California Releases Report Charting Path to 100 Percent Clean Electricity

Twitter thread from the California Energy Commission

⚡️#CalEnergy, @californiapuc, & @AirResources today released the first joint agency report examining how the state’s electricity system can become carbon-free by 2045.
Read here: https://bit.ly/2QaaUHh

#CAClimateAction #CleanEnergyFuture #SB100

⚡️The report is the initial analysis called for in #SenateBill100.

#SB100 is the state’s landmark policy requiring renewable & zero-carbon energy resources supply 100% of electric retail sales to customers by 2045.

#CAClimateAction #CleanEnergyFuture #RenewableEnergy

⚡️The report found that the goals of #SB100 can be achieved, but reaching them will require significant investments in new & existing technologies. It also requires an increased, sustained build-out of #CleanEnergy projects to bring those resources on-line.

⚡️ #SB100 builds on the significant progress CA has already made toward a #CleanEnergyFuture including efforts that promote renewable energy, energy efficiency & storage technologies.

#CAClimateAction is essential as the state continues to face the damaging effects of #ClimateChange like never before.

Originally tweeted by California Energy Commission (@CalEnergy) on March 15, 2021.

Here is the full press release.

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John Bell
March 15, 2021 6:08 pm

Utopia is always 10 years in the future, but trying to get there always makes things worse.

StevenF
Reply to  John Bell
March 15, 2021 8:08 pm

The sad part is that we have to wait 24 years for California’s success.

Reply to  StevenF
March 16, 2021 1:05 am

Under the given conditions, define “success”, I think, we will see results, bad results, but no success.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Krishna Gans
March 16, 2021 7:31 am

I think Steven was taking the p!ss Krishna, having an ironic laugh.

If the democrats didn’t conspire to fcuk things up, they would have nothing to pretend to fix – no job, no salary, no parasitism of humanity. What a waste of their lives, and they only have one.

Strangely though, given that I live in California, none of the libtardism has any effect on me. If it ever does, I’ll be philinsomewhereelse.

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willem post
Reply to  StevenF
March 16, 2021 3:19 am

Hi Steve,

You are too optimistic.

We will have to wait FOREVER for California to be successful!!

Solar panels, and wind turbines, and battery storage, all over the place, would at least triple electricity costs/kWh, even if battery costs decreased.

What a visible mess.

NUCLEAR WOULD BE SOOOO MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE

Californians would face a poor economic prospect, plus be loaded down with at least 10 to 15 million unverified, unhealthy, uneducated, unskilled, undocumented, illegal immigrants.

No funds would be a valuable, because people with means would leave, i.e., California would NEVER have the means to carry out 100% RE

MarkW
Reply to  willem post
March 16, 2021 7:44 am

Electricity costs would triple, even if batteries were free.

Inspector kemp
Reply to  MarkW
March 16, 2021 9:05 am

It is amazing – that is what the math says.

Look you can do anything if you don’t care about energy prices. Run the state on stationary bikes and hire a million people to ride them. So? What you want to do is power the state for a reasonable cost. 8 times more battery construction, and 3 times more wind and solar costs a LOT more to build. Even if they are free – you need the labor and land to install them, along with the management and inverters and transmission lines. Bigger = $$$.

Monster
Reply to  Inspector kemp
March 16, 2021 11:38 am

“Even if they are free – you need the labor and land to install them, along with the management and inverters and transmission lines. Bigger = $$$.”

From a Californian politician’s point of view, that’s a feature, not a bug. Big boondoggles to hand out to unions = lots of votes.

Sciguy54
Reply to  MarkW
March 16, 2021 2:47 pm

As I type this, 14:30 PDT 3/16/2021, solar provides 55% of the total CAISO grid demand. If you double the solar capacity, you will have to shut down every other source AND curtail some solar, or else store the excess with some currently unbuilt capacity at a cost per kWh which exceeds the wholesale price of electricity. This is going to get really ugly very quickly

MarkW
Reply to  Sciguy54
March 16, 2021 9:30 pm

2:30pm is just about max output.
California must be about cloudless today.

willem post
Reply to  Sciguy54
March 17, 2021 2:16 am

You would need ALL OTHER generators to provide electricity during peak demand hours, after solar has gone to sleep at about 5 pm, until about mid-morning the NEXT day, which hopefully will be sunny, and hopefully there will be some wind as well.

This ship is run by RE fools.

Throw the whole lot overboard, starting with Newsom.

willem post
Reply to  MarkW
March 17, 2021 2:07 am

Mark,

I agree 100%.

With TURNKEY costs of mass-produced, grid-scale battery systems, at a dream-like $100/kWh, as AC delivered to the grid, electricity prices would quadruple or more.

RelPerm
Reply to  willem post
March 16, 2021 9:10 am

COAL AND NATURAL GAS WOULD BE SOOOO MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE

StevenF
Reply to  willem post
March 16, 2021 2:28 pm

I should have put success in quotes. I was implying the irony of having to wait 24 years to see that what they want to accomplish will be terrible. It would be much better to get to that end state in a year or two so that we can actually see how bad their judgement really is.

Bryan A
Reply to  StevenF
March 16, 2021 5:20 am

It’s most unfortunate that the path to Utopia often leads to Dystopia

Rory Forbes
Reply to  John Bell
March 15, 2021 9:39 pm

By definition “Utopia” will never be in the present, since by definition it means an imaginary and indefinitely remote place. Such places are what posturing politicians always promise a gullible populace.

Bryan A
Reply to  Rory Forbes
March 16, 2021 5:59 am

Plus a billion

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Johnny Cuyana
Reply to  Rory Forbes
March 16, 2021 6:24 am

Forbes, yep, indeed, correct you are to write: “Such places are what posturing politicians always promise a gullible populace.”

But, permit me to modify this slightly … so as to put a point on it: Such places are what SELF-SERVING politicians always promise an UNEDUCATED-IGNORANT populace.

Self-serving politicians — that is, any and all of those whose primary interest has been to control others … in order that they may be available to “serve” him — have been with us since the beginning of humanity; where, the primary way by which they have been successful is when the “masses” have remained uneducated to where they have been brain-washed, duped, and indoctrinated.

Note: both of these entities “fail” when neither of them possesses a functioning moral compass.

Neo
Reply to  Johnny Cuyana
March 16, 2021 9:35 am

Back in the 80’s, I came across one of those magazines for “executives”.
It had a story about hiring software consultants.
The story went that a junior employee runs into his boss saying .. “Boss. We have a problem here. This software isn’t going to work. The customer will be unhappy. We will never get work again.”
The Boss pulls out a list of the Fortune 500 companies and says: “By the time we screw every company on this list, the managers who hired us will be either dead, retired or moved on to another company.”

