Goofy Greens and Regulators Threaten Nuclear Revival

By Duggan Flanakin

April 16, 2024

Despite its commitment to “no more gas, oil, or coal,” Friends of the Earth has launched a campaign against one of the nation’s “greenest” governors, California’s Gavin Newsom. Their goal? To stop the U.S. Department of Energy from doling out $1 billion to keep the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant (no gas, oil, or coal there) open past its planned 2025 closure date.

Newsom, whose policies are among the world’s most aggressive against gasoline- and diesel-powered vehicles and tools, last year stated that, “the Diablo Canyon power plant is important to support energy reliability as we accelerate progress towards achieving our clean energy and climate goals.” Diablo Canyon today supplies nearly a tenth of California’s electricity.

The aptly named FOE claims that “the environmental impacts from extending the lifespan of this aging power plant at this point in time have not been adequately addressed or disclosed to the public.” Other groups, too, spread fear about nuclear energy. But by far the most powerful obstacle for nuclear energy enthusiasts to overcome lies within the federal government.

While nuclear energy has accounted for about 20% of the electricity generated in the U.S., and in 2023 supplied nearly half the nation’s carbon-free electricity, a new report from the Government Accountability Office says the Nuclear Regulatory Commission must more fully consider possible impacts of climate change on the nation’s mostly aging nuclear power plants.

The message? The GAO report says that climate-related threats to nuclear power plants range from worsened droughts that dry up water supplies needed for cooling reactors to sea level rise and storm surge flooding. Despite its regulatory obtuseness, the report said the NRC should include “data” from future climate projections [scary scenarios?] in safety risk assessments along with the historical data the NRC relies upon. All this adds costs.

Douglas McIntyre, the former editor-in-chief of 24/Wall St., last month said that, despite the obvious need for nuclear power, “many Americans, perhaps remembering Three Mile Island, do not want nuclear energy to be part of the solution.” And a recent Pew Research poll found that, “Critics highlight the high cost of nuclear power plant projects and the complexities of handling radioactive waste.”

By contrast, the U.S. Department of Energy has argued that the U.S. will need an additional 550 to 770 gigawatts of clean, firm capacity to reach net-zero carbon dioxide emissions and that nuclear power is one of the few proven options that can fill this need. Moreover, nuclear power plants create high-paying jobs with concentrated economic benefits for the communities most impacted by the energy transition.

These dichotomous messages from the DOE and NRC are highlighted in a recent article by ThorCon International co-founder Robert Hargraves, who bluntly stated that the U.S. is not building commercial nuclear power plants – while 16 other nations are – “because NRC and EPA regulators are so misinformed about radiation.”

Regulatory overkill is a likely culprit in the failed six-reactor, 462-megawatt project NuScale had planned in cooperation with Utah Associated Municipal Power Systems, part of the DOE’s Carbon Free Power initiative for small modular reactors. Several towns pulled out and sank the project as the estimated price for power rose from $58 per megawatt-hour (MWh) to $89/MWh.

Misguided safety assumptions created a regulatory jungle so complex that startup Atomic Canyon is offering AI to help applicants navigate the NRC’s database of 52 million documents. U.S. nuclear energy regulators, Hargraves charged, do not analyze data about human health effects of radiation from nuclear power; instead, they rely on groupthink consensus evolved in NGOs originally misled in the 1950s by grant-seeking geneticists.

For decades these geneticists claimed radiation damage to chromosomes was increasing. But when children of the survivors of the Nagasaki and Hiroshima atomic bomb attacks exhibited no such effects, the anti-nuclear scientists switched to alleged cancer impacts. And a major flaw in their analysis is what caused the cost of nuclear energy to skyrocket.

While studies of those survivors found no excess cancers in people receiving less than 0.1 Gray (joules of energy absorbed by kilogram of tissue), regulators set public radiation limits 100 times lower, mistakenly limiting accumulated dose rather than dose rate. In the real world, setting a maximum daily dose of 0.02 Gray (rather than the current maximum cumulative annual dose of 0.001 Gray) would provide a large safety margin.

