ones skin is, only of the content of your character.

And we don’t care if YOU have been jabbed, or how many times you have been jabbed, only if you are SICK!

We don’t care if you wear a mask if you are not sick, but think you should not be out and about if you are sick, and know the mask will not help in that case.

And we don’t wear masks if we are not SICK and it does not matter because WE would not be out and about if we were sick.

Right Wingers are conservatives, meaning, we understand history and respect others rights privacy. It also means we can distinguish right from wrong, which the LEFT, in general, cannot.

Jon R
Reply to  Drake
November 19, 2021 9:23 am

You win today’s internet.

Congrats!!

DocSiders
November 17, 2021 9:19 pm

Facts ARE NEVER going to matter until and unless the Republicans regain the House, Senate, and White House – AND – insist that the Climate Activists get CROSS EXAMINED before wasting $50 to $100 Trillion we can not afford.

That requires repairing elections by making them secure and easily Audited. Then doing Audits on EVERY ELECTION. Not a problem if the system is designed for “easy” audits.

Every ballot must be counted the day of the election at each voter’s own Precinct (“in person” votes and absentee votes)…not at some unaccountable and unmonitored central facility EVER AGAIN.

Ideally, each Voter could view their own VOTES in the official vote Register (mini audits)…using a PIN number access system. And allowed to Photograph the ballot in the voting booth as proof AND RECORD of your votes (booth ID# and the assigned PIN# also in the photo)…or that information could be printed out for you.

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Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  DocSiders
November 17, 2021 10:59 pm

PIN number

Is that something you use at an ATM machine?

Brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  DocSiders
November 18, 2021 4:34 am

There’s one fly in the ointment: Some Republicans have been fooled and are True Believers in CO2-caused climate change.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 18, 2021 7:12 am

Fooled or bought, it’s hard to tell.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  MarkW
November 18, 2021 1:21 pm

Yes, it is hard to tell.

Drake
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 18, 2021 7:40 pm

Bought!

James518 Shanley
Reply to  Drake
November 21, 2021 7:20 am

AGW is a scam. As with any scam there are them who buy in not knowing it’s a scam. They are very difficult to deal with. Perhaps the facts will win out.

Waza
November 17, 2021 10:54 pm

Vijay
thanks for the article

As a civil engineer experienced in urban flood mitigation I find very deceptive how alarmists equate extra precipitation with more flooding.
its not possible without a quantitative evaluation of each catchment.

although I have not been to Chennai I suspect the following occurs.

  1. large storm events mainly occur in late September to early December.
  2. Events do not occur everyday.
  3. although a large event may last for 24 hours plus the main intensity usually only occurs for 3 hours max.
  4. the water courses rise after each event but the impacts of the storm dissipates within about 24 hours of the peak.
  5. thus I suspect the worst scenario for Chennai is multiple consecutive storms occurring before rivers have subsided from the previous event and not necessarily single large events.

so alarmists must be specific. Will Chennai have more storms, longer storms, or more intense storms?

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Waza
November 17, 2021 11:01 pm

Will Chennai have more storms, longer storms, or more intense storms?

Climate Scientology: “Yes.”

gringojay
Reply to  Waza
November 18, 2021 12:39 am

I see Chennai’s first officially recorded flooding was in 1903. There was additional flooding in 1918,1943, 1969, 1976, 1985, 1996, 1998, 2005 and some sector flooding in 2002, 2004 plus 2010. Then in December 2015 a notorious Chennai flood where urban areas had rain falling up to 35mm/hr (~1.4 inch/hr) and in outer places up to 60mm/hr (~2.3 inch/hr); the resulting 2015 event’s total rainfall in a “day” broke the 1943 Chennai record.

Vijay
Reply to  gringojay
November 18, 2021 2:04 am

I was in Chennai during the 2015 flood event

Tom Abbott
Reply to  gringojay
November 18, 2021 4:38 am

“35mm/hr (~1.4 inch/hr)”

That’s a lot of rain. I’ve seen almost an inch per hour rainfall during a typhoon in Vietnam and it was a torrent.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 18, 2021 12:38 pm

Pretty normal in the tropics in the wet season

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
November 18, 2021 1:22 pm

Yes, I know, but it’s not much fun being out in it.

Hashbang
Reply to  Tom Abbott
November 18, 2021 7:27 pm

I’ve seen 131mm in a one hour period which led to severe flooding in Townsville, Queensland in January 1998.

Vijay
Reply to  Waza
November 18, 2021 2:05 am

Plus, the illegal encroachment of natural reservoirs and drainages. That has been the main issue.

Drake
Reply to  Waza
November 18, 2021 7:55 pm

When I moved to Las Vegas, Nevada USA in 1977, there were roughly 415,000 people in Clark County, most of whom lived in the Las Vegas valley. The year before there had been a flood that damaged hundreds of cars at the Caesar’s Palace parking lot.

The county and it’s citizens decided to fix the problem and has been, for decades, working on flood channels, detention/retention basins, etc. During those decades the population in the valley has increased 6 fold, and flooding problems are greatly REDUCED.