Politicians depend on shorter memories.

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Rory Forbes
Reply to  Johnny Cuyana
March 16, 2021 10:41 am

Note: both of these entities “fail” when neither of them possesses a functioning moral compass.

And therein lies the takeaway wisdom.

george1st:)
Reply to  John Bell
March 15, 2021 9:49 pm

Same as the ‘ Climate catastrophe ‘ , end of life as we know it .
The warmist’s energy policies are hurting us far worse than the warmer climate .

philincalifornia
Reply to  george1st:)
March 16, 2021 7:34 am

….. which isn’t really all that much warmer.

Peta of Newark
Reply to  John Bell
March 15, 2021 10:03 pm

John Bell – you perfectly nailed it

Because the ’30 years hence’ is when almost all the muppets making these claims will be aiming to retire.
(Assume a 40 year ‘working career’ with 10 years initial apprenticeship)
See now where the ’30 year climate baseline comes from?

They want everything to be nice and lovely and peaceful and flowers and rainbows and unicorns and settled Disneyland for when they retire and embark on their Golden Years

Of course, who can blame them, who would NOT want that?

Otherwise = pure unadulterated selfishness made worse that everyone else, especially today’s kids, are expected to pay for it via deficit building, money printing, Municipal Loans and Gilts that require inflation to devalue the money so that even just a token can be paid back

Yes they are ‘thinking of the children‘ as they always claim – as serfs & slaves to fund their own Lovely Lifestyles and golden retirements.

Nice example here
Remember, the kids in that story are running up a debt at the rate of easily £15,000 per year over at least 3 years – then are treated like that….
christ. what. a. mess.

Now we get this coming over the hill…
One single person can be fined £2,500 just for ‘making a noise’
Welcome to ‘Police State UK’

….concurrent with this:
Quote: “”Boris Johnson said footage of officers forcibly removing a number of women from the event was “distressing”.“”
Looks like Police State is already here, or, are the police in a bigger mentally dysfunctional ‘state’ than our politicians?

To say our Elders & Betters are running scared, scared shitless in fact, has got to be the Understatement Of The Century
Scared for their own precious self important little selves while claiming concern for everyone else – kids especially repeatedly as we all here know.

Climate Change is just one small part – we are in really deep shit right here & now

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Streetcred
Reply to  Peta of Newark
March 15, 2021 11:13 pm

They learned this behaviour from the VicPol in Australia.

saveenergy
Reply to  Peta of Newark
March 16, 2021 1:58 am

This is how UK police assault women for holding a peaceful vigil for a woman (Sarah Everard) murdered by a policeman.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIF.jJBmnD6PFArfLXd0cpDrtg%26pid%3DApi&f=1

Reply to  saveenergy
March 16, 2021 2:56 pm

allegedly murdered by a policeman, at this stage, I think.

Auto

Neo
Reply to  John Bell
March 16, 2021 9:28 am

Communism is always “just over the horizon”

Monster
Reply to  Neo
March 16, 2021 11:44 am

No, sometimes you get there, and a lot of people die. USSR, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, etc…

Observer
Reply to  Monster
March 17, 2021 3:40 am

Communism is a utopian, State-free society. To achieve it, all means of production and property must first be seized by the collective (“socialism”) and then redistributed to the workers (“communism”).

None of these countries ever got beyond the “socialist” phase of the communist revolution, for obvious reasons: you have to be either a psychopath or ideological fanatic to coercively expropriate everyone’s private property,and such people gave absolutely no inclination to give up power once they’ve achieved it.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Observer
March 17, 2021 6:40 am

+100

noaaprogrammer
March 15, 2021 6:09 pm

Thanks to the “Biden” administration which has baled out California’s ailing school system in the latest stimulus bill, California now uses its fungible monies for its green pursuits.

Spetzer86
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
March 15, 2021 7:57 pm

Don’t look now, but old JB and Co. are planning to reproduce CAs “success” around the country. All you have to do is pay for it. Well, and then keep on paying.

Bryan A
Reply to  Spetzer86
March 16, 2021 5:28 am

At least California Climate Action got the acronym correct

Rory Forbes
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
March 15, 2021 9:41 pm

None of that nearly two trillion dollars will ever be distributed. It’s all just posturing and virtue signalling.

MarkW
Reply to  Rory Forbes
March 16, 2021 9:33 pm

It will be distributed, however the people who actually receive the money are not the people we are being told will receive the money.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  MarkW
March 16, 2021 11:08 pm

Let’s face it, they’ve been at this swindle for so long, we really have no idea where the money will end up. I just know that Obama “retired” to a 15 million dollar waterfront villa on only a few of years a civil servant’s income, having never worked a day in his life (and he ain’t all that bright). It you have the power and organization to “fix” a presidential election you can do pretty much anything. I don’t think people know just how large 2 trillion actually is.

MarkW
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
March 16, 2021 9:32 pm

I thought they were going to use the money for trips to Hawaii?

SMC
March 15, 2021 6:13 pm

Geez. Can California just fall into the ocean already? Please?

MarkW
Reply to  SMC
March 15, 2021 6:38 pm

I’ll bring a couple of crow bars.

another ian
Reply to  SMC
March 16, 2021 1:21 am

Make sure it doesn’t float please! We don’t need it washing up on the east coast of Australia

philincalifornia
Reply to  SMC
March 16, 2021 7:40 am

Hey that’s not nice. I gave it a like though.

We did build the greatest free-market capitalist machine in human history. Why do you think we have to lie so hard about being nice ??

Walter Sobchak
Reply to  SMC
March 16, 2021 7:47 am

“California tumbles into the sea.
That’ll be the day I go back to Annandale”
My Old School- Steely Dan

Kevin kilty
March 15, 2021 6:18 pm

Somewhere on this path surely lies CandyLand.

Jim Whelan
Reply to  Kevin kilty
March 16, 2021 10:30 am

The only problem being that every time you draw a card it says, “go back to start”.

H B
March 15, 2021 6:23 pm

What part of reduce the fuel load in the forest do they not understand

Craig from Oz
Reply to  H B
March 15, 2021 9:29 pm

I think the bit where it takes several years of mismanagement to build up enough fuel load to truly drive a major farce up on a fire.

It is like here in my part of the world where about half of Kangaroo Island burnt at the start of 2020. Yes it is bad, but it also ignores all the years before and after 2020 that half the island DIDN’T burn. No devastating bushfires this summer just past after all.

Information can be both truthful and utterly pointless at the same time.

No one
Reply to  H B
March 15, 2021 9:31 pm

The fire pyramid is beyond their terms of reference.