Salisbury University Professor of Finance Danny Ervin pooh-poohs the fears of nuclear foes, saying “the next wave of nuclear can’t come soon enough.” That “next wave” includes scalable nuclear reactors, notably the TerraPower initiative sparked by Bill Gates. This advanced facility, coupled with a molten salt energy storage system, will be capable of increasing output for nearly six hours during peak demand periods at a projected cost of about $4 billion.

The plant will be powered by an advanced Natrium reactor cooled with liquid sodium instead of water [eliminating one concern of skeptics]. With a capacity to generate up to 500 megawatts, it will provide ample energy to power approximately 400,000 homes.

Of equal importance is that its location at a former coal-fired power plant in Wyoming enables easy integration into the existing electric grid while stimulating the local economy. This contrasts with wind turbines and solar arrays, which often are located far from existing transmission lines, require massive footprints, and operate intermittently, thus requiring backup power generation.

Over in England, X-Energy, in partnership with Babcock International subsidiary Cavendish, has proposed to develop a 12-reactor plant using the company’s Xe-100 high-temperature gas-cooled reactor design.  The Teesside array, which should be operational by the early 2030s, is the first of what the companies hope will be a fleet of up to 40 of the 80 MWe power plants in locations across the United Kingdom.

Cavendish Nuclear managing director Mick Gornall boasts that, “a fleet of Xe-100s can complement renewables by providing constant or flexible power, producing steam to decarbonize industry, and manufacturing hydrogen and synthetic transport fuels. Deployment will also, he said, create thousands of high-quality, long-term jobs nationwide.

Uranium-rich Nigeria thinks it has a solution to the radioactive waste management issue that has been a big bugaboo for the nuclear energy industry worldwide. The solution relies on the NST SuperLAT, which NuclearSAFE Technology co-founder Dr. Jimmy Etti-Williams calls “a breakthrough in nuclear waste management.”

SuperLAT will, says Etti-Williams, process, package, load, store, and transport nuclear waste in casket containers to several thousand feet underground, yet able to be retrieved as needed for fuel in reactors to generate low-carbon-footprint energy. This geological nuclear waste disposal technology is designed to isolate and dilute nuclear waste in line with universal regulations.

The SuperLAT technology should, says Etti-Williams, satisfy International Atomic Energy Agency and other stakeholder concerns about nuclear waste storage accidents, leakages, or terror risks. He boasts that Nigeria can have its own uranium plants to boost its own and pan-African development efforts.

There’s an old saying, which first appeared in 1902 in Puck’s Magazine, with the message, “People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.” It is high time, many now believe, for the nay-saying over-regulators to stop interrupting nuclear progress.

And on that front, too, there is good news. Nuclear Matters has announced an online gathering entitled, “The Path to Progress: Modernizing the NRC,” scheduled for May 2.

At the event, a four-person panel moderated by the Nuclear Energy Institute’s John Kotek will discuss the urgency of NRC modernization in order to unlock the benefits of nuclear technology innovation to revitalize the U.S. nuclear energy industry.

The anti-nuke FOEs (sic) will have little left to argue once these and other innovative nuclear projects prove successful and safe when brought to the fore in other nations – places like England and Nigeria. But those who seek reliable, safe, and clean technologies to generate the electricity in quantities needed tomorrow will only be satisfied if the archaic rules can be recrafted to accommodate them.

Duggan Flanakin is a senior policy analyst at the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow who writes on a wide variety of public policy issues.

This article was originally published by RealClearEnergy and made available via RealClearWire.

4.7 11 votes
Article Rating
Subscribe
Notify of
86 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
strativarius
April 26, 2024 2:40 am

Over in England… nothing can be taken for granted. It seems only an asteroid or a comet will stop Keir Starmer moving into Downing Street later this year, or early next. He has some grand plans and very little in the way of cash in the kitty. This has led to much speculation on where the money is going to come from. And he does need a great deal of money. 

A repeat of Gordon Brown’s magic trick seems likely: “”A proper windfall tax on oil and gas companies“” Word is that old age pensioners will be probably be forced to pay National Insurance, hitherto an employment thing; one that, er, pays for…

“”You pay National Insurance contributions to qualify for certain benefits and the State Pension.””
https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance

Only today I read:

“”Labour vows to nationalise railways within five years if it wins election””
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-04-25/labour-vows-to-nationalise-railways-within-five-years-if-it-wins-election

Nothing can be taken for granted – except the British people, that is.

