Guest essay by Eric Worrall
h/t JoNova; A simple tried and tested generic medical treatment which may reduce Covid deaths by 80% is slowly winning grudging acceptance.
Hunt goes off script with ivermectin
Health minister endorses doctors’ right to treat Covid
17 July 2021
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It is to Australia’s credit that one of the most effective treatments was identified at Monash University along with the Doherty Institute which showed that ivermectin kills the Sars-CoV-2 virus within 48 hours. Yet to our national shame, the researchers have been starved of resources and the discovery ignored.
Not so in Indonesia where an enterprising philanthropist, Haryoseno, leapt into action and made ivermectin available to the masses for free or at low cost. As a result, Indonesia has had an extremely low Covid mortality rate. That is until the Ministry of Health decided, in line with the WHO’s recommendation, that ivermectin would only be used in a clinical trial. Haryoseno has been threatened with a fine and a ten-year jail sentence and the supply of ivermectin has dried up. Result? Deaths per million have increased five-fold since withdrawal of ivermectin on 12 June.
In Australia, one of the few doctors brave enough to use the drug to treat patients and save lives, Dr Mark Hobart, was reported to the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (AHPRA). Thankfully, AHPRA advised that there had been no infringement. Indeed, federal Health Minister Greg Hunt wrote to one of the doctors in Australia who prescribes ivermectin confirming that he was aware that some physicians are prescribing ivermectin off-label for Covid and that they were quite within their rights as the practice of prescribing registered medicines outside of their approved indications is not regulated or controlled by the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA), it is at the discretion of the prescribing physician. Yet the silence persists. Ivermectin is the drug that dare not speak its name.
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Read more: https://spectator.com.au/2021/07/hunt-goes-off-script-with-ivermectin/
Regardless of your views about vaccination, there will always be a core of people who refuse vaccines. Having a cheap and effective generic therapeutic available would take the heat out of the debate, about whether vaccines should be mandatory.
I am not disputing that more work needs to be done, to establish the effectiveness of drug therapies, but denying therapies which appear to be well supported by anecdotal evidence could cost someone their life. President Trump understood this, when he established the right to try – a principle which in my opinion should be unequivocally extended to treatment of Covid-19.
So I applaud Health Minister Greg Hunt for standing up for choice, and hope he finds the courage to stick to his position, given the immense pressure he may be facing from vested interests, to shut down cheap generic alternatives to expensive patented treatments.
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“ Having a cheap and effective generic therapeutic available would take the heat out of the debate, about whether vaccines should be mandatory.”
Hahahaha…do you think drug companies want that?
A large Egyptian study of ivermectin for COVID-19 patients has been retracted over concerns of plagiarism and serious problems with their raw data, the publisher confirmed to MedPage Today.
Michele Avissar-Whiting, PhD, editor-in-chief of the preprint server Research Square, said in an emailed statement that the study was withdrawn on July 14 “because we were presented with evidence of both plagiarism and anomalies in the dataset associated with the study, neither of which could reasonably be addressed by the author issuing a revised version of the paper.”
Large Ivermectin Study Retracted | MedPage Today
Hey it’s Ghalfrunt who wants us to drink bleach to cure Covid
Here is a presentation of the meta analysis for Ivermectin studies to date. 60 different studies from around the world showing good positive results for the treatment of COVID-19 with Ivermectin.
https://ivmmeta.com/
Here is a similar site:
https://c19ivermectin.com/
one of the 33 or so and was rated low in the overall metadata that supported Ivermectin use overall
pity the msm of course managed to omit that
So, ghalfrunt, what does the “large Egyptian study of ivermectin for COVID-19 patients” have to do with the ivermectin-related events in Indonesia that is the subject of the above article?
The WHO does not want people using Ivermectin for COVID. But you can have it for parasites. The WHO is suppressing independent reporting on Ivermectin. And removing information from the internet and removing research from medical journals. Also pressuring governments not to use Ivermectin. The WHO is obsessed with Ivermectin.While they should be fighting the pandemic. And I think Australian doctors should be allowed to prescribe Ivermectin for COVID 19. That would be safer than having a black market and using animal treatments. Ivermectin has been used to treat over 2 billion people since 1972. And in 2015 the developers won the Nobel prize. The WHO also has Ivermectin on its list of the world’s most vital drugs.
Retracted by BUREAUCRATS on vague generalizations about plagiarism and data anomalies. Data anomalies!
Why whenever the bureau of misinformation needs hobgoblins they turn to computer models, where data anomalies is “What’s for dinner.?
It never ceases to amaze me the bold faced duplicity of the “Big Brothers” in charge.
For a pandemic, that is not really all that deadly as pandemics go, to have a non lethal treatment that shows signs of curing patients, rejected by bureaucrats, says more about those in control than is does about the disease or the suggested treatment.
“the study was withdrawn on July 14 “because we were presented with evidence of both plagiarism and anomalies in the dataset associated with the study”
So what’s your point? This study does not say whether Ivermectin is effective or not. The study is flawed and worthless for determining the effectiveness of Ivermectin, yet you imply that the results of this study says something about Ivermenctin’s effectiveness.
A poorly designed and run study does not say anything about Ivermectin, pro or con.
Many vaccines are being given free – no money there just money lost
Oxford AZ is being sold at cost and help given to countries wanting to set up there own production. – no profit there
That’s why several drug companies are investing hundreds of millions of dollars each for new or larger vaccine production facilities. They do that so they won’t make money. Pull the other one.
OK:
1), Wife’s cousin, in Montreal, got vaccinated. Pfizer. She had a severe reaction to her first dose. First china virus symptoms, severe, with eye problems, continuously must wear sunglasses, light hurts.. Taken in for Cat scan in May. Now she must undergo some sort of eye procedure due to swelling in her macular and retina. Never had the second dose. Was told she was allergic to the vac. The first almost killed her.
Her husband and mother were OK with the vac.
2) Step daughters uncle had BOTH doses, then came into contact with someone and caught the Chinavirus. Symptoms 3 days ago, now DEAD. Wife never vaccinated, got it too, on her way to the hospital after finding her husband dead. Her OX is good, she has symptoms but not bad, they think her stress may be the problem.
3) My mother, 90 at the time, had swelling in her legs after the second dose, no problem with the first.
My wife and I have no intention of getting any of the three vaccines available at this time. Just the FACT that 65% or so have had a vaccine, disregarding the % who had the Chinavirus, herd immunity should be NOW, but it is not. I am hearing of MANY people who have been vaccinated who are getting the Chinavirus but with “MILD” symptoms. But if there are symptoms, they can spread the virus. Also seeing in the news of vaccinated people dying.
So for me,D3, zinc, eat and stay healthy, etc. I may try to get some Ivermectin and/or hydroxychloroquine. We will be traveling almost continuously for the next few months.
Finally, the OBiden open boarders plan is bringing massive numbers of infected illegals into the country. All this spread is on the Democrats, but they are happy to reintroduce the lockdowns where possible.
And finally, “no profit there”, BS, and you are a moron to think they are not making a bundle on this crap.
Thank you for sharing Drake, what a nightmare.
You might add Quercetin to your cocktail.
Stu,
After reading others commenting on Quercetin, as well as K2, I did some research and intend to do so. I am diabetic and have some concern, but not enough to risk the vaccine. Thank you for your concern.
Drake
Hippocrates principal is that disease starts in the gut.
Fast forward today and the talk is about gut permeability. When the gut is permeable, LPS (Lipopolysacharide) which is released from bacteria when they die in the gut crosses the mucosal and epithelial lining in the gut and then into the bloodstream where it triggers an immune response very often leading to low grade chronic inflamation. Not good. In my case, i developed Pustular Psoriasis which my doctor and two other specialists opined was incurable and all i could do was take steroids and so on.
Not satisfied i addressed my leaky gut and did everything i could to rebuild it and at the time my favourite youtube biology nerd was Kiran Krishnan who is the chief science officer at Microbiome Labs. Their approach is to use spore based probiotics which actually do make it through the stomach so that the spores can germinate in the gut. The most important gut bacteria is Bacillus Subtilis and is arguably the most important bacteria in the animal kingdom.
Bacillus Subtilis has been outsourced by nature to make copious amounts of K2 and to up and down regulate other bacteria in the gut. Bacillus Subtilis is like the microbiomes gardener. It can sense bacterial dysbiosis and is able to knock out pathogens by releasing a targeted dose of an antiobiotic similar to bactitracin which was the first antibiotic discovered and isolated from Bacillus Subtilis. Bacilus Subtilis was first isolated from camel dung by German and French pharmaceutical company in the 1940’s from memory and used to treat dysentry and gut conditions in children etc ever since. It is also used extensively in agriculture to fix up dysbiosis in the soil and topical use on plants.
I did not use the Spore based probiotics from Microbiome Labs, however i did embark on learning how to make Natto which amongst other beans fermented with the same Bacilus Subtilis , the food with highest amount of vitamin K2 on the planet.
At first i did not know that the process of fermenting beans was practised throughout the world, Japan, Korea, China, India etc.
The process for fermenting beans is simplified here into steps. This is an ultra rough guide and it is quite flexible. I find using vegetation from the wild to get my Bacillus Subtilis starter culture makes a much better umami flavour than the Japanese starter culture in fact i found the Korean you tube videos on how to make fermented beans were much better and more detailed also. I usually mash up my fermented beans and mix it through pasta sauce or add it to light soups etc. It satisfies my need to add other codniments like cheese to my soups so it is really multi purpose. In my opinion, the japanese Natto is cultured to make it less smelly and so forth which definetly makes japanese style natto a lot less flavourful and less umami.
//First, soak the beans.
//Steam/boil/pressure cook the beans until soft.
//Boil a little vegetation like straw, dried grass, some leaves, or rice straw. (The boiling process kills all the other bacteria and only the high temperature resistant dormant Bacillus Subtilis spores remain on the boiled material.)
//Drain the bolied straw/other.
//Place a small amount of the sterilized material containing the spore starter culture on a shallow tray.
//Place a layer of about 30mm of steamed or pressure cooked beans on the first layer and then scatter a little more starter culture material on top and cover the tray but not completely. Some place some cling wrap over the tray and then make some small holes.
// Keep the tray of beans and starter culture at around 37 to 40 degrees Celsius.
//Incubate for a couple of days until the beans become sticky.
In my case, i had a complete remission of my Pustular Psoriasis and other health problems i was having like shortness of breath and poor circulation. I attribute the remission in shortness of breath other to the vitamin K2 found in the fermented beans and the restoration of my gut lining and renewed appetite to the work done by Bacillus Subtilis.
Hope it helps.
K2 is too expensive to buy in meaningful amounts and making ones own via fermented beans was an excellent and tasty solution in my case.
A talk about the immune system by my favourite biology nerd full of references for those who are discerning.
“Kiran Krishnan — The Microbiome’s Control of Immune Function501 views
Jul 6, 2021”
Interesting, but what does a lazy person on the road do?
Do you have any specific brands that you used before making your own?
I often use cheese as a thickener in soups like minestrone, kale and other vegetable soups, so a substitute would be something I would use.
Thanks Drake for the question.
Indeed i started from K2 supplement on a background of around 400mcg per day and the effect was obvious to me after about two or three weeks. No more breathlessness and it has stayed that way, however i pondered the ‘what if’ the source of this vitamin is as important as the vitamin itself being the workhorse of the ages, the immortal somewhat Bacillus Subtilis itself. Viable spores of BS have been found in the gut of bees in amber many thousands of years old.
Nearly every culture has at some time made the observation that cooked beans wrapped in banana leaves or rice stalks or other will eventually ferment under the right conditions and produce a superior nutrition to the bean itself that withstands spoiling to a large extent like the example of milk turning into yogurt or cheese.
My first batches of natto were made with commercially available styrene foam trays of natto that i later divided up into quarters to stir through some freshly boiled/steamed/pressure cooked beans, however, going to an asian or Japanese store is not something i wanted to do frequently, so my next challenge was to figure out how to make it from scratch, hence my very rough guide.
I like my wild inoculated fermented natto type beans better than the Japanese bought in a shop version because it is much cheesier in flavour and the japanese cloned variety of Bacillus Subtilis has been selected to not be as smelly and cheesy as the wild type process which is similar to the way Koreans make their fermented beans for example.
Here is a link to the types of natto i started with before i started making my Bacillus Subtilis fermented beans from scratch without the need of over the counter Natto or natto starter culture spores which are quite expensive. The trays are relatively affordable and provide about 800mcg of K2 per serving.
https://livejapan.com/en/article-a0002227/
A recent study a couple of days old.
“Impact of Bacillus in fermented soybean foods on human health”https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8285709/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8285709/
A little more cultural detail pertaining to Bacillus Subtilis. In South Africa it is called Ogiri. In Korea the preparation and use of this wonderful bacteria is on another marketing level of awareness. Method of production is detailed and is the basis of such dishes as dead body soup. Probiotics in the west is still in the dark ages. In my opinion.
“Amazing skills of making Dead body soup (Cheonggukjang) / 청국장 / Korean street food”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj1wA2SeiJo
Forgive my indulgence on the idea that the west is in the probiotic dark ages
https://dobbyssignature.com/food-profile-ogiri-iru-dawadawa-okpei/
Forgive my additional indulgence that the west is in the probiotic dark ages.
https://dobbyssignature.com/food-profile-ogiri-iru-dawadawa-okpei/
“Hippocrates principal is that disease starts in the gut.”
I just read about a study where two groups of people were fed certain diets. One diet was a normal diet of healthy foods minus any foods that had been fermented, such as cottage cheese or yogurt. And the other group were allowed to eat fermented foods.
The first group that did not eat fermented foods, did not see any enhancement or change in the organisms in their stomachs, but those who ate the yogurt and cottage cheese saw substantial increases in beneficial organisms in their stomachs, which contribute to enhancing the human immune system.
I would recommend that everyone start eating yogurt and cottage cheese, if they are not already doing so. That’s what I’m doing. 🙂
The whole talk is elucidating by Kiran and Tina Anderson in the link below, however there are considerations. From memory, there have been clinical trials involving both live and dead yogurt. The live or dead yogurt was equally beneficial to the exisiting microbiome.
https://youtu.be/xrro5jUIBYY?t=2016
Mike,
Thank you for all your great information.
As to Tom above, I guess I am lucky that I enjoy a breakfast of 1 C frozen blueberries, thawed with 1 C cottage cheese, with cinnamon and flax several times a week. I guess, without knowing the benefit, I have been getting some fermented food.
I love this site. WUWT posters provide so much added knowledge that it is quite honestly astounding how mush one can learn on a daily basis, and Charles and Andrew allowing side tracks like this to run is also a great benefit of sensible moderation, Thanks Charles!
Drake
“So for me,D3, zinc, eat and stay healthy, etc. I may try to get some Ivermectin and/or hydroxychloroquine.”
That’s a good idea. Dexamthasone is also proving to be very effective in treating the Wuhan virus.
Keep in mind that Pfizer says they have a new drug, in pill form, which they claim will be ready for public release in about six months, that can stop all forms of Corona virus and variants in their tracks. That’s the way it is working in mouse models right now.
If it works like Pfizer says, then this medicine could substitute for a vaccination.
All indications are that, whatever you use to treat the Wuhan virus, you should start the treatment as soon as possible after discovering you are infected. The sooner you start, the quicker you eliminate the virus from your body.
The Wuhan virus is a nasty virus. It’s doing all sorts of harm to the human body. So get it out of there quick!
Tom,
Thank you for this and your above comment.
I find it interesting that Pfizer will be ready to come out with a medication that will do the job on the Chinavirus, but not until after they have sold as many doses of their vaccine as practical, considering the number of people like my wife and I who will not accept the stick.
Just because you are a conspiracy theorist doesn’t mean it is not a conspiracy!
BTW, in this mornings paper: The OBiden DOJ, you know, with Merrick Garland, the supposed moderate Obama SCOTUS appointee as Attorney General, is dropping all investigations of Democrat governors for sticking active Chinavirus patients into nursing homes, what a surprise!
Drake.
“BTW, in this mornings paper: The OBiden DOJ, you know, with Merrick Garland, the supposed moderate Obama SCOTUS appointee as Attorney General, is dropping all investigations of Democrat governors for sticking active Chinavirus patients into nursing homes, what a surprise!”
The corrupt, compromised Biden administration is also dropping charges against six or eight Chinese scientists, one of whom admitted publicly that he was spying for the Chicoms.
When you get in bed with the Chicoms like Biden and his son have done in the past, that limits the actions you can take against the Chicoms. You don’t want all those under-the-table money deals made public, so you go easy on the Chicoms.
Tom Abbot posted: “Keep in mind that Pfizer says they have a new drug, in pill form, which they claim will be ready for public release in about six months, that can stop all forms of Corona virus and variants in their tracks.”
Per Section 312.7 from Title 21 the US Code of Federal Regulations, it against the law for “a sponsor or investigator, or any person acting on behalf of a sponsor or investigator,” to “represent in a promotional context that an investigational new drug is safe or effective for the purpose for which it is under investigation or otherwise promote the drug . . . to preclude commercialization of the drug before it is approved for commercial distribution.” (my bold emphasis added)
Since Pfizer’s “new drug, in pill form” has obviously not yet been approved by the FDA for commercial distribution, Pfizer is in violation of existing law (Section 312.7 of Title 21 of US CFR) if what Tom Abbot claims is true.
Of course, this would not be the first time Pfizer is caught with its hand in the cookie jar:
“In 2004, Pfizer agreed to pay $430 million in a DOJ settlement and pleaded guilty to two violations of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act for marketing the drug Neurontin, also known as gabapentin, for unapproved uses.
“According to a statement from the DOJ, the Warner-Lambert company – which Pfizer acquired in 2000 – promoted Neurontin “even when scientific studies had shown it was not effective.”
and
In 2009, there was “a settlement involving Pfizer in which the company pleaded guilty to a federal criminal charge relating to the marketing of four drugs. The company agreed to pay $2.3 billion as part of the settlement.
“The Pharmacia & Upjohn Company – a subsidiary of Pfizer – agreed to plead guilty to a felony violation of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act for misbranding the painkiller Bextra “with the intent to defraud or mislead,” according to the Department of Justice.”
Source of above quoted text excerpts related to Pfizer’s settlements related to misleading advertising: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/05/19/fact-check-resolved-lawsuits-against-pfizer-alleged-marketing-fraud/4857499001/
But, sure, go ahead and believe Pfizer has your best interests in mind!
The drug companies want to make a new version of Ivermectin that can be patented. Ivermectin was developed in 1972 and is no longer patented. So no big profits for the drug industry making Ivermectin. So they are telling WHO that Ivermectin is useless for COVID. And the drug industry has the money to do studies supporting their interests. Such as saying Ivermectin is of no use in treating seriously ill people with COVID. Where Ivermectin is much better used for prevention and early treatment. Before people become seriously ill. Ivermectin is also useful post COVID for long haulers. To make a new Ivermectin they will try and add or delete one or two molecules so they can claim it is new. It is likely that when people working for the WHO want a new job they can get a well-paid job in the drug industry. This is the same type of system that led to the Fukushima disaster. Government regulators would get well-paid jobs in private nuclear industry when they retire. Or like retired political leaders get well-paid jobs doing consultancy. Ivermectin is actually a very important and interesting drug for uses other than COVID. It has multiple interesting actions and uses. A Japanese guy found Ivermectin in a sample he got from a golf course. He and another guy won a Nobel prize in 2015. And the WHO has it on its list of the world’s most vital drugs. Mainly used in less developed nations.
