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Actor Steven Seagal Joins Pro Kremlin Environmental Justice Party

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t BreitbartSteven Seagal is emerging as a clear favourite for most woke Hollywood climate celebrity ever, after joining a Russian pro-Putin left wing environmental activist party, whose leaders include ultra-nationalist Russian paramilitary Zakhar Prilepin. Earlier this month, Seagal while acting as Russia’s representative presented a Samurai sword to Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro.

Hollywood actor Seagal joins pro-Kremlin party, proposes tougher laws

May 31, 2021

Hollywood actor Steven Seagal, a long-time admirer of Russian President Vladimir Putin, has joined a pro-Kremlin party, the the party said on Sunday.

Seagal received a party membership card of an alliance named Just Russia – Patriots – For Truth on Saturday, a video relased by the party showed. It was formed earlier this year, when three leftist parties, all of which support Putin, merged into one.

Seagal, a Russian citizen since 2016, proposed a crackdown on businesses which damage the environment.

“Without being able to arrest people, when we just fine them, they are probably making more money of the production of the things that are defiling the environment,” said in his welcome speech at a party event.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/hollywood-actor-seagal-joins-pro-kremlin-party-proposes-tougher-laws-2021-05-30/

Seagal has some stiff competition; Sean Penn initially stole the lead with his fawning El Chappo interview, though rumours have persisted that El Chappo’s meeting with Penn may have contributed to his capture. But Seagal hanging out with Putin, demanding harsh penalties against businesses which “defile” the environment is going to be a tough act to beat.

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Hal McCombs
May 31, 2021 6:15 pm

Damn. I used to like him.

MarkW
Reply to  Hal McCombs
May 31, 2021 6:27 pm

It’s rapidly reaching the point where the only movies I can watch are ones where all the actors are safely dead.

fretslider
Reply to  MarkW
June 1, 2021 3:00 am

Funnily enough they’re getting the trigger warning treatment on streaming platforms – even Sesame Street got one.

I need to go back to school to learn my English history all over again…

According to a new Channel 5 drama, “Anne Boleyn”, which stars actress Jodie Turner-Smith as the ill-fated Queen, Boleyn was in fact a black woman.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/515434-black-actress-anne-boleyn-history/

I never knew Martin Luther King was white – perhaps that’s why the post-modern left consider him to be a [colourblind] racist.

Richard Page
Reply to  fretslider
June 1, 2021 3:21 am

Of course Anne Boleyn was black. You don’t think white folks in authority would treat another white person like that, do you? sarc.

Sara
Reply to  fretslider
June 1, 2021 4:51 am

Rewriting history must be such fun for them. I wonder how her family’s descendants feel about that rewrite.

TonyG
Reply to  Sara
June 1, 2021 7:19 am

Sara, they’re perfectly happy with the rewrite, or else.

Bill Powers
Reply to  MarkW
June 1, 2021 10:39 am

I actually thought Segal was dead but I never considered him an actor so he doesn’t measure up to your viewing requirements even after he shuffles of this mortal coil.

UNGN
May 31, 2021 6:15 pm

At this point in his career, Steven Seagal will side with anyone who promises him a sandwich.

tmatsi
Reply to  UNGN
May 31, 2021 6:26 pm

Really does not need any more sandwiches

Jeffery P
Reply to  tmatsi
June 1, 2021 7:17 am

Could use a better dye job, though.

dk_
Reply to  UNGN
May 31, 2021 6:30 pm

ungn correct! See the Breitbart picturecomment image Steve isn’t livin’ on grapefruit.

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Doug Huffman
Reply to  dk_
June 1, 2021 4:21 am

Channeling Penn Jillette?

Bryan A
Reply to  Doug Huffman
June 1, 2021 5:13 am

He heard the top Russians being referred to as “Fat Cats” and thougt e
must belong.

Reply to  dk_
June 1, 2021 4:36 am

I used to have a photo of that 800-pound sumo wrestler on my fridge – as a diet aid.

It really worked. One look at that behemoth and you weren’t hungry anymore.

Sara
Reply to  dk_
June 1, 2021 4:52 am

Eeeewwww!!1 I haven’t had breakfast yet!!! And that would scare the quills off a porcupine!

Editor
Reply to  Sara
June 1, 2021 9:05 am

Thanks, Sara. That made me laugh.

On top of that, I just thought of the goofy way Seagal runs, and that made me laugh more.

Regards,
Bob

Sara
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
June 1, 2021 9:29 am

You’re quite welcome, Bob! SEagal runs? I thought he had a stunt man to do that for him…. 🙂

Editor
Reply to  Sara
June 1, 2021 4:05 pm

Here ya go, Sara:

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwwXE-T4HPI&w=560&h=315%5D

Regards,
Bob

Sara
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
June 1, 2021 7:25 pm

Now I know why I would rather watch mold grow than one of his movies. 🙂

Have a nice quiet evening!

