Biden to Kill 200,000 More Jobs Because… Climate Change

Guest “MAVA (Made America Venezuela Already)” by David Middleton

How Many US GOM Jobs Could Go Under Biden?
by Andreas Exarheas|Rigzone Staff|Tuesday, February 09, 2021

If U.S. President Joe Biden’s pause on new oil and natural gas leases in offshore waters becomes permanent, the effect on the U.S. Gulf of Mexico workforce would be considerable.

That’s what’s shown by the National Ocean Industries Association’s (NOIA) latest projections, which were prepared by Energy & Industrial Advisory Partners. According to these figures, which assume that no new lease sales would be held from 2022, Gulf of Mexico offshore oil and natural gas supported employment would decline by almost 200,000 jobs over the next two decades, compared to a base case figure.

[…]

First to Take the Hit

Under a no new leasing regime, the first industry segments to take a hit are the geological and geophysical industry and drilling companies, Milito said.

“There are fewer reasons to explore and fewer lease blocks to drill,” he told Rigzone.

“As leases mature and production declines, other industry segments will quickly follow suit with massive reductions in investment and employment, until there is not much left in any industry segment,” he added.

“Without any new projects on the horizon, spending on capital expenditures, risers, subsea hardware, production platforms, umbilicals and more dissipates,” Milito continued.

[…]

Rigzone

For the full range of damage the current occupant of the White House might inflict on the US offshore oil & gas industry and national security, see the full report prepared for NOIA:

The Economic Impacts of the Gulf of Mexico Oil and Natural Gas Industry

“A three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S, jobs”

Look, John’s last-minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number-one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S, jobs.

Joe Biden, 2008

“Thousands of people who won’t be getting green jobs”

When asked when and where laid-off fossil fuel industry workers can get their new climate-friendly jobs, Biden spokesperson Jen “Circle Back” Psaki replied that the Harris-Biden Dominion would have a plan, to make a plan, to create millions of shovel-ready green jobs…

President Biden revoked the permit for the 1,700-mile pipeline on his first day in office, ending a project that was expected to employ more than 11,000 Americans this year. Doocy asked Psaki to comment on when the workers who lost job opportunities due to Biden’s executive order could expect to receive a “green job” as a replacement.

“When is it that the Biden administration is going to let the thousands of fossil fuel industry workers, whether its pipeline workers or construction workers who are either out of work or will soon be out of work because of Biden’s EO, when it is and where it is that they can go for their green jobs?” Doocy said.

Doocy referenced Biden’s pledge to create “high-paying union jobs” through investments in green energy infrastructure projects. In response, Psaki called on Doocy to present more evidence to back up his question.

“Well, I’d certainly welcome you to present your data of all the thousands and thousands of people who won’t be getting green jobs,” Psaki said. “Maybe next time you’re here you can present that.”

“But you said that they would be getting green jobs, so I’m just asking when that happens?” Doocy said.

[…]

“As the president has indicated when he gave his primetime address to talk about the American Rescue Plan, he talked about his plans to also put forward a jobs plan in the weeks or months following,” Psaki said. “He has every plan to do exactly that.”

[…]

Fox News

“He has every plan… to put forward a jobs plan in the weeks or months following”… I literally could not make this sort of schist up if I was trying.

“Now that’s funny right there”

The funniest thing about all of this, is that Biden’s malfeasance won’t have any effect on the demand for oil & gas or the weather… At least Biden can use dementia as an excuse…

Obama: Is there a separate, uhm, executive order, Greg, with respect to how we’re going to dispose of the detainees?

White House Counsel Greg Craig (later indicted by Robert Mueller): We’ll have a process.

Obama: We’ll be setting up a process.

Gitmo is still open for business.

Even funnier than the funniest thing…

“We can’t just drill our way to lower gas prices”

Obama, 2012

Sorry, Barry… Not only did we drill our way to lower gas prices (Frac’ on dude!)… our government has already started to incompetence its way to higher gas prices… West Texas Intermediate (WTI) is currently $21/bbl higher than it was on Election Day 2020.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/oil-price?type=wti

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ResourceGuy
February 9, 2021 2:08 pm

The green union jobs in Detroit will be saved in stimulus plan #8 after the scheme implodes……for the union children.

Tombstone Gabby
Reply to  ResourceGuy
February 9, 2021 8:31 pm

Saw a newspaper article a couple of days ago – Ford is going to produce an ‘electric’ Mustang. To be built – in China.

Mr.
Reply to  Tombstone Gabby
February 9, 2021 10:49 pm

What’s the point of a Mustang that doesn’t have that V8 rumble?

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Mr.
February 10, 2021 5:19 am

“Cudas sound better.

beng135
Reply to  Mr.
February 10, 2021 7:17 am

Yup, even the venerable Mustang has now been infiltrated & corrupted by the marxist/greenies. If they’re going to build EVs, make new, appropriate names like Sparky, Buzzy, Not-for-Prime-Time, Flammamobile, Short-Ranger, Where-can-I-recharge-this-dang-thing, or Batteries-Cost-a-Fortune.

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rah
Reply to  Tombstone Gabby
February 10, 2021 5:01 am

So Mustang will go from the only truly all American made car to one made by a strengthening enemy.

February 9, 2021 2:10 pm

Nor’easters would be disastrous to a Green America.  Most of the country cannot survive and flourish with intermittent electricity.
Published Feb 8, 2021 at CFACT https://www.cfact.org/2021/02/08/noreasters-would-be-disastrous-to-a-green-america/
 

 

Summary: Most of the nation needs more than intermittent electricity from wind and solar, they need continuous and uninterruptible electricity from natural gas, nuclear, and coal to support the health and economy in their state to survive extreme weather conditions year-round. California, with its temperate climate conditions year-round, can survive dysfunctional energy policies that have resulted in the least reliable electrical power systems in the nation.

Scissor
Reply to  Ronald Stein
February 9, 2021 6:38 pm

Here’s an idea from Joe. Let Chinese companies operate our electrical grid. What could go wrong?

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Scissor
February 9, 2021 7:11 pm

I already suspect Beijing Joe plans on reversing Trump orders to keep the China equipment companies out of our %G networks/

MarkW
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
February 10, 2021 8:29 am

5G?

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  MarkW
February 10, 2021 11:00 am

yep. Held shift down unfortunately.

Hunter’s CCP handlers probably put “Talk to The Big Guy about un-blocking Huawei so it can back into US 5G equipment” at the top of Hunter’s ToDo list.

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DMacKenzie
February 9, 2021 2:14 pm

New York alone will employ far more than the 11,000 pipeline workers with their all green “Scavenge Deadwood, Cardboard, and Dry Leaves for Home Heating“ program for the unemployed. /sarc

Greg61
Reply to  DMacKenzie
February 9, 2021 2:17 pm

Home heating and home construction!

starzmom
Reply to  DMacKenzie
February 9, 2021 2:24 pm

You laugh, and it would be funny if there weren’t a lot of truth in that. When I lived in post WWII Germany as a child, the forests were spick and span–no twigs or branches on the ground. Every one was scavenged up and burned to stay warm in the winter. The people were quite poor, at least compared to moderate income Americans. I wonder if they are that way now with the cost of energy.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  starzmom
February 9, 2021 2:48 pm

I believe Germany has a frightening number of old people who have had to choose between inflated heating costs and inflated food prices … a choice between a relatively short death and a long agonizing one.

Kenji
Reply to  Rory Forbes
February 9, 2021 3:36 pm

You just inspired me to say that … Jao Bi.Dihn’s “renewable” energy is the ‘dog food’ served to elderly pensioners. Eat up! Mr. Johnson … mmmm mmm good! Only $1.75/KWh!! And so nutritious.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Kenji
February 9, 2021 5:51 pm

Scary stuff, isn’t it?

Robert W Turner
Reply to  starzmom
February 10, 2021 6:50 am

Indeed, people at the point of their career like David can laugh at the modern mass delusions, but there are millions of young people out there with geological and geophysics degrees that just finished paying off tens of thousands for those degrees that are now left out in the cold holding their proverbial d!cks. You just finished six years of expensive schooling to become a geophysicist? Congratulations, now go screw solar panels to roofs.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Robert W Turner
February 10, 2021 8:43 am

Except in many states, you have to be a licensed electrician to do that work. Four more years of an apprenticeship, then sit for your journeyman’s or master’s exam.

Gerry, England
Reply to  starzmom
February 10, 2021 9:37 am

No, it is much worse. The trees are being cut down – legally and illegally – to provide either biomass (fancy way of saying wood) or firewood for those who can’t afford electricity and have a stove or fire.

David Stone CEng (Elec)
Reply to  Gerry, England
February 11, 2021 6:44 am

The UK Government wants to ban wood stoves too! Not Green enough.