Fred Middleton
Reply to  H B
March 17, 2021 6:18 am

PNF-Plumas National Forest (my growing up years) 55% Sustained yield=180M bft/annual, duration forever unless the sun don’t show. Checker board appearance from overhead. 40+ Year harvest cycle. In particular the super green belt (Challenge CA) yield higher. This 55% offered addition significant short time response to an unwanted fire. Harvest includes dozers, water trucks, fallers, and most important of any resource – workers that are familiar with and comfortable in operations on steep slope. PNF on any summer had pre-spotted owl-BS, 7 minimum logging sides all summer. Sometimes these “sides” had adjacent to a yield harvest dead fall clean up (piles). On some given fire weather day nothing in place would be effective with an unwanted fire. However, when the fire weather subsided direct attack was then applicable. School boys have replaced competent foresters. It is not the fault of the school boys that the forest is mismanaged – politicians are the lice and fleas

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March 15, 2021 6:25 pm

The promise of clean energy is like the promise of infinite youth.

another ian
Reply to  John Shewchuk
March 16, 2021 2:46 am

Can we link the promise of clean energy to being generated by the promise of perpetual motion?

Bryan A
Reply to  another ian
March 16, 2021 6:01 am

Renewable Energy…Perpetual Futility

Joel O'Bryan
March 15, 2021 6:31 pm

“California …continues to face the [imaginary] damaging effects of #ClimateChange…”

and I can guarantee you that the CARB plan does not consider the demand increases that charging tens of millions of Cal resident’s mandated EVs in these time frames. And the nuclear generated electric power provided from the last nuclear plant in Cal at Diablo Canyon will be gone by 2025. These morons will make Cal so dependent on the surrounding states to pull their dumbasses out of the mess with power transfers during even routine summer hot spells there will be rolling black-outs.

The dumbasses at CARB/CalEnergy who put this report together also think that acres burned in 2020 compared to the previous 4 wet years is somehow indicative of climate change. What a bunch of morons.
If the remaining Californians allow this to happen, then they deserve to sit in dark and pay 4x – 5x times today’s rates for electricity … when they have it.

Jeremiah Puckett
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
March 15, 2021 8:13 pm

Unfortunately, Californians flee the state but don’t change their voting habits. Texas is getting bluer. New Mexico is pretty much blue. Arizona is nearly blue. Colorado recently turned blue. In the last election, we had half a dozen tax increases passed by residents. Many had failed in previous elections. Californians move to Colorado and see a sub-5% income tax and sub-8% sales tax and think “sure, we can pay more taxes.” Unfortunately they don’t open their eyes. They don’t see all the previous tax increases we’ve endured, and the legalization of pot with taxes taking us to the promised land… Yet nothing has changed. Roads are still crap. Schools are still crap. They always want more.

gringojay
Reply to  Jeremiah Puckett
March 15, 2021 9:16 pm

Only 1 thing left to do.

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Fred Middleton
Reply to  Jeremiah Puckett
March 17, 2021 6:29 am

I be a pre Californian. Attended a county meeting Nevada. 6 Out of 10 people attending – at least sounded like kaliforknia. Government has the solution. I am continuing to look for a 1st Nevada family person (historical) immigrant. Native Americans of 1520 are immigrants. Having displaced someone here before.

MarkW
March 15, 2021 6:32 pm

Step One: Get rid of everything that uses electricity.

MarkW
March 15, 2021 6:35 pm

33% in 2020?
They’ve fallen way behind even before they can get started.

It’s more like 3%.

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Waza
Reply to  MarkW
March 16, 2021 1:01 am

some data from 2018 in GWh

yearly https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/california-electricity-data/2019-total-system-electric-generation/2018

the weird thing is imported power from unspecified sources is 37% of imports or 11% of total

RelPerm
Reply to  Waza
March 16, 2021 9:34 am

Unspecified Sources – nifty way to hide imported electricity generated from coal

MarkW
Reply to  MarkW
March 16, 2021 7:47 am

The belief that they only need to increase the number of batteries by a factor of 8 is also pure fantasy. An increase of 800 would be just a start.

S.K.
March 15, 2021 6:37 pm

Their renewable energy may produce zero emissions, after they are manufactured, but they are anything but clean if you consider they are not recyclable.

Utopia will also include exorbitant energy costs and black outs.

Expect the exodus from California to continue but lets hope the Green Energy plague does not spread to other states.

Don
Reply to  S.K.
March 15, 2021 8:50 pm

That’s the problem – people leave CA for other states, but can’t seem to learn from their ruinous mistakes and keep voting for the same stupidity that forced them to leave Kalifornia in the first place.

another ian
Reply to  Don
March 16, 2021 1:29 am

They didn’t read and comprehend this then

https://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/topic/138483-here-and-there/

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  S.K.
March 16, 2021 4:08 am

It’s already here in Mass. which is also a center of the plague- moving to nearby states rapidly.

markl
March 15, 2021 6:39 pm

That’s not a plan, it’s a wish list that can’t be fulfilled with today’s technology.

MarkW
Reply to  markl
March 15, 2021 7:40 pm

Nor any foreseeable technology.

Bryan A
Reply to  MarkW
March 16, 2021 6:08 am

Nuclear would work

Dispatchable
Constant
Reliable
Weather Proof
CO2 free

And ultra high density energy production 2200MW on 12 acres

leowaj
Reply to  Bryan A
March 16, 2021 7:12 am

Bryan, of course nuclear would work. But many urban Californians have been pre-programmed to respond negatively and derisively to nuclear technology.

philincalifornia
Reply to  leowaj
March 16, 2021 7:49 am

Yep, the silly middle-aged, and old and senile white ladies around here who have moved on to the Black Lives Matter bumper stickers can still get a No Nukes bumper sticker if they want one:

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oeman 50
Reply to  Bryan A
March 16, 2021 7:47 am

All of the 2,000+MW of 24/7/365 carbon-less nuclear power in California is slated to shutdown by 2025.

MarkW
Reply to  Bryan A
March 16, 2021 7:50 am

Should have specified “renewable technology”, since that’s what the topic was.

Jeff Labute
Reply to  Bryan A
March 16, 2021 8:45 am

I’d rather have nuclear in my backyard than a wind turbine. I think you have to be programmed to accept wind. First time I saw a large wind turbine was in PEI. As the sun was setting I drove through shadows of the blades. Scared me silly. It feels creepy. These things are in horror flicks!

The horror movie “Turbines” – it’s real!!!!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2363483/

The universe is nuclear so we should be too.

Jit
Reply to  markl
March 16, 2021 1:36 am

“The report found that the goals of SB100 can be achieved, but reaching them will require significant investments in new & existing technologies.”

