Solar Panel Production. Coking Coal (Metallurgical Coal) is combined with Sand to produce Silicon. The end product is Silicon, Carbon Monoxide and CO2. Note for simplicity I left out a few steps.

United Nations Demands an End to Silicon Solar Panels and Wind Turbines

Guest essay by Eric Worrall

h/t Breitbart; Guterres actually demanded an end to coal, but since metallurgical coal is an essential ingredient in the processes for refining silicon and iron ore, Guterres has effectively demanded the end of solar panel and wind turbine construction.

Secretary-General urges countries to end ‘deadly addiction’ to coal 

Ending a ‘deadly addiction’ 

Mr. Guterres underlined action in three areas to end what he called “the deadly addiction to coal.” 

He called for countries to cancel all coal projects in the pipeline, particularly the 37 members of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) who are urged to do so by 2030. 

The UN chief also appealed for ending international financing for coal and providing greater support to developing countries transitioning to renewable energy. 

 “I also ask all multilateral and public banks — as well as investors in commercial banks or pension funds — to shift their investments now in the new economy of renewable energy”, he added. 

Read more: https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/03/1086132

There are ongoing attempts to find processes for refining iron ore which do not involve coal, such as substituting hydrogen in place of carbon, but these processes are still experimental. Refining iron ore using hydrogen is particularly problematic; any hydrogen contamination of the final product creates a brittle, mechanically unstable steel.

And of course, steel itself is an alloy of iron and carbon.

I guess it is possible UN Secretary General Guterres has no idea that coal has other uses than being burned for energy.

Guterres also called for public and private funding to be “aligned”, whatever that means.

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Pauleta
March 3, 2021 2:04 pm

You can’t fix stupid. And the UN is basically a bunch of corrupt stupid people.

Scissor
Reply to  Pauleta
March 3, 2021 3:06 pm

They’re probably more corrupt than stupid, and some might argue that it’s easier to fix corruption.

Spetzer86
Reply to  Scissor
March 4, 2021 5:48 am

A little rope will often take care of a lot of corruption.

S.K.
Reply to  Pauleta
March 3, 2021 3:56 pm

Would de-funding stupid be considered a fix?

Dennis
Reply to  S.K.
March 3, 2021 6:56 pm

President Trump addressed the UN in New York twice, the transcript reveals that he strongly recommended that they rethink their tactics including stopping interference in the affairs of sovereign member nations.

He hinted that the US might defund the UN and remove them from their New York premises unless they got back to the original charter as soon as possible, and joked that UN HQ could be converted into a casino to return revenue to the US instead of the US pouring taxpayer’s monies in to support the UN.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  S.K.
March 4, 2021 3:07 am

be a good start!!

Crispin Pemberton-Pigott
Reply to  S.K.
March 4, 2021 3:44 am

De-funding stupid solutions would indeed be a fix for problems they create.

If fanatics want to privately fund stupid activities they can go ahead as long as they do not damage the environment – whether social, natural or psychological. Demanding that I fund their Quixotic adventures is another matter.

MarkH
Reply to  Pauleta
March 3, 2021 5:15 pm

The more this goes on, the more I think that Hanlon’s Razor has it backwards.

Any rational assessment of the actions of these people should easily conclude that they are acting out of malice, not stupidity. They know full well the consequences of their plans, that is why they are instituting them. They see themselves as being the supreme rulers over a shattered and devastated human population (greatly reduced).

There will not be renewable energy for the masses, it won’t work and can never work … for the masses. These people know this, but their plan is to remove the masses, that is not stupidity, that is malice.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  MarkH
March 3, 2021 5:38 pm

This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution, she said.”

Christiana Figueres, 2015. Malicious intent indeed.

Dennis
Reply to  Patrick MJD
March 3, 2021 6:57 pm

October 2015 just before the Paris Conference commenced late November into December 2015.

Art
Reply to  MarkH
March 4, 2021 9:59 am

Malice indeed, but not to remove the masses, to subjugate them. They know that the only countries dumb enough to actually make any effort to do this are the successful capitalist democracies, By convincing them to self-destruct, the power vacuum is then available for dictatorial socialist control, which is the real goal.

