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New Guinea Covid Surge Alarms Aussie Health Authorities

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

New Guinea, a large island nation which is separated from Australia by a narrow sea channel, is experiencing a surge in severe Covid cases, prompting alarm from Australian health authorities.

Papua New Guinea records worrying rise in COVID-19 cases as hospitals struggle to keep up

Key points:

  • The surge in cases came after thousands gathered at a state funeral in Port Moresby
  • Australia’s High Commissioner to PNG says Australia is keen to help as quickly as possible
  • Queensland’s Premier says she’s concerned given her state’s close proximity to PNG

Papua New Guinea is experiencing a worrying rise in COVID-19 cases and there are concerns it will get worse after mass gatherings were held to farewell the country’s first prime minister. 

The building that houses the Prime Minister’s Department has been locked down for four days after cases were detected among staff.

PNG has now recorded 2,000 cases. 

The surge came after thousands gathered at a state funeral in Port Moresby for Sir Michael Somare, who died a fortnight ago, with more events scheduled in the coming days.

There are concerns that the number of cases will jump significantly in a couple of weeks’ time as a result.

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said given her state’s close proximity to PNG, “it is something we need to be very serious about”.

“We have been assisting with some tests [there], and out of the 500 tests that our health authorities have done for PNG 250 have come back positive,” Ms Palaszczuk said.

“This is a real concern.

“Papua New Guinea is on the doorstep of the Torres Strait and Queensland, and I hope to speak to the Prime Minister or the Prime Minister’s office in the next 24 hours just to talk about our concerns there, have a look at the flights coming in.”

Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-15/papua-new-guinea-covid-cases-rise-as-qld-premier-raises-concerns/13248512

Australia is in general a geographically isolated nation, but the large chain of coral cays and shallow lagoons which connects Australia’s Cape York with New Guinea is navigable by small boat, and difficult for Australia’s coastguard to patrol.

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john K. Sutherland.
March 15, 2021 2:06 pm

‘Cases’ are NOT ‘deaths’. How good is their testing? Do they use a PCR over 35? ‘False positives’ are too common.

David Kamakaris
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 15, 2021 3:13 pm

Eric, might it have been a problem all along and it took our wonderful, straight down the middle, totally unbiased media this long to report on the issue?

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 15, 2021 3:37 pm

Yep, anecdotal evidence has it that supposed “TB deaths” have increased dramatically over the last year. 🙁

At least in Port Moresby, people are starting to take masks, social distancing and self-quarantining more seriously.

John Bayley
Reply to  StuM
March 15, 2021 8:54 pm

Yeah, because masks and ‘social distancing’ work so incredibly well that we have decades of clinical studies, plus tons of recent experience, that show exactly the opposite.

FFS….use your brains people….

ozspeaksup
Reply to  StuM
March 16, 2021 4:19 am

a lot do have MDR TB so covid or even a bad flu would drop em fast

n.n
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 15, 2021 3:24 pm

The warm climate, humid environment, and plenty of sunshine were undoubtedly mitigating factors.

Mr.
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 15, 2021 4:58 pm

Yep. Particularly with betel nut spit everywhere and folks walking around with bare feet.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  john K. Sutherland.
March 16, 2021 4:18 am

aus has been running forty to forty five cycles FFS!

Reply to  ozspeaksup
March 18, 2021 8:34 pm

and still we get no false positive. And hardly any at all.

Pamela Matlack-Klein
March 15, 2021 2:16 pm

When the “cases” start turning into corpses, then maybe start worrying. Until then, relax. Panic is the last thing you guys need to consider doing.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 15, 2021 3:49 pm

In Canada we thought we were the bee’s knees and then winter came. Nothing the Government mandated made any difference to deaths of the frail in elder care. I hope Oz is investing in positive pressure fresh air ventilation for individual rooms in long term care facilities. Canada thought that if we really believed in the effectiveness of masks then our frail would be magically protected from the aerosol borne virus. Yet again the power of believing was debunked and the frail elderly paid the price. See if you can get your politicians to read the Great Barrington Declaration. Canadian Government experts poopooed the declaration but failed to come up with anything as good, let alone better.

Loydo
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 15, 2021 10:01 pm

“…protest led to a very obvious surge in Covid deaths…”

I couldn’t find any evidence for that. What are you basing it on?

…The nation’s chief medical officer Brendan Murphy told reporters “we probably were lucky to have not seen major transmission at any of these events”.
And Victorian chief health officer Brett Sutton said the protests had not contributed to a rise in and around Melbourne.
“I don’t think the Black Lives Matter protest has contributed. We’re not seeing people who’ve clearly acquired it there,” he said.

