Reposted from the NoTricksZone
By P Gosselin on 12. March 2021
Frustrated by lockdowns and restrictions, Germany’s youth may be showing signs of rebellion as a comprehensive European Investment Bank generational survey shows “climate protection aspect does not seem to have the high priority among young people.”
Youth-led movement a myth…
Fading climate crisis: Germany’s younger generation may be rejecting calls to austerity, turning their backs on climate activists, major survey finds. Image cropped here.
Journalists Daniel Wetzel and Karsten Seibel at German online flagship daily Die Welt here report on today’s German youth and how they in fact do not view the climate issue at all like Fridays for Future activists Greta Thunberg (Sweden) and Luisa Neubauer.
The media and activists like giving the impression that the younger generation of Germans today are acutely concerned about climate and that the older generation is indifferent about it.
In fact the older generation is considered by some as being so irresponsible that “there are now calls in the commentary columns of daily newspapers such as the ‘TAZ’ to take away the right to vote from ‘old people’ and let children vote instead,” Wetzel and Seibel write.
Others have even suggested killing the old generation with Corona if they don’t clean up their climate act.
German youth not willing to forego amenities
But the results of the major climate survey of the European Investment Bank (EIB) don’t suggest this sort of generational difference. For example when it comes to products with the highest greenhouse gas emissions, such as short-haul domestic flights, 47 percent of respondents over 65 could imagine an emissions ban from such products, but only 27 percent of 15- to 29-year-olds could.
Obviously today’s German youth are not being swayed by Greta Thunberg’s doomsday prophecies.
Climate protection low priority
Wetzel and Seibel observe that “the climate protection aspect does not seem to have the high priority among young people that the TV pictures of demonstrating ‘Fridays for Future’ children suggest”.
Only 26% say we should use less fossil fuels!
Shockingly, “Only 26 percent of young people believe that we should use less fossil energy, primarily for climate protection reasons,” the two Die Welt journalists reveal. “Young people up to the age of 29 are not so keen on being banned from speeding on the motorway either: Only 12 percent would agree to a speed limit – in the over-65 age group, the figure is 26 percent.”
Another striking result: “Only 20 percent of Germans under age 30 are in favor of subsidizing electric cars” and a puny “22 percent in this age group would give priority to technology in climate protection.”
This compares to about 35% in China and the USA.
Only 15% prepared to “radically change behavior”
Moreover only 15 percent of Germany’s youth were prepared to radically change their personal behavior to fit in with the Paris climate goals,” write Wetzel and Seibert. 42%, however, do agree that behavioral change is necessary.
The European Investment Bank survey sampled 30,000 people in 30 countries in the fall of 2020.
Well, young Germans are already living in a society which is very green and sustainable and renewable… they have excellent public transport, cycling is popular, they have efficient electrical devices and over half their energy is from renewables, they recycle a huge amount… what they think of as normal is vastly greener than the USA.
Greener 😉
Greta certainly appears very Negative on the subject
Clearly you have never been there 🙂
Yes, Munich, Berlin, Hamburg ask a German what they think about commute driving in any of those cities, guarantee you won’t get the same rainbows and unicorns answer as the Grifter gave.
German roads have pretty much permanent roadworks everywhere, like the UK.
Montreal was the worst city for roadworks everywhere that I ever suffered.
It’s like most of griff’s “facts”, he doesn’t need personal experience. If it’s written in the Guardian, it’s true. And that’s all he needs to know.
So long as any place has > 50% unreliable energy sources, Griff will smell Wine and see Roses
If not, Griff will simply whine and throw tantrums
CO2 is necessary for a greener planet. Germany contributes a minor amount of CO2 if CO2 was a problem. Germany is wasting a huge amount of money. Germany’s biggest problem is Merkel.
Germany’s biggest problem is the population that votes for Merkel.
Just as the biggest problem for the US is not China. It’s domestic progressives.
Didn’t most of their problems come from East Germany?
Yes, she did. She has done well in keeping photos of her Stasi Youth days under wraps.
Why only half? Why not a completely renewable electric system? There are only 9 years left.
Griff
So Germany are already in the green promised land? Well in the real world, German CO2 emissions are rising because of their rejection of nuclear (which exposes as a total sham the entire CO2 narrative). American CO2 emissions meanwhile are falling because of fracked gas.
The green opposition to nuclear and to fracked gas, both of which reduce CO2, tell you everything you need to know about the movement and its followers. The CO2 narrative is a sham and they know it. I wouldn’t buy a used car from any of them, even an electric one.
And you can’t fix stupid.
You can’t fix stupid while stupid is in office.