Abolition Man
Reply to  David Stone CEng (Elec)
February 15, 2021 9:44 pm

It’s so much more efficient to burn the wood in biomass gen plants then ship the power to electric heaters! Ain’t Green Science fun!?

Tim Gorman
February 9, 2021 2:20 pm

The truly sad thing is increasing our dependence on foreign energy: Venezuela, Iran, Middle East, perhaps even China. The money we spend on energy will no longer stay in the US to be invested, to pay wages, or to create jobs

Pauleta
Reply to  Tim Gorman
February 9, 2021 2:31 pm

Even though KXL was cancelled, I’m not complaining about US requiring more imported oil from Canada.

John Endicott
Reply to  Pauleta
February 10, 2021 2:05 am

Well you should. If you are on the American side of the border, it’ll be more expensive. If you are on the Canadian side, because of the added expense and difficulty of getting it to the US, we’ll be buying less of it than we would if transporting it was easier/cheaper (IE via pipeline) meaning less $$$$ flowing into Canadian coffers.

ResourceGuy
February 9, 2021 2:30 pm

He does not care about the country as a whole, only selected states. That pattern is already standing out with the bailout of “his” state governments with $350 B in stimulus and his executive order constituencies.

Scissor
Reply to  ResourceGuy
February 9, 2021 2:55 pm

He has to reward failure, like all good demo☭rats.

MarkW
Reply to  ResourceGuy
February 9, 2021 5:46 pm

Progressives have a long history of using government power to reward friends and punish enemies.
The only difference between then and now, is how open they are about it, and how large the enemies list has gotten.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
February 9, 2021 6:43 pm

You mean like the friends Trump just rewarded by pardoning them using government (presidential ) power? It always makes me laugh how you only see one side of the story.

Mr.
Reply to  Simon
February 9, 2021 7:42 pm

 It always makes me laugh how you only see one side of the story.

Right back at ya, Simon.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Simon
February 9, 2021 8:54 pm

Every president does it, Simon, and there’s always controversy.

Simon
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
February 9, 2021 10:35 pm

Not the way Trump did. Take a look at the names of the people. Many were people he benefitted from personally, or politically. It has never happened like that in those numbers. Never.

ironargonaut
Reply to  Simon
February 9, 2021 11:24 pm

So, Obama didn’t pardon the man who stole documents by hiding them in his socks, documents on what led to 9-11 happening that caused the deaths of thousands of Americans. This man managed to destroy Clinton era Whitehouse documents, some that we don’t know all what they contained. An act that benefited democrats. If there was nothing damning in them why steal and destroy them?

Simon
Reply to  ironargonaut
February 9, 2021 11:51 pm

So, Obama didn’t pardon the man who stole documents by hiding them in his socks, documents on what led to 9-11″
Obama didn’t know the guy or profit from him politically. You can argue about individual cases all you like, but no one in US history has pardoned so many close to him. And that is wrong. It stinks of dare I say it…. quid pro quo.

John Endicott
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 2:12 am

How Soon we forget Bill Clinton’s pardons. Roger Clinton (his borther), Susan McDogal (whitewater partner, of the Clinton whitewater scandal fame), former administration members John Deutch (ex-CIA director) and Henry Cisneros (ex-housing chief), etc.

Simon, you are so blinded by your own biases it isn’t funny.

Robert W Turner
Reply to  John Endicott
February 10, 2021 6:55 am

To be blind would require eyes, NPCs have optical sensors and see exactly what they are programmed to.

Bill Rocks
Reply to  John Endicott
February 10, 2021 7:29 am

Do not forget that Bill Clinton pardoned fugitive Marc Rich a few minutes before mid-night on his final day and without consulting the justice dept. At the time, Rich was the greatest tax cheat in US history. He owed a few hundred million if my memory is correct.
Marc Rich from Wiki: “…tax evasion, wire fraud, racketeering and trading with Iran during the oil embargo (at a time when Iranian revolutionaries were still holding American citizens hostage after storming the US embassy).”

There were clear connections including $1 million donation to Clinton campaign and the gift of a gold saxophone from Denise Rich.

Simon
Reply to  John Endicott
February 10, 2021 9:53 am

Agreed Clinton let a few go, but again nothing like Trump. Shall I list the ones Trump pardoned that had a direct connection to him?

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 3:45 pm

The sad thing, is that Simon actually believes he’s come up with a killer argument.

DonM
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 3:45 pm

simon,

List away.

Robert W Turner
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 6:54 am

Well I’m sure Trump would have pardoned a terrorist that literally bombed the Capitol Building instead of a guy that was railroaded by leftist Totalitarians but Obama already pardoned all the domestic terrorists. Okay to be fair Obama only pardoned the leftist domestic terrorists, Ted Kyzinski is still in prison.

MarkW
Reply to  Robert W Turner
February 10, 2021 8:35 am

Kyzinski was totally opposed to modern lifestyle. That’s pretty much a leftwing position.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 8:33 am

Simon really does see the world the way his handlers tell him to see it.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
February 10, 2021 9:54 am

Mark really does repeat the same old tripe.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 3:46 pm

Since it’s true, why shouldn’t it be repeated.
Do you really hate the truth that much?

John Endicott
Reply to  MarkW
February 12, 2021 3:27 am

truth to simon is like garlic and holy symbols to a vampire.

fred250
Reply to  Simon
February 9, 2021 9:27 pm

FEEBLE attempt to change the subject, slimon.

Simon
Reply to  fred250
February 9, 2021 11:22 pm

I’d rather make a “feeble attempt” than to be …. “feeble” Fred.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 8:35 am

To bad you’ve failed at both Simon.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
February 10, 2021 9:54 am

Too bad you have nothing to add mark that a five year old couldn’t.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 3:47 pm

This from Simon, self awareness is always the first thing to be eliminated when one becomes a progressive.

Reply to  fred250
February 9, 2021 11:26 pm

Pathetic attempt at ad hominem, Fred 508, you ol’e S.O.B.

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mkelly
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 5:47 am

Ever heard of Mark Rich? Or the Puerto Rican freedom fighters?

George Daddis
Reply to  mkelly
February 10, 2021 7:10 am

Yes, in order to boost Hillary’s image in NYC, Bill pardoned terrorists!

On August 11, 1999, Clinton commuted the sentences of 16 members of FALN, a Puerto Rican paramilitary organization that set off 120 bombs in the United States, mostly in New York City and Chicago.

Simon
Reply to  George Daddis
February 10, 2021 11:58 am

You forgot to copy and paste this bit…
Clinton offered clemency on the condition that the prisoners renounce violence, seeing as none of the 16 had been convicted of harming anyone and they had already served 19 years in prison. This action was lobbied for by ten Nobel Laureates and the Archbishop of Puerto Rico”

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 3:48 pm

By your logic, everyone who promises to never do it again should be let out of prison.

beng135
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 7:30 am

Wow, simple-minded Simon. Are you going for the most-dislikes record?

Simon
Reply to  beng135
February 10, 2021 9:55 am

That’s my aim. How am I doing?

beng135
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 7:55 am

You’re doing great. But you may not last much longer…..

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 7:57 am

Patrick Leahy should have recused himself from voting in the anti-constitutional senate farce, but he didn’t; obviously you are comfortable with this clown show because of your hatred for President Trump.

Simon
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
February 10, 2021 9:57 am

It’s true I think Trump is guilty and should be found so. Clearly it is not “anti-constitutional” given it is proceeding. Suck it up.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 11:55 am

Request DENIED.

I’m guessing you were one of the paid instigators who were breaking into the capital bldg. before President Trump even finished his rally speech.

Ooops.

Simon
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
February 10, 2021 1:25 pm

No that was some of the Trump faithful (morons) who couldn’t wait for his official announcement to go forth and riot.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 3:52 pm

You know that as a fact, or are you just declaring what ever you need to keep the lies going?

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 7:45 am

There was no such announcement, not that you care.
How about Trump saying 3 or 4 times that the demonstrations should always be peaceful?

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 8:48 am

There never was an official announcement. Over and over again, Trump insisted that all demonstrations should be peaceful.
However truth has never been a friend to you, has it Simon?