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  dk_
June 1, 2021 4:59 am

Wot? Not barebreasted and on a horse? Poor show.

rah
Reply to  UNGN
June 1, 2021 2:57 am

Fatso is apparently desperate to make another movie. Wonder if it will have more than two words in the title.

UNGN
Reply to  rah
June 1, 2021 4:04 am

Steven Seagal movie titles follow a theme.

You are supposed to say “Steven Seagal is….” and then the Movie Title in a deep, Hollywood announcer voice.

Bryan A
Reply to  UNGN
June 1, 2021 5:16 am

…Totally Alarmed

Mumbles McGuirck
Reply to  UNGN
June 1, 2021 6:43 am

…Big as a House.

TonyG
Reply to  UNGN
June 1, 2021 7:24 am

“…Under Seige” – his second best movie. His best movie is Executive Decision

(think about it for a minute…)

Bryan A
Reply to  UNGN
June 1, 2021 1:28 pm

…Turning Red

Reply to  UNGN
June 1, 2021 5:44 am

I would boycott the traitor but I never was a fan. He should urge his pal Czar Ras-Putin to pass a law against murdering his political opponents with polonium….bad for the environment……and urge Putey to go all electric…HAHAHAHA.

Al Miller
May 31, 2021 6:50 pm

Another action movie guy gone bananas. Very sad he has lost his sanity.

Kenji
Reply to  Al Miller
May 31, 2021 7:29 pm

Segal took his nonsensical Hollywooden Zen Buddhism jusssssst a little too far. Hey Steven! It’s just a movie. It’s just a movie. You don’t have to go all loopy enviro-whacko along with your soft-talking about righteous justice, right before you crack a pool cue over some tough guy’s head and shove the broken parts up his anus … all peaceful and soft Buddhist talking and whatnot.

Making nice with Maduro puts you on the WRONG side of righteousness. And BTW … I certainly hope you’ve weaned yourself completely off fossil fuels at your various mansions.

Jeff Labute
Reply to  Al Miller
June 1, 2021 9:05 am

Once ALL countries turn to communism, Russia just may end up being the best place to live. lol. Maybe Steven is just doing some prudent planning. At his age, action is out of the question, but endorsing a cause for money I bet is at the top of the list. He is a Russian citizen and banned in the Ukraine as a national threat. WTF Steve!

https://youtu.be/1X9RvuSuU_Y

Felix
May 31, 2021 7:14 pm

Considering Putin’s record, and Seagall’s record of riding along with cops to help violate the 4th amendment, I’d say he’s gone full circle and is more of a right wing nut at this point, both of them being closer to Nazis than Communists. Just goes to show how worthless the right-left dichotomy is.

dk_
Reply to  Felix
May 31, 2021 7:51 pm

Or just maybe actors are mostly idiots who are only sometimes useful when playing roles. If you read the article, assuming that is a talent you posess, there’s a little bit about how Stevie endorsed Putin’s takeover of Crimea, and received his Russian citizenship shortly thereafter. While some left wing types, not already on Putin’s payroll, are somewhat hesitant to quite go that far, you won’t find too many of your right-wing boogiemen that have ever said that Putin did the right thing by Ukraine.
Now Joe Biden, John Kerry, and Hillary Rodham Clinton, on the other hand have all gone for support of Russia, in one way or the other, and undermined the Ukraine’s claim.
But ‘fess up, you don’t even know what the fourth amendment really is, or why a ride-along for an actor’s role study 20 ish years ago could even begin to violate it.

Felix
Reply to  dk_
May 31, 2021 8:25 pm

You read what you wanted, not what I wrote; and you made assumptions based on those faulty premises. Please, do as Willis asks, and show me the exact words I wrote which led you astray, and next time I will try to write more clearly.

dk_
Reply to  Felix
May 31, 2021 9:28 pm

Putin’s record, and Seagall’s record of riding along with cops to help violate the 4th amendment,

If it wasn’t your intent to associate Putin, Segall, and U.S. cops with right-wing nuts, Nazis and/or Communists, then I did, indeed misunderstand you.

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dk_
Reply to  Felix
May 31, 2021 11:58 pm

Yeah, didn’t think so.

dk_
Reply to  Felix
June 1, 2021 4:07 am

So just because rule 5

Seagall’s record of riding along with cops to help violate the 4th amendment

Didn’t happen. Seagal got caught up in a smear campaign (not totally unearned) against Joe Arpaio. The claims for the raid in question were made by the lawyer for a parole violator, who later dropped the lawyer, the lawyer’s lawsuit, and plead guilty to the parole violations.
Parolees have few rights, by the legally binding terms of their parole, search without a warrant being at least one of the ones given up so that they can get out of jail.
None of which stopped other nitwitterverse newz people from conflating the lawyer’s fake claims about Seagall with the claims against the COPS tv show, which may have involved some alleged fourth amendment violations.

