Aussie Health Minister Goes Off Script with Ivermectin Treatment for Covid-19

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t JoNova; A simple tried and tested generic medical treatment which may reduce Covid deaths by 80% is slowly winning grudging acceptance.

Hunt goes off script with ivermectin

Health minister endorses doctors’ right to treat Covid

Rebecca Weisser

17 July 2021

It is to Australia’s credit that one of the most effective treatments was identified at Monash University along with the Doherty Institute which showed that ivermectin kills the Sars-CoV-2 virus within 48 hours. Yet to our national shame, the researchers have been starved of resources and the discovery ignored.

Not so in Indonesia where an enterprising philanthropist, Haryoseno, leapt into action and made ivermectin available to the masses for free or at low cost. As a result, Indonesia has had an extremely low Covid mortality rate. That is until the Ministry of Health decided, in line with the WHO’s recommendation, that ivermectin would only be used in a clinical trial. Haryoseno has been threatened with a fine and a ten-year jail sentence and the supply of ivermectin has dried up. Result? Deaths per million have increased five-fold since withdrawal of ivermectin on 12 June.

In Australia, one of the few doctors brave enough to use the drug to treat patients and save lives, Dr Mark Hobart, was reported to the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (AHPRA). Thankfully, AHPRA advised that there had been no infringement. Indeed, federal Health Minister Greg Hunt wrote to one of the doctors in Australia who prescribes ivermectin confirming that he was aware that some physicians are prescribing ivermectin off-label for Covid and that they were quite within their rights as the practice of prescribing registered medicines outside of their approved indications is not regulated or controlled by the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), it is at the discretion of the prescribing physician. Yet the silence persists. Ivermectin is the drug that dare not speak its name.

Read more: https://spectator.com.au/2021/07/hunt-goes-off-script-with-ivermectin/

Regardless of your views about vaccination, there will always be a core of people who refuse vaccines. Having a cheap and effective generic therapeutic available would take the heat out of the debate, about whether vaccines should be mandatory.

I am not disputing that more work needs to be done, to establish the effectiveness of drug therapies, but denying therapies which appear to be well supported by anecdotal evidence could cost someone their life. President Trump understood this, when he established the right to try – a principle which in my opinion should be unequivocally extended to treatment of Covid-19.

So I applaud Health Minister Greg Hunt for standing up for choice, and hope he finds the courage to stick to his position, given the immense pressure he may be facing from vested interests, to shut down cheap generic alternatives to expensive patented treatments.

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Derg
July 22, 2021 2:07 pm

“ Having a cheap and effective generic therapeutic available would take the heat out of the debate, about whether vaccines should be mandatory.”

Hahahaha…do you think drug companies want that?

ghalfrunt
Reply to  Derg
July 22, 2021 2:56 pm

A large Egyptian study of ivermectin for COVID-19 patients has been retracted over concerns of plagiarism and serious problems with their raw data, the publisher confirmed to MedPage Today.
Michele Avissar-Whiting, PhD, editor-in-chief of the preprint server Research Square, said in an emailed statement that the study was withdrawn on July 14 “because we were presented with evidence of both plagiarism and anomalies in the dataset associated with the study, neither of which could reasonably be addressed by the author issuing a revised version of the paper.”
Large Ivermectin Study Retracted | MedPage Today

Derg
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 22, 2021 6:10 pm

Hey it’s Ghalfrunt who wants us to drink bleach to cure Covid

Doug S
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 5:08 am

Here is a presentation of the meta analysis for Ivermectin studies to date. 60 different studies from around the world showing good positive results for the treatment of COVID-19 with Ivermectin.

https://ivmmeta.com/

establ
Reply to  Doug S
July 23, 2021 12:11 pm

Here is a similar site:

https://c19ivermectin.com/

ozspeaksup
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 5:14 am

one of the 33 or so and was rated low in the overall metadata that supported Ivermectin use overall
pity the msm of course managed to omit that

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 7:32 am

So, ghalfrunt, what does the large Egyptian study of ivermectin for COVID-19 patients” have to do with the ivermectin-related events in Indonesia that is the subject of the above article?

Bill Powers
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 8:00 am

Retracted by BUREAUCRATS on vague generalizations about plagiarism and data anomalies. Data anomalies!

Why whenever the bureau of misinformation needs hobgoblins they turn to computer models, where data anomalies is “What’s for dinner.?

It never ceases to amaze me the bold faced duplicity of the “Big Brothers” in charge.

For a pandemic, that is not really all that deadly as pandemics go, to have a non lethal treatment that shows signs of curing patients, rejected by bureaucrats, says more about those in control than is does about the disease or the suggested treatment.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 24, 2021 4:06 am

the study was withdrawn on July 14 “because we were presented with evidence of both plagiarism and anomalies in the dataset associated with the study”

So what’s your point? This study does not say whether Ivermectin is effective or not. The study is flawed and worthless for determining the effectiveness of Ivermectin, yet you imply that the results of this study says something about Ivermenctin’s effectiveness.

A poorly designed and run study does not say anything about Ivermectin, pro or con.

ghalfrunt
Reply to  Derg
July 22, 2021 3:00 pm

Many vaccines are being given free – no money there just money lost
Oxford AZ is being sold at cost and help given to countries wanting to set up there own production. – no profit there

Spetzer86
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 22, 2021 4:16 pm

That’s why several drug companies are investing hundreds of millions of dollars each for new or larger vaccine production facilities. They do that so they won’t make money. Pull the other one.

Drake
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 22, 2021 5:53 pm

OK:

1), Wife’s cousin, in Montreal, got vaccinated. Pfizer. She had a severe reaction to her first dose. First china virus symptoms, severe, with eye problems, continuously must wear sunglasses, light hurts.. Taken in for Cat scan in May. Now she must undergo some sort of eye procedure due to swelling in her macular and retina. Never had the second dose. Was told she was allergic to the vac. The first almost killed her.
Her husband and mother were OK with the vac.

2) Step daughters uncle had BOTH doses, then came into contact with someone and caught the Chinavirus. Symptoms 3 days ago, now DEAD. Wife never vaccinated, got it too, on her way to the hospital after finding her husband dead. Her OX is good, she has symptoms but not bad, they think her stress may be the problem.

3) My mother, 90 at the time, had swelling in her legs after the second dose, no problem with the first.

My wife and I have no intention of getting any of the three vaccines available at this time. Just the FACT that 65% or so have had a vaccine, disregarding the % who had the Chinavirus, herd immunity should be NOW, but it is not. I am hearing of MANY people who have been vaccinated who are getting the Chinavirus but with “MILD” symptoms. But if there are symptoms, they can spread the virus. Also seeing in the news of vaccinated people dying.

So for me,D3, zinc, eat and stay healthy, etc. I may try to get some Ivermectin and/or hydroxychloroquine. We will be traveling almost continuously for the next few months.

Finally, the OBiden open boarders plan is bringing massive numbers of infected illegals into the country. All this spread is on the Democrats, but they are happy to reintroduce the lockdowns where possible.

And finally, “no profit there”, BS, and you are a moron to think they are not making a bundle on this crap.

Stu
Reply to  Drake
July 23, 2021 3:02 am

You might add Quercetin to your cocktail.

Drake
Reply to  Stu
July 23, 2021 12:34 pm

Stu,

After reading others commenting on Quercetin, as well as K2, I did some research and intend to do so. I am diabetic and have some concern, but not enough to risk the vaccine. Thank you for your concern.

Drake

Mike From Au
Reply to  Drake
July 23, 2021 2:21 pm

Hippocrates principal is that disease starts in the gut.

Fast forward today and the talk is about gut permeability. When the gut is permeable, LPS (Lipopolysacharide) which is released from bacteria when they die in the gut crosses the mucosal and epithelial lining in the gut and then into the bloodstream where it triggers an immune response very often leading to low grade chronic inflamation. Not good. In my case, i developed Pustular Psoriasis which my doctor and two other specialists opined was incurable and all i could do was take steroids and so on.

Not satisfied i addressed my leaky gut and did everything i could to rebuild it and at the time my favourite youtube biology nerd was Kiran Krishnan who is the chief science officer at Microbiome Labs. Their approach is to use spore based probiotics which actually do make it through the stomach so that the spores can germinate in the gut. The most important gut bacteria is Bacillus Subtilis and is arguably the most important bacteria in the animal kingdom.

Bacillus Subtilis has been outsourced by nature to make copious amounts of K2 and to up and down regulate other bacteria in the gut. Bacillus Subtilis is like the microbiomes gardener. It can sense bacterial dysbiosis and is able to knock out pathogens by releasing a targeted dose of an antiobiotic similar to bactitracin which was the first antibiotic discovered and isolated from Bacillus Subtilis. Bacilus Subtilis was first isolated from camel dung by German and French pharmaceutical company in the 1940’s from memory and used to treat dysentry and gut conditions in children etc ever since. It is also used extensively in agriculture to fix up dysbiosis in the soil and topical use on plants.

I did not use the Spore based probiotics from Microbiome Labs, however i did embark on learning how to make Natto which amongst other beans fermented with the same Bacilus Subtilis , the food with highest amount of vitamin K2 on the planet.

At first i did not know that the process of fermenting beans was practised throughout the world, Japan, Korea, China, India etc.

The process for fermenting beans is simplified here into steps. This is an ultra rough guide and it is quite flexible. I find using vegetation from the wild to get my Bacillus Subtilis starter culture makes a much better umami flavour than the Japanese starter culture in fact i found the Korean you tube videos on how to make fermented beans were much better and more detailed also. I usually mash up my fermented beans and mix it through pasta sauce or add it to light soups etc. It satisfies my need to add other codniments like cheese to my soups so it is really multi purpose. In my opinion, the japanese Natto is cultured to make it less smelly and so forth which definetly makes japanese style natto a lot less flavourful and less umami.

//First, soak the beans.

//Steam/boil/pressure cook the beans until soft.

//Boil a little vegetation like straw, dried grass, some leaves, or rice straw. (The boiling process kills all the other bacteria and only the high temperature resistant dormant Bacillus Subtilis spores remain on the boiled material.)

//Drain the bolied straw/other.

//Place a small amount of the sterilized material containing the spore starter culture on a shallow tray.

//Place a layer of about 30mm of steamed or pressure cooked beans on the first layer and then scatter a little more starter culture material on top and cover the tray but not completely. Some place some cling wrap over the tray and then make some small holes.

// Keep the tray of beans and starter culture at around 37 to 40 degrees Celsius.

//Incubate for a couple of days until the beans become sticky.

In my case, i had a complete remission of my Pustular Psoriasis and other health problems i was having like shortness of breath and poor circulation. I attribute the remission in shortness of breath other to the vitamin K2 found in the fermented beans and the restoration of my gut lining and renewed appetite to the work done by Bacillus Subtilis.

Hope it helps.

K2 is too expensive to buy in meaningful amounts and making ones own via fermented beans was an excellent and tasty solution in my case.

Mike From Au
Reply to  Mike From Au
July 23, 2021 3:10 pm

A talk about the immune system by my favourite biology nerd full of references for those who are discerning.

“Kiran Krishnan — The Microbiome’s Control of Immune Function501 views
Jul 6, 2021”

Drake
Reply to  Mike From Au
July 23, 2021 8:05 pm

Interesting, but what does a lazy person on the road do?

Do you have any specific brands that you used before making your own?

I often use cheese as a thickener in soups like minestrone, kale and other vegetable soups, so a substitute would be something I would use.

Mike From Au
Reply to  Drake
July 23, 2021 11:52 pm

Thanks Drake for the question.

Indeed i started from K2 supplement on a background of around 400mcg per day and the effect was obvious to me after about two or three weeks. No more breathlessness and it has stayed that way, however i pondered the ‘what if’ the source of this vitamin is as important as the vitamin itself being the workhorse of the ages, the immortal somewhat Bacillus Subtilis itself. Viable spores of BS have been found in the gut of bees in amber many thousands of years old.

Nearly every culture has at some time made the observation that cooked beans wrapped in banana leaves or rice stalks or other will eventually ferment under the right conditions and produce a superior nutrition to the bean itself that withstands spoiling to a large extent like the example of milk turning into yogurt or cheese.

My first batches of natto were made with commercially available styrene foam trays of natto that i later divided up into quarters to stir through some freshly boiled/steamed/pressure cooked beans, however, going to an asian or Japanese store is not something i wanted to do frequently, so my next challenge was to figure out how to make it from scratch, hence my very rough guide.

I like my wild inoculated fermented natto type beans better than the Japanese bought in a shop version because it is much cheesier in flavour and the japanese cloned variety of Bacillus Subtilis has been selected to not be as smelly and cheesy as the wild type process which is similar to the way Koreans make their fermented beans for example.

Here is a link to the types of natto i started with before i started making my Bacillus Subtilis fermented beans from scratch without the need of over the counter Natto or natto starter culture spores which are quite expensive. The trays are relatively affordable and provide about 800mcg of K2 per serving.

https://livejapan.com/en/article-a0002227/

A recent study a couple of days old.
“Impact of Bacillus in fermented soybean foods on human health”https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8285709/

Mike From Au
Reply to  Mike From Au
July 23, 2021 11:52 pm
Mike From Au
Reply to  Mike From Au
July 24, 2021 2:26 am

A little more cultural detail pertaining to Bacillus Subtilis. In South Africa it is called Ogiri. In Korea the preparation and use of this wonderful bacteria is on another marketing level of awareness. Method of production is detailed and is the basis of such dishes as dead body soup. Probiotics in the west is still in the dark ages. In my opinion.
“Amazing skills of making Dead body soup (Cheonggukjang) / 청국장 / Korean street food”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj1wA2SeiJo

Mike From Au
Reply to  Mike From Au
July 24, 2021 2:28 am

Mike From Au
Reply to  Mike From Au
July 24, 2021 3:48 am

Forgive my indulgence on the idea that the west is in the probiotic dark ages
https://dobbyssignature.com/food-profile-ogiri-iru-dawadawa-okpei/

Mike From Au
Reply to  Mike From Au
July 24, 2021 3:53 am

Forgive my additional indulgence that the west is in the probiotic dark ages.

https://dobbyssignature.com/food-profile-ogiri-iru-dawadawa-okpei/

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Mike From Au
July 24, 2021 4:32 am

“Hippocrates principal is that disease starts in the gut.”

I just read about a study where two groups of people were fed certain diets. One diet was a normal diet of healthy foods minus any foods that had been fermented, such as cottage cheese or yogurt. And the other group were allowed to eat fermented foods.

The first group that did not eat fermented foods, did not see any enhancement or change in the organisms in their stomachs, but those who ate the yogurt and cottage cheese saw substantial increases in beneficial organisms in their stomachs, which contribute to enhancing the human immune system.