LOL. Not that any of that matters as far as climate or “the planet” goes, but try telling that to the ipcc, or any greenie groups like greenpuke.
Which makes you happier, griffter; the chopping down of their forests or the slaughter of birds and bats for unreliable and expensive electricity?
Maybe you can start working on a system that incinerates humans to produce power? I hear the Germans already worked out part of that solution! Goebbels and Riefenstahl would find you quite useful!
Those were nasties, not Germans.
German people are part of humanity.
Nasties are an inhuman species.
Can you clarify if half their energy “source” is from renewables or half their energy “usage” is from renewables?
As always, griff is completely wrong on all count, anyway
Griffy-poo:
I suggest that your major malfunction at this blog is that you’ve been told what to think instead of learning how to think and to think for yourself. You have allowed others to do your thinking for you, and you have been handed climate alarmist and renewable energy narratives that you have embraced without question.
When you let others do your thinking for you, it then becomes a matter of selectively cherry-picking what evidence is to be accepted and what is rejected as confirmation for and in support of the narrative you have been handed to believe. Lying and making things up also serves to support the narrative well when you need people to believe.
The alarmists cherry-pick their evidence in support of the alarmist narrative as you do, and you all ignore evidence that refutes it. Such behavior represents the abandonment of the ability to critically analyze and scrutinize any belief system that is proposed to the public. Proper critical analysis requires looking at ALL OF THE EVIDENCE, not cherry-picking your evidence. If the alarmists understand that there are serious problems with their narrative, then it is nothing but a propaganda and indoctrination campaign. Think Orwell’s Nineteen-Eighty-Four.
Griffy-poo, when you understand what I’m telling you here, you might find that you have far fewer problems with the majority of people at this blog. Unfortunately, I am not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
Griff, uncork your ar$e and you will hear and see better, plus the air will smell so much fresher.
I see that griff is still trying to push the lie that getting 40% of your energy from renewables for 5 minutes, one time a year is the same thing as getting more than half of all your energy from renewables.
As to the rest, he actually believes that people adapting to ridiculous tax levels is the same thing as people approving those ridiculous tax levels.
Reality, is that Renewables are only 17.,5%, and most of that is biomass.
Wind only 4%
I love how Germany shut down its nuclear energy and built dirty coal plants for the needed replacement power!
“…is vastly greener than the USA.”
Which means it’s vastly more stupid.
And the highest price of electricity in the world. !!
If it’s so much better, Griffypooh, how come the Black Forest is being cut down and is FAR less than half of its 20th century acreage?
You wanna go over that again, fella?
Utter and complete BS !!!
Wind makes up on 4.1% of their energy use. Renewables, mostly biomass only 17.5%
The country RUNS ON NATURAL GAS and OIL !
Griff (you ignorant slut),
The German culture has a history of creating problems for themselves based on what they think is normal.
You can’t fool all the people all the time; the climate scam will need to morph or go away. Hopefully Germany will opt for the ‘go away’ scenario, the kids will continue to wake up, and thy will stop digging themselves into a deeper & deeper hole.
DonM,
Why do you insult sluts ???
I think Mr. griff was hired to provide the entertainment in the comments.
And proved very successful … if you go by the votes -52 at the moment !!!!
They throw a lot of stuff into recycle bins. Does it really get recycled?
Some people are still to young to be thoroughly indoctrinated against the truth, and a little bit of it leaks through. Apparently the European youth see a world of opportunity and plenty in their futures. How dare they!
When they were 10 years old, they were told they would be roasting in 10 years. Now that they are 20 years old, they have noticed that they are not roasting.
The political mindset manipulators need to take note of this as the younger generations wise up to their current dissemination of cleverly produced disinformation.
How can you win ,,,,with the likes of “Chit Not News”
A lot of people are starting to speak up about the travesty of our educational systems being turned into leftwing indoctrination centers.
The takeover of the United States by a one-party, authoritarian rule is motivating people to push back. People can see the dangers ahead more clearly now.
Donner und blitzen!
Don’t leave out Dancer, Prancer, Comet, Cupid, Dasher, Vixen, or even Rudolph. Are flying reindeer farts now taking over from unicorns as the most reliable form of “green” energy?
Good news, indeed! Young people I speak to in Portugal are not worried about SLR, rising temperatures, or any of the other horrors described by activists. They are also sick of the covid restrictions and more than ready to get back to normal.
Could it be, maybe, and I’m just spitballing here, but, perhaps they don’t appreciate being used as pawns and dupes to push a political ideology with no connection with reality by virtue-signaling, hypocritical so-called “adults”?
maybe as they age and have to pay their own way, they are thinking more about cost-benefit.
betcha they ramp up agw indoctrination in kindergartens pronto
Better yet, pre-natal indoctrination. The younger, the better!
