Guest essay by Eric Worrall
In 2019 WUWT celebrated the 30th anniversary of the 1989 10 years to save the world UN climate emergency declaration. UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres is showing real determination to keep this proud tradition alive, by escalating the emergency to a “code red”.
Landmark United Nations report finds the world is running out of time to slow down climate change, humans ‘unequivocally’ to blame
Nina Chestney and Andrea Januta
UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres has described the latest report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change as a ‘code red for humanity’.
The report released on Monday warns the world is dangerously close to runaway warming – and that humans are “unequivocally” to blame.
Already, greenhouse gas levels in the atmosphere are high enough to guarantee climate disruption for decades if not centuries, the scientists conclude.
The UN chief urged an immediate end to coal energy and other high-polluting fossil fuels.
“The alarm bells are deafening,” Guterres said in a statement. “This report must sound a death knell for coal and fossil fuels, before they destroy our planet.”
…Read more: https://7news.com.au/weather/climate-change/code-red-for-humanityguterres-c-3637453
The 1989 climate emergency promised entire nations would be engulfed by rising seas by the year 2000.
U.N. Predicts Disaster if Global Warming Not Checked
PETER JAMES SPIELMANN June 30, 1989
UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.
Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.
He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.
As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday.
Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study.
″Ecological refugees will become a major concern, and what’s worse is you may find that people can move to drier ground, but the soils and the natural resources may not support life. Africa doesn’t have to worry about land, but would you want to live in the Sahara?″ he said.
…Read more: https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0 (PDF backup)
Interestingly it looks like the AP digital copy of the 1989 warning has been damaged, the title is missing when I view it. Possibly someone tried to delete it, and hit the wrong button.
I have to say Guteres has been a little selfish with his use of language, and left a real head scratcher for the organisers of the next COP conference. I mean, how do you top a “code red”?
Yeah, and all those countries like The Maldives located on coral atolls are growing, not sinking.
Like shooting fish in a barrel.
If rising sea levels and a warming kill off coral reefs, then the planet would have wiped out ALL of the coral reefs many thousands of years ago. And yet, they persist!
The Great Barrier Reef had its water temperature measured in a scientific survey in 1871. Today,, the sea temperatures are the same. No change.. So much for red code threats. How much science do you need? See Dr Bill Johnston’s blog named bomwatch. Geoff S
The cooling only stopped in 1975. They were making outrageous claims like that on the basis of just 15 “trends”?
Just proves it was lies from the very start.
So far we haven’t lost the first atol.
In some ways it’s worse than that, the ‘pre-industrial’ period they use as a baseline was during one of the coldest periods in the last millenium. The little ice age really only stopped around 1850, and the temperature was returning to the current interglacial during our modern period. We are still within the holocene ice age, and well within normal parameters for our planetary environment. Many of the glaciers melting today in Europe were seen as a catastrophic (or even diabolical) event when they grew to the current extents during that little ice age, to the point of exorcisms to try to stop them. Humans, however, enjoy the ‘catastrophe’ and ‘original sin’ ideas far too much. ‘Saving the world’ is equally attractive to those who want power. And ‘how dare you question’? Adding all that together is far too akin to a modern cult.
It was actually the coldest period on the planet since the end of the last glacial period.
The UN: the same people who stood silently by while China spread a deadly virus around the world. They are all scoundrels.
I have come to the conclusion that the IPCC, UN are pure cancer… I was watching Australian sky news, they give a “climate” report, today they stated with proof, that brazil had snow, new zealand has seen massive snow fall, Europe as well. After reading that “the world will end in 11 years” John jerry owning 2 homes, 12 cars and 2 Diesel powered yachts & Obama “the seas are rising” owing two mansions at sea level, I have realized the massive lies and con of the climate tax con artists.. Not forgetting greta being their lead scientist 😐
How DARE you!
Ditto. Unfortunately, much of the population believes the opposite — thanks to propaganda — and Greta. While they (the Left) tell us that we must suffer in order to save the planet, they instead wine and dine … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtBT3M-RIZ0
‘lead’ as in the base metal?
It’s long past time for the United Nations to go the way of the League of Nations.
NZ had widespread power cuts last night due to high demand brought on by the _cold_ weather. It seems that our power grid maxed out.
Global warming, my arse.
Oh, and the dear leader wants to shut down our coal-fired power station and have us drive about in EVs. That sort of talk should be criminalised because it’s going to result in deaths.
The “Dear leader” is operating purely on an appeal to emotions … completely devoid of basic logic. Nothing rational will come from the New Zealand PM. Nobody who believes that socialism is a rational alternative to proper government is of sound mind.
Earth started a new cooling period circa 2020, as we predicted in 2002.
Big fail for the phony global warming alarmists.
ANTARCTIC BLAST DELIVERS FREEZING LOWS, RARE SNOWS, AND POWER OUTAGES ACROSS NEW ZEALAND
August 9, 2021 Cap Allon
More than 20,000 households are understood to be without power after high winds brought down lines and freezing weather saw usage surge beyond generation capacity.
YESTERDAY, DURING THE HEIGHT OF SUMMER, GREENLAND GAINED ENOUGH MASS TO BURY CENTRAL PARK UNDER 2,200+ FEET OF ICE
August 9, 2021 Cap Allon
…if you want proof of mainstream media obfuscation and agenda-driving drivel, you need look no further than their reporting of the Greenland ice sheet.
