Greta Thunberg, Jacinda Ardern, President Joe Biden

Greta Thunberg Lashes Out at Deep Green World Leaders

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

Greens eating their own – can anybody ever be green enough for Greta?

Mocking Biden’s build back better;

Greta Thunberg mocks Biden’s ‘Build Back Better’ climate plan

Dylan Stableford·Senior Writer
Sat, September 25, 2021, 2:20 AM

Speaking at a climate rally in Berlin on Friday, Greta Thunberg mocked President Biden’s attempt to address climate change through his “Build Back Better” agenda.

“As we move out of the pandemic, many are talking about using this as an opportunity for a green sustainable recovery, whatever that means,” the 18-year-old Swedish activist said. “And world leaders are talking about ‘building back better,’ promising green investments and setting vague and distant climate targets in order to say that they are taking climate action.”

In his address to the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday, Biden announced that the United States would double its financial contributions to help developing nations combat and adapt to climate change.

“The fact that we are in a crisis that we cannot build, buy or invest or way out of seems to create some kind of collective mental short-circuit among the people in power,” Thunberg said. “And the longer they pretend that we can solve the climate crisis within today’s system, the more invaluable time we will lose.”

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/news/greta-thunberg-mocks-biden-build-back-better-climate-change-162003829.html

New Zealand Prime Minster Jacinda Ardern also received criticism.

Greta Thunberg takes another swipe at Jacinda Ardern’s response to climate change

By Stuff
2:56pm Sep 26, 2021

Greta Thunberg, the originator of the global School Strike for Climate movement, has taken a fresh swipe at New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern for a lack of action over climate change.

In an interview with The Guardian, Ms Thunberg said she can’t think of any politician who has impressed her.

When asked about Ms Ardern, Ms Thunberg said New Zealand’s greenhouse gas emissions haven’t fallen.

“It’s funny that people believe Jacinda Ardern and people like that are climate leaders. That just tells you how little people know about the climate crisis,” she said.

“Obviously the emissions haven’t fallen. It goes without saying that these people are not doing anything.”

Climate Change Minister James Shaw said Ms Thunberg is correct to say New Zealand’s emissions haven’t yet decreased.

“That is why the work our Government is doing is so important – and clearly we have a lot of work to do,” Mr Shaw told Stuff on Sunday.

“This is a marathon effort involving every minister and every part of Government.”

Read more: https://www.9news.com.au/world/climate-change-greta-thunberg-takes-another-swipe-at-jacinda-ardern/8606cc8d-4c73-4c0b-840b-493451825c60

For once I agree with Greta.

President Biden, New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern, how can you look your supporters in the eye and continue mouthing your empty climate promises?

Until you turn CO2 emissions in your countries around, we shall continue to print Greta’s harsh criticisms of your climate incompetence and utter lack of progress.

Just as soon as we finish laughing.

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Mr.
September 26, 2021 10:18 am

Greta’s parents (and all parents for that matter) should be telling their offspring –

“The only climate change you will notice in your lifetime will be Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring”

SMC
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 10:25 am

Oh, that’s not quite correct. There are some places in the world, Rayong Thailand comes to mind, where they only have 2 seasons, Hot and Hotter. 🙂

Vuk
Reply to  SMC
September 26, 2021 11:48 am

They say that Addis Ababa has spring like climate all year around
Google Addis Ababa climate (NOAA data), click ‘graphs’

Bryan A
Reply to  Vuk
September 26, 2021 12:40 pm

Be careful how much you laugh, it expels more CO2 than breathing alone

IanE
Reply to  Bryan A
September 26, 2021 12:57 pm

It’s probably a good/bad way to spread Covid. Come on pols ban laughing!

OldGreyGuy
Reply to  IanE
September 26, 2021 3:24 pm

Ours already have in Australia, I think it is the first rule in to politicians handbook, “Thou shall not mock the Dictator!”

Reply to  OldGreyGuy
September 26, 2021 4:04 pm

Laugh now because CDs…Climate Deniers…will be sent to re-education camps…to knock some climate sense into them…it’s the CCP method.

Alan Robertson
Reply to  OldGreyGuy
September 26, 2021 7:54 pm

Greta- “…the longer they pretend that we can solve the climate crisis within today’s system…”
—-
That should tell anyone all they need to know about Ms. Thunberg’s handlers.

Sunderlandsteve
Reply to  Alan Robertson
September 27, 2021 4:42 am

Spot on

Reply to  Vuk
September 26, 2021 1:12 pm

Same with San Diego

sendergreen
Reply to  SMC
September 26, 2021 12:36 pm

My brother called the two seasons in Venezuelan oil district he worked in “hot and dry”, and hot and constant rain.

Alan
Reply to  SMC
September 26, 2021 2:04 pm

Or Arkansas, where during the winter we can have all four in one day.