March 3, 2021 2:09 pm

Actually knowing how to do something seems to be disqualifying for socialist bureaucrats.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Halla
March 3, 2021 4:54 pm

Actually knowing how to do something seems to be disqualifying for socialists, period.

AGW is Not Science
Reply to  MarkW
March 4, 2021 6:47 am

With the notable exception of picking the pockets of those who do know how to do something.

TonyG
Reply to  MarkW
March 4, 2021 8:41 am

AND for bureaucrats, period.

Mr.
March 3, 2021 2:10 pm

I guess it is possible UN Secretary General Guterres has no idea that coal has other uses than being burned for energy.

I guess it is possible UN Secretary General Guterres has no idea that coal has other uses than being burned for energy.

Fixed it for ya Eric. No thanks needed. 🙂

Paul Penrose
Reply to  Mr.
March 4, 2021 10:10 am

I disagree. I think he has plenty of ideas how to enrich himself at the expense of others.

rocdoctom
March 3, 2021 2:11 pm

Let him lead by example and be the first in line to go coal free. Fat chance. Dumber than a post comes to mind.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  rocdoctom
March 3, 2021 3:24 pm

Dumber than a lump of coal!

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
March 3, 2021 5:10 pm

Save the last piece of coal for his Christmas stocking.

Gilbert K Arnold
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
March 3, 2021 5:53 pm

Hey there Clyde…. let’s not go insulting the intelligence of coal

Redge
Reply to  Gilbert K Arnold
March 3, 2021 11:18 pm

Or the usefulness

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Gilbert K Arnold
March 5, 2021 12:18 pm

Actually coal is fairly smart! If a truck carrying coal were to lose part of its load going around a curve, such as the on-ramp to a freeway, much of the coal would scurry to the outside of the turn to get out of the way of vehicles following. It doesn’t take long before the rest of the coal uses the free energy from the wheels of subsequent vehicles to make its way to the edge of the road to stay out of the way. Never underestimate the IQ of a lump of coal! Or even a rock, for that matter.

Greytide
Reply to  rocdoctom
March 4, 2021 3:39 am

Maybe he could remove all carbon from his body? He probably doesn’t realise that we are a carbon based life form!

C. Earl Jantzi
Reply to  rocdoctom
March 5, 2021 10:59 am

Hey, quit insulting posts. I know a lot that are more useful than this idiot.

John Tillman
March 3, 2021 2:13 pm

World mis-government means rule by ideologically-driven, scientific and technological ingoramuses. What could possibly go wrong with that?

commieBob
Reply to  John Tillman
March 3, 2021 2:18 pm

Jordan Peterson points out the following:

Q: Who will lead the Marxist paradise.
A: Exactly the people you wouldn’t want to be leading it.

Or something like that.

John Tillman
Reply to  commieBob
March 3, 2021 3:04 pm

That neatly sums it up,

As repeatedly demonstrated by history.

But actual observations of reality no longer rule.

commieBob
Reply to  John Tillman
March 3, 2021 8:30 pm

What we see in operation is the Iron Law of Bureaucracy and the Iron Law of Oligopoly. A certain type of person will eventually take over every organization. Real world observations make it clear that is true.

What’s the antidote? Churn.

Things should not be allowed to stay static for long enough so the ‘wrong people’ can take over. Businesses have to be able to go bankrupt. The people at the top can’t be allowed to stay there for too long.

Capitalist economies with good churn work well and provide things like the American Dream and innovation and the closest thing to a workers’ paradise we’ve ever seen. On the other hand, economies where the same families stay rich for hundreds of years don’t do so well. Good Capitalism, Bad Capitalism

Democracy gives us a chance to throw the bums out. There should be enough political appointments that, when a government is defeated, there is a thorough house cleaning at the top.

What’s wrong with Marxism? It has no churn. It is doomed to be taken over by the ‘wrong people’. Every time. And no, your version of the Marxist paradise would be no exception.

Disputin
Reply to  commieBob
March 4, 2021 2:18 am

Very good point.