Excerpt from my paper
CLIMATE CHANGE, COVID-19, AND THE GREAT RESET Update 1d
“Rode and Fischbeck, professor of Social & Decision Sciences and Engineering & Public Policy, collected 79 predictions of climate-caused apocalypse going back to the first Earth Day in 1970. With the passage of time, many of these forecasts have since expired; the dates have come and gone uneventfully. In fact, 48 (61%) of the predictions have already expired as of the end of 2020.”
Climate doomsters have a perfect NEGATIVE predictive track record – every very-scary climate prediction, of the ~80 they have made since 1970, has FAILED TO HAPPEN.
Fully 48 of these predictions expired at the end of 2020. Never happened! Never will!
What are the odds at 50:50 per prediction?
3.6*10^-15 = 0.0000000000000036
That is one in 281 Trillion!
There is a powerful logic that says no rational person or group could be this wrong, this utterly obtuse, for this long; they followed a corrupt agenda, and they lied again and again.
The ability to predict is the best objective means of assessing scientific competence, and the global warming alarmists have NO predictive track record – they have been 100% wrong about everything and nobody should believe these fraudsters – about anything!
Greta appealed to the schoolies with a new cause for them to get behind and an excuse for a day off school .
Never mind the non-understanding of facts , Greta was seized upon by the hierarchy to promote their cause and brainwash the future voters and ‘leaders’ of the first world .
Code reds ok. Code red + is worse. Ask Boris about traffic light systems!
I thought code brown was a more immediate danger than code red?
To answer ” . .how do yo top a Code Red . .?
. . well, how about ” Double Secret Probation CODE RED . .” 🙂
Lawyer to UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres: “Did you order a code red?”
UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres: “YOU’RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID!”
Was wondering when somebody would make that connection. 😀
After Code Red comes Code Plaid
After code red comes code ‘red in the face’.
Spaceballs – They’ve gone into plaid – YouTube
Darn, you beat me to it. Oh well.
I vote for code fuchsia. After that, I don’t know.
The UN has no legal basis for being a ‘world government’. It is supposed to be a place where people prevent wars happening through diplomacy. It has zero mandate to govern anyone.
When did this bunch of nominees think they were elected politicians?
Yes, Rhys, THAT is the point!
And there is a globalist mood out there proposing that countries surrender parts of their sovereignity to bureaucrats of the multitude of tentacles of the monster. (E.g.: their move to try to make Amazonia a world resource and thus taking it from Brazil, thanks to Bolsonaro for the clear and definitive “No!”; or, respecting COVID-19, the proposal to give to the WHO the power to dictate public health rules over and above the constitutions of the countries).
What they don’t understand is that a Global Government won’t be anything like the one in Star Trek films. Rather it will be a lot more like the Empire in Star Wars, corrupt and despotic.
It might be somewhat akin to that planet in Star Trek where it was mandated that they all had to go through a suicide ritual at age 40.
The UN is collaborating with China to sneak that one in – except for them of course.
I think you are confusing the star trek episode “A taste of Armageddon” where they visit a planet whose inhabitants have been at war with a neighboring planet for over 500 years. They can find no damage nor evidence of destruction but soon learn that their war is essentially a war game, where each planet attacks the other in a computer simulation with the tabulated victims voluntarily surrendering themselves for execution after the fact. With the movie Logan’s Run where you go through a suicide ritual (call “carousel”) at age 30, aka “last day” (or be hunted down and killed by the Sandmen if you choose to run away from your “last day”).
No, I was only confused (actually poor-memoried) by the age. It was 60 not 40:
I think Deanna Troi’s annoying mother went off and did it with him. Kinda like going into a hospital in the UK.
Aahhh, I was thinking original Trek and completely forgot about that episode of TNG (I’ve probably not watched that particular episode since it first aired)
correct , wrong series, it was a Star Trek Next genereation episode, had david ogden siders in it but the age was 62 when they had to die
Been saying for years that the elites have been yearning for that great worldwide emergency that would unite everyone and finally create that Star Trek utopian future. If they have to lie, cheat, engineer and force it, no matter. They know what is best.
Agree, but they will take as much power as we give them.
Or will they usurp whatever power they need?
“It is supposed to be a place where people prevent wars happening through diplomacy”
UK not done very well at that either !!
“…where people prevent wars…”
It was 12 ,maybe 15, years ago: “The UN – 146 wars and counting”.
This has been an entertaining thread to read so far. Probably be better when it fills up. I’ll be back.
It will be fun when Griff gets here to explain that it is all 100% true and that we all died in 2000.
Or ingraham shows up to tell that there is no problem because we ran out of oil years ago.
“we all died in 2000.”
we did … just came back to haunt griff.
Are they going to bomb coal and natural gas plants around the world to save the planet if countries i.e. China and India don’t shut down theirs?
Tactical nukes, helps with the atomic winter too.
China owns these UN fools. There won’t be any China consequences, and the Biden Crime Family will insure it. What a mess.
Stop with the Ad Hominem attacks on people with Disabilities!
We have to attack people who are trying to ruin our lives, whether they have disabilities, like Biden, or not.
Amount of power produced by coal currently with figures for plants under construction and planned for the future.
Operating: 1,790,642 MW
Building: 199,572 MW
Planned: 297,829 MW
Coal isn’t to end any time soon let alone natural gas.
The Chinese and India are the two most populous countries on the planet. They both have first rate scientists, incredibly bright people in their countries looking hard at global warming. The top 25% of each countries population ranked by intelligence equals the entire population of the US. Their wish to die 10 years into the future is no greater than ours.
Yet, they don’t buy it. If China and India are not buying it, why should we? Nothing that the rest of us do will make any difference without China and India going along.