Steve
Reply to  Alan
September 26, 2021 5:39 pm

In Tasmania, it’s 4 seasons in one day every day of the year!

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Steve
September 27, 2021 12:46 am

I had no idea Tasmania was so close to Britain!!!

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Steve
September 27, 2021 3:09 am

and in Victoria all within 1 hr;-/

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  SMC
September 26, 2021 6:58 pm

In Wales there are only two weather patterns. Raining, or about to rain…

Vuk
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 11:10 am

I’m waiting for her to have a go at her own parents any time now, and justifiebly too.

Reply to  Vuk
September 26, 2021 11:46 am

Vuk,

You may not fully appreciate the situation . . . her parents were the one’s coaching Greta from the get-go.

What . . . you think she was knowledgeable enough to generate her “talking points” regarding climate change on her own when, in late 2015 at age 15, she first received world-wide attention for protesting “climate change”?

Also, do you really think Greta could get a paying job with her current skill set, if she really did “have a go at her parents” at age 18???

Vuk
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
September 26, 2021 11:58 am

They are now only ones left not to find themselves yet at the sharp end of her tongue, and they well deserve it. They should be behind bars for
psychological and mental abusee of a handicapped child.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Vuk
September 26, 2021 3:39 pm

That is unlikely if they are writing her scripts.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Vuk
September 26, 2021 7:01 pm

I’m waiting for her to have a go at her own parents any time now

I can’t wait for the Doom Goblin to start chastising herself.
“How dare I!?”

Is it just me, or does she look as though she’s just about to laugh and say “fooled ya!” in that photo?

Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 2:00 pm

There is some climate change at multidecadal time scales, but it’s hardly noticable for average humans. If you travel to another climate zone, you will notice significant climate change.

Mr.
Reply to  Edim
September 26, 2021 3:22 pm

Yes, and there are a lot of climates to choose from – more than 30 discrete climates around the planet, according to people who have studied such things for centuries.

We’re spoiled for choice as to which climates we wish to experience usual changes in.

SMC
September 26, 2021 10:23 am

Greta needs to go back to school. She’s in adult world now, get an education Greta, until then, STFU.

Reply to  SMC
September 26, 2021 11:35 am

Greta is the spiritual leader of the new radical climate movement, so do not underestimate her. The good news is that what they want is impossible, which is slowly becoming apparent. It would be bad if she were reasonable.

Reply to  David Wojick
September 26, 2021 11:51 am

. . . and the bad news is what will Greta have to say five years from now as the Earth has lost 0.5 C in average global temperature due to the on-coming equivalent of another Little Ice Age?

Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
September 26, 2021 1:53 pm

She’ll say climate change is worse than we thought, of course. Never stray from the narrative.

Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
September 26, 2021 2:08 pm

“what will Greta have to say five years from now as the Earth has lost 0.5 C in average global temperature due to the on-coming equivalent of another Little Ice Age?”

Probably that we should have done something and everything is bad because we didn’t do something and now we really have to do something RIGHT NOW.

Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
September 26, 2021 6:01 pm

“Damn! I should have just flown on the plane instead of doing that sailboat thing with those nuts!

Reply to  David Wojick
September 26, 2021 5:58 pm

You mean she’s their Dumbla Liema?

Alan Robertson
Reply to  David Wojick
September 26, 2021 7:57 pm

What they want, doesn’t have anything to do with climate.

Greg
Reply to  SMC
September 26, 2021 11:46 am

“The fact that we are in a crisis ….

As though declaring something a “fact” as a preface to you claims ever made it so.

Reply to  Greg
September 26, 2021 1:14 pm

Fact: you’re right. Really

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Greg
September 27, 2021 1:00 am

It’s only a “crisis” at the moment, but as noted before, they have plenty of other adjectives in the cupboard, chaos, breakdown, disaster, catastrophe, armageddon, emergency!!! They’d better put their thinking caps on, as they’ll soon wear those out just as they have done with “crisis”!!!

SxyxS
Reply to  SMC
September 26, 2021 12:11 pm

Greta does not need to go to school just as Biden does need no brain.
Both were selected as perfermors.As long as they can move their lips and read some text everything is fine.
Greta was “discovered” by a friend (or shall i say comrade tovarish)of Al Gore.
Oh amazing coincidence.
A year before she was “discovered” her mother became WWF ‘s person of the year.
(Another amazing coincidence as coincidental as bushs father and son and trudeau father and son becoming presidents, or that both presidential candidates 2004(kerry,bush) were members of skull and bones in the 60ies).
And before that 100 years ago it was,i think,her grandpa who already promoted global warming.