You don’t have the best reputation for honesty and clear thinking due to your post history.
Well sone to you and simon for trying to counter some of the ignorant, dangerous crackpot bs being spread in this thread. The ad hom attacks on you for doing so should be a source of shame for the the author of this article and the publishers of this blog. Alas they appear shameless.
Sorry Izaak, you too deserve a medal for making the effort.
You are a known liar
Yet you can’t provide any evidence.
Russia colluuuusion;)
Ah, but Russian Collusion is obvious:
Hilbillary sold out US uranium stocks while SS
Billhillary took $800,000.00 speaking fees from Russian companies at the same time.
OBiden approved the Russian pipeline while cancelling the Canadian pipeline.
So there is Russian Collusion!!
You meant with TRUMP!? Sorry, my bad. Yep, that was total BS. And Loydo as all over it.
That coming from an ignorant dangerous crackpot spreading BS on this thread.
LOL
Just because you aren’t paying when they stick the jab in your arm doesn’t mean Big Pharma isn’t getting paid. Uncle Sam already paid them WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS, so in truth, you paid. There is a reason pharma stock prices are shooting through the roof, and it’s not because of their generosity and civic spirit. It’s because they are making money hand over fist off the jabs, and figure to make even more in the future with booster shots every 6-12 months.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MRNA?p=MRNA&.tsrc=fin-srch-v1
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MRNA?p=MRNA&.tsrc=fin-srch-v1
The “vaccines” have created a number of new billionaires while people were dying when denied the drugs that could have cured them.
no profit for a brief time, then whammo
“Free”? I visited my doctor recently, ask about a prescription for an antiviral and was told no, I could get the ‘vaccine’ for free while I was there. I made an excuse about not having the time and left, spent the next days collecting information:
Failure to provide informed consent constitutes a crime against humanity, for which Nazi doctors were hung, and the reason new trials are slated.
Search No Jab For Me – Americas Frontline Doctors – C19early
In initial deals with the US government, Pfizer and BioNTech’s vaccine costs $19.50 per dose, compared with $15 for Moderna’s shot, $16 for Novavax’s, $10 for Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine and $4 for AstraZeneca’s.
June 2021 140 million * $19.50 = $2.73 billion
Free?
kevin Americas Frontline Doctors are these the ones suggesting womens “problems” are caused by dreaming of sex with a demon. Whose leader Simone Gold and whose communications director John Strand were part of the 6th Jan insurrection
They should certainly be listened to!
Please, there was no Jan 6 insurrection, except the one in.Nancy Pelosi’s head. Sex with a demon? That’s preposterous! Provide your evidence or go slink away.
No ghalfrump, Americas Frontline Doctors are suggesting that girls can be boys if they close their eyes, click their heels 3 times while chanting “there’s no place like home and the boys room at school.”
In addition to a mountain of other bureaucratic nonsense they have been feeding post 1990 public high school gradiates with 8th grade reading proficiency and 4th grade math skills, it is not about the truth but how gullible the masses.
You horribly misunderstand economics. “Free” to the recipient doesn’t remotely mean no massive profit for the drug companies. In Canada, the government is providing the vaccines to the population for “free”. Here’s the catch, the government has no money, the taxpayers provide that money. Worse, in Canada, because our government screwed up early acquisition of the drug so badly, the Canadian government paid four times the price that England did for the Astra Zeneca vaccine on a per dose basis. So the Canadian tax payer is paying four times the amount that the English tax payer is paying. Regardless of the country involved and whether the recipient of the vaccine pays directly out of pocket or not, the vaccine is indeed paid for. None of the pharmaceutical companies are doing this for free.
If Ivermectin proves useful as a treatment (not a cure and not a replacement for effective vaccine therapy) in severely reducing the number of hospitalizations (and deaths) it could effectively be an alternate approach to the vaccine for those that do not wish to rush into a rushed vaccine (most countries it only has emergency approval, not full approval) and could significantly impact the bottom line for those pharmaceutical companies.
I’ve never had particular issues with pharmaceutical companies and a for profit model, but there are a great many who do. The reputations and general respect accorded to pharmaceutical manufacturers has changed dramatically over the past 18 months. I wonder why that is?
ghalfrunt. Would that be Gag Halfrunt? If it is, I find that screen name entirely appropriate.
For those who do not know…
Gag Halfrunt is the sinister bastard from the ‘Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy’ that arranged the destruction of the Earth so it wouldn’t ruin his psychology practice by answering what the meaning of life is.
Ivermectin is a remarkable molecule. That’s coming from someone who eschews all pharmaceuticals.
The mechanisms of action of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-021-00430-5.pdf
World-first COVID-19 antiviral therapy developed in Brisbane and US targets virus in the body – ABC News
Ivermectin does not kill COVID 19. But it may stop the virus from moving through cell walls. That means COVID can not replicate or hide inside cells. So WHO claims it is not an antiviral drug so it is useless for treating COVID. WHO also recommends Ivvermectin for children with parasites but claims it is too dangerous to treat COVID. Meanwhile, most of the drugs used for treating COVID disease are not antivirals. They treat the symptoms. COVID disease is very complex. Including autoimmune, lung and cardiovascular diseases. And possibly complex pneumonia and serotonin toxicity in the lungs. ( not in the nerve synapses ). Some of the reasons why steroids are being used for a viral infection. ( when the lungs are congested ). The WHO is obsessed with stopping Ivermectinuse for COVID. While they should be managing the pandemic. And because Ivermectin is no longer patented the major drug companies do not want to sell it. They have more modern and expensive drugs that are less effective against COVID. And they want to add a molecule or two to Ivermectin so they can claim they have a new drug.
Those in Latin America take ivermectin. It is their “normal” Covid-medication as there are no vaccines or other expensive drugs.
No effect observed.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2777389
Mild covid cases showed the no effect. I’d be very curious about more serious cases. There are many cases of mild covid, as defined, that require no treatment. In that respect I wouldn’t find the outcome particularly surprising. In Canada we aren’t treating mild Covid with anything. Anything more than mild ends up in the hospital. If Ivermectin can keep people out of hospital or get them out of there without heading to the ICU, it’s well worth investigation.
“In Canada we aren’t treating mild Covid with anything.”
That is the mistake being made in the United States, too.
Every Wuhan virus infection should be treated right from the start. Sitting at home and not treating it is rolling the dice on your life. This is the official position of the American Medical Authorities.
You may be mostly unaffected by the Wuhan infection, but then again, you might be severely affected by the infection. Treating early with Ivermectin will not harm a person, so there is little reason not to treat it, and early treatment may prevent those susceptible to the disease from getting into critical condition. There is nothing to lose by treating with Ivermectin, and there might be a lot to gain by doing so.
They frame it as no effect. But there were many improvements if you look for them. And the average age of those in the study was young. Which isn’t the point. The young are strong. And they recover. They framed it as a fail. You can see that. But it wasn’t one.
Physician Dr Vernon Coleman talks common sense about Covid-19:
https://vernoncoleman.org/videos/lockdowns-masks-rules-are-coming-back
Eric,
I am surprised you can write the phase “well supported by anecdotal evidence” with a straight face. If I were to claim that climate change is well supported by anecdotal evidence you would not doubt be shouting from the rooftops that that was rubbish and not science.
It is however true that the jury is still out on Ivermectin. Most peer reviewed studies with proper randomised controls find little to no positive effects. But there has not been a large scale properly designed study that can properly answer the question.
More BS from Ivan – Ivermectin works very well, HCQ works almost as well.
If you cannot get either, try Quercetin (ref Dr Vladimir Zelenko)..
Take with Vitamin D, C and Zinc.
Allan,
there is little to no scientific evidence that Ivermectin works. And only recently the largest study showing a positive effect was withdrawn due to fraud. See
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns
Currently no one has done a proper study to see whether or not Ivermectin is effective as a treatment. Thus it is too soon to say whether or not it works. HCQ on the other hand has repeatedly been shown to be ineffective in proper randomised studies.
You are wrong as always.
Deliberately wrong.
Evil wrong.
Well there is this meta-analysis. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8248252/
The author has since redone the meta-analysis without the Egyptian study and her results were even stronger in favour of Ivermectin. See the latest Dark Horse podcast for that.
Refernece for that https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/FLCCC-BIRD-Guardian-Elgazzar-Study-FINAL-1.pdf
That is nonsense. If you remove a positive trial from a meta-analysis there is no way that the results will end up stronger than before.
And even with the Egyptian study included the conclusion was that there was only “moderate” evidence that Ivermectin was effective. Removing the Egyptian study is likely to reduce the quality of the evidence and also the size of the effect.
With all that said, there is still evidence that Ivermectin is effective at reducing death. But it is a long way short of what would be consider good quality. As I stated at the start the jury is still out on the efficiency of Ivermectin. Furthermore even at best Ivermectin reduces the risk of death by about 50% compared to 90+% for the vaccines.
“Furthermore even at best Ivermectin reduces the risk of death by about 50% compared to 90+% for the vaccines.”
So you are admitting Ivermectin actually reduces the risk of death by a substantial amount? Thank you! An easy to make, transport and store drug that reduces the risk of death substantially! Keep in mind a 90% effective vaccine is 0% effective if you can’t get it to the village in nowheresville.
I’m vaccinated but I live in a first world country. Not so easy for most people in the world.
Rbabcock
I think it is downright humorous to hear on the CBC, loons punting vaccines saying they will not associate with people who have not been vaccinated. They fear getting the Delta variant from them, they say.
This reflects an interesting level of ignorance – the vaccines do not prevent someone getting any of the variants. The idea is it helps manage the consequences when that happens. You are protected until you encounter a strain that evades your prepared defenses.
I assume then, that these vaccinated individuals prefer to catch the Delta variant from a vaccinated person instead of an unvaccinated one, yes?
Consider this: if a vaccinated person has the Delta variant (or more likely a variation of it) then their body will defeat the regular strains and allow the vaccine-evading strains to proliferate. Someone who only hangs around with vaccinated people is therefore more likely to encounter a vaccine-evading strain than they will if they associate with the unvaccinated deplorables who carry the mundane strain(s).
I see some Darwin Award aspirants lurking about.
Personally, I do not care if someone else is vaccinated or not.
Why should I?
If vaccines do not prevent infection, then either we have to lock down and isolate literally forever, or we will each have to be exposed to and have our immune system deal with the virus.
Then it will be over with.
So let’s get on with getting it over with.
BTW…no one seems to be mentioning the disparities between the different vaccines.
And how these disparities match up with disparities in how each vaccine does vs each variant.
With regard to variants, the newest and best data indicates that delta is more transmissible but less deadly that the original or than some of the other variants.
A new study was released Wednesday regarding real world vs clinical trial efficacy of two vaccines, and also how these two did vs two strains of the virus.
The summary is about as follows:
Real world results, after two shots,
Pfizer is about 93.7% effective vs alpha, and 88% vs delta.
AstraZeneca (AZ) is about 74.5% effective vs alpha and about 67% vs delta
Real world, after one shot, both showed similar results,
each was ~ 30% effective vs delta, and ~ 48.7% effective vs alpha.
Those results are regarding efficacy at preventing infection.
For both, efficacy vs severe infection and/or death was considerably higher.
Those details can be gotten from other reports that are linked in the study document:
Effectiveness of Covid-19 Vaccines against the B.1.617.2 (Delta) Variant | NEJM
Of course, for anyone who does not believe in the virus or in vaccines, this is all meaningless gobbledygook.
What that adds up to is, after two doses, the delta variant was only marginally more able to overcome the protection offered by the vaccine vs mild illness.
But the baseline efficacy of the vaccines is rather large, and when coupled with the reductions in efficacy vs variants, the upshot is that 12% of people fully vaccinated with Pfizer will become infected if exposed, while almost three times as many, some 33%, of those fully vaccinated with AZ will become infected if exposed to the delta strain.
Since so many people are not being vaccinated, and few are ever gonna consider it acceptable to have forced vaccinations, it is just a matter of time before everyone gets exposed, unless we lock down and isolate forever and do so perfectly.
None of which things are possible or feasible or in any way desirable.
So, given all of that, it seems to me an inescapable logical conclusion that at some point we are all gonna have to deal with this virus in our body, and come what may of it.
I am ready to get it over with, for myself, and am looking to enroll in a direct challenge study.
And the reason I am willing to do that and not at all worried, is because the virus was never highly lethal to any but the very old and very sick, and even among those people, most survived even before therapeutics and experience is managing the severe form of the disease made deaths more rare than ever.
The US, for example, has highly effective monoclonal antibody drugs in virtually every hospital, in large supply, going unused.
It is a scandal, and another thing no one is talking about.
For anyone with no insurance, clinical trials are readily available to get one of those, or any of several other therapeutics.
And finally, what do the vaccines do vs severe covid leading to death?
Why are people talking about “cases”, when most of the cases, even among the unvaccinated, are either non symptomatic or only mildly symptomatic?
All we ever really had to worry about was getting a severe case.
So, how have the vaccines altered the risk of dying?
First we need to keep in mind that most of the people in older age cohorts have been vaccinated, no one under a certain age has been vaccinated, and age is generally inversely correlated with vaccination rates.
So the vaccinated tend to be those that are at the most risk to begin with.
Here in the US, many states have by now published details of the particulars of who has died among the vaccinated and the unvaccinated.
I for one try to stick to plainly worded stats, and pay less attention to those that are worded in a convoluted manner.
OK, large state, Texas, deaths since February.
All but 43 Texas COVID-19 deaths since February were unvaccinated people | The Texas Tribune
As of Monday, only about 42.8% of Texans are fully vaccinated, so a lot less than that were vaccinated back when these numbers are going back to.
In spite of that, the report is starkly favorable for vaccination.
There have been 8,787 deaths due to covid in Texas since Early February.
Of those 8,787 deaths, a total of 43 of them have occurred among individuals who were fully vaccinated at the time they died.
Most are not vaccinated, and most vulnerable people are, but in spite of that, over 99.5% of all the deaths in Texas have been amongst the unvaccinated.
These numbers will be more able to discern the true risk as time goes by, of course.
We know from the earliest reports of the clinical trials that the vaccines are not 100% effective against even the original strain.
So it is no surprise some people get sick and some die anyway.
Vaccines can only work to the extent that a person is able to generate an acquired immune response.
This ability wanes with age.
People on certain medications have their immune system switched off…people with autoimmune conditions who take drugs like Remicade or Enbrel or any of the others in this class.
Also anyone with cancer has a high likelihood of a greatly impaired immune system, especially if they have undergone recent chemo or radiation therapy.
So at any given time, a large number of people are not capable of generating an immune response when vaccinated.
This has been true even with the best vaccines.
From the earliest vaccines, the idea was always to give a person higher chance of getting a mild or asymptomatic infection.
Vaccines cannot kill anything before they enter the body, or even immediately after they do so.
What they do is eliminate the lag that first time exposure to a given antigen entails before an acquired immune response to that specific antigen can be generated.
At best.
Frankly, my opinion is that anything close to 90+% effectiveness is a miracle.
An honest to God miracle.
Even if we had only a single successful vaccine candidate.
That is my opinion.
And we have, to a large degree, Donald Trump to thank for coming up with a plan to cut out the usual years of red tape, foot dragging, and delays, and also to take the unprecedented step of having the federal government fund manufacturing of the vaccines before they were even tested, so that we might have them faster if and when any proved safe and effective.
I also place the blame for vaccine doubt where it belongs, with those people who spent most of 2020 saying they would never take a “Trump Vaccine”.
Here is a mashup of the two worst offenders in this regard:
“Biden’s crusade to undermine vaccine confidence”
https://twitter.com/KyleMartinsen_/status/1416094954603044864?s=20
“With regard to variants, the newest and best data indicates that delta is more transmissible but less deadly that the original or than some of the other variants.”
This is usually the way viruses evolve, isn’t it? They get less dangerous with time? If it went the other way, they would eventually k!ll off their host.
Your other comments were excellent, too.
I just got back from a swing thru rural Africa, Ivermectin is available and will be used if COVID becomes an issue. The infrastructure to support a vaccination was not.
The study was positive, but not as positive as the others in the use as a prophylactic. Thus when withdrawn, the core result showed a better result, but the range of possibility increased
If you’re lying in an ICU, it’s too late for a vaccine. Wouldn’t you want them to give Ivermectin a try?
“Wouldn’t you want them to give Ivermectin a try?”
Izaak and ghalfront would appear to prefer they let you d!e.
Everyone has laughed off your pathetic attempts tolie about global warming but what you are lying about here will kill people. you must be an extremely evil person.
The jury is out? They are out all right, trying to find a source of Ivermectin. They will be back when they get some under the counter.
If the removed positive study is less positive then the balance of peer reviewed studies , then of course the net positive will increase with said removal.
The evidence of Ivermectin being effective is overwhelming. Read the studies! Look at the results in many nations.
(I would not be one bit surprised that the removal of the study was false and political. Your use of the word “fraud” certainly is telling.)
This really does sound illogical to me;
“If you remove a positive trial from a meta-analysis there is no way that the results will end up stronger than before.”
If the trial removed was less positive than the cumulative average of all the studies, why wouldn’t that cause the remaining cumulative average positive numbers to rise? Am I missing something, some specialized meaning of the word ‘stronger’ perhaps, or did you just make an illogical statement there?
Izaak the Idiot, where is the evidence that the mRNA gene treatments work as advertised?
Note: no response.
Since you asked:
Efficacy and Safety of the mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine | NEJM
This study used what is considered the gold standard of evidence of efficacy of any drug, and it was a very large trial, done on a very old and very sick average population, including thousands of people with conditions that would normally exclude them from a clinical trial.
IOW, this is as good as evidence gets in the world of medicine, love it or hate it.
That is for Moderna.
I do not think much of the AstraZeneca or J&J ones…they are far less efficacious than Moderna or Pfizer, in clinical trials and now in real world follow up studies.
If you want more let me know.
There’s no scientific evidence, as you frame it, that PEEP in mechanical ventilation is beneficial or has saved a single life. Yet doctors out of fear used it as a first resort to treat covid patients, contrary to decades of clinical practice that relegated it to last resort due to its harmful effects.
There is an abundance of clinical evidence that ivermectin is very effective. And at this point that’s all that’s really necessary. It’s very safe and cheap, so there’s absolutely no downside to trying it. Only a criminally homicidal mind that cares more about purist “science” than peoples’ lives would disagree. Medicine is as much experience and informed hunch as it is your kind of purist science that realistically only very deep pockets can fund. And we know that they don’t fund anything they can’t profit from and control.