Reply to  commieBob
March 4, 2021 1:10 pm

CommieBob:
Churn! An excellent idea to limit the tenure of those at the top.
But authoritarians [Marxist, fascist, socialist] will never voluntarily relinquish power.
However in a democracy we could (should!) have term limits for our dear leaders.
And don’t forget the bureaucracy! Best (bad!) example was Hoover’s FBI.
Of course the civil “servants” (aka deep state) are another problem as well. [servants is in scare quotes since a true servant could be fired
at-will, unlike our civil employees]

GregB
Reply to  commieBob
March 4, 2021 10:22 pm

Thanks for the book link.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  commieBob
March 3, 2021 8:21 pm

Three cheers, Jordan Peterson is on the mend and hopefully we’ll be seeing more of him soon. I watched an interview with him and Dave Rubin the other day. He has been missed.

Wade
March 3, 2021 2:14 pm

The UN is full of bureaucrats and politicians. The chances of them knowing anything about anything is less than 0%. But, that is still higher than the chance that bureaucrats who aren’t accountable to the people will do anything that benefits somebody other than themselves.

shrnfr
March 3, 2021 2:16 pm

Has anyone mentioned to this walking turd that commercial quantity hydrogen, ammonia, etc. is made by steam reforming methane and that it produces CO and CO2?

n.n
March 3, 2021 2:19 pm

Save a bird, a bat, whack a wind turbine. Save a tree, a field of dreams, clear the Green Blight. Reject credit signalling, conserve. Donate to World Walrus Foundation. Repeat. Be merry and gay.

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Reply to  n.n
March 3, 2021 2:25 pm

Being gay is so retro, get with the program comrade.Be trans!

Bryan A
Reply to  Rafe Champion
March 3, 2021 2:41 pm

I thought it was LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ

John Tillman
Reply to  Bryan A
March 3, 2021 3:06 pm

LGBTQWERTYUIOP.

Who knew how futuristic was the designer of the QWERTY key board?

WXcycles
Reply to  John Tillman
March 3, 2021 3:11 pm

ick … now I can’t even use my keyboard …

MarkH
Reply to  John Tillman
March 3, 2021 5:19 pm

It’s the ‘P’ that they really want to add now.

StephenP
Reply to  John Tillman
March 3, 2021 11:32 pm

As there are supposedly 51 different genders, we need an extra 25 new letters on the keyboard.

Eric Harpham
Reply to  StephenP
March 4, 2021 4:03 am

If there are 51 genders please can somebody name them. All that I am aware of are Male, Female and Hermaphrodite.

AlexBerlin
Reply to  Eric Harpham
March 4, 2021 6:53 am

These are SEXES. Gender is a grammatical terminus technicus, and there’s three of them: masculinum, femininum, and neutrum. In German: “der, die, das”. None of this has any bearing on the biology or sexual preferences of living beings. Those who want to tell you otherwise are intentionally confusing you.

fred250
Reply to  Bryan A
March 3, 2021 3:58 pm

Nope,

Its whatever you FEEL like being at any particular time.

MarkH
Reply to  Rafe Champion
March 3, 2021 5:18 pm

I identify as an attack helicopter!

Dennis
Reply to  MarkH
March 3, 2021 7:00 pm

So wind turbine rotors are useful.

bluecat57
March 3, 2021 2:30 pm

The Law of Unintended Consequences can be a right bastard.
What is the trans word for that? Xitch? Bastax?

bluecat57
Reply to  bluecat57
March 3, 2021 2:31 pm

Sorry, not trans, gender-neutral. Errr, gender nonconforming? I’m confused.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 4, 2021 3:11 am

seen this?

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/dr-seuss-books-canceled-over-racist-imagery

I have ONE friend i sent it to..she thought it was GOOD they “were moving with the times”
facepalm!!

fred250
Reply to  bluecat57
March 3, 2021 4:03 pm

gender nonconforming?

is MALE and FEMALE.

Anything else is OK. !

bluecat57
Reply to  fred250
March 3, 2021 4:35 pm

Lol. Just trying to lighten the mood.

Disputin
Reply to  fred250
March 4, 2021 2:22 am

No, Male and Female are sexes. Genders are feminine and masculine.

a_scientist
March 3, 2021 2:37 pm

They will demand carbon capture for metallurgical coal use, thus requiring even MORE power.