I would recommend that everyone start eating yogurt and cottage cheese, if they are not already doing so. That’s what I’m doing. 🙂

Mike From Au
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 24, 2021 5:36 am

The whole talk is elucidating by Kiran and Tina Anderson in the link below, however there are considerations. From memory, there have been clinical trials involving both live and dead yogurt. The live or dead yogurt was equally beneficial to the exisiting microbiome.
https://youtu.be/xrro5jUIBYY?t=2016

Drake
Reply to  Mike From Au
July 24, 2021 8:53 am

Mike,

Thank you for all your great information.

As to Tom above, I guess I am lucky that I enjoy a breakfast of 1 C frozen blueberries, thawed with 1 C cottage cheese, with cinnamon and flax several times a week. I guess, without knowing the benefit, I have been getting some fermented food.

I love this site. WUWT posters provide so much added knowledge that it is quite honestly astounding how mush one can learn on a daily basis, and Charles and Andrew allowing side tracks like this to run is also a great benefit of sensible moderation, Thanks Charles!

Drake

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Drake
July 24, 2021 4:22 am

“So for me,D3, zinc, eat and stay healthy, etc. I may try to get some Ivermectin and/or hydroxychloroquine.”

That’s a good idea. Dexamthasone is also proving to be very effective in treating the Wuhan virus.

Keep in mind that Pfizer says they have a new drug, in pill form, which they claim will be ready for public release in about six months, that can stop all forms of Corona virus and variants in their tracks. That’s the way it is working in mouse models right now.

If it works like Pfizer says, then this medicine could substitute for a vaccination.

All indications are that, whatever you use to treat the Wuhan virus, you should start the treatment as soon as possible after discovering you are infected. The sooner you start, the quicker you eliminate the virus from your body.

The Wuhan virus is a nasty virus. It’s doing all sorts of harm to the human body. So get it out of there quick!

Drake
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 24, 2021 8:52 am

Tom,

Thank you for this and your above comment.

I find it interesting that Pfizer will be ready to come out with a medication that will do the job on the Chinavirus, but not until after they have sold as many doses of their vaccine as practical, considering the number of people like my wife and I who will not accept the stick.

Just because you are a conspiracy theorist doesn’t mean it is not a conspiracy!

BTW, in this mornings paper: The OBiden DOJ, you know, with Merrick Garland, the supposed moderate Obama SCOTUS appointee as Attorney General, is dropping all investigations of Democrat governors for sticking active Chinavirus patients into nursing homes, what a surprise!

Drake.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Drake
July 25, 2021 8:01 am

“BTW, in this mornings paper: The OBiden DOJ, you know, with Merrick Garland, the supposed moderate Obama SCOTUS appointee as Attorney General, is dropping all investigations of Democrat governors for sticking active Chinavirus patients into nursing homes, what a surprise!”

The corrupt, compromised Biden administration is also dropping charges against six or eight Chinese scientists, one of whom admitted publicly that he was spying for the Chicoms.

When you get in bed with the Chicoms like Biden and his son have done in the past, that limits the actions you can take against the Chicoms. You don’t want all those under-the-table money deals made public, so you go easy on the Chicoms.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 24, 2021 11:48 am

Tom Abbot posted: “Keep in mind that Pfizer says they have a new drug, in pill form, which they claim will be ready for public release in about six months, that can stop all forms of Corona virus and variants in their tracks.”

Per Section 312.7 from Title 21 the US Code of Federal Regulations, it against the law for “a sponsor or investigator, or any person acting on behalf of a sponsor or investigator,” to represent in a promotional context that an investigational new drug is safe or effective for the purpose for which it is under investigation or otherwise promote the drug . . . to preclude commercialization of the drug before it is approved for commercial distribution.” (my bold emphasis added)

Since Pfizer’s “new drug, in pill form” has obviously not yet been approved by the FDA for commercial distribution, Pfizer is in violation of existing law (Section 312.7 of Title 21 of US CFR) if what Tom Abbot claims is true.

Of course, this would not be the first time Pfizer is caught with its hand in the cookie jar:

“In 2004, Pfizer agreed to pay $430 million in a DOJ settlement and pleaded guilty to two violations of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act for marketing the drug Neurontin, also known as gabapentin, for unapproved uses.
“According to a statement from the DOJ, the Warner-Lambert company – which Pfizer acquired in 2000 – promoted Neurontin “even when scientific studies had shown it was not effective.”

and

In 2009, there was “a settlement involving Pfizer in which the company pleaded guilty to a federal criminal charge relating to the marketing of four drugs. The company agreed to pay $2.3 billion as part of the settlement.
“The Pharmacia & Upjohn Company – a subsidiary of Pfizer – agreed to plead guilty to a felony violation of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act for misbranding the painkiller Bextra “with the intent to defraud or mislead,” according to the Department of Justice.”

Source of above quoted text excerpts related to Pfizer’s settlements related to misleading advertising: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/05/19/fact-check-resolved-lawsuits-against-pfizer-alleged-marketing-fraud/4857499001/

But, sure, go ahead and believe Pfizer has your best interests in mind!

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 22, 2021 11:56 pm

You don’t have the best reputation for honesty and clear thinking due to your post history.

Loydo
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 12:26 am

Well sone to you and simon for trying to counter some of the ignorant, dangerous crackpot bs being spread in this thread. The ad hom attacks on you for doing so should be a source of shame for the the author of this article and the publishers of this blog. Alas they appear shameless.

Loydo
Reply to  Loydo
July 23, 2021 1:30 am

Sorry Izaak, you too deserve a medal for making the effort.

Derg
Reply to  Loydo
July 23, 2021 3:25 am

You are a known liar

Loydo
Reply to  Derg
July 23, 2021 3:39 am

Yet you can’t provide any evidence.

Derg
Reply to  Loydo
July 23, 2021 2:28 pm

Russia colluuuusion;)

Drake
Reply to  Derg
July 23, 2021 10:08 pm

Ah, but Russian Collusion is obvious:

Hilbillary sold out US uranium stocks while SS
Billhillary took $800,000.00 speaking fees from Russian companies at the same time.
OBiden approved the Russian pipeline while cancelling the Canadian pipeline.

So there is Russian Collusion!!

You meant with TRUMP!? Sorry, my bad. Yep, that was total BS. And Loydo as all over it.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Loydo
July 24, 2021 12:34 pm

That coming from an ignorant dangerous crackpot spreading BS on this thread.

Steve4192
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 4:01 am

LOL

Just because you aren’t paying when they stick the jab in your arm doesn’t mean Big Pharma isn’t getting paid. Uncle Sam already paid them WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS, so in truth, you paid. There is a reason pharma stock prices are shooting through the roof, and it’s not because of their generosity and civic spirit. It’s because they are making money hand over fist off the jabs, and figure to make even more in the future with booster shots every 6-12 months.

John Tillman
Reply to  Steve4192
July 23, 2021 1:37 pm
Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Steve4192
July 23, 2021 6:27 pm

The “vaccines” have created a number of new billionaires while people were dying when denied the drugs that could have cured them.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 5:16 am

no profit for a brief time, then whammo

Kevin A
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 8:15 am

“Free”? I visited my doctor recently, ask about a prescription for an antiviral and was told no, I could get the ‘vaccine’ for free while I was there. I made an excuse about not having the time and left, spent the next days collecting information:

  1. Free, no, the tax payers have paid huge bucks to the ‘vaccine’ manufactures.
  2. It is not by definition a ‘vaccine’, it enters your body and produces viral spikes to elicit neutralizing antibodies reducing your immune system effectiveness, it does not prevent you from being infected by the CCP virus, if it doesn’t kill you or cause severe health issues it lessens the CCP virus effect since your body is already full of neutralizing antibodies looking for something to kill.
  3. The CCP virus ‘vaccine’ has not been approved, it is in trial use, the testing on animals was stopped in 2012 when mRNA test killed all the treated animals. The manufactures of the ‘vaccine’ will not/ have not provided any documentation on their animal tests.
  4. The FDA did not approve Moderna or Pfizer mRNA gene therapeutics they dubbed “vaccines”. It simply authorized them (they are allowed to do this since there is NO OTHER TREATMENTS). Fauci confirms. The Australian government uses the term poison in reference to the “vaccines”. The Clinical Trials are currently underway and won’t end until October 2022 for Moderna, and May 2023 for Pfizer. Humans are the guinea pigs.

Failure to provide informed consent constitutes a crime against humanity, for which Nazi doctors were hung, and the reason new trials are slated.

Search No Jab For Me – Americas Frontline Doctors – C19early

In initial deals with the US government, Pfizer and BioNTech’s vaccine costs $19.50 per dose, compared with $15 for Moderna’s shot, $16 for Novavax’s, $10 for Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine and $4 for AstraZeneca’s.

June 2021 140 million * $19.50 = $2.73 billion
Free?

ghalfrunt
Reply to  Kevin A
July 23, 2021 9:43 am

kevin Americas Frontline Doctors are these the ones suggesting womens “problems” are caused by dreaming of sex with a demon. Whose leader Simone Gold  and whose communications director John Strand were part of the 6th Jan insurrection
They should certainly be listened to!

David Vicknair
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 3:28 pm

Please, there was no Jan 6 insurrection, except the one in.Nancy Pelosi’s head. Sex with a demon? That’s preposterous! Provide your evidence or go slink away.

Bill Powers
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 24, 2021 12:43 pm

No ghalfrump, Americas Frontline Doctors are suggesting that girls can be boys if they close their eyes, click their heels 3 times while chanting “there’s no place like home and the boys room at school.”

In addition to a mountain of other bureaucratic nonsense they have been feeding post 1990 public high school gradiates with 8th grade reading proficiency and 4th grade math skills, it is not about the truth but how gullible the masses.

buggs
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 11:10 am

You horribly misunderstand economics. “Free” to the recipient doesn’t remotely mean no massive profit for the drug companies. In Canada, the government is providing the vaccines to the population for “free”. Here’s the catch, the government has no money, the taxpayers provide that money. Worse, in Canada, because our government screwed up early acquisition of the drug so badly, the Canadian government paid four times the price that England did for the Astra Zeneca vaccine on a per dose basis. So the Canadian tax payer is paying four times the amount that the English tax payer is paying. Regardless of the country involved and whether the recipient of the vaccine pays directly out of pocket or not, the vaccine is indeed paid for. None of the pharmaceutical companies are doing this for free.

If Ivermectin proves useful as a treatment (not a cure and not a replacement for effective vaccine therapy) in severely reducing the number of hospitalizations (and deaths) it could effectively be an alternate approach to the vaccine for those that do not wish to rush into a rushed vaccine (most countries it only has emergency approval, not full approval) and could significantly impact the bottom line for those pharmaceutical companies.

I’ve never had particular issues with pharmaceutical companies and a for profit model, but there are a great many who do. The reputations and general respect accorded to pharmaceutical manufacturers has changed dramatically over the past 18 months. I wonder why that is?

Max P
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 11:50 am

ghalfrunt. Would that be Gag Halfrunt? If it is, I find that screen name entirely appropriate.

For those who do not know…

Gag Halfrunt is the sinister bastard from the ‘Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy’ that arranged the destruction of the Earth so it wouldn’t ruin his psychology practice by answering what the meaning of life is.

icisil
Reply to  Derg
July 22, 2021 4:16 pm

Ivermectin is a remarkable molecule. That’s coming from someone who eschews all pharmaceuticals.

The mechanisms of action of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-021-00430-5.pdf

jmorpuss
Reply to  Derg
July 22, 2021 4:27 pm

World-first COVID-19 antiviral therapy developed in Brisbane and US targets virus in the body

Not a cure, but will save lives

Professor McMillan said although it was “not a cure”, it was a therapy that could reduce the amount of virus in the lungs by 99.9 per cent, “so it is almost as good as a cure”.

“It is really for those people who are suffering for example in ICU, where vaccines are too late,” he said.

Professor McMillan said traditional antivirals like zanamivir and remdesivir reduced symptoms and helped people recover earlier.

“Where this therapy actually stops the virus replicating, so the body can repair itself and the recovery will be much quicker,” he said.

World-first COVID-19 antiviral therapy developed in Brisbane and US targets virus in the body – ABC News

Alex
Reply to  Derg
July 23, 2021 1:24 am

Those in Latin America take ivermectin. It is their “normal” Covid-medication as there are no vaccines or other expensive drugs.
No effect observed.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777389

buggs
Reply to  Alex
July 23, 2021 11:21 am

Mild covid cases showed the no effect. I’d be very curious about more serious cases. There are many cases of mild covid, as defined, that require no treatment. In that respect I wouldn’t find the outcome particularly surprising. In Canada we aren’t treating mild Covid with anything. Anything more than mild ends up in the hospital. If Ivermectin can keep people out of hospital or get them out of there without heading to the ICU, it’s well worth investigation.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  buggs
July 24, 2021 4:53 am

“In Canada we aren’t treating mild Covid with anything.”

That is the mistake being made in the United States, too.

Every Wuhan virus infection should be treated right from the start. Sitting at home and not treating it is rolling the dice on your life. This is the official position of the American Medical Authorities.

You may be mostly unaffected by the Wuhan infection, but then again, you might be severely affected by the infection. Treating early with Ivermectin will not harm a person, so there is little reason not to treat it, and early treatment may prevent those susceptible to the disease from getting into critical condition. There is nothing to lose by treating with Ivermectin, and there might be a lot to gain by doing so.

Ragnaar
Reply to  Alex
July 23, 2021 1:38 pm

They frame it as no effect. But there were many improvements if you look for them. And the average age of those in the study was young. Which isn’t the point. The young are strong. And they recover. They framed it as a fail. You can see that. But it wasn’t one.

Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 2:16 pm

Eric,
I am surprised you can write the phase “well supported by anecdotal evidence” with a straight face. If I were to claim that climate change is well supported by anecdotal evidence you would not doubt be shouting from the rooftops that that was rubbish and not science.

It is however true that the jury is still out on Ivermectin. Most peer reviewed studies with proper randomised controls find little to no positive effects. But there has not been a large scale properly designed study that can properly answer the question.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 2:27 pm

More BS from Ivan – Ivermectin works very well, HCQ works almost as well.

If you cannot get either, try Quercetin (ref Dr Vladimir Zelenko)..

Take with Vitamin D, C and Zinc.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 22, 2021 2:38 pm

Allan,
there is little to no scientific evidence that Ivermectin works. And only recently the largest study showing a positive effect was withdrawn due to fraud. See
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns

Currently no one has done a proper study to see whether or not Ivermectin is effective as a treatment. Thus it is too soon to say whether or not it works. HCQ on the other hand has repeatedly been shown to be ineffective in proper randomised studies.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 2:48 pm

You are wrong as always.

Richard (the cynical one)
Reply to  Krishna Gans
July 22, 2021 9:41 pm

Deliberately wrong.

Luke
Reply to  Richard (the cynical one)
July 23, 2021 3:41 am

Evil wrong.

