BBC Censors their Own Climate Change Page

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

The BBC has caved in to pressure from climate activists and academics, to remove any suggestion warmer temperatures might bring benefits to people living in Britain.

BBC removes Bitesize page on climate change ‘benefits’ after backlash

Study website made claims including warmer temperatures ‘could lead to healthier outdoor lifestyles’

Helena Horton
Fri 2 Jul 2021 20.43 AEST

The BBC has removed an educational page laying out the “benefits” of climate change after a furious online reaction.

BBC Bitesize, its website for schoolchildren, claimed warmer temperatures “could lead to healthier outdoor lifestyles” and that a benefit of climate change could mean easier access to oil in Alaska and Siberia.

Other apparent benefits highlighted by the BBC included the ability to one day grow more crops in Siberia, new shipping routes created by melting ice, and more tourist destinations.

After a backlash from climate experts and campaigners, including the Guardian writer George Monbiot, the page, aimed at year 10 students, was amended to only include the negative impacts of climate change.

Monbiot tweeted: “This is what @bbcbitesize is teaching our children about climate breakdown. I’m sorry, but it’s an absolute disgrace. You could come away thinking: ‘on balance, it sounds pretty good’.”

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In today’s Britain, it looks like you cannot say anything positive about climate change – even if it is true.

Update (EW): h/t martywd – The following appears to be the original BBC Bitesize climate change page, listing the benefits of a warmer climate (click here to see a full page version of the original content).

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John Tillman
July 2, 2021 2:07 pm

The revolution yet again eats its children.

Meanwhile, UAH June data are out.

March, April and June were all negative anomalies, with May only 0.08.

“Despite the near-normal global average temperatures, the USA Lower 48 temperature anomaly of +1.44 deg. C was the warmest in the 43 year satellite record, ahead of +1.15 deg. C in 1988. In contrast, the Antarctic region (poleward of 60 S latitude) experienced its 2nd coldest June (-1.25 deg. C below the 30-year baseline), behind -1.34 deg. C in June, 2017.”

Sounds right. It has been colder than normal here in central Chile, as was last winter.

Downtrend from February 2016 still very much intact.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  John Tillman
July 2, 2021 5:49 pm

“Despite the near-normal global average temperatures…”

How many utterly meaningless “Global average temperatures” are there?

oebele bruinsma
Reply to  John Tillman
July 2, 2021 11:52 pm
July 2, 2021 2:13 pm

“Monbiot tweeted: “This is what @bbcbitesize is teaching our children about climate breakdown. I’m sorry, but it’s an absolute disgrace. You could come away thinking: ‘on balance, it sounds pretty good’.”

I absolutely agree with him (a first time for everything), it does sound pretty good !!

M Courtney
Reply to  saveenergy
July 2, 2021 4:18 pm

Well that’s the problem.
They can either explain why the benefits will be outweighed by the downsides and win the debate…
Or they can silence any mention of the benefits so as they avoid the debate.

Why seek the laurels of victory if you know you will lose?

These campaigners have studied the issue. They know they have exaggerated the scientific certainty of disaster. They know they are lying.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  M Courtney
July 2, 2021 4:28 pm

Moonbat is really not that clever.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 3, 2021 5:10 am

I have come to the conclusion the world is in a state of cognitive dysfunction. They are told not to believe their own experiences, instead absorbing what they are told is the “human experience” or somesuch. This disconnect between their beliefs and their observations, is leading the general population to psychosis, and to admit to their mistake in one area, would force them to confront every other belief they may hold dear. It’s easier to turn on the telly and see “what’s news”.
I say this not to deride, I feel we must help our fellow citizens. I find it so sad that the psychologists are flocking to jobs in climastrology, covidiocy and “news analysis”, but so far, the closest we got to a behaviourist trying to “deprogramme” the masses, is John Ward, a retired advertising executive type, slogging away at his lonesome keyboard, proving “It’s All Bollocks and That’s Official”.
Why are there no honest headshrinkers to join our side? If you know one, work on them!

B Clarke
Reply to  paranoid goy
July 3, 2021 9:09 am

Why are there no honest headshrinkers to join our side? If you know one, work on them!”


Reply to  B Clarke
July 3, 2021 12:36 pm

The BBC is owned by the British Government. All government employees are required, on pain of dimissal, to toe the goverment line that “H2O ……. er …. CO2 ….. causes CAGW.”

Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 4, 2021 12:11 am

“they’re just waiting for the hard evidence to catch up with what they know in their hearts is true.”