There has been many studies and meta studies completed and Ivermectin works. Ivermectin is being used around the world, in those countries that can’t afford expensive vaccines. Many Indian states use it , Indonesia, Mexico, South Africa. The data is out there – just don’t expect it be in the MSM. Remember vaccines will not be authorised if there is an available cure, as the saying goes ‘follow the money’.
Zimbabwe has a huge shortage of medicines but a supply of cheap Ivermectin which seems to have been beneficial to doctors working at the coal face.
Zimbabwe is an excellent case study. They have nearly nothing else so they went with what they could afford. Their case count is low, the death count is low, their tolerance of BS from Big Pharma is low. It is possible they could have done even better with vaccines, but we are not going to know.
There is some mention above that the vaccines are “free” to poor countries. That is a sop to the masses. The whole campaign is to get vaccines approved (they are not) and make them mandatory. That is a multi-trillion dollar play over 10 years. They can afford to hand some freebies to the penurious.
Here is a study that was recently released:
Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
It is here for the reading:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/
Conclusion:
In summary, based on the totality of the trials and epidemiologic evidence presented in this review along with the preliminary findings of the Unitaid/WHO meta-analysis of treatment RCTs and the guideline recommendation from the international BIRD conference, ivermectin should be globally and systematically deployed in the prevention and treatment of COVID-19.
Since the Summer of 2020, there has been a large increase in peer reviewed studies on the efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine, Vitamin D, Zinc, and Ivermectin. There are now over 200 studies showing the efficacy of HCQ, Vitamin D, Zinc, and Ivermectin:
https://c19study.com/
Why is this evidence being ignored by the medical community?
“Why is this evidence being ignored by the medical community?”
Why indeed.
Big Pharma seems to be the answer. They have a vested interest in treatments being ignored, and the authorities seem to be in their pockets.
The withdrawal of that study makes no difference to the meta-analysis. It was consistent with heaps of other studies that are conveniently ignored.
The scientific evidence is literally overwhelming at this point.
https://ivmmeta.com/
There is no claim for “fraud” there are ethical concerns – bad data management and plagerism.
Indonesia shows, at scale, that ivermectin works well. Many thousands of lives have been saved until the government banned its use a few weeks ago – with deadly result – a 500% increase in fatalities in a month. Idiots!
The vaccine producers have a major interest in claiming that no inexpensive and widely available drug works well. If one or more do, they will not get government sponsorship for vaccine development and distribution. American law. Read it.
Quercetin, Colchicine, Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine and kilo-doses of Vitamin D3 all show dramatic benefit without the dreadful side effects of emergency-use mRNA vaccines. Thousands of lives have been saved by the vaccines. Also, thousands of people’s lives have been ruined by reactions to the vaccines. They are immature technologies. I have confidence they will one day work well; this is not that day.
“Indonesia shows, at scale, that ivermectin works well. Many thousands of lives have been saved until the government banned its use a few weeks ago – with deadly result – a 500% increase in fatalities in a month. Idiots!”
Look at the example of India. They had Indian States that promoted taking Ivermectin and Indians States that banned Ivermectin.
In the States that promoted Ivermectin, infection rates and death rates fell dramatically.
In the States that banned Ivermectin, infection rates and death rates climbed dramatically.
What more evidence does one need?
funny how there arent “official studies” when they sure have time etc to have done so???
but then off patent isnt going to make billions is it?
Actually, studies for re-purposing approved drugs have come up with about 30 different drugs that all seem to work about as well. Take your choice! Even placebos seem to work nearly as well.
Link?
I couldn’t get hydroxychoroquine so my wife and I take quercetin, zinc, d3, k2 mark 7 and vit c amongst other supplements daily. If these easily obtainable things suddenly become harder or impossible to get I will not be surprised.
ACC600 (NAC) is even used at hospitals and may prevent, or help prevent COV19
“If you cannot get either, try Quercetin (ref Dr Vladimir Zelenko)..
Take with Vitamin D, C and Zinc.”
I still take all that stuff, and I’ve been vaccinated.
And if I do get the Wuhan infection, I will take Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine as soon as I realize I’m infected. I have both drugs on hand.
I’m not taking any chances with the Wuhan virus. I don’t want blood clots appearing in my various organs, and will do everything I can think of to keep that from happening.
My main question about the Wuhan virus is, how long does it take for the virus to start doing real damage to the human system? It is obvious that the longer the virus stays in your body, the more damage it does, but what about the first week or two? What’s it doing then?
The Wuhan virus discombobulates the human immune system. How long does it take to do this? We know that some people who were asymptomatic still developed long-term after-effects from the infection, so even though the person felt no strong symptoms, their bodies still sustained damage to their immune systems. Could this have been prevented by early treatment?
DOCTORS RAISE AWARENESS ON IVERMECTIN TREATMENT FOR COVID-19
By Meiling Lee July 24, 2021
[excerpt]
In an effort to help end the pandemic, an international coalition of medical experts is holding worldwide events Saturday to raise awareness about the effectiveness of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19.
Organizers of the World Ivermectin Day say doctors and supporters of the inexpensive FDA-approved drug will host free online and public events in over a dozen countries.
Two nonprofits—Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care (FLCCC) Alliance and the British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) group—who have been campaigning for the off-label use of ivermectin to prevent and treat COVID-19 say the event’s focus is to let more people know that the antiparasitic drug can treat COVID-19, possibly end the pandemic, and help eliminate fear of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.
“We have an incredibly positive and uplifting message to share: ivermectin treats and prevents COVID and it is the key to unlocking the never-ending cycle of pandemic peaks and personal restrictions and will help restart economies,” Dr. Tess Lawrie, cofounder of the BIRD group said in a press release.
Lawrie is also a co-author of a peer-reviewed meta-analysis study published in the American Journal of Therapeutics that found ivermectin to be effective against COVID-19, the disease caused by the CCP virus. Lawrie and her team concluded with a moderate level of confidence that ivermectin reduced the risk of death by an average of 62 percent, at a 95 percent confidence interval of 0.19-0.73, especially when prescribed early.
WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT EARLY AT-HOME COVID TREATMENT
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola July 25, 2021
STORY AT-A-GLANCE
· Perhaps one of the greatest crimes in this whole pandemic is the refusal by reigning heath authorities to issue early treatment guidance. Instead, they’ve done everything possible to suppress remedies shown to work, whether it be corticosteroids, hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) with zinc, ivermectin, vitamin D or NAC
· According to Dr. Peter McCullough, 85% of COVID deaths could have been prevented had early treatment protocols been widely implemented rather than censored
· It appears the intense censoring and suppression of early treatments was a strategy to promote as much fear, suffering, hospitalization and death as possible in order to prepare the population to accept a new genre of gene transfer technologies on a mass scale
· The overwhelming drive to get a “needle in every arm” is such that health authorities are not even acknowledging the fact that those who have recovered from COVID-19 and many groups have no possibility of benefiting from the vaccine, including younger individuals, pregnant women, women of childbearing potential, and those with immunodeficiencies
· Despite FDA warnings for myocarditis with Pfizer and Moderna and cavernous venous thrombosis with Johnson & Johnson, the vaccine cabal keeps propaganda on full blast
TOP AMERICAN DOCTOR: COVID SHOTS ARE ‘OBSOLETE,’ DANGEROUS, MUST BE SHUT DOWN
The John-Henry Westen Show Published July 23, 2021
https://rumble.com/vk8cpw-top-american-doctor-covid-shots-are-obsolete-dangerous-must-be-shut-down.html
John-Henry speaks with Dr. Peter A. McCullough, one of the most qualified physicians on COVID-19 in the United States. They talk about the coronavirus vaccines and the censorship and bans of effective early treatments.
Dr. Peter A. McCullough , one of the most expert physicians on the planet, states that the mRNA and RNA COVID shots are ‘obsolete,’ dangerous, and must be shut down.
If you cannot watch the entire video, start at 27:00.
The four mRNA and RNA vaccines are relatively ineffective and highly dangerous.
These vaccines should never be given to under-18’s – All Risk and No Reward for young people.
These vaccines should never be given to woman who can still have children.
They should probably not be given to anyone under 65 or 70 years of age.
Early treatment with safe drugs like Ivermectin is much better than the toxic vaccines. Why is Ivermectin effectively banned in many Western countries?
I will not take a toxic mRNA or RNA vaccines, nor will my child. Some say they are “kill shots”. I believe them.
Clinical trials of Ivermectin have had to be abandoned for ethical reasons because whilst the control group were dying in great numbers, those treated with Ivermectin weren’t.
As for peer reviewed studies, the editor of the Lancet stated that up to 50% of medical trials are junk.
In other words, toss a coin.
Observational studies of Ivermectin are universally successful and even if there is some confounding factor, the drug exhibits very few, mild side effects.
Sick to death hearing about peer reviewed studies. They are utter bunk.
Can you point to a single clinical study of Ivermectin that was stopped for ethical reasons because too many people were dying?
Didier Raoult in Marseille didn’t start any placebo based study, as, as he said, his job is to heal people and pointed to hippocratical oath, but that was HCQ, not Ivermectin.
Can you? That’s your job. Disprove my hypothesis, or don’t you believe in science?
Sorry, HotScot, you made the claim, you should provide a link. Otherwise it’s just a gratuitous assertion.
Craig kelly published nearly 100 before being banned / de-platformed by facebook. Actually it happened in New Delhi and Indonesia. You want mRNA spike proteins running around your body for the next 15 years – enjoy!
We were told that these proteins would not flood the body and spread to other parts. But now I have read posts where they have turned up in livers, kidneys, spleens etc etc.
Patrick the latest study from Japan has shown after 48 hours the carrier for the vaccination ends up concentrated in the ovaries and the bone marrow. Which might explain the unnatural and heavy bleeding an unhealthy number of women have experienced . What will happen in the future -who knows? A pandemic of leukaemia and infertile women?
Dear God mate, I think we all hope you are wrong.
See Peter McCullough’s interview. The situation with the mRNA treatment (it’s not a “vaccine”) is unbelievably bad.
stands to basic reason
blood goes everywhere so do antibodies
bone marrow, too
It’s not a new drug, it’s only a new use of it.
Side effects and contra indications are well known and documentated.
Izaak
There were several. You should have no difficulty finding a few. If you were better informed on the topic before making broad statements you would not have to do so much catching up.
For the mechanism that allows a wide variety of drugs to have beneficial effects, see the videos at MedCram. What works and why they work is understood at the molecular level.
Hot Scot
You are spot on about the reliability of peer review studies.
They are far less reliable than journals and scientists would want to admit.
However, publishing research and getting funding requires these.
The problem is not that peer-reviewed placebo-controlled studies are unreliable. It’s that they take years. One doesn’t have years during a pandemic.
Doctors experiment with promising treatments during a pandemic, and successful ones spread. This is how it has always worked, and worked well.
It’s only now, with Covid-19, that physicians’ engineering approach to treatment has been suppressed and even criminalized.
Those responsible for the suppression and criminalization for use of HCQ and Ivermectin have blood on their hands. They have caused hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths.
Those forcing experimental mRNA treatments on human subjects are little Mengeles, every one of them. They deserve jail.
The other side to this sick story is that the virus jockeys (for lack of a better term) have been working on engineered bugs along with gene treatments for a very long time, way before February 2020. They have been applying for and receiving patents since 2002.
This is how it was known that effective treatments existed, and how these “vaccines” were rushed to market. All they had to do was figure out how to mass produce them.
Pat
If an article is peer reviewed and the reviewers names and details do not appear under the article – which is the case with various journals – there is no way to discredit them for approving shoddy articles.
Only in a few instances have I seen reviewers names attached along with some brief comments – both positive and negative. This should be standard and journals discredited when they rip off researchers and libraries (that are captive customers).
And that the CDC and WHO have NOT done such studies is very telling of their malicious nature.
Read the scientific papers and stop to lie.
You may have a look ant India, what do you think let drop the new infections ?
I can give you a simple recipe how to scientifically prove that the HCQ does not work:
I remember reading a study that I just described.
Trump Derangement Syndrome. It kills people.
Hippocratic Oath be damned.
The dose has to be based on the patients weight.
ahh, you are referring to the ever-ethical and dedicated to their patients and not one bit political people at the Veterans Administration. They have a large contingent of providers that don’t mind their patients dying as long as their government salary keeps coming in. (There are a few dedicated, ethical providers who routinely beat their heads against the wall of bureaucracy trying to do the right thing for their patients as well.) Thus I make sure to have insurance so I don’t need to rely on the VA.
That study was crap from start to finish. Killing all the virus by that point would not help the patient who is already suffering from an over-reactive immune system that is attacking the patients own lung tissue. (couldn’t remember how to spell Cytokine Storm so I wrote the description of it.) The dosing in several cases was very near the LD50 levels as well.
I don’t think it was the VA that was responsible for the bad report about HCQ. Rather, it was an incorrect interpretation of the study done by a second party. They completely misrepresented the VA study.
The early, anti-HCQ studies, which I wrote about >here< six months ago,with attendant criticisms, were mostly designed to fail by leaving out the D3 and zinc, or restricting to ‘clinical” treatment, mostly hospitalization, after the cytokine-storm began. It has been said that ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine are ionophores, and their main purpose is to allow cellular entrance to zinc so the immune system can do it’s natural work.
I have noted, here, that I take USP ivermectin (2 grams 1% in Propylene glycol/Glycerol formal) every three weeks. So far, so good.
Curious
Right on. They proceeded to try the same with ivermectin and … oops. It worked no matter what protocol they tried.
As COVID is not a lung disease, those who had cytokine storm damage did not find their lungs symptoms much improved – not unexpected. Closing the barn door after the horse has bolted doesn’t bring the horse back.
The silly trials with high dose HCQ and very sick patients were condemnable. Some licenses should have been pulled over those.
One of the beauties of ivermectin is that the overdose rate is extremely high, meaning you can give two or three times the correct dose without hurting the patient. My “patients” all had four legs, used ivermectin for decades to de-worm sheep, cattle, and horses. It is nearly idiot-proof and an excellent medication to use on the farm.
George, and don’t forget, leave zinc out of the HCQ program. Most all of the negative studies did one to all three of the basic failures you mentioned.
The ivermectin evidence is no longer ‘only’ anecdotal, albeit not yet RDBPC gold standard. See my reference below.
Why does everything have to be gold standard? The ‘vaccinations’ most certainly are not.
Izaak, Your comment is 100% incorrect. Have you looked at any of the positive of the Ivermectin data?
Ivermectin works or it does not. Science is repeatable. When ‘science’ appears to not be repeatable… people with covid agendas are generating fake studies to block a life saving drug.
Why are people generating fake ‘science’ studies to block the Ivermectin as an early treatment for covid or as a covid prophylactic? Ivermectin stops covid from replicating. It cannot help half dead covid patients. It must be given as soon as symptoms appear.
Ivermectin is safe to use in humans. Ivermectin in in-vitro tests binds to the covid spike and stops the covid virus from infecting cells.
Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19
https://assets-global.website-files.com/606d3dece4ec3c3866cc798a/609be2d665a92ea5cf61191f_Review_of_the_Emerging_Evidence_Demonstrating_the.4%20(2).pdf
In 4 of the studies, ivermectin was identified as having the highest or among the highest of binding affinities to spike protein S1 binding domains of SARS-CoV-2 among hundreds of molecules collectively examined, with ivermectin not being the particular focus of study in 4 of these studies.27
This is the same mechanism by which viral antibodies, in particular, those generated by the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines contain the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
A Canadian start-up company, MVMD, has an injectable form of Ivermectin which invitro tests have shown starts to reduce covid viral count in 20 minutes and clears all virus within 48 hours.
Ivermectin Soluble MVMD
https://www.bigmarker.com/sagacitycm/Mountain-Valley-MD?bmid=8677af510421
MOUNTAIN VALLEY MD RECEIVES SUCCESSFUL RESULTS FROM BSL-4 COVID-19 CLEARANCE TRIAL ON THREE VARIANTS TESTED WITH IVECTOSOL™ TORONTO, ON – May 18, 2021 – Mountain Valley MD Holdings Inc. (the “Company” or “MVMD”) (CSE: MVMD) (FRA:20MP) is pleased to announce it has received its thirdparty Bio Safety Level 4 (“BSL-4”) lab study results from its recent COVID-19 viral clearance study conducted with its solubilized Ivermectin technology – Ivectosol™.
He doesn’t care about what is or isn’t true—his objective is parroting the official party lies.
Ivermectin is safe to use in humans. Ivermectin in in-vitro tests binds to the covid spike and stops the covid virus from infecting cells.
It is my understanding that Ivermectin binds to the ACE2 receptors, which are the binding sites that the spike protein attaches to to enter cells. Ivermectin blocks Spike Protein from binding to ACE2 receptors.
This stops viral replication in cells.
SSHhhh. Must not speak of such.
If I have scabies I can get a prescription for Ivermectin.
If I have COVID-19 I cannot.
(Aside in hushed voice: I have on hand enough Ivermectin to treat a horse.)
Accidental science: Nursing homes in France and the US that had scabies outbreaks treated ALL residents and care givers with IVERMECTIN. No Covid deaths. Anecdotal????
Which raises the troubling question: Is it the Ivemectin or the scabies that cures covid?
(Furled brow)
Izaac, don’t be obtuse. What goes for experiments (testing) in climate science is model runs missing unknown numbers of agents affecting climate followed by fudging to hindcast the temperature record. The models themselves have proven without skill in forecasting anything.
Giving invermectin to 100s of thousands of patients and cutting the death rate by 80% is a hands on experiment. In addition it is a no-regrets test.
The climate cure costs a couple of hundred trillion, mass death to the poor from poverty (few trillion spent has a notable death toll already as people choose between heating and food) based on “testing” that has never, not one time, even by chance, delivered a useful forecast. It’s like rolling dice with hundreds of facets. It seems designed to be a huge regret medicine.
I’m sure you read the study out of the U of Oregon here today (done by wokies in the sociology department) that showed “liberals” accepted unreservedly the view of authorities and conservatives showed natural scepticism, much in line with that expected in good science! I note you absented yourself from that post. Anyway, you don’t have to be fast on your feet given the detailed talking points your colleagues provide.
How many people died in the double blind study of the vaccine?
In this regard, a double blind study is much like assigning half of a rifle squad to “duck” if they hear gun fire, the other half to not duck. Purpose, to see if gunfire kills. Ivermectin >does not< kill, it helps.
Bingo
As a retired Chartered Structural Engineer, I re-state, that “anecdotal” evidence is important when carrying out a structural survey on a property, but it is “observational” evidence coupled up with physical opening up works (where practical) that is more important!!! Anecdotal evidence can be misleading, “he said/she said” etc!!!
There are a lot of ICU doctors around the world who would disagree with you. https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2021/07/19/world-ivermectin-day/
“If I were to claim that climate change is well supported by anecdotal evidence you would not doubt be shouting from the rooftops that that was rubbish and not science.”