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Mr.
Reply to  Loydo
March 15, 2021 10:12 pm

BLM marches made a mockery of governments’ stern admonishments that ALL members of the public should diligently practice 2 metres social distancing.

Seriously undermined the public’s confidence in governments’ consistence of position.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 16, 2021 4:21 am

yeah people in the csiro trained chinese student in gain of function work
handy that?

lee
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 15, 2021 7:00 pm

Beware the Monday morning flights to Cairns. The Chinese shopkeepers like to keep their money safe. Or at least they did until about 1985. Don’t know about now.

John Bayley
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 15, 2021 8:57 pm

Thanks to being an island on the other side of the world, plus having mostly warm, sunny climate.
Respiratory viruses do not ever disappear.
One that kills 0.03% of those who get it, with an average age above statistical life expectancy, must really be worth locking up Melbourne for months, Brisbane & Perth for days over a single positive ‘case’ – not even an actual ill person – and to blow the budget to the blue yonder.
Most Australians are sheep.
I would have expected better on a site like this one.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  John Bayley
March 16, 2021 4:23 am

sadly we have been inculcated very well by the pommy overlords to follow authority without much question…
thats why other stupidity like rfid chipping livestock etc was trialled here BY usa interests etc
notice you guys still refuse to do so
good on ya!

skeptic
Reply to  John Bayley
March 16, 2021 4:02 pm

Don’t want to nit pick John, but according to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries. the US death rate from covid is 1.8%, and Canada, with their socialized medicine has a death rate of 2.5%. I didn’t calculate every line in the chart, but they seem to cluster a little over 1%. All very low, but about triple what you mentioned. But I agree, not worth shutting down economies.

John Bayley
Reply to  skeptic
March 16, 2021 8:55 pm

The problem with those numbers is that we have no way of knowing just how accurate they are.
As an example, apparently the seasonal flu has disappeared this year. Every death is COVID.
How likely is that?
Secondly, the methodologies between different countries vary widely. In the UK it seems anyone who has tested positive and died within 60 days of that test, for almost any reason, is recorded as having died of COVID.
I would say perhaps the most accurate recent report has come from Ioannides et al (Stanford), which has essentially put COVID in line with any recent bad flu season.
So whether the ‘died of’ rather than ‘died with’ is 0.3% or 0.5% is academic, seeing that we have wiped out major parts of our economies, as well as caused uncountable deaths from secondary reasons (drug ODs, suicide, untreated cancers and so on), all over a bad flu.

Peter
Reply to  John Bayley
March 17, 2021 9:11 am

Slovakia was reporting “died of” Covid from start, every victim autopsied. Just recently we started counting both “died of” and “with”. Current number is around 8000 died of and 1000 died with Covid. Difference is strikingly low. Most of people died really because of Covid.
And current death rate is around 3%, during winter asymptomatic cases practically disappeared. And “British” strain of Covid doubled death rate.

Peter
Reply to  John Bayley
March 17, 2021 4:09 am

British variant of Covid is more lethal. Currently after peak in Slovakia and Czech republic and increasing or peaking in other European countries.
Its death toll is around 3%, something like double of previous variants number.
It kills also in 40-50 years range. Hell, my son’s teacher 43 years old died on this.

Peter
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 17, 2021 3:48 am

Erik, there is real difference in push of previous virus strain and “British” one. My country Slovakia was probably first hit after UK, with Czech Republic second. It was like wave coming. Currently tests are showing that around 90% of cases in SK and CZ are of British variant. We are currently on the end of wave and cases are declining finally. Other European countries are before peak or just starting to rise, just check data for Germany, Austria, Poland, Hungary.
This British strain is much more virulent, you could see it. With previous strain, if you had face mask and talked 15 minutes with positive person with mask you did not contract it. With British variant there was not 15 minutes limit anymore.
With previous variants if 4 people were traveling in car one of them positive, nobody or one got sick. With British variant 2 got sick and one not.
It is much much harder to contain. So if outbreak will occur you will probably not be able to contain it.
So stay aware and prepared.

Editor
March 15, 2021 2:35 pm

Strange how the likes of Jo Nova really take COVID seriously, yet other sceptics like Tony Heller think it’s a scam!