Simon
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
February 10, 2021 1:34 pm

I see some of the gullible Trump tricked are not quite so keen on him now they will be spending a good deal of their lives in prison while he is swanning it at Maralago.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 8:49 am

Now this is funny, Simon declaring that those who don’t believe as he does are just gullible.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 3:52 pm

Wow, the Senate, on a partisan basis votes that this is constitutional, therefore it is. Are you really as biased as you sound?
Anyone who’s ever actually read Trump’s speech knows that he is guilty of nothing. But then SImon has never been interested in facts or reality. He’s like all progressives, the only thing that matters is winning and getting more free stuff.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
February 10, 2021 3:59 pm

Anyone who’s ever actually read Trump’s speech knows that he is guilty of nothing.”
So clearly you are watching cartoons and not the trial. The speech is only a small part of this. Try informing yourself before typing. The world will change for the better for you.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 7:46 am

As usual, the only thing Slimon wants to know is what the Democrats tell him to know.
Reading the actual speech, meaningless. Listening to what the Democrat managers say, imperative.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 8:49 am

BTW, how do videos of the riot prove that Trump instigated the riot? As usual, Simon ignores reality in favor of his favorite ideological rants.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 12, 2021 3:10 pm

I wonder if Simon had the courage to continue watching the impeachment proceedings after his team was finished with their carefully edited videos that showed nothing.
Probably not, given how hard Simon has worked in the past to avoid learning things he didn’t want to know.

Things like Democrats using much harsher rhetoric in support of the Antifa/BLM riots. But nobody cared, because it couldn’t be used against Trump.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 8:33 am

Most of the people who were pardoned by Trump are those who have been persecuted by liberals for failing to obey sufficiently.

You really do see the world through far left wing glasses, don’t you.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
February 10, 2021 10:00 am

Most of the people Trump pardoned are the ones he got to do his dirty work. Quid pro quo. Hell, he even pardoned Bannon who stole from Trumps own supporters. That’s a new low for even Trump. You have to wonder what Bannon knows that Trump wants kept quiet.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 3:54 pm

Poor Simon, he hates Trump so much that he can only see what he wants to see.

Does he have any evidence? Of course not, Trump is evil, therefore he must be guilty, even if Simon has to make it up.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
February 10, 2021 4:00 pm

Four years of evidence. None of it made up. Where shall I start?

drednicolson
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 5:57 pm

There’s the rub. You never “start”. Vague assertions do not damning evidence make.

Simon
Reply to  drednicolson
February 10, 2021 7:14 pm

It’s just there is so much where do you start?

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 7:47 am

Once again, Slimon admits that he doesn’t have anything other than lies and bluster.

DonM
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 3:51 pm

“It’s just there is so much where do you start?”

Start with the stuff he did prior to the first call for impeachment. Then move forward chronologically.

(chronologically means in time …)

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 12, 2021 3:11 pm

Twice now, Simon claims a mountain of evidence, but can’t actually present anything.
It’s almost as if he knows he’s got nothing, but has to keep playing in order to run out the clock.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 7:47 am

Once again, Slimon just declares that his evidence is overwhelming, but he can’t manage to list even a single example.
More evidence that even Slimon knows that he’s spewing garbage.

John the Econ
February 9, 2021 2:36 pm

Anyone else notice that whenever Progressives talk about “green jobs”, they are always for someone else to do? Of all the green activists who show up at my front porch to pitch their agenda and/or to get me to sign some petition, when I ask what they are studying for or do for a living, it’s always some non-demanding field. It’s never “work construction” or anything that involves the creation of a physical good or service.

The Democrats have fully become the Marie Antoinette party: The answer to every question will be “learn to code” or “install solar panels”.

Derg
Reply to  John the Econ
February 9, 2021 3:17 pm

Build back better…. for someone else.

Kevin R.
Reply to  Derg
February 10, 2021 10:30 am

The question: What has Joe Biden ever built?

Reply to  Kevin R.
February 10, 2021 12:52 pm

Public debt!

Simon
Reply to  Peter D. Tillman
February 10, 2021 4:56 pm

Huh? Trump piled on the debt. The growth in the annual deficit under Trump ranks as the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any U.S. presidential administration, according to a calculation by a leading Washington budget maven, Eugene Steuerle, co-founder of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. And unlike George W. Bush and Abraham Lincoln, who oversaw the larger relative increases in deficits, Trump did not launch two foreign conflicts or have to pay for a civil war. Biden has a long way to go.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Simon
February 10, 2021 6:31 pm

Wow! You think Trump not launching foreign wars is a bad thing? If we are going to go into debt it’s better to spend the money here instead of on foreign wars! Wish the Democrats could be the same way.

BTW, the Dems approved every single dollar that Trump spent. They aren’t blameless.

Simon
Reply to  Tim Gorman
February 10, 2021 7:11 pm

Didn’t say that. My point is he still piled up the debt even without having to pay for a war.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 6:06 am

That debt resulted in record low unemployment for the most vulnerable segments of our population, in wage growth not seen since the 80’s, in manufacturing coming back to the US, a record setting short time for development of a vaccine to treat a pandemic, and for energy independence for the US.

Each and everyone a benefit for America.

And what are the Dems in the process of doing? Destroying our major cities like they destroyed Detroit, putting us back in thrall to foreign energy producers, kil*ing jobs with no replacement jobs in sight, kil*ing the elderly, making the ki*ling of babies legal at any time – including after they have been born, implementing censorship of beliefs contrary to their own, returning to a foreign policy of appeasement toward China and Iran, using the banking system to spy on the American people, forgiving debt that was legally incurred – thus making those who paid their debts or who struggled to not have any debt into chumps, and opening our borders to any and all, including terrorists and criminals.

Jeesh! Give me Trump any day!

Simon
Reply to  Tim Gorman
February 10, 2021 7:13 pm

BTW, the Dems approved every single dollar that Trump spent. They aren’t blameless.”
Like hell they did. No way they approved paying for the lame wall.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 5:56 am

And you think the *wall* was the source of all the debt that was incurred? Wow! Talk about tunnel vision!

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 11, 2021 7:48 am

Funny, when Obama was running up the largest debt in history, Slimon had nothing to say.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
February 11, 2021 9:40 am

Obama run up the largest debt in history. BS. Make it up Mark in action again.

TonyG
Reply to  David Middleton
February 11, 2021 12:23 pm

Now, David, you know better than to bring up those pesky FACTS 🙂

MarkW
Reply to  TonyG
February 12, 2021 3:15 pm

Well look at that. Start bringing up facts and Simon runs away, faster than a vampire fleeing sunrise.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
February 12, 2021 3:14 pm

Poor little Simon, such a big mouth, such a little brain.
Obama ran up more debt than all previous presidents, combined.

John the Econ
Reply to  Kevin R.
February 10, 2021 6:07 pm

Well-monetized family connections?

DonM
Reply to  Kevin R.
February 11, 2021 3:55 pm

What has Joe Biden ever built?

family fortune(through graft)

familial mental defects.

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  John the Econ
February 9, 2021 7:53 pm

We can put them to work immediately in clean, renewable energy generation. Just build millions of exercise bikes with electric generators, and have the displaced workers ride all day to produce electric power. An average, healthy adult can produce 75 watts steady-state, and at a “livable minimum wage” of $15 an hour, that’s a mere $200 per kW-hr. Bill Gates would find that affordable.

Washington DC consumes 51.14 billion kW-hr of energy (in all forms, but 69% of it is electricity from out of “state”) annually, so we could immediately offer 328 million people employment in well-paying green jobs that require no skill or thought – nothing other than the ability to ride a stationary bicycle for 8 hours a day (something any of you peons could probably do without f***ing it up), so that our betters may rule us in comfort, without worrying about where the next kilowatt hour is coming from. Think of the health benefits to those fully-employed people! I envy them already!

Since these newly rich workers could afford it, the government could justify an income tax rate of 40%, resulting in $4 trillion in new revenue the government could spend on wonderful new projects!

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John the Econ
Reply to  Michael S. Kelly
February 10, 2021 6:10 pm

Actually, this idea was covered here: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2089049/

Fifteen Million Merits: In a world where people’s lives consist of riding exercise bikes to gain credits, Bing tries to help a woman get on to a singing competition show.

ResourceGuy
February 9, 2021 2:37 pm

The displaced American workers can join the Venezuelans on the roads of stateless nomads. As Maduro said, you can find free housing in those vacated homes and condos after the exodus.

Gregory Woods
Reply to  ResourceGuy
February 9, 2021 3:26 pm

Actually, quite a few Venezuelans are showing up here in Colombia. There are plenty of overpasses for them to set up camp beneath….

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  ResourceGuy
February 10, 2021 1:22 pm

I love the “MAVA” Mr. Middleton opens with! At least, I like the humor, as scary as the fact is…

DonM
Reply to  Michael S. Kelly
February 11, 2021 3:58 pm

find me a blue hat with big white letters ‘MAVA” on the front (and smaller DNC back) on the & I’ll buy it.

Rud Istvan
February 9, 2021 2:39 pm

As depressed as I am about all this illegitimate nonsense, I now maybe see a silver lining in this dark cloud. Five simple ‘silver lining’ points despite all the pain Biden is and will cause.

First, Biden has already grossly over-reached, and people (Trumpka) are already reacting negatively to that.

Second, the Dems went TDS crazy with the second shampeachment, and that is going to land them in very negative light in history and in 2022.