First, I assume when you say ‘climate change’ that you are referring to man-made climate change. Secondly, I would point out that there is no anecdotal evidence of significant man-made climate change, so your statement would be a lie.
On the other hand, the lack of clinical trials on the so-called vaccines means there is no evidence that they are effective either. At least we know that Ivermectin and HCQ are as safe as, or safer than aspirin, while the jabs have produced more adverse reactions in a short time, than all vaccines that have come before.
Science is a process of collecting information and following that information to a logical conclusion. It is not a process of proclamations from authorities. Right now, we are collecting information. So far, the data is indicating that the jabs do little to stop the spread of the illness and may be causing tremendous harm. Time will tell.
“First, I assume when you say ‘climate change’ that you are referring to man-made climate change.”
I think that is what he is talking about.
Alarmists are a little loose with the language sometimes. They need skeptics to help them out with their descriptions and give the full picture.
DR Tess Lawrie would disagree
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Theresa-Lawrie
For the latest on the subject go to flccc.net or https://covid19criticalcare.com/
To keep your options open….
Find a pharmacist in India that takes paypal
To understand the big picture…
Harvard is a tax exempt hedge fund mascarading as a university (plus many others)
They own big pharma
All their political influence drives the media
The FDA/CDC/NIH does their bidding
I
“mascarading”
wow.
Gives itself a black eye.
Finding an Indian business that accepts PayPal is easier said than done in my experience.
There is also the big risk of not getting what you expected. Indians are as skilled at ‘counterfeiting’ drugs as anyone else.
If worried ask for picture of the delivery package front and back clearly showing the manufacture including date/lot/inspection codes. Make sure they have a PayPal business account so you know who they really are.
You will not get something like that from a china/amazon/eBay source
here you go. They ship worldwide
https://www.ziverdokit.store/product-page/prevention-kit
Ivermectin is available from Agri-supply companies, such as Jeffers in the USA,and is very cheap. It comes in a liquid or paste, depending on desired application. The paste is usually sold in one- or two-dose tubes for horses. Jeffers sells their own brand ivermectin paste dewormer for horses, $4.99/tube. This is enough for a thousand pound horse. Simply do a little math to figure out the appropriate dose for a 50-Kilo human.
https://www.jefferspet.com/products/jeffers-ivermectin?via=5338848b9fa2600f00000196%2F533884929fa2600f00000221%2F533884949fa2600f00000257
Ivermectin is available from Agri-supply companies
And out of stock almost everywhere I’ve seen
– but surprisingly not at that link…
When I raised livestock, Jeffers was my favorite go-to for supplies and meds because they ship really fast. If they have stock, as it said on their website, they have it. Anyway, worth trying.
“Now, to create a market for our sh!t, we have to fake a pandemic!”
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/07/22/google-censorship-due-to-vaccine-investment.aspx
Guess Who Developed the Spike Proteins Used in COVID Vaccines
July 21, 2021
In a stunning analysis of mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccine candidates, patent applications and intellectual property claims, two researchers have discovered that the National Institutes of Health developed the stabilized version of the spike protein used in the vaccines.
Moderna, CureVAc, Pfizer and BioNTech all disclosed that their mRNA vaccine candidates employ the NIH’s protein. Not only that, the researchers said, “It is also important to note that the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Moderna entered into an agreement in 2019 to co-develop coronavirus vaccines; however, this was before the identification and spread of SARS-CoV-2.”
To repeat: Moderna and the NIH had an agreement to develop coronavirus vaccines BEFORE the identification and spread of SARS-CoV-2. “The NIH also has four other provisional patent applications on a novel coronavirus vaccine as disclosed in a recent publication,” the researchers added.
Other findings show that the scientists have been studying mRNA as a novel therapeutic for decades, and that the NIH’s patents are connected to more than a dozen vaccine developers, either directly or through sublicensing. The links are depicted on a graph in the journal Nature Biotechnology.
SOURCE: Nature Biotechnology May 12, 2021
Allan,
As you know, I haunt a few forums, although I have just deleted my Facebook Account. I’ll no longer encourage that cancel culture mob. As someone recently put it, “It’s not cancel culture, it’s effing communism.
Whilst there is no definitive proof that Covid-19 isn’t a threat to humanity, and that ‘vaccines’ are harmful, few people seem to understand the aggregation of evidence.
We look at the elderly nature of people dying, the almost complete lack of children dying and there is evidence there to suggest elderly people with underlying conditions are at risk, not children. Science is one thing but there comes a point at which, when it’s slapping you in the face, you must sit up and take notice.
In the same way, we as individuals should be able to decide on our own course of action in the face of a ‘novel’ viral pandemic when no one knows what the solution is.
I requested some prescription only pain killers because of me recent hip surgery. I was refused. A consultation with my Doctor is required, despite me having read all the contra indication information of the drug I want.
But were I to blindly stumble along to have a potentially life altering, experimental Covid-19 ‘vaccine’, I could have it.
Volunteer for a clinical drug trial and we would all be put through:
I’d be interested to understand if anyone has been subject to a single one of those conditions, far less them all, in this international trial of Covid-19 drugs. If many of us haven’t, any conclusions are invalid. And I don’t care if separate trials were run in parallel, they are also invalid.
The big one is, of course, has anyone taking the vaccination been informed they might be in a control group. I suspect the ethical questions around that one are very far reaching.
Hi HotScot my friend – I agree.
You can’t get Ivermectin here in Canada but your 12-year-old is being told by some Provincial Chief Medical Officers that they can take the Covid-19 injection WITHOUT parental permission, and kids are being bribed with ice cream cones in Toronto to take the shot. This is corrupt, criminal misconduct.
Best, Allan
Also, the “vaccine” trials now have no control groups, as the control subjects have nearly all been subjected to the real jab. That terminates the trial, as without a control, the medium to long term outcome can no longer be assessed. As the “vaccines” have not, and are now unlikely to ever complete their trials, they should be withdrawn from use as it would be unethical to allow use a treatment that can no longer successfully complete a trial.
Patents for this stuff go back to 2002.
Dr David Martin presents extensive evidence to support these claims. This is not a theory; these are well documented facts.
Don’t take the jab! It’s a bioweapon! Insist on justice.
The justice system is failing us; and refusing to prosecute these mass murderers. Crime is running unchecked.
Plus “countless physicians have been willfully participating in the homicide of humanity”
https://rumble.com/vk2bya-exclusive-dr.-david-martin-just-ended-covid-fauci-doj-politicians-in-one-in.html
PATENTS PROVE SARS-COV-2 IS A MANUFACTURED VIRUS
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola July 24, 2021
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/07/24/patents-prove-sars-cov-2-is-a-manufactured-virus.aspx
STORY AT-A-GLANCE
· Hundreds of patents show SARS-CoV-2 is a manmade virus that has been tinkered with for decades. Much of the research was funded by the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) under the direction of Dr. Anthony Fauci, and may have been an outgrowth of attempts to develop an HIV vaccine
· In 1999, Fauci funded research at University of North Carolina Chapel Hill to create “an infectious replication-defective coronavirus” specifically targeted for human lung epithelium. This appears to be the virus that became known as SARS-CoV
· U.S. Patent 7279327 shows we knew the ACE receptor, the ACE2 binding domain, the S-1 spike protein, and other elements of SARS-CoV-2 were engineered and could be synthetically modified using gene sequencing technologies
· The CDC holds patents to a SARS coronavirus that is 89% to 99% identical to the sequence identified as SARS-CoV-2, as well as the PCR test to diagnose it
· 120 patents detail supposed “unique” features of SARS-CoV-2: the polybasic cleavage site, the spike protein and the ACE2 binding, proving it’s not a novel virus at all
In a January 2021 lecture, Jonathan Latham, Ph.D., introduced the term “the pandemic virus industrial complex,” to describe the academic, military and commercial complexes that are driving the pandemic agenda and obscuring facts that indicate SARS-CoV-2 is a manmade virus.
In the video above, David E. Martin, Ph.D., introduces shocking evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is indeed a manmade bioweapon, and has been in the works for decades. Much of this research was funded by none other than the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) under the direction of Dr. Anthony Fauci.
Pandemic virus industrial complex indeed! You do not want to miss this bombshell interview, conducted by Reiner Fuellmich,1 founding member of the German Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee2,
2021-07-23
COVID-19: PREMEDITATED MASS MURDER BY FAUCI, GATES, AND OTHERS.
Anthony Fauci, Bill Gates and their accomplices colluded to create, price fix, and market this “Pandemic”.
Hi Allan,
Dr David Martin presents extensive evidence to support these claims. This is not a theory; these are well documented facts.
Don’t take the jab! It’s a bioweapon! Insist on justice.
The justice system is failing us; and refusing to prosecute these mass murderers. Crime is running unchecked.
Plus “countless physicians have been willfully participating in the homicide of humanity”
https://rumble.com/vk2bya-exclusive-dr.-david-martin-just-ended-covid-fauci-doj-politicians-in-one-in.html
Kind regards,
-The Dr Mark Trozzi Team
They removed the link.
https://trialsitenews.com/conflict-of-interest-in-who-recommendation-against-ivermectin/
“Now, to create a market for our sh!t, we have to fake a pandemic!”
Here is the evidence:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gvXnVB1U6z3b/
Epidemiologist Dr. Paul E. Alexander published this excellent article in March 2021.
Note that two non-experts in epidemiology, Willis Eschenbach and I, independently made the same correct calls about the Covid-10 lockdowns one year earlier in March 2020, as follows. These correct calls were not that difficult, and merely required quality data on the relative risk of different population age groups, and ample common sense.
By now it is apparent that the almost-universally dystopian “lockdowns-and-distancing” approach was planned in advance, and was a deliberate strategy to harm our economies and our society. It is simply not credible that so many governments all over the world could all be so consistently wrong for so long. Furthermore, the ”Cancel Culture” that vilified anyone who spoke out against these destructive was also organized and effective.
The collaboration of the mainstream media including the tech media in a concerted dis-information campaign to incite needless fear about Covid-19 , a relatively mild flu except for the very elderly and infirm, is further evidence that the Covid lockdowns wee a conspiracy of global extent. The Covid-19 lockdowns, along with Global Warming alarmism, were the greatest and most costly frauds in human history.
The objective of these global frauds is to enact a Marxist dictatorship in the Chinese Communist Party model called the Great Reset, with a few Princes at the top, looking down at all the poor peasants. Once this dystopian conspiracy is defeated, those responsible must be tried and imprisoned for their attempts to destroy our democracies and our freedoms.
Regards, Allan MacRae in Calgary
THE BRUTAL ATTACK ON SCIENTIFIC DISSENT
Dr. Paul E. Alexander, March 9, 2021
https://www.aier.org/article/the-brutal-attack-on-scientific-dissent/
[excerpt]
The Covid-19 pandemic has been catastrophic and devastating for those who have succumbed to it. The important issue for us societally and globally is that the risk group is defined and we know much better in March 2021 how to target and manage a response. March 2021 is not February 2020.
Moreover, the benefits of the governmental actions – lockdowns – have been overly overstated and inflated while the harms have been devastating. Those include harms to our children, the poorer children and minority children, undiagnosed and untreated diseases, excess mortality in years to come from the lockdowns, the escalating suicide and drug overdoses from the lockdowns, the crushing domestic abuse and child abuse, sexual abuse of our children, the massive psychological harms, lost jobs and closed businesses, and the far-reaching catastrophic impact on women and poorer children.
Senior pandemic experts have written extensively on why such measures are not to be used in a pandemic and why they never advocated for these punitive actions even when they were considering epidemics and pandemics with greater lethality. They understood the ramifications and sadly, we as societies are now left to pick up the pieces but with no end in sight to these restrictive crushing, often unscientific, unsound, and illogical mandates.
Sadly, as part of the responding, governments are now faced with considering setting laws and also enhancing existing ones that would protect academic freedom and hold accountable those who threaten academic freedom by their reactions, reactions that are too often threatening and slanderous to contrarian and skeptical viewpoints of these questionable and often failed edicts and mandates. Globally we have seen a sharp rise in verbal and social media online attacks on persons who hold contrarian views on Covid-19 societal lockdown policies that have been implemented.
What are these contrarians guilty of? Their guilt stems from voicing well-founded doubts and reservations about the value and effectiveness of societal lockdowns and other governmental policies as a Covid-19 response. Their crime is that they wish to consider both the harms of the virus and the totality of the impact of the policies and mandates. A consideration of the impact of the policies in an objective manner. A much broader view than simply the basic science and lethality of the pathogen. These contrarians, some as policy experts with a medical and research scientist background, are arguing against the utility and need for policies and mandates that seem arbitrary, have been very destructive on societies, and are essentially unsound and wholly unscientific.
Moreover, if you are considered a conservative politically (whether you are or not), then you are in double jeopardy and subject to a further depth of hostility and acrimony, often by academic peers. What has become clear is that across the board, politics has invaded science and politics has been a rate limiting step in Covid-19 responding by governments, public health systems, and medical experts. Very serious far-reaching decisions are being made that are altering societal structure and function, and it is politics that is underpinning the decision-making, and not the science. What is incredible is that those who oppose and question the societal restrictions are being blamed for the failures of these policies that were broadly implemented. Not the failed policy itself, just the act of questioning it.
The invidious, vicious, malicious, and brutal career altering attacks are against those who dare to speak out and voice their often ‘expert’ opinions against Covid-19 orthodoxies, and originate from persons (often those in the research medical community) who disagree with a contrarian’s position on Covid-19 public health policies. There is a punishing terrorisation, intimidation and maligning that arises from the vicious attacks on contrarian or skeptical academics, that often results in tremendous and crushing losses to the contrarian’s personal safety, welfare, and livelihood. There is this ‘cancel culture mob mentality’ that ensues, and the threats and harassment are very troubling, even when the skeptical academic(s) lays out their view based on actual data, evidence, and science.
Paul E. Alexander received his bachelor’s degree in epidemiology from McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, a master’s degree from Oxford University, and a PhD from McMaster University’s Department of Health Research Methods, Evidence, and Impact.
There has been 5 deaths from COVID-19 and 5 deaths from the vaccine so far this year. No figures on people who have had limbs amputated due to blood clots. About 350 deaths from blood clots not attributed to the vaccine (Source TGA). 800+ deaths last year were directly attributed to COVID-19 infections while in hotel quarantine in Melbourne.
There have been a total of 915 deaths from COVID-19, most (910) were in 2020. That’s quite a bit less than the 200,000+ deaths as was predicted by Prof. Neil “I can’t keep my pants on while in lockdown” Ferguson of The Imperial College London.
We have unelected health officials advising Govn’t in NSW to continue with lockdowns.
Chant is supposed to be a Dr. but I can’t find any reference to that. I found that Chant did a medical administration course in 1987 and masters in Public Health in 1995. Nothing studied for 26 years since as far as I can tell. Chant has not worked in the health industry at all as far as I can tell.
Hazzard is an ex-lawyer and an ex-teacher. No medical training what so ever.
There is a talk of mandatory vaccinations of everyone and “vaccine passports”. We’re in full lockdown here in Sydney and people are panic buying…toilet paper, again!
Australia, the lucky country.
Neil Ferguson predicted 500,000 deaths in the UK.
Australia has some very serious problems to look forward to assuming Covid deaths remain as well controlled as they are.
When, and if, vaccine deaths become a feature, there will be all hell to pay.
Aus. is perhaps the petri dish of political dissent over Covid in the coming years.
Early indications are that those vaccinated can still contract Covid but they are asymptomatic or very mild symptoms. Those vaccinated can still spread the virus.
To balance that, a group of 30 people in NSW were all close contacts at a gathering. 24 of those people contracted the virus and 6 did not. Only 6 were vaccinated and they were the ones without Covid.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-28/vaccinated-attendees-west-hoxton-birthday-party-avoid-covid-19/100249612
Not clinical test but good odds that vaccination is highly effective in preventing spread as well as reducing death rate.
NSW have not yet got serious with lockdowns. When they have nighttime curfews and travel restrictions with every car on the streets during the curfew being investigated by police, then you know they are serious about infection control.
How do they know that the injected were negative? These PCR tests are totally useless for injected people. Moreover, it seems they also use a different lesser cycle count for injected than for non-injected. Like they said, with the cycle count they use for non-injected, you can find covid in a sandwich.
“Neil Ferguson predicted 500,000 deaths in the UK.”
Yes he did – under specific circumstance WITHOUT mitigation ….
The 500,000 figure appears in a report produced by the Imperial College Covid-19 response team in March 2020, led by Professor Ferguson.
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/mrc-gida/2020-03-16-COVID19-Report-9.pdf
“Results
In the (unlikely) absence of any control measures or spontaneous changes in individual behaviour, we
would expect a peak in mortality (daily deaths) to occur after approximately 3 months (Figure 1A). In
such scenarios, given an estimated R0 of 2.4, we predict 81% of the GB and US populations would be
infected over the course of the epidemic. Epidemic timings are approximate given the limitations of
surveillance data in both countries: The epidemic is predicted to be broader in the US than in GB and
to peak slightly later. This is due to the larger geographic scale of the US, resulting in more distinct
localised epidemics across states (Figure 1B) than seen across GB. The higher peak in mortality in GB
is due to the smaller size of the country and its older population compared with the US. In total, in an
unmitigated epidemic, we would predict approximately 510,000 deaths in GB and 2.2 million in the
US, not accounting for the potential negative effects of health systems being overwhelmed on
mortality.
It’s introduction of communism having nothing whatsoever to do with the virus.
The polls/elections in Australia for State Premiers correlate inversely with the number of Covid deaths in each state as well as the length of lockdowns.
WA just isolated the State and only permitted infected crew from ships into State hospitals if they were on death’s door. No community spread. The Premier had a landslide election win with his party destroying the opposition earlier this year.
Likewise QLD was fast to isolate the State and avoided significant community spread. Existing government returned with increased majority in 2020.
Dan in Victoria is still premier. The opposition is ineffective. Victoria is back in lock down for the fifth time. Borders are now shut to NSW. Polling indicates 70% of Victorians support the current lockdowns despite many small businesses suffering financially.
accepting Taiwan is indicative of good Covid controls, then Delta strain will be a serious problem for NSW and it would not surprise me to see the State in lockdown until vaccinations are widespread – no sooner than October. Gladys will look fragile if that occurs.
Victoria learned a hard lesson about the skepticism of new immigrants on health controls. The health officials did not get on top of the situation until religious leaders were fronted face-to-face and given the facts on deaths. By then a lot of older people in their communities were in hospital so it was not a hard sell. In Victoria in 2020, there were two notable cohorts in hospitals – those aged over 70 with other health issues usually contracting the virus in aged care and mostly older people (+50s) of a certain a religious faith; recent immigrants both middle east and Central Africa. NSW is now facing similar issues with most cases occurring in areas housing a high proportion of first generation immigrants.
NSW still have known source and unknown climbing. The controls are only proven effective when the unknown sources are falling each day.
No one wants to claim ownership of the curfews introduced in Victoria in 2020 but there is no doubt they were an extremely effective Covid control. There were so few cars out at night that police could stop every car and check if the driver had a valid work permit.