Joel O’Bryan
Reply to  Paul Homewood
March 15, 2021 3:08 pm

the virus is serious businesses for any public health agency charged with protecting public health. but practical, real world evidence shows lockdowns are minimally effective at best once the virus is well established in a population. The scam part arises as a power trip for politicians imposing lockdowns, that at least in the US have a questionable constitutional basis. In the US where the 1st Amendment is supposed to be inviolate, church religious gatherings are being restricted in many Democrat run states, but if you have a protest, you can have unlimited gatherings. Churches just need to call their services and gatherings protests in the name of God or Allah.
So just like there’s a difference between real climate change and the climate change, Marxist-inspired, policy scam, there is a difference between Covid and Covid, Marxist-inspired, lockdowns.
That’s my take on the “scams” at least.

Reply to  Paul Homewood
March 15, 2021 3:12 pm

Paul, been on this since the beginning since I was CEO for over a decade of a privately held antimicrobials company, and lived thru my own EAU application in the H1N1 swine flu pandemic of 2010–which killed my FDA guy. Neither extreme position is correct, in my opinion.

COVID-19 is quite serious in general for four reasons:
Age
Comorbidities like obesity and diabetes
Severe complications in some under 65s including blood clots and renal disfunction
’Long haulers’ among younger, otherwise healthy adults with persistent debilitating symptoms

But, its seriousness has also been incompetently exaggerated by both authorities and MSM. The two most egregious are:
Cranking up PCR cycles beyond about 25 to over-report ‘cases’
Confounding ‘died with’ and ‘died of’. The latter is much less than the former. My own tracking of what studies exist suggests maybe by about half.

Ordinary masks are of little use now that we now is at least partly aerosolized. So there is a lot of politicized nuttiness around, as the comparison of FL to NY shows.

commieBob
Reply to  Rud Istvan
March 15, 2021 4:00 pm

Some folks are comparing the wuflu with the Spanish flu of a century ago. link I’m having real trouble putting this all in context. ie. I really can’t tell what’s bs and what isn’t.

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Reply to  commieBob
March 15, 2021 4:37 pm

cB, I highly recommend the book, The Great Infuenza, by Barry. Best history of the 1918 epidemic I am aware of. Puts a lot of 2020 Covid-19 into perspective.

Just one example. In the 1918-19 flu, most deaths were in young otherwise healthy adults who died of ARDS, probably from cytokine storm that we know know how to treat. In the 2020 COVID-19 pandemic, most deaths were in the elderly with comorbidities like obesity and diabetes.

The 1918-19 flu deaths are variously estimated at between 52 and 100 million in a much smaller global population. The global 2020 Covid-19 overcounted (with v. of) deaths are about 2 million in a population much larger (about 7.7 billion v about 1.8 billion). Really no comparisons.

Bruser
Reply to  commieBob
March 15, 2021 5:48 pm

This recent data from the UK Office for National Statistics helped me put things into perspective. For England and Wales, every year before 2009 had a worse age-standardised death rate than 2020.

Age-standardised death rates England and Wales.png
MARTIN BRUMBY
Reply to  Bruser
March 16, 2021 1:54 am

Yes. Bruser.
But the UK ONS also turned out another chart of “infectuous and parasitic deaths” (including Covid) of which Michael Mann would be proud.

Long 100 year decline and then a 2020 spike like a sky rocket.

Worst death rate for 100 years.

Guess which chart (the one you show – which I’ve not seen before, or the hockey stick one), fills the MSM and is waved about by our Beloved Leaders?

Interesting that the popular chart leaves out influenza and other respiratory disease (which yours must include).

PsyOps agit-prop at its finest.

rah
Reply to  commieBob
March 16, 2021 3:18 am

Right off the bat you should look at the age groups with the highest mortality. The “Spanish flu” primarily killed those of an age to be considered in their prime. Quite different than what we have experienced.

james Fosser
Reply to  rah
March 16, 2021 3:16 pm

Just a thought. There was no social security in those days so people had to go to work no matter how ill they were. And those people would have been in their prime whilst the elderly sat at home.(And in my home country of the UK, the working class had no access to GPs or hospitals unless at deaths door. When the flu did hit hard, the people at the bottom were the last to ever have a chance of a nice warm bed in a hospital or a doctor to make a house call to a court with one hand pump for water and two outside toilets for a few dozen families (and they did exist in my home town at the end of WW1).