” ….. sampled 30,000 people in 30 countries ……”
It would be interesting to see all the results.
Here in France you wouldn’t see the same result I’m sure.
Half the population wants to stop nuclear power because it produces too much CO², go figure.
I heard that figure too. Do you have a reliable link to the study?
I guess if 1 person thinks that, then how sad is that?
https://www.edf.fr/en/climate-international-observatory-results
If you read the whole questionnaire, (it’s in English) prepare to be shocked…
Thanks Climate Believer. This is the saddest thing I have seen all week. We are effn doomed as a species.
No, the Chicoms will be happy to come in and pick up all the pieces of what’s left of Western society.
Thanks CB, shocking and scary.
Thanks for the link. What a bunch of ignorant sods.
It is absolutely amazing that the twits that answered this survey a) believed that the thing to fear from “climate change” was increased violent weather, and, b) that most of them said they HAD EXPERIENCED this non-existent impact of climate change! WTF? How did they do that? Are they mass hypnotized by the idiots in the media? Talk about being brainwashed. Who are you going to believe – the media or your lyin’ eyes?
This is the price we pay for letting the left run the education system, and for putting up with what passes for journalism now.
Each of us must become active in fighting against the left. Please consider how you can join the fight. Tell sponsors you disagree with their support of progressive causes, and won’t buy their products. Do something, please.
“Are they mass hypnotized by the idiots in the media?”
I think quite a few of them are brainwashed by the media. On any number of subjects.
A majority of voters have become convinced that the purpose of government is to give them lots of free stuff.
Most people, especially most young people have little experience with weather. If the last time a major storm hit was 20 years ago, they either weren’t alive to experience it, or have forgotten it.
Therefore when the media tells them the storm they just experience was the worst storm EVAH, they believe it.
It’s easy to have polls on “ideas and suggestions” but when stuff actually starts to hurt it gets very pointed. What it shows is they are starting to resent the costs that are being passed on to them and rebelling.
True enough, in fact the “Greenies” here proposed that the max speed limit on French motorways be reduced from 130 kph to 110 kph to reduce emissions. This was immediately opposed by 80% of the population LOL!
I do take polling with a large lump of salt.
Start here
https://www.eib.org/en/surveys/climate-survey/3rd-climate-survey/index.htm#
There are links to download data tables.
Direct links
https://www.eib.org/attachments/survey/third-climate-survey-all-data.xlsx
https://www.eib.org/attachments/survey/eib-third-climate-survey-results-all-countries.xlsx
https://www.eib.org/attachments/survey/eib-third-climate-survey-results-all-countries-part-3.xlsx
Three separate spreadsheets.
Thanks
The mainstream media has brought this upon themselves. You can only cry wolf so much before people begin to disbelieve your information. Promoting activism and not work only affects those who either don’t care or don’t have to support themselves because parents and government does it. The harsh old world will always educate those who won’t learn from history and from their elders.
Media folks, and I include reporters, Hollywood types, and politicians, always act like they know everything about everything, when in reality they probably have no science education in their background at all. I hope sooner or later people wise up and ask themselves “How are they so knowledgeable about everything?”
“The mainstream media has brought this upon themselves. You can only cry wolf so much before people begin to disbelieve your information.”
Add to that: You can’t make one failed climate change prediction after another, decade after decade, and not have those failures affect how people look at such claims.
It could be just the natural rebellion of kids against their parents.
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Then there’s grandma and grandpa who don’t want green, and in many or most cases, see “Climate Change” as just weather and nothing has happened that they haven’t seen before, or worse, and the sea is still where it was when they were kids.
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And the kids have all the cool toys which their parent’s generation wants to take away because “Climate Change”. They see that as nuts, particularly when gramps has told stories about weather that was worse back in their day.
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So, like we did way back when with rock ‘n roll music, the kids are going to rebel. It’s always been that way and it’s worse this time because the parents are talking about taking away the kids’ tech toys. “No way!” sez they.
I support the rebellion.
When was this survey done? It is hard to be concerned with CAGW when the current propaganda is if you have fun with other people you will kill grandma. You now have children with severe emotional stress because they cannot be with their friends, and some thoroughly indoctrinated to believe that even wanting to be with friends is going to kill someone. I am sure the results will be much different once people decide they have had enough of the COVID-19 lies.
Even beach goers are getting wise to climate alarmism … https://newtube.app/user/RAOB/R8l9API
That was worth the click, John. Nice find, and only 2 minutes long.
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Not a time-waster clip at all, y’all.
Very nice, John!
Maybe kids are skeptical because they see videos like this and have learned that much of the internet is lies and stupidity!