Your prior comments do not consider that leaky vaccines are well known to be extremely unadvisable in a pandemic, as they are very likely to create vaccine resistant mutations.
Every single vaccinated individual is a mutation experiment in process. The delta variant is very possibly a vaccine induced variant
Also there are many areas where the percentage of vaccinated infected and hospitalized, is as high and higher then percentage of unvaccinated infected and hospitalized. ( This is particularly true in areas where prior exposure to the wuflu was widespread.). This is possible evidence that areas of natural heard immunity are as effectively immune, or more immune then the jabbed.
As exposed and asymptomatic infected vaccinated are often no longer tracked, and vaccinated are less often tested in some areas, and tracking to get accurate numbers is no longer done, distortions in the numbers reported are certain.
Yet the harms reported are growing and accelerating, despite insider reports of hidden negative and fatal adverse reactions. Although now, the powers that be are attempting large cuts in past reported numbers. Past CDC and WHO behaviors have destroyed the credibility of their assertions.
Right to try?
The world has the right to try Covid-19 vaccines, if they dare.
I respect anyone who cares to accept an experimental drug, never before used on humans other than in some isolated terminal cancer cases as a last ditch effort, I just won’t be one of them.
All I ask is that my respect for them is reciprocated.
However, Ivermectin has an extraordinary success rate with early onset Covid-19. It seems it entirely eradicates Covid-19 with three tablets administered over five days, costing less than $1 US. It also seems to eradicate the ‘long covid’ effects.
It’s success rate under those conditions has been reported as 86%, with a 100% response (sorry, not medicaly expressed but I hope you get the gist).
It’s a 40 year old, Nobel winning drug available over the counter in many developing nations to treat human parasitic conditions (no, it can’t deal with politicians) including River Blindness, a parasitic worm that destroys the optic nerve. It exhibits very few side effects.
What does that say for the contempt for western nations held by their political and medical elite that, whilst relatively uneducated Africans are allowed to make their own decisions about their health, we’re not!
It’s also interesting to note that almost every morsel of beef, lamb/mutton and pork consumed in the western world over the last 30 years has probably been treated with Ivomec (The Merck trading name for Ivermectin) or marketing derivative thereof, to eradicate parasitic intestinal worms, amongst other growth inhibiting parasites.
I would doubt there’s a cattle/swine farmer/rancher or horse owner who hasn’t used Ivermectin, more usually available as a pour on (you literally pour it along the spine of beasts) but also as a bolus.
Unlike antibiotics routinely given to animals, I can’t recall having seen a single article condemning it as harmful to the humans who consume meat treated with it.
But somehow, despite this amazing record of human and animal safety, I can’t go out and buy it to at least try if my family or I become infected with Covid-19. I’m not just compelled, but coerced to accept an experimental ‘vaccine’ instead.
Talk about government restrictive influences on our lives. I could say more but I don’t want to upset people.
All of my workmates have had the jab, not sure which one, but I respect their choice. However, I am not respected by them for my choice not to have the jab. In fact I am criticised and pressured in to having the jab because they don’t want to work with someone unvaccinated. I won’t be pressured.
Madness!
I’m being hounded by my mother over this vaccine stuff. It’s entirely out of character for her.
Just lie to your MIL. She won’t know the difference.
They are immune to filthy unvaccinated swine like us.
WTF are they worried about?
Vaccines work, don’t they?
Just lie and tell them you had the shot. You’ll have the last laugh.
‘CAN’T DO IT’: INCREASING NUMBER OF NFL STARS SPEAK OUT AGAINST COVID-19 VACCINE POLICY
By Jack Phillips July 23, 2021
https://www.theepochtimes.com/cant-do-it-increasing-number-of-nfl-stars-speak-out-against-covid-19-vaccine-mandate_3915281.html
Here is my fearless prediction:
A percentage of NFL players who get the Covid-19 injections will be so adversely affected that they will no longer be competitive and will be cut by their teams.
These men are at the peak of their health and training and it will become obvious when the adverse effects of the injections cause a measurable decline in their performance.
A rational approach for these men to protect their careers would be to NOT take the injections, but to take a preventative daily dose of Ivermectin, Zinc, Vitamin D3 etc until the Covid crisis is fully over. Is anyone going to compensate them if their careers are shortened by the Covid injections?
This is nonsense that will get people killed. The COVID 19 vaccines are not experimental but well tested, highly effective, and have been administered to millions of people worldwide with no evidence of significant likelihood of serious side-effects. There is some elevated risk of clotting but it is for example similar to risks from taking the contraceptive pill which is available over the counter in many countries.
Repeating false claims about vaccines results in the deaths of thousands of people every year.
Lies on all counts (except risk from BC pills).
https://twitter.com/bkFreedomForAll
MRNA is a gene therapy not a vaccine. More people have died from the MRNA jab than from all the real vaccines, combined for the last 22 years.
It would be a wise choice to use this “emergency” to temporarily approve Ivermectin for treatment of the CCP virus.
“MRNA is a gene therapy not a vaccine. More people have died from the MRNA jab than from all the real vaccines, combined for the last 22 years.”
Complete and utter bullshite hogwash. You said it now back it up with verifiable evidence.
It’s actually 30 years. More deaths reported to VAERS for the covid vexxines than for all vaccines combined for the last 30 years. You can verify this yourself on VAERS.
Pictures are always nice
These are deaths per year. you need deaths per injection. I would be surprised if there were not a phenomenal increase in total injections with covid vaccines
You were the one who told us to drink bleach. You are a known liar.
So nothing to worry about, just write-off the spike as no big deal.
Think before you type. There are many many vaccines. More then 50 percent of the population gets a Flu vaccines alone each year. This is not considering all the other vaccines. There are more then 10 vaccines that most people have had.
A reasonable WAG is that the jab is less then 10 percent of total vaccines over the time period.
Hey, Simon the Simpleton!
Please explain the graph that icisil was kind enough to post!
That’s from the VAERS data at the CDC website; so maybe they are in on the conspiracy, too!
CNN-Simon shows up to recite the party narrative.
Simple Simon.
Here is a nice reference site that has a summary of all the Ivermectin trials. A real time listing and analysis of the trials. Good analysis criticizing the different study designs, many peer reviewed, many randomized trials. The media campaign against Ivermectin is massive. This is real data.
https://ivmmeta.com/
67% benefit in randomized clinical trials for early treatment, look at the meta-analysis tab.
16000 patients in the RCT and peer-reviewed studies!
The conclusion on the meta-analysis page is
“Conclusion
Ivermectin is an effective treatment for COVID-19. The probability that an ineffective treatment generated results as positive as the 60 studies to date is estimated to be 1 in 193 billion (p = 0.0000000000052). As expected for an effective treatment, early treatment is more successful, with an estimated reduction of 74% in the effect measured using random effects meta-analysis (RR 0.26 [0.16-0.43]). 64% and 96% lower mortality is observed for early treatment and prophylaxis (RR 0.36 [0.15-0.85] and 0.04 [0.00-0.59]). Statistically significant improvements are seen for mortality, ventilation, hospitalization, cases, and viral clearance. The consistency of positive results across a wide variety of heterogeneous studies is remarkable, with 92% of the 60 studies reporting positive effects (26 statistically significant in isolation).
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I worked with Merial Animal Health as the Director of their UK communications centre in the early 2000’s for Ivomec.
I spoke with several scientists who were pushing the limits of the drug. To a man/woman they told me they were barely scratching the surface of what Ivermectin can do for the human race.
67% benefit is still a lot smaller than the 90+% benefit from the vaccines. And vaccines have been tried on much larger sample sizes.
Izaak,
The genetic altering compounds you are referring to are not even close to 90% effective! You’ve fallen for another line of BS, while the countries with the highest “vaccination” rates are experiencing spikes in the number of new cases!
There is evidence now accumulating that these genetic modifying jabs are actually making some people MORE susceptible to the ChiCom virus and damaging the body’s natural immune system! Congratulations on being used in a massive medical experiment with unknown long term effects!
Quote:”There is evidence now accumulating that these genetic modifying jabs are actually making some people MORE susceptible to the ChiCom virus”
and here it is – in the midst of a UK (mini) heatwave = warm weather that the virus supposedly hates
BBC Headline:”More than 600,000 people told to isolate by NHS Covid-19 app”
Quote:”Data shows 618,903 alerts were sent – a 17% rise from the previous week.”
Also..
BBC Headline:”Child winter respiratory illness on rise in summer”
While you’re at the Beeb, look out for:
If that 2nd quote doesn’t set your alarm bell ringing, what would?
Those are the very peeps who surely Shirley should isolate
While they rave about how high UK vaccination rates are……
Something ‘less than fragrant’ is going on here…..
There are 2 ways to look at ecffectivity,
relative and absolute.
The absolute is about 1% only…
If you don’t think about side effects and unknown effects after a year or two or more .
Izaak,
There is a big difference.
The vaccine has no long term testing to its safety. Ten thousand in the USA have died from the vaccine, more than all other vaccines combined. You have to subject millions to a lightly tested new technology to save a life.
In contrast, Ivermectin is only given to those who are sick. And it has been tested for decades in millions, so it is known to be safe.
See the difference, one is tested, and only given to those who need it. The vaccine has no long term testing, and is being given to millions of people including young people who have very little risk of COVID bad outcomes.
Izaak,
There is a big difference.
The vaccines are lacking the phase 3 long term safety studies. They are given to millions to save one life. But there are big side effects, >10,000 deaths in the VAERS database, more than all other vaccines combined.
In contrast, Ivermectin is only given to people that need it to treat them. It is one of the safest drugs, having been around for decades, given hundreds of millions of doses.
Ivermectin and other treatments are being suppressed for political reasons. If there are effective treatments, the emergency authorizations for the vaccines could not be pushed through.
Just to be clear: you would prefer 0% effective (i.e. do nothing) to 67% effective?
Because it is still a trial, they have to also inject some people with saline. I would not be surprised that almost all people in power got saline instead of mRNA shots. How come none of them actually get sick or even a headache from their shot?
I didn’t get sick or a headache from my Pfizer shots.
I suggest that the same facts are true in the USA and Europe – Lockdowns killed more people under 65 than COVID-19.
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We told you so – way back on 21March2020 – NO LOCKDOWNS. And we were correct!
21March2020 – Willis Eschenbach
The economic damage from the current insane “shelter-in-place” regulations designed to thwart the coronavirus is going to be huge—lost jobs, shuttered businesses, economic downturn, stock market losses. This doesn’t count the personal cost in things like increased suicides and domestic and other violence.
21March2020 – Allan MacRae
LET’S CONSIDER AN ALTERNATIVE APPROACH:
Isolate people over sixty-five and those with poor immune systems and return to business-as-usual for people under sixty-five.
This will allow “herd immunity” to develop much sooner and older people will thus be more protected AND THE ECONOMY WON’T CRASH.
22March2020 – Allan MacRae
This full-lockdown scenario is especially hurting service sector businesses and their minimum-wage employees – young people are telling me they are “financially under the bus”. The young are being destroyed to protect us over-65’s. A far better solution is to get them back to work and let us oldies keep our distance, and get “herd immunity” established ASAP – in months not years. Then we will all be safe again.
Regards, Allan MacRae in Calgary
Lockdowns killed more Canadians under 65 than COVID-19: Statscan
By Harrison Faulkner
July 18, 2021
https://tnc.news/2021/07/18/lockdowns-killed-more-canadians-under-65-than-covid-19-statscan/
The consequences of government-enforced lockdowns killed more Canadians under the age of 65 than the COVID-19 virus itself, according to a report by Statistics Canada.
Effective Covid controls have a dramatic reduction in Covid deaths. The evidence on that is overwhelming. Most people would reasonably expect certain downside from some of the Covid controls. Although there were some unexpected upside such as reduction in violent crime, fewer road deaths and fewer hospital admissions from drug overdose and street fights.
Australia has so far had effective Covid controls. The mortality rate in Australia from April 2020 to November 2020 was below the average and often by more than the 95% bound.
https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/measuring-excess-mortality-victoria-during-covid-19-pandemic
The current community spread in NSW is simply putting massive pressure on the Federal Government to give NSW priority in supply of vaccinations. Australia’s rate of vaccination has been quite low because there has been so few Covid hospitalisations.
Victoria provides a case study in effective Covid controls once there is community spread-
The most effective control is simply to close borders to all outsiders as was done in Western Australia to protect the high value iron ore export industry. Zero community Covid cases through 2020.
In the USA excess deaths over average for 2020 was 572k. That suggests Covid controls were only marginally effective. Recorded Covid death rate in the USA to date is 1.8% so there would have been many more deaths if there were no controls.
Trying to make a case about controls being ineffective from data where controls were applied is a fools errand. No country had zero Covid controls. Hence there is no effective reference.
Victoria, Australia probably provides the best case study of the effectiveness of the range of controls. It took a long time to realise that health officials needed to speak directly to religious leaders of recent immigrants to overcome their skepticism of the Covid restrictions. This highly regarded footballer was influential in his community:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCkdtRiB-gZ/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=08477b15-b25f-41da-b74e-50646106fcce
The video was shown across the Victorian news media.
Wow, CCP in Aus.
No wonder you approve!
But then again, the USA threw off the King, Aus. still is a Monarchy with a constitution that does not have a Bill of Rights.
Since you are a true believer, you are happy to have your movement restricted to 5 K and 2 hours. If I had my way, anyone who supported this crap would be held to these restrictions for the rest of their lives. if their current location had everything they wanted, beach, recreational areas. etc. I would require they to relocate to the outback a minimum of 5 K from the nearest town. They can order their food dropped off at the property line, not allowed to come within 100 YARDS of
the delivery person.
What a woke joke you are.
Rick – everything you say can ONLY be true if you lock down BEFORE there is a significant number of Covid-19 cases in your area.
That may have worked for Australia, but was far too LATE for the USA, Canada, Europe and most of the rest of the world. The horse had already left the barn.
Been following this. HCQ was objected to because Trump mentioned it and the efficacy data were a bit ambivalent.
Ivermectin was the subject a new paper giving a meta analysis of 15 papers in the American Journal of Therapeutics, July-August 2021. To quote the conclusions:
Its low cost is why pharma would rather make $billions off vaccines. But given vaccine breakthroughs (Delta variant) plus low vaccination rates in many places, having a low cost therapeutic is IMO essential. WHO should be all over this, but isn’t.
Been following this. HCQ was objected to because Trump mentioned it
He also mentioned Remdesivir in the same sentence as a possible gamechanger…..
Remdesivir MIGHT help in late stage disease, but sure does in early stage. Stops viral replication, as posted here over a year ago. My main problem is it’s exorbitant cost, not it’s mechanism of action or questionable late stage efficacy.
I wouldt only say, HCQ was banned, not the other
Because there was no money to be made.
Stop HCQ and Ivermectin now;
No money to be obtained.
No government power to be gained.
No global power to be obtained.
No population reduction gained.
No Donald Trump rejection obtained.
That was because he was not given the correct information. Now even WHO says Remdesivir is not of much use. Health Canada approved it. Why? The only reason I see is that they also suffered from Trump Derangement Syndrome. They were countering HCQ before IVM came around. Now they are ignoring IVM.
WHO is largely funded by Bill gates.
Ivermectin is profitless.
Dr. Piere Kory is an Ivermectin advocate trying to save lives now. Trial Site News on Youtube has interviews of Dr. Piere Kory. Medicine is a for profit business that if it cures all diseases, it will greatly be reduced in size …unless there is war.
That paper was redone after the Egyptian paper was withdrawn and the results come out even more favourable for Ivermectin despite a Guardian hit piece on it.
WHO and governments will avoid getting all over this because the outcry would (will?) be enormous when the populace finds out many lives could have been saved. Class actions?
This would be even more outrageous if the gene altering drugs are found to have long term effects sort of like thalidomide. Even more class actions? There are people in this world who have too much ego and power and not enough knowledge, and humility.
I agree with you Rud.
I have spent perhaps 2000 hours reading on the subject of Covid, the so-called vaccines and other treatments.
I understand Ivermectin is highly effective against COVID-19 as both a preventative and a cure in the early stages of the illness. Hydroxychloroquine is somewhat less effective than ivermectin but still still beneficial. For those of us who are unable to obtain either ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, a possible lesser alternative is quercetin, which is available in natural food stores as a supplement.
The effective banning of low cost, highly effective treatments such as ivermectin is in my opinion a criminal act which has caused many deaths.
Based on the opinion of many senior medical experts, The effectiveness of the COVID-19 injections is relatively low and the risk is high. Based on the data, there was no good reason to inject the low risk population, which is people under 65 years of age. For this low risk population, the chances of dying of COVID-19 are approximately one and 300,000. As more data becomes available, I expect that the risk of dying from adverse reactions to the vaccine will exceed one in 300,000. We will see.
it is especially high risk and no reward to be pushing the injections into children and youth 18 and under. The adverse effects of the vaccines include inflammation of arteries including coronary arteries. There is also a significant risk of sterilization of women.
I also suspect that the sharp increase in summer cases in Israel and Britain are not a result of the virus but rather are a direct result of the injections, since many of the symptoms of COVID-19 are mimicked by the adverse reactions to the injections. COVID-19 is clearly not a summer illness. It is highly seasonalal.
I have dictated this note so I apologize in advance for any typos etc.
Regards, Allan MacRae
Quercetin (also in green tea and ginkgo biloba extracts, if you don’t want to pay extra for the pure extract), is a Zinc ionophore, just like HCQ. So when taken with a mild zinc supplement, prevents COVID-19 viral replication in epithelial cells. Quercetin, it’s precursors, and zinc are all cheap grocery store supplements. Not good for big pharma vaccines.
No different than ivermectin, or HCQ (also a zinc ionophore).
Ivermectin has up to 20 levels of action. Ionophore is one of them but not like what HCQ does. The ionophore activity of ivermectin is explained by two IVM forming a dimer and stopping the virus from binding to the cell wall. There is no requirement of zinc for the action of ivermectin, unlike the role of HCQ that makes zinc penetrate the cell walls and the zinc does the job.
The statement that:
“Its low cost is why pharma would rather make $billions off vaccines.”
is nonsense. If you are after making money you want to sell a drug that people have to take continuously or at least multiple times rather than only twice. Which would favour Ivermectin over a vaccine. Also you would want a drug that you can manufacture cheaply and easily at scale and distribute it around the world at room temperature rather than at liquid nitrogen temperature and again that says that there is more money in selling Ivermectin than the current vaccines.
I am also guessing that the profit margin on Ivermectin is significantly larger than on any of the current vaccines.
To repeat the conclusions. There is moderate evidence that Ivermectin reduces the risk of death by about 50%. There is high quality evidence that vaccines reduce the risk of by over 90+%. Vaccines also reduce the transmission rate of COVID and the severity. It is clear which one is the better option.
Izaak,
Would you please list out where the heck you get your BS!! Virtually everything you post here is wrong, so it would be nice if you would list the sources so that smart people will know to avoid them! Not everyone wants to fill their heads with garbage the way that you seem to enjoy!