Justin Burch
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 3:06 pm

Well there is this meta-analysis. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/
The author has since redone the meta-analysis without the Egyptian study and her results were even stronger in favour of Ivermectin. See the latest Dark Horse podcast for that.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Justin Burch
July 22, 2021 6:01 pm

That is nonsense. If you remove a positive trial from a meta-analysis there is no way that the results will end up stronger than before.

And even with the Egyptian study included the conclusion was that there was only “moderate” evidence that Ivermectin was effective. Removing the Egyptian study is likely to reduce the quality of the evidence and also the size of the effect.

With all that said, there is still evidence that Ivermectin is effective at reducing death. But it is a long way short of what would be consider good quality. As I stated at the start the jury is still out on the efficiency of Ivermectin. Furthermore even at best Ivermectin reduces the risk of death by about 50% compared to 90+% for the vaccines.

rbabcock
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 6:14 pm

Furthermore even at best Ivermectin reduces the risk of death by about 50% compared to 90+% for the vaccines.”

So you are admitting Ivermectin actually reduces the risk of death by a substantial amount? Thank you! An easy to make, transport and store drug that reduces the risk of death substantially! Keep in mind a 90% effective vaccine is 0% effective if you can’t get it to the village in nowheresville.

I’m vaccinated but I live in a first world country. Not so easy for most people in the world.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  rbabcock
July 23, 2021 3:29 am

Rbabcock

I think it is downright humorous to hear on the CBC, loons punting vaccines saying they will not associate with people who have not been vaccinated. They fear getting the Delta variant from them, they say.

This reflects an interesting level of ignorance – the vaccines do not prevent someone getting any of the variants. The idea is it helps manage the consequences when that happens. You are protected until you encounter a strain that evades your prepared defenses.

I assume then, that these vaccinated individuals prefer to catch the Delta variant from a vaccinated person instead of an unvaccinated one, yes?

Consider this: if a vaccinated person has the Delta variant (or more likely a variation of it) then their body will defeat the regular strains and allow the vaccine-evading strains to proliferate. Someone who only hangs around with vaccinated people is therefore more likely to encounter a vaccine-evading strain than they will if they associate with the unvaccinated deplorables who carry the mundane strain(s).

I see some Darwin Award aspirants lurking about.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
July 23, 2021 5:25 am

Personally, I do not care if someone else is vaccinated or not.
Why should I?
If vaccines do not prevent infection, then either we have to lock down and isolate literally forever, or we will each have to be exposed to and have our immune system deal with the virus.
Then it will be over with.
So let’s get on with getting it over with.

BTW…no one seems to be mentioning the disparities between the different vaccines.
And how these disparities match up with disparities in how each vaccine does vs each variant.

With regard to variants, the newest and best data indicates that delta is more transmissible but less deadly that the original or than some of the other variants.

A new study was released Wednesday regarding real world vs clinical trial efficacy of two vaccines, and also how these two did vs two strains of the virus.

The summary is about as follows:

Real world results, after two shots,
Pfizer is about 93.7% effective vs alpha, and 88% vs delta.
AstraZeneca (AZ) is about 74.5% effective vs alpha and about 67% vs delta

Real world, after one shot, both showed similar results,
each was ~ 30% effective vs delta, and ~ 48.7% effective vs alpha.

Those results are regarding efficacy at preventing infection.
For both, efficacy vs severe infection and/or death was considerably higher.
Those details can be gotten from other reports that are linked in the study document:
Effectiveness of Covid-19 Vaccines against the B.1.617.2 (Delta) Variant | NEJM

Of course, for anyone who does not believe in the virus or in vaccines, this is all meaningless gobbledygook.

What that adds up to is, after two doses, the delta variant was only marginally more able to overcome the protection offered by the vaccine vs mild illness.
But the baseline efficacy of the vaccines is rather large, and when coupled with the reductions in efficacy vs variants, the upshot is that 12% of people fully vaccinated with Pfizer will become infected if exposed, while almost three times as many, some 33%, of those fully vaccinated with AZ will become infected if exposed to the delta strain.

Since so many people are not being vaccinated, and few are ever gonna consider it acceptable to have forced vaccinations, it is just a matter of time before everyone gets exposed, unless we lock down and isolate forever and do so perfectly.
None of which things are possible or feasible or in any way desirable.
So, given all of that, it seems to me an inescapable logical conclusion that at some point we are all gonna have to deal with this virus in our body, and come what may of it.
I am ready to get it over with, for myself, and am looking to enroll in a direct challenge study.

And the reason I am willing to do that and not at all worried, is because the virus was never highly lethal to any but the very old and very sick, and even among those people, most survived even before therapeutics and experience is managing the severe form of the disease made deaths more rare than ever.

The US, for example, has highly effective monoclonal antibody drugs in virtually every hospital, in large supply, going unused.
It is a scandal, and another thing no one is talking about.
For anyone with no insurance, clinical trials are readily available to get one of those, or any of several other therapeutics.

And finally, what do the vaccines do vs severe covid leading to death?
Why are people talking about “cases”, when most of the cases, even among the unvaccinated, are either non symptomatic or only mildly symptomatic?
All we ever really had to worry about was getting a severe case.
So, how have the vaccines altered the risk of dying?

First we need to keep in mind that most of the people in older age cohorts have been vaccinated, no one under a certain age has been vaccinated, and age is generally inversely correlated with vaccination rates.
So the vaccinated tend to be those that are at the most risk to begin with.
Here in the US, many states have by now published details of the particulars of who has died among the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
I for one try to stick to plainly worded stats, and pay less attention to those that are worded in a convoluted manner.

OK, large state, Texas, deaths since February.

All but 43 Texas COVID-19 deaths since February were unvaccinated people | The Texas Tribune
As of Monday, only about 42.8% of Texans are fully vaccinated, so a lot less than that were vaccinated back when these numbers are going back to.
In spite of that, the report is starkly favorable for vaccination.
There have been 8,787 deaths due to covid in Texas since Early February.
Of those 8,787 deaths, a total of 43 of them have occurred among individuals who were fully vaccinated at the time they died.
Most are not vaccinated, and most vulnerable people are, but in spite of that, over 99.5% of all the deaths in Texas have been amongst the unvaccinated.
These numbers will be more able to discern the true risk as time goes by, of course.

We know from the earliest reports of the clinical trials that the vaccines are not 100% effective against even the original strain.
So it is no surprise some people get sick and some die anyway.
Vaccines can only work to the extent that a person is able to generate an acquired immune response.
This ability wanes with age.
People on certain medications have their immune system switched off…people with autoimmune conditions who take drugs like Remicade or Enbrel or any of the others in this class.
Also anyone with cancer has a high likelihood of a greatly impaired immune system, especially if they have undergone recent chemo or radiation therapy.
So at any given time, a large number of people are not capable of generating an immune response when vaccinated.
This has been true even with the best vaccines.
From the earliest vaccines, the idea was always to give a person higher chance of getting a mild or asymptomatic infection.
Vaccines cannot kill anything before they enter the body, or even immediately after they do so.
What they do is eliminate the lag that first time exposure to a given antigen entails before an acquired immune response to that specific antigen can be generated.
At best.

Frankly, my opinion is that anything close to 90+% effectiveness is a miracle.
An honest to God miracle.
Even if we had only a single successful vaccine candidate.
That is my opinion.
And we have, to a large degree, Donald Trump to thank for coming up with a plan to cut out the usual years of red tape, foot dragging, and delays, and also to take the unprecedented step of having the federal government fund manufacturing of the vaccines before they were even tested, so that we might have them faster if and when any proved safe and effective.

I also place the blame for vaccine doubt where it belongs, with those people who spent most of 2020 saying they would never take a “Trump Vaccine”.

Here is a mashup of the two worst offenders in this regard:

Biden’s crusade to undermine vaccine confidence”
https://twitter.com/KyleMartinsen_/status/1416094954603044864?s=20

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 24, 2021 5:25 am

“With regard to variants, the newest and best data indicates that delta is more transmissible but less deadly that the original or than some of the other variants.”

This is usually the way viruses evolve, isn’t it? They get less dangerous with time? If it went the other way, they would eventually k!ll off their host.

Your other comments were excellent, too.

Jean Parisot
Reply to  rbabcock
July 23, 2021 4:54 pm

I just got back from a swing thru rural Africa, Ivermectin is available and will be used if COVID becomes an issue. The infrastructure to support a vaccination was not.

grant
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 6:16 pm

The study was positive, but not as positive as the others in the use as a prophylactic. Thus when withdrawn, the core result showed a better result, but the range of possibility increased

wadesworld
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 11:31 pm

If you’re lying in an ICU, it’s too late for a vaccine. Wouldn’t you want them to give Ivermectin a try?

TonyG
Reply to  wadesworld
July 23, 2021 10:32 am

“Wouldn’t you want them to give Ivermectin a try?”

Izaak and ghalfront would appear to prefer they let you d!e.

andy in epsom
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 12:49 am

Everyone has laughed off your pathetic attempts tolie about global warming but what you are lying about here will kill people. you must be an extremely evil person.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 3:17 am

The jury is out? They are out all right, trying to find a source of Ivermectin. They will be back when they get some under the counter.

David A
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 4:45 pm

If the removed positive study is less positive then the balance of peer reviewed studies , then of course the net positive will increase with said removal.

The evidence of Ivermectin being effective is overwhelming. Read the studies! Look at the results in many nations.

(I would not be one bit surprised that the removal of the study was false and political. Your use of the word “fraud” certainly is telling.)

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John Larson
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 24, 2021 3:05 pm

This really does sound illogical to me;

If you remove a positive trial from a meta-analysis there is no way that the results will end up stronger than before.”

If the trial removed was less positive than the cumulative average of all the studies, why wouldn’t that cause the remaining cumulative average positive numbers to rise? Am I missing something, some specialized meaning of the word ‘stronger’ perhaps, or did you just make an illogical statement there?

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 3:44 pm

Izaak the Idiot, where is the evidence that the mRNA gene treatments work as advertised?

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 23, 2021 7:45 am

Note: no response.

icisil
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 4:00 pm

There’s no scientific evidence, as you frame it, that PEEP in mechanical ventilation is beneficial or has saved a single life. Yet doctors out of fear used it as a first resort to treat covid patients, contrary to decades of clinical practice that relegated it to last resort due to its harmful effects.

There is an abundance of clinical evidence that ivermectin is very effective. And at this point that’s all that’s really necessary. It’s very safe and cheap, so there’s absolutely no downside to trying it. Only a criminally homicidal mind that cares more about purist “science” than peoples’ lives would disagree. Medicine is as much experience and informed hunch as it is your kind of purist science that realistically only very deep pockets can fund. And we know that they don’t fund anything they can’t profit from and control.

Chris*
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 5:08 pm

There has been many studies and meta studies completed and Ivermectin works. Ivermectin is being used around the world, in those countries that can’t afford expensive vaccines. Many Indian states use it , Indonesia, Mexico, South Africa. The data is out there – just don’t expect it be in the MSM. Remember vaccines will not be authorised if there is an available cure, as the saying goes ‘follow the money’.

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Chris*
July 22, 2021 6:18 pm

Zimbabwe has a huge shortage of medicines but a supply of cheap Ivermectin which seems to have been beneficial to doctors working at the coal face.

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Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
July 23, 2021 3:37 am

Zimbabwe is an excellent case study. They have nearly nothing else so they went with what they could afford. Their case count is low, the death count is low, their tolerance of BS from Big Pharma is low. It is possible they could have done even better with vaccines, but we are not going to know.

There is some mention above that the vaccines are “free” to poor countries. That is a sop to the masses. The whole campaign is to get vaccines approved (they are not) and make them mandatory. That is a multi-trillion dollar play over 10 years. They can afford to hand some freebies to the penurious.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Chris*
July 23, 2021 6:37 pm

Here is a study that was recently released:
Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
It is here for the reading:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

Conclusion:
In summary, based on the totality of the trials and epidemiologic evidence presented in this review along with the preliminary findings of the Unitaid/WHO meta-analysis of treatment RCTs and the guideline recommendation from the international BIRD conference, ivermectin should be globally and systematically deployed in the prevention and treatment of COVID-19.

Since the Summer of 2020, there has been a large increase in peer reviewed studies on the efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine, Vitamin D, Zinc, and Ivermectin. There are now over 200 studies showing the efficacy of HCQ, Vitamin D, Zinc, and Ivermectin:
https://c19study.com/
Why is this evidence being ignored by the medical community?


Tom Abbott
Reply to  Gerald Machnee
July 24, 2021 5:32 am

“Why is this evidence being ignored by the medical community?”

Why indeed.

Big Pharma seems to be the answer. They have a vested interest in treatments being ignored, and the authorities seem to be in their pockets.

Beeze
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 9:34 pm

The withdrawal of that study makes no difference to the meta-analysis. It was consistent with heaps of other studies that are conveniently ignored.

The scientific evidence is literally overwhelming at this point.

https://ivmmeta.com/

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 3:15 am

There is no claim for “fraud” there are ethical concerns – bad data management and plagerism.

Indonesia shows, at scale, that ivermectin works well. Many thousands of lives have been saved until the government banned its use a few weeks ago – with deadly result – a 500% increase in fatalities in a month. Idiots!

The vaccine producers have a major interest in claiming that no inexpensive and widely available drug works well. If one or more do, they will not get government sponsorship for vaccine development and distribution. American law. Read it.

Quercetin, Colchicine, Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine and kilo-doses of Vitamin D3 all show dramatic benefit without the dreadful side effects of emergency-use mRNA vaccines. Thousands of lives have been saved by the vaccines. Also, thousands of people’s lives have been ruined by reactions to the vaccines. They are immature technologies. I have confidence they will one day work well; this is not that day.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
July 24, 2021 5:35 am

“Indonesia shows, at scale, that ivermectin works well. Many thousands of lives have been saved until the government banned its use a few weeks ago – with deadly result – a 500% increase in fatalities in a month. Idiots!”

Look at the example of India. They had Indian States that promoted taking Ivermectin and Indians States that banned Ivermectin.

In the States that promoted Ivermectin, infection rates and death rates fell dramatically.

In the States that banned Ivermectin, infection rates and death rates climbed dramatically.

What more evidence does one need?

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 5:45 am

funny how there arent “official studies” when they sure have time etc to have done so???
but then off patent isnt going to make billions is it?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 22, 2021 3:15 pm

Actually, studies for re-purposing approved drugs have come up with about 30 different drugs that all seem to work about as well. Take your choice! Even placebos seem to work nearly as well.

Roger Knights
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
July 22, 2021 10:40 pm

Link?