Reply to  strativarius
April 26, 2024 9:49 am

At this stage, I’m praying for an asteroid.

strativarius
Reply to  Redge
April 26, 2024 11:38 pm

Anyone but Khan- ABK

Reply to  strativarius
April 26, 2024 2:05 pm

The railways are already largely nationalised. Network Rail is fully nationalised, and owned by the government. The guarantees given to ROSCOs (railcar leasing companies that own the rolling stock and rent it out to train operators) are such that ONS classifies their debt as if it were government debt. Several of the TOCs (Train Operating Companies) went bust during covid lockdowns and are now under state administration. HS2 is entirely government funded. There really isn’t much left, and it’s of very limited value. Subsidy is running at about half of operating cost, and most of the investment is funded by state capital injection and state borrowing to meet it. Operationally, the TOCs must bow to ORR, the regulator.

The danger is that government will carry on splurging thoughtlessly on rail: the budget for this year is an eye-watering £33bn.

Bryan A
Reply to  strativarius
April 26, 2024 3:23 pm

Labour vows to nationalise railways.
Ayn Rand already created that fiction…Atlas Shrugged

strativarius
Reply to  Bryan A
April 26, 2024 11:39 pm

We had British Rail…

Reply to  Bryan A
April 28, 2024 8:58 am

Ayn Rand already created that fiction

Fiction or prophecy? I’m seeing laws being proposed lately that are straight out of the book.

April 26, 2024 3:07 am

story tip

New EPA emissions rules could hasten retirement of coal-fired power plants

The Environmental Protection Agency has finalized a long-awaited set of regulations regarding proposed limits on fossil-fueled power plant emissions. But these new rules could mean the end of the coal industry as a source of electricity generated in the United States. Stephanie Sy discussed these rules and the reactions to them with Jennifer Dlouhy, Bloomberg’s energy and environmental reporter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbOqmp6TJQU&list=RDNSzbOqmp6TJQU&start_radio=1

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
April 26, 2024 5:13 am

A PBS video and PBS doesn’t allow comments on their YouTube channel- so much for “social media”

MarkW
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
April 28, 2024 7:10 am

It’s socialist media. Where we tell you what to think and don’t tolerate any disagreement.

Mr Ed
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
April 26, 2024 7:40 am

It’s all about the base load which this video fails to discuss. So curious
that all the “clean renewable energy” made in china being sold here is being
built with coal fired energy.

Reply to  Mr Ed
April 26, 2024 7:59 am

And I bet (not sure) the smokestacks on those Chinese coal power plants aren’t as “clean” as American coal powered smokestacks.

Reply to  Mr Ed
April 27, 2024 6:13 am

Nuclear Plants by Russia
According to the IAEA, during the first half of 2023, a total of 407 nuclear reactors are in operation at power plants across the world, with a total capacity at about 370,000 MW
Nuclear was 2546 TWh, or 9.2%, of world electricity production in 2022
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/batteries-in-new-england
Rosatom, a Russian Company, is building more nuclear reactors than any other country in the world, according to data from the Power Reactor Information System of the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA.
The data show, a total of 58 large-scale nuclear power reactors are currently under construction worldwide, of which 23 are being built by Russia.
.
In Egypt, 4 reactors, each 1,200 MW = 4,800 MW for $30 billion, or about $6,250/kW, 
The cost of the nuclear power plant is $28.75 billion.
As per a bilateral agreement, signed in 2015, approximately 85% of it is financed by Russia, and to be paid for by Egypt under a 22-year loan with an interest rate of 3%.
That cost is at least 40% less than US/UK/EU
.
In Turkey, 4 reactors, each 1,200 MW = 4,800 MW for $20 billion, or about $4,200/kW, entirely financed by Russia. The plant will be owned and operated by Rosatom
.
In India, 6 VVER-1000 reactors, each 1,000 MW = 6,000 MW at the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Plant.
Capital cost about $15 billion. Units 1, 2, 3 and 4 are in operation, units 5 and 6 are being constructed
In Bangladesh: 2 VVER-1200 reactors = 2400 MW at the Rooppur Power Station
Capital cost $12.65 billion is 90% funded by a loan from the Russian government. The two units generating 2400 MW are planned to be operational in 2024 and 2025. Rosatom will operate the units for the first year before handing over to Bangladeshi operators. Russia will supply the nuclear fuel and take back and reprocess spent nuclear fuel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooppur_Nuclear_Power_Plant
.
Rosatom, created in 2007 by combining several Russian companies, usually provides full service during the entire project life, such as training, new fuel bundles, refueling, waste processing and waste storage in Russia, etc., because the various countries likely do not have the required systems and infrastructures
 