Between charging all the batteries to back-up intermittent power and charging the EVs AND the carbon capture, you can see the electricity demand spiraling ever higher and out of touch with reality.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  a_scientist
March 3, 2021 3:25 pm

The world is waking up to the realities of EVs and their batteries. Hyundai has just recalled 80,000+ EVs due to a battery fault that could lead to fires. Who’d a thunk that?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 3, 2021 9:02 pm

It’s at least twice that!

TonyG
Reply to  Eric Worrall
March 4, 2021 8:48 am

Another scary thing to consider is, if you’re in a wreck and trapped in the car, requiring extrication: normal extrication procedures in EVs are unusable. Even simple things like cutting the posts to roll back the roof can be quite dangerous due to the power routing – and since every model differs we can’t know for sure. If you’re rolled over against something and we can only access the bottom of the vehicle (happens often enough), we can’t get to you. Can’t cut the bottom open like with a ICEV.

Hyrbids are bad enough. EVs are a nightmare for firefighters in a multitude of ways.

Reply to  TonyG
March 4, 2021 1:19 pm

TonyG
Yikes! I drive a hybrid (2011 Sonata).
Can you share any links for further reading? Thx

TonyG
Reply to  Bill Zipperer
March 4, 2021 1:38 pm

Sorry, what I know about them is mostly from our ongoing training, such as extrication and fire control classes. The main problems are with extrication and with the high-power cabling, just like with EVs.

markl
March 3, 2021 2:44 pm

Just another “the ends justifies the means” useful idiot. Convincing the world it’s OK to trash successful economies to replace them with ones of their choosing is easy when you control the media.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  markl
March 3, 2021 3:29 pm

Implicit in the demands from the ‘woke’ generation is that they consider themselves intellectually superior to the “deplorables” and that they have all the right answers — despite a dearth of evidence to support their fantasies.

Howard Dewhirst
March 3, 2021 2:45 pm

Sand is not used, glass panels and silicon chips require quartzite, pure silicon yes but it extremely hard and has to be quarried by blasting, so more CO2. There is almost no pure silica sand left in the world.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
March 3, 2021 3:41 pm

Quartzite is simply sand that has undergone diagenesis. While rare, sand suitable for making silicon does exist. I know of a unit in north west Ohio that is probably suitable. Alternative sources can be quartz veins in metamorphic rocks, or even granitic pegmatites.

But, your point that it takes fossil fuels to mine, transport, dis-aggregate, beneficiate, and generally refine silicon ore is valid.

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Howard Dewhirst
March 3, 2021 8:27 pm

You can flush out impurities with air or gasses. It adds a cost dimension that is very small.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
March 5, 2021 12:22 pm

Usually, an initial beneficiation step is to use magnetic concentrators to remove iron-bearing minerals from a crushed aggregate.

John the Econ
March 3, 2021 2:50 pm

Such is the nonsense one gets when people outsource all of their thinking to mere ideology.

dk_
March 3, 2021 2:55 pm

Coal, gas, oil are also necessary for smelting and forming copper and aluminum, resins and adhesives, fiberglass, carbon fibers, and mineral fibers, insulation, concrete and cement as well as all the machines, mining, quarrying, and processing plants to produce those material. Lubricants, welding gases, service supplies and vehicle tires and expendable parts are all produced directly from, and by using fossil fuels. Your entire wind generator or solar panel farm will need to be replaced in about 25 years.
There are no fossil carbon-free energy sources. Suprise!
And BTW, most of the Tesla miles have been run on power from generators fueled by coal or gas with a 10-25% or greater charging and transmission loss.

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saveenergy
March 3, 2021 3:04 pm

You know how ignorant & uninformed the average person is; well 50% are worse …so they get the top jobs.
Thats why mankind is doomed, we’ve learned nothing from history.

Rud Istvan
March 3, 2021 3:05 pm

EW, fun. The world cannot run without steel and silicon.