Why is the behavior of China and India not seen as a scientific refutation of man made CO2 driven climate change? If the “settled science” of Climate Change has not convinced China and India, why are the rest of us going along?
Usurper of Nations
LOL. I got an e-mail from my sister about what might happen if YouTube, Twitter and Facebook were to merge. It would become “You Twit Face.” 😀
ok since there is no doubt world wide carbon dioxide emissions will continue to rise , lets jump on this , get another 10 year or whatever prediction and blow it up ; so at least in five or even ten years we can point to the fact we haven’t gone over any climate cliffs and then deflate all the apocalyptic predictions . unfortunately I realize that all it takes is one storm for the alarmists to declare the apocalypse , but nevertheless it would be nice to see them at least once have to eat their words
That has happened 4 or 5 times already. All they do is add 10 years, and repeat the same failed predictions.
we should repeat them over and over again til the media is forced to acknowledge them . pick a few of the worst most indisputable predictions and keep hammering away at them . I think there are a lot of people who might be receptive . and it could be fun to see the true believers get hysterical
I did exactly that on The Hill and guess what? Hysterical
This is the calculation. It’s basic Arithmetic, nothing fancy, no hidden agenda, just something you can do by taking your socks and shoes off.
Atmospheric CO2 levels in 1850 (beginning of the Industrial Revolution): ~280ppm (parts per million atmospheric content).
Atmospheric CO2 level in 2021: ~410ppm.
410ppm minus 280ppm = 130ppm
÷ 171 years (2021 minus 1850) = 0.76ppm of which man is responsible for ~3% = ~0.02ppm.
That’s every human on the planet and every industrial process adds ~0.02ppm CO2 to the atmosphere per year on average.
At that rate mankind’s CO2 contribution to the atmosphere would take more than 20,000 years to double the CO2 content in the atmosphere which, the IPCC states, would cause ~2°C of temperature rise. That’s ~0.0001°C increase per year for 20,000 years.
One hundred (100) generations of humanity from now (assuming ~ 25 years per generation) would experience warming of ~0.25°C more than we have today.
The Manua Loa CO2 observatory (and others) can identify and illustrate Natures seasonal variations of atmospheric CO2, but does not distinguish between natural and man made atmospheric CO2. Hardly surprising really, despite mankind’s CO2 emissions being completely independent of seasonal variation. It should reveal itself as a straight line, but is so inconsequential, this ‘vital component’ of Global Warming is not illustrated.
The global fall in output of man made CO2 over the last 16 months of the Covid-19 pandemic, estimated at ~14% (14% of ~0.02ppm CO2 = 0.0028ppm) does not register anywhere on the Manua Loa data.
Why am I not surprised?!
I’ve seen this reasoning before. Where does the bulk of the CO2 increase originate?
How many active volcanoes are their in the deep oceans? No one knows.
Just found a whole load more under west Antarctica.
Ocean outgassing as the top layers warm in the sun. Why would anyone want a Little Ice Age?
The oceans outgassing
For the oceans to outgas, they would have to be warming up.
How much outgassing would a few hundredths of a degree cause?
It’s only the mixed layer that matters and it has warmed a little more. In addition, the salinity is increasing which means less CO2 can be absorbed. And, with microplastics it gets even worse.
Does all this make any enough difference? Doubt it, but I’m far from an expert.
“That’s every human on the planet and every industrial process adds ~0.02ppm CO2 to the atmosphere per year on average.”
Not quite so … To be pedantic –
That’s every human on the planet and every industrial process *collectively* adds *a total of* ~0.02ppm CO2 to the atmosphere per year on average.
Big difference to 0.02ppm added by each individual & process.
On the other hand you could consider the industrial processes as acting on behalf of individuals.
It’s individuals who consume the output of the industrial processes, and without the individuals, there would be no industrial processes in the first place.
You’ve messed up your sums. Yes, humans only contribute 3% to *gross* CO2 emissions, but the yearly increases are seen (by most scientists) to be from humans burning fossil fuels. Do you don’t take 3% of the yearly 0.76 ppm increase to calculate humanity’s contribution; 0.76ppm/year *is* humanity’s contribution.
And using that average to calculate future emissions is bogus, because we haven’t been burning fossil fuels at a constant rate since we started 171 years ago, have we?
Not that it matters. But the fact that you got 10 upvotes suggests people around here are a lot dumber than I thought.
Which is not empirically shown, unless you accept the scientific incompetence of comparing poor proxies (ice core air bubbles assumed to be a “closed system,” which they are not) to modern atmospheric measurements, and also extrapolate this into the fictitious notion of “balance” from which any variation “must” be down to fossil fuel use (when the only thing being measured – and even then only indirectly, is the fossil fuel use). And unless you also accept that you can substitute “estimates” for “measurements” and pretend that it constitutes “science” that should form the basis for “policy.”
We’re NOT measuring all the “sources” (estimated to be 97% of them)
We’re NOT measuring the “sinks” (100% of them)
Yet you think it can be scientifically determined that one contribution of 3% (estimated) that is measured controls what the whole “system” is doing.
Maybe “people around here” are not dumb enough to “believe” that.
I’d like to assign the UN Secretary General his own personal “Climate Nazi” who will ensure he “walks the walk” by stripping him of any and all things fossil fuel derived. Strip him naked, evict him from any and all residences that have central heating, electricity, or are built with materials otherwise harvested, transported or assembled with the use of fossil fuels, take his cell phones, tablets, laptops or other computers, remove access to all motor vehicles, boats, trains, planes or other transport not made of wood harvested and cut with stone tools, just for starters.