Her job is simply to brainwash the youth.Same with AOC.
And Greta is nothing more than a copy of Severn Suzuki from 29 years ago.
They even recycled the speech of Suzuki(except the ” i have no agenda” part as this would have been too obvious)
and even the backgroundstory (brave little girl travels thousands of miles on her own to save the world at the UN)was recycled the same way they recycled the ice age scares for AGW.
The chances for average joe to go to the UN and to get a chance to speak incl. a massive media presence is as high as for a 13 year old girl to go to a Hollywood party and to be admitted.The chance is zero but it still happened to the little girl that was raped by Roman Polanski.
The girl was not by accident there – it was planned,but not by her.

Reply to  SxyxS
September 27, 2021 8:29 am

Greta’s great grandfather Svante did not “promote” global warming, he did some of the early science on the relationship (ceteris paribus) between CO2 and temperature.

It was my understanding however that Arrhenius thought the projected increase in global temperatures would be beneficial.

Bill Powers
Reply to  SMC
September 26, 2021 2:44 pm

Okay. Everybody that gives 2 squats what Greta Thunberg thinks, please stand up.

Greta sit down!

Reply to  Bill Powers
September 26, 2021 4:06 pm

Greta will become rich from this scam…you will see.

Sunderlandsteve
Reply to  Anti-griff
September 27, 2021 4:47 am

Her parents probably already have.

John Culhane
Reply to  SMC
September 28, 2021 1:54 pm

That was really painful to watch her lack of education is clear, very naive and unable to articulate her cause. Her parents should realise that the left will eventually turn on her leaving her with no useful life skills when she no longer serves their cause.

J Mac
September 26, 2021 10:28 am

Another temper tantrum from the ‘climate change’ tyro? I’d like to hear what behind-closed-doors comments feeble Joe Biden had to say about that little ankle biter….

Rich Davis
Reply to  J Mac
September 26, 2021 10:37 am

Where’s my pudding?

Greg
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 11:47 am

Isn’t it time for my nap?

Dave
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 2:52 pm

If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding…

Rich Davis
Reply to  Dave
September 26, 2021 4:18 pm

How can you have pudding if you don’t eat your meat?

J.R.
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 11:24 pm

Would Joe Biden eat meat if he knew the green fanatics might find out?

Sunderlandsteve
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 27, 2021 4:50 am

Wrong, do it again.

Reply to  J Mac
September 26, 2021 10:38 am

He’d only be interested in sniffing her hair

Reply to  Matt Kiro
September 26, 2021 10:57 am

her hair?

Reply to  Leo Smith
September 26, 2021 2:00 pm

Yes, try searching for Biden videos of him sniffing girls hair

Scissor
Reply to  J Mac
September 26, 2021 10:41 am

There’s plenty of room for her in the #FJB movement.

Reply to  J Mac
September 26, 2021 10:56 am

In all likelihood, Joe would most likely wonder what ice cream flavor Greta prefers.

Reply to  J Mac
September 26, 2021 12:03 pm

I’m the president of the USA? When did that happen?

Reply to  J Mac
September 26, 2021 1:54 pm

I second the suggestion that Joe says, “Can I sniff her hair?”

Rich Davis
Reply to  jtom
September 26, 2021 3:38 pm

Except that he never has asked permission for his pervy fetish.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  J Mac
September 26, 2021 8:14 pm

I wonder what her hair smells like.

H.R.
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
September 26, 2021 9:15 pm

Ha! Posting under a fake name. Can’t fool us, Joe. Now get back in your basement.
😜

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  H.R.
September 26, 2021 11:11 pm

:0

Reply to  J Mac
September 27, 2021 1:47 pm

“Hey! You’re not supposed to bite my ankles! You’re supposed to rub the hair on my legs!”

September 26, 2021 10:29 am

Greta talks to Biden:
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Tom Gelsthorpe
September 26, 2021 10:29 am

An overindulged teenager “lashes out” at a country with less than 1/1000th of the world’s population, a remote, island country that derives an unusually high percentage of its electricity from hydro and geothermal — but that’s not pure enough for St. Greta?

She’s only a high school dropout, but elementary school students all over the world know a drop in the bucket when they see one. It doesn’t speak well for ANYONE that this latest tirade is taken for anything more than a case of derangement.

Mr.
Reply to  Tom Gelsthorpe
September 26, 2021 10:59 am

Also, she probably sees Jacinda as competition for the ‘Queen of Green’ crown.

Reply to  Tom Gelsthorpe
September 26, 2021 11:41 am

I take her very seriously. She is the spiritual leader of a mass movement that puts millions into the street in protest. The good news is this radical movement is wrecking the carefully orchestrated plans of the alarmists in power. I enjoy watching the internal green struggle. Go Greta! Hit them harder.

John F Hultquist
September 26, 2021 10:31 am

If GT wants to come visit the USA, I can show her a dozen issues needing corrective actions of greater importance than climate change. Actually, I do not regard the CO2-AGW scam as something needing action, there are dozens of dozens of other problems of interest.