I’d say he’s gone full circle and is more of a right wing nut at this point,

“At this point” goes back to 2014 with Seagall’s endorsement of Crimean annexation. In 2016, Steve got his Russian citizenship from his “brother” Vladimir.
This article was about Stevie joining a Russian political party that uses as-good-as U.S. Democrat party platform green speak in its party platform.
RIght-wing nuts, Communists and Nazis together says a little more about you than it does about Seagall or Putin. Perhaps you were talking about Arpaio, but you’d still have it mostly wrong as this was part of the same smear campaign — that came down all the way from Obama’s office as a slap against Arpaio’s falling for the birther gag that Obama set up himself (look up his law review bio).
In some universe, there may be right wing nuts who sympathize with Putin. Not this one.
So I think I read what you wrote. I’ll stand by my characterization of it. I still don’t think you know what is in either article, or know what the fourth amendment is beyond what you’ve gotten fromt he COPS tv show reports on the nitwittermedianewz.
And back to my first response, since you haven’t retracted it, associating U.S. Police men and women as a class at any level with right-wing nuts, communists, nazis, Putin, Seagll, or criminals pretty much makes you fair game for ridicule.
Define dichotomy. Now do irony.

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Observer
Reply to  dk_
June 2, 2021 1:59 am

Yes, and wokesters hate Putin “cuz muh Russian Collusion” so the article gets off to a bad start there.

Without knowing more about what pollution Seagal is talking about – Dioxins? Mercury? The smell of coffee? it’s premature to criticise him.

As for Crimea, its fate should be determined by the people who live there. And they seem happier being part of the Russian Federation than Ukraine, which is a borderline failed state with an actual pro-Nazi party in parliament influencing its lawmaking.

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dk_
Reply to  Observer
June 2, 2021 12:34 pm

knowing more about what pollution Seagal is talking about…it’s premature to criticise him.

No Observer, I personally think it is fair to criticise Seagall, even before this bit, which IMO seems more about propaganda than much of anything else.

But my gripe with friend Felix had more to do with that person’s smear on a group of people who’ve had too much dumped on them in public with no justification, and have absolutely nothing to do with this story. His was poorly thought out, and I wished he’d corrected it.

And they seem happier being part of the Russian Federation than Ukraine

Who says so? Serious question, Observer, the only source we have for information from Crimea is Russian. None of it seems credible. If you’ve a link to a reliable source, please post it!

Sara
Reply to  dk_
June 1, 2021 4:55 am

To dk and Felix: actors ARE mostly idiots, especially nowadays. They get caught up in something called “transfer”, which gives them grandiose notions about themselves, but when the lights go out, they’re still mostly idiots.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  dk_
June 1, 2021 9:33 am

He didn’t start out as an actor.

dk_
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
June 1, 2021 10:24 am

Cyde,
If I hadn’t had such a smass day already, I’d say he didn’t end up as much of one either, and the middle was pretty bleak on that score. But I’ve gone past my quota, so I won’t.
Seagall was a pretty good, and immense, exhibition fighter and stuntman. He may still be all those things when in training and makeup. Wouldn’t care for his MacBeth.

Pat from kerbob
Reply to  Felix
May 31, 2021 8:17 pm

Nazis and communist are just two sides of the same leftist coins.
Read a great book recently, Travellers in the 3rd Reich, based on letters from people who visited from 1918-45.

Many could not see the difference between hitler’s Germany and Stalin’s USSR

Because there was little difference.

Nazis were leftists, who allowed private property, the only substantial difference.

Felix
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
May 31, 2021 8:28 pm

Exactly. I sometimes tell people Socialists own the means of production, while Fascists control the owners, but obviously that is a non-difference too, when the “owners” would quickly forfeit their property to the State if they did not do the State’s bidding. Someone issues orders, others follow, and quibbling about who owns the means of production and who owns the owners is a fool’s quest.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Felix
May 31, 2021 10:17 pm

At least the Devil’s second greatest trick was convincing people that Nazi’s were ‘right wing’.
Although, I guess that was really socialist academics that did that.

David A
Reply to  Felix
June 1, 2021 2:41 am

Then in the future I suggest you do not call fascism “right wing” as it blurs the lines between statism and anarchy, and prohibits understanding of the Constitutional Republic that express the foundational principles of the U.S.A, where individual liberty above group power, allows the “ necessary evil” of Government.

sailor76
Reply to  Felix
June 1, 2021 5:26 am

And then there is the “climate emergency” Party. They seek to control all aspects of energy, from exploration, through production, distribution and consumption, Control all the aspects of the Energy Life Cycle and you have a much greater control than “owning the means of production”. You than own everything, from “means of production”. the “means of distribution” and the >means of consumption”, a much higher form of control the Marxism could ever dream off.