Nuclear: Remember, these nuclear plants reliably produce steady electricity, at reasonable cost/kWh, and have near-zero CO2 emissions
They have about 0.90 capacity factors, and last 60 to 80 years
Nuclear does not need counteracting plants. They can be designed as load-following, as some are in France
.
Wind: Offshore wind systems produce variable, unreliable power, at very high cost/kWh, and are far from CO2-free, on a mine-to-hazardous landfill basis.
They have lifetime capacity factors, on average, of about 0.40; about 0.45 in very windy places
They last about 20 to 25 years in a salt water environment 
They require: 1) a fleet of quick-reacting power plants to counteract the up/down wind outputs, on a less-than-minute-by-minute basis, 24/7/365, 2) major expansion/reinforcement of electric grids to connect the wind systems to load centers, 3) a lot of land and sea area, 4) curtailment payments, i.e., pay owners for what they could have produced
 
Major Competitors: Rosatom’s direct competitors, according to PRIS data, are three Chinese companies: CNNC, CSPI and CGN.
They are building 22 reactors, but it should be noted, they are being built primarily inside China, and the Chinese partners are building five of them together with Rosatom.
American and European companies are lagging behind Rosatom, by a wide margin,” Alexander Uvarov, a director at the Atom-info Center and editor-in-chief at the atominfo.ru website, told TASS.
 
Tripling Nuclear A Total Fantasy: During COP28, Kerry called for the world to triple nuclear, from 370,200 MW to 1,110,600 MW, by 2050.
https://phys.org/news/2023-12-triple-nuclear-power-cop28.html
 
Based on past experience in the US and EU, it takes at least 10 years to commission nuclear plants
Plants with about 39 reactors must be started each year, for 16 years (2024 to 2040), to fill the pipeline, to commission the final ones by 2050, in addition to those already in the pipeline.
 
New nuclear: Kerry’s nuclear tripling by 2050, would add 11% of world electricity generation in 2050. See table
Nuclear was 9.2% of 2022 generation. That would become about 5% of 2050 generation, if some older plants are shut down, and plants already in the pipeline are placed in operation, 
Total nuclear would be 11+ 5 = 16%; minimal impact on CO2 emissions and ppm in 2050.
 
Infrastructures and Manpower: The building of the new nuclear plants would require a major increase in infrastructures and educating and training of personnel, in addition to the cost of the power plants.

Mr Ed
Reply to  wilpost
April 27, 2024 9:42 am

Thanks, interesting look. I read once that all the nuclear power plants
in the US are all of a different design and that all of the navy propulsion nuclear
power plants are of the same basic design. The author pointed out that
this makes nuclear power in this country much more complicated/expensive than it needs to be for a number of reason. This author suggested that if we were
to make a group of nuclear plants of the same design that if a flaw was to
appear the fix could be made to all the plants at once. He pointed out
that the French which has a lot of nuclear does something like that. There is
a lot of uranium in the area where I live but the enviros have put into
place a lot of regulations that make extracting any nearly impossible.
A local guy became a nuclear physicist and made a career of cleaning
up nuclear pollution in the 70’s and 80’s I’ve heard some interesting things
from those operations.

Reply to  Mr Ed
April 27, 2024 3:05 pm

I changed my major twice while studying for my masters at RPI, first nuclear, then modern physics, then settled on mechanical engineering.

Mr Ed
Reply to  wilpost
April 27, 2024 3:21 pm

Your posts are reflective of that. I have a neighbor who’s a retired
engineer. He bought an old farm homestead and has been fixing
it up. His fence lines have been set in with a transit, some guys
just can’t help themselves.

rovingbroker
April 26, 2024 3:10 am

Wait until the crazies learn about Nuclear Medicine. They’ll be closing hospitals.