[I’m not a fan of photos of people with silly grins. People are often told to exaggerate saying “CHEESE” when being photographed. They look empty headed.]

Cosmic
Reply to  John F Hultquist
September 26, 2021 12:15 pm

This photo could be on a movie poster for upcoming horror/thriller entitled simply…. ‘Greta‘. Hitchcockian twist on the devil-child concept. I know, I know…‘The Bad Seed’ and others have already been produced but there’s room for more. ‘Greta’, soon in a theater near you.

Mickey Reno
Reply to  Cosmic
September 26, 2021 5:40 pm

Her head spins around and a creepy voice says “your mother emits carbon dioxide in hell.”

bill Johnston
Reply to  John F Hultquist
September 26, 2021 12:37 pm

Some folk have a problem faking sincerity.

Reply to  John F Hultquist
September 26, 2021 1:59 pm

Let her walk the streets of downtown Chicago at midnight, any night, and see how worried about climate change she is.

Reply to  jtom
September 26, 2021 5:38 pm

“Let her walk the streets of downtown Chicago at midnight”
She’d be attacked by Jussie Smollett wearing a red ball cap & shouting, “Where’s my Subway?”

September 26, 2021 10:40 am

I still think it is cruel to use some poor uneducated girl with Aspergers to shill for greens. Some of them know better, while she probably does not.

sendergreen
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 26, 2021 12:46 pm

Yes, … as the adult life outcomes for “former child, and youth stars” is often abysmal. Too much attention, too much adulation, and too much luxury. And little to no psychological assets to adapt to the eventual precipitous end of all of that. The same day none of your “handlers” will accept your calls, texts, and emails anymore.

whiten
September 26, 2021 10:45 am

She is smart, isn’t she!

whiten
Reply to  whiten
September 26, 2021 12:07 pm

Not only far much smarter than Griff, but far much smarter than Tonny, and the … fodder, there, for the cannons.
On, or in the most basic ever foolish flavour ever to be considered… as validation of clarity!!!

🖕

🤯

Mr.
Reply to  whiten
September 26, 2021 12:35 pm

She certainly smarts, but that’s not the same as being smart.

whiten
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 1:05 pm

Sorry, but got to say it…

smarter… than most!

Richard Page
Reply to  whiten
September 26, 2021 3:01 pm

True but mayfly’s, termites, ants and the rest of the ‘most’ aren’t especially renowned for being smart. Being smarter than a mayfly isn’t, apparently, a compliment.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Richard Page
September 26, 2021 7:06 pm

I think whiten was referring to Mr. and his rather clever play on words.

LdB
Reply to  whiten
September 27, 2021 11:31 pm

Let me fix it for you …. Smarter than the average greentard but still very much on the spectrum.

September 26, 2021 10:45 am

People like Greta, Ardern and Shaw contine to talk about ‘the climate crisis’ as though it’s some well established, undeniable fact.
There is no climate crisis. They ignore actual data that flies in the face of their claims that the climate is getting more extreme, we’re all to blame, and tell us ‘the science’ informs their decision making.

All this nonsense they spout goes completely unchallenged by practically everyone (thank God for sites like this one), including our opposition here in NZ. Anybody who dares to point out the emperor has no clothes on is decried as some kind of denier, and meanwhile our government continues on its merry way wrecking our country.
‘Stuff’, the source of that article, have outright told us they will not allow comment in their stories from anybody who questions ‘the science’ on climate.
We may not be wrecking things fast enough for Greta, but our leaders are still wrecking things at a fair clip.

To my mind, this climate nonsense really is settled. All I want to know is how to get our leaders to change course before they do something we’re all really going to regret.
/rant.

H. D. Hoese
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
September 26, 2021 11:20 am

I watched on and off for several years the ships offloading blades and turbine parts on the central Texas Coast at Harbor Island where there used to be an oil supply company. Texas freeze problem no surprise, we heard early about the wind dying. Now there is an impressive bigger ship with four cranes that carefully unload the blades and then they are moved out on really long trucks.

Texas coast often has relatively warm winters. Let us hope, but again may not be another surprise. I tell my engineer friends that it is all their professions’ fault. If they hadn’t more or less kept gasoline motors going with ethanol and even much less so far with renewables we would have been forced to have already solved the problem for better or worse. They don’t appreciate it, but understand. It will happen, did before on a much lesser scale.

Reply to  Chris Nisbet
September 26, 2021 10:28 pm

Anybody who dares to point out the emperor has no clothes on is decried as some kind of denier …
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September 26, 2021 10:46 am

That picture from Greta in the article reminds me a picture of the Barock times, only the ladies painted at these times have more expressive faces.
I just don’t find the right example.

Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 26, 2021 11:06 am

this?

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Mike Lowe
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 26, 2021 12:30 pm

No – her handlers won’t allow her to wear lipstick yet!