Third, it has flushed out all the Rinos. For example Liz Cheney and Ben Sasse have been censured.

Fourth, as the steal evidence comes to light (example, what are the Maricopa supervisors hiding by refusing to honor the Arizona Senate subpoena?), states will tighten election laws. This is happening in Georgia. The PA legislator suit is at the SC, and is not mooted by the PA certification for Biden since is fundamentally procedural and a ruling applies to all future elections.

Finally, the ill advised lawsuits by Dominion and Smartmatic will expose the subtle part of the steal. The Atlanta and Detroit videos expose the old fashioned brute force part. The fractional votes (needed for Maine and now Alaska ranked preference voting enabled in any other state (think Antrim County Michigan) is only subtle until exposed. We have two years to fix the election process, take back the House in 2022, and then the White House in 2024. Taking back the Senate in 2022 is a steep climb structurally.

Derg
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 9, 2021 3:19 pm

“ Finally, the ill advised lawsuits by Dominion and Smartmatic will expose the subtle part of the steal.”

They won’t follow through with lawsuits.

bigoilbob
Reply to  Derg
February 9, 2021 3:23 pm

They won’t follow through with lawsuits.”

Uh, ok……

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/media/smartmatic-fox-news-giuliani-powell-lawsuit/index.html

Derg
Reply to  bigoilbob
February 9, 2021 4:42 pm

We shall see 😉

Derg
Reply to  bigoilbob
February 9, 2021 5:04 pm

Btw BigOil, are these allegations like Russia colluuuusion?

bigoilbob
Reply to  Derg
February 10, 2021 5:09 am

BigOil, are these allegations like Russia colluuuusion?”

In so far as it occurred, then yes.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/collusion-happened/560894/

MarkW
Reply to  bigoilbob
February 10, 2021 8:38 am

Wow, you really do believe whatever your handlers tell you to belive.
It’s been shown that the dossier that the whole mess was based on was a complete fabrication.

Richard Page
Reply to  bigoilbob
February 10, 2021 1:24 pm

By the same metric used in that article – Bush colluded with Blair, Obama colluded with Cameron and Reagan with Thatcher. In fact Obama and Hillary Clinton was colluding with Russia way before Trump. Frankly every world leader ‘colludes’ with foreign governments on a regular basis – it’s the basis of international negotiation and agreements.

John Endicott
Reply to  bigoilbob
February 10, 2021 2:17 am

big oily bob, it’ll likely get as far as Mikey Mann’s lawsuits. IE sit in the courts going nowhere for years before being dismissed due to Dominion/smartmatics delays. Like Mann, there’s no way they want to let the other side have a shot at the discovery process. What they want is PR (which they’ve gotten) and a settlement. failing a settlement, they’ll settle for dragging out the process long enough to drain the other side of money (IE the one with deeper pockets wins).

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TonyG
Reply to  John Endicott
February 10, 2021 9:22 am

That’s pretty much what I’m expecting to see happen. The process is the punishment.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Derg
February 9, 2021 5:18 pm

Well speaking as a retired lawyer, they cannot nw avoid, onnthe same grounds as Mann v Steyn. You just countersue.

John Endicott
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 10, 2021 2:19 am

Even if they can’t avoid (due to a countersuit) they can, like Mann, endlessly delay proceedings till the public has forgotten all about it. How many years has Mann v Steyn being going on with ZERO progress? Never forget that the process is the punishment.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 10, 2021 8:00 am

Yep.

Simon
Reply to  Derg
February 9, 2021 6:46 pm

They won’t follow through with lawsuits.”
Oh yes they will. Why wouldn’t they with so much money to be made from the likes of Rudy and Sidney. Money for jam.

fred250
Reply to  Simon
February 9, 2021 9:29 pm

So much to LOSE, you mean, don’t you slimon!

Simon
Reply to  fred250
February 9, 2021 10:26 pm

No that’s not what I meant which is why I didn’t say it.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  fred250
February 10, 2021 8:02 am

Every day the hatred that flows out of Simon grows. How sad.

MarkW
Reply to  Carlo, Monte
February 10, 2021 8:39 am

The further behind losers get, the more they hate those who have been successful.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Derg
February 10, 2021 8:00 am

Wait for the counter-claims, then they will be stuck.

gringojay
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 9, 2021 3:26 pm

The heirs of America are getting a lesson in why it’s not a good strategy to have dead people voting in elections.

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bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 9, 2021 3:40 pm

Smartmatic is on solid ground. Smartmatic was use in ONE county in California.
.
.
https://www.smartmatic.com/us/smartmatic-fact-checked/

Rud Istvan
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 5:22 pm

Actually, no. It does not depend on where used. Depends only on what they claimed about their system versus what is true about their system. Remember theirs is a defamation suit, fully defensible by proving true facts. They are going down if this goes to trial. That is their hope.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  David Middleton
February 9, 2021 6:48 pm

The defendants disregard for facts is “malice.”

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 9:31 pm

So that is where your abject disregard for facts comes from…

… a deep seated malice of self hatred.

John Endicott
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 2:24 am

if disregarding facts was “malice”, the you would be one of the most malicious posters on these boards.

MarkW
Reply to  John Endicott
February 10, 2021 8:40 am

Looks like Simon wants to challenge for that position.

LdB
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 6:05 am

Not in US legal terms it isn’t you must prove ACTUAL malice.
https://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m006.htm

So it needs to be reckless or they failed to do something that was required … otherwise it comes under the first amendment.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 8:39 am

Speaking of disregarding facts, here comes bethan.

Richard Page
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 1:28 pm

No it isn’t. It could be allowed as a contributing factor but it doesn’t establish malice, nor does it attribute ongoing malice to a point prior to when the allegations were made. Not a good argument.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 11, 2021 7:53 am

And bethan goes out of his way to demonstrate yet another area he is acutely ignorant of.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 9, 2021 6:44 pm

Actually yes it does matter where used. If it was only used in one county, then it is obvious that the accused defamers didn’t do their due diligence.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 9, 2021 6:47 pm

PS Rud, this is a defamation suit, and does not involve anything “only on what they claimed about their system”

LdB
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 6:38 am

You left out what is protected under the first amendment … unsurprisingly Fox has moved to have it dismissed under the first amendment.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 5:26 pm

As a second comment, Bethan, you really should research more before posting at all. As I have done on multiple topics since 2011.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 9, 2021 6:42 pm

As a lawyer Rud, you should research the facts behind Smartmatic before posting your “opinion.” Only ONE county in the entire country used it (LA.)

If you think Smartmatic was used in OTHER counties, please name them.

beng135
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 7:35 am

“Smartmatic-fact-checked” doesn’t mean what you think it means.

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George Daddis
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 10, 2021 7:25 am

Rud, don’t forget the giddy report in TIME that outlined the massive political collusion of big tech, MSM, activist groups, election boards and of course national politicians to “fortify” the election process..

This MAY have been all legal (although using Federally subsidized funds to provide easier voting to select districts based on political registration may be walking a fine line) the GOP has two years to wake up and put in counter measures to be able to compete “fairly”.

TonyG
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 10, 2021 9:19 am

You are much more hopeful than I.

Bro. Steve
February 9, 2021 2:40 pm

Oil and gas production in America mostly happens in red states. It’s revenge time on the red necks in the red states.

OweninGA
Reply to  Bro. Steve
February 9, 2021 6:17 pm

Yes, but mostly useless as it won’t affect drilling in most red states as that is on private property. The red state producers will actually reap a windfall in this because Biden is foolishly taking away all their blue state and purple state competitors.

It will be horrible for the rest of us as fuel prices “necessarily skyrocket”

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Bro. Steve
February 9, 2021 7:18 pm

Two Blue states are fretting the loss of revenue already, Colorado and New Mexico. As the job losses rise there and state revenue falls and they will have to make up for it by raising taxes, because the unions won’t let the Democrats reduce the size of their outlays, Beijing Joe’s EO’s could swing them back into purple territory for GOP pickups.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
February 10, 2021 8:06 am

In the Denver area, the communist/BLMers are still proudly displaying their yard signs, the divide between sanity and insanity is intense.

High Treason
February 9, 2021 2:46 pm

Did the American People vote for this climate cult insanity? Was it even a fair vote?
There are pending court proceedings Dominion v Rudy Guiliani and Sidney Powell. Voting machine vote flipping, which was being closely monitored by the Space Force digital surveillance arm of security services will be revealed in discovery. As the defence has the right to produce evidence to defend themselves, the prosecution will be sunk by the weight of evidence Trump and the Patriots gathered. The election itself was a gigantic sting operation.

It is now not just conspiracy to commit election fraud, it is now demonstrable election fraud. The false president has been making Executive Orders and attempting to pass them off as law-dictatorial power abuse.