The UN skips a few steps. Steel is made two bulk ways. Either iron ore reduced by coke, then O2 blast furnaced to remove an engineered amount of the residual carbon, or sponge iron pellets reduced by methane (new bulk process) then refined by blast furnace to remove some of same. Both final processes require pure O2, produced by air liquefaction plants running only on electricity 24/7 and NOT produced by intermittent renewables.

Pure silicon for whatever use can be refined several ways. Sodium hydroxide hot seed crystal reactors powered by electricity was an old MOT method for quartz crystal radio frequency resonators, substituting in WW2 for Brazilian natural quartz crystals. There are several others. All require a steady stream of electricity, which NEVER comes from renewables.

Rusty
Reply to  Rud Istvan
March 4, 2021 6:16 am

Sorry to be pedantic, but the refinement is carried out in a Basic Oxygen furnace after pig iron has been produced from iron ore in a blast furnace.

Sponge iron is produced by reducing iron ore using a reducing gas produced from methane, which is known as direct reduction (See DRI/Midrex process) and then refined in an electric arc furnace.

Gillespie Robertson
Reply to  Rud Istvan
March 4, 2021 6:50 am

You are omitting a not insignificant share of global steel output based on melting scrap in an electric arc furnace i.e. NOT via the blast furnace (which uses coke made from metallurgical coal to produce molten iron which is refined in a steelmaking furnace. ) Of course the power supply for the electric arc furnace needs to be reliable.

WXcycles
March 3, 2021 3:08 pm

How about ending the deadly addiction to parasitic fools in useless time-wasting bonkers UN agencies?

We could solve almost all of the planets fake ‘problems’ in one go.

Scissor
March 3, 2021 3:11 pm

If you’re interested, see the link below re: a webinar by Dr. Steven Chu.
U.S. Secretary of Energy 2009-2013

Stanford University
Thursday, March 4, 2021
5:30 p.m. (Mountain Time)
Zoom Webinar

The Initiative on Energy and Natural Resources Law and Policy
You only have to supply an email address to register.

https://www.getches-wilkinsoncenter.cu.law/

Patrick MJD
March 3, 2021 3:21 pm

I guess it is possible UN Secretary General Guterres has no idea that coal has other uses than being burned for energy.”

He forgets too that “aspirin” was originally discovered in coal (Dead highly compress pants/trees and sunlight) by chance when chemists were looking for dyes. These people really do have no idea and are extremely dangerous.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Patrick MJD
March 4, 2021 9:30 am

Well he studied physics and electrical engineering at university so he must have some idea that the solar and wind unreliables the UN favours are just that.

Dmacleo
March 3, 2021 3:24 pm

damned headline got me LOL

March 3, 2021 3:44 pm

UN is trying to Zuck the world up. Joey the Clown Biden and his demrat comrades are trying to Zuck the USA up more than it already has been Zucked. China is trying to Zuck the world….no time to pursue happiness….have to fight these Zuckers.

S.K.
March 3, 2021 4:10 pm
Tom in Toronto
March 3, 2021 4:13 pm

The West will feel so virtuous once Africa, China and India are producing all the steel and concrete. Then we can impose sanctions on their exports, institute a 0-child-policy and go back to living in eco-friendly caves while saving our intermittent power generated by our last solar panels and wind turbines to occasionally heat up some algae, bugs or weeds. (no evil CO2-making fires!). Eventually we’ll die out and cease breathing out deadly CO2 altogether!

Just think of how fondly the UN will remember our righteous contribution to saving the earth!

Henry
March 3, 2021 4:25 pm

.” Refining iron ore using hydrogen is particularly problematic; any hydrogen contamination of the final product creates a brittle, mechanically unstable steel.”

Well said hydrogen stuffs steel know that from welding class but thermite steel is interesting “solid electricity” to reduce the iron that should scare the commies shirtless

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Anon
March 3, 2021 4:30 pm

That is simply not going to happen. Or other nations will say yes and let the US close down coal, but will otherwise do nothing.

Take a look at the arrogance of this:

Xi Jinping Calls Out US As “Biggest Threat” To China’s Development & Security

The top U.S. diplomat said Washington would continue to compete, collaborate and be “adversarial,” if necessary, with China, “the only country with the economic, diplomatic, military, and technological power to seriously challenge the stable and open international system – all the rules, values, and relationships that make the world work the way we want it to.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/xi-jinping-calls-out-us-biggest-threat-chinas-development-security.