That’s why they openly wish for *frightening* evidence.

They’re too dim, innumerate and illiterate to wonder how that might come across to normal people.

If evidence is information that changes the likelihood of a hypothesis, every scientist worth her salt, and the average above-average muggle, grasps that you can’t hope for evidence for hypothesis H without thereby hoping H is true

The only exception is if you somehow “know” it’s true already, and the evidence you seek is merely a means to persuade the townsfolk that the monster is real.

But once you put the cart of belief before the horse of evidence you’re doing ecneics, not science.

Reply to  saveenergy
July 2, 2021 4:18 pm

In their mind the BBC has committed heresy. They will have to repent and atone for their egregious sins against the Church of Scientism.

Reply to  saveenergy
July 3, 2021 2:35 am

Perish the thought that Moonbat would come away balanced from reading the Beeb. What breakthrough have I missed from Big Pharma?

Mark BLR
Reply to  saveenergy
July 3, 2021 4:32 am

You could come away thinking: ‘on balance, it sounds pretty good’.

I can’t seem to find it on the Internet right now, but wasn’t one of the reactions by an (elderly / older ?) “expert geologist” to a Arthur Holmes (/ Harry Hess ???) lecture on “continental drift” in the 1950s something like :
“It looks so reasonable that students might end up believing it to be true !”

If anyone with better search engine skills than mine can come up with a link to that (possibly apocryphal ?) quote it would be much appreciated.

NB : A decade later they renamed it “plate tectonics” and the paradigm finally shifted. That may help explain why “alarmists” keep trying different names for the same thing, using the eternal “throw everything against the wall and see what sticks” methodology.

Rich Davis
Reply to  saveenergy
July 3, 2021 6:06 am

Moonbat is afraid that normal people will come to that obvious conclusion and refuse to be herded into a dystopian communist tyranny.

B Clarke
July 2, 2021 2:22 pm
Reply to  B Clarke
July 3, 2021 8:35 am

I used to teach a subject called Modern Studies. That was in Scotland. A key feature of answering questions in Modern Studies was the ability to examine both sides of an issue. eg. What are the arguments for and against the First-Past-the-Post electoral system. Pupils had to know the arguments on both sides and be able to assess the arguments. Seems like some people only want pupils to be able to look at one side of an issue. No wonder Scotland’s education system is in such a poor state.

B Clarke
Reply to  Alba
July 3, 2021 9:01 am

The middle, professional and working classes are all being lied to, by a political elite with agendas, some of the middle,professional classes and no doubt a minority of working classes see through the lies, the professional classes eg teachers are threatened by various means to tow the agenda line,you can’t show two sides of a agenda,we see this in climate change( the science is settled) we see this with covid.

Fear is keeping the professional classes silent, loss of income,blackballed, no independent press.

What are they going to do how do you over come suppression? Because thats what it is. Welcome to 2021 world wide nazi tactics in full swing.

Ed Hanley
July 2, 2021 2:23 pm

Add to the news maxim, “If it bleeds, it leads.” the media imperative, “If it doesn’t scare, we don’t care.”

A fearful population is easily controlled. A hopeful population could easily get out of hand and start doing some good in the world, beyond your ability to stop them.

Reply to  Ed Hanley
July 2, 2021 4:23 pm

Fear is the mind killer.

The relentless drum beat of fear at just the right level to spike cortisol levels could not be better designed to keep large masses of people under control.

July 2, 2021 2:31 pm

”I’m sorry, but it’s an absolute disgrace. You could come away thinking: ‘on balance, it sounds pretty good’.” George Monbiot.

So isn’t it better to show a little optimism for kids??? No wonder there is so much mental illness among them with idiots like Monbiot preaching unnecessary doom and gloom. That’s what is an absolute disgrace.

Reply to  aussiecol
July 2, 2021 4:07 pm

The ChiComFlu isn’t the only reason kids are killing themselves, as the Misleadia continue to blame them for existing.

Hal McCombs
Reply to  Kpar
July 2, 2021 7:11 pm

“Misleadia”. My new favorite word.

July 2, 2021 2:34 pm

Now let’s see plots of Chinese household wealth with CO2 emissions and another one showing Chinese wealth and incomes overtaking British incomes.

John Tillman
Reply to  ResourceGuy
July 2, 2021 2:59 pm

The richest 60 million Chinese are a lot wealthier per capita than the UK. But they’re only about 1/24 of the Mainland population. By PPP vs. GDP, Taiwan is way ahead of the UK, Hong Kong even more so, and Singapore off the charts.