Do we get rains that make roads impassable in limited areas? Yes. It is a matter of a cost/benefit analysis. The perfect requires infinite expenditures.

I have NEVER been unable to get to work or get home from work in the 40 years I worked throughout the valley.

Just remember the 7 Ps: Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

The left only has 3 Ps: Piss Poor Performance, as illustrated by Brandon!

Climate believer
November 17, 2021 11:51 pm

The annual variability of Northeast Monsoon rainfall over southern India has probably far more to do with the phases and strength of ENSO and the Indian Ocean Dipole than anything else.

Anyway, rather than throwing good money after bad at magic gases, the Indian government might want to consider a much simpler solution, and that’s to just put in some drainage system that’s fit for purpose.

Vijay
Reply to  Climate believer
November 18, 2021 2:06 am

Leeches and centipedes are common in every household over here. The caption on the video wants one to panic. The problem with Chennai is poor urban planning and occupation of natural reservoirs

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Vijay
November 18, 2021 12:41 pm

Hah! In Australia we’d welcome centipedes and leeches with open arms if we could get rid of the snakes and spiders we get when the rains hit in the tropics. And don’t talk to me about cane toads!

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
November 18, 2021 1:05 pm

Visited Oz in february 2004, was driving one night near Maroochydore after a thunder storm went over and filled the ditches, there were these white balls on the road that i started hitting, slowed down to see they were cane toads, then sped up, could feel the impacts through the steering column.
I did my part to get rid of a few dozen for you

Rod Evans
November 18, 2021 12:21 am

The old maxim of journalism still holds.
“Never let the facts get in the way of a good story”
The main stream media knows what sells, and good factual news is not it,
.

griff
November 18, 2021 12:22 am

Well lets see: Vancouver, cut off from Canada after a months rain falls in 24 hours. some place 2 months of rain in 2 days. Environment Canada called this a 1-in-100 year event.

Meteorological bodies have referred to the Henan rainstorm in China – which saw a year’s worth of rainfall in three days – as a one-in-1,000-year weather event. The rainfall broke hourly and daily records of the 70 years of collected data. Then we had the Hubei floods a month later…

The heavy rainfall in the south of North Rhine-Westphalia and north of Rhineland-Palatinate in Germany produced accumulations which averaged 100 to 150 mm (3.9 to 5.9 in) in 24 hours, equivalent to more than a month’s worth of rain. In Reifferscheid, 207 mm (8.1 in) fell within a nine-hour period while Cologne observed 154 mm (6.1 in) in 24 hours. Some of the affected regions may not have seen rainfall of this magnitude in the last 1,000 years.

The searing heat that scorched western Canada and the US at the end of June was “virtually impossible” without climate change, say scientists. In their study, the team of researchers says that the deadly heatwave was a one-in-a-1,000-year event.

That is in the last 6 months 4 separate 1 in 1,000 year weather events, all, scientists say, more likely to have occurred due to climate change.

and I could add to it a ‘Mediterranean hurricane’ bringing extreme weather to Sicily, flooding in New York, Turkey, Nepal and India well into the extreme level, plus record heatwaves in sicily, Greece and over a dozen heatwave events across N hemisphere summer.

Now go and tell me that conjunction of events within 6 months at those extreme levels is ‘just weather’ and nothing to be alarmed at.

Rod Evans
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 12:43 am

griff,
Your efforts to list unconnected weather events and then present them as climate, are on display once again.
Your tone and style falls firmly into the sensational, rather than the scientific side of reporting.
Long may you continue on your mission, because without people like you, revealing the propaganda methods in common use by Climate Alarm zealots, people might be convinced we have a crisis. Sensible balanced people might be taken in by your idea, that unique local weather events are in some way connected to global climate conditions. It is only through your endless nonsense do they realise it is all a coordinated hoax.
Keep up the good work it is much appreciated…:)

MiloCrabtree
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 3:07 am

It’s just weather.

Tony
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 3:39 am

Thanks to guys like you i know many who see through the lies and fearmongering by the warmists.They finally open their eyes and see what a hoax “the world is gonna burn” is.Keep up the good work,with every post you make,you are helping people see there is no dangerous warming.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 3:56 am

all due to a supposed 1 deg increase C???

sounds as crazy as any religious fundamentalist

Tom Abbott
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 4:43 am

What happened to all the hurricanes this year, Griff? According to alarmists we should be having more numerous and more powerful hurricanes because of CO2.

But the hurricanes seem to have disappeared, so no numerous hurricanes and no, more powerful hurricanes. Maybe CO2 doesn’t have anything to do with the weather.

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Climate believer
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 5:07 am

So tell us then what the weather SHOULD have been, according to Grifterology.

“all, scientists say,”….. do they…. do they really.

The fact is, you can’t accept a certain number of different weather events could happen within a six month period, on the same planet, and not be a sign of climactic change.

….be honest, you really wanted to say “unprecedented” didn’t you?

This has happened with much much lower levels of CO², what was the cause then?

As usual you need a history lesson.

Andy Wilkins
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 6:21 am

It’s just weather Griff.
There you go.