Live like it’s the stone age or don’t preach it to the rest of it, you piece of excrement!
Yes, the UN Secretary General and his organization should set a good example for the rest of us by giving up their use of fossil fuels right now. Show us how it’s done.
Just like Obama’s bash where they ignored masking mandates etc.
According to one young reporterette, it’s alright, because the people at Obama’s birthday bash were “sophisticated”.
Of course. The enlightened elite.
I am all for stopping oil and coal extractions for a couple of months, turn off all natural gas plants at the same time and rely just on what we can get from solar and wind.
Make this worldwide, two months during NH winter and two months during SH winter and let’s see how it is.
At the same time, let’s make the UN’s fleet and flights all electric (if there are no electric planes, just wait until they are available).
We had a pretty good try last year.
All flights stopped. Lockdowns everywhere.
And the impact on atmospheric CO2 was not observable. Nothing.
So to make the change required we know we have to do 2020 on steroids, year after year, forever.
COP26 needs to admit that.
Quote:”we have to do 2020 on steroids, year after year,”
All ‘we’ have to do is to stop ploughing, cultivating (fields), paddy fielding, Rounding Upping and tillage in general.
Because THAT is where the CO2 is coming from and why the lockdown did nothing for Mauna Loa.
Just for a single year,
In fact and considering the dire stocks of what passes for ‘food’ currently laid in around The World, anything more than 73 days would ‘do the trick’
No need to worry about ‘forever’
Forever is for romantics and other folks who count dancing angels and dream about clouds. Just like Climate and Planet Earth, Forever will look after itself.
Besides and obviously, there’ll be next to nobody around to measure it.
Thus hardly surprising that nobody wants to know – it’s way way way too far & away tooooooo scary.
(“Scary” is maybe not the right word but its in the right direction)
See the problem now, exactly who are The Deniers?
Answer my own question = “Pretty well everybody.”
We know that because ‘Things have never been better’ and are constantly reminded of same.
Just look at the shape of Gutterres – HE defines what is wrong without opening his mouth or saying a word.
Obesity is symptomatic of malnourishment and starvation
We all wanna wake our ideas up pretty damn pronto.
That particular monster is gonna get us anyway – from right under our feet as it has done for EVERY previous attempt us humans have made at Settled Civilisation.
It’s got 75% of most Westerners already = the pre and actual diabetics.
Climageddon is coming but NOT from up in the sky.
If you insist on passing yourself off as an American, Peta of Newark, learn to spell plowing like an American.
Fuggedaboud huh Paulie! Peta is from a little English town named after our city in North Joisey.
There’s a Newark in England. It’s probably what the Newarks in NJ and elsewhere in the US are named after.
Nonsense. Who would name a city after a backwater in little England? 😜
More importantly, who would name themselves after a backwater in little England? 😉
Possibly you’ve never had the “pleasure” of visiting Newark, New Jersey. A rotten egg by any other name might smell a bit sweeter.
Can’t say I’ve ever had the “pleasure”. But then I try to avoid the “pleasure” of all cities as (at least from my experience of them in the US) they mostly all suffer many of the same “rotten” problems, just to different degrees.
Probably random, although there may be other factors surrounding why there’s a New York, but no New Heckmondwike.
The only problem with your plan is the 1000’s of people who would die because of it. However I like the idea of making UN officials live their lives by solar and wind power. I’d like to see UN HQ in NY with no lights on, and watch UN officials eating insects instead of the 3 Michelin star gourmet dinners they have now. That would be highly entertaining.
C’mon UN officials, show us the way!
I understand that there is some prime real estate available in Burkina Faso…
They tried that in Venezuela, or rather petroleum production kind of all broke down after the military plant overseers appointed by the Venezuelan Government stole and sold all the production equipment. The Venezuelan people still support socialism, they just think it isn’t being done right.
Let’s cut off all Fossil Fuel and Power to the UN in yearly steps over the next 5 year and tell them to install their own renewable power production to run UN facilities and transport. Add no funds to their budget, instead reduce their budget since renewables are “cheaper”.
Nah, we need not wait for electric planes. Given them a regular plane with a robot crew, and once it’s up around 30,000 feet, the stewardess-bot can pleasantly announce, “Ladies and gentlemen, since the UN is against fossil fuel use, we ill now cut the fuel supply to the engines. Enjoy your flight.”
The UN is nothing more than the League of Nations redone in stealth mode after it was banned. A quango built on lies and deception. Look at what it has grown to and how it varies from its’ original charter. Just how many wars is it responsible for preventing? It has a larger budget than some nations. It maintains its’ power through intimidation, deception, propaganda, playing countries off one another, and fear. Fear of not belonging to the world accepted so called definitive court. It’s a long play by the Marxists.
Either the UN should identify the CCP as the major “culprit” by far…Enemy No. 1 …..or shut up The CCP is not only leading in CO2 – it is cutting down forest in places like Bolivia. Here is a prediction – the CCP will completely ignore the IPCC. And another thing….hundreds of CCP ships are anchored in waters of the Philippines and dump raw sewage to the extent that algae blooms are taking place……CCP is No. 1 Worldwide Polluter.
I blame UN and their ilk for anything bad that occurs.
Now, now. The UN have been relatively good at picking up the pieces and sorting messes out after the s#¥t has hit the fan – where it has completely got out of hand and f€£%ed up completely is where it has tried to act on predictions ahead of the game. Strip it right back to the bare bones – a forum to sort out international disputes and organise disaster relief – and defund everything else. Whatever power they believe they have has obviously gone to their heads.