Nuclear medicine procedures help detect and treat diseases by using a small amount of radioactive material, called a radiopharmaceutical. Some radiopharmaceuticals are used with imaging equipment to detect diseases. Radiopharmaceuticals can also be placed inside the body near a cancerous tumor to shrink or destroy it.

https://www.epa.gov/radtown/radiation-used-nuclear-medicine

But if little Johnny or Janie falls off his or her bicycle, its straight to the ER for x-rays.

April 26, 2024 4:05 am

A decade from now, the wind and solar transition will resemble Alice’s trip down the rabbit hole – a place inhabited by lunatics and where nothing makes sense. Massive and seemingly endless subsidies have perverted the ordinary signals that free and open markets deliver. In Europe, the grand wind and solar rush has come to a grinding halt. Nuclear power is on the rise and several countries have scrapped their wind and solar targets, altogether.

Grand Solar Power Rush Ends With Panels Being Used As Garden Fencing

Gregory Woods
April 26, 2024 4:20 am

‘and in 2023 supplied nearly half the nation’s carbon-free electricity’

‘Carbon-free electricity’: I really, really hate that phrase….

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Gregory Woods
April 26, 2024 8:46 am

Agreed. Treating carbon as a vice really irks me as well. Is it not the basis for all life on this planet? If they mean carbon dioxide, they should say carbon dioxide rather than “carbon”.

Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
April 26, 2024 11:08 am

Even CO2 is necessary for plants and without plants, the animals die.

Plants need at least 150 ppm of CO2 for photosynthesis.

In the last glacial period, the CO2 level dropped to 180 ppm only 30 ppm above the level at which all land plants die and go extinct taking all the animals down with them.

The interglacial periods usually last about 10,000 years, it has been 11,700 years since the last glacial period so a new glacial period is slightly overdue.

The Grand Solar Minimum and its forecast of a 1C drop in temperature may be enough to start the next glacial period.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/23328940.2020.1796243?needAccess=true

The atmosphere needs all the CO2 it can get to increase the odds that land plants and animals survive.
https://pioga.org/just-the-facts-more-co2-is-good-less-is-bad

April 26, 2024 4:55 am

“People who say it cannot be done should

not interrupt those who are doing it.”

________________________________________________________________

(-:

MyUsername
Reply to  Steve Case
April 26, 2024 11:28 am

True.

comment image

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  MyUsername
April 29, 2024 11:26 am

Where’s the wheat? Where’s the corn, the soybeans, the oats, the food for the famished billions?

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
April 28, 2024 7:19 am

Not even a good photoshop.

Reply to  MyUsername
April 27, 2024 11:18 am

How do they remove the pollen from the solar panels that the windmills spread around?

MarkW
Reply to  doonman
April 28, 2024 7:20 am

What happens to the amount of solar power being generated when the shadows of those bird choppers cross over them?

Mr.
Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 7:47 pm

That used to be a beautiful landscape that an artist might have painted for us to admire.

Now it\s just the ignorance, arrogance and vandalism that’s front and centre.

Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 2:17 pm

should not be done is quite different from can not be done

quite aside from the fact what is being claimed as possible for wind and solar generation can not be accomplished.

Reply to  AndyHce
April 26, 2024 2:46 pm

And they have track record that shows it doesn’t work.
That it’s been heavily hyped as “working” and what does have a track record of working (and reliably) has been heavily vilified does not change the facts.

Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 12:05 pm

I see a farmer’s field full of weeds.
Let’s not stop those trying to remove them.

MarkW
Reply to  Steve Case
April 28, 2024 7:17 am

Nobody said wind and solar can’t be built. What we are saying is that they can’t power a modern society.
The second phrase is being proven every single day.