There is a reason he earned the moniker “Izaak the Idiot”.
Your logic is simple, but flawed.
True, a very preventative vaccine would yield more profit than a therapeutic, depending on case rates.
So, let’s compare real stuff with vax breakthroughs.
JJ says it’s vax (‘worst’ but least cost single jab) will produce about $2.2billion in extra profit this year, while preventing all but 15% hospitalizations and deaths.
ivermectin therapy would produce about zero hospitalization deaths.
Rud,
where do you get the figure that Ivermectin would produce “about zero” hospitalisation deaths? No study has shown much more than about a 60% reduction in deaths. Vaccines are much better at preventing death.
No. The Ivermectin absolute effectivity is higher than the one of the gene therapy called vaccine.
Your blinders allow you to conveniently overlook the fact that a drug which entered use in 1986 is no longer under patents, meaning it is extremely cheap and won’t bring in the $Billions like a newly minted, patented vaccine will, multiple doses vs. one or two is meaningless.
Total nonsense Izaak as usual. Even Merck the manufacturer is downplaying it because it has low profit. India makes it for a few cents.
The Don missed a political trick when he advised the use of ivermectin, suggesting it was clinically proven as an effective treatment against Covid 19. Once he had endorsed it, the entire woke media and the left wing establishment went into overdrive to condemn the idea of a cheap clinically safe drug being suitable to deal with Covid.
If the Don had said Ivermectin was useless, the exact opposite response would have been adopted by the woke and left. Thus millions of lives would have been saved not to mention $billions of dollars. saved too.
Hey ho, there is always the next time.
What a load of tosh! Most intelligent people rely on proper testing before using a drug (C19 vaccines have such testing!!!!) Ivermectin is safe with most people but not all.
An Egyptian trial reporting success with ivermectin has been retracted for data fiddling etc.
(C19 vaccines have such testing!!!!)
Is this a question or a statement?
If it is a question, the answer is no.
If it’s a statement, it’s wrong [here in the US]. No final FDA approval. Emergency use authorization only. From what I can find about Canadian approval, they seem to be simply following the WHO recommendations. I don’t know about the rest of the world. Are there any western governments that are actually on the ball?
Emergency approuval in Germany too
In Australia it’s the Therapeutic Goods Administration that is responsible for approving drugs for use but they don’t have an Emergency Use Approval process. The TGA “fast tracked” approval, bypassing the usual trials and tests, for these drugs to be used. It is essentially the same but people still believe it’s not EUA.
Philip,
Currently for example over 50% of European adults have been vaccinated. If there were any signs of a large probability of adverse reactions they would have been spotted by now. The vaccines are safe and effective.
This doesn’t communicate safe and effective to me.
Multiple Instagram and Facebook posts have shared a purported graphic of Covid-19 “vaccine deaths and injuries” which they claim shows data from the European Medicines Agency (EMA). The claim is misleading: an EMA spokesperson told AFP it had not issued the graphic in the posts. Actual data released by the agency in fact show adverse events reported after Covid-19 vaccination that are “not necessarily related to or caused by” vaccines.The purported data was shared in this image. It was posted on Instagram on May 30, 2021.
The image includes the logo of the EudraVigilance database, which is managed by the European Medicines Agency (EMA). It compiles data on suspected vaccination side effects.
Text overlaid in the image reads in part: “Vaccine: Deaths & Injuries
“Pfizer: 5,961 / 452,779
“Moderna: 3,365 / 72,596
“AstraZeneca: 2,489 / 655,534
“J&J: 369 / 15,281”.
So the two key points are 1) the graphic was not issued by the EMA, and 2) the adverse events may not be related to the vexxines.
,
The data, however, were issued by the EMA, and the EMA has no evidence that the adverse events are not related to the vexxines.
Exactly and the reported adverse affects are based on known potential side affects and or those side affects occurring in patients with no prior history of said adverse conditions. It has been estimated that no more then 10 percent of adverse events are reported.
To say nothing of potential long term adverse conditions and the high likelihood of vaccine caused vaccine resistant mutations.
They do not put DEAD in extra big letters?
Over ten thousand people in every million will die every year, on average.
That comes to about one out of every 36,500 every day.
About 30 out of every million.
Will die, every day.
Many will die suddenly.
Most people who were at high risk were given priority to get it first where vaccines have been available.
So of course people who are vaccinated will die.
Vaccines never made anyone immortal.
And for purposes of reporting, a sore arm, a headache, a red spot where the injection was…those are all “injuries”.
You do not understand the adverse event reporting system. See my post two or three above yours.
Exactly how many headache only or sore arm only adverse advents are part of the numbers? ( I suspect you have no idea). How many required hospital care? How many required medical care?
On the contrary, I understand exactly what it is and what the number mean.
Those are deaths following the administration of a vaccine to many millions of people (FI in Europe 351 mil by 21st July – ~ half of the total pop).
Do you REALLY believe that they are the direct result of the vaccine??
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/people-vaccinated-covid?tab=table
IE: They all took a jab that went on to kill them?
The average number of deaths per month in the EU is near 500,000.
Correlation is not causation.
From the Eudravigilance website:
“Here is a list of important points to consider when viewing a web report:
I believe it’s entirely possible, and probably likely. I read dozens of personal injury reports daily and the injuries are too similar in time from vaccine receipt and sequelae, and too consistent across a large disparate group of people to be brushed off. The signal is there, as well as a credible mechanism of action, i.e., broad dispersal of spike proteins in all organs causing the body to attack itself.
additionally they are happening in people with no history of a condition likely to cause such an adverse event.
You do not understand the adverse event reporting system. See my post four or so above yours.
Many, many people have had inflammatory reactions to the covid flu shots. It’s simply not procedural to report on the negative outcomes. The push to “vaccinate” is the first and only priority. The truth is not on any one governments list, as of yet.
People haven’t been vaccinated. It’s a word game. If you are truly vaccinated you can not get what you’ve been vaccinated against, for example polio.
The number of people double vaccinated against covid, getting covid, exceeds any liberal definition of being ‘vaccinated’.
I’m all for vaccinations. I’m not a big fan of flu shots for everyone.
AND I’m no fan of the roll out of the bureaucrat/left media covid doctrine [the politicization of medicine] over actual medical practice by actual working Doctors. The Fauci flip-flop-two-step has been a national embarrassment.
Please see the graph here:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274
More UK Covid-19 data at https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases
The reported number of new cases in the UK has risen to a high of 46,460 as of 22Jul2021, vs a peak of ~60,000 circa 1Jan2021.
This July 2021 rise in cases is also being reported in Israel – another highly-vaccinated country.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/daily-covid-infections-in-israel-top-1-000-serious-cases-climb-1.10008048
Here is an interesting question:
Covid is NOT a summer flu – it is highly seasonal and tends to peak in January as it did in 2021.
So why this July spike in “cases”,
– Is this July case spike a result of poor testing methodology?
– Or is it NOT a result of the virus, but rather a reaction to the “vaccines”, which have adverse effects that mimic the virus?
Don’t expect to get the right answer from the UK government – their track record on Covid management has been dismal.
It is a result of the UK govt allowing large sporting etc events without testing or masks/social distancing and a relaxation of covid rules, plus rampant infections in UK schools.
60% of those being hospitalised weren’t vaccinated… (erroneously reported as 60% were, earlier)
Please cite sources.
Wow, that means 40% WERE vaccinated.
Taking YOUR numbers, the vaccine sucks!
This is IMPORTANT.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PmR8uXUWDEzs/
The graph at 2:10 in this video disproves Griff’s above statement.
From Israeli data in June 2021:
The number of new cases with or without vaccine injections was the same! The vaccine had no effect on new cases.
The number of hospitalized new cases rose at the same rate as new cases for vaccinated people. The vaccines did not stop hospitalizations and may have contributed to them.
The number of hospitalized cases of those NOT vaccinated rose at a much lower rate. The NOT- vaccinated people were the safest by far.
THIS DATA SAYS THE VACCINE USED IN ISRAEL WAS HARMFUL – WORSE THAN USELESS!
The US had a spike last Summer around this time, that was far worse than the first wave.
If you look at a bunch of countries, what it appears to me is that the waves of this illness are not seasonally correlated at all, it is just whenever. Random.
Some places had it one month or season, others had it earlier or later.
United States COVID: 35,215,745 Cases and 626,187 Deaths – Worldometer (worldometers.info)
“The US had a spike last Summer around this time, that was far worse than the first wave.”
That’s not much of a spike – and the first wave was not much of a wave. Look at the Winter 2020-2021 spike – now that’s a spike.
It was about 70,000 cases per day, if one looks at the 7 day moving average.
The deaths that went with it topped out at around 1200 per day, with the usual two weeks or so lag.
The first wave had a far larger number of deaths with it, despite being much fewer cases.
What I am saying is not related to the size of the waves or spikes or however one wishes to describe them…it is that if one clicks down the list of countries and looks at the graphs of cases and deaths over time, they are not correlated very well from place to place.
Countries that seemed to have avoided the pandemic turned out not to have avoided it, they were just on a different schedule.
In the current wave of cases in UK, the graph seems to have peaked at around 47000 cases per day, (7 day moving average), but cases are a couple of dozen to as much as 60 a day recently, but certainly well under a hundred.
By contrast, last January cases topped out around 59000 per day, and deaths topped out above 1200 per day, again all 7 day moving averages and in rough numbers.
So it appears to me that whatever the size of the outbreak, deaths per case have continued to go way down after starting out fairly high. This is true everyplace I have looked at.
There is a huge amount of variability from one country to another, in timing, numbers of cases and lengths of each wave, and even how many distinct waves there have been.
Just sayin’.
And it actually just occurred to me, some places that are mostly or totally tropical, have had some of the worst outbreaks.
Whistleblower Testimony: 45,000 Deaths Following Vaccinations
Nonprofit Sues HHS to Immediately Stop Emergency Use Authorization of COVID-19 Vaccines
https://www.theepochtimes.com/nonprofit-sues-hhs-to-immediately-stop-emergency-use-authorization-of-covid-19-vaccine_3913266.html
Lawsuit citing whistleblower’s claim that the true deaths following vaccination are much higher than reported
BY LI HAI
July 22, 2021 Updated: July 22, 2021
America’s Frontline Doctors, a nonprofit, filed a motion on July 19 seeking immediate injunctive relief to stop the emergency use authorization (EUA) of COVID-19 vaccines for three groups of Americans: anyone under the age of 18, anyone who has recovered from COVID-19, and those who haven’t given informed consent as defined by federal law.
The motion was filed against Xavier Becerra, Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), and other defendants in a federal district court in the Northern District of Alabama.
“The emergency declaration and its multiple renewals are illegal,” the complaint (pdf) alleges.
According to the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, when the HHS secretary declares that an emergency use is appropriate, the FDA (Food and Drug Administration) may then authorize unapproved use or EUA of a vaccine.
On Feb. 4, 2020, then-HHS Secretary Alex Azar declared a public health emergency, saying that existing circumstances justify the EUA.
The complaint alleges that the legal requirements to issue and maintain COVID-19 vaccine EUAs aren’t being met.
First, there’s no underlying emergency and no “serious or life-threatening disease or condition,” the complaint states.
According to the defendants’ data, the CCP virus has an overall survivability rate of 99.8 percent globally, “on a par with the seasonal flu.”
However, the defendants’ data is deliberately inflated, the complaint alleges. It claims that HHS has changed the rules applicable to people responsible for writing death certificates and requires them to make cause of death determinations primarily attributable to COVID-19. From last March, death certificates indicated “COVID-19 [as] being the underlying cause more often than not.”
The way in which COVID-19 is diagnosed, using magnified values from PCR tests that were also authorized for emergency use, guarantees “an unacceptably high number of false-positive results,” the complaint states.
Second, COVID-19 vaccines aren’t effective in diagnosing, treating, or preventing a disease or condition, which fails another requirement for issuing and maintaining EUAs.
The complaint cites data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) that says a total of 10,262 CCP virus breakthrough infections (detection of SARS-COV-2 within 14 or more days after receiving required dosages of a COVID-19 vaccine) were reported between Jan. 1 and April 30.
“It is important to note that the vaccines were only shown to reduce symptoms—not block transmission,” the complaint reads.
Third, the benefits don’t outweigh the known and potential risks of each vaccine. Those risks are especially increased in reproductive health, potential death, neurological damage, more virulent strains, and others.
And lastly, there are adequate, approved, and available alternatives to the vaccines, such as Ivermectin, Budesonide, Hydroxychloroquine, and others.
Not Adequately Informed
The plaintiffs also allege that health care professionals and vaccine candidates aren’t being adequately informed about the vaccines, as the federal law requires.
“No one ever provided me with any information regarding possible adverse reactions, nor did they provide me with any information regarding alternative treatments. I did not understand this was gene therapy rather than a traditional vaccine. Again, I also did not understand that the vaccines were not ‘approved’ by the FDA,” plaintiff Angelia Deselle said in a declaration included in the lawsuit.
The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) was established to provide information regarding adverse events potentially caused by vaccines. The complaint states that VAERS isn’t accurate and that the federal government is failing to provide data from other sources, such as the military, Medicare, and Medicaid.
According to the complaint, a patient can’t give informed consent without an understanding of the risks.
Under-18 Age Group and Those Recovered From COVID-19
“CDC data indicates that children under 18 have a 99.998 percent COVID-19 recovery rate with no treatment,” the complaint reads. “Injecting this under-18 subpopulation with the Vaccines threatens them with immediate, potentially life-threatening harm.”
Last month, the CDC said that more than 1,200 cases of heart inflammation in adolescents and young adults were reported following the administration of Pfizer’s or Moderna’s two-dose vaccines.
“There is no public interest in subjecting children to experimental vaccination programs, to protect them from a disease that does not threaten them,” Dr. Angelina Farella, a pediatrician who has actively practiced for over 25 years, said in a statement. Farella is an expert for America’s Frontline Doctors.
Syringes with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines lie on a tray during a program without an appointment, in Sant Vicenc de Castellet, north of Barcelona, Spain, on July 6, 2021. (Albert Gea/Reuters)
The complaint also asserts that Americans who have recovered from COVID-19 shouldn’t get vaccinated.
It cites a recent Cleveland Clinic study that demonstrates that natural immunity through prior infection is stronger than any benefit conferred by a COVID-19 vaccine. Another study, published in the New England Journal of Medicine, shows that of those with preexisting COVID-19 immunity, 89 percent reported adverse side-effects after receiving the first vaccine injection.
“COVID recovered patients are at extremely high risk to a vaccine,” plaintiffs’ expert Dr. Richard Urso said in a statement. “They have all the requisite components of immune memory. Vaccination may activate a hyperimmune response leading to a significant tissue injury and possibly death.”
Whistleblower Testimony: 45,000 Deaths Following Vaccinations
Jane Doe, a computer programmer with expertise in the health care data analytics field, filed a sworn statement indicating that the actual number of deaths following the COVID-19 vaccination is about 45,000.
“It is my professional estimate that VAERS database, while extremely useful, is under-reported by a conservative factor of at least 5. On July 9, 2021, there were 9,048 deaths reported in VAERS,” Jane Doe said in her statement (pdf).
“I queried data from CMS medical claims with regard to vaccines and patient deaths, and have assessed that the deaths occurring within 3 days of vaccination are higher than those reported in VAERS by a factor of at least 5. This would indicate the true number of vaccine-related deaths was at least 45,000.”
Jane Doe noted that the swine flu vaccine was taken off the market because of 53 deaths reported following vaccination.
“The evidence makes it irrefutable that Plaintiffs and others in the public will suffer irreparable injury … if this motion is denied,” the plaintiffs asserted. “Finally, the evidence tilts the balance of hardships and public interest … decisively in favor of Plaintiffs.”
In an email to The Epoch Times, HHS declined to comment on the lawsuit, saying, “As a matter of policy, we do not comment on pending litigation.”
President Joe Biden has praised the vaccines as safe and effective.
“You know, some people have questions about how quickly the vaccines were developed. They say they’ve been developed so quickly, they can’t be that good. Well, here’s what you need to know: Vaccines were developed over a decade of research in similar viruses, and they’ve gone through strict FDA clinical trials,” Biden said last month.
“The bottom line is this—I promise you: They are safe. They are safe. And even more importantly, they’re extremely effective.”
The Biden administration announced earlier this month that it would begin a door-to-door outreach campaign in targeted communities to boost COVID-19 vaccination rates.
Phillip,
We cannot get polio because that virus is not in circulation.
Vaccination is not black magic.
All it can do is prime the immune system in people that respond well to the vaccine, so as to eliminate the lag that occurs when our immune system sees a given antigen for the first time.
That lag is around 10 days more or less.
Some infectious diseases have resisted all attempts to make a vaccine.
Some we are unlikely to get sick from twice, others it does not matter if we had it before, we will still get sick if exposed again.
Consider this: When was the last time hundreds of millions of people were vaccinated all of a sudden, and then even the vaccinated were tested over and over again, and even those who have been exposed before are tested, over and over again?
The answer to the first question is, not since the early 1960s, except in the case of some flu vaccines.
To the second, the answer is never.
We would never have known it in the past if someone vaccinated had an asymptomatic case of something they were vaccinated for.
And mild cold like symptoms would have just been ignored and assumed to be a cold.
But in 2021, people are acting very irrationally, and people who have not studied the history of vaccines and/or infectious diseases, are making assumptions about things that are not valid.
Because we have never had anything like the testing that is going on with this.
But vaccines have always only reduced the severity, in some people, of the illness the vaccination protects against.
There has never been a 100% effective vaccine.
Ya, we eradicated polio which is why no ones getting it. Because we had an effective vaccine that actually vaccinated. Not a flu shot that looks like, going by the numbers, has opened the door to the variants.
The delta variant began to spread well before any of the vaccines were given an EUA.
I am not aware of any new variants that have become widespread since vaccinations rates have become significant.
IOW, what opened the door to variants appears to be a virus that was spreading unimpeded.
The inactivated polio virus is considered to be 90% effective after two doses.
This is somewhat less effective vs polio than several of the covid vaccines are against covid after the same number of doses.
Four doses of polio vaccine is considered fully vaccinated.
With the weakened virus version of polio vaccine (the oral version), many people got polio from vaccinated people spreading the virus that was in the vaccine.
Even now, oral polio vaccine is estimated to cause about 3 cases of vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis per million doses given.
Which is better than the 5000 cases per million who are paralyzed by getting a polio infection.
So, the kind given by injection that uses inactivated virus is very safe, but only about 90% effective after two doses.
The oral kind is very effective, but causes a few cases of polio itself, sometimes in people who were not vaccinated but who came into contact with feces of people who were.
It is about 50% effective after one dose, and about 95% effective after three doses.
The oral kind also last longer, as it provides antibody protection and memory cell protection.
No one is very sure how long the injected version provides protection.
You might review the history of the early days of polio vaccination if you think that everyone that got vaccinated was completely protected.
