NATO chief suggests battle tanks with solar panels as militaries go green

From The National

Here’s a fun one.

Nato should examine how it can power tanks and jets with alternative energy, such as solar panels, to reduce its carbon emissions, the alliance’s secretary general said.

Reducing reliance on fossil fuels would also make troops less vulnerable to attack because they would not have to rely on long supply lines getting fuel to the front line, Jens Stoltenberg said.

The Nato chief suggested that militaries should advance research into low-emitting vehicles because of the advantages they bring, at an online seminar titled New Ideas for Nato 2030.

“Nato should do its part to look into how we can reduce emissions from military operations,” he told the Chatham House event. “We know that heavy battle tanks or fighter jets and naval ships consume a lot of fossil fuel and emit greenhouse gases and therefore we have to look into how we can reduce those emissions by alternative fuels, solar panels or other ways of running our missions.”

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/nato-chief-suggests-battle-tanks-with-solar-panels-as-militaries-go-green-1.1160313

Best line in the story.

He told the seminar that his background as a UN envoy on climate change helped with the proposals.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/nato-chief-suggests-battle-tanks-with-solar-panels-as-militaries-go-green-1.1160313

Willis commented about this news story on social media thusly

The stupid, it burns … an M1 tank gets 0.6 mpg. A gallon of diesel contains ~ 40 kWh of energy. A solar panel puts out ~ 1 kWh per day. A solar panel is about 17 sq. ft. You MIGHT fit four of them on an M1 tank without impairing the weapons and sensors. Then you’d need four Tesla Powerwall batteries, weight half a ton.With that setup, every ten days you could move your tank 0.6 miles …w.

The GWPF also covered this story with this excellent cartoon by Josh.

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Notanacademic
February 14, 2021 11:32 am

What’s he talking about not having to rely on long supply lines, what about ammunition, food and most importantly the extra medical supplies and body bags because the troops were sitting duck’s because it was cloudy or dark. Or perhaps they had a full charge when they were attacked but could only retreat half a mile. Madness.

MST
February 14, 2021 11:39 am

The new anti-tank weapon: cheap, low-flying drones with cans of flat black spray paint. Psssht! The attack was repulsed sir! They deployed Taggers!

ResourceGuy
February 14, 2021 11:53 am

Assign four green crew members to each solar tank. No green draft dodging.

William Haas
February 14, 2021 11:59 am

There is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there is plenty of scientific rationale to support the conclusion that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero. Hence any reduction in CO2 emissions will have no effect on climate. A better approach to all this is to take actions to reduce the need for armed conflict.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  William Haas
February 14, 2021 12:51 pm

There will no longer be a need for armed conflict when everyone gets their way and no one feels cheated or denigrated. That includes the people who are paranoid and insecure.

ResourceGuy
February 14, 2021 12:00 pm

Another Putin project inside NATO.

There is a great lidless eye that watches all from behind the walls of Mordor.

DKR
February 14, 2021 12:10 pm

This kind of stupidly exists at every level in the so called UN

jim2
February 14, 2021 12:11 pm

So, even if there were such a thing as a 500 kWh battery, it would power a battle tank for 34 – 24 minutes. Better hope the battle doesn’t last long!

<i>They are usually equipped with a 1,200–1,500 hp (890–1,120 kW) engine</i>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_battle_tank

ResourceGuy
February 14, 2021 12:41 pm

Welcome to the EU and NATO, you’re going to like it here. honest

ResourceGuy
February 14, 2021 12:45 pm

The dark lord in the Kremlin sees all.

tom0mason
February 14, 2021 12:46 pm

So until all the wrinkles can be ironed out of the solar tanks, all tank from now should have regenerative braking systems, renewable exhaust catalytic converters, and tracks knitted from recycled and renewable materials.