February 19 is when the first of the fake Executive Orders theoretically comes in to effect. This should be the signal for the Military to make their move. The Constitution has been violated. It is the sworn duty of the Military to uphold the Constitution.

Will media report what is easily the story of the century? If not, why not? Why would the media NOT report the story of the century? They would know only full well that the People would be very keen to know about it.

Personally, I think it will be time for mass letterboxing by the Patriots if mainstream media refuse to report the earth shattering news. It will be time for this manual approach if social media censors people sharing the news in their feed. It will be well and truly time for the manual approach if Google etc censors out the news story of the century. It will make the where -were-you stories like JFK assassination, 9/11, Princess Di stories look like fluff stories of cats being rescued from a tree.If the biggest news of your lifetime is simply not reported or dismissed as a nothing burger, we should hang our heads in shame if we continue to listen to anything they say ever again.

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Clyde Spencer
Reply to  High Treason
February 9, 2021 4:19 pm

Many people voted based on what they believed because of what they were told by the MSM. The shame and responsibility fall at the feet of the professional, know-nothing wordsmiths who call themselves journalists. People voted against Trump because the MSM blamed Trump for people dying, when the USA was doing about average, compared to other industrialized countries, based on what the medical experts were advising Trump to do. People voted for Biden because the MSM suppressed the news about his son’s behavior and unethical payments.

Before this is all over, I expect it to become obvious to even those who wear blinders that only allow them to see to the left. When people realize they have been lied to, and it is affecting their livelihood and the kind of world their children will inherit, I expect them to become very mad and change their voting next time. Now, if we can only be sure that it is impossible to commit voting fraud, things can still be turned around.

TonyG
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
February 10, 2021 9:32 am

I’m not sure they’ll change. In California, despite the fact that the state has been single-party rule for ages, the voters keep voting in the same people who make the policies everyone complains about.

Doonman
Reply to  TonyG
February 10, 2021 1:40 pm

California has 58 counties. Four of those counties determine all statewide election results due to their population size and all are in Southern California. Recent facts are clear though, the fastest growing political party in California is “No Party Preference” and wealthy Californians are increasingly voting with their feet, so the times, they are a changing.

OweninGA
Reply to  High Treason
February 9, 2021 6:20 pm

There will be no coup d’etat. The military will not do that. We are stuck with Joe Biden for the next four years or until they can 25th amendment him to give us Harris, which I assume is in the works as we speak.

Doonman
Reply to  OweninGA
February 10, 2021 1:51 pm

Joe is a party player, so no 25th amendment is necessary. Dr. Jill will tell him to resign so he can spend more of his cognizant time left with family (except his newest granddaughter), and the coup d’etat for Harris will be complete.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  High Treason
February 9, 2021 6:32 pm

“This should be the signal for the Military to make their move. The Constitution has been violated. It is the sworn duty of the Military to uphold the Constitution.”

Bad idea.

We should follow all legal means to rectify our situation, and I think we have the means to do so.

Remember, Trump’s supporters repesent half the country and are not just going to tuck their tails between their legs and slink off because the radical Democrats say “boo!”.

We don’t need a military coup, we just need to use our heads and use the tools the Founding Fathers gave us, which allow us to fend off dictators, big and small.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  David Middleton
February 9, 2021 7:24 pm

They gave us 2A for a reason.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  David Middleton
February 9, 2021 9:00 pm

okay they wrote 2A for a reason…
to make no doubt for future generations amd future governments what the ultimate backstop is for the People.
Libs hate being told where they cannot go with government police powers.

TonyG
Reply to  David Middleton
February 10, 2021 9:33 am

Seems they were right about that.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  David Middleton
February 10, 2021 9:39 am

As I recall from reading years ago, the main thrust of the counterarguments for the original 12 amendments was there was no need to protect the citizens against government actions that were clearly not permissible. Glad that argument didn’t prevail.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
February 10, 2021 5:59 am

Woodrow Wilson: “The thesis of the state socialist is, that no line can be drawn between private and public affairs which the State may not cross at will; that omnipotence of legislation is the first postulate of all just political theory”

This was Wilson *defending* Socialism, not criticizing it.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  David Middleton
February 9, 2021 9:23 pm

The 14th Amendment extended those “privileges and immunities of citizens” as binding on the States as well. Which why most of the COVID restrictions that governors have placed on freedom of “peaceably to assemble” are patently unconstitutional.

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 9, 2021 7:22 pm

Democrats want to break those tools by changing the rules. Pack the Supreme Court for one. Mandates to the States on ballot harvesting is another. The Plandemic showed them how to force more States to opt for mail-in ballots, thus paving the way for future harvests.

Carlo, Monte
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
February 10, 2021 8:10 am

I am becoming more and more convinced that if they are not stopped, the country will break apart.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
February 10, 2021 8:33 am

I agree the Democrats want to break those tools, but they haven’t done it yet, and we should take steps to prevent them from doing so, if we can.

I think we can. It might not take more than a Senator Joe Machin deciding he wants to open up the Keystone XL pipeline again. Otherwise, he doesn’t vote for Joe’s $1.9 billion one-party spending bill.

And Manchin has said he would not vote to pack the U.S. Supreme Court.

And a couple of other Democrat senators may possibly vote against Biden in the future.

And then the States have their rights, and the Red States are definitely going to resist Biden’s eonomic stupidity.

I see where 13 Red States are looking at suing the Biden administration over the Keystone XL pipeline, and it will probably be more States suing eventually.

A federal judge has extended the stay on Biden’s Exective Order stopping deportations.

We have lots of tools to use against dictators. We need to be creative.

Robert W Turner
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 10, 2021 7:01 am

Republicans have been using this method since The Compromise of 1877. It’s worked out swell.

George Daddis
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 10, 2021 7:53 am

The Democrats didn’t win by using only one tactic!

The GOP needs to use the TIME article as a blueprint and address each and everyone one of the mechanisms they put in place.

Go to the courts and reverse the various clearly unconstitutional regulations put in place by several states. (Courts like the SCOTUS don’t like to overturn an election that has already taken place, but there should be more favorable rulings for regulations for future balloting.)

Get the public behind elimination of what was intended as “emergency COVID” rules such as ballot harvesting, 24 hour unsupervised drop boxes, UNREQUESTED absentee ballots etc.

Insist on purging the voter registration rules and go to court against states that refuse this commons sense action. Investigate and publicize the number of illegal registrations (deceased, out of state, underage) in 2020 – accepting that the refs blew it but the game is over.

Strengthen election rules that say it is illegal to provide voting assistance to districts based solely on the political registration of that district.

Continue to fight for the same voter integrity rules that every other country in the world requires; in person voting with very few exceptions. voter ID etc.

Broadcast every incompetent and harmful action that the Biden Administration enacts with details on the damage it does to the average citizen.

It will be expensive. But if Ol’ Joe can assemble “the largest Fraud organization in history (sic)” so can the GOP if they ever want to win another election.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  George Daddis
February 10, 2021 8:44 am

Republicans will definitely need to insist on election reform. Proving who you are should be a requirement for voting. Republicans should not compromise on this issue. There’s no reason everyone can’t get a photo ID. That’s the Democrats argument: That poor people can’t get a photo ID. That’s just plain BS. Anyone can get a photo ID, and most people are required to have them for other purposes anyway. If the Democrats find a person who can’t get a photo ID, then the Democrats ought to take action to see that that person has a photo ID. How hard is that? It’s a ridiculous argument to claim requiring voter ID suppresses the vote.

The case for voter reform would be helped immensely if Private Citizen Trump would provide us with some credible evidence of 2020 election fraud.

I see where Mike Lindell, the My Pillow guy, has a three hour video out supposedly documenting the fraud, but I haven’t seen it yet. An application needed to run videos in Windows XP went obsolete a few weeks ago, so I can’t watch it using XP. I guess I’ll have to try watching it on my phone. MichaelJLindell.com is the address.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 10, 2021 11:41 am

I just revisited michaeljlindell.com and there is a place where you can download the video, if you can’t watch it in your old, outdated browser. 🙂

I’m downloading it now, and then I’ll get to see what Mr. Lindell has to say about the subject.

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
February 11, 2021 8:00 am

Pretty much every country that has elections has voter id requirements.
The only reason for opposing such requirements is that it makes cheating harder.

Robert W Turner
Reply to  High Treason
February 10, 2021 6:59 am

You’re assuming that reality and sanity will prevail.