Curious George
Reply to  Rud Istvan
March 15, 2021 4:13 pm
  • Report COVID19 as the cause of death.
  • But, Doctor, he has seven deep stab wounds.
  • Add “with complications”.
Scissor
Reply to  Curious George
March 15, 2021 4:53 pm

$35,000 bonus to the hospital for dying on a ventilator.

mcswelll
Reply to  Scissor
March 16, 2021 6:44 pm

You really believe that thousands of doctors are putting people on ventilators unnecessarily? That would be a massive violation of their Hippocratic Oath. I suggest you stay away from doctors for the rest of your life.

yirgach
Reply to  Rud Istvan
March 15, 2021 5:58 pm

One of my favorite comments of 2020 was the CDC Director saying that Covid would be “under control” in 4-6-8 weeks if we all wore masks. Not only because it was so completely absurd, but because he was ignoring that ~90% of people were already wearing masks
Just spectacular work: twitter

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ev0q9fPVkAAXp7n?format=jpg&name=900×900

DaveW
Reply to  Rud Istvan
March 15, 2021 6:48 pm

Hi Rud – Any take on ‘antivirals’ like ivermectin?

One would think that the weight of evidence is sufficient for treating, e.g. the guards at hotel quarantines, with ivermectin.

If Australia actually does get into a tizzy about PNG, then it wouldn’t surprise me to see ivermectin being distributed there. Good enough for our neighbours, if not good enough for us.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  DaveW
March 16, 2021 4:28 am

it would be wise to use widely anyway due to its brilliant knockoff of so many parasites internal and external
a 2ml dose per 100kg bodyweight would cost cents and save a huge amount covid prophylaxis as a bonus
can it harm?
highly UNlikely
can it help
assuredly so

james Fosser
Reply to  DaveW
March 16, 2021 3:22 pm

Dear DaveW. Australia will provide an estimated $491.1 million in bilateral funding to Papua New Guinea in 2020-21. Total Australian Official Development Assistance (ODA) to Papua New Guinea in 2020-21 will be an estimated $596.0 million.

DaveW
Reply to  james Fosser
March 17, 2021 6:42 pm

Hi James, not sure of your point, but given how inexpensive ivermectin is, we could provide the entire population of Papua with a treatment or three of ivermectin and not budge the budget by a decimal point. I would support this with no hesitation. I’d also support making ivermectin available in Australia.

MarkH
Reply to  Paul Homewood
March 15, 2021 3:28 pm

It only seems strange because we are now quite used to a hyper controlled media where there is only one opinion or view on a matter, and if you dare to hold another then you are a crazy “denialist” or “conspiracy theorist”.

It is of course possible that they are both right. COVID may be serious, IF you get it, and you’re old and you have comorbidities or you are deficient or insufficient in Vitamin D. At the same time, it may (looks to be certainly) be overblown by governments and health authorities around the world by enacting unprecedented changes in the way a “case” is defined and by carrying out vast testing programs which have a largely unacknowledged very high false positive rate as they are used.

Why was it overblown? That’s an interesting question. You might argue that the governments around the world just really care about the health and well being of their people, but that would require you to disregard the actions of most governments for all of history. I find that prospect unlikely. Another possibility is that they saw it as an opportunity to gain more power and control over their citizens and grasped that with both hands, feet, teeth and a prehensile tail if they had one. Dubious modelling (to say the least) was used to create a panic, the panic was used to enact draconian policies with little regard to the higher level effects of these. Now we are in a situation where people in the US are going to be glad if they’re allowed out to celebrate “Independence Day”.

Scissor
Reply to  MarkH
March 15, 2021 5:14 pm

Good comment. You’re right about the single view and opinion. I seem to recall fondly that reporters used to cover at least two sides to a story.

Pittzer
Reply to  MarkH
March 15, 2021 5:17 pm

Undoubtedly, our collective life expectancy in the US continues to decline. First from opioids, now COVID. My question is, was it our response to COVID-19 or COVID-19 that did the most damage?

StevenF
Reply to  MarkH
March 15, 2021 7:51 pm

As someone who has been heavily involved in COVID from the beginning I think the original panic was due to the simple fact that humans are not an apex predator. Think about that. Built into our DNA is the normal response that in the presence of a threat we run. When one of our ancient ancestors yelled run (or whatever the warning was) you ran or you were eaten. That was how you survived to propagate the species. The individual who stopped to dispassionately assess the situation didn’t make it. The story of Chicken Little is found in many cultures throughout history. Much of the behavior of Public Health authorities and leaders in the early days was this blind herd instinct to panic.

It was only later after you were running that your brain would kick in and start wondering why you were running. So this behavior is built in to us and explains the initial global panic from COVID. But it doesn’t explain why this panic continues nor the fear mongering. That I think is explained by secondary gain that people in authority gained from the panic. But that came after the initial panic.

I feel like my profession (Public Health) has embarrassed itself with COVID. I excuse the initial response but not the subsequent fear mongering.