It ought to be an axiom that any long term plan that requires “new” technologies to work can be safely assumed to be BS.

czechlist
March 15, 2021 6:41 pm

Kalifornica will achieve 100% clean energy when they import 100% of their energy. Someone needs to check the drinking water in Sacremento . Oh, I forgot what all is legal there now.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  czechlist
March 16, 2021 9:49 am

What’s Califronia going to do if surrounding States all decide to do what California is doing and try to run their States using windmills and solar?

Today, when California runs short of electricity they import it from surrounding States. What happens when all the windmills stop working in California and the surrounding States? Answer: Blackout.

Good planning, screwballs. I call them screwballs because they just can’t seem to see this scenario in their minds. They are concentrated on building windmills, and not on the ramifications of building windmills.

High-pressure weather systems can settle down over California and surrounding States, just like they do in the rest of the U.S. and the world When that happens, the windmills don’t work. It is *inevitable* that this will happen. What’s the plan then, genuises?

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Observer
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 17, 2021 3:45 am

Solar!

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Observer
March 17, 2021 4:47 am

Are you serious?

TonyG
Reply to  Tom Abbott
March 17, 2021 7:33 am

To be fair: He didn’t say it would work, just that it’s the plan.

bluecat57
March 15, 2021 6:42 pm

Which will be filed on the fiction section.

Rusty
March 15, 2021 6:53 pm

100% zero carbon energy is easily attainable. In fact the western world can achieve this target today. Just cut the electricity, gas and water supplies and close all of the refineries.

Utopia will follow….

tygrus
Reply to  Rusty
March 15, 2021 9:13 pm

I assume Rusty was being sarcastic “Utopia will follow….” .. reality would be “Dystopia & anarchy will follow”. Human behavior & practical economics will ultimately win.

Observer
Reply to  Rusty
March 17, 2021 3:47 am

Westerners have already experienced living in carbon-neutral economies.

We call them the Middle-Ages.

Mr.
March 15, 2021 7:05 pm

“California Releases Report Charting Path to 100 Percent Clean Electricity.”

should be –

California Releases Report Charting Path to Sure-fire Economic and Societal Disaster.

(no formatting options?)

Pat Frank
March 15, 2021 7:06 pm

Let me guess: plan courtesy of Stanford’s Mark Jacobson? He already has an enviable record of success.

Regardless, FFC achieving zero carbon (zero CO2 emissions, in reality).

If CA is unable to stabilize its imagined wind and solar grid using other sources of electricity, and get copious backup when its renewable systems fail to renew, the state will crash.

But only after spending half a trillion dollars it doesn’t have to build a system that doesn’t work.

The whole thing is so far beyond criminal malfeasance that some future people will have to invent a whole new word to describe it.

Burgher King
Reply to  Pat Frank
March 15, 2021 7:24 pm

Not to worry. Nancy, Chuckie, and Joe will bail out California with massive infusions of federal cash. And when it doesn’t produce results, they’ll just send more cash.

bigoilbob
Reply to  Pat Frank
March 16, 2021 4:58 am

The suit was certainly ill advised. He should have just been happy with the fact that his co-authors backed him up, that the article itself has had 315 citations, and that the response by him and all of his co-authors to his critic has had 56, so far. Doh! Sorry Pat, touchy subject there….

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Carlo, Monte
Reply to  bigoilbob
March 16, 2021 6:46 am

Who pays you to post?

bigoilbob
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
March 16, 2021 7:13 am

Who pays you to post?”

Ironically, private sector oil and gas producers, domestic and international. Proud, adult lifelong oilfield trasher. If you saw the future and saved up (most of us didn’t), then you have no need to shill for the industry, struggling in it’s twilight.

https://isotokc.com/about-us

MarkW
Reply to  bigoilbob
March 16, 2021 7:51 am

Once again, bob displays his belief that science is run as a popularity contest.

Pat Frank
Reply to  bigoilbob
March 16, 2021 9:48 am

Mann, Bradley, Hughes, 1998 has 2466 citations, Mann has been backed up by his coauthors, while the definitive disproof of MBH 98 has only 334 citations.

And yet, MBH 98 is not only wrong but a notorious fraud.

A phony hockey stick is more dangerous than a broken one

There’s your logic, Bob. The Doh! is in your court.

redc1c4
March 15, 2021 7:19 pm

they misspelled “100% Unreliable Electricity”… and the fires wouldn’t be so bad if the green a33hats would allow thinning of the forests and controlled burns in the spring.

as a native, what my state has become is an obscenity. i console myself with the knowledge that i didn’t vote for these idiots or their propositions.

Don
Reply to  redc1c4
March 15, 2021 8:53 pm

No, you just have to suffer from their stupidity.

RelPerm
Reply to  redc1c4
March 16, 2021 9:42 am

Thinning the forests could be a great source of fuel for biomass electricity generation

H.R.
March 15, 2021 7:53 pm

The only thing I saw that was positive in there was “small hydro.” Good luck with that, though. The Save the Whales and Save the Snails crowd will put a stop to any hydro project regardless of the scale.
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As I recall, hydro wasn’t counted in renewables before. I wonder why it’s counted now?
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Oh, I suppose some crony of the pollies will be selling micro hydro generators that you can stick in the creek running through your back yard… until you get 10 neighbors in a row on the same creek and only the first one or two gets any power.

Don
Reply to  H.R.
March 15, 2021 8:54 pm

As I recall, hydro wasn’t counted in renewables before. I wonder why it’s counted now?”

Because there’s no possible way to get to 100% renewables otherwise.

Reply to  H.R.
March 16, 2021 12:55 am

“…10 neighbors in a row on the same creek and only the first one or two gets any power.”
Yeah, I remember my grampa’s farm. Used to have all these windmills to pump water. Then he took out most of them. He said there was not enough wind for all of them…
I’m sorry, HR my mate, but I have to ask you to sit down and think about that until you laugh.
More concerning is that nobody so far noticed “biomass”.
1) Coal is also biomass. So is oil. But let us agree they are talking about crop leftovers. Do they think adding “bio-” at the front gets rid of the carbon?
2) Biofuels (which is what I really think they mean) are made from speciality crops, so genetically corrupted, it is poisonous to eat. So you take good farmland, plant poisonous corn, then you raise taxes because there is a food shortage? Good going!
3) Some burn waste and call that ‘biomass’. This brings us to the core of the climastrology scam: The real danger to our continued health and welfare is pollution, a solvable problem, with costs to the polluter. Carbon dioxide, on the other hand, is fairly benign and is a byproduct of life. So, instead of cleaning up after themselves, the predatory capitalists (read: Bolshevik communists) have found a way to blame us for their mistakes, and then demand we pay to fix it, then, instead of fixing it, they pocket the money. After spending a bit on propaganda and language-raping first, of course.
Biomass my ass!