Observer
Reply to  Felix
June 2, 2021 2:06 am

There’s a few other (admittedly minor) differences.

Fascists are nation and race conscious, and use these sentiments to rally their goons, whereas socialists are class conscious, and use wealth inequality to rally their goons.

Otherwise – as you say – they’re both collectivist authoritarian, which should classify them as hard left, at least in terms of economics.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
May 31, 2021 10:48 pm

An ongoing struggle against tyranny, The Utopian Conceit and the War on Freedom:

…the categories of Left and Right continue to be used to describe political ideologies, despite their historic ambiguity and a shared utopian root …

… This conceit reemerged in the Gnostic sects of early Christianity, then again in medieval millenarianism, Jacobinism, Marxism, Fascism, and secular liberal collectivism …

David A
Reply to  Chris Hanley
June 1, 2021 2:44 am

“ Such is the nature of the tyrant, when he first appears, he is a protector.”

Plato.

Anon
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
June 1, 2021 7:25 am

I found this interesting about the abbreviation “NAZI” that we all reflexively use. Apparently there is more to it, like Global Warming morphing to Climate Change. It is amazing how important descriptive words are:

THE LEFT-RIGHT DICHOTOMY ~ Thomas Sowell

The same idea was echoed in the name of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party in Germany, Hitler’s party, now almost always abbreviated as Nazis, thereby burying its socialist component.

(Who benefits from that? Hint: Not the right)

What distinguished Fascist movements in general from Communist movements was that Communists were officially committed to government ownership of the means of production, while Fascists permitted private ownership of the means of production, so long as government directed the private owners’ decisions and limited what profit rates they could receive. Both were totalitarian dictatorships but Communists were officially internationalist while Fascists were officially nationalist. However, Stalin’s proclaimed policy of “socialism in one country” was not very different from the Fascists’ proclaimed policy of national socialism.

https://theindependentwhig.com/haidt-passages/sowell-the-left-right-dichotomy/

And Sowell is not hallucinating or trying to re-invent any of that:

“Lenin is the greatest man, second only to Hitler, and that the difference between Communism and the Hitler faith is very slight.” ~Joseph Goebbels, The New York Times

A while back, I consciously decided not to use the word NAZI any more and use “national socialists” or sometimes the full name. You would be amazed at the number of times people ask: “who is that?” – literally thinking I was referring to some obscure German green party.

Try it and see.

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Observer
Reply to  Anon
June 2, 2021 2:20 am

The Nazis themselves rarely referred to themselves as “Nazi”, as this word was already a slang term for an ignorant and clumsy person. A detractor started using it as a play on the word “sozi”, which was slang for their rivals the Social Democrats.

Anon
Reply to  Observer
June 3, 2021 8:40 am

Thanks for that detail… it is more interesting than I thought.

MarkW
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
June 1, 2021 9:15 am

They allowed private property, but only so long as you used it in the manner dictated by the party.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
June 1, 2021 5:50 pm

One disagreement. (Sort of)
Whether or not they were both left or not, what makes them the same is that they were both Totalitarian forms of Government to preserve the power of those on top.
The US Government was founded upon the ideal that all are created equal and have individual rights and the purpose of Government is to preserve those rights.
But we’ve been creeping into Animal Farm’s “All animals are created equal …. but some animals are more equal than others.” for many decades now.
The Nazis and the Communist jumped into it whole hog very quickly.

Anon
Reply to  Gunga Din
June 3, 2021 8:45 am

Yeah, it makes you question the whole Left-Right political spectrum that we were taught. A better spectrum might be: Democracy-Totalitarian. It is interesting that so much of what we have been taught might have been mis-constructed either out of ignorance or for a reason.

Patrick healy
Reply to  Felix
June 1, 2021 12:03 am

Hemmm,
National Socialist Party of Germany and (National) Marxist Party of Russia. Not any space between them really.
Seeing as they were both spawned in Germany.

Lowell
May 31, 2021 7:17 pm

How does this story even make sense with Russia and Putin being so anti woke? Sounds like more fake news.

Felix
Reply to  Lowell
May 31, 2021 9:46 pm

Woke is just another fad excuse to gain and hold power.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Felix
May 31, 2021 10:46 pm

Woke is just a kitsch term for Soviet political correctness, but with more empathy.

Observer
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 2, 2021 2:21 am

Modern Russia is in most respects less like the USSR than the US is.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Observer
June 2, 2021 9:57 am

Perhaps, but I wasn’t talking about modern Russia. I was comparing wokeness to Soviet political correctness, in which no one revealed anything personal about themselves to anyone else.