MarkH
Reply to  StevenF
March 15, 2021 11:50 pm

Thanks for the reply. Some rambling and probably incoherent thoughts below…

The initial response, in the first few weeks, was possibly excusable. However, we (I would like to think) have progressed somewhat out of the jungle to the point where upon the imposition of a drastic and draconian “solution” to a perceived or actual problem, we would immediately begin a sober and ongoing review of the evidence supporting such measures. The imposition of long running states of emergency and the increased powers wielded by politicians and the police are, frankly chilling, as is the general support that they have received.

It is up to the people in positions to call out the panic to do so, early and loudly. Anyone telling you to panic is trying to control you. Sometimes, for instance if you are being chased by a bear, that is a good thing. But, most of the time, the people trying to control you are doing so for their own ends.

I am not a public health professional of any sort, I’m a professional software developer. So, when I got a chance to grab a copy of the source code used for the Imperial College COVID modelling, I took a look and what is in there would not even pass muster as an undergraduate assignment.

That modelling aside, it feels like the public health response was largely co-opted by politicians pushing for tougher and tougher measures to show just how much they “cared” about the people. Unfortunately, in the current climate it would be very difficult for a public health official of any seniority to stand up and say, “No, these measures are not necessary and will not be effective”. Those people, some of whom did stand up, were cast aside and denounced as deniers.

Much damage has been done, to public health organisations, to the police, to politicians, even to our own neighbors who were encouraged to dob in people. This damage to trust will take many years to heal, if ever.

StevenF
Reply to  MarkH
March 16, 2021 2:18 pm

It was pretty obvious even in the beginning that the models were bogus. But public health does not make policy. Policy is made by politicians and even in a public health emergency all public health can do is advise. Unfortunately, in the beginning there was panic and an unwilllingness to put oneself out there when every one else was saying to panic. Even reasonable public health practitioners fell victims to that mindset. There was group hysteria. Not everyone mind you, but enough.

I think that period lasted through April. By that point, politicians liked the advantage that the panic was giving them and public health officials liked the prestige they got. Typically public health is the unwanted step child of medicine, but all of a sudden it was the most important role. Nothing like a pandemic to make you feel important.

This was a potent combination that got us to where we are today.

Izaak Walton
Reply to  StevenF
March 17, 2021 2:04 am

Actually as time goes by and the deaths toll continues to rise the models are starting to look increasingly accurate. The Imperial College model suggested that 250 000 deaths in the UK were possible if no measures were taken to control the spread. And after three lockdowns and the beginnings of a successful vaccine programme there are 125 000 deaths or about 50% of the worse
case scenario. Similarly in the US the same model predicted about 2 million deaths if the virus was left unchecked and after lockdowns and social distances the number of deaths is over half a million. Do you really want to guess how many deaths would have resulted if there were no measures taken to control the spread?

Adrianek
Reply to  Izaak Walton
March 17, 2021 3:14 pm

Now do Sweden. The models were hopelessly wrong.

Craig from Oz
Reply to  Paul Homewood
March 15, 2021 4:13 pm

No, Jo Nova took China Virus hysterically and nearly destroyed her own blog’s credibility. She claimed – and later refused to update – that it was a ‘no brainer’ that the entire Australian industry should be turned over to manufacturing respirators and face masks and, safe in her pre-existing Work From Home environment outside a major city gleefully demanded that we must now crush the curve completely by continuing maximum isolation because this was a ‘Text Book Example’.

Then she went full ‘Conversation’ and began straw manning her readers when some of them started debating her claims in her forums.

The paradox was the Jo’s education background is actually in micro-biology. So for subjects that she is not formally qualified (climate change(tm)) she was very happy to break the subject down to base points and question their interactions, but with China Virus she went straight to waving text books and quoting studies like a disciple.

Scissor
Reply to  Craig from Oz
March 15, 2021 5:18 pm

I’m coming to terms with the fact that everyone can be fooled sometimes. Anger should be directed toward those doing the fooling.

PeterW
Reply to  Craig from Oz
March 16, 2021 3:37 am

I can confirm Craig’s post.
Jo accused me of “denying the science” (funny to hear that phrase coming from the owner of a climate-scepticism blog)… but refused to respond when I laid out the science that challenged her preferred strategy.

John Bayley
Reply to  Paul Homewood
March 15, 2021 8:59 pm

Alas, Jo Nova, to whom I have in the past happily donated, totally lost her mind on this topic.
Sad, really.

tonyb
Editor
Reply to  John Bayley
March 16, 2021 12:03 am

I like jo but it was noticeable how many red thumbs down she accumulated when propounding her views

tonyb

goracle
Reply to  tonyb
March 16, 2021 3:36 am

soooooo, jo “follow the science” morphed into a cherry pick hockey sticker?

farmerbraun
Reply to  John Bayley
March 16, 2021 11:55 am

A number of us tried really hard to “climb the tree” and talk her gently down, but it was hopeless. I still don’t understand it.
Still, everyone has the right to be wrong : I do it all the time.