Sweet Old Bob
April 26, 2024 4:58 am

“The plant will be powered by an advanced Natrium reactor cooled with liquid sodium instead of water”
Really ??
So why are all our submarines not using this wonderful system ?
/s

😉

Bryan A
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
April 26, 2024 5:29 am

Don’t Submarines swim in an ocean of water? 😉😚

strativarius
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
April 26, 2024 6:32 am

Atrium is …. Sodium

strativarius
Reply to  strativarius
April 26, 2024 6:32 am

Natrium

Reply to  strativarius
April 26, 2024 2:19 pm

A search for Natrium brings up Sodium

strativarius
Reply to  AndyHce
April 26, 2024 11:40 pm

Hence

Na

JamesB_684
Reply to  Sweet Old Bob
April 26, 2024 7:28 am

Sodium and sea water don’t mix politely. As a former nuclear operator on a U.S. Navy fast attack submarine, I’ve seen a lot of sea water on the inside of the inner hull. The Navy tried a sodium cooled reactor and abandoned the idea as a disaster in the making.

Sweet Old Bob
Reply to  JamesB_684
April 28, 2024 4:55 am

“Sodium and sea water don’t mix politely. As a former nuclear operator on a U.S. Navy fast attack submarine,”

So was I . 637 class .

Thanks for reminding others of the obvious problem with that idea !

Run silent , run deep ….

April 26, 2024 5:32 am

These people are not goofy. The regulations are designed to prevent any new nuclear power plants from being built. Many have trouble believing the truth.
The purpose of many federal agencies.
EPA: close and move as much production out of the US to overseas.
NRA: prevent new plant construction
Dept. of Education: remove logic and make Americans obey. People with low education levels are much easier to control with propaganda and fear.
FDA and CDC: Never disclose what is really going on with peoples health. Promote and many Pharma products as possible no matter how bad they are for human health.
Dept. of Defense formally known as the Dept of War: Promote as many small scale wars as possible and supply the Defense industry with as much funding as possible. Many wonder why the DoD cannot reconcile there expenses. This is because it is a feature. Hide and disguise where the funds really go.
I could go on about other agencies but …
Instead follow the money and how it gets back to Congress for election funding, hidden overseas accounts, and overseas homes.
There are more Jeffrey Epstein‘s out there they work for CIA and other 3 letter agencies.

Bryan A
Reply to  George B
April 26, 2024 6:10 am

Watch out for those Alphabet Soupophiles

MyUsername
April 26, 2024 6:48 am

Blaming others for your own failure. Nuclear died in the seventies. But somehow people still drag the corpse through town.

And it’s always just-around-the-corner-tech. But never quite there. Or failing again, despite massive government funding.

https://thebulletin.org/2023/12/nuclear-expert-mycle-schneider-on-the-cop28-pledge-to-triple-nuclear-energy-production-trumpism-enters-energy-policy/

Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 8:33 am

If Diablo Canyon provides 10% of California’s power at this point in it’s long life….one would think the government of Cali would already have evidence of which successful power generation technology they should be installing….by just looking at it’s real estate footprint alone….

Bryan A
Reply to  DMacKenzie
April 26, 2024 8:52 am

I was just about to say Diablo Canyon proves the User wrong.
France also proves MyUser WRONG

MyUsername
Reply to  Bryan A
April 26, 2024 10:10 am

France: Shrinking nuclear, growing renewables –
Somehow proves me wrong.

Same with the US. Massive growth in renewables. Nuclear…did NuScale fail again, or do we have a new power point reactor we all can fall for?

Amos E. Stone
Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 1:16 pm

France right now – nuclear 81.3% of demand. wind 6%, sunshine nil. I’ll give you the Nuscale powerpoint reactor until they actually build one, but raise you the 4 APR1400 in the UAE. Completely non-nuclear country gets 1.4GW in 8 years, 2nd one a year later, 3rd one the next year, 4th one 2 years after that – thinking about numbers 5 and 6. Currently producing over 5GW or 12% of their electrical demand. In a desert country. Day and night, wind or dunkenflaute.

Amos E. Stone
Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 1:31 pm

Forgot to add – massive growth in renewables is great when they work – right now in the UK where I am, wind capacity is 29GW, producing 1.1GW. Solar capacity is 16GW, but it’s dark so guess how much. Nuclear capacity 6GW, producing 5.4GW.

Reply to  Amos E. Stone
April 26, 2024 2:25 pm

massive growth in renewables is massive environmental degradation

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
April 28, 2024 7:25 am

I see you are still believe that massive government mandates and subsidies prove that wind and solar work.