Notanacademic
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 22, 2021 3:25 pm

I couldn’t get hydroxychoroquine so my wife and I take quercetin, zinc, d3, k2 mark 7 and vit c amongst other supplements daily. If these easily obtainable things suddenly become harder or impossible to get I will not be surprised.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 22, 2021 3:27 pm

ACC600 (NAC) is even used at hospitals and may prevent, or help prevent COV19

Tom Abbott
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 24, 2021 5:05 am

“If you cannot get either, try Quercetin (ref Dr Vladimir Zelenko)..
Take with Vitamin D, C and Zinc.”

I still take all that stuff, and I’ve been vaccinated.

And if I do get the Wuhan infection, I will take Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine as soon as I realize I’m infected. I have both drugs on hand.

I’m not taking any chances with the Wuhan virus. I don’t want blood clots appearing in my various organs, and will do everything I can think of to keep that from happening.

My main question about the Wuhan virus is, how long does it take for the virus to start doing real damage to the human system? It is obvious that the longer the virus stays in your body, the more damage it does, but what about the first week or two? What’s it doing then?

The Wuhan virus discombobulates the human immune system. How long does it take to do this? We know that some people who were asymptomatic still developed long-term after-effects from the infection, so even though the person felt no strong symptoms, their bodies still sustained damage to their immune systems. Could this have been prevented by early treatment?

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 25, 2021 7:19 am

DOCTORS RAISE AWARENESS ON IVERMECTIN TREATMENT FOR COVID-19
By Meiling Lee July 24, 2021
[excerpt]

In an effort to help end the pandemic, an international coalition of medical experts is holding worldwide events Saturday to raise awareness about the effectiveness of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19.

Organizers of the World Ivermectin Day say doctors and supporters of the inexpensive FDA-approved drug will host free online and public events in over a dozen countries.

Two nonprofits—Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care (FLCCC) Alliance and the British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) group—who have been campaigning for the off-label use of ivermectin to prevent and treat COVID-19 say the event’s focus is to let more people know that the antiparasitic drug can treat COVID-19, possibly end the pandemic, and help eliminate fear of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.

“We have an incredibly positive and uplifting message to share: ivermectin treats and prevents COVID and it is the key to unlocking the never-ending cycle of pandemic peaks and personal restrictions and will help restart economies,” Dr. Tess Lawrie, cofounder of the BIRD group said in a press release.

Lawrie is also a co-author of a peer-reviewed meta-analysis study published in the American Journal of Therapeutics that found ivermectin to be effective against COVID-19, the disease caused by the CCP virus. Lawrie and her team concluded with a moderate level of confidence that ivermectin reduced the risk of death by an average of 62 percent, at a 95 percent confidence interval of 0.19-0.73, especially when prescribed early.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 25, 2021 7:27 am

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT EARLY AT-HOME COVID TREATMENT
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola July 25, 2021

STORY AT-A-GLANCE

·        Perhaps one of the greatest crimes in this whole pandemic is the refusal by reigning heath authorities to issue early treatment guidance. Instead, they’ve done everything possible to suppress remedies shown to work, whether it be corticosteroids, hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) with zinc, ivermectin, vitamin D or NAC

·        According to Dr. Peter McCullough, 85% of COVID deaths could have been prevented had early treatment protocols been widely implemented rather than censored

·        It appears the intense censoring and suppression of early treatments was a strategy to promote as much fear, suffering, hospitalization and death as possible in order to prepare the population to accept a new genre of gene transfer technologies on a mass scale

·        The overwhelming drive to get a “needle in every arm” is such that health authorities are not even acknowledging the fact that those who have recovered from COVID-19 and many groups have no possibility of benefiting from the vaccine, including younger individuals, pregnant women, women of childbearing potential, and those with immunodeficiencies

·        Despite FDA warnings for myocarditis with Pfizer and Moderna and cavernous venous thrombosis with Johnson & Johnson, the vaccine cabal keeps propaganda on full blast

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Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 25, 2021 10:54 am

TOP AMERICAN DOCTOR: COVID SHOTS ARE ‘OBSOLETE,’ DANGEROUS, MUST BE SHUT DOWN
The John-Henry Westen Show Published July 23, 2021
https://rumble.com/vk8cpw-top-american-doctor-covid-shots-are-obsolete-dangerous-must-be-shut-down.html

John-Henry speaks with Dr. Peter A. McCullough, one of the most qualified physicians on COVID-19 in the United States. They talk about the coronavirus vaccines and the censorship and bans of effective early treatments.

Dr. Peter A. McCullough , one of the most expert physicians on the planet, states that the mRNA and RNA COVID shots are ‘obsolete,’ dangerous, and must be shut down.

If you cannot watch the entire video, start at 27:00.

The four mRNA and RNA vaccines are relatively ineffective and highly dangerous.

These vaccines should never be given to  under-18’s – All Risk and No Reward for young people.

These vaccines should never be given to woman who can still have children.

They should probably not be given to anyone under 65 or 70 years of age.

Early treatment with safe drugs like Ivermectin is much better than the toxic vaccines. Why is Ivermectin effectively banned in many Western countries?

I will not take a toxic mRNA or RNA vaccines, nor will my child. Some say they are “kill shots”. I believe them.

HotScot
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 2:38 pm

Clinical trials of Ivermectin have had to be abandoned for ethical reasons because whilst the control group were dying in great numbers, those treated with Ivermectin weren’t.

As for peer reviewed studies, the editor of the Lancet stated that up to 50% of medical trials are junk.

In other words, toss a coin.

Observational studies of Ivermectin are universally successful and even if there is some confounding factor, the drug exhibits very few, mild side effects.

Sick to death hearing about peer reviewed studies. They are utter bunk.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 2:47 pm

Can you point to a single clinical study of Ivermectin that was stopped for ethical reasons because too many people were dying?

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 3:20 pm

Didier Raoult in Marseille didn’t start any placebo based study, as, as he said, his job is to heal people and pointed to hippocratical oath, but that was HCQ, not Ivermectin.

HotScot
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 3:41 pm

Can you? That’s your job. Disprove my hypothesis, or don’t you believe in science?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 11:14 pm

Sorry, HotScot, you made the claim, you should provide a link. Otherwise it’s just a gratuitous assertion.

gowest
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 3:52 pm

Craig kelly published nearly 100 before being banned / de-platformed by facebook. Actually it happened in New Delhi and Indonesia. You want mRNA spike proteins running around your body for the next 15 years – enjoy!

Patrick MJD
Reply to  gowest
July 22, 2021 4:08 pm

We were told that these proteins would not flood the body and spread to other parts. But now I have read posts where they have turned up in livers, kidneys, spleens etc etc.

Chris*
Reply to  Patrick MJD
July 22, 2021 5:18 pm

Patrick the latest study from Japan has shown after 48 hours the carrier for the vaccination ends up concentrated in the ovaries and the bone marrow. Which might explain the unnatural and heavy bleeding an unhealthy number of women have experienced . What will happen in the future -who knows? A pandemic of leukaemia and infertile women?

HotScot
Reply to  Chris*
July 22, 2021 5:46 pm

Dear God mate, I think we all hope you are wrong.

Pat Frank
Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 9:37 pm

See Peter McCullough’s interview. The situation with the mRNA treatment (it’s not a “vaccine”) is unbelievably bad.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Patrick MJD
July 23, 2021 6:03 am

stands to basic reason
blood goes everywhere so do antibodies

TonyG
Reply to  Patrick MJD
July 23, 2021 10:34 am

bone marrow, too

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 1:02 am

It’s not a new drug, it’s only a new use of it.
Side effects and contra indications are well known and documentated.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 3:43 am

Izaak

There were several. You should have no difficulty finding a few. If you were better informed on the topic before making broad statements you would not have to do so much catching up.

For the mechanism that allows a wide variety of drugs to have beneficial effects, see the videos at MedCram. What works and why they work is understood at the molecular level.

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 6:26 pm

Hot Scot
You are spot on about the reliability of peer review studies.
They are far less reliable than journals and scientists would want to admit.
However, publishing research and getting funding requires these.

Pat Frank
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
July 22, 2021 9:44 pm

The problem is not that peer-reviewed placebo-controlled studies are unreliable. It’s that they take years. One doesn’t have years during a pandemic.

Doctors experiment with promising treatments during a pandemic, and successful ones spread. This is how it has always worked, and worked well.

It’s only now, with Covid-19, that physicians’ engineering approach to treatment has been suppressed and even criminalized.

Those responsible for the suppression and criminalization for use of HCQ and Ivermectin have blood on their hands. They have caused hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths.

Those forcing experimental mRNA treatments on human subjects are little Mengeles, every one of them. They deserve jail.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Pat Frank
July 23, 2021 8:18 am

The other side to this sick story is that the virus jockeys (for lack of a better term) have been working on engineered bugs along with gene treatments for a very long time, way before February 2020. They have been applying for and receiving patents since 2002.

This is how it was known that effective treatments existed, and how these “vaccines” were rushed to market. All they had to do was figure out how to mass produce them.

Michael in Dublin
Reply to  Pat Frank
July 23, 2021 11:00 am

Pat

If an article is peer reviewed and the reviewers names and details do not appear under the article – which is the case with various journals – there is no way to discredit them for approving shoddy articles.

Only in a few instances have I seen reviewers names attached along with some brief comments – both positive and negative. This should be standard and journals discredited when they rip off researchers and libraries (that are captive customers).

David A
Reply to  Pat Frank
July 23, 2021 4:56 pm

And that the CDC and WHO have NOT done such studies is very telling of their malicious nature.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 2:47 pm

Read the scientific papers and stop to lie.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 2:50 pm

You may have a look ant India, what do you think let drop the new infections ?

Curious George
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 2:51 pm

I can give you a simple recipe how to scientifically prove that the HCQ does not work:

  1. HCQ was rumored to be effective only in early stages of the disease. So run your study on Intensive Care patients only.
  2. Carefully select the dose. As your patients are in late stages of the disease, the dose must be high. Make sure it is not lethal. Near lethal would do.
  3. Publish results showing that a double-blind clinical study of HCQ did not find any positive effect. Don’t emphasize the fact that your patients were poisoned with HCQ.

I remember reading a study that I just described.
Trump Derangement Syndrome. It kills people.

Hippocratic Oath be damned.

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Reply to  Curious George
July 22, 2021 3:08 pm

The dose has to be based on the patients weight.

OweninGA
Reply to  Curious George
July 22, 2021 6:02 pm

ahh, you are referring to the ever-ethical and dedicated to their patients and not one bit political people at the Veterans Administration. They have a large contingent of providers that don’t mind their patients dying as long as their government salary keeps coming in. (There are a few dedicated, ethical providers who routinely beat their heads against the wall of bureaucracy trying to do the right thing for their patients as well.) Thus I make sure to have insurance so I don’t need to rely on the VA.

That study was crap from start to finish. Killing all the virus by that point would not help the patient who is already suffering from an over-reactive immune system that is attacking the patients own lung tissue. (couldn’t remember how to spell Cytokine Storm so I wrote the description of it.) The dosing in several cases was very near the LD50 levels as well.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  OweninGA
July 24, 2021 5:45 am

I don’t think it was the VA that was responsible for the bad report about HCQ. Rather, it was an incorrect interpretation of the study done by a second party. They completely misrepresented the VA study.

Enginer01
Reply to  Curious George
July 22, 2021 6:51 pm

The early, anti-HCQ studies, which I wrote about >here< six months ago,with attendant criticisms, were mostly designed to fail by leaving out the D3 and zinc, or restricting to ‘clinical” treatment, mostly hospitalization, after the cytokine-storm began. It has been said that ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are ionophores, and their main purpose is to allow cellular entrance to zinc so the immune system can do it’s natural work.
I have noted, here, that I take USP ivermectin (2 grams 1% in Propylene glycol/Glycerol formal) every three weeks. So far, so good.

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  Curious George
July 23, 2021 3:51 am

Curious

Right on. They proceeded to try the same with ivermectin and … oops. It worked no matter what protocol they tried.

As COVID is not a lung disease, those who had cytokine storm damage did not find their lungs symptoms much improved – not unexpected. Closing the barn door after the horse has bolted doesn’t bring the horse back.

The silly trials with high dose HCQ and very sick patients were condemnable. Some licenses should have been pulled over those.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
July 23, 2021 6:28 am

One of the beauties of ivermectin is that the overdose rate is extremely high, meaning you can give two or three times the correct dose without hurting the patient. My “patients” all had four legs, used ivermectin for decades to de-worm sheep, cattle, and horses. It is nearly idiot-proof and an excellent medication to use on the farm.

David A
Reply to  Curious George
July 23, 2021 4:58 pm

George, and don’t forget, leave zinc out of the HCQ program. Most all of the negative studies did one to all three of the basic failures you mentioned.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 2:51 pm

The ivermectin evidence is no longer ‘only’ anecdotal, albeit not yet RDBPC gold standard. See my reference below.

HotScot
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 22, 2021 5:47 pm

Why does everything have to be gold standard? The ‘vaccinations’ most certainly are not.

William Astley
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 3:46 pm

Izaak, Your comment is 100% incorrect. Have you looked at any of the positive of the Ivermectin data?

Ivermectin works or it does not. Science is repeatable. When ‘science’ appears to not be repeatable… people with covid agendas are generating fake studies to block a life saving drug.

Why are people generating fake ‘science’ studies to block the Ivermectin as an early treatment for covid or as a covid prophylactic? Ivermectin stops covid from replicating. It cannot help half dead covid patients. It must be given as soon as symptoms appear.

Ivermectin is safe to use in humans. Ivermectin in in-vitro tests binds to the covid spike and stops the covid virus from infecting cells.
 
Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
 
https://assets-global.website-files.com/606d3dece4ec3c3866cc798a/609be2d665a92ea5cf61191f_Review_of_the_Emerging_Evidence_Demonstrating_the.4%20(2).pdf
 
In 4 of the studies, ivermectin was identified as having the highest or among the highest of binding affinities to spike protein S1 binding domains of SARS-CoV-2 among hundreds of molecules collectively examined, with ivermectin not being the particular focus of study in 4 of these studies.27
 
This is the same mechanism by which viral antibodies, in particular, those generated by the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines contain the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
 
A Canadian start-up company, MVMD, has an injectable form of Ivermectin which invitro tests have shown starts to reduce covid viral count in 20 minutes and clears all virus within 48 hours.
 
Ivermectin Soluble MVMD
 

https://www.bigmarker.com/sagacitycm/Mountain-Valley-MD?bmid=8677af510421
 
MOUNTAIN VALLEY MD RECEIVES SUCCESSFUL RESULTS FROM BSL-4 COVID-19 CLEARANCE TRIAL ON THREE VARIANTS TESTED WITH IVECTOSOL™ TORONTO, ON – May 18, 2021 – Mountain Valley MD Holdings Inc. (the “Company” or “MVMD”) (CSE: MVMD) (FRA:20MP) is pleased to announce it has received its thirdparty Bio Safety Level 4 (“BSL-4”) lab study results from its recent COVID-19 viral clearance study conducted with its solubilized Ivermectin technology – Ivectosol™.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  William Astley
July 23, 2021 8:21 am

He doesn’t care about what is or isn’t true—his objective is parroting the official party lies.