John Bayley
Reply to  farmerbraun
March 16, 2021 9:07 pm

Well at least she was not the only one.

I recall that the other usually sensible woman who fell for the ConVid scare hook, line and sinker was Judith Sloan.

At least Judith seems to have come to her senses since.

Peta of Newark
March 15, 2021 2:52 pm

search ‘New Guinea’ says:
Quote (a)
“”The law and order situation in Papua New Guinea continues to pose serious risks to travellers. Violent crime, including armed robbery, carjacking, home invasions and sexual assault, is common throughout the country, especially in urban areas such as Port Moresby, Lae and Mt Hagen””

Quote (b)
“” Australia’s High Commissioner to PNG says Australia is keen to help as quickly as possible“”
Methinks, Australia and in light of (a), you’re ‘A bit late to the party’

Quote (c):PNG has now recorded 2,000 cases
In a population of nearly 9 million?

Quote (d): “Queensland’s Premier says she’s concerned given her state’s close proximity to PNG”
In light of (c) above, who thinks Prozac would help?
Or even maybe a Carbon Tax for the hapless New Guineans?
Seems to be fixing Covid everywhere else

commieBob
Reply to  Peta of Newark
March 15, 2021 3:30 pm

I bin bagarapim … or something like that.

March 15, 2021 3:01 pm

Governments are looking for reasons to be alarmed so that they can justify continuing lockdowns and health mandates.

MarkH
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
March 15, 2021 3:33 pm

Has it ever changed?

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

  • H.L. Menken, (In 1920 I believe)
goracle
Reply to  Jeff in Calgary
March 16, 2021 3:39 am

govt is drunk on power right now… this will only end when you, me, and at least 1/2 of the population and private businesses say no… and not 1 minute sooner

Nick Graves
Reply to  goracle
March 16, 2021 1:33 pm

True – Dr Reiner Füllmich’s hearing has been listed for 9 November.

I suspect the process will take longer than Diesel gate.

So we can’t wait for due process.

n.n
March 15, 2021 3:19 pm

Malnutrition (e.g. Vitamin D) matters. Also, fat is beautiful is a comorbidity and a first-order forcing of disease progression and excess deaths.

Case as in infection? Probably asymptomatic fecal transmission. Wash hands with soap and water to destroy the virus and mitigate cross-contamination and spread. Otherwise, be aware of symptomatic transmssion through forced expulsions, including: sneezing and coughing.

Disease progression? There are early (e.g. HCQ cocktail) and late stage (e.g. Ivermectin protocol), inexpensive, effective, low-risk treatments, denied and stigmatized in America, but available globally.

Don’t forget the goggles. The eyes are a window to social and viral contagion diving herd stampedes.

MarkH
Reply to  n.n
March 15, 2021 4:01 pm

The Vitamin D issue may not be wholly unrelated to obesity. Obese people need to take in more Vitamin D to achieve the same serum levels. E.g.: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28915134/

n.n
Reply to  MarkH
March 15, 2021 4:35 pm

Yes, Vitamin D is fat soluble.

March 15, 2021 3:29 pm

“New Guinea, a large island nation”. Please! The nation is Papua New Guinea (aka PNG).
New Guinea is the large Island shared by PNG and Indonesia.

March 15, 2021 3:31 pm

“The surge in cases came after thousands gathered at a state funeral in Port Moresby”
No, the funeral was only a few days ago. The surge was already in progress, but doubtless, the funeral will become a super-spreader event.

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William Astley
March 15, 2021 3:31 pm

 
This is unbelievable…. Bangladesh, population 165 million people …. Covid death rate yesterday… 18 people…… Unbelievable that the cheap medicine invermectin is not being in the US and other Western countries.

It does not make sense that cheap effective treatment and as a prophylactic for Covid are being hide.

Bangladesh’s super low covid death is because Bangladesh is using existing medicines, Invermectin to treat covid early and as a prophylaxis.

Invermectin when used a prophylaxis, reduce the incidence of getting covid… In health care professional by a factor of five.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/bangladesh/

In Bangladesh, doctors are using combination ivermectin/doxycycline therapy for home care, as are major hospitals in Dhaka for inpatients.

“The economy is flying,” Dr. Tarek Alam, who led several studies on the drug’s efficacy, told me in an email. “Hospitals have empty COVID beds and the initial demand for ICU has come down.” Indeed, Bangladesh – the world’s most densely populated country — has an even lower fatality rate than India, ranking 126th globally.