Mad Mac
February 9, 2021 2:54 pm

Yep,
I noticed that in New Mexico that the price of a gallon of gas jumped 30 cents overnight and that was at the cheaper outlets. Good going creepy Joe! There is sure to be a future backlash as citizens wake up!

gringojay
Reply to  Mad Mac
February 9, 2021 3:30 pm

Wait … are you telling me gas prices are shooting up as fast as Biden’s vote count did at 2 in the morning after election day?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Mad Mac
February 9, 2021 6:36 pm

Yes, the gasoline prices are up, and I haven’t seen Biden offer to compensate the poor for them having to pay more for their gasoline today. Some of them probably passed up buying food because they had to fill their tank for work tomorrow. Gasoline costs take a big chunk out of poor persons budget. Joe, and his fellow Elites, wouldn’t know anything about that, though.

Thanks, Joe. You really are for the little guy.

Rory Forbes
February 9, 2021 2:55 pm

Anyone who believes that Biden has anything to do with what is taking place has been fast asleep for the past year. There is always someone within arms reach of him so he doesn’t ruin the carefully orchestrated plan. The US government is almost entirely being conducted “behind the curtain” and Toto (media) isn’t even getting a look in.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Rory Forbes
February 9, 2021 3:14 pm

There is plenty of Biden ‘gaffe’ video evidence that he is in mental decline at 78. Won’t end well for him or the Dems in the long run. Unfortunately, our country is suffering lots of collateral damage in the meantime short run.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Rud Istvan
February 9, 2021 5:19 pm

From what I’ve seen of Biden, he hasn’t been the ‘sharpest knife in the drawer’ throughout his nearly 50 years in public office, so his feeble brain can’t handle all that much decline. As near as I can assess, he’s used all of his wit to search out every bit of “pork” in Washington, and nothing else.

Chris Nisbet
Reply to  Rory Forbes
February 9, 2021 4:50 pm

Watching Biden sign that stack of EOs was quite interesting. It almost seemed that Harris and co were standing around Biden to make sure he signed them.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Chris Nisbet
February 9, 2021 5:23 pm

I’ve never seen a Vice President so closely attending the President conducting his official duties. I’m wondering if Biden’s handlers have set up a cot for her in the Presidential bedroom … just in case she’s needed in the night.

OweninGA
Reply to  Rory Forbes
February 9, 2021 6:23 pm

TOTO is in on it. The wizard has been planting his people in all the top places for the last 30 years. So even if Toto were to stick his head behind the curtain, it would be to get a scratch behind his ears and get his next set of talking points.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  OweninGA
February 9, 2021 7:21 pm

Chuckle … you peeked! No fair!

Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Rory Forbes
February 9, 2021 7:25 pm

Like this.

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Toto
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
February 9, 2021 9:28 pm

Or this.
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Rory Forbes
Reply to  Toto
February 10, 2021 12:54 am

Who’d a thunk that we’d learn so much from a 1939 film based on a children’s fairy tale?

bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 3:27 pm

Davie boy, if you are worried about losing your job in the oil business, there’s plenty of opportunity for you in using your experience in oil to oil the bearings on a wind turbine. Are you afraid of heights?

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  David Middleton
February 9, 2021 4:24 pm

That’s OK Davie, I understand that a lot of people are afraid of heights, no need to feel embarrassed.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  David Middleton
February 9, 2021 5:21 pm

LOL, so you are afraid of heights……figures.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  David Middleton
February 9, 2021 5:36 pm

As a geologist you can get a job working for Elon Musk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company

Fraizer
Reply to  David Middleton
February 11, 2021 9:30 am

David:
You really need to stop asking these trolls “How stupid are you”? They’re taking it as a challenge.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 5:56 pm

When in a hole, don’t ask for a steam shovel.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 9, 2021 5:58 pm

Musk doesn’t use a steam shovel for his tunnels.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 8:45 am

I see you’ve finally learned to stop digging when in a hole.
Now you’re digging new holes.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 5:55 pm

Bethan, you really should read up on the first rule of holes. If you can’t, just ask nicely (if you can) and someone will help you.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 9, 2021 5:58 pm

MarkW, you really should read up on the first rule of conversations……don’t butt in.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 6:15 pm

Davie is a big boi, he doesn’t need your help

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 9:53 pm

Didn’t realize this was a private conversation. You don’t seem too smart.

You also seem more concerned about David’s job than he is. That should tell you something, if you weren’t as dense as Osmium.

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 10:02 pm

You need psychiatric help though, bettie

You go ranting and yelling nonsense and mindless inanities,

.. someone needs to bring you to task.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 8:47 am

That David needs no help handling the likes of you is quite obvious.
I joined in on the bashing because it’s fun.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 8:30 pm

You apparently haven’t noticed, but this is a free-for-all. Nobody needs an invitation to “butt in.”

beng135
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
February 10, 2021 8:12 am

It’s obvious she doesn’t even realize that simple fact. And notice she NEVER addresses the point of this post — the massive, intentionally-forced loss of American jobs by the new, illegitimate Biden junta.

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John Endicott
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 2:29 am

Show how stupid you are Bethan, this is an open message forum where everyone is not only free to jump in to the conversation but is encouraged to do so, it’s not a private DM between two individuals. That you can’t tell the difference between the two speaks volumes about your intelligence (or rather lack there of).

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 8:46 am

Bully’s always want others to butt out.
Regardless, are you stupid enough to actually believe that you were having a private conversation?

Mr.
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 4:33 pm

I’d have thought the bearings would be GREASED, (not ‘oiled’)

But hey, you guys do it your way.
I mean, it’s all been so successful so far, right?

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Mr.
February 9, 2021 5:18 pm
Mr.
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 5:46 pm

Your link is about GEARBOXES.
The topic you introduced was bearings.
I know some gearboxes have internal bearings, but they aren’t ‘oiled’ separately.

Main bearings use the most grease in the wind turbine. The bearing application is a combination of low speed, intermittent usage, high loads, and a lot of vibration. Due to the nature of the application it requires a grease developed and tested specifically for these requirements.

https://www.fuchs.com/us/en/industries/n-z/wind-power/main-bearing-grease/

beng135
Reply to  Mr.
February 10, 2021 8:19 am

Mr, she’s not that smart….

MarkW
Reply to  Mr.
February 9, 2021 5:57 pm

Don’t expect bethan to know anything technical. He still needs help figuring out which end of the fuel hose to use.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 9, 2021 6:03 pm

Don’t expect MarkW to know how to change the oil in his car, he goes to Jiffy Lube.

John Endicott
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 2:32 am

If he does use JiffyLube it’s because he has a good income that enables him to hire others to do the work for him. Something you, living in your parents basement, clearly have no experience with.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 8:50 am

Actually I used to change my own oil. I gave up when my latest car was too low to the ground to drive up onto the ramps.

Tim Gorman
Reply to  MarkW
February 10, 2021 9:52 am

I stopped changing mine when it cost me more to buy the oil and filters than to have a mechanic do it. He buys in bulk!

MarkW
Reply to  Tim Gorman
February 12, 2021 3:19 pm

For me it was more about time. It took less time to change my own oil than it took to drive to station and back.

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 5:14 pm

“in oil to oil the bearings on a wind turbine”

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where’s the oil going to come from ??

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  fred250
February 9, 2021 5:21 pm

” but can also be synthesized from other raw materials”

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_oil

Rory Forbes
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 5:59 pm

Synthetic oil is a man-made lubricant that consists of artificially made chemical compounds. Synthetic oils are typically created from chemically modified materials such as petroleum components, but the base material is almost always distilled crude oil.

Sorry, but you just can’t do without crude oil (from oil wells).

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Rory Forbes
February 9, 2021 6:06 pm

Guess you didn’t read the link:
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 Synthetic lubricants can be manufactured using chemically modified petroleum components rather than whole crude oil, but can also be synthesized from other raw materials.”

Rory Forbes
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 7:14 pm

Guess you can’t understand simple English. In order to obtain ” chemically modified petroleum components”, first you start with “whole crude oil”. Guess you didn’t understand your own link.

Where did you think it came from … unicorn farts? Do you true believers practice, or are you naturally obtuse?

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Rory Forbes
February 9, 2021 6:09 pm
eck
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 6:34 pm

Yes, but “from other raw materials”, though possible, would be terribly expensive. That synthetic oil most all newer car engines use, is made from petroleum. Expensive enough as it is.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 7:19 pm

No doubt, if expense was no object, one could harvest the hair oil from dancing girls to make lubricants. BTW, you were aware that “lubricant’s” is a description of use rather composition, weren’t you?

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 8:37 pm

“Synthetic oil is used as a substitute for petroleum-refined oils when operating in extreme temperature.” I guess that when a wind mill catches fire, that qualifies as needing a synthetic oil.

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 10:04 pm

I’m sure your personal lubricant or nasal sebum or ear wax will come in handy on the wind turbines, bettie. !!

You really are digging yourself into a very deep abyss.

Its HILARIOUS

Perhaps you could go back to using whale oil !