Richard Page
Reply to  Lowell
June 1, 2021 5:17 am

Woke is conspiracy theory ideation. ‘This too shall pass’.

markl
May 31, 2021 7:20 pm

Who cares what entertainment people (sports, acting) think?

lee
Reply to  markl
May 31, 2021 8:58 pm

“think”? That is a bridge too far.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  lee
May 31, 2021 11:06 pm

That’s right, they didn’t get to where they are today by thinking.

DMacKenzie,
Reply to  markl
May 31, 2021 10:59 pm

Its only fair that Russia gets its fair share of Hollywood egotists.

markl
May 31, 2021 7:22 pm

Forgot to add music as well to the entertainment people that I could care less what they think. I don’t watch/listen to them for their personal opinions.

Andre Den Tandt
Reply to  markl
May 31, 2021 8:07 pm

Try “couldn’t care less”.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Andre Den Tandt
May 31, 2021 9:07 pm

Both are ok. Expressions change over time. I find saying ‘I could care less’ stronger than ‘I couldn’t care less’ ie.- I could expend the energy of caring less but I can’t be bothered.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
May 31, 2021 10:56 pm

Both are not OK. Some expressions “change over time”, but not that one. “I could care less” and “I couldn’t care less” have exactly opposite meanings. Could and could not are different.

Your ‘ie.’ is nonsense.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Rory Forbes
May 31, 2021 11:30 pm

Your opinion. I could care less.

Last edited 2 months ago by Alexy Scherbakoff
David A
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
June 1, 2021 2:47 am

I am glad you value his opinion.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  David A
June 1, 2021 3:21 am

One of my small pleasures in life is getting up the nose of grammar nazis.

DonM
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
June 2, 2021 11:00 am

Grammar national socialist German workers party activists?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
June 1, 2021 11:40 am

Thanks for acceding to my opinion. However, you must know that inventing your own grammar because you’re too lazy to follow the rules causes nothing but confusion.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 1, 2021 4:23 pm

You knew precisely what markl meant.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
June 1, 2021 6:13 pm

I knew precisely what he believed he said, insofar as it is close to what was intended. However, anyone who objects to well intended corrections and then gets defensive about it is a fool.

TonyG
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 1, 2021 7:49 am

While I understand what Alexy is saying, I find the loss of precision in language troubling, and it is exacerbated when we willingly go along with it.

I think this loss of precision in language is closely related to the sloppy thinking we see all around in the present era.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  TonyG
June 1, 2021 11:44 am

Attacking someone as a “grammar Nazis” for being corrected on bad syntax or spelling generally indicates the reliability of any other assertion they make. Where do they draw the line? I agree that lowering the standards of written English is having adverse effects on our ability to communicate.

Last edited 2 months ago by Rory Forbes
Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 1, 2021 5:45 pm

I might suggest to Anthony, that he institutes an English language test before any person can post a comment here.
You can be appointed the ‘school marm’ with the steel-edged ruler and red pen.
I guess what Einstein said would be dismissed by you because English wasn’t his first language.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
June 1, 2021 6:17 pm

This thread isn’t about improper usage of English. It’s about using a well known saying in a way that gives it the opposite mean. When corrected, or even arguing about it shows wilful ignorance.

You’re no Einstein and your defensiveness is becoming progressively sillier.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 1, 2021 6:53 pm

Meaning.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  TonyG
June 1, 2021 4:24 pm

Agree 100%

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
June 1, 2021 6:20 pm

If you agreed with Tony, you wouldn’t have continued making the posts you did.

Observer
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 2, 2021 2:23 am

“I could care less” adds a biting sarcasm to the expression. Trying saying it with a Brooklyn accent.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Observer
June 2, 2021 10:43 am

I have no idea why people are digging in their heels trying to justify the improper use of a well known saying. It doesn’t matter what accent is used. “I could care less” is definitely a variant that didn’t come into the language until quite recently, but usually marks the writer’s level of education. Merriam Webster mentions:

He hasn’t heard from the department since. Apparently, they could care less.

The Chilliwack Progress (Chilliwack, Can.), 6 Jan. 1954

Personally, I’ve consoled myself with the fact that some people will continue to use bad English, often on purpose, despite what others think. It seems, in the modern world, many couldn’t care less about using proper syntax or spelling.