Except in those places where UN peacekeepers became a worse threat than the warlords they replaced.
They are also exceptionally good at spending all countries who contribute cash on stupid wasteful causes and building a bureaucratic empire of over paid useless employees … what else would they do if the UN was closed.
Obsessions can be healed. Give it a try 😀
You are totally blinkered, and you horizon is limited as an teaspoon.
The only death knell that should be sounded is for the IPCC itself….and maybe for the WMO as well. And a death knell to the corruption of science.
Whatever happened to that U.S. federal law that requires the United States to withdraw from any U.N. organization that admits the Palestinians as members? The WMO admitted the Palestinians as member some years ago, didn’t they?
I may be incorrect, but I seem to recall that the law dates back to the Clinton-Gore administration.
I believe that the IPCC has done so, as well.
Code Red Cubed!
And we really, really, really mean it this time!!!!
With lots and lots and more lots of exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Code Infra-Red . . The shoe fits, after all . .
The U.N. is seeking to make human extinction a self-fulfilling prophesy.
“God has raised up a prophet in Greta
Thunberg in a way that no one could predict,” – former Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams
“The world’s gone crazy
and it seems to get worse every day,
So come on back Jesus
and pick up John Wayne on the way!”
Claiming a manufactured personality as a prophet is beyond bizarre
Willie Nelson and John Wayne are not manufactured. John may have past but Willie signs on. As for the other guy you have no way of knowing if he was manufactured or not, but there is at least one book out that says he wasn’t.
Pardon my glibness, fretslider.
Ridiculous sells well these days, bizarre is just old hat. If computer models can tell the future, why not some parentally abused child who suffers from Asperger’s syndrome? It just shows how organized religion has been assimilated into the scientology of mankind having wrested control of this planet’s future away from God.
Models? They’re junk
There is no god
Are you sure that wasn’t Rowan Atkinson, Archbishop Bean?
Most mainline churches stopped being Christian years ago. Especially their leadership.
Just down the street from here is a woke UCC building that pushes all things rainbow and BLM.
The new revised revision of the revised Apostle’s creed: (Rowan Atkinson)
That might actually have been a pretty funny joke if Rowan Atkinson had said it.
As it is, it’s just a kinda sad one.
Perhaps the companies mistrust Biden and the greens? Actually getting the full use of the lease with warmunists in power will be difficult.
Wow, talk about coming out of left field.
What do you expect for someone that lives in the outfield?
Individual wells, fields, plays and basins die but Peak Oil is not imminent. The North Sea is essentially played out and the GOM will likely follow in a couple of decades. The dominant strategy has shifted from primary production in ever more exotic locations to enhanced recovery in more accessible locations. Fracking (and refracking) may lead back offshore, but not for some time.
There are trillions of barrels of oil laying around in oil sands, tight oil formations and heavy oil deposits. More expensive, but peak oil is 100s of years in the future.
Well, refineries in the US are actually making bank on heavier API oils, at least according to this article. There’s billions of barrels of surface oil (bitumen) in tar sands in Utah, and trillions underground. Since there are significant markets for all types of refined products, all of which can be refined from heavy crude oil, I doubt that peak oil will be a problem in our lifetimes.
Mark, are you claiming that the oil companies are faking their P90 reserve numbers? According to the reported numbers the US reserves are the highest in the historical records.
That is an extraordinary claim to make. Investors use the P90 data to determine the value to assign to a company for its reserves. The P90 reserves are supposed to be economically producible. You are saying that the companies are vastly overstating their proven reserves. That means there are legal implications to the company executives. If you are correct I would not want to be in their shoes.
Mark I am sorry to upset you but I haven’t done any math just pointed out the publicly reported data. You seem to be disputing the integrity of the data the oil companies are reporting. You need to be attacking the companies and informing the investment community if you can prove the dishonesty.
Dude, seriously, Wikipedia?
It really is amazing how deluded you are.
“I want to point out this is a example of how dumb this board is.”
Thank you Mark, without your erudite help, superior intellect, plus technical & mathematical prowess; we’d never have known how dumb we all are, you have pointed the way to the promised land.
Now you’ve achieved your mission … why dont you sod off & anoy someone else with your stupid ill-informed coments.
No production grew until 2020. Proved reserves also grew.
The data is available at eia.gov in both tabular and chart form.
Actually he did read, the problem for you is he reads a lot more than you.
No only does he read more than Mark ingraham does, more importantly he comprehends more (way, way, more) than Mark ingraham does
Funny try to tell that to the people in the oil basin I am now sitting in. There are three shale formation below me and at this time only one is being tapped. That worthless shale put this state into number two in production in the US. Also the largest reserve in the gulf remain untapped and out of reach due to politics not technology ditto for most of the shale reserves in the US.
It really is sad the way you pull nonsequitur after nonsequitur out of your nether regions.
Oh my, the irony meter just melted.
You owe me a new one.
Is there any nonsense you won’t believe?
Barley (sic) any, I reckon.
Gulf of Mexico proved reserves are growing.
Gulf of Mexico production is growing.
The reserves to production ratio is 8 years, it has averaged 8 years since 1981. Proved reserves represents the volume of oil that can be produced from existing wells (>90% confidence), with existing technology and economic conditions.
Clearly someone who’s been a petroleum geologist for 40 years, working the Gulf of Mexico since 1988 wouldn’t “get any of that.”
A friend of mine opened a restaurant in our town.
He’s been very successful and has made a lot of money.
However the standard of living for our town hasn’t changed.
Therefor his restaurant wasn’t successful.
Now that thar is funny.