Richard G.
Reply to  William Astley
July 23, 2021 6:40 pm

Ivermectin is safe to use in humans. Ivermectin in in-vitro tests binds to the covid spike and stops the covid virus from infecting cells.

It is my understanding that Ivermectin binds to the ACE2 receptors, which are the binding sites that the spike protein attaches to to enter cells. Ivermectin blocks Spike Protein from binding to ACE2 receptors.
This stops viral replication in cells.
SSHhhh. Must not speak of such.

If I have scabies I can get a prescription for Ivermectin.
If I have COVID-19 I cannot.
(Aside in hushed voice: I have on hand enough Ivermectin to treat a horse.)

Accidental science: Nursing homes in France and the US that had scabies outbreaks treated ALL residents and care givers with IVERMECTIN. No Covid deaths. Anecdotal????

Richard G.
Reply to  Richard G.
July 23, 2021 7:03 pm

Which raises the troubling question: Is it the Ivemectin or the scabies that cures covid?

(Furled brow)

Gary Pearse
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 3:47 pm

Izaac, don’t be obtuse. What goes for experiments (testing) in climate science is model runs missing unknown numbers of agents affecting climate followed by fudging to hindcast the temperature record. The models themselves have proven without skill in forecasting anything.

Giving invermectin to 100s of thousands of patients and cutting the death rate by 80% is a hands on experiment. In addition it is a no-regrets test.

The climate cure costs a couple of hundred trillion, mass death to the poor from poverty (few trillion spent has a notable death toll already as people choose between heating and food) based on “testing” that has never, not one time, even by chance, delivered a useful forecast. It’s like rolling dice with hundreds of facets. It seems designed to be a huge regret medicine.

I’m sure you read the study out of the U of Oregon here today (done by wokies in the sociology department) that showed “liberals” accepted unreservedly the view of authorities and conservatives showed natural scepticism, much in line with that expected in good science! I note you absented yourself from that post. Anyway, you don’t have to be fast on your feet given the detailed talking points your colleagues provide.

Derg
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 6:36 pm

How many people died in the double blind study of the vaccine?

Enginer01
Reply to  Derg
July 23, 2021 1:38 pm

In this regard, a double blind study is much like assigning half of a rifle squad to “duck” if they hear gun fire, the other half to not duck. Purpose, to see if gunfire kills. Ivermectin >does not< kill, it helps.

Derg
Reply to  Enginer01
July 23, 2021 2:43 pm

Bingo

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 12:27 am

As a retired Chartered Structural Engineer, I re-state, that “anecdotal” evidence is important when carrying out a structural survey on a property, but it is “observational” evidence coupled up with physical opening up works (where practical) that is more important!!! Anecdotal evidence can be misleading, “he said/she said” etc!!!

Barnes Moore
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 4:42 am

There are a lot of ICU doctors around the world who would disagree with you. https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2021/07/19/world-ivermectin-day/

Jim Clarke
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 9:03 am

“If I were to claim that climate change is well supported by anecdotal evidence you would not doubt be shouting from the rooftops that that was rubbish and not science.”

First, I assume when you say ‘climate change’ that you are referring to man-made climate change. Secondly, I would point out that there is no anecdotal evidence of significant man-made climate change, so your statement would be a lie.

On the other hand, the lack of clinical trials on the so-called vaccines means there is no evidence that they are effective either. At least we know that Ivermectin and HCQ are as safe as, or safer than aspirin, while the jabs have produced more adverse reactions in a short time, than all vaccines that have come before.

Science is a process of collecting information and following that information to a logical conclusion. It is not a process of proclamations from authorities. Right now, we are collecting information. So far, the data is indicating that the jabs do little to stop the spread of the illness and may be causing tremendous harm. Time will tell.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Jim Clarke
July 24, 2021 5:54 am

“First, I assume when you say ‘climate change’ that you are referring to man-made climate change.”

I think that is what he is talking about.

Alarmists are a little loose with the language sometimes. They need skeptics to help them out with their descriptions and give the full picture.

Jim edwards
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 8:49 pm
Devils Tower
July 22, 2021 2:24 pm

For the latest on the subject go to flccc.net or https://covid19criticalcare.com/

To keep your options open….

Find a pharmacist in India that takes paypal

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Devils Tower
Reply to  Devils Tower
July 22, 2021 2:38 pm

To understand the big picture…

Harvard is a tax exempt hedge fund mascarading as a university (plus many others)

They own big pharma

All their political influence drives the media

The FDA/CDC/NIH does their bidding

I

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Devils Tower
July 22, 2021 11:18 pm

mascarading”

wow.

Newminster
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
July 23, 2021 3:12 am

Gives itself a black eye.

HotScot
Reply to  Devils Tower
July 22, 2021 2:41 pm

Finding an Indian business that accepts PayPal is easier said than done in my experience.

There is also the big risk of not getting what you expected. Indians are as skilled at ‘counterfeiting’ drugs as anyone else.

Devils Tower
Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 4:09 pm

If worried ask for picture of the delivery package front and back clearly showing the manufacture including date/lot/inspection codes. Make sure they have a PayPal business account so you know who they really are.

You will not get something like that from a china/amazon/eBay source

AleaJactaEst
Reply to  HotScot
July 23, 2021 1:57 am
Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  HotScot
July 23, 2021 6:37 am

Ivermectin is available from Agri-supply companies, such as Jeffers in the USA,and is very cheap. It comes in a liquid or paste, depending on desired application. The paste is usually sold in one- or two-dose tubes for horses. Jeffers sells their own brand ivermectin paste dewormer for horses, $4.99/tube. This is enough for a thousand pound horse. Simply do a little math to figure out the appropriate dose for a 50-Kilo human.

https://www.jefferspet.com/products/jeffers-ivermectin?via=5338848b9fa2600f00000196%2F533884929fa2600f00000221%2F533884949fa2600f00000257

TonyG
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
July 23, 2021 10:38 am

Ivermectin is available from Agri-supply companies

And out of stock almost everywhere I’ve seen

– but surprisingly not at that link…

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Pamela Matlack-Klein
Reply to  TonyG
July 23, 2021 11:28 am

When I raised livestock, Jeffers was my favorite go-to for supplies and meds because they ship really fast. If they have stock, as it said on their website, they have it. Anyway, worth trying.

July 22, 2021 2:24 pm

“Now, to create a market for our sh!t, we have to fake a pandemic!”

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/07/22/google-censorship-due-to-vaccine-investment.aspx

Guess Who Developed the Spike Proteins Used in COVID Vaccines
July 21, 2021

In a stunning analysis of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine candidates, patent applications and intellectual property claims, two researchers have discovered that the National Institutes of Health developed the stabilized version of the spike protein used in the vaccines.

Moderna, CureVAc, Pfizer and BioNTech all disclosed that their mRNA vaccine candidates employ the NIH’s protein. Not only that, the researchers said, “It is also important to note that the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Moderna entered into an agreement in 2019 to co-develop coronavirus vaccines; however, this was before the identification and spread of SARS-CoV-2.”

To repeat: Moderna and the NIH had an agreement to develop coronavirus vaccines BEFORE the identification and spread of SARS-CoV-2. “The NIH also has four other provisional patent applications on a novel coronavirus vaccine as disclosed in a recent publication,” the researchers added.

Other findings show that the scientists have been studying mRNA as a novel therapeutic for decades, and that the NIH’s patents are connected to more than a dozen vaccine developers, either directly or through sublicensing. The links are depicted on a graph in the journal Nature Biotechnology.

SOURCE: Nature Biotechnology May 12, 2021

HotScot
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 22, 2021 3:06 pm

Allan,

As you know, I haunt a few forums, although I have just deleted my Facebook Account. I’ll no longer encourage that cancel culture mob. As someone recently put it, “It’s not cancel culture, it’s effing communism.

Whilst there is no definitive proof that Covid-19 isn’t a threat to humanity, and that ‘vaccines’ are harmful, few people seem to understand the aggregation of evidence.

We look at the elderly nature of people dying, the almost complete lack of children dying and there is evidence there to suggest elderly people with underlying conditions are at risk, not children. Science is one thing but there comes a point at which, when it’s slapping you in the face, you must sit up and take notice.

In the same way, we as individuals should be able to decide on our own course of action in the face of a ‘novel’ viral pandemic when no one knows what the solution is.

I requested some prescription only pain killers because of me recent hip surgery. I was refused. A consultation with my Doctor is required, despite me having read all the contra indication information of the drug I want.

But were I to blindly stumble along to have a potentially life altering, experimental Covid-19 ‘vaccine’, I could have it.

Volunteer for a clinical drug trial and we would all be put through:

  1. a briefing to ensure we understand the risks and potential benefits of the drug we are taking
  2. an overall health chek to determin our overall fitness
  3. an assessment of any conditions we have that may risk our health or affect the trials
  4. An assessment of current medication that might interfere with the trial medication to affect our health or the outcome of the trial
  5. we might also be paid or even indemnified for participation.
  6. there is a control group

I’d be interested to understand if anyone has been subject to a single one of those conditions, far less them all, in this international trial of Covid-19 drugs. If many of us haven’t, any conclusions are invalid. And I don’t care if separate trials were run in parallel, they are also invalid.

The big one is, of course, has anyone taking the vaccination been informed they might be in a control group. I suspect the ethical questions around that one are very far reaching.

Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 5:32 pm

Hi HotScot my friend – I agree.

You can’t get Ivermectin here in Canada but your 12-year-old is being told by some Provincial Chief Medical Officers that they can take the Covid-19 injection WITHOUT parental permission, and kids are being bribed with ice cream cones in Toronto to take the shot. This is corrupt, criminal misconduct.

Best, Allan

Paul C
Reply to  HotScot
July 23, 2021 5:41 am

Also, the “vaccine” trials now have no control groups, as the control subjects have nearly all been subjected to the real jab. That terminates the trial, as without a control, the medium to long term outcome can no longer be assessed. As the “vaccines” have not, and are now unlikely to ever complete their trials, they should be withdrawn from use as it would be unethical to allow use a treatment that can no longer successfully complete a trial.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 22, 2021 3:32 pm

Patents for this stuff go back to 2002.

Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 23, 2021 9:50 pm

Dr David Martin presents extensive evidence to support these claims. This is not a theory; these are well documented facts.
Don’t take the jab! It’s a bioweapon! Insist on justice.
The justice system is failing us; and refusing to prosecute these mass murderers. Crime is running unchecked.
Plus “countless physicians have been willfully participating in the homicide of humanity”
 
https://rumble.com/vk2bya-exclusive-dr.-david-martin-just-ended-covid-fauci-doj-politicians-in-one-in.html

Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 24, 2021 3:11 am

PATENTS PROVE SARS-COV-2 IS A MANUFACTURED VIRUS
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola July 24, 2021
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/07/24/patents-prove-sars-cov-2-is-a-manufactured-virus.aspx
 
STORY AT-A-GLANCE
·   Hundreds of patents show SARS-CoV-2 is a manmade virus that has been tinkered with for decades. Much of the research was funded by the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) under the direction of Dr. Anthony Fauci, and may have been an outgrowth of attempts to develop an HIV vaccine
·   In 1999, Fauci funded research at University of North Carolina Chapel Hill to create “an infectious replication-defective coronavirus” specifically targeted for human lung epithelium. This appears to be the virus that became known as SARS-CoV
·   U.S. Patent 7279327 shows we knew the ACE receptor, the ACE2 binding domain, the S-1 spike protein, and other elements of SARS-CoV-2 were engineered and could be synthetically modified using gene sequencing technologies
·   The CDC holds patents to a SARS coronavirus that is 89% to 99% identical to the sequence identified as SARS-CoV-2, as well as the PCR test to diagnose it
·   120 patents detail supposed “unique” features of SARS-CoV-2: the polybasic cleavage site, the spike protein and the ACE2 binding, proving it’s not a novel virus at all

In a January 2021 lecture, Jonathan Latham, Ph.D., introduced the term “the pandemic virus industrial complex,” to describe the academic, military and commercial complexes that are driving the pandemic agenda and obscuring facts that indicate SARS-CoV-2 is a manmade virus.
In the video above, David E. Martin, Ph.D., introduces shocking evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is indeed a manmade bioweapon, and has been in the works for decades. Much of this research was funded by none other than the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) under the direction of Dr. Anthony Fauci.
Pandemic virus industrial complex indeed! You do not want to miss this bombshell interview, conducted by Reiner Fuellmich,1 founding member of the German Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee2,

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 25, 2021 11:07 am

2021-07-23

COVID-19: PREMEDITATED MASS MURDER BY FAUCI, GATES, AND OTHERS.

Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates and their accomplices colluded to create, price fix, and market this “Pandemic”. 

Hi Allan,          

 

Dr David Martin presents extensive evidence to support these claims. This is not a theory; these are well documented facts.

Don’t take the jab! It’s a bioweapon! Insist on justice.

The justice system is failing us; and refusing to prosecute these mass murderers. Crime is running unchecked.

Plus “countless physicians have been willfully participating in the homicide of humanity”

 

https://rumble.com/vk2bya-exclusive-dr.-david-martin-just-ended-covid-fauci-doj-politicians-in-one-in.html

 

Kind regards,

-The Dr Mark Trozzi Team

RayB
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 22, 2021 6:10 pm

They removed the link.

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 23, 2021 7:18 pm

“Now, to create a market for our sh!t, we have to fake a pandemic!”

Here is the evidence:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gvXnVB1U6z3b/

Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 24, 2021 11:16 am

Epidemiologist Dr. Paul E. Alexander published this excellent article in March 2021.

Note that two non-experts in epidemiology, Willis Eschenbach and I, independently made the same correct calls about the Covid-10 lockdowns one year earlier in March 2020, as follows. These correct calls were not that difficult, and merely required quality data on the relative risk of different population age groups, and ample common sense.

21March2020 – Willis Eschenbach

The economic damage from the current insane “shelter-in-place” regulations designed to thwart the coronavirus is going to be huge—lost jobs, shuttered businesses, economic downturn, stock market losses. This doesn’t count the personal cost in things like increased suicides and domestic and other violence.

21March2020 – Allan MacRae

LET’S CONSIDER AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH:

Isolate people over sixty-five and those with poor immune systems and return to business-as-usual for people under sixty-five.

This will allow “herd immunity” to develop much sooner and older people will thus be more protected AND THE ECONOMY WON’T CRASH.

22March2020 – Allan MacRae

This full-lockdown scenario is especially hurting service sector businesses and their minimum-wage employees – young people are telling me they are “financially under the bus”. The young are being destroyed to protect us over-65’s. A far better solution is to get them back to work and let us oldies keep our distance, and get “herd immunity” established ASAP – in months not years. Then we will all be safe again.