H.R.
Reply to  paranoid goy
March 16, 2021 5:46 am

paranoid goy:

I’m sorry, HR my mate, but I have to ask you to sit down and think about that until you laugh.

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Yeah, you’re right. They are all screwed at some point. (see Bollington link below)
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I was figuring some shyster who donated enough to political campaigns will sell water wheels to people along the step-above drainage ditches that are often on the perimeters of 100, 200, 300 house subdivisions and there’s little change in elevation. It would wind up much like the shysters who sell solar panels to people whose roof is poorly or sited (trees, taller buildings, not facing the sun, etc.) to capture any useful solar energy.
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Take a look at the two links and then use your imagination to think of how many people in a flat-ish subdivision with a creek that’s little more than a drainage ditch could get screwed with yet more intermittent power.
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Water Wheel electricity. – YouTube
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The second paragraph in the following describes the problem and it would be even more problematic with little change in elevation.

Mill Ponds – Bollington, the Happy Valley!
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Micro hydro power systems can work in some applications, but I was taking the cynical view in my original comment.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  paranoid goy
March 16, 2021 6:51 am

And then where does the food needed to feed 10s of millions of Californians come from? But hey, at least they can drive their EVs while scouring for food.

griff
Reply to  H.R.
March 16, 2021 2:29 am

Small hydro doesn’t actually impede the flow of streams/rivers…

Reply to  griff
March 16, 2021 7:36 am

Hydroelectric power plants taking bigger toll on fish than expected
Since 2014, a research team at the Technical University of Munich (TUM) led by Jürgen Geist, a professor of aquatic systems biology, has been investigating the effects of hydroelectric power plants on aquatic habitats and fish moving downstream. What they discovered in the process may improve future dam planning, as well as retrofitting of existing hydroelectric power plants.
While fish moving upstream can get around a dam using a fish passage, those migrating downstream often enter the machinery. Conventional power plants equipped with Pelton, Kaplan, or Francis turbines have high fish mortality due to their high rotation speed, pressure changes, and shear forces, the researchers noted.
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The team has so far analyzed seven power plants of four types in Bavaria, Germany. The types of plants analyzed include VLH turbines, Archimedes screw turbines, movable hydroelectric power plants, and conventional hydroelectric power plants, such as Kaplan bulb turbines. Assessment of a shaft power plant is planned for the future.

Reply to  griff
March 16, 2021 7:44 am

Ecological impacts of small hydropower plantson headwater stream fish: from individual tocommunity effects

Effects of small hydropower plants on habitat features
There were significant differences in habitat featuresbetween control and impacted reaches for water diversion of small hydropower plants (Tables 3 and4). In particular, impacted reaches were characterisedby shallower water depth, lower presence of total ref-uges for fish, lower abundance of riffles and higher abundance of pools. (Table 3). The substrate compo-sition was only marginally significant, with a trend of higher presence of boulders and lower of cobbles inthe control reaches.Moreover, the results of Rapid Bioassessment Pro-tocol variables showed that impacted reaches hadpoorer habitat structure and lower presence of macro-phytes (Table 4). The Rapid Bioassessment Protocolvariables showed significant differences among sites

MarkW
Reply to  griff
March 16, 2021 7:53 am

If it isn’t impeding the flow, then it isn’t generating any power.

philincalifornia
Reply to  griff
March 16, 2021 8:39 am

The legendary scientist that is griff invents yet another perpetual motion machine.

It must be so kewl to live on a planet that does not require mathematics.

Reply to  griff
March 16, 2021 11:12 am

Ah, griff. I agree with you, stuff the dweebs for pouncing on an innocent statement…
griff, maybe we agree that most of the problematic implementations of technology happen because “designers” made all the plans, instead of engineers. A small hydroplant that disrupts the habitat was probably “designed” by the chairman’s nephew. Or arty niece.
Such is life in an engineering firm run by accountants… They would insist on achieving maximum return on available resources and block the entire river; probably try to sell you the optional built-in sushi maker!

H.R.
Reply to  griff
March 16, 2021 3:45 pm

griff – You didn’t read the second paragraph of the second link, and I’m not talking rivers for home, micro applications but drainage ditches that will attract the attention of well-meaning, blue ribbon commissions which is what the posted article is about.

The first link is actually a pretty cool micro hydro setup. But note the use of a mill pond and note the change in elevation. (Mill ponds are used when there is not enough flow to produce sufficient power from stream flow alone, so the water is ‘saved up’ until there is enough potential energy stored to let loose for power.

Now imagine 10 of those 70′ or 80′ or 90′ apart all in a row with minimal change in elevation and slow-filling, small – maybe 4′ x 10′ as in the video – mill ponds. If you can’t see a problem with that and how everyone will wind up short of flow at some point, then you were dealt a hand that was one imagination card short and you were cheated by your 7th grade science teacher. (You should demand a refund.)

Now consider the history of government interference, solar panels** being a fine recent example. It is not hard to foresee that at some point, small hydro could be mandated either for everyone on a drainage ditch or incentivized via subsidy.

And instead of the nifty little application shown in the first video, a boatload of people will be watching, well… nothing much happening or in marginal cases, waiting for their turn at a little power as their mill pond fills.

You can’t stop water from seeking its lowest point and, as was also pointed out to you by , each little water wheel robs some of the energy in the flow, highly noticeable in low flow streams that might support one or at most, two water wheels.

Micro hydro can be great, but widespread use, particularly if mandated by gummint, will end in tears. I’m cynical about any significant contribution to power supply from micro hydro.
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** Note: Solar panels/power is wonderful in some applications. It’s a perfect solution in some cases. The subsidies to increase their use everywhere is where solar goes off the rails. Solar cannot deliver for all applications.

Med Bennett
March 15, 2021 8:12 pm

More nukes, and fewer morons in the CA State legislature and the Federal government, would be a good start.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Med Bennett
March 16, 2021 10:01 am

Nuclear electricity is about the only viable option for California.

California should build enough new nuclear reactors to supply California’s baseload power, and if some idiot wants to build a windmil, they can sell their windmill electiricty to Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley can buy a lot of diesel generators for use when their windmills stop working. They can afford it. The rest of California can go on about its business as usual as the nuke power plants continuously pump out the electricty.

Maybe California will get a new, better governor before long who will put a stop to this windmill/solar insanity.