Reply to  John Tillman
July 2, 2021 3:13 pm

The richest 4% of the Chinese are richer than the average UK’er.
I’m pretty sure you could take the top 4% of pretty much any country, and that would still be true.

John Tillman
Reply to  MarkW
July 2, 2021 4:05 pm

But in how many countries would that be true of the entire population of Britain?

And it would probably extend a lot farther down scale in China than just the top 4%.

IMO it’s quite possible that the richest 330 million Mainland Chinese are richer on average than Americans.

Would be happy to be shown wrong with current valid data.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
July 2, 2021 4:36 pm

However “wealth” be measured.

July 2, 2021 2:36 pm

And there is that:

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First half year 2021(left) global colder than 2020 (right)

Reply to  Krishna Gans
July 2, 2021 4:11 pm

In UAH, year to date, 2021 is in 12th position.

Below all the previous 6 years, and below 1998, 2002, 2005, 2007, 2010.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Krishna Gans
July 3, 2021 6:18 am

Krishna don’t you read German? 🙂

2020 is links, 2021 is rechts.

B Clarke
July 2, 2021 2:38 pm

Dare to question a man has been charged with common assault after daring to question whitty the professor who advise the government on covid,

The link with wuwt article, no one can question the government narrative.

Common assault in the UK can mean as little as touching someone, if you don’t touch don’t worry you can be done for harassment or intimidation, you can not question the narrative,

1930s Germany, were back.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  B Clarke
July 3, 2021 1:36 am

In fact, ‘assault’ can be merely raising a fist. That is why it is termed ‘assault and battery’ if the threatened attack is actually made.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  B Clarke
July 3, 2021 10:54 am

It sounds like Canada is heading towards 1984, too.

B Clarke
Reply to  Tom Abbott
July 3, 2021 3:35 pm

Yes Tom all the G7 members ,Eu all reading from the same book.

Michael in Dublin
July 2, 2021 2:42 pm

Some time ago I read about Scotland – in I think the 13th century – that experienced unseasonably warmer weather for a good part of that century. Farming flourished and the lives of the inhabitants improved. This was documented at the time. Sorry I cannot find the link but perhaps one of Wattsup readers has a link. Historical records and journals often go against the alarmist narrative giving us clearer insights than ice cores and tree rings.

John Tillman
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
July 2, 2021 3:03 pm

It’s clear from population growth that farming flourished in the balmy Medieval Warm Period, setting up Europeans for a fall when the Black Death struck in 1347.

July 2, 2021 2:47 pm

The Marxists have declared 2021 their century to take over everything. To that end only fearmongering is allowed. AGW is only part of the picture.

Reply to  markl
July 2, 2021 2:55 pm

Followed by COV-19

Pillage Idiot
Reply to  Krishna Gans
July 2, 2021 3:18 pm

I think the most dangerous virus currently circulating in the human population is CAGW-21.

The people infected with this virus suffer from a delusion that humans living in Stone Age conditions would be preferable our current conditions.

Reply to  Pillage Idiot
July 2, 2021 3:33 pm

No to (k)illing

Reply to  Krishna Gans
July 2, 2021 3:36 pm

imagine there’s no cancer
no diabetes too
no heart disease to die for
there’s nothing wrong with you

imagine all the COVID
(k)illing us today…

you may say i’m a schemer
but i’m not the only one
someday you will be the screamer
when the reset has begun

Reply to  markl
July 3, 2021 1:48 am

What utter nonsense.

There aren’t any Marxists outside China who have any influence at all any more.

climate science has nothing to do with ‘marxism’

And you know, if the Marxists were really out there with a sinister plot – they really are doing one heck of a bad job at world takeover.

Forrest Gardener
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 3:04 am

Thanks Griff. When you say something is wrong it is a dead certainty to be right.

Keep up the good work. But your comedy days were better.

Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 3:08 am

As usual got it back the front

There aren’t any Marxists INSIDE China who have any influence at all any more.

Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 5:25 am

…(Marxists) really are doing one heck of a bad job at world takeover.

That has always been the Bolshevik’s argument: “If we are so powerful, why aren’t we running the world?”
As they manipulate interest rates, commodity prices, the meaning of words, the target/s of our anger, the latest wisdom on face nappies and Carbon Dioxide poisoning…

Rich Davis
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 6:24 am

Impeccable Baghdad Bob imitation!

Reply to  Rich Davis
July 5, 2021 12:47 am

Shouldn’t that be Badgag Bob?

Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 7:45 am

When Marxists find Marxism to be discredited, they start calling themselves something else.
They don’t change the philosophy, just the label.
And the willfully ignorant buy it.

B Clarke
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 9:15 am

Griff your romanticism of Marxism is in the past ,modern day Marxism is not clear cut,black and white.

Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 11:35 am

And the EU is what??
Griff the nutter is in denial!

EU exists to redistribute money from the richest to the poorest since enlargement took place in 2005.

The result?
Greece blew a fabulous amount of cheap money.
The Eastern Europeans (as usual) felt entitled to the vast amounts of free cash same as in USSR..and blew it all.
Spain and Italy blew huge amounts more.

The UK left in disgust partially fuelled by Margaret’s theories of a socialist “scam”, Teflon Tony lied, Gordon the moron got kicked out on the “biased woman” scandal, Ca-moron insisted he could change it, May flunked it….

Bojo surfed it and became yet another socialist, climate scammer moron thanks to his uncontrollable dick!

Margaret was right. the EU SSR exists to redistribute cash on a socialist – marxist ticket.

Mark E Shulgasser
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 6:58 pm

Marxism simply predicts that the inevitable collapse of the capitalist economic system will precede the establishment of a world authoritarian totalitarianism of some sort, a “dictatorship of the people” — that is, a dictatorship “over” the people.

Reply to  markl
July 5, 2021 9:28 am

Wasnt’ 2021 the “21” part of Agenda 21?

July 2, 2021 3:48 pm

I’m sure Facebook/Twitter/YouTube would not allow links to the BBC article, anyway. Or if they did, they would surround the link with plenty of “dangerous/hateful/misinformation” warnings.

Hal McCombs
Reply to  PaulH
July 2, 2021 7:17 pm

I copied and pasted an article from the CDC and Farcebook said their factcheckers called it “partially false. The factcheckers were the Washington Post and the LA times.

Reply to  PaulH
July 3, 2021 7:47 am

Facebook has started a new program. A number of people, when they log on are getting pop-up warnings that they have been exposed to political extremism. The pop-up provides a link to a left wing site labels something like After Hate.

July 2, 2021 3:53 pm

I’m sorry, but it’s an absolute disgrace.

Yes moonbat, basically everything on the BBC is an absolute disgrace. !

Gotta erase that one little bit of reality, though. 😉

July 2, 2021 4:02 pm

Anything less than the masses starving in the cold and the dark is unacceptable.

July 2, 2021 4:14 pm

We sceptics have got to stop deluding ourselves that combating this disease with science alone is enough.

We need our own pressure and propaganda groups.

Sceptical Science has spent the last 50 years believing science would see off these totalitarian crackpots, but all it takes is a few morons like Monbiot and Gore to scupper everything we achieve.

Covid should be our opportunity to respond, not theirs to hijack. There are now hundreds of thousands marching in the streets of London every weekend, but like the French gilets jaunes movement, it’s stifled by the MSM.

Where are the sceptical PR experts, political strategists and journalists, and why aren’t they getting their heads together to create our own pressure groups?

The left are full of devious tactics, if we on the right can’t come up with something to confront them then we damn well deserve to lose this battle. We perceive the left as stupid, but we’re not even stupid enough to think one step ahead of them!

Reply to  Eric Worrall
July 5, 2021 9:31 am

Not “Propaganda” corps, Eric, but PR, certainly.

Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  HotScot
July 2, 2021 9:46 pm

Isn’t it obvious? Warmer Is Better. More warmth, less cold, longer growing seasons, more rain, more bio-productivity, more growth, more green, more summer, less winter, etc. etc.

When the BBC accidentally stated the obvious, the Moonbat crowd went into paroxysms, wept and moaned, cancelled themselves, and generally went bonkers.

Because it’s true. Imagine Scotland with one more week of summer. It’s not much, but hey it sure can’t hurt. The kids won’t mind.

Warmer Is Better. Try it. Drives the lemmings over the cliff.

Zig Zag Wanderer
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
July 3, 2021 1:41 am

Imagine Scotland with one more week of summer.

Now you’re just fantasising. Doubling the length of the Scottish summer?

Rich Davis
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
July 3, 2021 6:32 am

Now don’t exaggerate Zig!

Rich Davis
Reply to  Mike Dubrasich
July 3, 2021 6:31 am

So you mean 8 whole days of summer in Scotland? Think what you’re suggesting man! The suffering!