Trump wanted the United States to exist as a strong independent nation, one among many, but the US Intel Community (Biden) wants to run the world (as a Lefty progressive project no doubt). So they have not even sold their “agenda” here (without “fortifying” an election) but want to export it? Using US factories and jobs to buy favor no doubt.

I almost hope China and Russia tell these guys where to stick it and keep opening coal plants. God help the world when Lefties from the United States run it. (facepalm)

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Heffe
March 3, 2021 4:43 pm

Mussolini can tell you what “aligned” means.

William Haas
March 3, 2021 5:19 pm

Those that believe that the use of fossil fuels is bad should stop making use of all goods and services that make use of fossil fuels immediately. That would include all products and materials moved by truck, train, ship, or airplane. It is not just the food we eat and the clothes that we wear but the buildings we live in and the surfaces that we walk on. All electrical power involves wires and insulators whose production and transport has involved the use of fossil fuels. I doubt that many would be able to live very long running naked out in a complete roadless wilderness area. Making use of energy is a very important and vital part of our lives. The best way to at least start conserving on the use of fossil fuels is to replace ageing fossil fueled power plants with nuclear power plants. But people need to realize that there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale to support the conclusion that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. So all of these efforts to reduce CO2 emissions cannot possible have any effect on global climate.

ResourceGuy
March 3, 2021 5:29 pm

Here’s the plan:

All primary steel production will be made in China and all other steel production from scrap will be done elsewhere. (It’s already going that way now.)

All silicon ingot production will be made in China and most of the silicon panel production, except for the other Asian panel plants that China uses to get around tariffs. (It’s already going that way now.)

Any complaints about China will be handled by Xi and the CCP. Got that Guterres?

James F. Evans
March 3, 2021 6:58 pm

What… !!!

IF NOT THAT THEN WHAT…???

CO2 is good for the Earth… it makes the planet greener.

That’s the green deal I like.

Hydrocarbons are a natural product of the Earth.

We should use them.

The alternative? Rationing.

Some people would like that.

Abolition Man
March 3, 2021 6:58 pm

Thanks, Eric!
Once again the Green Blob shows it’s ignorance of the real world! Although his preaching is primarily directed at the once wealthy Western world, it will actually affect the Third World more as poor nations are knocked off the lower rungs of the ladder to prosperity by being prevented from developing their own coal resources. Of course, China and India will ignore him and continue burning coal at ever increasing rates! Maybe they’ll be able to make all the panels and bird choppers GangGreen hopes to install!
In Calizuela they got the system perfected! Wealthy home owners who install panels are paid for any excess electricity they produce while the poor are subsidized by the state due to the high costs of Unreliable Energy. That leaves the middle class paying both the poor and the wealthy for the privilege of having regular disruptions in the electric supply! No wonder the middle class and small business owners are fleeing in such numbers!
I believe the alignment of private and public funding is what we used to call Fascism. That would be where the government tells businesses what to do with a big, green smiley face!

Sara
March 3, 2021 7:44 pm

Oh, for Pete’s sakes, send these UN nimrods to another planet: I hear that Mars is available, and does have a source of water.

Frank from NoVA
March 3, 2021 7:55 pm

“He called for countries to cancel all coal projects in the pipeline, particularly the 37 members of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) who are urged to do so by 2030.”

Three guesses (first two don’t count) as to the name of the country that is both building coal plants hand over fist and is not a member of the OECD. Class? Anyone? Bueller?

Rory Forbes
March 3, 2021 8:17 pm

These people know exactly what they’re saying (doing). They’re far from stupid, however they do think we’re stupid for going along with their senseless projects.

March 3, 2021 10:04 pm

What happens when absolute morons are put in positions of responsibility.

Climate believer
March 3, 2021 11:20 pm

When did everybody agree to be lectured to by an unelected corrupt Portuguese Socialist?

John in Cheshire
March 3, 2021 11:27 pm

I don’t recall the elections for the UN servants? When were they held?

