Friday Funny: Andrew Dessler’s Self-citing Consensus

Andrew Dessler with a deer-in-the-headlights look when spotting Anthony Watts at AGU in 2018.

I don’t have a major social media presence. I’ve never even filled out my Twitter profile. One of the the people I try to occasionally engage is journalist and writer Andrew Revkin @Revkin.

I believe Andrew is honest and attempts to be objective but is trapped in a cognitive bubble and can’t even imagine the credibility flaws in the ideologically compromised institutions, in which he puts his blind faith. He is unable to perceive the real epistemological crisis occurring. I haven’t been particularly effective at reaching him as I tend to be Moshesque ala metaphors and brusqueness.

We recently had this exchange.

I started to reach Andrew using a cartoon from @CrustaceanSngls.

The reaction from Andrew was quite encouraging. I hoped he would connect the dots.

Then who burst onto the scene but activist Mini-Mann, Andrew Dessler. He very sanctimoniously poo-pooed this heretic questioning of expertise.

I don’t believe Andrew was expecting this sort of reply.

Another Twitter user jumped in.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2020/08/09/andy-desslers-bloopers/

There’s lots of Andrew Dessler’s embarrassments at the above link.

Andrew replied as did I, but I did not wish a long drawn out thread. I generally don’t.

So, to sum it up, in 1995, Dessler made a prediction. In 2011, the weather briefly aligned with his prediction. In my opinion he did a premature end zone dance and felt on top of the world. For the last ten years, again in my opinion, he likely is getting more and more bitter about Nature suggesting, leaning to, proving his predictions foolish.

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July 16, 2021 3:36 pm

Texas is having one of the wettest coolest Summers in living memory. I know that just weather, but then so was Dessler’s 2011 Texas Permadrought.

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Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 16, 2021 3:37 pm

and the Precip

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Editor
July 16, 2021 5:07 pm

Twitter is useless sanctimonious drivel being shoveled from one side of the driveway to the otherside, only to be shoveled back. I canceled my account. Useful content does not pack into 240 characters, or whatever they allow now.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Andy May
July 17, 2021 6:19 am

I never signed up to Twitter. When they first started up they set a limit of 140 characters for replies, and I couldn’t even get warmed up in 140 characters, so I didn’t see any point in my joining. And I’m glad I did. I probably wouldn’t have lasted long on Twitter anyway. They would have banned me quick.

Paul Johnson
July 16, 2021 7:16 pm

Perpetual Texas drought:

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Tom Abbott
Reply to  Paul Johnson
July 18, 2021 4:06 am

Good one! Yes, we’ve had plenty of rain in our area. We consider ourselves lucky if we get good rain this late in the summer.

John Hultquist
July 16, 2021 8:28 pm

 This from the UN:
“Almost two-thirds of over 1.2 million people surveyed worldwide say that climate change is a global emergency, urging greater action to address the crisis, results from a new UN climate survey revealed on Wednesday.”

Although this doesn’t say so, it seems the question relates to carbon base fuels, CO2, and radiative forcing.

There is a 97% probability that this global emergency consensus is wrong.  

Forrest Gardener
Reply to  John Hultquist
July 17, 2021 4:17 am

All those sub-clauses make that quite a proposition to attract a two thirds agreement. I wonder what the alternatives were?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  John Hultquist
July 19, 2021 10:21 am

Is this two-thirds a measure of the effectiveness of MSM propaganda?

Zeddy
July 16, 2021 9:02 pm

even broken clocks show correct time twice a day…

Brian J. BAKER
July 17, 2021 5:00 am

Emperor Marcus Aurelius “The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Brian J. BAKER
July 19, 2021 10:22 am

It seems that things haven’t changed much in two millennia.

July 17, 2021 5:10 am

When one understands that the Church of Warming/Climate is just a denomination of the main religion of Secular Socialism, whose deity is the government, then it is apparent that government scientists are little different than the educated clergy of yore when less than 10% of the peasants could read. The clergy provided the “science” of the day of the king’s right to rule by divine providence. The Church then got to share is the plunder of the peasants and the crown avoided the messy use of the sword as the peasants voluntarily gave up their liberty and property. Similarly, there is little difference between Joel Osteen and Al Gore.

Tom Abbott
July 17, 2021 5:38 am

From the article: “So, to sum it up, in 1995, Dessler made a prediction. In 2011, the weather briefly aligned with his prediction. In my opinion he did a premature end zone dance and felt on top of the world. For the last ten years, again in my opinion, he likely is getting more and more bitter about Nature suggesting, leaning to, proving his predictions foolish.”

I have to say that the summer of 2011 was one of the hottest I have experienced in Oklahoma. It was a severe heat wave for sure.

But, we haven’t had anything like that since, so Dessler thinking we were going to see more and more of that has been wrong for the last ten years.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 19, 2021 4:21 am

I think the older you are the less you believe the sort of claptrap Dessler spouts. I’ve lived in Michigan all my life and 2012 was a very hot year. But 1988 was also very hot, and I remember sometime in the 1960s it was extremely hot. If you predict hot weather you will be correct once in a while.

Scott snell
July 17, 2021 5:40 am

My impression of Desser is that he is an anxious, neurotic, mess, hooked on the spotlight, sort of like Michael Mann. Didn’t he predict that climate change would drive humans underground by 2100, or something like that?

If so, then not credible, period.

Sparko
July 17, 2021 6:02 am

You know all their behaviour can be described by cognitive dissonance,.including the arrival of self appointed mind guards to get the waverers back in line.

Robert Bradley
July 17, 2021 9:29 am

Here are my posts on the arrogant and often-to-wrong Andrew Dessler:

https://www.masterresource.org/?s=Andrew+Dessler

Robert Bradley
July 17, 2021 9:32 am

Malthusianism has always been the consensus–and see what Julian Simon did to the consensus?

Enron was also consensus–voted as America’s most innovative company for many years running. And Enron was banking on the climate consensus too, another story.

Jim Whelan
July 17, 2021 12:53 pm

Robustness of consensus depends upon what kind of claim is being made.

I guarantee that if it’s a politically based or charged claim then the consensus is wrong.

Tom Morrow
July 17, 2021 1:36 pm

Consensus is just another term for religious belief.

Without data and accurate models, your consensus amounts to an opinion.

MarkW
July 18, 2021 7:29 pm

Dr. Eugene Parker predicted the existence of a solar wind. This position was ridiculed by most astrophysicists of his day.
A few years later the first mission to Venus proved that the solar wind existed.