March 15, 2021 8:17 pm

re: “California Releases Report Charting Path to 100 Percent Clean Electricity”

Outside of nuclear (AND nuclear could turn into “stranded assets” in this scenario) the ONLY solution to this problem is Dr. Mills SunCell ™ ‘reactor’ device, WHICH was demonstrated to a couple of hundred invited guests which included academia, business and government leaders in Washington DC back on Feb 4th and 5th of this year.

A 150 kW thermal device was shown working *in* Washington DC at the hotel where the demo and talks were held. This was an accomplishment on a par with the Wright bothers first flight at Kitty Hawk …

https://youtu.be/JJln7jVcLFA

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MarkW
Reply to  _Jim
March 15, 2021 9:06 pm

Demonstrations are meaningless.
Until you let those academics pull it apart and check what kind of stunts you are pulling under the hood, the only safe assumption is scam.

Steve Z
Reply to  _Jim
March 16, 2021 9:53 am

A typical natural-gas-fired turbine can deliver 250 MW (250,000 kW) of power, or 1,667 times more power than the “demonstration thermal device” in DC. Most commercial power plants have several gas turbines in parallel.

The Wright Brothers’ first flight was an achievement in its time, but it only carried one man about 200 feet along a beach before landing. Modern aircraft can carry hundreds of passengers for thousands of miles, at much higher speeds than the Wright Brothers’ plane, without refueling. The Wright Brothers’ plane was also powered by a gasoline engine, since they realized that human muscles could never generate enough power to lift a person off the ground for more than a few seconds.

Do the inventers of the “demonstration thermal device” in DC have the wherewithal to multiply the power output of their device by 2,000 or more, without using fossil fuel?

WR2
March 15, 2021 8:31 pm

Lots of good intentions on that path, so we all know where it’s going.

March 15, 2021 8:35 pm

IDIOTS!

March 15, 2021 9:49 pm

Yeah, either do all that wasteful stuff, or build a few nuclear plants.

Jeff Reppun
March 15, 2021 9:55 pm

Key points from press release:

“….the goals of SB 100 can be achieved in different ways, but reaching them will require significant investments…. It (this report) will be followed with additional analyses of energy reliability and evolving conditions.”

So, it’s going to cost you alot and if you want it reliable, it will cost even more.

Lynn Zaring
March 15, 2021 11:12 pm

Texas: Watch me collapse the power grid with federally subsidized expensive clean energy.

California: Hold my beer.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Lynn Zaring
March 16, 2021 10:07 am

The California elites don’t think California is vulnerable to what happened in Texas because it doesn’t get very cold in California.

They seem to have overlooked the fact that the wind stopped blowing over the central US during the arctic cold front. This was caused by a high-pressure weather system settling down over the area and causing the winds to fall off over the whole area of the central United States.

California won’t get as cold as Texas, but California certainly has times when a high-pressure system will settle down over it and the winds stop blowing on these occasions, too, so California is not immune from having all their windmills stop working at the same time for lack of wind. Just like Texas.

It is reckless to try to depend on windmills for your primary power. It is a fatally flawed plan. We saw a little of what is to come by building more windmills with the power outages that happened all over the central U.S. during the cold snap because the windmills in this area were not working properly for lack of wind and this caused rolling blackout all over the area, with Texas having the worst time of it, because Texas has the most percentage of windmills operating, and so took a bigger hit when they went down.

It looks to me like all these power grids have put about as many windmills on their grids as they can safely handle. They almost did not handle the last potential blackout of the whole grid, but they got by enough to keep most of it running. Add more windmills without adeqate backup and you won’t get out of the next high-pressure weather system stress on the grid.

We have just about reached Peak Windmill. Adding more will put the electrical grid and our livelihoods in jeopardy.

A word to the wise is sufficient.

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Rod Evans
March 16, 2021 12:58 am

If California ceased to exist and produced no contribution to global atmospheric gas the concentration of CO2 would continue to rise in line with the change in global temperatures and fall in line with those changes when they decline.
California is suffering from a delusion of grandeur. How does a state of the Union whose prime reputation across the world, is the fabrication of make believe films ever consider itself important enough to dictate energy policy to others?
It will make interesting viewing over the coming years as the journey along the yellow brick roads leads them to a man hidden behind a curtain. I suspect the wizard will then reveal himself, sporting a full beard and waving a hockey stick.
Maybe even develop a little tune appropriate to the endeavour.

“Were off to see the buzzard
The wonderful buzzard that was
We hear he was a wiz of a wiz
Before the wiz of the whirling wind that was
Now we can’t see the buzzard that was
Because, because, because… he was”.

SAMURAI
March 16, 2021 1:54 am

Western Civilization has moved from, “I think, therefore I am”, to Leftists’ insane new maxim of, “I feel something is true, therefore it is…”

No civilization can survive such a delusional and fallacious philosophy…

JohnHSC
Reply to  SAMURAI
March 16, 2021 5:42 am

Don’t forget “I talked about something, therefore I did it”. e.g. Nobel Peace prize for Obama.

leowaj
Reply to  SAMURAI
March 16, 2021 7:20 am

The visionary ideology– I feel something, therefore it is– is not entirely new. Between World War 1 and World War 2, France believed it could “imagine” itself out of war by indoctrinating its children. And Britain, much the same when Neville Chamberlain came back from Germany, Munich Agreement papers in hand, and arrogantly remarked, “I believe it is peace for our time.” War broke out less than a year later. All machinations of the mind that brought societies to the brink of annihilation (and crossed said brink in the case of France).

alloytoo
March 16, 2021 2:04 am

Battery storage (or if you are lucky Pumped hydro) is always touted as a solution for intermittency of renewables.

Assuming you could build batteries to meaningful scale, I’m not convinced that the intermittency of renewables would actually allow enough surplus to actually charge the batteries (or pumped hydro) reliably.

(Especially since we’ll be using all our off peak capacity to charge EVs)

Are perpetual motion machines part of the plans.

Joseph Zorzin
Reply to  alloytoo
March 16, 2021 4:16 am

In western Massachusetts is a wonderful pumped storage project- that was pumped by a nearby nuclear reactor- which was shut down by the greenies. Now, the alarmists are saying that there is no more need for the pumped storage site- so let’s close that too- though they’re pushing wind and solar- Mass. has a similar plan as CA- net free by 2050.

Phillip Bratby
March 16, 2021 2:07 am

There is nothing clean about wind, solar and batteries.

Ed Zuiderwijk
March 16, 2021 2:17 am

The pie-chart is missing. The one for pie in the sky.

Bruce Cobb
March 16, 2021 2:33 am

What’s that? Cloud Cuckooland released a report? They say they’re charting a course to 100% economic ruin?
Wonders will never cease!