Bryan A
Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 9:26 am

Cumulatively, fewer people have died as a result of nuclear accidents since the inception of nuclear power than have died in many single airline crashes

A total of around 350 people have died since 1957 attributable to nuclear accidents
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_by_death_toll

Airliner accident death tolls
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_accidents_and_incidents

To hell with fighting nuclear energy to save lives, we need to stop the travesty of flight

MyUsername
Reply to  Bryan A
April 26, 2024 10:11 am

Grasping at straws now, aren’t we?

Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 2:10 pm

Yep, you are.

Bryan A
Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 3:27 pm

Not at all, simply pointing out your hypocrisy. Nuclear energy has saved far more lives than it has ever taken (+/-350 in 55 years)

MarkW
Reply to  Bryan A
April 28, 2024 7:28 am

The added cost of wind and solar are already killing more people every year, than nuclear has over its entire lifespan.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
April 28, 2024 7:26 am

Reality was never your friend, was it.

Ex-KaliforniaKook
Reply to  MyUsername
April 28, 2024 4:12 pm

Troll. Why does anyone respond to him? He knows he’s full of it, but just trying to get a rise out of you.

IGNORE HIM!

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Ex-KaliforniaKook
April 29, 2024 11:31 am

He actually posted once he does this for the entertainment value.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Bryan A
April 29, 2024 11:30 am

That would cut down on CO2 from all those thousands that addend the COP parties.

Mr.
Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 9:53 am

Your history denialism is kinda hard to deny when places like France and Ontario to name just two are still putting out nuclear power more reliably than your factoids.

MyUsername
Reply to  Mr.
April 26, 2024 10:11 am

And they still build nuclear at a fast pace…oh no, wait, that’s renewables.

Bryan A
Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 4:32 pm

Renewables are being built at such a blisteringly fast rate that solar and wind now comprise a whopping 5% of global energy use.
Sheesh 🙄
For Wind and Solar its all about $ubsidies 🤑🤑🤑 and naught about generation 🏭 Solar only produces from 🕙am until 🕑pm and nothing a all during the evening peak when it’s needed.
Wind only produces 40% of the year… averaging about 4.5 months generating and 7.5 months not producing anything useful.
Nuclear has up to a 99% capacity factor which equates to about 2 weeks every 2 years with no output (called refueling outages)
Solar panels degrade after 10-15 years and need replacing while wind turbines fail every 15-20 years while Nuclear lasts up to 60 years so Wind will be replaced 3 times at almost 3 times the cost of Nuclear while Solar.will be replaced 4-5 times in 60 years… Even more with hail storms. Neither are adequate for grid stability without reliable spinning back-up or ultra expensive battery mega pack systems (which aren’t required for Nuclear)

Reply to  MyUsername
April 26, 2024 2:22 pm

But only in the US and other fantasy run social entities

Reply to  MyUsername
April 27, 2024 11:26 am

Actually, nuclear reactions are the only source of energy there is in the entire universe.

It’s too bad morons can’t understand this physical truth.

MarkW
Reply to  MyUsername
April 28, 2024 7:24 am

Nuclear didn’t die. Many other countries continue to have great success with it.
Others have listed the many ways in which government makes it impossible to build nuclear in this country.

Why don’t you try looking at a science site for once? Every link you provide is to a far left propaganda site.

Phillip Bratby
April 26, 2024 7:40 am

The corrupt Linear No threshold Model (LNT) has a lot to answer for. And yet its architect, Hermann Muller, was awarded the Nobel Prize in 1946 for his false science.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
April 26, 2024 8:10 am

It has always amazed me that green groups take everything the IPCC says to heart but oppose and ignore, and have done so for over 50 years, everything the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR) says.

John Hultquist
April 26, 2024 8:25 am

 “many Americans, perhaps remembering Three Mile Island, …”

A person would have to be about 60 years old to actually remember something that happened in 1979. If born after 1965, most will think of this as ancient history. Other notable events of 1979:
Pink Floyd release “The Wall”
USSR Invades Afghanistan
Margaret Thatcher is elected Prime minister in the UK
Sony released the Walkman
Snowboard is invented in the USA

Gums
Reply to  John Hultquist
April 26, 2024 8:40 am

Somehow, I would think that the Japanese incident due to a tsunami would provide more solid data and less hysteria than TMI. We saw specific results of failed systems and also design/procedural aspects to use or not use on future plants. Ditto for Chernobyl.