MarkW
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 7:19 am

A 1 in 100 year event is not an unusual event. The reality is that if there are a million places recording weather, then 10,000 of those places are going to see 1 in 100 year events every year.

As usual, griff demonstrates its ignorance of science, meteorology and statistics.

Pat from Kerbob
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 12:56 pm

Hey Griff, actually we cut Vancouver off from the rest of us on purpose, woke idiots that they are.
In reality, this sort of rainfall event has happened several times in the last 150 years, it is uncommon and well above average but not unprecedented.

As to “100 year events” as noted this has happened several times.

After the calgary 2013 “500 year flood” the U of C published a study showing that 2013 was only the 5th worse flooding of the Bow river basin in 130 years.
Oops.

Did 2013 cause the greatest damage? Of course, expanding bullseye effect, exactly as we will see with this BC flood once rational minds (not you) compile the data.

Claims to “unprecedented” and “record” BC wild fire season also takes 30 seconds to dispel, according to bc government stats 2021 was well above average but nowhere near record, where as 2019 and 2020 were ~5% of the 15 year average (15k hectares vs average of 350k). Is that climate change too, years with 5% of average area burned?

link does not include 2021, found that separately

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safety/wildfire-status/about-bcws/wildfire-statistics/wildfire-averages

Can i help you with anything else?

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James518 Shanley
Reply to  griff
November 21, 2021 7:39 am

There is a scientific explanation for the heat wave in Canada in June. The high pressure increased the density of the air thus increasing it’s temperature.

richard
November 18, 2021 6:35 am

“India is heading for its fifth consecutive bumper wheat harvest in the upcoming marketing year thanks to favourable weather conditions in the major wheat growing areas, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has said in a report”

https://www.indoasiancommodities.com/2021/04/07/india-heading-for-fifth-straight-bumper-wheat-harvest-report/

Some climate change they are having.

griff
Reply to  richard
November 18, 2021 7:35 am

Madagascar on the brink of climate change-induced famine – BBC News

‘Madagascar on the brink of climate change-induced famine’
Some climate change they are having….

richard
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 9:18 am

“As the largest island in Africa, Madagascar has a land area of nearly 600,000 square kilometers, but only 10 percent of the arable land is utilized. The potential of arable land development is huge”

” A sampling of rice from a demonstration field had just been tested to assess the yield per hectare and the result created a furor in Madagascar. The magic yield of 10.8 tons per hectare was 3.6 times the amount of local rice generated per hectare. The Malagasy were agog, wanting to know how this miracle happened.
The crop came from the 5-hectare demonstration base in the town of Mahitsy where Chinese agricultural experts had planted hybrid rice. The entire land had turned golden yellow with harvest just around the corner” http://www.mofcom.gov.cn/article/beltandroad/mg/enindex.shtml

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richard
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 9:22 am

“August 11, 2021

Madagascar is on course to produce yet another bumper vanilla crop in 2021/22. However, due to adverse weather conditions, market participants have lowered their earlier crop expectations. Following strong flowering in October and November last year, and new vines reaching maturity, a few early-season estimates pegged this year’s harvest as high as 2,500 tonnes. However, due to a combination of drought, heat and excess rain, the 2021/22 vanilla output is now estimated to reach around 2,100-2,200 tonnes, according to Mintec research, which would present an increase of at least 5% year-on-year (y-o-y). Last year, production in Madagascar climbed to an estimated 2,000 tonnes, from 1,400 tonnes in 2019/20”

Dave Andrews
Reply to  griff
November 18, 2021 9:44 am

I note that the report acknowledges that ” Madagascar experiences frequent droughts and is often affected by the changes in weather patterns caused by El Nino” and that one of the ‘experts’ consulted said the Madagascan Authorities needed to work to improve their water management.

Did you read it?

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Dave Andrews
November 18, 2021 12:44 pm

Griff never reads the articles it links to, nor does it ever address refutations.

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richard
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
November 18, 2021 1:45 pm

Griff, works under many different names across many sites, no time to get caught up addressing refutations.

richard
Reply to  griff
November 19, 2021 1:56 am

Griff forgot to mention that agriculture is not doing well in the Gobi desert.

Milan Kovitch
November 18, 2021 9:49 am

This is all nonsense

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Milan Kovitch
November 18, 2021 12:44 pm

Climate Scientology in a neat, succinct nutshell!

Fran
November 18, 2021 11:10 am

Just last week here on an island in BC, we had a flood. Lots of rain coupled with recent brush cutting along the roads led to lots of blocked culverts. Water had to go somewhere so it found other paths, some through houses. With piles of logs on the beach (industrial waste of logs escaped from booms mostly), water that could not flow to the sea filled the flood plain.

All this has happened regularly for as long as the oldest inhabitants can remember.

Gerald Hanner
November 18, 2021 12:04 pm

Anyone who has lived in South/Southeast Asia has seen daily events just like that.

James518 Shanley
November 21, 2021 8:01 am

Have review most of the comments and understand that griff does not understand Science. The heat wave in BC in June was caused by a high pressure system that compressed the air, when you compress air it will go up in temperature, simple physics, not too hard to understand

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