By now it is apparent that the almost-universally dystopian “lockdowns-and-distancing” approach was planned in advance, and was a deliberate strategy to harm our economies and our society. It is simply not credible that so many governments all over the world could all be so consistently wrong for so long. Furthermore, the ”Cancel Culture” that vilified anyone who spoke out against these destructive was also organized and effective.

The collaboration of the mainstream media including the tech media in a concerted dis-information campaign to incite needless fear about Covid-19 , a relatively mild flu except for the very elderly and infirm, is further evidence that the Covid lockdowns wee a conspiracy of global extent. The Covid-19 lockdowns, along with Global Warming alarmism, were the greatest and most costly frauds in human history.

The objective of these global frauds is to enact a Marxist dictatorship in the Chinese Communist Party model called the Great Reset, with a few Princes at the top, looking down at all the poor peasants. Once this dystopian conspiracy is defeated, those responsible must be tried and imprisoned for their attempts to destroy our democracies and our freedoms.
 
Regards, Allan MacRae in Calgary

 
THE BRUTAL ATTACK ON SCIENTIFIC DISSENT
Dr. Paul E. Alexander, March 9, 2021
https://www.aier.org/article/the-brutal-attack-on-scientific-dissent/
[excerpt]

The Covid-19 pandemic has been catastrophic and devastating for those who have succumbed to it. The important issue for us societally and globally is that the risk group is defined and we know much better in March 2021 how to target and manage a response. March 2021 is not February 2020.

Moreover, the benefits of the governmental actions – lockdowns – have been overly overstated and inflated while the harms have been devastating. Those include harms to our children, the poorer children and minority children, undiagnosed and untreated diseases, excess mortality in years to come from the lockdowns, the escalating suicide and drug overdoses from the lockdowns, the crushing domestic abuse and child abuse, sexual abuse of our children, the massive psychological harms, lost jobs and closed businesses, and the far-reaching catastrophic impact on women and poorer children.

Senior pandemic experts have written extensively on why such measures are not to be used in a pandemic and why they never advocated for these punitive actions even when they were considering epidemics and pandemics with greater lethality. They understood the ramifications and sadly, we as societies are now left to pick up the pieces but with no end in sight to these restrictive crushing, often unscientific, unsound, and illogical mandates.

Sadly, as part of the responding, governments are now faced with considering setting laws and also enhancing existing ones that would protect academic freedom and hold accountable those who threaten academic freedom by their reactions, reactions that are too often threatening and slanderous to contrarian and skeptical viewpoints of these questionable and often failed edicts and mandates. Globally we have seen a sharp rise in verbal and social media online attacks on persons who hold contrarian views on Covid-19 societal lockdown policies that have been implemented.

What are these contrarians guilty of? Their guilt stems from voicing well-founded doubts and reservations about the value and effectiveness of societal lockdowns and other governmental policies as a Covid-19 response. Their crime is that they wish to consider both the harms of the virus and the totality of the impact of the policies and mandates. A consideration of the impact of the policies in an objective manner. A much broader view than simply the basic science and lethality of the pathogen. These contrarians, some as policy experts with a medical and research scientist background, are arguing against the utility and need for policies and mandates that seem arbitrary, have been very destructive on societies, and are essentially unsound and wholly unscientific.

Similarly, an early contrarian being Nobel Prize winner Dr. Michael Levitt, who was a critic of societal lockdowns, became disinvited from his appearance and keynote talk at a biosystems conference. Dr. Levitt was advised that there are “too many calls by other speakers threatening to quit if you were there. They all complained about your Covid claims.” Dr. Levitt has shared the experience via Twitter claiming a “New Dark Age Cometh.”

Moreover, if you are considered a conservative politically (whether you are or not), then you are in double jeopardy and subject to a further depth of hostility and acrimony, often by academic peers. What has become clear is that across the board, politics has invaded science and politics has been a rate limiting step in Covid-19 responding by governments, public health systems, and medical experts. Very serious far-reaching decisions are being made that are altering societal structure and function, and it is politics that is underpinning the decision-making, and not the science. What is incredible is that those who oppose and question the societal restrictions are being blamed for the failures of these policies that were broadly implemented. Not the failed policy itself, just the act of questioning it.

The invidious, vicious, malicious, and brutal career altering attacks are against those who dare to speak out and voice their often ‘expert’ opinions against Covid-19 orthodoxies, and originate from persons (often those in the research medical community) who disagree with a contrarian’s position on Covid-19 public health policies. There is a punishing terrorisation, intimidation and maligning that arises from the vicious attacks on contrarian or skeptical academics, that often results in tremendous and crushing losses to the contrarian’s personal safety, welfare, and livelihood. There is this ‘cancel culture mob mentality’ that ensues, and the threats and harassment are very troubling, even when the skeptical academic(s) lays out their view based on actual data, evidence, and science.

Paul E. Alexander received his bachelor’s degree in epidemiology from McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, a master’s degree from Oxford University, and a PhD from McMaster University’s Department of Health Research Methods, Evidence, and Impact.

Patrick MJD
July 22, 2021 2:27 pm

There has been 5 deaths from COVID-19 and 5 deaths from the vaccine so far this year. No figures on people who have had limbs amputated due to blood clots. About 350 deaths from blood clots not attributed to the vaccine (Source TGA). 800+ deaths last year were directly attributed to COVID-19 infections while in hotel quarantine in Melbourne.

There have been a total of 915 deaths from COVID-19, most (910) were in 2020. That’s quite a bit less than the 200,000+ deaths as was predicted by Prof. Neil “I can’t keep my pants on while in lockdown” Ferguson of The Imperial College London.

We have unelected health officials advising Govn’t in NSW to continue with lockdowns.

Chant is supposed to be a Dr. but I can’t find any reference to that. I found that Chant did a medical administration course in 1987 and masters in Public Health in 1995. Nothing studied for 26 years since as far as I can tell. Chant has not worked in the health industry at all as far as I can tell.

Hazzard is an ex-lawyer and an ex-teacher. No medical training what so ever.

There is a talk of mandatory vaccinations of everyone and “vaccine passports”. We’re in full lockdown here in Sydney and people are panic buying…toilet paper, again!

Australia, the lucky country.

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HotScot
Reply to  Patrick MJD
July 22, 2021 3:11 pm

Neil Ferguson predicted 500,000 deaths in the UK.

Australia has some very serious problems to look forward to assuming Covid deaths remain as well controlled as they are.

When, and if, vaccine deaths become a feature, there will be all hell to pay.

Aus. is perhaps the petri dish of political dissent over Covid in the coming years.

RickWill
Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 5:16 pm

Early indications are that those vaccinated can still contract Covid but they are asymptomatic or very mild symptoms. Those vaccinated can still spread the virus.

To balance that, a group of 30 people in NSW were all close contacts at a gathering. 24 of those people contracted the virus and 6 did not. Only 6 were vaccinated and they were the ones without Covid.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/vaccinated-attendees-west-hoxton-birthday-party-avoid-covid-19/100249612
Not clinical test but good odds that vaccination is highly effective in preventing spread as well as reducing death rate.

NSW have not yet got serious with lockdowns. When they have nighttime curfews and travel restrictions with every car on the streets during the curfew being investigated by police, then you know they are serious about infection control.

RayB
Reply to  RickWill
July 22, 2021 6:23 pm

How do they know that the injected were negative? These PCR tests are totally useless for injected people. Moreover, it seems they also use a different lesser cycle count for injected than for non-injected. Like they said, with the cycle count they use for non-injected, you can find covid in a sandwich.

Anthony Banton
Reply to  HotScot
July 23, 2021 9:30 am

Neil Ferguson predicted 500,000 deaths in the UK.”

Yes he did – under specific circumstance WITHOUT mitigation ….

The 500,000 figure appears in a report produced by the Imperial College Covid-19 response team in March 2020, led by Professor Ferguson. 

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/mrc-gida/2020-03-16-COVID19-Report-9.pdf

“Results
In the (unlikely) absence of any control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behaviour, we
would expect a peak in mortality (daily deaths) to occur after approximately 3 months (Figure 1A). In
such scenarios, given an estimated R0 of 2.4, we predict 81% of the GB and US populations would be
infected over the course of the epidemic. Epidemic timings are approximate given the limitations of
surveillance data in both countries: The epidemic is predicted to be broader in the US than in GB and
to peak slightly later. This is due to the larger geographic scale of the US, resulting in more distinct
localised epidemics across states (Figure 1B) than seen across GB. The higher peak in mortality in GB
is due to the smaller size of the country and its older population compared with the US. In total, in an
unmitigated epidemic, we would predict approximately 510,000 deaths in GB and 2.2 million in the
US, not accounting for the potential negative effects of health systems being overwhelmed on
mortality. 

Justin Burch
Reply to  Patrick MJD
July 22, 2021 3:13 pm

It’s introduction of communism having nothing whatsoever to do with the virus.

RickWill
Reply to  Patrick MJD
July 22, 2021 5:02 pm

The polls/elections in Australia for State Premiers correlate inversely with the number of Covid deaths in each state as well as the length of lockdowns.

WA just isolated the State and only permitted infected crew from ships into State hospitals if they were on death’s door. No community spread. The Premier had a landslide election win with his party destroying the opposition earlier this year.

Likewise QLD was fast to isolate the State and avoided significant community spread. Existing government returned with increased majority in 2020.

Dan in Victoria is still premier. The opposition is ineffective. Victoria is back in lock down for the fifth time. Borders are now shut to NSW. Polling indicates 70% of Victorians support the current lockdowns despite many small businesses suffering financially.

accepting Taiwan is indicative of good Covid controls, then Delta strain will be a serious problem for NSW and it would not surprise me to see the State in lockdown until vaccinations are widespread – no sooner than October. Gladys will look fragile if that occurs.

Victoria learned a hard lesson about the skepticism of new immigrants on health controls. The health officials did not get on top of the situation until religious leaders were fronted face-to-face and given the facts on deaths. By then a lot of older people in their communities were in hospital so it was not a hard sell. In Victoria in 2020, there were two notable cohorts in hospitals – those aged over 70 with other health issues usually contracting the virus in aged care and mostly older people (+50s) of a certain a religious faith; recent immigrants both middle east and Central Africa. NSW is now facing similar issues with most cases occurring in areas housing a high proportion of first generation immigrants.

NSW still have known source and unknown climbing. The controls are only proven effective when the unknown sources are falling each day.

No one wants to claim ownership of the curfews introduced in Victoria in 2020 but there is no doubt they were an extremely effective Covid control. There were so few cars out at night that police could stop every car and check if the driver had a valid work permit.

David A
Reply to  RickWill
July 25, 2021 6:35 am

Your prior comments do not consider that leaky vaccines are well known to be extremely unadvisable in a pandemic, as they are very likely to create vaccine resistant mutations.
Every single vaccinated individual is a mutation experiment in process. The delta variant is very possibly a vaccine induced variant

Also there are many areas where the percentage of vaccinated infected and hospitalized, is as high and higher then percentage of unvaccinated infected and hospitalized. ( This is particularly true in areas where prior exposure to the wuflu was widespread.). This is possible evidence that areas of natural heard immunity are as effectively immune, or more immune then the jabbed.
As exposed and asymptomatic infected vaccinated are often no longer tracked, and vaccinated are less often tested in some areas, and tracking to get accurate numbers is no longer done, distortions in the numbers reported are certain.
Yet the harms reported are growing and accelerating, despite insider reports of hidden negative and fatal adverse reactions. Although now, the powers that be are attempting large cuts in past reported numbers. Past CDC and WHO behaviors have destroyed the credibility of their assertions.

HotScot
July 22, 2021 2:28 pm

Right to try?

The world has the right to try Covid-19 vaccines, if they dare.

I respect anyone who cares to accept an experimental drug, never before used on humans other than in some isolated terminal cancer cases as a last ditch effort, I just won’t be one of them.

All I ask is that my respect for them is reciprocated.

However, Ivermectin has an extraordinary success rate with early onset Covid-19. It seems it entirely eradicates Covid-19 with three tablets administered over five days, costing less than $1 US. It also seems to eradicate the ‘long covid’ effects.

It’s success rate under those conditions has been reported as 86%, with a 100% response (sorry, not medicaly expressed but I hope you get the gist).

It’s a 40 year old, Nobel winning drug available over the counter in many developing nations to treat human parasitic conditions (no, it can’t deal with politicians) including River Blindness, a parasitic worm that destroys the optic nerve. It exhibits very few side effects.

What does that say for the contempt for western nations held by their political and medical elite that, whilst relatively uneducated Africans are allowed to make their own decisions about their health, we’re not!

It’s also interesting to note that almost every morsel of beef, lamb/mutton and pork consumed in the western world over the last 30 years has probably been treated with Ivomec (The Merck trading name for Ivermectin) or marketing derivative thereof, to eradicate parasitic intestinal worms, amongst other growth inhibiting parasites.

I would doubt there’s a cattle/swine farmer/rancher or horse owner who hasn’t used Ivermectin, more usually available as a pour on (you literally pour it along the spine of beasts) but also as a bolus.

Unlike antibiotics routinely given to animals, I can’t recall having seen a single article condemning it as harmful to the humans who consume meat treated with it.

But somehow, despite this amazing record of human and animal safety, I can’t go out and buy it to at least try if my family or I become infected with Covid-19. I’m not just compelled, but coerced to accept an experimental ‘vaccine’ instead.

Talk about government restrictive influences on our lives. I could say more but I don’t want to upset people.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 2:41 pm

All of my workmates have had the jab, not sure which one, but I respect their choice. However, I am not respected by them for my choice not to have the jab. In fact I am criticised and pressured in to having the jab because they don’t want to work with someone unvaccinated. I won’t be pressured.

Madness!

Archer
Reply to  Patrick MJD
July 22, 2021 3:11 pm

I’m being hounded by my mother over this vaccine stuff. It’s entirely out of character for her.

HotScot
Reply to  Archer
July 22, 2021 3:19 pm

Just lie to your MIL. She won’t know the difference.

HotScot
Reply to  Patrick MJD
July 22, 2021 3:19 pm

They are immune to filthy unvaccinated swine like us.

WTF are they worried about?

Vaccines work, don’t they?

Just lie and tell them you had the shot. You’ll have the last laugh.

Reply to  Patrick MJD
July 24, 2021 3:54 am

‘CAN’T DO IT’: INCREASING NUMBER OF NFL STARS SPEAK OUT AGAINST COVID-19 VACCINE POLICY
By Jack Phillips July 23, 2021 
https://www.theepochtimes.com/cant-do-it-increasing-number-of-nfl-stars-speak-out-against-covid-19-vaccine-mandate_3915281.html
 
Here is my fearless prediction:
A percentage of NFL players who get the Covid-19 injections will be so adversely affected that they will no longer be competitive and will be cut by their teams.