Gums sends…

MarkW
Reply to  Gums
April 28, 2024 7:37 am

Nobody in the west ever used the type of reactor that failed in Chernobyl. The reactor that failed at Fukushima was already scheduled for decommissioning. If the earthquake had happened one or two years later, nobody would have ever heard of that reactor.

Grenville Coakes
Reply to  John Hultquist
April 26, 2024 8:46 am

I was born in 1965 and well remember all of these notable events. I also recall somebody said at the time “More people died at Chappaquiddick than at Three Mile Island”.

Mr.
Reply to  John Hultquist
April 26, 2024 9:57 am

Sony released the Walkman

I think that particular device “escaped” rather than was released.

Reply to  Mr.
April 26, 2024 2:30 pm

The walkman was a great social advancment. It allowed individuals to enjoy their own peculiar nonsense without inflicting same on everyone within shouting distance. Marvelous improvement in common courtesy.

Mr.
Reply to  AndyHce
April 26, 2024 7:51 pm

I guess so.

Could have been much much worse –

rap “music” could have been in vogue back then 🙁

Ex-KaliforniaKook
Reply to  Mr.
April 28, 2024 5:32 pm

I still remember the first time I heard rap “music”. I told my wife that crap wouldn’t last long.

I so wish I had been right.

MarkW
Reply to  John Hultquist
April 28, 2024 7:34 am

You are claiming that people don’t remember much prior to the age of 15?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  John Hultquist
April 29, 2024 11:33 am

Ah, the good old days.

April 26, 2024 10:54 am

Around $US6 trillion has been spent and CO2 keeps increasing at the same rate.

Even when the human CO2 output dropped by 6 percent in 2020 because of COVID-19 the CO2 increases didn’t slow down.

Reply to  scvblwxq
April 27, 2024 11:31 am

Shhhhh. We are fighting climate change. Don’t let the truth become widely known. People get mad when they pay money for no reason.

April 26, 2024 1:56 pm

Kathryn Porter dissected the sorry state of nuclear regulation in the UK here:

https://watt-logic.com/2024/04/14/nuclear-regulation/

It will take a lot of work to unwind it.

April 26, 2024 2:27 pm

I wonder how many “Goofy Greens” work for these guys?
https://crowdsondemand.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowds_on_Demand
(Or others like them that aren’t so public and for other “causes”.)

kwinterkorn
April 26, 2024 2:41 pm

The false reporting about Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, and Fukushima, and the nonsense and hysteria about nuclear “waste” disposal is not yet overcome.

Nobody died because of Three Mile Island. At Fukushima a few may die over time due to radiation—-but 20,000 died from the ocean water (tsunami). The problems at Chernobyl were due to inadequate and ancient design features and Soviet Government meddling.

Yet the Left has succeeded in demonizing nuclear energy based on these events which ironically demonstrated how safe and effective nuclear is compared to alternatives.

The only conclusion is that at its core the Green movement is hostile to prosperity, modern industrial society, and human beings in general. For some, the hostility seems to be to all of reality.

Reply to  kwinterkorn
April 28, 2024 8:56 am

As I understand it, in addition to soviet government and design issues, there were also several safety protocols ignored leading to the incident.

April 26, 2024 4:19 pm

The Greens hated nuclear before they targeted CO2. The successful campaign of half-truths and outright lies is the model for the fight against fossil fuels, they certainly won’t consider it as the solution.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  nutmeg
April 29, 2024 11:36 am

The war on truth, justice, and the American way has been ongoing since the end of WWII.
At the end of WWII, the USA literally was 50% of the total global economy.

Sparta Nova 4
April 29, 2024 11:23 am

“many Americans, perhaps remembering Three Mile Island, do not want nuclear energy to be part of the solution.” 

When the first massive LiPO (energy grid backup) goes up in 5000 C flames and all the toxic gases spread, they will think of Three Mile Island more in terms of smelling their neighbor cooking hotdogs.