Pamela Matlack-Klein
March 16, 2021 3:47 am

It really is baffling how all these clowns can ignore the fossil fuels that are required to make windmills and solar panels. It is as if the very act of producing the windmill or solar panel instantly conveys purity of purpose and they become magically cleansed of all evil. It must be nice to be so certain they are on the correct path to salvation, sort of the lies the Inquisitors must have told one another as they burned yet another heretic….

MarkW
Reply to  Pamela Matlack-Klein
March 16, 2021 7:57 am

These are the same people who think that food comes from grocery stores.
Thinking about where the windmills and solar panels come from is beyond them.

Steve E.
March 16, 2021 4:59 am

There is no doubt that California is the poster child for mis-management, whether you are referring to forestry, electricity or whatever. Some things, such as paying Arizona to take excess solar are slightly humorous. Others are scarier, such as requiring an actual vote/decision not to close permanently fossil fuel power plants amidst a period of rolling blackouts for both load and fire prevention reasons. And then the clueless governor announces his plan to deal with the power problems – require eveyone to buy a electric car by 2035.

So why would anyone believe that this report bears any relationship to reality?

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Steve E.
March 16, 2021 6:55 am

Fancy full-color graphics?

Rich Lambert
March 16, 2021 5:24 am

Homelessness fits right into the 100% clean energy plan. People living in tents on the sidewalk and unable to afford transportation use very little energy. Same for goes for the effect of lockdowns and blackouts on energy use.

very old white guy
March 16, 2021 5:27 am

just what would be 100% clean energy? I swear, everybody is just plain nuts.

Reacher51
March 16, 2021 6:10 am

As far as I understand the tenets of the new Green religion, if the entire planet does not curtail its CO2 emissions almost entirely within the next 10 years, then catastrophic warming will be “baked in” to the system, no matter what. That being the case, then by what new magic will California avoid the consequences of a global climate system that has irreparably transformed into warming mode? Have the priests decided that Californian virtue can erect a sort of shield around the state, protecting it from the otherwise global wrath of Gaia? Or is this just one of the many sacred mysteries that only the priestly caste can understand?

Peter W
Reply to  Reacher51
March 16, 2021 6:39 am

So why was it so cold this past February?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Peter W
March 16, 2021 10:22 am

Global warming causes everything.

leowaj
Reply to  Reacher51
March 16, 2021 7:26 am

One would need to demystify the term “baked in”. Because if it means that it is systemic in nature, then man was screwed from day one of his existence. Or, put differently and with a higher dose of derisive dismissiveness: they’ve been saying “in 10 years it will be too late” for the last 50 years.

Reacher51
Reply to  leowaj
March 16, 2021 8:37 am

I would look at it somewhat differently. If the uncontrollable warming that the Climate Faithful imagine will become inevitable in ten years is supposedly a scientific certainty, then on what basis are they seeking to change anything by the year 2045? What exactly is the point?

Either we are doomed, or we aren’t. The Faithful seem to effortlessly hold both of these propositions in their head at the same time, but they are never called on it. If the State of California has a plan to decarbonize by 2045, then are they claiming that the IPCC’s super scientific claim of irreversible doom is wrong? What specific aspect of that consensus science do they disagree with? I fail to understand why no one calls them or others on that question. Surely, someone in the press pool is capable of noticing that they have professed propositions that are clearly contradictory.

Dennis
March 16, 2021 6:10 am

Please invest in my new business to capture natural electricity from lightning via copper rods into batteries (which are getting cheaper).

I anticipate supplying renewable energy after every storm.

By 2099.

Refunds in full if the project fails to achieve its target.

Gunga Din
March 16, 2021 6:50 am

Their path is doomed to fail.
Why?
They left out lightening rods and flux capacitors. (Not to mention Mr. Fusion!)

ResourceGuy
March 16, 2021 7:54 am
LdB
March 16, 2021 8:07 am

Did April fools day come early?

Dan M
March 16, 2021 8:45 am

I thought California’s plan was to decommission all its fossil fuel plants and buy electricity from other states that may or may not use fossil fuels at whatever exorbitant rates are dictated. Problem solved.

WBrowning
March 16, 2021 8:52 am

100% Clean…Then they are going Nuclear?

Tim Gorman
March 16, 2021 9:13 am

8X the number of batteries? WHAT BATTERIES?

observa
March 16, 2021 9:15 am

They tell me microwaves are all the go-
Microwave-powered boiler could replace gas boilers by 2022 (msn.com)
Add the boilers and cookers to the burial mounds of old turbine blades solar panels and lithium batteries. We’re going Green folks.

Steve Z
March 16, 2021 9:31 am

They say that 63% of California’s energy came from non-fossil fuel sources: renewables, hydroelectric, and nuclear. They don’t say what share came from each of those three sources. Most likely, the lion’s share of that 63% came from nuclear, which would be the best choice for reducing CO2 emissions.

But since they list “renewables” first, people are misled into thinking that renewables can provide more power. California gets more sunshine than most states, but it also has a huge power-hungry population along the coast, whose needs could never be satisfied by solar power.

Hydroelectric power is clean and doesn’t emit anything, but it requires water flowing downhill, so it doesn’t provide much power during drought years, and greenies out there are always asking to tear down dams in order to save some obscure fish. If there is very little rain in the summer, dams are needed to save snowmelt for release when the water and power is most needed. Besides, they will provide pretty lakes for people to go boating and fishing when it gets too hot in LA.

If California really wants to go carbon neutral, they will have to “go nuclear”. They just need to build their nuclear plants far away from the San Andreas fault.

Tom Abbott
March 16, 2021 9:37 am

From the article: “#CAClimateAction is essential as the state continues to face the damaging effects of #ClimateChange like never before.”

Of course, there is no evidence Human-caused climate change is real, much less that it is doing damage to California.

Human-caused climate change requires increased temperatures, but if you look at a California regional surface temperature chart, you will find that the temperartures are cooling, not warming in California.

So how do you get Human-caused Global Warming/Climate Change when it’s not warming? Answer: You don’t, these fools don’t know what they are talking about.

Robert of Texas
March 16, 2021 10:18 am

Well at least other States can watch this poorly planned experiment and see the damages it causes. I wonder just how they expect to recharge the batteries when they don’t even have enough electricity to go around…remember they are not building out any new reliable power, so my guess is they will be importing a LOT of “unclean” energy from other states – assuming there is any available.

I also wonder if they are aware that the batteries will have to be changed out every ten years or so, and the wind turbines every 20 or so – going down this road means endless replacements and rebuilding causing more “pollution”.

Then there will be an unusual summer where drought has lowered water behind the dams and the wind just isn’t blowing as much (a sustained high pressure system). I guess they will just live without energy for months to years until “normal conditions” return.