Thank you john, brill, will
circulateflood the internetI don’t think that the news media realizes how shallow support for reducing carbon dioxide emissions is. People give it lip service, parrot the right words, and maybe even have a superficial uninformed opinion. But they aren’t willing to make any deep personal sacrifices.
I live in one of the most radically leftist congressional districts in the United States. One of the cities in my district, Evanston, Illinois is even going to begin paying reparations to its black residents. That is despite the reality that in its entire history there probably was never even a single slave in Evanston. Yet despite all the virtue signaling I can’t help but noticing that about half the cars on the streets and in the local parking lots are gas guzzling SUV’s. It’s one thing to virtue signal by saying someone else should reduce emissions and it quite a different thing for these hypocrites to trade in their SUV’s and drive small shoebox cars.
“That is despite the reality that in its entire history there probably was never even a single slave in Evanston.”
Well, there was this one guy named Deed Scott… 😉
Dred Scott
$@#__$#+_ @ Autocorrect!!
🙂
The comment software says my smiley face is “too short” and would not post it by itself, so I had to improvise.
People are very reluctant to speak out against what they believe to be the popular culture.
They are being told over and over again how everybody is willing to do what it takes to save the planet. As a result they come to believe that they will be ostracized by society if they let their true feelings be known. So the adopt a green shell that they use whenever they are outside, or talking with strangers. But their true feelings remain.
And don’t we see this time and again with “upset” elections outcomes where the pre-poll predictions way removed from what actually transpired.
“People are very reluctant to speak out against what they believe to be the popular culture.”
This subject was being discussed this morning on Fox News, and it was an educator who was saying that the leftwing ideology/woke culture was alive and well in U.S. schools (of all graes) but he said there were many students would did not buy into the ideology but would not challenge it publicly, and some would even parrot the ideology while not believing a word of it, in order not to become the focus of woke rage.
This was in regard to high school students, and the professor was asked if the same thing was going on in the colleges and he said yes it was.
There may be a lot of students out there who are not True Believers in the causes of the Left, and they may just be remaining silent for practical reasons.
There is hope for the world then. Good!
Oh dear, what will St. Greta say?
Wait wait, don’t tell me!
“HOW DARE YOU”!
HOW DARE YOU paint St Greta in such a Negative Light
ALL environmental efforts by the loonies will have suffered with COVID. Let’s continue the pain for them.
I watched a financial analyst on BNN… Stanislawski?…. say the greatest problem facing humans was Climate Change. I just about fell off my chair. So much for his credibility on anything. Even I know enough not to tread where I am not qualified.
BNN is Bloomberg/BNN now.. so they push Bloombergs political views every day. Its sad what people he employs have to do to keep their jobs,
Wetzel and Seibel observe that “the climate protection aspect does not seem to have the high priority among young people that the TV pictures of demonstrating ‘Fridays for Future’ children suggest”.
It doesn’t take very much effort to round up a bunch of angry teens to protest ANYTHING especially if TV cameras are involved. And it doesn’t take many people to fill the screen to make a small crowd seem hugh. The reporters *almost* get the fact that their TV brethren have been manipulating them (and us) about youthful climate alarmism but the pfennig never drops.
“make a small crowd seem hugh”
https://youtu.be/MYNNaMDNlYI
I remember seeing a factoid a few years ago noting that few young people are buying government lottery tickets. It seems they grew up watching parents and older relatives waste good money on government lotteries that paid few if any winnings.
The 15- to 29-year-olds have been feed Climate Armageddon predictions for their entire lives. Predictions that have not come true. Much like government lotteries, it’s a dead-end. Is it any wonder young people’s priorities lie elsewhere?
Fading climate crisis: Germany’s younger generation may be rejecting calls to austerity, turning their backs on climate activists, major survey finds.Image cropped here.
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Might I suggest that the Fridays for Future movement do a better job of getting their cues from Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty Four and from the Nazi Hitler Youth Movement. It’s not as though there isn’t any historical or literary precedent here, is there?
Thanks, CD!
I think St. Greta would fit right in with that crowd!
Wasn’t Hitler a vegetarian, anti-religion type, too!?
And rabidly antismoking.
Why would this be surprising? Education in Germany (as in most of the developed world) is FAR superior to what the gummint schools in the USA produce.
Clearly the Germans need some help from the U.S. climate consultants to distort and confuse the issue with follow-up surveys.
and all the while NASA’s satellites document the ever expanding swathes of greenbelts
I dunno. German youth staring at me like that is a bit concerning….
Dang! It’s almost like those German youths are all reading WUWT and are not buying the climate change scaremongering.
Maybe the worm is turning.