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MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 5:54 pm

How typical of a progressive, all snark and no sign of intelligence.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  MarkW
February 9, 2021 6:24 pm

Progressive? Strike one.

fred250
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 10:13 pm

ok.. GULLIBLE REGRESSIVE MARXIST, then. !!

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 8:51 am

And the lies continue.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 6:03 pm

Only a fool is NOT afraid of heights. I was a high rigger for a few years and was terrified enough to still be around more than 50 years later.

The oil/gas business is not going away any time in the next century or so.

bethan456@gmail.com
Reply to  Rory Forbes
February 9, 2021 6:25 pm

That is exactly the same thing the blacksmiths said about horses when the Model T first came out.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 7:24 pm

And what did the Model T run on? Funny you should mention that, though, since you true believers are intent upon taking us back to horse and buggy days. You’re out of your depth here.

Graemethecat
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 7:17 am

Strangely enough, it appears there are more horses in the UK today than in the 19th Century. The difference is that they are used for racing and recreation instead of transport. Plenty of blacksmiths around as well.

Is there really nothing you can get right?

drednicolson
Reply to  Graemethecat
February 10, 2021 6:18 pm

Metal fabricators are the modern blacksmiths. Smithing in a forge was the original welding.

MarkW
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 8:52 am

And we find yet another thing bethan is incompetent’s at. Making analogies.

Derg
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 7:02 pm

It’s weird how you take joy…very weird.

MarkW
Reply to  Derg
February 10, 2021 4:03 pm

Like most progressives, bethan takes great joy when those who have been successful are hurt.

Lrp
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 9, 2021 7:51 pm

what a stupid thing to say!

beng135
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 7:57 am

there’s plenty of opportunity for you in using your experience in oil to oil the bearings on a wind turbine. Are you afraid of heights?

Nasty remark. Time to vote off the island.

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Carlo, Monte
Reply to  bethan456@gmail.com
February 10, 2021 8:26 am

Got your shovel-ready Green New Deal job lined up yet?

Ron Long
February 9, 2021 3:43 pm

Good posting, David. This green attack is similar to what gold mining/exploration companies went through under Carter. The idea in Nevada was to not road maintance in isolated rural areas then declare the area to “roadless” then conduct studies to determine if the area was a “Wilderness” candidate. It took many years to reverse that nonsense.

By the way, did you notice my comment for the Geologist Discover Plate Tectonics posting of yours? The pull by slab going down a subduction zone versus the push from a Spreading center? The answer is the large obduction terrains, they are sea floor plates PUSHED onto continents (instead of going down subduction zones). I grew up on the Klamath Obduction terrain, located in NW Kalifornia and adjacent SW Oregon and it was oceanic crust with preserved ultramafic intrusions, which supported the only nickel and chrome mining in the USA;

Gunga Din
February 9, 2021 3:57 pm

Green Jobs.
Does that mean reducing us to harvesting and eating grass?
(Who needs cows? Get rid of the middle man!)

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Joel O'Bryan
Reply to  Gunga Din
February 9, 2021 7:40 pm

It means Soylent Green factories.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
February 10, 2021 3:07 pm

But … but … wouldn’t Soylent Green BE the middle man? 😎

John Endicott
Reply to  Gunga Din
February 12, 2021 3:35 am

No need to assume Solyent Green’s gender, it’s the middle person

Sara
February 9, 2021 4:48 pm

Okay, so should I hold off another two months to buy some Exxon (XOM) shares, or just go ahead and splurge now, while it’s cheap, but not yet cheapest? Just askin’, because I like to keep informed.

OH, that reminds me: All this eco-friendly stuff: does that mean that when the ordeal – er, plan – yeah, that’s it: plan! – starts to kick in to replace reliable gas heat and gas cooking with unreliable electric stuff, THEY ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT? See, I just installed a new, fuel-efficient furnace and air conditioner the first week in November and for these bozos are indicating I won’t be allowed to go on using that, so how do I cook and heat my home when the outside temperature is SO chill, that even the birds don’t want to swoop in for the food at my feeding station.

Civilization was fun while it lasted…..

Derg
Reply to  Sara
February 9, 2021 5:07 pm

XOM is in line for unreliable subsidies. Buyer beware.

CD in Wisconsin
February 9, 2021 5:56 pm

“..When asked when and where laid-off fossil fuel industry workers can get their new climate-friendly jobs, Biden spokesperson Jen “Circle Back” Psaki replied that the Harris-Biden Dominion would have a plan, to make a plan, to create millions of shovel-ready green jobs…”

Pray tell me Ms. Psaki, does the Biden admin have a plan to undercut Chinese labor costs so solar panels can be mass produced in the U.S.?

Pray tell me Ms. Psaki, does the Biden Admin have a plan for manufacturing solar panels and the steel for wind turbines without coking coal and without the cement base for installing turbines? Without emitting CO2?

Pray tell me Ms. Psaki, does the Biden Admin have a plan for the massive increase in other raw material mining in the U.S. (besides coal) if wind turbines and solar panels are to be made here in the U.S.? Do you have a plan to get the mining plan past the environmentalists?

Pray tell me Ms. Psaki, does the Biden Admin have a plan to avoid having to increase fossil fuel imports as domestic production declines from the leasing ban?

Pray tell me Ms. Psaki, does the Biden Admin have a plan for the environmentally friendly disposal of solar panels when they reach their expiration date? For the environmentally friendly disposal of wind turbines blades? (I’ve seen pictures where they are buried in landfills). Do you and your boss know that solar panel production leaves toxic waste behind? Do you and your boss know how much land area would be needed to replace a large number of fossil fuel plants with solar panel and wind turbine farms?

Pray tell me Ms. Psaki, does the Biden Admin have a plan to build more current generation nuclear plants to replace/eliminate fossil fuel power plants and lower CO2 emissions? Do you and your boss know how f—ing costly and time-consuming it is to build them these days?!!!

Pray tell me Ms. Psaki, do you know that EV car batteries do not like cold weather? Do you and your boss know how f—ing cold it is here in the Upper Midwest right now?!!!! Do you have a game plan for a massive EV recharging infrastructure for long trips away from home?

Pray tell me Ms. Psaki, do you and your boss know that the UAH satellite temperature record has been trending down for something like 5 years now since the El Nino peak in 2016? Do you and your boss know that the CO2-induced CAGW theory is a bunch of B.S.? Do any of you really care?

Pray tell me Ms. Psaki, do you know if you and your boss have an I.Q. much larger than your shoe size?

The only jobs govt creates is when it expands its own bureaucracy. Now, about that shovel…..

Latitude
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
February 9, 2021 6:19 pm

…or the obvious….a plan to re-wire the entire country….cause that’s what it will take

brown outs…black outs….and mandatory elec shut offs

cities have completely black outs now when too many people turn on their AC’s

eck
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
February 9, 2021 6:36 pm

Don’t be too hard on her CD, she’s just a shill mouthpiece. sarc/

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
February 9, 2021 8:41 pm

I wonder what kind of a commission Biden has negotiated with China for the solar panels to be installed in this country?

Tom Abbott
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
February 10, 2021 9:58 am

No doubt the Big Guy has a plan.

I think Joe’s usual cut is about 10 percent of anything his relatives make selling his influence. At least, that’s the figure his son Hunter was complaining about having to pay the Big Guy, to another relative.

John Endicott
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
February 12, 2021 3:36 am

Pray tell me Ms. Psaki, do you know if you and your boss have an I.Q. much larger than your shoe size?

she’ll have to circle back to you on that.

Herbert
February 9, 2021 6:27 pm

David,
The Office of Management and Budget (OMB)is the largest Office within the Executive Office of the President of the United States.
Among its functions is to examine agency programs policies and procedures to ensure they comply with the President’s policies.
As climate change is the pre-eminent policy of this Administration,and much is promised for employment, can OMB be asked to identify-
(a) Those ‘Green Jobs’ occasioned throughout the term of the Administration on at least a quarterly basis given the extravagant promises of the President.
( b) Those traditional jobs foregone in the same time frame?
I am mindful of the Madrid University study on this topic.
Is there any mechanism by which the OMB can be compelled to reveal such information?
Would it already be in train for this Administration,anyway,on a periodic basis even allowing for the usual rubbery figures for “green jobs” versus traditional jobs?

eck
February 9, 2021 6:28 pm

Higher oil price. WooHoo! My family owns oil producing lands in North Dakota. Now, if the demand would just increase……….

eck
February 9, 2021 6:42 pm

“The funniest thing about all of this, is that Biden’s malfeasance won’t have any effect on the demand for oil & gas or the weather”. So sadly true. Neither will chopping off the pipeline.
But, as I’ve been saying for months, this isn’t due any of Biden’s thinking. He’s a figurehead, frontman. C’mon, folks, he’s just a puppet, a Mortimer Snerd dummy. He just spouts out what he’s been coached to say by his very left “handlers”.

beng135
Reply to  eck
February 10, 2021 7:50 am

Obama & his team of operatives are the puppet-masters.