Tony Taylor
July 2, 2021 4:27 pm

Oh, so it’s climate “breakdown” now.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Tony Taylor
July 3, 2021 12:22 am

Just for the moment! Be aware though of the constant eco-recycling of words like “breakdown, disaster, crisis, catastrophe, armageddon, emergency, etc!!!

July 2, 2021 4:54 pm

fwiw, I believe this was the bbc article before the “correction“.


July 2, 2021 4:57 pm

With a bit of luck, some more Global Warming could add Northern Britain and Scotland back into the area habitable by human beings.

Rich T.
July 2, 2021 4:58 pm

Too bad the BBC couldn’t be CENSORED so we would not have to hear them again in any form.

July 2, 2021 5:37 pm

Don’t forget that Willis tried to find their Climate EMERGENCY in April 2021 and looked at so much of the data and couldn’t find it.
And Dr Rosling’s BBC 200 countries over 200 years VIDEO couldn’t find it either. IN FACT THE REVERSE IS OBVIOUSLY TRUE.
When will these dopey fools WAKE UP?

July 2, 2021 6:02 pm

Photosynthesis: Plants/Plankton turning Sunlight/CO2/H2O into Food/O2; neither animal nor blade of grass would exist, absent CO2. More CO2 helps plants resist drought/damage/disease, extends growing seasons, lets plants move higher in altitude & Latitudes, shrinks deserts & reduces the spread of fire, plants using & retaining H2O more efficiently. As CO2 rises, photosynthesis flourishes & plants take in more CO2, sparking more growth, photosynthesis & CO2 uptake. For 75% of the last 500,000 years, CO2 was 2 to 15 times higher.
Rising temperatures also extend growing seasons, help babies survive, increase net rainfall & save lives.
This Cradle of Life is greener, more fertile & life sustaining than it was 50 years ago.

Joel O'Bryan
July 2, 2021 6:34 pm

More evidence Climate Change is based on a pagan religious faith and not science.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 3, 2021 12:25 am

Agenda 21 no less!!! Manipulation, control, domination!!! Orwell must be revolving rapidly in his grave!!!

Reply to  Alan the Brit
July 3, 2021 1:50 am

Agenda 21 is a conspiracy theory with no basis in fact. I have been reading about it for over a decade now and still see no evidence of it having any material existence or effect

Forrest Gardener
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 3:09 am

So there we have it. Griff says it is a conspiracy theory so it must have substance.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Forrest Gardener
July 3, 2021 6:38 am

griff, the logical NOT operator

Whatever is true he calls false. Whatever is false, he calls true.

Right-Handed Shark
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 3:57 am
Reply to  Right-Handed Shark
July 5, 2021 9:37 am

But that’s not EVIDENCE, Shark! /s

Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 5:37 am

griff my boy, now you’re not even being honest with yourself. Agenda21 is an actual UN programme! It’s where they decided “education is an unsustainable activity”!
All of your AGW sheeet comes straight from that document. You are either ignorant, or complicit.
From your historic behaviour, I vote for the second. …and too programmed to realise you’re paid to troll a site with people who can read without moving their lips!
Jeez, dude, that was even below your level. I’ve run out of exclamation marks.1
Here’s Agenda21 as rephrased at Davos in 2019:

George Daddis
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 6:22 am

California’s high speed train was based on Agenda 21 principles; that is, high rise buildings that contained apartments, offices, shopping and recreation at “nodes” in select areas and high speed transit between nodes.
Why? because cars, highways and suburbs in general are “bad” per Agenda 21.
The assumption being “If we build it they will come.”

Even after it died, the corpse has been resurrected by Ol Joe. Never let a bad idea go to waste.

That unquestionably was a “material impact”.

Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 7:49 am

The mere fact that they are an official organization, they even have members and a web page, is irrelevant.
griff says they are just a conspiracy theory, so they don’t exist.

Another Joe
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 8:20 am

If you read about it, then you have not read it yet!

Reply to  griff
July 5, 2021 9:36 am

No basis in fact, other than it being published by the UN (you’ve been given links in the past). But that’s not evidence to those who choose not to see.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 3, 2021 1:49 am

Nonsense! climate science is based on science… objections to climate science based on ‘it is a marxist/leftist plot’ or similar, on the other hand… that’s a religion, right?

Forrest Gardener
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 3:10 am

You’re in top form Griff. Keep going and you’ll bring the whole climate alarm scam down single handed.

Rich Davis
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 6:43 am

There’s that logical NOT in action. Thanks for the demonstration griff.

Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 7:50 am

Climate models are not science.

Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
July 5, 2021 9:33 am

Neo-pagan, not pagan. Classic pagans believe mother earth is far more powerful than we are.