Editor
March 4, 2021 12:15 am

“Guterres actually demanded an end to coal”

Converting that into a headline that claims something else is a rhetorical device that I despise and I think has no place in a scientific blog. Political blog, okay, but this is more inciteful than insightful.

Climate believer
Reply to  Ric Werme
March 4, 2021 1:35 am

The only thing worth despising here is the United Nations mafia, don’t be a patsy.

2hotel9
Reply to  Ric Werme
March 4, 2021 4:32 am

People need to be incited to stand up against the UN.

griff
March 4, 2021 12:55 am

A bit of a stretch this article… desperate, even

2hotel9
Reply to  griff
March 4, 2021 4:30 am

Ahh, your feelings hurt again? Without coal or oil there is no solar or wind. Idiot.

Lrp
Reply to  griff
March 4, 2021 7:32 am

You need to report back

ozspeaksup
March 4, 2021 3:06 am

be careful what you wish for ,seems appropriate here

Bruce Cobb
March 4, 2021 5:33 am

Metallurgical, or coking coal is a red herring issue, and represent only about 7% of total coal useage, which is primarily for energy production. However, the anti-coalers don’t appear to make a distinction, so why should we, in our mockery of them?
Guterres’ “deadly addiction to coal” is so laughably absurd and stupid that you really couldn’t make it up. Although it is remarkably reminiscent of Hansen’s “coal trains of death”.

ResourceGuy
March 4, 2021 6:28 am

Guterres would much rather tilt at climate windmills than deal with hard problems like WHO ‘investigations’ in Wuhan. He knows his limits in China.

Rusty
March 4, 2021 6:32 am

Iron and steel production account for 8% of total worldwide human CO2 emissions. 1.6 billion tonnes of steel are produced every year. 1.5 billion tonnes is produced via the blast furnace/basic oxygen furnace route (BF-BOF). 100 million tonnes is produced via direct reduction (using CO and H2 produced from methane) and electric arc furnace route(DRI-EAF).

Reduction using hydrogen is likely to be less than a couple of hundred tonnes and mostly for research, because the cost is 30% more expensive than the other two routes.

ArcelorMittal have teamed up with Midrex in Germany to try and build a demonstration plant for this process with the aim of producing 100,000 tonnes per year, but there’s no date for when that may happen.

Even if the process cost was similar there’d still be the problem with lack of hydrogen infrastructure. It’s a no go for the quantity and cost required.

Dennis H Cowdrick
March 4, 2021 7:20 am

How can we notify these people that we NEED lots of CO2 in order to live since plants use CO2 to make O2 and food for humans?

Steel Steeler
March 4, 2021 7:24 am

Around 800 kg of coal is used to produce 1000 kg of steel. And steel contains up to 2% carbon, i.e. up to 20 kg of carbon per 1000 kg of steel. Furthermore those up to 20 kg carbon are locked in the steel and not released to the atmosphere.

tolip ydob
March 4, 2021 3:48 pm

The contrarian in me thinks the gaggle recommendation Artificial Intelligence has a sense of humor. Just yesterday YT recommended the following video.

“Illawara Coke”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZMxW5UKRFA

It is an amatuer video from a guy that worked at the coke plant.
As a result details on the USES of coke are barely mentioned.

I don’t ‘know’ but I’ve been told, if a bunch of folks watch something it gets recommended more often. To the folks ahead of me who watched it recently I say “thank you”.

Mark E Shulgasser
March 4, 2021 10:13 pm

Is there a good reference for the necessity of amounts of coal in the manufacture of solar panels and wind turbines — excluding it’s use as a power source?

John
March 5, 2021 2:45 pm

The water at the UN heeds to be checked. There is obviously a contamanate in the water that cause the brain of the imbiber to degenerate.
Perhaps its lead? it happend in Rome 1500 years ago
It is the only viable explanation for the cluster of stupid people the wander the halls of the UN in a delusional state
And while their at it, check the White House pipes a well maybe there was some renovations a few mths back that might explain the same symptoms

Rob Meekel
March 5, 2021 8:14 pm

To add to this the electrodes in an Arc furnace are made out of needle coke. Needle coke is ONLY comes from coal or fossil fuels.

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