MrDad2U
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 2, 2021 1:22 pm

According to Merriam-Webster, both are accepted as correct usage. IMO, the most germane quote from this link
is “if you are the kind of person who cries out against this abomination we must warn you that people who go through life expecting informal variant idioms in English to behave logically are setting themselves up for a lifetime of hurt”.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/could-couldnt-care-less

Rory Forbes
Reply to  MrDad2U
June 2, 2021 2:51 pm

At any other time I might have ignored the misuse, and it is an accepted misuse according to Merriam-Webster. However, these days, with the constant and intentional assault on the English language by The Left, I’ve become more attuned to encroaching bad English. In fact I was just supporting Andre Den Tandt who 1st drew attention to the phrase.

According to the OED the “could” variant is a Canadian, American and Australian colloquialism from the 1950s and ’60s. It is intended to mean the same thing, but the users were apparently less fastidious with their speech. Certain groups in the US and here in Canada go out of their way to use bad grammar and usage out of some sort of reverse snobbishness. Proper English is considered pretentious.

DonM
Reply to  Observer
June 2, 2021 11:12 am

… I could care more (but the effort isn’t worth it)

… I couldn’t care more (it is not possible)

… I could care less (but, as Alex says, the effort isn’t worth it)

… I couldn’t care less (it is not possible)

… I am going to stick with my current level of caring, regardless of the reason.

All meaningless, unless you qualify your current level of attention and thoughtfulness as associated with the subject. Without that the phrase is the same as saying PPPPtttthhhhppppt.

Dave Fair
Reply to  markl
May 31, 2021 9:21 pm

“Shut up and sing.”

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  markl
June 1, 2021 9:44 am

Why should anyone give credence to what a person thinks when their primary attributes are the good fortune to be born attractive, and be able to memorize a script and deliver it with the conviction of a prostitute trying to please her client.

TonyG
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
June 1, 2021 1:56 pm

Actually they don’t even have to memorize a script, only one scene at a time…

Sparko
May 31, 2021 7:32 pm

Satire is becoming increasing redundant nowadays

Laws of Nature
May 31, 2021 7:37 pm

Aww.. in danger of enraging some of the audience…. the are plenty of environmental protection projects which make a lot of sense, with a clear analysis of cost to do or not to do something
(this of course is in sharp contrast to climate activism)

David S
May 31, 2021 7:38 pm

Looks like I’m taking him off my Christmas list.

Abolition Man
Reply to  David S
May 31, 2021 7:47 pm

At least you don’t have to send him a fruitcake!

Bryan A
Reply to  Abolition Man
June 1, 2021 5:20 am

hard to tell which would be denser

H.R.
Reply to  Abolition Man
June 1, 2021 6:03 am

What? I send fruitcakes to the people I don’t like.

It’s a clear signal you’re on somebody’s bad side when they send you a fruitcake.

Simon
May 31, 2021 7:48 pm

Anyone who thinks Putin is OK, deserves to be sent to Russia.

Alexy Scherbakoff
May 31, 2021 7:48 pm

I wonder if his hair could be considered a blackbody.

Peter K
May 31, 2021 8:01 pm

That’s what celebrities do when they run out of work.

Richard Page
Reply to  Peter K
June 1, 2021 3:33 am

Most entertaining film he was in was ‘Executive Decision’ – the film’s dire but the scene where Seagal falls out of the aeroplane is hilarious – I howled with laughter when I first saw it.

H B
May 31, 2021 8:08 pm

Putin is convinced that the climate change is a benign non issue
a interesting departure from the current religion

garboard
Reply to  H B
May 31, 2021 8:25 pm

imagine a temperate Siberia with a navigable coastline . what’s not to like ?

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  garboard
June 1, 2021 4:27 am

And China will like it too!

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  H B
May 31, 2021 8:25 pm

Seagal and co are talking about real pollution, rather than climate change.

David A
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
June 1, 2021 2:48 am

You know this how?

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  David A
June 1, 2021 3:19 am

Did you read the article?

DonM
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
June 2, 2021 11:16 am

by ‘co’, who or what do you mean?

John
May 31, 2021 9:21 pm

looks like he is trying to get noticed
has just lost any credibility
Joins Attenborough and the other haz-beans

Alan
May 31, 2021 9:28 pm

If he likes Putin, does that make him a Trump supporter?

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Alan
May 31, 2021 10:58 pm

You just won the internet for May 31st.

David A
Reply to  Rory Forbes
June 1, 2021 2:51 am

All I ever heard President Trump say about liking Putin was that he respected that Putin was striving for what he felt was best for Russia, and that he himself would do what he thought was best for the United States.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  David A
June 1, 2021 11:50 am

In the world of diplomacy, Trump’s response was letter perfect. It was complementary to Putin’s loyalty to his own country, while showing he would continue to do what’s best for the US. It was a reiteration of his US first policy that the world was beginning to respect.