You got any evidence that food supply is falling in the 3rd world?
Unsourced tables from unreliable web sites.
Since they agree with the voices in your head, that’s good enough.
Just the latest in an ongoing series of last chances. Stay tuned for the next last chance.
Sort of like some of those “going out of business” sales…
It’s getting pretty crowded at The Last Chance Saloon…
It’s your last chance of boozing,
Where there’s no-one to mind.
It’s your last chance of losing
And the first place you’ll find.
It’s your last chance of earning
Your gunfighters fee.
The pay is in dollars,
But the bullets are free.
It’s your last chance of cussing
At a gunfighters doom.
It’s your last chance of nothing
It’s the Last Chance Saloon.
— from the Ballad of the Last Chance Saloon
“This report must sound a death knell for coal and fossil fuels,”
Guterres is going to stop the world from making anything out of plastic then, I take it.
Did Guterres consult with the ChiComs?
Israel knows a thing or two about dealing (coping) with the UN. Its survival depends on it in large part.
And the UN for its part knows diplomacy with large members getting their way on territorial grabs and vote buying of client states.
Colour me unimpressed. It want Code Flashing Yellow And Red With Sirens And Claxons.
That’s next week I think.
Say, griff, could you check the script for next week and let us know? That’s a good man.
Actually no claxons for about another month.
Another month? Is that before or after the tipping point? I’m kinda losing track these days.
Well that brings us into September and then we need a month or so of claxons before the great event. Surely there will also be some bombs bursting in air by the last week. By that point our trolls will be on brink of collapse what with the continuous stress of trying to come up with new nonsense to hype hysterically. I do hope poor griff will be up to it.
Does anyone have a link to the original document where Maurice Strong, UN Environment Programme Director declared in 1972 that the world just had 10 years to avoid a catastrophe.
All links I had Error 404
Winston has been busy….
Only healthy and wealthy countries like the USA, Germany, Australia, and the UK can subsidize electricity from breezes and sunshine, and intermittent electricity at best. The 80 percent of the 8 billion on earth living on less than 10 dollars a day cannot subsidize themselves out of a paper bag.
Those poorer countries must rely on affordable and abundant coal for reliable electricity, while residents in the healthy and wealthier countries pay dearly for those subsidies with some of the highest cost for electricity in the world.
Simply put, in these healthy and wealthy countries, every person, animal, or anything that causes emissions to harmfully rise could vanish off the face of the earth; or even die off, and global emissions will still explode in the coming years and decades ahead over the population and economic growth of China, India, Indonesia, Japan, Vietnam, and Africa.
Fixed it for you. There is nothing harmful about CO2 emissions.
Funny while China on a coal Spree: https://e360.yale.edu/features/despite-pledges-to-cut-emissions-china-goes-on-a-coal-spree Lets look at the data and see who is being taken for a sucker:
Here are the number of Coal fired power stations in various countries with the 2nd numbers signifying planned and population size in brackets:
… 4 / …….0….UK…………… .(66,600,000)
….19 / …..60….Philippines … (108,100,000)
….56 / …..93….Turkey ………..(82,000,000)
….58 / …..26….South Korea ….(51,710,000)
….79 / …..24….South Africa … (58,560,000)
….90 / …..45….Japan ………..(126,300,000)
241 / ……4….US ……………(328,200,000)
…468 / ….27….EU ……………(446,000,000)
…589 / ..446…India ……… (1,366,000,000)
2,363 / 1171…China …….. (1,398,000,000)
China called on rich countries to “pay their debts” on climate change at global talks criticizing developed countries for not doing enough to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and provide finance to help poor countries do the same.
Someone please tell me why these people insist that a warm, user-friendly planet is a threat of any kind when we have fossils going back a VERY LONG WAY – like gazillions of years – that say the precise opposite.
Okay, not gazilions, but considering that the oldest evidence of life (fossils!!) were found 40-some years ago in Australia, and they date back 3.5 BILLION years, that alone is more than enough evidence that a warm, user-friendly planet like Earth is better than a frozen iceball like Pluto, anyone of Saturn’s moons or Jupiter’s satellites, etc., etc., etc.
I am mystified by this imbecilic and ridiculous need to stick to a fabricated load of cow pies.
I have a nasty feeling that lessons of the past have NOT been learned – or misapplied. The ideas of the 17thc and 18thc became racism as some thinkers tried to find ways to explain why they had advanced technology and others didn’t – we know how this ended – in eugenics and the holocaust. Current thinking appears to have turned it on its head but still kept the outmoded and racist views espoused in Victorian and pre-victorian colonialism; the idea of the noble savage being more in touch with the living planet and the more technologically advanced you are the more remote the connection to the planet. This is the new cultural racism – a reversal of the Victorian racism where native tribal people are seen as the more enlightened or culturally advanced whilst at the bottom end of the scale, the more affluent, technologically developed European or North American societies are despised as being the least ‘aware’ or relevant. We in the technological societies are supposed to feel an appropriate level of guilt and loss for turning our backs on mother nature and embracing science and technology rather than the obviously far superior tribal wisdom. It’s racism learning a new trick and it’s likely to end just as badly as before.
“I have a nasty feeling that lessons of the past have NOT been learned”
Lessons are rarely learned … we just do the same things & hope for a different outcome.
Thats where religion comes in handy, we can absolve our-self’s of any responsibility, as it’s dog moving in mysterious ways.
Ashamed because that creature UN boss is a national of my country.
Give or take one or two years, he studied at the same high school as I (known as one of the strictest and best of Lisbon at that time); because he has an engeneering degree from a university known by the excellence of its programs of studies of that time.