In an early trial involving 1.8 million children, 440,000 of whom got one or more injections of vaccine,
“The Salk vaccine had been 60–70% effective against PV1 (poliovirus type 1), over 90% effective against PV2 and PV3, and 94% effective against the development of bulbar polio.”
“In April 1955, soon after mass polio vaccination began in the US, the Surgeon General began to receive reports of patients who contracted paralytic polio about a week after being vaccinated with Salk polio vaccine from the Cutter pharmaceutical company, with the paralysis limited to the limb the vaccine was injected into. The Cutter vaccine had been used in vaccinating 200,000 children in the western and midwestern United States.[89] Later investigations showed that the Cutter vaccine had caused 40,000 cases of polio, killing 10″
“In response the Surgeon General pulled all polio vaccines made by Cutter Laboratories from the market, but not before 250 cases of paralytic illness had occurred. Wyeth polio vaccine was also reported to have paralyzed and killed several children. It was soon discovered that some lots of Salk polio vaccine made by Cutter and Wyeth had not been properly inactivated, allowing live poliovirus into more than 100,000 doses of vaccine. In May 1955, the National Institutes of Health and Public Health Services established a Technical Committee on Poliomyelitis Vaccine to test and review all polio vaccine lots and advise the Public Health Service as to which lots should be released for public use. These incidents reduced public confidence in polio vaccine, leading to a drop in vaccination rates.”
Vaccines eliminate diseases in the few cases that they have been able to do so completely, not by being 100% effective or by being administered to 100% of a population, but by a combination of being largely effective and being accepted by a large percentage of a population.
In 1997, a study in the US concluded that since about 1968, the oral polio vaccine had itself caused about 8-10 cases of polio per year in the USA.
At that point, it was determined that only the inactivated version would be given starting in the year 2000.
The difference in efficacy was deemed to be less important by this point in time, since the virus was no longer circulating in the US.
Vaccines have never been perfect, and they have always been about statistics.
Back when everyone knew people who were killed or left with lifelong injuries from infectious diseases, no one was under the illusion that they had to be perfect, and should not ever be dangerous to any small number of recipients or else it was better not to get the inoculation.
With all medicines, always, the calculation is risk vs benefit.
Chemo drugs for cancer flat out kill some people who get them.
But much less often than the cancer they are hopefully treating.
Nope. The Indians were well on their way in terms of vaccine delivery before the Delta variant took hold. They were actively tracking Delta patients who’d been vaccinated.
Nope?
No wonder you have so much misinformation.
I just showed you how badly mistaken you were regarding polio vs covid vaccines.
But I can see why you now only want to talk about something else.
Whatever.
I had thought, since you started out saying your reservations were based on your understanding of how this vaccine compared to polio vaccine (your example), that getting a more accurate picture of how these mRNA vaccines for covid are actually far better and far safer than any of the polio vaccines ever were, especially early on but even recently.
So, back to “Nope”.
Well on their way, you say?
They still have low penetration.
How about posting something specific?
Delta was discovered in Late November Early December 2020.
The EUAs in the US do not predate that.
And delta was already widespread when it was discovered.
So obviously it originated before it was described.
Of course, I was talking about the vaccines we are using in the US and UK, and specifically not about one’s that everyone knows damn well are crap.
India has how many people?
How many were vaccinated by last November or prior?
If you think the virus was Nope not spreading unchecked last Fall, when delta emerged, then you are not the person I thought I was speaking to and there is no point in trying to discuss anything with you.
But just in case, and for anyone else:
India did not start vaccinating anyone until January 16th, months after delta emerged.
As of last report, 7% of 1,352+ million people there have been fully vaccinated in India.
Something like 27% of the population has been infected.
I would say it was a YUP.
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“C19 vaccines have such testing!!!!”
I don’t men to be rude, but forgive me Bwahahahah.
The ‘vaccine pharmaceutical companies have designated their products experimental with trials finishing in 2023.
What don’t you understand about ‘experimental’?
Ivermectin has been used for ~40 years. You have been eating it all that time, assuming you eat meat.
Got horns yet?
It’s one of the safest drugs on the planet. Aspirin is more dangerous.
halfrunt,
You really need to get out more often; hiding in your basement or wherever you’re sheltering seems to have isolated you from the real world!
There are over fifty studies of ivermectin now, with the vast majority showing large improvements for victims of the ChiCom virus; especially when taken prophylactically! Maybe you should go outside and get some fresh air and sunshine; all the masking and cowering indoors seems to have given you a pronounced case of hypercapnia! That’s not the recommended way to sequester carbon!
Have f.e. the vaccines passed a proper testing ? 😀 No, the tests are just running by millions, later billions.
Dare you to get a jab ?
Ivermection is tested in India and has shown how it works. I need no placebo deaths to compare them with the outcome of Ivermectin given patients.
P.S.
If the “vaccines” (they’re actually gene modifying therapy) are so safe, why do they have a higher rate of deaths and harmful effects than ALL OTHER VACCINES over the last thirty years combined! You can’t come here and boldly lie without pushback!
“If the “vaccines” (they’re actually gene modifying therapy) are so safe, why do they have a higher rate of deaths and harmful effects than ALL OTHER VACCINES over the last thirty years combined!”
The vaccines do not alter or modify your genes. More BS.
Simplest Simon,
Perhaps you should listen to Robert Malone, the doctor who was involved in developing the technology! I know you don’t give a rat’s ass about science and actual data; but perhaps this once you should look at it and stop trying to kill so many people! It’s rather psychopathic!
P.S.- Try to look at a number of sources and avoid your usual propaganda sites! That is if you want the truth!
So what are your immunology qualifications, CNN-Simon?
My understanding is that there is no evidence that the injections modify our genes, but there is no evidence that they can’t, either. It is believed that a lot of the human genome is the product of viral insertion, so there are mechanisms for that kind of thing. Is it possible for the nano particle packets to get into the germ-line cells and alter the genes that get passed on to the next generation? We don’t know. Can they get into stem cells and alter the genes that are used to repair the body? We don’t know. (If they modified stem cells, it would probably be fatal, since the stem cells would end up producing proteins that the rest of the body would think are foreign, and attack them.)
So now you can explain why Remdesivir was approved without proper testing. maybe it was because certain medical people have connections to the company, Gilead????
Rod, actually it was Hydroxychloroquine not Ivermectin. But the same reasoning was applied to Ivermectin especially in Canada.
What is it with Australians anyways? They have these very hardliner eco-nuts and the most toxic and nasty feminist I’ve ever run across. Is it some kind of over compensation for being a small country and stuck at the bottom of the world? Really. I’d like an answer, if there is one.
For eco-nuts and feminists, New Zealand is WAY worse but Aus is catching up.
My sympathies. I though we had cornered the market on eco-nuts and rabid feminists, but when visiting Aus we listened to a lot of local radio while traveling. It was rough. 😄
Concur
What’s wrong with feminists?
Everything.
Feminists and masculinists are great, each with a sex-oriented ideology.
Feminists try to make women masculine, just as they have emasculated men like you to make the indoctrinationa and thought control more successful!
Every variant of feminism has a different problem. So that’s a hard question to answer.
Nothing wrong with 1st and second wave the current crop however are nothing like their predecessors who fought for EQUALITY the current crop are misandrists who want to rule and want power rather than equality.
Is that a trick question, or are you really that uninformed? No, no don’t answer that I’ve got a pretty good idea.
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Dr. Lee Merritt discovered research from 40 years ago which revealed the effectiveness of anti-microbials to combat viruses and big pharma has been suppressing that research to protect their $46 billion vaccine market. Ivermectin and HCQ/Azithromycin if used could save millions of lives.
Other prophylactics such as vitamin c, d3, zinc and Quercitin seem to be effective as well.
c19early.com
Wife and I have been prescribed ivermectin as a preventive (assuming we can get a pharmacy to prescribe locally) and other OTC as suggested by others on this forum.
I am a retired PH professional. IMHO, unethical to deny people therapeutics that could have a positive outcome from a Wuhan virus infection.
This relentless push to coerce an experimental gene therapy injection on unsuspecting individuals is wrong. Never in my lifetime have I seen such rabid behavior trying to persuade people who are at low risk to submit to this tyranny.
What about informed consent on risks vs benefits? I doubt the consent form is anywhere close to detailing the “real risks” associated with this emergency use authorization injection. Not approved. Experimental. Nevertheless, the powers to be are negligent and being dishonest. My risk of dying from Wuhan virus infection is less than 1%. No reason to become a test subject to line the pockets of big pharma or Bill Gates.
Makes me wonder if Bill Gates got his injection?
Some time in the future someone is going to unravel the sources of the ant-therapeutic propaganda.
I hope it’s soon, and I hope criminal charges ensue.
Nobody is pushing “experimental gene therapy” as a treatment for COVID19. Vaccines are not gene therapy.
Izaak,
I know this is difficult for you; you horse blinkers must be on so tight that it’s hard for you to see beyond the tips of your toes! The supposed “vaccines” that you speak of are genetic modification technology; that’s what the mRNA denotes! They ARE NOT a vaccine by the usual definition! Get over it!! Why do you suppose the drug companies insisted on complete freedom from liability; because they think they’re safe!?
That is nonsense. mRNA means that they use strands of RNA that cells interpret to make a pseudo spike protein that antibodies learn to recognise. The alternative would be to directly make the spike proteins and then inject them into people. There is no genetic modification of anybody.
Are you really this dense?
Izaak the Idiot, now you are just talking through your hat [again].
In gen therapy, Adeno vira are used to transport genetic material into the body for genetic therapy.
And it has been found, Adeno vira as in Astra, Johnson or Sputnik are responsible for blood clots in liver venes or resposible for thrombocytopenia, papers from 2006 / 2007.
The four mRNA and RNA injections are definitely NOT vaccines.
You can bet the vaccine manufacturers gave their employees priority for vaccinations – I know AZ did. I doubt any refused. A good number of those employees would have a reasonable idea of the risks either way.
So if the vaccines are deadly then big Pharma will soon be short of employees.
Without vaccinations, the global economy would take years to recover rather than months.
All the woke political leaders have been forthcoming in getting a jab. If the conspiracy theories are correct on how deadly the vaccines are then the upside is that only unwoke anti-vax pollies will remain.
I don’t know the current number, but a CDC official was asked by a reporter a few months ago how many CDC employees had been ‘vaccinated’ and the answer was a guess of about 50%.
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Only Half CDC Employees Have Been Vaccinated, But Still Want YOU Vaccinated | 93.1FM WIBC
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Things that make you go hmmmmm….
Fauci’s 50 to 60% was a guess. He has no idea. To use the word “only” in this context is misleading – a beat up. This was his actual answer:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4963284/user-clip-fauci-admits-50-60-cdc-nih-employees-vaccinated
His correct response should have been “I have been vaccinated”, having his first Moderna jab late last year.
It appears there are enough brave souls willing to take the jab that it will not matter if the unwilling refuse as there will be enough vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. I see reports that 73% of adult New Yorkers have already been vaccinated.
Yup. Fauci’s answer was a guess, which I noted in my opening sentence. I can’t control the choice of words in the lede of the linked article, but the linked article did give Fauci’s response.
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His response was his response. “Should have” doesn’t count. (I “should have” bought McDonald’s stock in the ’50s, eh?)
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I’m at a less-than-miniscule risk (not zero, of course) of dying from Covid-19, having consulted with my personal physician. In support of proper experimental drug testing, I have voluntarily placed myself in the control group; the cohort following one of the prophylactic regimes.
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It appears that none of the ‘vaccines’ prevent acquiring Covid-19 or prevent the ‘vaccinated’ from spreading the virus. The ‘vaccines’ have been shown to greatly ameliorate symptoms in most people. Indications are that some people have severe adverse reactions, including death, to the ‘vaccines’. The number of adverse reactions appears to be higher than all other given-to-date vaccines combined.
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So, according to official sources, the ‘vaccinated’ are in little or no danger from me, but I may be in danger from the ‘vaccinated’ people. Then again, maybe not, as we shall see in time from the results of the “prophylaxis only” cohort.
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This reply is late in the comment thread. Anyone who has read this far has had had sufficient links provided above (some links 2 or 3 times) to information that would allow an individual to make an informed decision after consultation with their personal physician.
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I personally respect the decisions made by informed individuals. Some people are well served getting the ‘vaccine.’ Others are not.
“The number of adverse reactions appears to be higher than all other given-to-date vaccines combined.”
Source?
I have looked for it myself, having heard others say this.
Not finding any.
Nicholas,
icisil covered it above in a reply to Simon and followed up with a chart of the data. (I’m not sure about the 30 years mentioned. I thought it was 20 years.)
The data is available here.
VAERS – Data (hhs.gov)
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I think part of the reason for so many VAERS reports is because the mRNA therapies were fast-tracked and didn’t go through the usual multi-year trials that the other vaccines went through.
So it’s no surprise to me that there are many, many more reports just due to the fast-tracking.
I find it odd (not really, I suppose) that the MASSIVE spike in VAERS reports is simply being dismissed as “people can self-report”. It seems to me that when you have a tracking system, whatever that system is, and you see that drastic of a change in the results, it warrants significant investigation, not just hand-waving.
The emergency use authorization in the U.S. for the mRNA gene treatments was contingent on their being no other treatments. This is why HCQ and Ivermectin were disallowed and the anti-Trumpers did the dirty work for them.
Mighty sick the way these high and mighty people are toying with peoples’ lives for this experiment; in the old days the perpetrators were hanged for performing tests such as this.
Thanks, I wondered why two cheap and safe drugs were forbidden.
IMO, the reason ivermectin is being marginalized is that green-lighting (or yellow-lighting) it would weaken the momentum to universal vaccination, which god-playing Public Health nannies see as THE ONLY WAY to beat the virus. They’re crusaders and have a locked-in goal in mind, viewing alternative paths to that goal as heretical deviations.
People might be tempted to take HCQ or IVM until they get the jab, then think the jab protects them so they don’t have to keep taking HCQ or IVM. But HCQ and IVM will kill the injection for the same reason it kills the virus, rendering the injections useless. Big Pharma can’t have their injections undermined. (One wonders if this is the reason for large numbers of breakthrough cases.)
Eric,
The people responsible for the suppression of therapeutics like ivermectin and HCQ have a great deal of blood their hands! The US fatalities could have been 250,000-300,000 lower, and one meta-analysis I read estimated that 1 1/2 MILLION lives could have been saved worldwide!
I will never understand how fascists and communists can so blithely sacrifice their fellow humans for power and control! I guess that’s one of the differences between the average person and the sociopaths striving to rule over us!
q-anon lives!
How strange.Amongst a gaggle of sceptics, you’re the only person that mentioned Qanon.
I’m not sure what conclusion to draw from that.
He’s just repeating a talking point given to him by his masters.
halfrunt,
I don’t pay any attention q-anon or it’s followers, just like I give little credence to morons like you! If you can’t find a plethora of data supporting the use of ivermectin and other therapeutics, then you are not smart enough to be allowed in the gene pool! Please, for the sake of humanity, stay out!!
halfrunt, you can join up with CNN-Simon’s AL-Anon meeting, providing he remembers to go.
“The people responsible for the suppression of therapeutics like ivermectin and HCQ have a great deal of blood their hands! “
And your morally deprived team who spread misinformation about a highly successful vaccines are innocent? If it wasn’t so deadly serious your pathetic misinformed rantings would be funny. How can you not be convinced when 99+% of people dying of covid are unvaccinated.
Total hogwash. Data from Israel and the UK disprove that.
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1416880859462971395
The CDC reduced the PCR cycle threshold (Ct) to 28 for vaccinated people, compared to 35-40+ for unvaccinated people, so “cases” are much less likely in the vaccinated.
Planned parent/hood facilities and practices. Fat is beautiful, healthy at any weight, no labels, no judgements, are past, present, and progressive comorbidities. Denial and stigmatization of safe, effective, inexpensive treatments. The masks indemnity that has been demonstrated in control trials to have random effect at best, and increase infections at worst. And, of course, the ill-concieved general population lockdowns, immigration reform, sanctuary cities, and collateral damage.
Simple Simon,
It’s quite easy actually! I am skeptical of EVERYONE, and so I check multiple sources to find ones that are reliable! Unlike you, I don’t let ANYONE tell me what to believe!
How is life in the Matrix, by the way? Are you getting all of your dreams fulfilled by the machines? What a pathetic excuse for a human!!
“Simple Simon”
Adhom…. and you call me pathetic.
Simon,
If you would come up with actual facts and data, you wouldn’t get treated like an idiot! Maybe stop acting like one for a while!
Try and spend just five minutes a day where you don’t say or do anything stupid! You might find it fun and habit forming!
Reading your comments I come to the conclusion, all your comments are adhoms,
as you take us for idiots.
Knuckles, Simon. Keep up your hypocrisy.
You started with the ad hominem and now you complain? Yes, you are pathetic.
CNN-Simon pulls out the only party lie he could find in an emergency.
If ivermectin works, moxidectin might be a superior treatment based on its much longer half-life. Both drugs are used in sub-saharan Africa for treating River Blindness.
UN – The Cheapest COVID-19 Therapy in the World – Dr.Berg
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1VHvy8pJYbg4/
ISRAELI DATA REVEALS COVID VACCINE FAILURE
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PmR8uXUWDEzs/
Mumbo jumbo bs
How do you know this, CNN-Simon?
Re-posting from above – thank you SK!
This is IMPORTANT.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PmR8uXUWDEzs/
The graph at 2:10 in this video disproves Griff’s above statement.
From Israeli data in June 2021:
The number of new cases with or without vaccine injections was the same! The vaccine had no effect on new cases.
The number of hospitalized new cases rose at the same rate as new cases for vaccinated
people. The vaccines did not stop hospitalizations and may have contributed to them.
The number of hospitalized cases of those NOT vaccinated rose at a much lower rate. The NOT-vaccinated people were the safest by far.
THIS DATA SAYS THE VACCINE USED IN ISRAEL WAS HARMFUL – WORSE THAN USELESS!
MY ABOVE POST SUPPORTS THIS PREVIOUS POST AND MY HYPOTHESIS:
This July spike in Covid-19 “cases” in the UK and Israel is a NOT a result of the virus, but rather is a reaction to the “vaccines”.
[Cue Twilight zone music; insert strong expletives as appropriate]
Governments are going to be very reluctant to admit this hypo could be true.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/07/22/aussie-health-minister-goes-off-script-with-ivermectin-treatment-for-covid-19/#comment-3298147
Please see the graph here:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274
More UK Covid-19 data at https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases
The reported number of new cases in the UK has risen to a high of 46,460 as of 22Jul2021, vs a peak of ~60,000 circa 1Jan2021.
This July 2021 rise in cases is also being reported in Israel – another highly-vaccinated country.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/daily-covid-infections-in-israel-top-1-000-serious-cases-climb-1.10008048
Here is an interesting question:
Covid is NOT a summer flu – it is highly seasonal and tends to peak in January as it did in 2021.
So why this July spike in “cases”,
– Is this July case spike a result of poor testing methodology?