Rod Evans
May 31, 2021 10:41 pm

To paraphrase that famous French philosopher.
” When the seagull follows the Putin trawler, it is because he expects sardines to be thrown overboard.”
Life is so simple to understand, when you study French philosophy……

Ed Zuiderwijk
Reply to  Rod Evans
June 1, 2021 5:04 am

That philosopher could deliver a mighty kick as well. ☺

Observer
Reply to  Rod Evans
June 2, 2021 2:29 am

“When the seagull follows the Trump trawler, it is because he expects sardines to be thrown overboard.”

Gee, this understanding life business is so easy!

Joel O’Bryan
May 31, 2021 10:59 pm

Seagal came to Hurlburt Field (home of USAF special ops) in around 1992 or 1993 as I recall to get acquainted with how USAir Force Spec Ops. As I recall no one who met him was impressed and everyone to a man thought he was a massive D/$k.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
June 1, 2021 9:55 am

Back in the ’70s, when I was regularly training in Aikido, there was a story going around the dojo that when on a movie set, Seagal issued a challenge to everyone. A Japanese stunt-double stepped forward and accepted the challenge. He quickly subdued Seagal and choked him out. I can’t provide support for the veracity of the claim. I only offer it up as another opinion of someone who obviously has a high opinion of himself.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
June 1, 2021 10:22 am

Well, Sea-gal has a new nartial arts move….he grabs his opponent in a bear hug and falls on top of him – SPLATT!

Redge
May 31, 2021 11:11 pm

Once a bad actor, now a Bad Actor

Richard Page
Reply to  Redge
June 1, 2021 5:20 am

He’s been bad, awful at times but an actor? Please don’t mistake an ability to stand in front of a camera and recite from a script for actual acting.

June 1, 2021 12:58 am

I don’t like to see WUWT getting swept along in a cultural tide of Sinophobia and Russophobia.
I do not consider the USA, UK or Europe to be in any way whatsoever morally superior to China or Russia or anyone else.
The growing culture of racist puritannism clothed in straight-laced prudish politically correct self-righteousness I find to be nauseating and dangerous and reject it entirely.
“Black lives matter so lets kick the Chinese and Russians” is a straightforward case of moral licensing. A total disgrace.

bonbon
Reply to  Hatter Eggburn
June 1, 2021 2:29 am

USA/UK/EU are utterly and irredeemably bankrupt and fear anything like a Russia-China-USA bank re-organization. That paradigm is taking shape, so the UK sends its new Royal Navy Carrier to China. That is laughable, even more than NATO’s Rasmussen musings about Ruling the Waves, again.
Still, a Gulf of Tonkin is exactly what that bankrupt gang are looking for.

David A
Reply to  bonbon
June 1, 2021 3:09 am

The global financial system is bankrupt, including China. China’s international behavior makes the Robber Barron’s look like a 6th grade bully. Despite a few strong words, Biden’s actions are aiding China to the detriment of much of India, Asia, Australia, indeed, to most the world.

bonbon
Reply to  David A
June 1, 2021 4:34 am

Bankruptcy is not the point, rather the action needed to avoid a world depression. in 1934 FDR took action against the economic royalists, who thought they were above law.
This time we have the greatest infrastructure program of history, the Belt and Road Initiative, funded outside the bubble blowers. The USA joining in this was Trump’s effort which caused a real nervous breakdown in London. Result, a color revolution right in D.C.
So now with revived Glass-Steagall, BRI and major crash programs of development we see the way out of Prince Charles’ Great Reset.

David A
Reply to  Hatter Eggburn
June 1, 2021 3:02 am

Your moral equivalence between Communists China and the Soviet Union, compared to the USA is over the top.
( Despite the last 25 years of US actions comprising, IMV, our worst behaviors.)

Our treatment of Native Americans being excluded. And although previous errors were made in this, there is a partially balancing side to that story. There is no balancing side to the democide of Russia and China.

fretslider
June 1, 2021 2:49 am

Hollyweird has an amazing surplus of morons.

Putin has journalists bumped off and anyone who opposes him gets the novel assassination method. More tea, vicar? Don’t touch that door handle etc.

The Soviet Union’s institutions have changed along with its borders, but it is still a one party state with all that entails – see above. Stalin would be pleased with the result I’m sure.

What puzzles me is the gulf between the old left and what we now call the [post-modern] left. Consider royalty and monarchy. Any Marxist/Communist/Socialist would have had them done away with. But not now. Look at the way they wet themselves over the very mentally ill Harry.

The post-modern left love democracy – as long as they’re winning. Brexit and Trump’s election showed how democratic they really are.

Seagal, I’m not familiar with him or his celluloid stuff, is just another useful idiot as far as Vlad is concerned.

Sara
June 1, 2021 4:47 am

Seagal is/was a so-so actor, all brawn and no talent. He only got work because he had that “mean pretty” face that gets attention. But an actor? My cat does a better job when she’s pestering me for catnip.