He traded his intelligence and knowledge by what is needed in a political career.
“He traded his intelligence and knowledge by what is needed in a political career.” Are you certain he had any intelligence to begin with? The world is full of people with excellent memories, and they test well but intelligence is not a prerequisite to getting good grades or doing well in school. Intelligence is what need in business but not politics. After spending a life time watching politics my guess is intelligence is a hindrance not a help and good memory is a definite aid. After all who not impressed by someone who can remember you spouse and children’s names.
Whether memory alone is enough to get good grades depends a lot on which field you are studying.
History, possibly. Good teachers will also ask you to explain and contrast in your answers.
Math, much less so. Memory will help you memorize the various formula, but knowing which formula to use, when takes intelligence. Solving a problem you have never seen before also takes intelligence.
The same goes with most of the physical sciences.
“Are you certain he had any intelligence to begin with?”
Yes. I know the man and I have followed his career closely enough. If you are with him you can understand that he is wise, cultivated and knowledgeable in his private life, and completely dumb and superstitious in his public (political) persona.
“I mean, how do you top a “code red”?”
Code redder then code redderer.
That should take us to 2035.
Threat Level Midnight
That one is property of the Union Of Consarn Scientologists.
Depends who’s in charge of getting the different coloured light bulbs for the alarm panel! (Need a Red Dwarf meme here really).
Next year it will be DOUBLE CODE RED then TRIPLE CODE RED and then they will ramp up the scare a bit more, just to get more money money money…
All the “renewable” energy is only possible with fossil fuels, ALL renewables stand on the shoulders of fossil fuels, they must be made to realize.
Ah yes, the UN and its priorities….
Niger was once identified by the World Health Organization as one of the countries most vulnerable to the coronavirus outbreak.
This vast West African nation—home to one of the world’s highest birth and poverty rates—was once identified by the World Health Organization as one of the most vulnerable to the coronavirus outbreak on a continent that the United Nations predicted would kill millions. Over a year later, many other countries across Africa are in the grip of the pandemic’s third wave, with new variants sending infections to record levels.
But while Niger is struggling with a host of economic and security challenges, it is among a small group of nations on the southern edge of the Sahara that so far has mostly escaped the coronavirus scourge. The reasons—which appear to include a hot and dry climate, sparsely populated and poorly connected settlements and the world’s youngest population—have made Niger a crucial case study for virologists studying the evolution of Covid-19, experts say.
Covid-19 is just the latest plague to arrive in a region beset by crises: An Islamist insurgency has killed over 8,000 and displaced one million, global warming is depleting precious agricultural resources and many locals die prematurely from other infectious diseases.
In March, jihadists killed 137 villagers in Niger’s southwest, the deadliest by suspected jihadists in the country’s history. In June, the terrorists also massacred 160 in neighboring Burkina Faso—as many as recorded Covid-19 deaths in the country during the entire pandemic.
In many poor countries, most of those who die, for whatever reason in remote villages don’t get reported.
Global warming has increased agricultural resources. It is murderous Islamists that disrupt agriculture.
I hope all of the oil producing members of the UN are paying attention or was there a memo advising them ahead of time to tune out on this.
How about sounding a death knell for the IPCC which has NEVER been able to produce a SINGLE accurate prediction?
Yet here you are…..
So you are saying you are irrelevant?
You have finally said something I can agree with.
Mark I. has managed to disrupt WUWT in a week more than all the regular trolls put together over the past year.
Why don’t you find some other site to vent your whining?
I’m willing to bet that you were banned more for being a boring repetitive troll than for your (lack of) content.
Let’s hope that applies here soon.
Yes, well the best thing to do with a known troll is to completely ignore it. Unless they are a pet troll like griff of course.
Oh, you poor little baby.
Great if it will happen here too. You deserve it.
Violate the rules over and over again, then convince yourself that the only reason why you are banned is because other people are too stupid to understand how brilliant you are.
Aperfect subjec for a Dunning Kruger award for hubris.
Why would they ban you for?
No surprised that you are banned elsewhere as it seems you are working hard to get yourself banned here as well.
He seems to take being banned as a badge of honor. Proof that he is right.
I think you have the right attitude, Carlo.
Wha? Huh? Did someone say something?
I fell asleep.
Irrelevant for your purposes.
Are you the board ? Then you are right.
It’s you that is irrelevant.
This board provides tremendous insights into the topics posted on this website. One of the few boards where I read the responses to the posted articles with as much interest as the articles that are provided. Very educated responses a lot of the time.
The UN sayz — “THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE! If you do not listen to us, we will have no choice but to tell you yet again this is your last chance in two years.”
I wonder… If the temperatures turn colder in a not very distant future… will we have squandered the best climatical period on this hysteria?
This is the best paper on (not) CO2 I have come across through many years of reading climate-science; https://vixra.org/pdf/1811.0498v2.pdf
Thanks for the link.
A futile attempt to make COP 26 relevant. The Chinese and Indians have already kicked it into touch along with ~80 other countries that are demanding their cut of hundreds of billions promised them but not delivered, so they are not playing ball either.
Political theatrics typical of the run up to these worthless events.
It’s nothing more than maintaining jobs for the boys as every single one of these events have made not one iota of difference on rising CO2 levels, nor will they ever.
The world will end in 15 to 20 years?
What happened to the AOC 12-year estimate of 3 years ago?
In any case, that will all happen after my 100th birthday.
The world got along fine with 1 billion people in 1800
Why not set THAT as a goal by 2050.