Gordon A. Dressler
July 2, 2021 6:43 pm

The last Glacial Maximum was around 22,000 years ago when much of Europe was covered in ice.

During the ice age, which ended about 11,500 years ago, ice covered about 30 per cent of the land in the world.

In Britain, glacial ice and waterflows spread as far south as the Bristol Channel.

Average temperatures were 5°C (8°F) colder than they are today, allowing a one-kilometre-thick sheet of ice to cover much of the country.

The temperature remained below 0°C all year round in northern regions, particularly Scotland, allowing the sheet to remain on the land all year.

Ice connected Britain with Scandinavia, allowing a host of large wildlife to roam free between the UK and mainland Europe . . .

Large glacial lakes covered Manchester, Doncaster, Newcastle and Peterborough and much of the country was uninhabitable for humans . . .

All of Ireland was covered in ice, which was flowing through the Irish sea where it met Welsh ice and then flowed south toward the Isles of Scilly.

Much of Scotland, Wales, the midlands and northern England was covered in perpetual ice.

Cambridge, which was covered by a huge glacial lake, was the most southern region to be heavily affected by the icy climate.

Over time the ice and its hefty waterflows carved out the land of Britain, forming geological scars that can still be seen today.

These include glacial ridges sculpted by moving ice and winding flows of rock that travelled for miles across the country.”

-source of the above italicized text: (my underlining emphasis added above)

A point often missed: Without global warming, human civilization as we know it today would not exist.

And people wonder if there are any beneficial results from global warming???

Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
July 3, 2021 1:51 am

Well that’s a different thing from current rapid warming and its effects on our current civilisation. Isn’t it?

Forrest Gardener
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 3:11 am

You’re on fire Griff!

Reply to  Forrest Gardener
July 3, 2021 7:52 am

At least his pants are.

Rich Davis
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 6:47 am

Rapid warming? Here it is 3 July and it’s 19C in Connecticut.

I know that’s a deadly heatwave to you Brits, but we Yanks prefer our Rebellion Day to be hot.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Rich Davis
July 3, 2021 8:18 am

Typo: it’s 16c for a high here today.

Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 7:51 am

I’m still looking for this rapid warming that has griff’s panties in such a knot.
Less than 1C over 160 years is not rapid.

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 9:37 am


What effects?

Please show that you’re not just a troll by providing your specific, quantitative definition of “climate change,” since you appear to be worried about current civilization.

Take heed . . . one of my favorite quotes:
“If you can’t define something you have no formal rational way of knowing that it exists. Neither can you really tell anyone else what it is. There is, in fact, no formal difference between inability to define and stupidity.” — Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

Gordon A. Dressler
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
July 5, 2021 10:07 am

As expected, 48 hours have passed without griff replying to my simple request.

This, despite his fondness for peppering WUWT with numerous comments to various articles.

Hence, we have all the evidence needed to reveal that he has the character defined by Pirsig’s quote, as well as meeting the definition of a troll.

Reply to  griff
July 5, 2021 9:38 am

What temperature SHOULD it be, griff?

July 2, 2021 7:28 pm

Jo Nova links to a story from the Guardian where they point out that 5 Asian countries are planning to build another 600 coal power stns.
Yet our dopey pollies, MSM and OECD countries seem to prefer to believe in delusional fairy stories and insist we build TOXIC, UNRELIABLE S&W disasters FOREVER.
Obviously Aussies should be building more RELIABLE CF stns as soon as possible and save our environment ABOVE and BELOW the ground for hundreds of years.

Reply to  Neville
July 3, 2021 1:55 am

Well here’s a detailed summary of developments in Asian coal:

Bangladesh plans to scrap nine new coal projects as the cost of imported coal rises and overseas investors slash finance for polluting fossil fuels. The country’s power secretary Habibur Rahma decided to axe the planned coal-fired power plants with a combined power capacity of 7,461 MW at a monthly review meeting of the power sector

Coal-fired power generation in South Korea is expected to decrease by 23pc by 2030 from 2019’s level, under the government’s ninth basic electricity plan.  South Korea’s last new coal power project in Gangwon Province is facing renewed scrutiny as civic activists called for a state audit against Korean financial institutions for allegedly overlooking and condoning risk factors in financing the private-led project, dubbed Samcheok Blue Power Plant.

Vietnam is moving ahead with plans to “limit” the development of coal-fired power stations in the next phase of growth in its electricity sector. The move is part of a long-term strategy to give a boost to cleaner sources of energy and lift overall investments in the country’s power sector. Japanese trading house Mitsubishi Corp has since decided to withdraw from the Vinh Tan 3 coal-fired power plant project in Vietnam amid growing international concern about climate change.