If I were a company dependent on reliable energy I would be putting together my plans to move as soon as possible.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Robert of Texas
March 17, 2021 4:55 am

“I also wonder if they are aware that the batteries will have to be changed out every ten years or so, and the wind turbines every 20 or so”

I saw an article in a left-leaning magazine a couple of days ago and they were voicing worries about the problem of properly disposing of used windmill blades.

This is early in the process, and even some on the left are voicing concerns.

The situation will only get worse from here if we continue down the windmill road. The left needs to come up with a better alternative (Hint: nuclear energy).

Kit P
March 16, 2021 10:30 am

California is no longer the sunshine state and become the ‘no’ state. No this, no that, no something else.

For example, millions of ‘no parking 2am to 4am’ signs.

I have lived in California on and off since 1960. Even worked at a nuke plant. Lots of friends and family there but a place I avoid in retirement because of politics and too many cars driving too fast.

So let me explain the ‘100 % clean RESIDENTIAL electricity scam’.

First there is a mild climate and heating and hot water is often done with natural gas.

In other words, a small part of the pie. No big accomplishment.

When I moved back to California from Michigan I built my low energy dream house. Title 24 mandated Michigan houses not houses suited for the climate. When my building permit was rejected because of too many windows, I directed my architect to relabel south facing windows as ‘passive solar collectors’ and provided 37 pages of calculation per ASRAE.

Thermal mass (12″ logs), low e glass, and overhangs kept the house cool in the summer even when it was 110 F.

Here is the crazy part of California. When the nuke plant I worked at closed, had to sell my dream house and move out of state. Rediscovered affordable housing, clean air, good schools, low taxes, and no crime.

We got a motorhome when we retired. Camped on the Gulf of Mexico beach for free in Texas. Took the free ferry to Galveston. Texas is a great state to travel in. Friendly!

California used to be a great state too. All the great things to do and see, I have already done because of being stationed there in the navy and working there. And there are still parts of the state isolated from the craziness.

Always enjoyed the Pacific Coast Highway before the ‘no parking 2am to 4am’ signs. But they are everywhere. I was at a marina where I kept my boat for years. I knew it was a safe place. At 1am, two squad cars and four police officers informed me that I had to leave.

Did find a place where the signs were not being enforced judging from the homeless sleeping on the sidewalk.

One of the consequences of idiotic environmental regulations is the cost puts those on the margins of the street. I have noticed a lot of people in California sleeping in their cars.

Hoser
March 16, 2021 10:43 am

It’s all about centralized control. Like most fascist governments. IL NUCE(*) Newsom is about to go away, but that doesn’t stop a crazy bunch in the Sacto bunker from screwing us all over. They pretend to be for the poor, but they hurt the poor the most with these nutty schemes. It just makes more people dependent on government transfers. Problem is, there are fewer working people to rob. I can’t believe you can sustain a big state like CA on the revenue of a few Leftist big tech corporations no matter whether they believe in the hokum or not. It’s just a play. Eventually, they will abandon their parasitized host and move on to maybe Texas to suck the life out of that state.

* IL NUCE means “the punk”, vs IL DUCE meaning “the leader”.

Peter Hollander
March 16, 2021 10:58 am

Californians need to buy back up generators and keep a good supply of gasoline / propane to run them because moving to zero carbon means outages and a third world intermittent electricity supply. Then LA and the Bay area will become like Lagos Nigeria where the hum of generators in an oil rich country without proper electricity supplies will annoy all those woke folk with solar panels on cloudy days when the wind doesn’t blow and the dams are nearly empty so the hydro is at quarter speed.

c1ue
March 16, 2021 12:56 pm

I’m not seeing much talk about how full of crap the CARB et all are.
8x the present storage means how many minutes of full system load would be stored? 15? 30?
We would need literally days of storage in order to have uninterrupted power, if zero fossil fuel and only existing nuclear base load remains.

Jan de Jong
March 16, 2021 2:04 pm

Charting a path to the hereafter. Wouldn’t that be nice.

F.E Dup
March 16, 2021 5:35 pm

these. bastards. AGW is a scam

PETER D ANDERSON
March 17, 2021 2:44 am

I can’t wait to pay $800 a month for electricity.

Alba
March 17, 2021 4:58 am

“The 178-page report finds that the goals of SB 100 can be achieved in different ways, but reaching them will require significant investments in new and existing technologies and an increased, sustained build-out of clean energy projects to bring new resources on-line.”

Please, Sir, what’s a build-out?

Supplementary question: What language do the speak in California?

Alba
March 17, 2021 5:02 am

“Advancements in emerging technologies, increased demand flexibility and cost declines in existing technologies may decrease the total electricity resource requirements and implementation costs.”

But the ability of Californians to invent new ways of talking is obviously on an upcline.

Brooks Hurd
March 17, 2021 2:54 pm

California is shutting down their last nuclear power plant, Diablo Canyon, in 2025. This plant has been providing 9% of California’s electricity 24/7. At the same time that California is shutting down dispatchable power plant, they are requiring new homes in some cities to be 100% electrical. They are also pushing EVs. Therefore, California is adding more electrical usage reducing the amount of dispatchable power production. in 2019, California only produced 71% of the electrical power used in the state. This means that after Diablo Canyon is shuttered, California will most likely need to import roughly 40% of the electricity that California uses. Last summer, California had rolling blackouts.

The “solution” that the brilliant folks in Sacramento came up with is shown in the following website:
Time of Use | Energy Upgrade California® | Energy Upgrade California®

All we have to do is not use electricity between 4 PM and 9 PM. No heating or cooling your home when you get home from work. No hot meals. No charging your Teslas. No lights, TV, computers plugged in.

The production charts on the website I linked, show California producing solar (PV) power between 6:00 and 16:00. Clearly the people who created that graph do not have solar panels on their rooves like I do. At 6:00 on June 23, you might have your solar panels producing a tiny amount of power. Yesterday on my system, the power curve was parabolic at the start of the day and tailed off after 15:30. At 8:30 yesterday, the usage dropped below the production and it stayed that way until about 16:15. Peak electricity from the grid was 19:30 to 22:30. My house idles at 300 to 400 watts. We have natural gas for cooking, heat, hot water and clothes drying. If these are all converted to electricity the way that California wants, my PV system will be negative (drawing from the grid) every day of the year.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Brooks Hurd
March 17, 2021 4:50 pm

Take a break from chores! Wait to start your dishwasher and laundry until after 9PM or the next morning so that you’re cleaning with cleaner energy.”

Yep, start all those appliances that can break down and flood your house while you are sleeping! That way you can wake up to a fun-filled morning!

March 28, 2021 9:18 pm

These people are clinically insane. End. Of. Story.

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