Efficacy and Safety of Ivermectin for Treatment and prophylaxis of COVID-19 Pandemic

https://trialsitenews.com/an-unlikely-nation-is-kicking-this-pandemic-guess-which-then-why/
 
 

This was no small move. Were it a country, U.P.’s more than 230 million citizens would rank it fifth worldwide. As India’s largest state, its embrace of ivermectin may have changed the treatment landscape across India. 
“This authentication of ivermectin revived the faith of people,” Dr. Chaurasia told me, “and net result was a massive inclination to take these drugs” — both ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.Bangladesh’s super low covid death is because Bangladesh is using existing medicines, Invermectin to treat covid early and as a prophylaxis.
Invermectin when used a prophylaxis, reduced the incidence of getting covid… In health care professional by a factor of five.
 
 
 

 Ecacy and Safety of Ivermectin for Treatment and prophylaxis of COVID-19 Pandemic 
https://assets.researchsquare.com/files/rs-100956/v3/53276668-6e01-4aca-ba91-62b0ba80afad.pdf
 
In this study Ivermectin is very effective in preventing corona virus infection in health care or household contacts of COVID 19 patients group V (2%) compared to non Ivermectin group VI (10%). Physicians have directed the usage of ivermectin in a few synchronous trials in many countries [32], and announced that patients’ viral loads started declining very quickly after Ivermectin administration. We noticed that it has surprised physicians in clinical trials in many countries. Physicians’ noticed that just single dosage of Ivermectin could improve patient’s condition; however, some of them received a booster dose one week later. Rajter et al.[31] at the Broward Health Medical Center in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, submitted a dramatic, statistically signicant improvement in mortality in 250 coronavirus patients involved in the Broward trial treated with Ivermectin medication.
 
 

Reply to  William Astley
March 15, 2021 3:50 pm

Some scientist see Ivermectin as an alternative waiting for vacciniation.

MarkH
Reply to  Krishna Gans
March 15, 2021 4:03 pm

If there is a cheap, effective and safe treatment. Why would you need a vaccine? Particularly an experimental vaccine that has not undergone long term safety testing.

Reply to  MarkH
March 15, 2021 4:07 pm

You are right, I just stated what I was reading, the nearly same BS about HCQ. Pharma lobby at work, even with help from politics.

george1st:)
Reply to  Krishna Gans
March 16, 2021 9:14 am

Your right as well . politicians that spend billions of $ ordering millions of vaccinations are never going to admit the cheaper alternatives actually work .

MARTIN BRUMBY
Reply to  MarkH
March 16, 2021 2:06 am

Well Mark H, when you notice that HMG’s Chief Scientific Advisor, Sir Patrick Vallence, holds £600,000 worth of Big Pharma shares (must be worth far more than that, now), you wonder if that’s a clue…

n.n
Reply to  William Astley
March 15, 2021 4:39 pm

Known from spring, and well-established by summer, Ivermectin mitigates disease progression, even late stage, and normalizes community immunity.

BruceC
Reply to  William Astley
March 15, 2021 11:38 pm

It’s the same with India (NOTE: figures first published Jan 28, 2021. Updated March figures at end)

USA population: 332,113,877 (~332 million)
(Source: Worldometer – Wednesday, January 27, 2021)

Number of covid cases: 26,166,201
Number of covid deaths: 439,517 (3%)
(source: Worldometer – January 28, 2021, 04:16 GMT)

India population: 1,387,752,969 (~1.4 billion)
(Source: Worldometer – Wednesday, January 27, 2021)

Number of covid cases: 10,702,031
Number of covid deaths: 153,885 (1%)
(source: Worldometer January 28, 2021, 04:16 GMT)

Updated March 16, 2021 Worldometer figures:

USA:
Number of covid cases: 30,138,586
Number of covid deaths: 548,013

India:
Number of covid cases: 11,409,831
Number of covid deaths: 158,892

Number of Covid deaths since Jan 28, 2021:

USA: 108,496
India: 5,007

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goracle
Reply to  BruceC
March 16, 2021 3:54 am

USA covid deaths overstated by 1/3… you can thank the CDC for their guidance on classifying covid deaths.