Last year, the Japanese government signalled it will decommission about 100 inefficient coal-fired power units. It aims to reduce coal’s share of the power mix to 26% by 2030 – down from 32% in the 2018 financial year. Japan’s biggest power generator JERA said in October it will shut down all inefficient coal-fired power plants in Japan by 2030 and it aims to achieve net zero emissions of carbon dioxide by 2050 to tackle climate change. Closing inefficient coal power stations is in line with government policy but this was the first time a power company declared an intention to match that policy. By 2030, JERA aims to cut 20% more carbon emission intensity of thermal power plants than the government’s current reduction target for those plants across the nation. And new build is also seeing cancellations: Osaka Gas withdrew plans to build a 1.2 gigawatt (GW) coal plant in Yamaguchi Prefecture. Tokyo Gas, Kyushu Electric and Idemitsu also abandoned plans to build a 2GW coal plant in Chiba Prefecture near Tokyo. In total, 30% of planned investment in coal power has been scrapped since 2016.

Japan’s top coal power producer J-Power canceled the construction of a power plant in Yamaguchi Prefecture, the company said in April, as it works to curb its dependence on the fossil fuel amid growing regulatory pressures. “We have decided against construction upon considering the project’s profitability,” J-Power Director Hitoshi Kanno said. “We will take advantage of our existing facilities to curb carbon dioxide emissions with as little costs as possible.” J-Power had planned to install two 600-megawatt coal-fired facilities in the city of Ube with Japanese chemical manufacturer Ube Industries and Osaka Gas. Osaka Gas withdrew from the project in April 2019, saying it no longer believed it could recoup the investment. J-Power and Ube had since downsized plans to a single 600-MW unit, and were considering using cutting-edge environmental equipment and other options to move forward with the project. But coal, which is carbon-intensive even compared with other fossil fuels, has faced increasing headwinds as Japan and other leading economies ramp up their fight against climate change. Japan aims to achieve net-zero carbon emissions by 2050.

As part of Japan’s push to curb emissions and shut down inefficient facilities, the economy ministry plans to require all coal power plants to achieve an efficiency rate of 43% by 2030.
in November 2020, the Philippines’ Department of Energy proposed a moratorium on new coal power plants which, according to analysis by GEM, could lead to 9.6GW of cancellations. The Philippine government is as of April 2021 looking to set up a fund to acquire all coal-fired power plants in Mindanao and shut them down in a bid to make the island heavily reliant on renewable-energy resources.

At present the latest round of cancellations in Japan mean there are no new power stations proposed other than those in active development

Adding in proposed project cancellations in Indonesia, GEM estimates that the coal power pipeline in South and Southeast Asia’s four major emerging economies may have dropped by as much as 62GW in 2020. That leaves just 25GW under development, an 80% decline from just five years ago. 

Coal development continues to collapse elsewhere in Asia, GEM suggests, with Bangladesh, the Philippines, Vietnam and Indonesia announcing plans to cut up to 62GW of planned coal power. GEM researchers estimate that these closures would leave 25.2GW of coal power capacity remaining in pre-construction phase in the four countries – a massive 80 per cent reduction from the 125.5GW that was planned there just five years ago, in 2015.

Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 7:53 am

I see griff is still trying to claim that press releases matter more than what these countries are actually doing.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 8:34 am

Well in 2020 China put 38.4GW of new coal fired capacity into operation though its fleet capacity rose only by 29.8GW due to closures.

It also approved construction of a further 36.9GW bringing the total under construction to 88.1GW and coal power under development to 247GW.

Even if some of that development does not happen China alone has effectively replaced the GW reduction in the countries you mentioned.

And then there’s India.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 8:53 am

Oh and Griff don’t forget that wind turbines require a lot of STEEL. Around 260 tonnes I believe which need 170 tonnes of coking coal to produce. As China is effectively the world’s wind turbine producer it is no wonder that it needs to continue to increase its coal fired capacity.

B Clarke
Reply to  griff
July 3, 2021 9:26 am

And where did you read that, on the back of a envelope at cop 25 stuffed full of bribes so the cop people can announce to the gullible every ones on board, really griff have you not yet learned how the world works,your being lied to,and you believe it.

Peta of Newark
July 2, 2021 8:59 pm

and if this doesn’t say it all, what does….