Tom Abbott
Reply to  eck
February 10, 2021 10:01 am

I think Biden is also a True Believer in a coming CO2 catastrophe. That’s the impression I get. I suppose it could be an act.

stinkerp
February 9, 2021 7:04 pm

Did anyone really believe that a guy who hasn’t created a single job in his life would magically do it when he became President?

Climate believer
Reply to  stinkerp
February 10, 2021 1:49 am

I hear you, but as the cliché goes…. you can’t fix stupid.

America now has a very compromised President.

Peter Strzok got the wrong guy, and the wrong country…. total dork.

The reds are under the bed again.


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MarkW
Reply to  Climate believer
February 11, 2021 8:07 am

Under the bed?
Heck, they’re in the parlor having tea.

John Endicott
Reply to  Climate believer
February 12, 2021 3:38 am

Under the bed? they’re very much *in* the bed.

eck
Reply to  stinkerp
February 10, 2021 6:47 pm

Worse, he’s never had a productive job. Always been on the public teat.

MarkW
Reply to  eck
February 11, 2021 8:19 am

In addition to increasing the voting age to 25, we need to raise the age at which someone can run for public office.
All state and local positions: 35 for legislative, 45 for executive.
House of Representatives: 35
Senate: 45
President: 55
Senior Cabinet positions: 55

Joel O'Bryan
February 9, 2021 7:09 pm

Dementia Joe earns another Billy Madison to his vast collection of Gaffe awards everytime he tries to speak without reading a script.

Burgher King
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
February 10, 2021 6:36 am

In her October debate with Pence, Harris was smirking at him all through the debate. Something more than her usual smug attitude. She knew then that vote fraud would certainly make her VP; and sooner or later, make her president.

j hinton
February 9, 2021 7:24 pm

If you ask the question: “who benefits” from the Commander-in-thief’s policy… and skip over the political and lobbying class… you can make an exhaustive list of countries that either wish the US ill or simply don’t wish it to prosper.

Figure I’ll die, before there’s a truly bang-up investigative series done that explores exactly where the environmental lobby’s funding has come from over the last 60 or so years.

Looking on the bright side… raise energy costs enough and put enough people out of work and regime change is probably on the horizon.

Remember the Peanut farmer and his third career.

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Pat from kerbob
Reply to  j hinton
February 9, 2021 7:50 pm

Well, I know that most of the money coming into canada to try and destroy our energy industry comes from the USA.

Now joe is putting in place policy to increase the price of oil so I guess that is payback to us

j. hinton
Reply to  Pat from kerbob
February 10, 2021 6:13 pm

Yeah, the US is eat up with NGOs that pay no attention to international borders but…

… I’m suggesting that the US environmental lobby, even some of the more prominent rich individuals, might be laundering a buttt-load of foreign funding. If they’re not, the Chi-coms, etc. have ignored a cheap acceleration to US decline.

Jeff Alberts
February 9, 2021 8:51 pm

It’s not the US government’s job to create jobs. It’s job is to create an environment where private companies flourish, thereby creating jobs, and a robust economy.

Like Obama, Harris… er… Biden is going to pick winners and losers. Which means we’ll all be losers.

Rory Forbes
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
February 10, 2021 1:03 am

Exactly so! And if they’re going to do any picking it will only be those who know how to fill the pork barrels they, their friends and family have their noses in.

SAMURAI
February 9, 2021 9:31 pm

The US was the last bastion of freedom in the world, which has temporarily been lost with Biden’s election.

We’re now in the final stages of the modern iteration of moral, ethical and empirical relativism/statist tyranny which started with the German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel in the 1830’s, who greatly influenced Karl Marx’s philosophy of communism, Hitler’s Nazism/Mussolini Facism, and later morphed into the philosophies of Democratic Socialism/Neo-Marxism/Wokeism..

One would think that with all the historical evidence that tyranny is an awful philosophy that doesn’t work, we’d have long abandoned these failed philosophies, but, alas…

We’re now in the throes of the slow death rattle of the Renaissance, and it won’t stop until there is a Modern Renaissance to undo all the damage these failed philosophies have inflicted on the world over the last 200 years..

it’ll be interesting to see how this all plays out…

The end of all this insanity can’t come soon enough!

Hans Erren
February 9, 2021 9:56 pm

Lay-offs are good news for share prices: WTI crude climbed from 52$ to 59$ this week.

MarkW
Reply to  Hans Erren
February 10, 2021 8:57 am

Restricted supply in the US means oil prices world wide increase.

Henry
February 9, 2021 10:03 pm

IF the power grid where to fail in a large city during the next blizzard and not be quickly fixable would the idiots wake up

Richard Page
Reply to  Henry
February 10, 2021 3:39 am

Unfortunately, a lot of them might never wake up again. The idiot’s in charge will maintain that it was ‘unforeseen’ and a ‘once in a hundred years freak occurrence’, and commission a report that will exonerate them whilst pointing the finger elsewhere. And people will continue to not wake up – in all senses of the phrase.

Beta Blocker
Reply to  Henry
February 10, 2021 7:40 am

I have relatives living in the San Francisco bay area and also on Long Island in New York State.

The bay area relatives are convinced that the only path forward for California is to accelerate the adoption of wind and solar. Nothing short of a continuing series of one or two week blackouts will ever convince them that wind and solar backed by batteries aren’t the solution.

Even after those blackouts begin to occur on a much more frequent basis, the bay area Californians might still be in denial. It’s their way. You must hit them over the head multiple times with an energy reality two-by-four before you can get their attention.

The Long Island relatives are completely oblivious to the increasing danger of power blackouts in the US Northeast. They’ve taken at face value the politician’s assurances that wind and solar will be as reliable as coal, natural gas, and nuclear .

The Long Island relatives are the ones most in danger of losing their lives when the most serious and unexpected — from their own perspective — blackouts begin to occur in the dead of winter.

In New York State, only after many lives are lost in a series of major winter blackout incidents will serious questions be raised. It will take a series of these incidents, not just one, before the New Yorkers wake up.

MarkW
Reply to  Beta Blocker
February 11, 2021 8:25 am

It will be like Venezuela, and most other socialist countries.
First the government, with media help, will blame the capitalists in the power industry for putting profits over people, and the only solution will be to nationalize the power industry so that people who care can be put in charge.
When the problems continue, they will declare that sabotage from capitalist holdovers is the cause and that everyone who works in these industries need to be faithful party members.
By that point, it won’t matter how many people complain, because they will be powerless to do anything about it.

beng135
Reply to  Henry
February 10, 2021 7:45 am

Baltimore, MD, had a big snowfall & power-outage back in the 1990s and the first thing to happen was massive looting and burning to take advantage of the situation. Cities vastly concentrate violence and corruption.

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Warren
February 10, 2021 4:02 am

Trump report card 6/10. Deserved to ‘not win’. Liberal Jared + Goldman globalists and an ego problem. Come on man he looked like an out of control idiot at least half the time from down under. Not that our conservatives are any better!

MarkW
Reply to  Warren
February 10, 2021 8:59 am

If all you rely on is the mainstream media, you would believe that anyone who isn’t a full blown communist is an idiot.

TonyG
Reply to  MarkW
February 10, 2021 9:53 am

I don’t rely on msm or alternative media. I take any reports as a starting point and research for myself. Apparently that’s a lost art.

Warren
Reply to  MarkW
February 10, 2021 1:44 pm

No MSM for me.

MarkW
Reply to  Warren
February 11, 2021 8:26 am

Then where did you get your “information” from?

rah
February 10, 2021 5:00 am

It really isn’t funny in any way shape or form. As I remember Michigan tried this green jobs shtick several years ago with economically disastrous results.

Robert W Turner
February 10, 2021 6:45 am

I would love to ask an EV driver how they are liking these temps in the center of the continent right now and how their planet saving unicorn powered vehicle is faring, but I can’t find one.

cedarhill
February 10, 2021 6:55 am

Best suggestion I’ve heard is to have the American workers losing their jobs due to Biden policies to migrate to the jobs all the (former) illegal aliens are leaving behind via Biden’s open border policies.
That means the US will be able to import the energy it needs, etc., from the foreign skilled labor force we’ve exported.
What could ever go wrong?

Pablo
February 10, 2021 7:11 am

Make America Grovel Again

Doonman
February 10, 2021 1:15 pm

The green jobs already exist. Its just too embarrassing for greenies to advertise that its Nigerian and Congolese children who are forced to work to support their green new deal.

George
February 18, 2021 6:20 am
  1. this is punishment for people in states that did not vote for Biden.
  2. creating a depression in these state will harden potential voters against the Democratic Party