BruceC
Reply to  goracle
March 16, 2021 1:01 pm

India has been using HQC + zinc + antibiotics in their treatment of covid cases. They’ve also been using it as a ‘preventative’ since the start of the pandemic 😉

goracle
Reply to  BruceC
March 16, 2021 6:10 pm

in USA, HCQ was blacklisted to the point where Drs were being questioned by pharmacists why they were prescribing it and were being banned from social media and network television for speaking about it (mind you, a drug with 60+ years on the market was suddenly a no go zone)… all because orange man bad… and now, with the dimensia patient in office, only a couple of weeks ago they come out and start saying that HCQ with zinc helps when administered early… it’s unconscionable what those in power who maligned HCQ did and how many people could potentially have been saved if they only had access to HCQ… heads needs to roll, people need to be publicly tarred and feathered, and more than a few should rot jail for this atrocity.

Derg
March 15, 2021 4:14 pm

I just hope they wear a mask or two because Fauci said they work or did he? ..screw science just wear the masks

And a face shield.

And get the vaccines and if the 2nd does is contaminated..well take it anyway.

Scissor
Reply to  Derg
March 15, 2021 5:32 pm

Fauci is not a very good liar, except by quantity.

rah
Reply to  Scissor
March 16, 2021 3:26 am

I am so sick of that little elfin creature. It will be wonderful the first week we can go without a “Fauci says” story.

Craig from Oz
March 15, 2021 5:34 pm

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said given her state’s close proximity to PNG, “it is something we need to be very serious about”.

Next she will be telling us you can see Russia from Alaska. Technically correct, pragmatically irrelevant.

Port Moresby to Brisbane is over 2000km. If we were to flip the regions and – for this example only – have the government in Budapest say they were watching the China Virus numbers in London and declared it was something that was ‘very serious’ and talks at the highest government levels were already taking place.

We would laugh, despite the fact that in context the high population density and extensive rail/road network of Europe between these two areas means transmission via casual travel is actually plausible.

Far North Queensland by comparison is NOT Central Europe. People are not casually catching the ferry from PNG to the tip of Australia and then jumping on the train, stopping at the multiple population densities to relax and take in some casual shopping. People get from PNG to QLDS via plane and in case no one has been paying attention, flights in and out of Oz are ALREADY heavily monitored.

Annastacia is big noting.

PeterW
Reply to  Craig from Oz
March 16, 2021 3:47 am

Pardon me, but there are these things called boats. If you examine the map, you may notice that the closest Australian territories to the PNG coast can be accessed by the ubiquitous alloy dinghy with outboard motor. In fact, the distance has been covered in dugout canoes.

This is not to mention yachts and fishing boats…. both of which obtain fresh food and other services from local ports.

Nor do all aircraft inevitably land at international airports in Darwin or Brisbane. The propensity of smugglers to use light aircraft and land in remote areas is well known.

ozspeaksup
March 16, 2021 4:17 am

would be useful to have the area the cases are from
the lowlands have malaria so use HQ etc
the highlanders dont have that issue as far as I know
funny its taken so long to start up there..
the aboriginals in the top end are already yelling about their precious heritage elders needing immediate vax cos of how they choose to live 10 or more families to a house theyve trashed

March 16, 2021 7:06 am

“A worrying rise”? By how much? How many cases? What’s the increase over previous? How many of those cases have required hospitalization?

There are “concerns” that it will get worse because of a mass gathering…concerns are not facts.

There have been cases detected among staff…how many? Is the rate higher than amongst the general population? By how much?

“PNG has now recorded 2000 cases” and how many of them have been during this “surge”? What’s the increase been since the “surge” started? They give us the total number to sound dramatic, but nothing relevant to the story itself. That tells me that the actual numbers don’t support the premise.

“There are concerns that the number of cases will jump significantly in a couple of weeks’ time as a result.”

There have been lots of “concerns” during this “pandemic”. There were concerns that 2 million people would die in the US. There were concerns that the Sturgis motorcycle rally last year would result in a huge surge of cases and deaths. There were concerns that Florida removing restrictions last September would result in a huge surge of cases and deaths.

Concerns aren’t crises and most of them have been proven false. Strangely, I haven’t seen breathless news reports about how the sensationalist predictions failed to come true.

I’m a bit disappointed that WUWT would repost such a meaningless “report”. This is sensationalism without substance at its finest.

Gary Hills
March 16, 2021 8:12 am

But is anybody sick?

Stephen Skinner
March 16, 2021 11:58 am

Edgar Hope Simpson studied the seasonality of influenza type viruses and for this time of year and at the latitude in question there will indeed be a surge in cases. It is the same every year. Australia will start to see cases rising right about April and will climb all the way to June, the steepest increase at the end of June. They can do the Lockdown and mask thing again and destroy society and the way society works, but at least some lives have been saved; Only those lives affected by SARS-CoV-2 and variants. For anyone affected by any other illness it’s tough s***t.

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