These men are at the peak of their health and training and it will become obvious when the adverse effects of the injections cause a measurable decline in their performance.
 
A rational approach for these men to protect their careers would be to NOT take the injections, but to take a preventative daily dose of Ivermectin, Zinc, Vitamin D3 etc  until the Covid crisis is fully over. Is anyone going to compensate them if their careers are shortened by the Covid injections?

Izaak Walton
Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 2:45 pm

This is nonsense that will get people killed. The COVID 19 vaccines are not experimental but well tested, highly effective, and have been administered to millions of people worldwide with no evidence of significant likelihood of serious side-effects. There is some elevated risk of clotting but it is for example similar to risks from taking the contraceptive pill which is available over the counter in many countries.

Repeating false claims about vaccines results in the deaths of thousands of people every year.

icisil
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 4:10 pm

Lies on all counts (except risk from BC pills).

https://twitter.com/bkFreedomForAll

Timo, not that one
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 4:16 pm

MRNA is a gene therapy not a vaccine. More people have died from the MRNA jab than from all the real vaccines, combined for the last 22 years.
It would be a wise choice to use this “emergency” to temporarily approve Ivermectin for treatment of the CCP virus.

Simon
Reply to  Timo, not that one
July 22, 2021 5:17 pm

MRNA is a gene therapy not a vaccine. More people have died from the MRNA jab than from all the real vaccines, combined for the last 22 years.”
Complete and utter bullshite hogwash. You said it now back it up with verifiable evidence.

icisil
Reply to  Simon
July 22, 2021 6:16 pm

It’s actually 30 years. More deaths reported to VAERS for the covid vexxines than for all vaccines combined for the last 30 years. You can verify this yourself on VAERS.

icisil
Reply to  icisil
July 22, 2021 6:19 pm

Pictures are always nice
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ghalfrunt
Reply to  icisil
July 23, 2021 1:33 pm

These are deaths per year. you need deaths per injection. I would be surprised if there were not a phenomenal increase in total injections with covid vaccines

Derg
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 2:51 pm

You were the one who told us to drink bleach. You are a known liar.

TonyG
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 4:58 pm

So nothing to worry about, just write-off the spike as no big deal.

David A
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 25, 2021 6:51 am

Think before you type. There are many many vaccines. More then 50 percent of the population gets a Flu vaccines alone each year. This is not considering all the other vaccines. There are more then 10 vaccines that most people have had.

A reasonable WAG is that the jab is less then 10 percent of total vaccines over the time period.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Simon
July 22, 2021 8:40 pm

Hey, Simon the Simpleton!
Please explain the graph that icisil was kind enough to post!
That’s from the VAERS data at the CDC website; so maybe they are in on the conspiracy, too!

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Simon
July 22, 2021 9:19 pm

CNN-Simon shows up to recite the party narrative.

Chaswarnertoo
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
July 22, 2021 11:57 pm

Simple Simon.

a_scientist
Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 3:27 pm

Here is a nice reference site that has a summary of all the Ivermectin trials. A real time listing and analysis of the trials. Good analysis criticizing the different study designs, many peer reviewed, many randomized trials. The media campaign against Ivermectin is massive. This is real data.

https://ivmmeta.com/

67% benefit in randomized clinical trials for early treatment, look at the meta-analysis tab.
16000 patients in the RCT and peer-reviewed studies!

The conclusion on the meta-analysis page is

“Conclusion
Ivermectin is an effective treatment for COVID-19. The probability that an ineffective treatment generated results as positive as the 60 studies to date is estimated to be 1 in 193 billion (p = 0.0000000000052). As expected for an effective treatment, early treatment is more successful, with an estimated reduction of 74% in the effect measured using random effects meta-analysis (RR 0.26 [0.16-0.43]). 64% and 96% lower mortality is observed for early treatment and prophylaxis (RR 0.36 [0.15-0.85] and 0.04 [0.00-0.59]). Statistically significant improvements are seen for mortality, ventilation, hospitalization, cases, and viral clearance. The consistency of positive results across a wide variety of heterogeneous studies is remarkable, with 92% of the 60 studies reporting positive effects (26 statistically significant in isolation).
“:

HotScot
Reply to  a_scientist
July 22, 2021 3:35 pm

I worked with Merial Animal Health as the Director of their UK communications centre in the early 2000’s for Ivomec.

I spoke with several scientists who were pushing the limits of the drug. To a man/woman they told me they were barely scratching the surface of what Ivermectin can do for the human race.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  a_scientist
July 22, 2021 6:15 pm

67% benefit is still a lot smaller than the 90+% benefit from the vaccines. And vaccines have been tried on much larger sample sizes.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 8:49 pm

Izaak,
The genetic altering compounds you are referring to are not even close to 90% effective! You’ve fallen for another line of BS, while the countries with the highest “vaccination” rates are experiencing spikes in the number of new cases!
There is evidence now accumulating that these genetic modifying jabs are actually making some people MORE susceptible to the ChiCom virus and damaging the body’s natural immune system! Congratulations on being used in a massive medical experiment with unknown long term effects!

Peta of Newark
Reply to  Abolition Man
July 22, 2021 10:05 pm

Quote:”There is evidence now accumulating that these genetic modifying jabs are actually making some people MORE susceptible to the ChiCom virus”
and here it is – in the midst of a UK (mini) heatwave = warm weather that the virus supposedly hates

BBC Headline:”More than 600,000 people told to isolate by NHS Covid-19 app
Quote:”Data shows 618,903 alerts were sent – a 17% rise from the previous week.”

Also..
BBC Headline:”Child winter respiratory illness on rise in summer

While you’re at the Beeb, look out for:

  1. QuoteIceland and Greene King shut sites amid ‘pingdemic‘”
  2. Quote:”Covid: Food workers given exemption from isolation rules

If that 2nd quote doesn’t set your alarm bell ringing, what would?
Those are the very peeps who surely Shirley should isolate

While they rave about how high UK vaccination rates are……
Something ‘less than fragrant’ is going on here…..

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Reply to  Abolition Man
July 23, 2021 1:13 am

There are 2 ways to look at ecffectivity,
relative and absolute.
The absolute is about 1% only…

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 1:10 am

If you don’t think about side effects and unknown effects after a year or two or more .

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a_scientist
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 7:36 am

Izaak,

There is a big difference.

The vaccine has no long term testing to its safety. Ten thousand in the USA have died from the vaccine, more than all other vaccines combined. You have to subject millions to a lightly tested new technology to save a life.

In contrast, Ivermectin is only given to those who are sick. And it has been tested for decades in millions, so it is known to be safe.

See the difference, one is tested, and only given to those who need it. The vaccine has no long term testing, and is being given to millions of people including young people who have very little risk of COVID bad outcomes.

a_scientist
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 9:31 am

Izaak,

There is a big difference.
The vaccines are lacking the phase 3 long term safety studies. They are given to millions to save one life. But there are big side effects, >10,000 deaths in the VAERS database, more than all other vaccines combined.

In contrast, Ivermectin is only given to people that need it to treat them. It is one of the safest drugs, having been around for decades, given hundreds of millions of doses.

Ivermectin and other treatments are being suppressed for political reasons. If there are effective treatments, the emergency authorizations for the vaccines could not be pushed through.

TonyG
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 10:46 am

Just to be clear: you would prefer 0% effective (i.e. do nothing) to 67% effective?

RayB
Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 6:26 pm

Because it is still a trial, they have to also inject some people with saline. I would not be surprised that almost all people in power got saline instead of mRNA shots. How come none of them actually get sick or even a headache from their shot?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  RayB
July 24, 2021 8:35 pm

I didn’t get sick or a headache from my Pfizer shots.

July 22, 2021 2:30 pm

I suggest that the same facts are true in the USA and Europe – Lockdowns killed more people under 65 than COVID-19.
____________
 
We told you so – way back on 21March2020 – NO LOCKDOWNS. And we were correct!
 
21March2020 – Willis Eschenbach
The economic damage from the current insane “shelter-in-place” regulations designed to thwart the coronavirus is going to be huge—lost jobs, shuttered businesses, economic downturn, stock market losses. This doesn’t count the personal cost in things like increased suicides and domestic and other violence.
 
21March2020 – Allan MacRae
LET’S CONSIDER AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH:
Isolate people over sixty-five and those with poor immune systems and return to business-as-usual for people under sixty-five.
This will allow “herd immunity” to develop much sooner and older people will thus be more protected AND THE ECONOMY WON’T CRASH.
 
22March2020 – Allan MacRae
This full-lockdown scenario is especially hurting service sector businesses and their minimum-wage employees – young people are telling me they are “financially under the bus”. The young are being destroyed to protect us over-65’s. A far better solution is to get them back to work and let us oldies keep our distance, and get “herd immunity” established ASAP – in months not years. Then we will all be safe again.
Regards, Allan MacRae in Calgary
 
Lockdowns killed more Canadians under 65 than COVID-19: Statscan
By Harrison Faulkner
July 18, 2021
https://tnc.news/2021/07/18/lockdowns-killed-more-canadians-under-65-than-covid-19-statscan/
 
The consequences of government-enforced lockdowns killed more Canadians under the age of 65 than the COVID-19 virus itself, according to a report by Statistics Canada.

RickWill
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 22, 2021 6:10 pm

Effective Covid controls have a dramatic reduction in Covid deaths. The evidence on that is overwhelming. Most people would reasonably expect certain downside from some of the Covid controls. Although there were some unexpected upside such as reduction in violent crime, fewer road deaths and fewer hospital admissions from drug overdose and street fights.

Australia has so far had effective Covid controls. The mortality rate in Australia from April 2020 to November 2020 was below the average and often by more than the 95% bound.
https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/measuring-excess-mortality-victoria-during-covid-19-pandemic

The current community spread in NSW is simply putting massive pressure on the Federal Government to give NSW priority in supply of vaccinations. Australia’s rate of vaccination has been quite low because there has been so few Covid hospitalisations.

Victoria provides a case study in effective Covid controls once there is community spread-

  1. Work permits
  2. 5km travel restriction
  3. Nighttime curfew
  4. Heavy fines for not following rules.
  5. Masks anywhere outside own premises.
  6. No gatherings of different households
  7. Health authority face-to-face meeting with religious leaders of recent immigrant communities.
  8. Only reason to be off premises for essential supplies, medical care or exercise unless a permitted worker.
  9. Only two hours off premises in any day.
  10. Only 1 hour exercise off premises in any day.

The most effective control is simply to close borders to all outsiders as was done in Western Australia to protect the high value iron ore export industry. Zero community Covid cases through 2020.

In the USA excess deaths over average for 2020 was 572k. That suggests Covid controls were only marginally effective. Recorded Covid death rate in the USA to date is 1.8% so there would have been many more deaths if there were no controls.

Trying to make a case about controls being ineffective from data where controls were applied is a fools errand. No country had zero Covid controls. Hence there is no effective reference.

Victoria, Australia probably provides the best case study of the effectiveness of the range of controls. It took a long time to realise that health officials needed to speak directly to religious leaders of recent immigrants to overcome their skepticism of the Covid restrictions. This highly regarded footballer was influential in his community:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCkdtRiB-gZ/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=08477b15-b25f-41da-b74e-50646106fcce
The video was shown across the Victorian news media.

Drake
Reply to  RickWill
July 23, 2021 1:43 pm

Wow, CCP in Aus.

No wonder you approve!

But then again, the USA threw off the King, Aus. still is a Monarchy with a constitution that does not have a Bill of Rights.

Since you are a true believer, you are happy to have your movement restricted to 5 K and 2 hours. If I had my way, anyone who supported this crap would be held to these restrictions for the rest of their lives. if their current location had everything they wanted, beach, recreational areas. etc. I would require they to relocate to the outback a minimum of 5 K from the nearest town. They can order their food dropped off at the property line, not allowed to come within 100 YARDS of
the delivery person.

What a woke joke you are.

Reply to  RickWill
July 23, 2021 7:25 pm

Rick – everything you say can ONLY be true if you lock down BEFORE there is a significant number of Covid-19 cases in your area.

That may have worked for Australia, but was far too LATE for the USA, Canada, Europe and most of the rest of the world. The horse had already left the barn.

Rud Istvan
July 22, 2021 2:30 pm

Been following this. HCQ was objected to because Trump mentioned it and the efficacy data were a bit ambivalent.
Ivermectin was the subject a new paper giving a meta analysis of 15 papers in the American Journal of Therapeutics, July-August 2021. To quote the conclusions:

  1. Shown to be effective against COVID-19 in vitro.
  2. ”Moderate certainty evidence of large reduction in COVID-19 deaths—especially when used early. Known safety and low cost are significant global considerations.

Its low cost is why pharma would rather make $billions off vaccines. But given vaccine breakthroughs (Delta variant) plus low vaccination rates in many places, having a low cost therapeutic is IMO essential. WHO should be all over this, but isn’t.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 22, 2021 2:54 pm

Been following this. HCQ was objected to because Trump mentioned it

He also mentioned Remdesivir in the same sentence as a possible gamechanger…..

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Krishna Gans
July 22, 2021 5:15 pm

Remdesivir MIGHT help in late stage disease, but sure does in early stage. Stops viral replication, as posted here over a year ago. My main problem is it’s exorbitant cost, not it’s mechanism of action or questionable late stage efficacy.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 23, 2021 1:15 am

I wouldt only say, HCQ was banned, not the other

Drake
Reply to  Krishna Gans
July 23, 2021 1:44 pm

Because there was no money to be made.

David A
Reply to  Drake
July 25, 2021 7:02 am

Stop HCQ and Ivermectin now;
No money to be obtained.
No government power to be gained.
No global power to be obtained.
No population reduction gained.
No Donald Trump rejection obtained.

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Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Krishna Gans
July 23, 2021 7:01 pm

That was because he was not given the correct information. Now even WHO says Remdesivir is not of much use. Health Canada approved it. Why? The only reason I see is that they also suffered from Trump Derangement Syndrome. They were countering HCQ before IVM came around. Now they are ignoring IVM.

HotScot
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 22, 2021 3:12 pm

WHO is largely funded by Bill gates.

Ivermectin is profitless.

Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2021 6:15 pm

Dr. Piere Kory is an Ivermectin advocate trying to save lives now. Trial Site News on Youtube has interviews of Dr. Piere Kory. Medicine is a for profit business that if it cures all diseases, it will greatly be reduced in size …unless there is war.

Justin Burch
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 22, 2021 3:15 pm

That paper was redone after the Egyptian paper was withdrawn and the results come out even more favourable for Ivermectin despite a Guardian hit piece on it.

4 Eyes
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 22, 2021 4:03 pm

WHO and governments will avoid getting all over this because the outcry would (will?) be enormous when the populace finds out many lives could have been saved. Class actions?
This would be even more outrageous if the gene altering drugs are found to have long term effects sort of like thalidomide. Even more class actions? There are people in this world who have too much ego and power and not enough knowledge, and humility.