Reply to  Leo Smith
September 26, 2021 1:32 pm

She looks to freindly on that painting, for the rest :thumb up:

Dave Fair
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 26, 2021 2:43 pm

Uh, identifies as a girl? A boy king?

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 26, 2021 7:08 pm

To me it looks like she’s just about to laugh and say “fooled ya!”

Rusty
September 26, 2021 10:50 am

Greta needs to be asked what the solution is. She must know because she’s telling others what they are doing wrong.

She’s happiest when complaining, but as everyone knows at WUWT the only solutions to the supposed climate problem end with billions dead.

Reply to  Rusty
September 26, 2021 12:04 pm

the only solutions to the supposed climate problem end with billions dead.

Yes! And also:

the only solutions to the supposed climate problem will come when the billion$ end.

sendergreen
Reply to  Rusty
September 26, 2021 12:48 pm

After one big public fail, did she not just like Joe Biden no longer accept questions ?

September 26, 2021 10:54 am

I might have a tiny bit of respect for Greta if she were as strident towards the PRC as she is toward western countries. The PRC is already the world’s largest producers of CO2. If they continue building coal fired power plants at their current rate, anything the US and NZ could do would not slow down the global increase in CO2, let alone reduce it.

If Greta could recognize that CO2 is a minor greenhouse gas (compared to H2O) and necessary for life to exist on this planet she might actually be able to focus on something important.

Mr.
Reply to  Brooks H Hurd
September 26, 2021 11:03 am

Her handlers have already schooled her in the “don’t mention China” dogma.

Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 11:23 am

Mentioning China takes the wind out of their sales in western countries.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 11:26 am

China is already communist, why would she complain about them? The goal is world communism after all.

whiten
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 11:32 am

Fake, Rich. Invalid… no matter how smart you may be or not… it still happens to be fake and not valid.. Davis!!!

whiten
Reply to  whiten
September 26, 2021 12:30 pm

You are a floater Rich, as far as I can tell.

Maybe me wrong, or whatever… but still!

Rich Davis
Reply to  whiten
September 26, 2021 1:16 pm

A floater? What does that mean?

whiten
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 1:29 pm

Gambling… with fate.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 6:02 pm

whiten was posting while drunk, again…

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 7:10 pm

A floater? What does that mean?

I always thought it was one of those that you just couldn’t flush…

Rich Davis
Reply to  whiten
September 26, 2021 12:54 pm

My dear Whiten! Not even a cheers!?

Perhaps you read more into my comment than was intended. It is Grrrreta’s goal (more precisely her handlers’ goal) to destroy our civilization and replace it with communism (socialism, fascism, whatever left-wing anti-liberty anti-market “ism” you want to call it).

This doesn’t mean that I am saying that all of the Green Blob are in it for building world socialism. Most are pursuing their own selfish interests, whether engorging themselves on subsidies, advancing careers and the like.

But with the Grrrrrrreta Show, it’s all about destroying capitalism.

whiten
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 1:10 pm

Rich, for better or worse,
still got to say, Greta far ahead, of you Rich!

Rich Davis
Reply to  whiten
September 26, 2021 1:28 pm

How have I offended you Whiten? I have never intended to do so. If you think my assessment of GT is wrong, I respect your right to disagree.
cheers!

whiten
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 1:37 pm

Rich… you have not offended me… far from it. 🙂

whiten
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 1:47 pm

WUWT does not comply fairly… any more… Rich.

whiten
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 1:22 pm

Very, painful, when “dear” got to be considered.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  whiten
September 26, 2021 9:22 pm

You are senseless.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 12:07 pm

I’m always amazed by how many “intellectuals”, who consider themselves bright, support socialism in one form or another. Don’t they follow history?

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 26, 2021 12:27 pm

It used to be chic to be a ComSymp or Socialist, sort of proving one reads and cares. But the people who espouse this love of Socialism have never lived in a Socialist/Communist country. I have Ukrainian friends who left Ukraine because they have no love of Communism or Socialism. I love to hear them go on about it and how happy they are to be in a free country.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
September 26, 2021 3:08 pm

I have several friends who grew up in the USSR. Without exception, apart from their strong affection for ‘Mother Russia’, they would never go back. Compared to most places in the West, it had little to recommend it.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 27, 2021 2:34 am

We have a large Russian/Ukrainian community here in Portugal. They came here to enjoy Western freedoms and they take full advantage of them. And they fully integrate into life here, speaking Portuguese fluently, English too.

iggie
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 26, 2021 2:29 pm

“intellectuals” love socialism because it’s a political system where they can inflict their policies and solutions on the ‘uneducated’ populace. A little more difficult in a democratic/capitalist society.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  iggie
September 26, 2021 3:11 pm

where they can inflict their policies and solutions on the ‘uneducated’ populace

In other words, hubris seems to be a common affliction of socialist “intellectuals”.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 26, 2021 3:03 pm

They think that the modern educated elite has enough understanding to run complex systems and industries without making the same mistakes of the past. They don’t believe that there will be corruption, both individually and organizationally. They don’t understand that it is the overriding or stifling of human ingenuity and industriousness that leads to systematic long-term failures of top-down control, whether socialism, communism, fascism, Marxism, crony capitalism & etc. They don’t understand that a remote elite can never understand the facts on the ground such that their attempts to control human nature are consistently failures. They believe that the ruling class is as honest and benevolent as themselves.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Dave Fair
September 26, 2021 3:15 pm

such that their attempts to control human nature are consistently failures.