QuoteThe BBC said on Friday: “We have reviewed the page and have amended the content to be in line with current curricula.”
The guide, which is aimed at GCSE geography students, now only shows the negative impacts of climate change”

It was published from BBC’s ‘Entertainment and Arts Section would you have it

Quote from the Quote: “current curricula” “only shows negative

Speaks volumes: There’s nothing wrong with climate and everything wrong with them

Geoff Sherrington
Reply to  Peta of Newark
July 3, 2021 4:37 am

But you must know about the climate control knob that now goes to minus eleven.
Geoff S

Vincent Causey
July 3, 2021 12:19 am

Ha ha. George Monbiot just admitted that on balance it “sounds pretty good.” Yes it does George, unless you only show the negative bits – that’s called propaganda. So the BBC should stick to propaganda and the alarmists will not be outraged.

July 3, 2021 12:28 am

My tomatoes refuse to grow when its below 50 deg F. My tomatoes did not get the memo from George Monbiot. When I told them what he said, they all agreed that he is a disgrace.

Climate believer
July 3, 2021 1:20 am

Defund the BBC. Everybody gets to keep 160 quid in their pocket and help put an end to this lefty propaganda machine.

July 3, 2021 1:26 am

This is lifted directly from the report,
Climate expert and writer George Monbiot called the list, which has now been removed, “an absolute disgrace”.”
since when has Monbiot been a climate expert?

Rich Davis
Reply to  JohnC
July 3, 2021 6:54 am

Climate expert and Logical NOT griff agrees.

Zig Zag Wanderer
July 3, 2021 1:31 am

You could come away thinking: ‘on balance, it sounds pretty good’

Wouldn’t it be terrible if, when presented with all the facts instead of skewed biased opinions, people actually realised that it not all bad? Absolutely, so let’s squash ALL positive aspects!

Ed Zuiderwijk
July 3, 2021 4:30 am

People who object to truth are beyond stupid. They are evil.

Rod Evans
July 3, 2021 5:28 am

The BBC have been persuaded (willingly) to adopt the completely green mandate of Climate Alarmism which is.
“If you haven’t got something negative to say about Man Made Climate Change then don’t say anything”

George Daddis
Reply to  Rod Evans
July 3, 2021 6:40 am

You may have been sarcastic, but remember that statement is very close to Schneider’s remarks in Atlantic magazine concerning “uncertainty” in CAGW and scientists’ individual consciences on how to deal with it. We now know which way they leaned.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Rod Evans
July 3, 2021 7:00 am

Bambi’s dad’s directive passed through the griff Logical NOT.

Bambi’s mom: What did your father tell you?

Bambi: if you can’t say something nice, don’t say nothin’ at all.

BBC: What did Moonbat tell you?

griff: If you can’t say something negative, don’t say nothin’ at all.

Reply to  Rich Davis
July 3, 2021 7:55 am

Small correction, that was Thumper, not Bambi.

Rich Davis
Reply to  MarkW
July 3, 2021 6:27 pm

Right you are. Thumper’s dad’s advice, as recounted by Thumper rabbit, from Disney’s Bambi.

July 3, 2021 10:54 am

Also from the BBC, mining to drive the green revolution in the U.K.

July 7, 2021 1:08 am

I complained to the BBC, particularly the characterisation of Monbiot as a climate expert.
This is their reply:

Thank you for contacting us about the article titled, ‘BBC Bitesize edits page to remove list of climate change ‘benefits’ on the BBC News website. 

BBC News takes its editorial responsibility seriously when reporting on climate change.

We acknowledge the weight of scientific consensus around climate change and this underpins all of our reporting of the subject. The scientific community has reached a significant consensus on man-made global warming. We therefore reflect that with due weight when reporting on the science involved.

This does not mean, however, that we should never interview someone who opposes this consensus, especially if they are influential in the political debate about how to tackle climate change. There are times when it is editorially appropriate to hear from a dissenting voice.

There’s no obligation to include an alternative viewpoint within each and every individual article. Rather, we achieve due impartiality on the political angles – when required – over a reasonable period of time. The merit of doing so is decided by the editor with the specific context in mind on each occasion.

Nevertheless, we appreciate your concerns regarding our approach to reporting on Climate Change on this occasion and we note that you may continue to feel it was inappropriate to refer to George Monbiot as a “Climate expert”.

We do value your feedback about this. All complaints are sent to senior management and we’ve included your points in our overnight report. 

These reports are among the most widely read sources of feedback in the company and ensures that your concerns have been seen by the right people quickly. This helps inform their decisions about current and future content.

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