– Or is it NOT a result of the virus, but rather a reaction to the “vaccines”, which have adverse effects that mimic the virus?
Don’t expect to get the right answer from the UK government – their track record on Covid management has been dismal.
More evidence that this June-July 2021 spike in Covid-19 “cases” is NOT a result of the virus, but rather a reaction to the “vaccines”, which have adverse effects that mimic the virus:
HOW COME COUNTRIES WITH HIGHEST INJECTION RATES HAVE HIGHEST NEW CASE RATES?
July 27, 2021 / Brian Peckford
Dr. Joseph Mercola is reporting that his data shows what many would think could never happen:
Covid cases are going up most in the most vaccinated countries .
For example he says:
‘Cyprus, where more than 51% of the population is vaccinated they have the highest case counts in the world. ‘ The full story by clicking the PDF:
Download PDF
See UK data and July case spike at
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51768274
Even more evidence that this June-July 2021 spike in Covid-19 “cases” is NOT a result of the virus, but is a reaction to the “vaccines”, which have adverse effects that mimic the virus.
Are our idiot governments considering another lockdown? Probably.
What they should do is stop all Covid-19 injections until they sort out what is really happening – incredible dangerous incompetence!
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OK -WHAT’S UP? ICELAND 74% FULLY VACCINATED , 1263% INCREASE IN CASES!
July 27, 2021 / Brian Peckford
And that’s not all!
Italy 49% fully vaccinated —79% increase in cases
Germany 49% fully vaccinated —26% increase in cases
France 45% fully vaccinated — 120% increase in cases
Israel 55% fully vaccinated —48% increase in cases
Canada 55% fully vaccinated —26% increase in cases
Switzerland 47% fully vaccinated —29% increase in cases
US 49% fully vaccinated —46% increase in cases
THEN
Russia only 16%fully vaccinated — 4% decrease in cases
India —6.9% fully vaccinated —0.3% decrease in cases
Source : world o meter and our world in data websites
Last seven days vs previous seven days.
“ABOUT HALF THE CASES ARE VACCINE FAILURES”
Interview with Dr Peter McCullough July 23, 2021
https://thehighwire.com/videos/about-half-the-cases-are-vaccine-failures/
Dr. Peter McCullough, joins the Highwire again, this time to discuss the serious problem with the efficacy of the #Covid19 vaccines and how mass vaccination is creating this runaway train of a pandemic.
Swiss Policy Analysis, Vaccine Failure.
by Dr. Peter McCullough | Jul 26, 2021 | Healthcare
This important and highly graphic summary gives the evidence from both the US and Israel, which are tracking COVID-19 vaccine failure cases, unlike the US, which is only concerned with reporting COVID-19 in the unvaccinated. What has been shown in the US and Israel, where >80% of strains are the Delta or Delta Plus variants, is that indeed the mutant virus has now eluded the immunity of the vaccines.
To make matters worse, seniors and high-risk patients vaccinated in January 2021 appear to have no protection whatsoever.
Important findings from Israel: The latest data from Israel, which has used the Pfizer mRNA vaccine primarily, indicates that vaccine effectiveness against Delta coronavirus infection and symptomatic (“mild”) disease has dropped from about 95% to about 40%, whereas effectiveness against hospitalization and severe disease
(i.e., low blood oxygen levels) remains at 80% to 90% (see chart below).
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Importantly, in people who got vaccinated already in January 2021 (primarily the elderly), protection against infection and mild disease may already have dropped to near 0% (see chart above). Moreover, since the Delta covid outbreak is still accelerating in Israel, the effectiveness against hospitalization and severe disease may further decrease (due to lags in hospitalizations).
Meanwhile, from the UK: “In the UK, which has primarily used the AstraZeneca DNA adenovector vaccine, the latest estimate by researchers at the University College London indicates an effectiveness against infection of close to zero percent and an effectiveness against severe disease of about 60%. In very senior citizens, the effectiveness against severe disease may be even lower (due to a weaker immune response).”
Report on long-term analysis: Long-term forecasting of the COVID-19 epidemic
We can expect the same patterns to emerge in the US quickly as of July 17, 2021; the CDC reports the US has 83% of cases with the Delta variant and has not yet sequenced for Delta Plus, which may be even more resistant to the vaccines. The only silver lining in the vaccine implosion is that the Delta strains are far milder and easily treated at home in high-risk seniors. Additionally, those who volunteered for the investigational vaccine program may have milder symptoms.
Swiss Policy Research findings: Covid Vaccines: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
Dr. Peter McCullough
Dr. McCullough is an internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, and Professor of Medicine, Texas Christian University and the University of North Texas Health Sciences Center School of Medicine. He maintains ABIM certification in internal medicine and cardiovascular diseases. He practices both internal medicine including the management of common infectious diseases as well as the cardiovascular complications of both the viral infection and the injuries developing after the COVID-19 vaccine in Dallas TX, USA.
Since the outset of the pandemic, Dr. McCullough has been a leader in the medical response to the COVID-19 disaster and has published “Pathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infection” the first synthesis of sequenced multidrug treatment of ambulatory patients infected with SARS-CoV-2 in the American Journal of Medicine and subsequently updated in Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine. He has 46 peer-reviewed publications on the infection and has commented extensively on the medical response to the COVID-19 crisis in TheHill and on FOX NEWS Channel.
On November 19, 2020, Dr. McCullough testified in the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and throughout 2021 in the Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, Colorado General Assembly, and New Hampshire Senate concerning many aspects of the pandemic response. Dr. McCullough has had one full-year of dedicated academic and clinical efforts in combating the SARS-CoV-2 virus and in doing so, has reviewed thousands of reports, participated in scientific congresses, group discussions, press releases, and has been considered among the world’s experts on COVID-19.
Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Drops to 84 Percent After Six Months: Study
By Zachary Stieber
July 28, 2021 Updated: July 28, 2021
https://www.theepochtimes.com/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness-drops-to-84-percent-after-six-months-study_3922770.html
The effectiveness of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine in preventing symptomatic infection drops by more than 10 percent after six months, the company said on July 28.
The two-dose vaccine, developed in conjunction with Germany’s BioNTech, was found to be 96 percent effective for the first two months following the second dose, according to a study from the companies’ scientists.
However, the efficacy drops in the following months, declining to 83.7 percent after four to six months.
CEO Albert Bourla said on CNBC that a drop in efficacy after such a short time is “not uncommon.”
Effectiveness in preventing severe disease remained at about 97 percent for up to six months, the end time of the published data, which comes from an ongoing study of 42,000 volunteers across six countries who each received two doses three weeks apart.
The new results, which are through March 13, follow other indications that the protection received from the Pfizer vaccine decreases over time.
The study is preprint, meaning it hasn’t been peer-reviewed. The authors of the study said that ongoing follow-up would be needed to examine how effective the vaccine is over a longer period of time before determining whether booster shots are needed.
But in a call with investors, Pfizer officials cited the study saying that it and other emerging real-world data suggest that immunity against both infection and symptomatic disease may wane for those who have gotten a two-dose regimen.
Initial data from a phase one study showed that participants had a higher level of neutralization antibody titers against the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus Delta variant after getting a booster—a third dose—versus those who just received two doses, officials said.
“The third dose elevates the neutralizing antibodies in our laboratory studies to up to 100 times higher levels [after the third dose] compared to [before],” Mikael Dolsten, Pfizer’s chief scientific officer, told investors on the call.
The CCP virus causes COVID-19.
New York-based Pfizer plans to submit an application to U.S. regulators for emergency use authorization for a booster dose as early as August.
Two top U.S. health agencies said earlier this month that the evidence currently doesn’t show the need for boosters, but officials from one of the agencies signaled last week that boosters may be needed for certain populations.
Government officials are “actively looking into ways” to let people who don’t have strong immune systems gain access to boosters, said Dr. Amanda Cohn, chief medical officer of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
If boosters are authorized, they would be recommended at least six months after the second dose, Pfizer indicated on July 28.
The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is the most used in the United States. More than 191.5 million have been administered, versus 138.2 million Moderna shots and 13.2 million from Johnson & Johnson.
Moderna’s vaccine is also delivered in two doses, while Johnson & Johnson is a single-dose shot.
Moderna hasn’t yet indicated to its recipients whether they’ll need a booster. The Massachusetts-based company announced in April that its vaccine was 90 percent effective in preventing COVID-19 and 95 percent effective against severe COVID-19 after six months.
However, that announcement came before the rise of the Delta strain, which now reportedly makes up 80 percent of sequenced cases in the United States.
Johnson & Johnson hasn’t yet released its six-month vaccine efficacy data.
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According to other data, I don’t think “Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Drops to 84 Percent After Six Months”.
My bet is it is much less effective than that – maybe 30% or less after six months. Look at all the breakthrough cases in Israel.
Ivermectin is dirt cheap. The actual pure material is $7,000 per kg, For a 70kg patient, the daily dose is 14mg. Take 2 hours after food or 1 hour before. This equates to a dollar a day plus gelatine capsule and pharmacist markup etc. Add zinc, vitamin D and C, it is still vastly cheaper than the UNTESTED, EXPERIMENTAL “vaccine” (read gene therapy) for which there is no legal redress in the event of death or injury. The Ivermectin will also clean the s..t our of you in a good way by flushing out parasites.
An alternative for Ivermectin is over the counter Quercetain- not as good as Ivermectin, but it does get the zinc (the actual active part of the treatment) to the ACE 2 receptor where the virus attaches. We have been taking Quercetain/zinc for over a year now- not a single cold or sniffle for 2 winters.
The BIG question that nobody wants to answer is this- why are these simple, safe, inexpensive treatments vilified and denied to the People? Why are the People (tyrannically) being denied the right to medical treatment of their choice?
The ability to question makes us human. The right to question makes us free.
“Ivermectin is dirt cheap. The actual pure material is $7,000 per kg, For a 70kg patient, the daily dose is 14mg. Take 2 hours after food or 1 hour before. This equates to a dollar a day plus gelatine capsule and pharmacist markup etc.”
And the vaccines which are highly successful….. are free. Gee which one to choose?
Nothing is free you cret!n.
Didn’t pay a cent. That makes it free to me. Whose the cretin?
You are the cretin, if you have to ask. You paid for it with your taxes.
It’s hilarious how socialists always think that taxpayer money is free!
Al least I wont be letting my ignorance(inability to discern between what works with covid and what doesn’t) or arrogance ( the rights belief they know better than the science)about this disease cost me my life, unlike a lot of ring wingnuts. Darwinian theory in action. As Biden so rightly said… this disease has become a pandemic of the unvaccinated (and I would add ignorant).
Here is your hero in action, CNN-Simon:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/joe-biden-incoherently-babbles-asked-children-12-will-able-get-vaccinated-video/
Simon Simpleton,
Do you embrace the Nazi ideology so strongly because you respect their beliefs, or do you just hate humanity!?
What the leader of the Bai Den Crime Family said is wrong! Once again you swing and miss! The countries with HIGHEST “vaccination” rates are experiencing sharp spikes in new cases; among the “vaccinated!”
This disease is rather easy to defeat. Live and eat healthy, take a therapeutic like ivermectin and if you are elderly or suffering from comorbidities stay isolated and get extra protection!
I was reading a discussion of epidemiologists that were talking about how the way these vexxines are being pushed is actually helping the virus to evolve new variants and preventing us from reaching herd immunity! You must be ecstatic to hear this!
“I was reading a discussion of epidemiologists that were talking about how the way these vexxines are being pushed is actually helping the virus to evolve “
Bull crap
https://www.bitchute.com/video/R8Z3oioYrdIM/
Evolution denier.
Any time they say someone died of complications from covid, like in this video, it means that a person who tested positive to covid died from something other than covid. Like Nick Cordero, the actor, who got sick, went to the hospital, tested negative twice until he got a nosocomial infection and tested positive, at which point he was put on a ventilator that gave him pneumonia, which stopped his heart, but they revived him, went on ECMO which caused a blood clot in his leg that had to be amputated, then weeks more suffering and downward spiral into death.
So basically an iaatrogenic casualty blamed on covid. My guess would be that the woman mentioned in this video suffered a similar fate.
have you been jabbed Simon?
worried? … you should be.
Certainly you, as we’ll pay through our noses not just for vaccines but for the destroyed economies and the destroyed trust between government and people.
It is free in California.
Because it is subsidized by multi-trillion-dollar spending sprees.
No side effects with ivermectin; little to no risk, huge potential benefit.
Horrific side effects from covid vexxine with ~1% efficacy; huge risk, little benefit. Gee which one to choose?
“No side effects with ivermectin;”
Not true
https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/product-safety-information/faq-covid-19-and-ivermectin-intended-animals#:~:text=Some%20of%20the%20side%2Deffects,requiring%20hospitalization%20and%20liver%20injury%20(
“Horrific side effects from covid vexxine with ~1% efficacy; huge risk, little benefit. Gee which one to choose?”
Gee I had a sore arm…..
And what planet do you live on? 99+% of covid deaths are the unvaccinated. Yu don’t have to be too sharp to work that one out.
IF you think 99% of covid deaths are in the unvexxinated then you are gullible and sharp as a rock. For that particular talking point, people who have only received one vexxine are considered unvaccinated. Also, they lower the PCR cycle threshold to 28 for the vexxinated (from about 40 for unvexxinated), so the liklihood of a vexxinated person (whether having received one or 2 doses) testing positive for covid is minimal. If they even test vexxinated persons, which the CDC only recommends for hospitalized covid patients. So the data are absolutely worthless to be able to make the claim that 99% of covid cases are in the unvexxinated.
Whereas data from Israel and the UK show that most deaths occur in the vexxinated.
So, Ivermectin is an extremely safe drug on the WHO list of essential medicines, with some 4 billion doses given worldwide with no serious concerns, but is now dangerous if used for covid? No drug has zero side effects – if it is biologically active rather than a placebo, so the “No side effect” claim can only be an approximation.
https://www.hartgroup.org/ivermectin-works/
One of the top doctors in California who has been prescribing Ivermectin to his patients for about 40 years, says he has never had to send a patient to the hospital over an adverse reaction to Ivermectin.
That FDA warning is about veterinary products and/or overdoses, and its citation was not linked to a data source, the last time I looked, but merely to an unbacked claim. It’s scaremongering.
Par for the course for CNN-Simon.
The CDC in their great wisdom no longer tracks cases in people with the gene treatment.
Ergo, 100% are “unvaccinated”.
Free as in shared responsibility, as in shifted responsibility, as in sustainable progressive prices, as in inflation and redistributive change.
Free as in the price is not a prohibiting factor for people to have the vaccine. And nor should it be.
But… I heard one conspiracy theorist saying he wouldn’t have it because it was free. To him that was proof the government were trying to poison the masses.
Cite, CNN-Simon?
They are not free.
the tax payer is footing the bill.
“Take 2 hours after food or 1 hour before.”
That may be the recommendation for an anti-parasitic dose, so that it gets into the gut. The FLCCC and other ivermectin advocates recommend taking it with a fatty meal, like yogurt or olive oil, so that it gets into the stomach and thence the bloodstream..
What COVID Injections Do To Your BLOOD! Dr. Jane Ruby Releases Horrific Findings on Stew Peters
https://www.bitchute.com/video/NDEQM1ITpxPe/
Mumbo jumbo BS.
Glad you’re ignoring it.
Keep taking the ‘vaccines’.
Taken them and I’m fit and healthy.
That would certainly be hotly debated here at WUWT; at least your mental health! You are sounding more and more sociopathic; lying seems to be almost effortless for you now, and the lives and careers others seem to farther and farther from your concern! Get some help!
Mentally? I don’t think so
I don’t have to keep taking them. It is a one-time deal.
I described earlier in this thread how to scientifically prove that HCQ does not work. Some people applied that recipe to vaccines as well.
What do you know about hematology? That’s right, nothing. Go study it before calling BS on that video. Idiot!
The video of the shriveled red blood cells supports the finding in the paper by Prof. Dr. Pablo Campra Madrid (Chemistry, Biology), University of Almeria, Spain, that the main component of the COVID vaccines is graphene oxide – a poison. Now the incompetent Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration has approved the vaccines for children under 12 years of age !
Videos of people with magnets adhering to their skin also support the finding as graphene oxide has a magnetic component.
Apology, the Aus TGA has approved vaccines for children 12 to 15 years of age.
yeah pfizer which they halted trials on due to heart issues
WTF? were they thinking
skip that report the graphene IS used in many med products at NANOscale as a carrier for the drug and also antibacterial etc
ozspeaksup, graphene is pure carbon in the form of thin sheets. It also takes the form of coal or diamonds.
Graphene oxide is the chemical combination of carbon and oxygen. In its gaseous form it is carbon monoxide and we should all known how poisonous that is. Take a look at the modern studies of the properties of graphene oxide, oddly the authors all appear to have Chinese names. Has that got something to do with why it is in the COVID vaccines? Just why is it there, what property is it that causes it to be in the vaccines ?
Del Bigtree Dives into the Data; Dr. McCullough on the Vaccine, Delta Variant, and much more
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3soy73UzkCt0/
Why does stupidity always have to be the rule of the day?
When Will We FORCE A Stop To The BS? (with citations)
Covid-19 progression without (i.e. natural immunity) vaccination and fully immunized Democrat insurrection, symptoms, and transnational infection.
The Flag Is In Tatters
Remdesivir, “Recovery” trial, an expensive, ineffective alternative treatment.
Fauci and the AIDS vaccine.
Diamond Princess, 80% of the population is resistant (e.g. cross-reactive immunity, healthy body and recovery with immunity) to infection and disease progression.
A spike protein that is pathogenic. Non-sterilizing vaccines, excess adverse reactions (e.g. progressive viability (death), cardiac inflammation, menstrual dysfunction, neurological disorder), with unknown and perhaps forward-looking “benefits”. A science-based risk assessment that justifies experimental vaccines for emergency use in high risk populations (e.g. overweight, metabolically compromised, correlated with age).
Is Ivermectin the world’s greatest placebo?! OK we are told it doesn’t work, so hundreds of thousands of people who have taken it, have mistakenly believed they were cured. So there should be findings somewhere of people suddenly spontaneously relapsing, into full blown covid19, after a bit of a hiatus? Any sign? There should be cursing and denunciations! Lawsuits! The quaks at the coalface should be in trepidation. I haven’t heard of any, but there must be thousands of Drs around who have given IVM a try, found it didn’t work, and have spoken up?
Ivermectin, HCQ, etc, are proven ways to mitigate disease progression, thus enabling development of natural immunity, which seems to be keyed off the RNA encapsulation, rather than the spike protein chosen for the mRNA vaccines. With decades of use globally, with well-established safety profiles, affordable (without subsidy, shared responsibility), available, and effective, there is no viable position for vaccines. other than for emergency use in high risk populations (e.g. healthy at any weight).
You can follow events re ivermectin on reddit at https://www.reddit.com/r/ivermectin/new/
Other sites of interest are the FLCCC’s at https://covid19criticalcare.com/#
And TrialSite News, at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4tNlDJkV_YdwMErMRutt4A