That was Marx’ problem … he hadn’t a clue about what motivates humans (not to mention his utter lack of understanding about economics). To paraphrase Ronald Regan; ‘socialists know a whole lot that isn’t true’.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 26, 2021 3:04 pm

Fought with this question for years. I think there is really only one answer: greed.

Man evolved, as did many mammals, to live in family units. There is a ‘hierarchy of care’. Self and family, first, followed by friends who in some way contribute. The duty of care decreases as you get further removed.

Except for the gullible youth with no life experience, most everyone’s choices can be explained by that. If a person supports socialism, it’s because they believe it will best benefit them. Either they plan to be among those in power, or they fear they would not do well under a capitalistic meritocracy, and they want to be ensured of their ‘fair share’.

Even greed, itself, is an evolutionary trait. Greed ensures that the hierarchy of care can be continued in the future.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  jtom
September 26, 2021 3:52 pm

The duty of care decreases as you get further removed.

This concept is why governments are failing so badly with the kungflu ‘plandemic’. They have corrupted the “duty of care” beyond what our legal system allows. In effect, my duty of care to you ends at common courtesy and tolerance. It does not include making you feel safe. Socialists have some sort of mistaken belief in an altruistic duty, in which I must keep you well and happy … both spiritually and economically.

Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 12:19 pm

You’re right Rich. When she says, “within today’s system,” it’s all about overthrowing capitalism and free markets and replacing it with communism.

Reply to  Andrew Wilkins
September 26, 2021 11:22 pm

Yes, they say and believe that with a straight face, even though everyone knows what a great Green utopia China and North Korea are, and the Soviet Bloc was.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Rich Davis
September 26, 2021 2:50 pm

Rich, never try to engage the whittens of the world in rational dialogue. They are here for the fun of it and each has his own deranged method of disrupting productive Threads.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 26, 2021 7:14 pm

Chinese media responded by effectively called her an ignorant puppet, suggesting her autism and youth made her very susceptible to manipulation.

One can say what one likes about the Chinese, but they are not stupid.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
September 27, 2021 5:04 am

The Chinese were absolutely and demonstrably correct about GT.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Brooks H Hurd
September 26, 2021 2:45 pm

Greta likes the ChiComs because she mistakenly believes they practice Democratic Socialism.

John Garrett
September 26, 2021 10:54 am

The child needs psychiatric help.

Her parents really should be prosecuted for child abuse.

September 26, 2021 10:57 am

Well that’s what happens when you aren’t allowed to spank brats.

Mr.
Reply to  Leo Smith
September 26, 2021 11:09 am

And for all the dyslectic readers here –

“you can’t bank sprats” either.

(I once took a bucketful of sprats to deposit at my bank, but the teller said – Mr., you need to take those to the fish market. Just follow your nose”)

Where’s my coat?

whiten
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 11:22 am

😎

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 12:13 pm

And for all the dyslectic [sic] readers here –

I hate having to ask, but was misspelling dyslexic an intentional part of the gag?

Mr.
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 26, 2021 12:43 pm

Not really Rory.
I was informed by this –

dyslectic
dys·lex·ic  (dĭs-lĕk′sĭk) or dys·lec·tic (-tĭk)
n.
A person who is affected by dyslexia.
adj.
Of or relating to dyslexia.

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/dyslectic

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 3:34 pm

Not really Rory.

I was informed by this –

You were clearly misinformed. Using dyslectic is a misunderstanding of the conventions of a suffix following an X, eg.: ataxiaataxic

As adjectives the difference between dyslexic and dyslecticis that dyslexic is of or pertaining to dyslexia while dyslectic is dyslexic.
As nouns the difference between dyslexic and dyslecticis that dyslexic is a person who has dyslexia while dyslectic is dyslexic.

~WikiDiff~

Mr.
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 26, 2021 4:08 pm

Rory, as a card-carrying pedant, I bow to your superior prowess.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 4:22 pm

Careful where you use that word. I was nearly cancelled over on YouTube for calling someone a “pedant”. In this modern, PC world, words are taking on a dangerous life of their own 🙂

Mr.
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 26, 2021 5:40 pm

I know Rory.
At a dinner party, talking about what people from various little-known countries around the world are called, I innocently asked what people from Niger are called.