Clyde Spencer
February 14, 2021 12:55 pm

I have read the claim that the average intelligence has been increasing over the past several decades. There is little empirical evidence to support that — in fact, quite the opposite! However, it does seem that the malady starts in Europe and finds its way across the pond, not unlike COVID-19.

Richard Page
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
February 14, 2021 2:06 pm

It seems that there is a mathematical relationship – the intelligence of officials is inversely proportional to the number of states in the organisation. If more states leave, the EU might get smarter!

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
February 14, 2021 3:20 pm

It’s been a slow creep, but some that have gone through the educational process in recent decades might agree with “I have read the claim that the average intelligence has been increasing over the past several decades.”
https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-education-math-white-supremacy
More passing grades! Proof of increasing intelligence!

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
February 14, 2021 4:02 pm

More and more I find myself thinking of this:

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding yourself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

Richard Page
Reply to  jtom
February 14, 2021 5:42 pm

Good luck with that! Sanity is determined by the majority – if you’re in the minority, you’re insane, no matter how good your argument or reasoning is.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  jtom
February 17, 2021 12:01 pm

That is evidence that while our modern technology is vastly superior to Roman technology, the state of humanity has, at best, been static.

Hustla
February 14, 2021 12:59 pm

Lol.. I lived in Sweden for a couple of years and there was two weeks of sunshine in three months of summer. Good luck with that.

Kpar
February 14, 2021 1:13 pm

And we used to mock the French as “Cheese eating surrender monkeys”?

They look downright menacing compared to this guy.

February 14, 2021 1:24 pm

“Royal Air Farce Hover Jet”…

Helium is separated and captured from natural gas. No fossil fuels means no helium.

Of course, they could always use large amount of electricity to split H₂O and fill the balloons with hydrogen… That worked so well in WWI.

Then again, tanks with burning lithium batteries will revive an old derogatory nickname given to our M4 Sherman tanks GI soldiers, They were called Ronson, as in always lights the first timeRonson lighters.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  ATheoK
February 14, 2021 3:01 pm

If helium gets in short supply we can still extract the helium from natural gas wells and just flare off the methane.

February 14, 2021 1:32 pm

Following the Solar-Powered Tanks, the Infantry will be replaced with battalions armed with Solar-Powered Light Sabres.

Reply to  nicholas tesdorf
February 14, 2021 3:12 pm

Equally plausible.
(A magnetic field to contain plasma. We just need some Jedi’s to teach us how to make one.)

drdByte
February 14, 2021 1:43 pm

No wonder NATO is such a joke. It is run by clowns.

Kemaris
February 14, 2021 1:55 pm

Puts me in mind of the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion, where the titular Evangelions (or “Evas”) receive power from massive power cables plugged into the back and can operate for no more than 5 minutes on reserves when the cable is unplugged or severed (which is a major plot point in many battles).

February 14, 2021 2:01 pm

Hello

February 14, 2021 2:03 pm

He is “secretary general”. Don’t know if he is a military general but I sure hope not.

February 14, 2021 2:03 pm

good

February 14, 2021 2:04 pm

good general

February 14, 2021 2:07 pm

We already have nuclear powered ships that don’t burn fossil fuels for propulsion.
Chrysler once proposed a nuclear-powered battle tank.
We already have the answer to the Greenies’ fears, but they don’t want it as it doesn’t cause other people to suffer.

Stevek
February 14, 2021 2:13 pm

Musk is already thinking of a way to get government subsidies out of this.

doc
February 14, 2021 2:14 pm

Greens don’t do math. It just doesn’t feel right.

William Haas
February 14, 2021 2:58 pm

Maybe they should change the entire design of the tank. Instead of steel they should construct them out of Aluminum, fibreglass, and plastic with only fake armor. Instead of The treds that they use they can use bicycle wheels and tires. They can reduce the main gun to not more then 20 mm, They can hence reduce the weight so they can be moved with a small electric motor.and hence will not need a very large battery to operate, As a weapon such a tank would be useless but it would be more energy efficient.