All the OTHER goals are BS
China, India, Russia, etc., will provide lip service for decades
FOSSIL FUELS LUBRICATE MODERN CIVILIZATION
There are no viable substitutes
If governments can shut down and trash their national economies, they can also take immediate action to address the use of fossil fuels by lowering the maximum road speed limits by say 20 mph (~30 kph). A precedent was set during the OPEC crisis in the 1970’s. A presidential ukase or fiat should do the trick.
All that would do is raise speed differentials and cause more accidents, injuries and deaths, all in the pursuit of a non-solution to an imaginary “problem.” And press the police into service as “revenue collectors.”
one of the transportation bills in the 90’s if I remember correctly, the ability of the feds to restrict the speed limits.
I’ve been waiting all day to hear what Greta has to say, I presume she is about on page 3713 by now, only 236 to go, so she’ll be saying something soon.
“high enough to guarantee climate disruption for decades if not centuries, the scientists conclude”
This statement may hint at a better approach for getting people to recognize they are being lied to. People think the source of IPCC reports (and the IPCC itself) is scientists. In reality, every word of the reports is subject to editing by the voting members, who are not required to be scientists; but are required to say humans are causing dangerous climate change if they want to keep getting sent to conferences at five star resorts.
Is there a list of the actual members of the IPCC for this cycle, and any overview of their scientific backgrounds?
From the article: “The UN chief urged an immediate end to coal energy and other high-polluting fossil fuels.”
That’s not going to happen.
So what is the UN going to do in that case?
According to them, the world is screwed. So we are screwed and there is no turning back because China and India and a lot of other nations are not going to give up on building new coal-fired powerplants. They just won’t, and everyone knows it. So what’s the point of this speech?
The IPCC might as well disband. They have run out of options. They are incapable of reducing the use of fossil fuels.
Yet they have the ear of countless politicians and media idiots who will echo every word verbatim. This is what I don’t understand.
There appear to be a lot of sheep out there, Carlo.
Yes but as the sheep run into the meat grinder in plain view of all, at some point one would hope the rest will turn tail and abandon the idea that “following” those who are leading into mass suicide is a good thing.
Mind the @$$-door interface on your way out.
The futherer behind you get, the less sense you make.
If you think we are at peak oil, then why worry about CO2 emissions. Apparently there’s only enough left to increase the temperature by the same 1C or so since the start of the Industrial Revolution that just happened to coincide with the end of the LIA. Or, was it the end of the LIA that enabled mankind to start the IR?
Maybe you should be sending emails to Anthony Watts.
Is this a threat or a delusion?
With whose money, daddy’s?
And we thought Griff was the worst delusional troll
What amazes me most is; with your self avowed brilliance and purported great wealth, why don’t you have the world’s most viewed blog on self aggrandizement? Why is it you’re still just a pest who has been universally banned?
Eons ago back in college, there was a guy in the dorm where I was living who went around making sure everyone knew that he was the guy who had invented the CT scanner. Knowing this was impossible, everyone just kind of looked at him and blinked, there was nothing to say.
That sort of self aggrandizement is typical of failing kids in their late teens when the grownups aren’t giving them the credit they yearn for and feel they deserve. Martyrdom also figures strongly in their world view.
I’m sure you could, except monopoly(tm) money isn’t real currency.
Fascinating how the troll actually believes he knows better than everyone else, what we need to be talking about.
And he’s gonna nag, and nag, and nag until we all agree that he is the smartest person ever born.
So lets all agree that he is the smartest person ever born.
& then ignore ALL his future comments.
Because WE dumb-wits (including me) are engaging him, he’s taken up ~25% of this thread with trash.
DON’T FEED THE TROLL
How do you club the troll on the head, if you don’t lure it out by feeding it? 🙂
Indeed. Not to mention it’s fun to point and laugh at the trolls (which only feed them, but the laughs are worth it).
If we can’t torment the trolls, who are we going to torment?
“…death knell for coal and fossil fuels”Wait – coal isn’t a fossil fuel? Who knew?
Nice catch, Bruce. Not only are they just flapping their gums, but carelessly so.
Then why is the global temperature 0,4°C lower today than in 1998?
Ok, I’m kidding, but the IPCC doesn’t do that with its climate emergency, right?
In reverse of Heinlein’s quote:
“You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity.”
one must probably state:
“Since, with so many scientists, stupidity cannot be the cause, it has to be villainy!”
Gotta amp up the lies, because the world just isn’t listening to us.
Yes, the new lie is that they have conclusive evidence that humans are causing the Earth’s climate to change for the worse.
They don’t have any more evidence now than they did at the last COP, they have just turned up the rhetoric.
The biggest scientific hoax in human history. Played for Big Bucks (dollars).
According to some, that would just be a minor math error, otherwise they would have been completely correct.
Either that, or it only applied to Great Britain.
Code reder than red?
There are shades and intensities of “red”.
Next will be a threat scale based on the “intensity” of the red.
“50 Shades of Red.”
I can’t wait for the book to come out. Oughta leave sales of “50 Shades of Gray” in the dust.
Bring in the fashionistas!
Ultra-red. That is when your balls turn blue.
It really is amazing how much time you spend on a site that is pointless.
Does that prove that you too are pointless?
Is is just me, or has the level of discourse gone down over the last year?
Does he want to destroy Africa and have them all flee to Europe and the US?
Actually this report must sound the death knell for the U.N.
One can hope.
Certainly for the International Propaganda on Climate Control.
You want me on that wall.
You NEED me on that wall.
how do you top a “code red”?
Code double secret red.