A lady there said – “that is uncalled for. They’re obviously called Nigerians”.

The room just got dumber at that moment.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 6:37 pm

Oh my 🙂 … exercising patience is requiring far too much energy these days – tragic isn’t it.

Reply to  Mr.
September 27, 2021 5:06 am

Sorry to reveal my ignorance, but exactly what are people from Niger called?

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 26, 2021 7:18 pm

Careful where you use that word. I was nearly cancelled over on YouTube for calling someone a “pedant”. In this modern, PC world, words are taking on a dangerous life of their own

It’s an especially dangerous word to use if your are dyslexic…

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 26, 2021 9:08 pm

Yes indeed … ‘therein be dragons

Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 27, 2021 2:13 pm

Careful where you use that word. I was nearly cancelled over on YouTube for calling someone a “pedant”. In this modern, PC world, words are taking on a dangerous life of their own

Using the word “pedant” is OK with me.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Gunga Din
September 27, 2021 2:51 pm

Using the word “pedant” is OK with me.

Are their any near homophones you can think of that have an entirely different meaning?

Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 27, 2021 4:30 pm

It would seem that meaning is in the ear of the beholder anymore.
(I remember a few years ago that someone used the word “niggardly” correctly and in the right context.
He was crucified for it by the usual groups looking for a reason to be offendex … er… offended. 😎

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Gunga Din
September 27, 2021 5:25 pm

In reality, meaning is a combination of the formal, dictionary definition combined with context and inference. I well remember several incidents of people using “ni**ardly” properly and getting the same reaction you mentioned. It’s almost an archaic word now. It people mean stingy they say stingy.

Sadly; the current PC attitude is: their right to take offense supersedes your right to speak, regardless how correct. Feelings are now more powerful than anything else … the law, science or reason itself.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 28, 2021 4:34 pm

“To offend is indefensible!” no matter how innocent the intention of the speaker or the meaning of the words used.

Reminds me of, “ I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I’m not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant”.Or, paraphrase:
“ I know you think you understand what you thought I said but I’m not sure you realize that what you choose to be offended by is not what I meant”

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Gunga Din
September 28, 2021 5:12 pm

There you go … got it in one! What concerns me is that judges are actually going for this nonsense. “Misgender” some dude, because he’s got a beard, chest hair and a voice deeper than James Earl Jones and the judge throws the book at you because the dude is “transitioning” and his feewing were hurt … or it embarrassed him. Since when do judges get to rule on matters of science? “The “dude” is running a scam here, judge.”

Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 26, 2021 2:11 pm

Whoever came up with the spelling for dyslexic was a sadist.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  TonyG
September 26, 2021 3:41 pm

No one “came up with” the spelling. It merely follows a convention for words ending in ‘X’ … like: ataxiaataxic … paradox — paradoxical

Blame English for adopting so many foreign words.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 26, 2021 7:23 pm

Blame English for adopting so many foreign words.

One could argue that English is just foreign words. The main difference from other languages is that the borrowing was from so many very different languages.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 26, 2021 9:05 pm

Chomsky argued that English is a “Creole language”, a language ‘invented’ by children and used as their native language. It’s a form that no single group can claim … excepting the children. You’re right, they pieced it together from a wide selection of “parts”, refining, modernizing and improving it by removing uncooperative inflection, clumsy and unnecessary syntax and streamlining many spellings. While the literate adults were living in a virtual ‘Tower of Babel’, the kids spoke their own lingua franca.

The only real problem with English was that it was such a cooperative, easy language to use, it went on absorbing new words via the original route. Each new addition reacquired its own troublesome “mannerisms” … not to mention new conventions to suit each new addition. Kids have little trouble with it until the adults misunderstand the rules.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 27, 2021 5:07 am

I’ve heard t said that English is the easiest language to speak and write badly, but the most difficult to do so well.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Graemethecat
September 27, 2021 10:54 am

That’s pretty much it in a nut shell.

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 27, 2021 7:49 am

“Not only does the English Language borrow words from other languages, it sometimes chases them down dark alleys, hits them over the head, and goes through their pockets”

Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 27, 2021 7:47 am

I’m aware of that, Rory. It was a joke, one used often around my house. My wife is dyslexic.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  TonyG
September 27, 2021 10:50 am

I gathered that … but as Mr. suggested I can’t resist the opportunity to be pedantic. And alas … my irony font appears to be broken (and comes across as smart ass).

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 26, 2021 7:16 pm

was misspelling dyslexic an intentional part of the gag?

Why is ‘dyslexic’ so difficult to spell?

Why is ‘lisp’ so difficult to say if you have one?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 27, 2021 10:51 am

Good questions … but I’m unthertain of the anther.

Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 27, 2021 2:33 pm

As a comedian once queried, “Why isn’t ‘phonics’ spelled phonetically?”

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 1:54 pm

That’s one of those spazy croonerisms.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
September 26, 2021 7:21 pm

That’s one of those spazy croonerisms.

My favourite us Cupid Stunt, a wonderful character created by the late great Kenny Everett.

Mr.
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 26, 2021 7:50 pm

And cunning stunts.
I can’t wait for Joe Biden to try that on his teleprompter.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Mr.
September 26, 2021 9:10 pm

Whenever anyone mentions Biden’s “unique” speaking style, my sympathy goes out to the poor guy trying to sign it for the hearing impaired.

Reply to  Rory Forbes
September 27, 2021 2:42 pm

Well, anyone that thinks a Biden speech makes sense was deaf and dumb to begin with.
(Apologies to those who are physically deaf or dumb.)

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Gunga Din
September 27, 2021 2:54 pm

That was sort of my point. He was never a great speaker. Now it’s just gibberish.

whiten
September 26, 2021 10:58 am

There is consequences, to be considered … with approval, regardless of clause of waiting.

Choose wisely… please…monkeys! 🙉

🖕

Richard Page
Reply to  whiten
September 26, 2021 3:07 pm

The coincidence of 12 monkeys and covid seems to have passed you by.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Richard Page
September 26, 2021 7:23 pm

whiten does seem more and more like a bot most of the time

H.R.
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
September 26, 2021 10:03 pm

Definitely tunks the Fluring test, as far as I can see.

September 26, 2021 11:04 am

Greta is quoted as stating:

“As we move out of the pandemic . . .”

Ahhh . . . the ignorance of an 18 year old child.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
September 26, 2021 12:30 pm

Well, Sweden, Denmark, and Norway have decided to just live with Covid, another upper respiratory virus like colds and influenza. So they are moving away from the pandemic nonsense. I fervently hope the rest of Europe will follow suit.

Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
September 26, 2021 2:17 pm

And how about multi-culturalism? That isn’t turning out so well.

Don
September 26, 2021 11:09 am

She’s like the girl in The Crucible “you’re a witch” and “you’re a witch ” and ” you’re a witch “

September 26, 2021 11:12 am

The best thing Biden could do is set up a charity to fund Greta going to study for an Engineering degree, or one in the relatively uncorrupted fields of science, as far away from politics and global warming as can be found.

At 18, she has already missed out on far too much education.

September 26, 2021 11:30 am

The greens have a civil war on their hands. Radicals versus moderates. Greta is a major spiritual leader of the radicals. See my:
https://www.cfact.org/2019/09/28/is-climate-alarmism-tearing-itself-apart/
Now two years old.

With luck this war will paralyze COP26, just as it did COP25.

Nick B
September 26, 2021 11:36 am

I think she is smart girl and don’t really care about climate.
It was an article recently that Greta donate $100k to something (don’t remember) from her own saved money.
My kids don’t have that sort of pocket money.

Richard Page
Reply to  Nick B
September 26, 2021 3:10 pm

I doubt very much it was her own saved money. Her handlers set up the ‘Greta Thunberg Foundation’ a few years ago so she can make these personal empty gestures using other people’s money.

September 26, 2021 11:47 am

Poor Greta, and likewise derogators, they (her best friends) simply do not know what is going on :
B3W – G7’s “Build Back Better World” is something far beyond their ken, yet in your face in plain sight.
This is the Quad statement (US,UK,Oz,India,…) against China’s BRI – a serious development program, in fact the largest of all history!
Strange how the Greta-crowd and the high finance crowd set a pre-established harmony, entirely arbitrary, tattered from previous failed ambitions (MacKinder) while the world moves on.

Rud Istvan
September 26, 2021 11:56 am

Mocking greenies is an effective tactic. Greta makes it easy.

whiten
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 26, 2021 12:36 pm

Greata is far far much smarter than you, silly stupid…. Farm boy… Rud!.

Believe it or not… faithless×××!!!!!

Reply to  whiten
September 27, 2021 2:48 pm

You just posited an hypothesis.
Any evidence?
She hasn’t shown any.
Is the evidence Mann’s emails?

LdB
Reply to  whiten
September 27, 2021 11:36 pm

Greata …. is that like a person who Greets you?

You probably need to lay off the booze when posting.

John K. Sutherland
September 26, 2021 11:58 am

Scoldilocks is always good for a larf. Single handedly, this dysfunctional twerp has ended the educational prospects and aspirations of so many children, and has influenced too many of the morons in positions of power.

Cosmic
September 26, 2021 12:03 pm

Dang she is evil looking. Why does anybody give her the time of day including this site?

John Bell
September 26, 2021 12:15 pm

I bet Greta has not changed her life style, heck no, as long as she is scolding every one else, she gets off the hook.

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