Allan MacRae
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 22, 2021 4:53 pm

I agree with you Rud.
I have spent perhaps 2000 hours reading on the subject of Covid, the so-called vaccines and other treatments.
I understand Ivermectin is highly effective against COVID-19 as both a preventative and a cure in the early stages of the illness. Hydroxychloroquine is somewhat less effective than ivermectin but still still beneficial. For those of us who are unable to obtain either ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, a possible lesser alternative is quercetin, which is available in natural food stores as a supplement.
The effective banning of low cost, highly effective treatments such as ivermectin is in my opinion a criminal act which has caused many deaths.
Based on the opinion of many senior medical experts, The effectiveness of the COVID-19 injections is relatively low and the risk is high. Based on the data, there was no good reason to inject the low risk population, which is people under 65 years of age. For this low risk population, the chances of dying of COVID-19 are approximately one and 300,000. As more data becomes available, I expect that the risk of dying from adverse reactions to the vaccine will exceed one in 300,000. We will see.
it is especially high risk and no reward to be pushing the injections into children and youth 18 and under. The adverse effects of the vaccines include inflammation of arteries including coronary arteries. There is also a significant risk of sterilization of women.
I also suspect that the sharp increase in summer cases in Israel and Britain are not a result of the virus but rather are a direct result of the injections, since many of the symptoms of COVID-19 are mimicked by the adverse reactions to the injections. COVID-19 is clearly not a summer illness. It is highly seasonalal.
I have dictated this note so I apologize in advance for any typos etc.
Regards, Allan MacRae

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Allan MacRae
July 22, 2021 5:11 pm

Quercetin (also in green tea and ginkgo biloba extracts, if you don’t want to pay extra for the pure extract), is a Zinc ionophore, just like HCQ. So when taken with a mild zinc supplement, prevents COVID-19 viral replication in epithelial cells. Quercetin, it’s precursors, and zinc are all cheap grocery store supplements. Not good for big pharma vaccines.
No different than ivermectin, or HCQ (also a zinc ionophore).

RayB
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 22, 2021 6:43 pm

Ivermectin has up to 20 levels of action. Ionophore is one of them but not like what HCQ does. The ionophore activity of ivermectin is explained by two IVM forming a dimer and stopping the virus from binding to the cell wall. There is no requirement of zinc for the action of ivermectin, unlike the role of HCQ that makes zinc penetrate the cell walls and the zinc does the job.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 22, 2021 6:22 pm

The statement that:
Its low cost is why pharma would rather make $billions off vaccines.”
is nonsense. If you are after making money you want to sell a drug that people have to take continuously or at least multiple times rather than only twice. Which would favour Ivermectin over a vaccine. Also you would want a drug that you can manufacture cheaply and easily at scale and distribute it around the world at room temperature rather than at liquid nitrogen temperature and again that says that there is more money in selling Ivermectin than the current vaccines.

I am also guessing that the profit margin on Ivermectin is significantly larger than on any of the current vaccines.

To repeat the conclusions. There is moderate evidence that Ivermectin reduces the risk of death by about 50%. There is high quality evidence that vaccines reduce the risk of by over 90+%. Vaccines also reduce the transmission rate of COVID and the severity. It is clear which one is the better option.

Abolition Man
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 8:54 pm

Izaak,
Would you please list out where the heck you get your BS!! Virtually everything you post here is wrong, so it would be nice if you would list the sources so that smart people will know to avoid them! Not everyone wants to fill their heads with garbage the way that you seem to enjoy!

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Abolition Man
July 22, 2021 9:23 pm

There is a reason he earned the moniker “Izaak the Idiot”.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 8:59 pm

Your logic is simple, but flawed.
True, a very preventative vaccine would yield more profit than a therapeutic, depending on case rates.
So, let’s compare real stuff with vax breakthroughs.
JJ says it’s vax (‘worst’ but least cost single jab) will produce about $2.2billion in extra profit this year, while preventing all but 15% hospitalizations and deaths.
ivermectin therapy would produce about zero hospitalization deaths.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 22, 2021 9:13 pm

Rud,
where do you get the figure that Ivermectin would produce “about zero” hospitalisation deaths? No study has shown much more than about a 60% reduction in deaths. Vaccines are much better at preventing death.

Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 1:19 am

No. The Ivermectin absolute effectivity is higher than the one of the gene therapy called vaccine.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 8:16 am

Your blinders allow you to conveniently overlook the fact that a drug which entered use in 1986 is no longer under patents, meaning it is extremely cheap and won’t bring in the $Billions like a newly minted, patented vaccine will, multiple doses vs. one or two is meaningless.

Gerald Machnee
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 23, 2021 7:04 pm

Total nonsense Izaak as usual. Even Merck the manufacturer is downplaying it because it has low profit. India makes it for a few cents.

Rod Evans
July 22, 2021 2:40 pm

The Don missed a political trick when he advised the use of ivermectin, suggesting it was clinically proven as an effective treatment against Covid 19. Once he had endorsed it, the entire woke media and the left wing establishment went into overdrive to condemn the idea of a cheap clinically safe drug being suitable to deal with Covid.
If the Don had said Ivermectin was useless, the exact opposite response would have been adopted by the woke and left. Thus millions of lives would have been saved not to mention $billions of dollars. saved too.
Hey ho, there is always the next time.

Last edited 4 days ago by Rod Evans
ghalfrunt
Reply to  Rod Evans
July 22, 2021 3:07 pm

What a load of tosh! Most intelligent people rely on proper testing before using a drug (C19 vaccines have such testing!!!!) Ivermectin is safe with most people but not all.
An Egyptian trial reporting success with ivermectin has been retracted for data fiddling etc.

Philip
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 22, 2021 3:26 pm

(C19 vaccines have such testing!!!!)
Is this a question or a statement?

If it is a question, the answer is no.
If it’s a statement, it’s wrong [here in the US]. No final FDA approval. Emergency use authorization only. From what I can find about Canadian approval, they seem to be simply following the WHO recommendations. I don’t know about the rest of the world. Are there any western governments that are actually on the ball?

Reply to  Philip
July 22, 2021 3:41 pm

Emergency approuval in Germany too

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Philip
July 22, 2021 3:44 pm

In Australia it’s the Therapeutic Goods Administration that is responsible for approving drugs for use but they don’t have an Emergency Use Approval process. The TGA “fast tracked” approval, bypassing the usual trials and tests, for these drugs to be used. It is essentially the same but people still believe it’s not EUA.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  Philip
July 22, 2021 6:26 pm

Philip,
Currently for example over 50% of European adults have been vaccinated. If there were any signs of a large probability of adverse reactions they would have been spotted by now. The vaccines are safe and effective.

icisil
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 7:19 pm

This doesn’t communicate safe and effective to me.
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ghalfrunt
Reply to  icisil
July 22, 2021 8:06 pm

Multiple Instagram and Facebook posts have shared a purported graphic of Covid-19 “vaccine deaths and injuries” which they claim shows data from the European Medicines Agency (EMA). The claim is misleading: an EMA spokesperson told AFP it had not issued the graphic in the posts. Actual data released by the agency in fact show adverse events reported after Covid-19 vaccination that are “not necessarily related to or caused by” vaccines.The purported data was shared in this image. It was posted on Instagram on May 30, 2021.
The image includes the logo of the EudraVigilance database, which is managed by the European Medicines Agency (EMA). It compiles data on suspected vaccination side effects.
Text overlaid in the image reads in part: “Vaccine: Deaths & Injuries
“Pfizer: 5,961 / 452,779
“Moderna: 3,365 / 72,596
“AstraZeneca: 2,489 / 655,534
“J&J: 369 / 15,281”.

icisil
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 22, 2021 8:17 pm

So the two key points are 1) the graphic was not issued by the EMA, and 2) the adverse events may not be related to the vexxines.
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The data, however, were issued by the EMA, and the EMA has no evidence that the adverse events are not related to the vexxines.

David A
Reply to  icisil
July 25, 2021 7:59 am

Exactly and the reported adverse affects are based on known potential side affects and or those side affects occurring in patients with no prior history of said adverse conditions. It has been estimated that no more then 10 percent of adverse events are reported.
To say nothing of potential long term adverse conditions and the high likelihood of vaccine caused vaccine resistant mutations.

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  ghalfrunt
July 23, 2021 6:03 am

They do not put DEAD in extra big letters?

Nicholas McGinley
Reply to  icisil
July 23, 2021 6:07 am

Over ten thousand people in every million will die every year, on average.
That comes to about one out of every 36,500 every day.
About 30 out of every million.
Will die, every day.
Many will die suddenly.
Most people who were at high risk were given priority to get it first where vaccines have been available.
So of course people who are vaccinated will die.
Vaccines never made anyone immortal.

And for purposes of reporting, a sore arm, a headache, a red spot where the injection was…those are all “injuries”.

David A
Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
July 25, 2021 8:05 am

You do not understand the adverse event reporting system. See my post two or three above yours.

Exactly how many headache only or sore arm only adverse advents are part of the numbers? ( I suspect you have no idea). How many required hospital care? How many required medical care?

Anthony Banton
Reply to  icisil
July 23, 2021 11:30 am

Those are deaths following the administration of a vaccine to many millions of people (FI in Europe 351 mil by 21st July – ~ half of the total pop).
Do you REALLY believe that they are the direct result of the vaccine??

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/people-vaccinated-covid?tab=table

IE: They all took a jab that went on to kill them?

The average number of deaths per month in the EU is near 500,000.

Correlation is not causation.

From the Eudravigilance website:

“Here is a list of important points to consider when viewing a web report:

  • For a medicine to be authorised for use, its benefits should outweigh any associated risks of side effects. At the time of authorisation of a medicine, the benefit-risk balance has been assessed and the benefits judged to outweigh the risks. All the information available on this website relates to medicines that have been assessed in this way and authorised for use in the European Economic Area (EEA).
  • The information on this website relates to suspected side effects, in other words, effects that have been observed following administration of, or treatment with, a medicine. However, these suspected side effects may not be related to or caused by the medicine.
  • All medicines can cause side effects, and it is important to note that most people take medicines without suffering any side effects.
  • Before a medicine is marketed, information on its safety and efficacy is based on use of the medicine in clinical trials. However, clinical trials may not be able to detect all side effects, as they involve limited numbers of patients. Also, some side effects may take a long time to develop, and only occur after the clinical trial is finished. Often (but not always), people taking part in clinical trials are healthy or do not have other diseases or do not normally take other medicines. This is not the situation when the medicine is used in ‘real life’. Continuous monitoring after the clinical trial is therefore essential, to maintain a comprehensive safety and effectiveness profile of the medicine. All medicines authorised for use in the EEA are continuously monitored.
  • A case can be reported on the basis of a suspicion that the side effect is associated with the medicine. It does not necessarily mean that any link between the medicine and the side effect has been established; the side effect may have occurred due to other factors, for example the disease for which the medicine is being taken or an interaction between two or more of the patient’s medicines.
  • Any individual case report should be seen in the context of all available data on the medicine. Apart from the spontaneous reports arising from the use of the medicine worldwide, there may also be reports from clinical trials, other studies and the scientific literature. Only the assessment of all available data allows for robust conclusions on the benefits and risks of a medicine to be drawn.
  • The information on this website cannot be used to determine the likelihood of experiencing a side effect. Other information, such as how many people take the medicine and how long it has been on the market, need to be considered.
  • The information is only part of the information used by the European Medicines Agency and national medicines regulatory authorities to monitor the benefits and risks of a medicine once it is authorised. Other types of information include post-authorisation safety studies, clinical-trial data and new toxicology data.
  • For more comprehensive information about the risks or possible side effects of a medicine, always refer to the summary of product characteristics and the patient information leaflet (included with the medicine). Healthcare professionals such as doctors and pharmacists can also provide this information.
icisil
Reply to  Anthony Banton
July 23, 2021 1:12 pm

Do you REALLY believe that they are the direct result of the vaccine??

I believe it’s entirely possible, and probably likely. I read dozens of personal injury reports daily and the injuries are too similar in time from vaccine receipt and sequelae, and too consistent across a large disparate group of people to be brushed off. The signal is there, as well as a credible mechanism of action, i.e., broad dispersal of spike proteins in all organs causing the body to attack itself.

David A
Reply to  icisil
July 25, 2021 8:09 am

additionally they are happening in people with no history of a condition likely to cause such an adverse event.

David A
Reply to  Anthony Banton
July 25, 2021 8:08 am

You do not understand the adverse event reporting system. See my post four or so above yours.

Philip
Reply to  Izaak Walton
July 22, 2021 11:38 pm

Many, many people have had inflammatory reactions to the covid flu shots. It’s simply not procedural to report on the negative outcomes. The push to “vaccinate” is the first and only priority. The truth is not on any one governments list, as of yet.
People haven’t been vaccinated. It’s a word game. If you are truly vaccinated you can not get what you’ve been vaccinated against, for example polio.
The number of people double vaccinated against covid, getting covid, exceeds any liberal definition of being ‘vaccinated’.
I’m all for vaccinations. I’m not a big fan of flu shots for everyone.
AND I’m no fan of the roll out of the bureaucrat/left media covid doctrine [the politicization of medicine] over actual medical practice by actual working Doctors. The Fauci flip-flop-two-step has been a national embarrassment.

Reply to  Philip
July 23, 2021 5:58 am

Please see the graph here:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274
More UK Covid-19 data at https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases

The reported number of new cases in the UK has risen to a high of 46,460 as of 22Jul2021, vs a peak of ~60,000 circa 1Jan2021.
 
This July 2021 rise in cases is also being reported in Israel – another highly-vaccinated country.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/daily-covid-infections-in-israel-top-1-000-serious-cases-climb-1.10008048

Here is an interesting question:
Covid is NOT a summer flu – it is highly seasonal and tends to peak in January as it did in 2021.
So why this July spike in “cases”,
–         Is this July case spike a result of poor testing methodology?
–         Or is it NOT a result of the virus, but rather a reaction to the “vaccines”, which have adverse effects that mimic the virus?
 
Don’t expect to get the right answer from the UK government – their track record on Covid management has been dismal.

griff
Reply to  ALLAN MACRAE
July 23, 2021 8:59 am

It is a result of the UK govt allowing large sporting etc events without testing or masks/social distancing and a relaxation of covid rules, plus rampant infections in UK schools.

60% of those being hospitalised weren’t vaccinated… (erroneously reported as 60% were, earlier)

Reply to  griff
July 23, 2021 11:40 am

Please cite sources.

Drake
Reply to  griff
July 23, 2021 1:55 pm

Wow, that means 40% WERE vaccinated.

Taking YOUR numbers, the vaccine sucks!