So, if Stevie-boiar went all out on the road to Moscow, he can stay there and pat himself on the back.

Richard Page
Reply to  Sara
June 1, 2021 5:23 am

I was just wondering which covid vaccine Seagal chose – Pfizer or Sputnik? Heh.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Sara
June 1, 2021 9:59 am

He actually has some martial arts skills, principally in Aikido. That was his entry into movies, as it was with Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan.

bonbon
June 1, 2021 5:22 am

Look out!
President Putin has a Judo 7th Dan black belt, and Seagal is a 7th Dan Aikido.
I’m afraid people are misunderestimating the consequences!
Hint : Syria did catch the empires terror legions!

Serge Wright
June 1, 2021 6:06 am

Seagal is not the sharpest tool in the shed. The Russian environmental movement is aimed at funding green welfare recipients in the west (ie: the green climate movement) to protest 24/7 to restrict FF production so as to increase the value and sales of it’s own reserves, which are vast.

Olen
June 1, 2021 6:51 am

Looks a bit like Leon Trotsky with a lot more weight packed on.

TonyG
June 1, 2021 7:16 am

I thought “Russia Bad”? Did it change?

I can’t keep up.

Jeffery P
June 1, 2021 7:17 am

Spoiler alert — Steven Seagal is more than a little nuts.

Richard Page
Reply to  Jeffery P
June 1, 2021 1:00 pm

Looking at him he’s had the whole bowl, then gone back for more!

Anon
June 1, 2021 7:53 am

I don’t know Putin, but I have realized that I have to be careful of the Western media’s narrative driven journalism. There are a lot of things that don’t get reported.

FINANCIAL TIMES INTERVIEW:

“You really are on the same page as Donald Trump”.

https://youtu.be/FbY0VpyjtuI?t=5070

Which indicates to me, given the complete distorted portrayal of DJT, that Putin recieves the same treatment.

And this is simply and completely WRONG, it is the Russian version of Michael Moore’s Planet of the Humans, where a documentarian follows the story, where ever it leads. And it is as powerful: as Nekrasov is about to wrap up his anti-Putin film, one fact does not make sense. So he pulls on the thread and then original documentary completely implodes and unravels to the point where has to completely recut it (resulting in it getting banned):

A Blacklisted Film and the New Cold War

Why is the U.S. mainstream media so frightened of a documentary that debunks the beloved story of how “lawyer” Sergei Magnitsky uncovered massive Russian government corruption and died as a result?

Instead we – in the land of the free, home of the brave – are protected from seeing this documentary produced by filmmaker Andrei Nekrasov who was known as a fierce critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin but who in this instance found the West’s widely accepted Magnitsky storyline to be a fraud.

But the Magnitsky myth took off in 2012 when Browder sold his tale to neocon Senators Ben Cardin, D-Maryland, and John McCain, R-Arizona, who threw their political weight behind a bipartisan drive in Congress leading to the passage of the Magnitsky sanctions act, the opening shot in the New Cold War.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/08/02/a-blacklisted-film-and-the-new-cold-war/

The Magnitsky Act: Behind the Scenes

(film at bottom of page, blocked by some US ISPs)

https://swprs.org/the-magnitsky-act-movie/

So, sorry to complicate things, but I think we need to scrutinize everything the way we do climate change. Reality is a lot more complicated than comforting black and white heuristics.

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Clyde Spencer
June 1, 2021 9:27 am

Another hypocrite with a large carbon footprint. He’s gotten to where he has taken in enough calories to now weigh as much as two fit people. Those calories were made with CO2. Then, he jet sets around the world doing unproductive things like bearing gifts for corrupt dictators.

James D Russell
June 1, 2021 10:32 am

It is, perhaps, a fact provocative of sour mirth that the Bill of Rights was designed trustfully to prohibit forever two of the favorite crimes of all known governments: the seizure of private property without adequate compensation and the invasion of the citizen’s liberty without justifiable cause…It is a fact provocative of mirth yet more sour that the execution of these prohibitions was put into the hands of courts, which is to say, into the hands of lawyers, which is to say, into the hands of men specifically educated to discover legal excuses for dishonest, dishonorable and anti-social acts.
______ H. L. Mencken, Prejudices: A Selection, pp. 180-82

Gordon A. Dressler
June 1, 2021 6:08 pm

Regarding the above article’s headline: using the words “Kremlin” and “justice” is the same sentence???

Just u-n-b-e-l-i-e-v-a-b-l-e!

Last edited 2 months ago by Gordon A. Dressler
Bryan A
Reply to  Gordon A. Dressler
June 1, 2021 7:09 pm

what’s wrong with
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Pariah Dog
June 2, 2021 3:09 am

I said Seagal, stop it now!
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